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Speaker 1: He was playing cool in the game, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: How you saw?

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Speaker 3: I saw you man sitting in the lunch froom with

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Speaker 2: Allegedly, Yeah, yeah, what up? Y artist is? Joe cracked

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Speaker 4: You know who it is, your boy, Jada? You know

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Speaker 4: what it is that Joe and Jada show every show legendary,

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Speaker 4: every show iconic, and today that tagline we use is

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Speaker 4: an understatement for today's guests.

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Speaker 2: Follow me now.

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Speaker 4: When you think of today's guests, you think of the

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Speaker 4: soundtrack to your entire Life's right seriously, the songs you

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Speaker 4: fell in love to, the albums that made you feel invincible,

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Speaker 4: the records that still make you stop whatever you're doing

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Speaker 4: and turn it up.

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Speaker 2: Together.

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Speaker 4: They are the most successful songwriting and production duo and

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Speaker 4: music history.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Music history history? The whole dang with more Billboard number

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Speaker 4: one hits than any other writing and production team on

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Speaker 4: the planet. That better listen to me. They helped create

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Speaker 4: the Minneapolis Sound, built the catalog that spans Janet Jackson,

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Speaker 4: and they did it all starting from getting fired by Prince.

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Speaker 4: That firing best thing that ever happened to best thing

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Speaker 2: A man, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Please give a super loud ovation for Jimmy, Jim and

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Speaker 5: Wow, whoa, No, I ain't got enough time in my hands,

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Speaker 5: I have to make the next level bigger than the icon,

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Speaker 5: because you guys are bigger than the people call themselves

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Speaker 6: It's just be in there. It's to be the Jimmy

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Speaker 6: JA and Terry Lewis war you validated. Yeah yeah, yeah

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Speaker 7: Name after them the logo of music. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 7: a music sign your switched. I like what you wrote?

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Speaker 5: Listen, guys, Minnesota's own y'all worked with Prince? What was

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Speaker 5: say I met Princeton Junior High school. We went to

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Speaker 5: And I was just blown away by his talent.

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Speaker 1: My dad's ninety nine years old, Cornbred Harris still plays

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Speaker 5: You know, we always have that battle that MJL Prince

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Speaker 5: He was like, he played the instruments, he made the music.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, next month, Teddy, I'll finish that vocal. He was like, yo,

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Speaker 5: You guys, man, for years, I know your story. Thank God,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: You guys are the gift that keeps giving. Thank you all.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I love you for that. But you

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Speaker 2: The scenes, right, but now you outside and so you

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Speaker 5: Shows, you're doing storytelling you this and that. I mean like,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, these guys, what made y'all say, all right,

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Speaker 3: Well just this time? I mean, we started out as musicians.

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Speaker 3: We're a songwriter second, and producers third. Only because we

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Speaker 3: I like that feeling though. I love being free.

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Speaker 1: But you know it's funny too, because it's, if you

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Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, my favorite part of

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Speaker 5: It was a friend of mine's birthday yesterday, one of

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Speaker 2: He's been a real loyal friend, man.

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Speaker 5: And I was just like, you know, because I think

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Speaker 2: We you know, the brotherhood got.

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Speaker 5: To be really really strong and special, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Appreciated man, Yes, sir, yes, sir, Yeah, you really appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 1: And I always flashed back to I mean when I

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Speaker 1: to get to know that brother. He was playing cool

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Speaker 1: he knows what's up. And then he saw what you

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Speaker 3: Oh, I saw you man, sitting in the lunch froom

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Speaker 3: with a bunch of girls around the piano.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Girl, allegedly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what it was. That is fat and

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Speaker 3: might I go another step further? Oh, a true fact, Okay,

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Speaker 3: a true fat, true fact.

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Speaker 2: You already know when it's a real moment, you need

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Speaker 2: a real bottle.

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Speaker 5: That's why we rock with eighteen hundred tequila.

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Speaker 2: Y'all heard me.

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Speaker 5: These people were making tequila for eleven generations. That's right, eleven.

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Speaker 3: We we pulled the organ out and we played she

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Speaker 2: Did we play new Birth?

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Speaker 1: I don't know we played new I don't think that

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: It was just you come from a time we watched

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Speaker 5: for everything they're publishing. They did, they did you even

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Speaker 5: got guys? What's my man? Little Richard said, Elvis was

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Speaker 5: and all of them, but to stay together, for sure.

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Speaker 5: They was playing some divide and Conference with you guys,

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Speaker 5: One of my favorite groups of all time, if not

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Speaker 2: Fuck free. We were still fired at that point. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was fired from the biggest guy in the world

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Speaker 5: They go in there like and the engineers said, I

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Speaker 2: This ship is a.

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Speaker 5: Smoker, right, Your life's about to change. And he didn't lie,

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Speaker 5: like I mean that O S Man was.

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Speaker 2: And then you said the Godfather, the Godfather whokes you

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Speaker 1: that was the thing that really solidified us. And as

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Speaker 1: you know whatever. He said, do let me do this.

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Speaker 2: And we said making hits?

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Speaker 1: He said, no, no, no, no, he said Besides that, he said,

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Speaker 2: And we were like, oh okay. You know.

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Speaker 1: He said, who's going to get on boards of companies?

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Speaker 1: So he planted those seeds with us. The other thing

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Speaker 1: and they said, can you introduce us to Clarence Avon

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Speaker 1: We called Clarence. We said, Clarence, there's these two guys.

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Speaker 1: He said, who are They said, La and baby Face.

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Speaker 1: He said, okay, Ellen, baby Face, what the name is?

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Speaker 1: That was okay, No, that cool. But anyway, he got

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: When La and baby Face were coming to LA, they said,

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Speaker 1: We wanted to be the deal. You know, we wanted

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Speaker 5: You can help me out of you know, these Grammy

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Speaker 2: A grand.

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Speaker 5: Start telling them now on what it starts. Ready, Joe

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Speaker 5: trying to win a Grammy. I'm started by that game.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 5: Definitely know they watched in this episode. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 1: And speaking about Grammys, Man, I got asked to be

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Speaker 1: on the board of the Grammy. This was, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're talking two thousand ish, you know, back some twenty

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Speaker 1: five years ago. Almost I called Clarence and I said, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: they want me to be on the border of the Grammys.

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Speaker 1: And he said, can we cost on the show right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't. Okay, I don't know the curse because you are.

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Speaker 1: No, Claren said, motherfucker, better get your ass in there.

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Speaker 1: That's a room they don't let us in. You better

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Speaker 1: get your ass in that room. I was like, okay, cool,

484
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Speaker 1: And I ended up becoming the first African American chair

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Speaker 1: for the Grammars.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And so that was one of those things where once again,

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Speaker 1: if Clarence hadn't planted those seeds in us and telling

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Speaker 1: us the other things that we needed to do. We

490
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Speaker 1: never would have known you to do something like that.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't have been looking at it.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't have been ready for that, but you was ready,

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Speaker 5: But you wouldn't even you would have been like, yeah,

494
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Speaker 5: I had been.

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Speaker 1: A rock star. Yeah right, fuck I care about that.

496
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Speaker 1: I said that to my wife. I said, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I said, they want me to be on a board, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be on a board. And she says,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Because I think I was

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Speaker 1: probably forty at that point in time. She said, you're

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Speaker 1: forty years old. That's what the kind of stuff you're

503
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Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. I was like, oh, okay, you

504
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: have this stuff comes with age. Yes, it's the worst, Yes,

505
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Speaker 1: the worst hit in the world. It's the worst, but

506
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Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the best.

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Speaker 5: Because they were like, you're really gonna get rich when

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Speaker 5: you're fifty, and yo, bro, I can't even enjump.

509
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Speaker 2: When I'm really gonna be rich. When I can't even enjoy.

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Speaker 5: The fuck my family's really ain't gonna be rich.

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Speaker 2: I want me to play shuffleboard on.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be some first class shuffle

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 9: Though.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the it's gonna be the best.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have the best equipment many thank god.

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Speaker 2: Man, let me tell you that. Well, we're too blessed.

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Speaker 5: Man, you guys are some of the biggest records in

519
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Speaker 5: the world. See you mentioned something earlier, right, and you

520
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 5: said you work for Prince and Michael Jackson. But the

521
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: thing is, you didn't just work with these guys that

522
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: made hits with these guys. Some people work with people,

523
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and they miss You guys

524
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 5: hit it out the park every single time.

525
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Speaker 2: And like I'm saying, every time I heard you know me, I'm.

526
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Speaker 5: Music all day And now I saw day my mom's

527
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: was here, She's on that she's less into it all day.

528
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: We listened to music for all day, not just hip hop.

529
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 5: I'm actually more of an R and B guy, and

530
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: all the music that I ever loved. When I went

531
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Speaker 5: to your show.

532
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Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, they did that work. Everything you ever

533
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: loved they did, they did.

534
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: They did what I walked down to day. I was mesmerized.

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Speaker 2: Man.

536
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Speaker 5: I was just like, and I knew your catalog, but

537
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: then when you come with the it Sounds of Blackness, huh, like.

538
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: The Black National End first album. Yeah. Yeah.

539
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, when people say what's your favorite song, that's

540
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: always a tough one because there can be reasons that

541
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: things can be a favorite. It can be the result

542
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: of the song if it does well, or it could

543
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: be the process of making the song could be great.

544
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of different things. But the way I

545
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: always put it is if there was a time capsule

546
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: that said jam and lewis on it, and one hundred

547
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: years from now, I don't know, the aliens or wherever

548
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: it's left, comes down and opens it up, what would

549
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: be the song you would want to play? And it

550
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: would be optimistic by Sounds of Blackness because to me

551
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: it was everything. It told you everything about us, but

552
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: also the effect that it had on people like people.

553
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: There's people we meet every single day that just come

554
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: up to us and they'll go, that song got me

555
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: through college or that song got me through whatever.

556
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Speaker 2: And to me, that's we always call it.

557
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Music is the Divine Art, is the way we say it,

558
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: and to me, that's what music should be. You know,

559
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: it should be something to get people through their day

560
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: or make them, uplift them when they need it, and

561
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So that one is optimistics number one.

562
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Speaker 1: But we also have a one eight that I know

563
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Terry Hoys.

564
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Speaker 3: Then yeah, one A would be Open My Heart by

565
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Speaker 3: Yolanda Adams. You know that one is as Yeah, yeah,

566
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Speaker 3: well spiritual spiritual sarit you too.

567
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Speaker 5: You've done so many hits, but you get a lot

568
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: of credit for the work with Janet Jackson that you

569
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: guys are like, So, I got a guy, his name

570
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 5: is Scott Stort. You pretty much hit my biggest hits

571
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 5: Philly and Philly. You're right, and then Cool and Dre

572
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 5: came after, But my biggest hits is Scott Stort. I

573
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: never lost with him. And so y'all got that Janet Jackson,

574
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 5: y'all chemistry.

575
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: Is like Snoop Dogg Doctor Dre.

576
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Speaker 5: You know, it's like, you know, you guys, Janet will

577
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 5: forever be known for being with you guys, and you

578
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: guys with her more than anything else. And was that

579
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: like a plan or was it just she was like, yo,

580
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: come on, guys, I don't know, Like that's when I

581
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: look at y'all, I could always see Janet there.

582
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Janet was First of all, Janet was a

583
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: huge fan of the time, and I remember we played LA.

584
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Speaker 1: She played the Long Beach Convention Center en fire member correctly,

585
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: because we weren't allowed Prince didn't allow us to play

586
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Speaker 1: the form because back in the day now, this is

587
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: before social media, people would read reviews in the newspaper,

588
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and all the reviews in the newspaper around the country

589
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: was basically the the time was kicking Prince's ass, and

590
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Speaker 1: so that was cool in you know, Charlotte, North Carolina

591
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: or somewhere small, but you didn't want the New York

592
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: Times to say that, and you didn't want the LA

593
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Speaker 1: Times to say that. So we never were allowed to

594
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Speaker 1: play at Madison Square Garden when Prince played, and we

595
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Speaker 1: were never allowed to play at the Form, which was

596
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Speaker 1: the place in LA when Prince played. So I remember

597
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: we played I think we played Nasau Coliseum or somewhere

598
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: in New York, and we played you know, Long Beach

599
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Speaker 1: Arena in LA. Yeah, yeah, Skirts. But anyway, Janet came

600
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Speaker 1: to the show. Her and her mom were sitting in

601
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Speaker 1: front row. She knew every lyric to every song they

602
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: were partying, and we were like, okay, cool.

603
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: So we met her.

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Speaker 1: Afterwards, she came back in the dress room. She was

605
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Speaker 1: so nice. Couldn't have been nicer. And then later on

606
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Speaker 1: on John McClain, who recently passed unfortunately. He was an A

607
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Speaker 1: and R director at A and M Records. There was

608
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Speaker 1: another artist we were supposed to do at A and

609
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Speaker 1: M Records, but she didn't want to work with us.

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Speaker 1: So he said, is there anybody else on the roster

611
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: you want to work with? And we said, well, who's

612
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: on the roster? So he sends the roster. Now this

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00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: is on a fax machine. For those of y'all that

614
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: remember those, he faxes the one that got one. Okay,

615
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: So he faxes the he faxes the list. Terry and

616
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: I go down the list, our name. Our fingers stopped

617
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Speaker 1: on Janet Jackson and we called John and we said, John,

618
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Speaker 1: we want to do Janet Jackson. He said, cool, cool,

619
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Speaker 1: We want to do a couple of songs. We said, no,

620
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: we want to do the whole album. He said you do.

621
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: We said yeah. He said okay, cool. So we got

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Speaker 1: in a meeting with her and stuff, and her dad

623
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: was there and her dad said, you guys are from

624
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis and we said yeah. He said, Prince is from Minneapolis.

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00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: We said, yeah, he said, don't have my daughter sounded

626
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: like prince Like, okay, mister Jackson, you got it. So

627
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: we had her come to Minneapolis, man, and it was

628
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Speaker 1: like it was revelat for her because it was just

629
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: her and he girlfriend. It wasn't bodyguards, one limos and stuff.

630
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Speaker 2: We got our car to drive.

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Speaker 1: We got her a Thomas because there's no GPS in

632
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Speaker 1: this day, so she had to figure out how to

633
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Speaker 1: get from the hotel to the studio to Blockbuster Video

634
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: to you know, wherever she wanted to get to. So

635
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: literally Control when she's talking about going out on her own,

636
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: the experience in Minneapolis was part of that process. And

637
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: then we sat around for three or four days, man,

638
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: just like this and just talk. We went to the beach,

639
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: we went to the lakes, We went to clubs and stuff.

640
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: And then she said, when are we going to start

641
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: working and we said, oh, we started working, and we

642
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: showed her the opening lyrics to Control. When I was seventeen,

643
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I did what people told me, did what my father said,

644
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: and let my mother mold. When she saw those lyrics,

645
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: she said, oh, wait, so we're going to write about

646
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: whatever we talk about, said yeah, and she said, oh,

647
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about this and I want to

648
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: talk about this, and that put the light bulb in

649
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: her head like, oh, no, this is going to be

650
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: your album, not stuff we're writing for you, but you're

651
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: going to be part of the creative process. And that,

652
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: to me was the most important thing that I think

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Speaker 1: we did for jam was really give her, ask her

654
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: her opinion on stuff like do you want to sing this?

655
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Do you like this?

656
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: And then we also wanted to in the analyzation of it,

657
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, because we were very analytical

658
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: about the people we work with. We liked when Jana

659
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: was really young, she had all this attitude right when

660
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: she was on the Variety Show where their brothers are

661
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: doing the Sonny and Share Show and all that. You'd

662
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: always see it. She always had this feisty attitude. But

663
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 1: then her music was kind of soft, you know. We

664
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: were like, let's give her some aggressive music and get

665
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: that feisty attitude back. So I remember when we did

666
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: the track for Nasty and she was like singing it

667
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: like you know, sit in the movie show, and we

668
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: were like, no, no, no, no, sing it Like the other day,

669
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: she had a cold like right before that we sing

670
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: it like when you had the cold like sit in

671
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: the movie show like that. She said, really said yeah,

672
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: and so she sang it. I remember we calmed the

673
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: vocal up and the next day she heard it, she

674
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: was okay. So we got the trust factor instantly, and

675
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: the rest is history. I mean, Control album only took

676
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: forty years old, just turned forty this year. Control is

677
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: it only took six weeks to do. And if she'll

678
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: say four weeks of the six weeks we were just

679
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: hanging out. We weren't even really working. So literally it

680
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: was like a two week album to put that together.

681
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Man, that's amazing.

682
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 9: Man.

683
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: Let me say we keep talking about Minnesota. I'm thinking

684
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 5: about Morris Day and these guys love Mores. Nah, what

685
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 5: happened Morris and guys the characters love more?

686
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was fast, he's the best man and y'all

687
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: grew up with him too, right, yeah, right.

688
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: What a lot of people don't know about Morris Man.

689
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: Besides being a great front man, he's a world class

690
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: drummer that do yep, you are a lot of the

691
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: Prince Records. The drums that you here, that's Morse.

692
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 2: Wow.

693
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 9: Controversy let's work. Yeah, that's more Dan, he can draw, Yeah,

694
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 9: like my unsung hero. Yeah, yes, sir. What can we

695
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 9: expect from this Vegas residence that's going.

696
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: To be pay Man? Nothing but Hits, brother, Yeah, nothing

697
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: but Hits. I mean it's almost across the world, nothing

698
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: but it. So we're starting August seventh, it's our opening weekend,

699
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: and then we're doing the weekday of that next week,

700
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: which is the Wednesday, I think the twelfth, and then

701
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: it's basically fourteen fifteen, sixteen, and then twenty one, twenty

702
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: twenty three, so ten shows totally. We did six shows

703
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: already and we sold out and they said can you

704
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: do ten more shows?

705
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: We said, yes we can. So we're looking forward to it.

706
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, man, it's it's it's

707
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: a lot of fun because we go through kind of

708
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: the history. But the way I my analogy for it

709
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: is always like the chef's table at a restaurant. So

710
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: if there's a restaurant you really like and you like

711
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of the things that the chef mix,

712
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: but you actually get to watch the chef make the

713
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: food and then you can go, oh, oregano. That's what

714
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: he puts in there like and you know the technique

715
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: of how it's done. It gives you a whole different

716
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: appreciation because now you know why you like as opposed

717
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: to oh, I love that song.

718
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

719
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: So it's not like you go, oh, I love that song,

720
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: but it's like I love that song because I know

721
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: this story behind it or I know you know the

722
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: way that it was made or what happened. So we

723
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: do that, but we do a kind of crazy stuff

724
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: like I'll sit at the piano, we'll do name that tune,

725
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: We'll ask the audience to name a tune, We'll let

726
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: them sing along with it. We'll do that kind of thing.

727
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: And then we always have we always have Ruben stuttered,

728
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: and we always have Sean each Wilson or two of

729
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: the best singing performers because I have to perform everything right.

730
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: So if you're Ruben, you got to hit You got

731
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: to hit some Oh, sure, you got to hit some

732
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Alexander O'Neil, you got to hit some Johnny gil you

733
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you got to hit all that.

734
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: And if you're Shawnese, you know you gotta hear my

735
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: mother fucking man, right, mine too.

736
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, whoa yeah, Alexander, that I forgot they

737
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 10: did that and you said you told me everything if

738
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 10: you were here tonight.

739
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: That's yeah, yo, let me tell you something, man, yo,

740
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 5: Alexander and I just.

741
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: Feel like he's a real one. I don't know him,

742
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh he's real yeh yeah.

743
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: When I hear his music, I feel like that's a

744
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: real one, you know what I'm saying.

745
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: Like, now, he's a real one. You know.

746
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 5: Stephanie Miil is my favorite. I just saw a video

747
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: on on Instagram to that I reposted when she was

748
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 5: twenty two. She was just a little girl and she

749
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 5: was killing that. I remember one time, you know, I

750
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 5: got a special relationship with her. She was telling me

751
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: about when she was growing up and I told her

752
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 5: one time, I see your stuff shows your age when you.

753
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: Was going through that at your back.

754
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, she looked at me for real, Joe, I said, man,

755
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 5: I at your back?

756
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: I love that.

757
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I love that. You know especial. You know

758
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 5: all the artists and all the artists crazy, right all.

759
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: Do you different in different levels? Everybody's crazy in a

760
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: different way.

761
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: Every great artists, every one of our friends are fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah,

762
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: you know, everybody's crazy. I don't know is this is

763
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: that a common denominated and everything because everybody.

764
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: But creative people, man, are just it's a it's a

765
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: whole different thing. Terry and I always build in what

766
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: we call the etcetera budget into the into the thing

767
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: because it's like some people, we know, oh, this is

768
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: going to be a headache, but we still want to

769
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: work with you know, we still want to we still

770
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: want to do our thing.

771
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: Man.

772
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: But and I just want to mention, by the way,

773
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: because we mentioned Rubert, but I got to mention Shanice Wilson.

774
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: So Shanese handles everybody, all the female vocals that we've

775
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: ever done, you know, from Cheryl Lynn to What's not Charrelle.

776
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 2: Number one hit personally, Oh I love your smile? Yeah,

777
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 2: but she does that, she does the show.

778
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: How does it feel if you're a human being? I'm

779
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: talking to the audience and you got as and you

780
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: love music. They're responsible for not most of them, but

781
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: they have a song, one of the songs that's your

782
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: favorite song, or your mother's favorite song, or anybody's your

783
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 4: favorite song.

784
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 2: They had something to do with it, or they.

785
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 5: You wrote for a new edition I know what you wrote,

786
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 5: but I want you to tell of people said, well,

787
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 5: New Addition actually funny enough, we actually did a song

788
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: that people won't know.

789
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: It was the first time we worked with him. We

790
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: did a song called Helplessly in Love, which was on

791
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: the Dragnet soundtrack. And when I remember when they asked

792
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: us to do that, they said, hey, do you guys

793
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: want to work with New Audition And we were like, yeah,

794
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: we love and they say, well we got the soundtrack.

795
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: We said cool, and.

796
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: We worked with them and we got along with them

797
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: so great, and so we were like, couldn't wait to

798
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: work with them again. And so when they said, hey,

799
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: we want you guys to do the next album, and

800
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: we were like great. But the thing we did, and

801
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: I will say this about producing a lot of people

802
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: think about producing as a technical side of things, but

803
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: the human side of it is really more important because

804
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot of times you have to be you know,

805
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: whether it's a psychiatrist or a psychologist or a therapist

806
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: or whatever, like that's sometimes a chef, yeah, chef, yes, yeah,

807
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: you have to figure it out, you know. And I

808
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: remember before we started the album, this was the album

809
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: that Johnny Gil came in to the group. Then the

810
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: heartbreakout and I remember, you know, two of the guys,

811
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I think Ricky and Ralph were against Johnny joining the group,

812
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: and Viv and Ronnie were for Johnny being in the group.

813
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: So we're like, well, before we can tackle trying to

814
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: make a record, we need to settle this, whatever this is.

815
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: So I remember we're sitting in the conference room, Johnny

816
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: sitting at the end of the table, and I said, Okay, Johnny,

817
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: here's what we're thinking. You're really not going to do

818
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: any leads on this record because it's Ralph's group. So

819
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Ralph's going to do all the leads. How do you

820
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: feel about that? I had no idea what he was

821
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: going to say, and he said, that's cool. I'm a

822
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: team player, man, whatever you need me to do. Well,

823
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: as soon as he said that, it lifted all of

824
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: the tension in the air out because everybody was like they.

825
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: Thought they had a new Jalen Brunson on the.

826
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: That ball and yeah, so then we knew, we knew

827
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: strategically that we needed to work him in.

828
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: It couldn't be like a.

829
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Jarring experience for people when they heard the album, So

830
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: we did. If it is in Love and that was

831
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: the first single, and the reason we did it like

832
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: that was because that was kind of the most new

833
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: edition sounding.

834
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: Record if you think about it. Yeah. Yeah, with the choreography,

835
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: you stay on my mind.

836
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: And it was cool because Brooke, their choreographer, was in

837
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: town with us when we were making the record, and

838
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: he said, Man, give me some shit. I can choreograph

839
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: some you know, some moves to and that's why the

840
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: little party goes. That's why that's in there. So he

841
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: can put some moves, some dance moves in there. So

842
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: we did that as the first record. Then we did

843
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: the next record we did was Not My Kind of Girl,

844
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: and that song we put Johnny in just a little bit,

845
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of started doing some little lad lives, you know,

846
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff in it, right, And then

847
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: we did Can't Stand Dry. That's the third single, that's

848
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: the one, and You Stand The Rain for us was

849
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: Stylistics had a song called you Make Me Feel Brand New.

850
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: You make Me Feel brand sir.

851
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: So when that song came out, but I remember my

852
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: impression of hearing it for the first time. I knew

853
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Russell Tompkins junior voice, the high singing dude but Arion

854
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: loved the low singing dude. I'd never really heard him sing.

855
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: So when that song came on the radio for the

856
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: first time and I heard my Love.

857
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh.

858
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was like going, wait, who

859
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: is this right? And then Russell comes.

860
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: In only and I was like, Oh, it's the stylistics.

861
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: So that's what we wanted to do with New Edition.

862
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: So when you heard Johnny go on a perfect day,

863
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: you would know who is this right? Did right? But

864
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: then as soon as you hear but I need somebody,

865
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: you go, oh, it's a new Edition.

866
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: So that was the way we were able to then

867
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: incorporate Johnny into the group where it made some sense. Yeah,

868
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: that was the strategic move.

869
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 5: And Joe Busby gave to an artist that I don't

870
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: want to say you didn't want to give to him,

871
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 5: but you was like, but you gave it to him, babyface.

872
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: He wrote Ronie about a real person, so he had

873
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 5: a relationship with this girl Ronie, and then La Reid

874
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 5: gave it to Bobby behind his back and he was like, Yo,

875
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: that man don't know about no Ronie. This guy is

876
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 5: from the streets. This is and I said, yo. He

877
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 5: was just like yo, like I knew Ronie, like she

878
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 5: was a nice girl.

879
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: She would have Nevi dated Bobby. I swear to God, Yo,

880
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: I swear to God.

881
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 5: But was there ever a song like that for you

882
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: guys that your handed over again song to the person,

883
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 5: just a song that they thought they could have went

884
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 5: to somebody else, so they thought, you know what I mean?

885
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: No, no, ye, no, think of one. I can't think

886
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: of one.

887
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: Well, there was one instance in the beginning, and that

888
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: was Alexander O'Neil all right right, which was a whole

889
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: different singer that Clarence had sent to us. Yes, that

890
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: he couldn't quite get it together. He said his voice

891
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: was skipping for about a week or two. Yeah, and

892
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: then after a while we said, if you don't sing

893
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: to now tomorrow or today or tomorrow, to skip your

894
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: ass back home.

895
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 5: I said, to get on my new album. I almost

896
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 5: saw him to skip his ass back home. Yeah, he said,

897
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 5: I got you. Well, yeah, we brought alex in the studio.

898
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: I haven't got skipped back home in my life. Yeah,

899
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: see I'm not so Yeah.

900
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: Alix came in the same about four or five songs

901
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: in one night after he played all night.

902
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: In the club. Yeah, yeah, we went and grabbed him.

903
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: We said, hey, can you come because we told alex

904
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: when the Time formed, I will say this, when the

905
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Time formed. Originally Worst was going to be the drummer

906
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: in the Time and Alexander O'Neil was going to be

907
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: the lead singer in the Time. And uh, there was

908
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: a dinner that happened with Prince and everybody, and Alexander O'Neil,

909
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: who always talks in the third person, was like, you know,

910
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Princess record deal and everything's cool and everything, but you know,

911
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Alexander O'Neil needs some paper, Princess, what do you mean

912
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: I need?

913
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: You know, I need a new car and I need

914
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: a house. You know, Alexander O'Neil needs some paper. And

915
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: we're like going, we didn't even got a record deal yet,

916
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: and you're talking to this side of the record deal

917
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: man and anyway, Prince, you know, a couple of months later,

918
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: he calls and jelly Bean Johnson, our drummer, was going

919
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: to be out the group at that point, and Prince

920
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: calls Terry and just goes alex Is out, jelly Beans

921
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: and drummer mor assistant lead singer practice tomorrow at ten

922
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: o'clock or whatever. It's like, oh shoot, and that was it.

923
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Time was born.

924
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: I've seen that one trillion times in this business. I

925
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 5: watched the motherfucker talk himself out blessings, yes, one brilliant, Yes,

926
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 5: I mean I knew this young guy. He did like

927
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: a freestyle and and an eminem flewing man, hey man,

928
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 5: Timberland wanted that guy's no way to be found right, yes,

929
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 5: stratitude right, what did I say, No, I won't do that.

930
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Well, we want to do that, so to think so

931
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: that happened, Yeah, no, it happened. So the thing but

932
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: we said to Alex, we said, Alex, if we make it,

933
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and get you. And that was

934
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: our opportunity because Morris, I mean not Morris, but but

935
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: Alex was just playing in the club, you know, and

936
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: so we went and grabbed him.

937
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: Man.

938
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: We just said, hey, make can you come to the studio,

939
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: this is one in the morning, whatever, can you come

940
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: to the studio and just sing these songs real quick?

941
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: And he was like cool.

942
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: Joe and jadasshow dot com we got new merch fresh

943
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: off the presents, Go get it big out of big

944
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Speaker 4: bo Joe and jadensshow dot com.

945
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: You can get these little code for a T shirt

946
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 2: with the hoodies. It's my favorite.

947
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 5: Right there, I need an extra large showing jadenshow dot

948
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: com go there and get it.

949
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: How do you get the girl and see? Just be

950
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: good to me? Oh, she was one of the lyrics.

951
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: She was with us.

952
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: I don't care what you do with damn, just be

953
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: good to me. My wife would stabbed me with a knight.

954
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: I can't even sing to that ship when it come on.

955
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 5: I'd be like silently sometimes I be fucking out, Like well,

956
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: back in the day, these girls now they ain't saying that.

957
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 5: They're not singing that. Like Whitney Houston got the joint.

958
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 5: But what Whinnie Houston got there? She was the side check.

959
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 5: She got a whole hit record with the one right

960
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 5: right right? Yeah, she suld which one is that? The

961
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 5: Whitney Houston.

962
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: Winnie Houston got a side smashed like she does. She's like, Yo,

963
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm cool, you know do you I'm good? Damn? What

964
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: the hell is that?

965
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 9: No?

966
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: Secret luckers Hunt saving all my love for you and

967
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 5: they had secret love.

968
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: Boy.

969
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 5: They were singing that ship guys is getting away, you

970
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 5: guys just pending that ship man man.

971
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: I was raised by women, and that was that was

972
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: the reality. Now you can not like it or you

973
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: can be opposed to it, but that was how people live.

974
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: That was it.

975
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: You know. It was about that check on Friday and

976
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: the benefits and whatever you did on the weekend, see

977
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: you later, see your Monday.

978
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: That's the way it was. Work on Monday. Yeah, hell yeah,

979
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: I said work, get that check for work, get that

980
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: shack ring that ship home. Yeah. And that's why it

981
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 2: was so don't gamble a shack No.

982
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 3: No, she gets the check and she might give you

983
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: a couple of dollars to have a couple of that's work.

984
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: Today the day.

985
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: So the man worried. He come home, Mama construction, I

986
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: got my two hundred. She's like, all right, take fifty,

987
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 5: go get your hang out with your man. As my

988
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 5: sister says, less work for me to do. I was different.

989
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: My wife calls herself the CEO off my house. That's

990
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 5: that's true. Different that it's a bigger title. Now now

991
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 5: it's like, I'm wondering if that's a loophole if we

992
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 5: ever break up. She's the CEO of That means the

993
00:50:52,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: house hust like what the ship house might be using

994
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 5: yo the house.

995
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: Definitely, I'm sure you man, Hey, trust me. The women

996
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: run things, and it's just the more the earlier we

997
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: figure that.

998
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: Out better, I feel like better off.

999
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I've seen the best of the best,

1000
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: greatest of the greats men that I admired.

1001
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: Uh. They all agreed that the woman.

1002
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 5: Run ship just like you know, since the beginning of

1003
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 5: the time. That's right, and that's right like they run ship.

1004
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You know today I woke

1005
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: up high off the Oh, my wife and even play

1006
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 5: that ship last night. I once she went right up.

1007
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 5: She was like, now I ain't fucking with you, right up.

1008
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 5: She was not playing with me last night because I

1009
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 5: was on that bullshit.

1010
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: You know, we just won.

1011
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 5: Oh, I came up what king or the one line

1012
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 5: is like, I'm just just and everybody.

1013
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: For no reason, I'm not. I was on my Jada

1014
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: kissed bag.

1015
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 5: And I ship all around the room and ever and

1016
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: she said, oh, no, I've seen it. She went upstick

1017
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: and my daughter was like your wife and with Bob

1018
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 5: said no, she's seen this ship before. She ain't playing

1019
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 5: this game. She going to sleep.

1020
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: She ain't try to hear me the five in the

1021
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: morning talking about Shi this hit. She left me for

1022
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: dead in the office.

1023
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 5: She was like, oh no, this guy, he could talk

1024
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 5: to himself for four hours.

1025
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: Hold of my head.

1026
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 9: You know.

1027
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 5: The woman runs ship Man Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

1028
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 5: This year they got some serious not nominese guys really

1029
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 5: who made it and ductees. I might go there for

1030
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 5: the first time, just not be a groupie, but hang out.

1031
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: You know, Sean, they might be in there.

1032
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 11: Who tang Clan No, we might need to do Yeah, yeah,

1033
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 11: Clan mc light. You might need to bring Joe and

1034
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 11: Jayda then and get no James put that down.

1035
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 5: We gotta do that all rock and roll and rock

1036
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 5: and roll the go, fuck with everybody.

1037
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Coverage November November Luther Luther, Luther's nominating He's in.

1038
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 5: You know, it's my favorite single of all time. What's

1039
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 5: your experience with Luther? You guys, you guys, I'll tell

1040
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 5: you that.

1041
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: Well.

1042
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: To me, the Luther story that I got, I mean,

1043
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of with us, but the best one

1044
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: for me was we had done this song. We written

1045
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: a song called the Thriller Men, and we always heard

1046
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Luther singing and we thought, man, this thrill I'm in, Yes,

1047
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: the thrill I'm in. And so we sent it to

1048
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: him and never heard a thing, didn't hear nothing, never

1049
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: never heard anything. And then there was a movie. He

1050
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: used to do movie screenings at his house and stuff,

1051
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: and so we went to this movie screening at his

1052
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: house and he said, and we were getting ready to

1053
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: do the More Money soundtrack and we said, hey, Luther,

1054
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: I said, you know, we got this song. Man, We

1055
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: sent you this song like a long time ago. And

1056
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: I said, but we never heard anything. And he sings it.

1057
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I remember that song. And he goes

1058
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: to three alarmed men, the three alarmed men, the three

1059
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: alarmed men, and he starts singing, and we were like,

1060
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: oh man. He said yeah, and I said, well, we

1061
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: want to do this soundtrack. He said yeah, yeah, he said,

1062
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: I'll do the soundtrack. He said, but I want to

1063
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: do something different. So what do you want to do?

1064
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: He said, I want to do something up tempo and

1065
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: funky because people don't think I can do up.

1066
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: Tempo and funky.

1067
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: We're like okay, and he said, and I want to

1068
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: do it as a duet with Janet Jackson. And we

1069
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: were like okay, like Okay, that wasn't what we had

1070
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: and I planned, but okay, let's figure that out. We

1071
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: ended up doing the best things in life are free.

1072
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: And he killed that record. Him and Janet killed that record.

1073
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: And Luther never really sang to up tempo music like that.

1074
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: That was just two or three. That was his point,

1075
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: and he never sang anything like he got.

1076
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah you need guess he got caught like about three

1077
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: or four.

1078
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 5: But most of me, it's like houses on, you know.

1079
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 5: I got a crazy story with Luther. Luther is my

1080
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: favorite singer of all time. And I remember he was

1081
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 5: passing away and a friend of mine told me what

1082
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 5: hospital he was in. I pulled up with my wife

1083
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 5: and I was outside, and once again I was scared

1084
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 5: to go upstairs.

1085
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: I said, damn, he wouldn't know me.

1086
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 5: And I said, I don't think he know fat yoe,

1087
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: And I was scared to go upstairs.

1088
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: It was Beth Israel on second half.

1089
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: I went in front of the hospital and I ain't

1090
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: have the balls to go upstairs and be like, how

1091
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 5: you doing, mister Van George because I knew they was like, yo,

1092
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 5: he's passing ways on the eighth floor, whatever, ninth floor.

1093
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 5: Beth Israel, if you want to come back, I know

1094
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 5: how much you love him. I was like, I felt

1095
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 5: like it wasn't the right time, but that was a

1096
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: you know, chicking out.

1097
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: You know, Luke is the bit God morety one top

1098
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: hits in the US, more than any other production in existence.

1099
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: Was definitely.

1100
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: That's always I always say, we work with good people

1101
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: and they make us look good. That's so much well

1102
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: I put it, I put it now. Man, it's a blessing.

1103
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: Man.

1104
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: We get to work with great people, and we get

1105
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: to work with people who were fans of because not

1106
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: everybody who we don't feel like we have ideas for everybody.

1107
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: Like there's certain people that if somebody will say a

1108
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: name and we'll go, oh, we love them, but we

1109
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: don't have an idea for them. But certain people we

1110
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: have idea for. I was thinking of somebody, particularly since

1111
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: we're in New York, and I was thinking of when

1112
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: we were talking about songs that would have gone somewhere else,

1113
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: and there was one song that we really held on

1114
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: to for almost a year, and that was when we

1115
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: did No More Drama with Mary J. Blige and I

1116
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: remember we played the song for her. We had written

1117
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing, the lyrics and everything. We played the

1118
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: song for her and we said, you can change the

1119
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: lyrics or whatever you want to do to it, and

1120
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: she said, I'm not changing a thing on this song.

1121
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: She said, this is like you were following me around

1122
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: with a private detective. But she said, but I'm not

1123
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: quite ready to do that song yet. It'll be good

1124
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: for my next album. And we're thinking like, okay, yeah, okay,

1125
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: she must not really like it. But then every month

1126
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: she would call us and go, you didn't give that

1127
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: song away?

1128
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: Did you realize? No, that song was written specifically for.

1129
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 5: Us to happen to me. Right now, I'm working on

1130
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 5: the album and street running. My brother he never did

1131
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 5: this before, but he sent me a beat. I did

1132
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 5: a whole song to it, this and this and that,

1133
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 5: and now when it's time to clear this sample, he's like, oh,

1134
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 5: so did the Rick ross herself?

1135
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, good brother. You know I hate hey, he

1136
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: never did that in his life.

1137
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: I've been working with him twenty years. Maybe I didn't

1138
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 5: tell him loud enough I loved this song or the beat?

1139
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: What yeah saying?

1140
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: Because he's never one thing I could say when people

1141
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 5: fuck up and fuck up on a regular basis, not

1142
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: this guy. This guy has never done it. But I

1143
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: was like, damn, and you know, it went to a

1144
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 5: girl or you know, somebody. I'm going to buy the

1145
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 5: album as soon as it comes out with Ross, so

1146
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, exactly, you got to support.

1147
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it all ends up in the

1148
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: place it should. And she did, like literally when you know,

1149
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: seven eight months later, when she started putting the new

1150
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: album together, she said no More, No More drumas going

1151
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: to be the title track, and we were like, okay, cool,

1152
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: and it was and she killed it and her Grammy

1153
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 1: performance was one of the best, like she shut it down.

1154
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1155
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: So it's nice to be involved. I say that simply

1156
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: to say certain people just inspire us and then we

1157
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: really get inspired to do our best work. And so

1158
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: it's always a team effort. You know, it's the artist,

1159
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: but it's also the combination of us.

1160
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 5: You know, I need all of us to get spirit

1161
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: you right now, because we got the bigger than icons here.

1162
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 5: I was going to the nickname the other day and

1163
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 5: there was a streamer out there and he said one

1164
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: hundred thousand times. He kept saying Jennen Brunt and jenn Brunton. Right,

1165
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 5: So I want us for to say Joe's gonna get

1166
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 5: a Grammy. Joe's gonna get it, Joe.

1167
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: We can't do that.

1168
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 5: Kiss you on the project. You want to say, Yeah,

1169
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 5: Joe's gonna get a Gramm. Joe's gonna get a Grammy.

1170
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: Joe, Jos Joe, you know I support I pull up.

1171
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: Everybody had a mink on that day. I was yo.

1172
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 2: I didn't go like super fly, like I went under

1173
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: the radar. Everybody had a sin hilla on that day

1174
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: when he didn't show me. Everybody, I'm waiting on line

1175
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: for my car.

1176
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 5: Everybody was out there said dim and everybody came up

1177
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 5: with they fly and ship.

1178
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: You slip this time, Joe. You let them beat you

1179
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: to it. But what a great experience man that. I

1180
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: mean you guys, the residency is going to be so

1181
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: everywhere you've been, you've been sold out. And this guy,

1182
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: this guy works hard, my number, trust me, he works hard.

1183
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: This guy want license.

1184
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 5: While he'd be like yo, yo Joe, Joe, sure you

1185
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 5: don't want to come in now? You ain't never, I'm yeah,

1186
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: because you got to different.

1187
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: Jay.

1188
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 5: It's like they sit there and they tell a story

1189
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 5: and then it's like, yo, we did and it won't stop.

1190
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 5: It won't they just and it keeps you see, no

1191
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 5: more drama. Go back to west Man, go back to Alexander,

1192
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 5: or the to new addition to this one.

1193
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's crazy what I do in the

1194
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: in the in the Vegas, I doing DJ, said, I

1195
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: do a DJ set too, because that's where the name

1196
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Jam came from.

1197
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: I was a DJ. You got, so I go back

1198
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: and do a little DJ. Most producers were DJs, a

1199
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: lot of them, a lot of them.

1200
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 9: And Dre.

1201
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: They were DJs, a lot of them, DJ Premier, Doctor Dre.

1202
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: I surprised you wasn't man.

1203
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 5: I sucked that DJ. The only ship I sucked that man.

1204
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 5: I did graffiti, I break dance, I rap paus. Guy's

1205
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 5: got a weird sense of you.

1206
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, but I try to DJ.

1207
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 5: Shout out to DJ Sergs my brother, and he tried

1208
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 5: to teach me, and I just could never, ever, ever,

1209
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 5: ever get. I would go to his house in the

1210
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 5: whole summer day and I could have been somewhere having fun,

1211
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 5: and I'd be like, yo, come on me, like YO,

1212
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 5: catch it.

1213
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't I can't DJ.

1214
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 5: I've always thought right because I got to good Year,

1215
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 5: I got a super here. Yeah, sort if I could produce,

1216
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 5: I would I get frustrated, right, So, like with Scott Storch,

1217
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 5: I told him lean back, man, man, I told him

1218
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 5: make it rain. I told him play this, oh candy Shop,

1219
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 5: play this. And he's one of the only producers in

1220
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 5: hip hop that could play whatever you do. If you

1221
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 5: do any melody in your head, he'll play right. Yeah,

1222
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: So we made them hits together. He took credit. But

1223
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 5: if I knew the business like now, I would have

1224
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 5: been producer, right. But it's cool Scott, but nah, it's cool.

1225
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 5: But I'd be frustrated because sometimes I hear like an

1226
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 5: old school song and I hear a breakdown and I'd

1227
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 5: be like, oh God, Like if I was a producer,

1228
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 5: I would chop that right now, like this is.

1229
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: Man, it's just so many It's a record that I've.

1230
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 5: Been hearing for years at the barge and it just

1231
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: breaks down into this music at the end of it,

1232
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: and I'd be like, fuck, every single time I've heard

1233
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 5: this for forty years, I hear that breakdown, I'm like

1234
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: and by flips that that ship is every time, I

1235
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 5: why don't you flip it? I don't know, because I'm

1236
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 5: not a producer, you know what I mean. But you know,

1237
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 5: but every time I hear it, every time I hear

1238
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 5: that breakdown, I'm like, so if you say, what's my man?

1239
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 5: They honored him last year. But oh where Biggie got

1240
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 5: hypnotized from being.

1241
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: Her Ben and you did? You know that came from that?

1242
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: And then I think went into boom.

1243
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 12: You know, they played me sympnotized before they played it

1244
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 12: for big No, like if you wanted to be they

1245
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 12: they played it for us and told this you can't

1246
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 12: have it.

1247
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1248
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 5: I was in the studium when he made hypnotize, and

1249
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 5: that man listened to that beat thirty six thousand times

1250
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 5: and went like it just was just running all day.

1251
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: It was like the background music for whatever's going on

1252
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: in the studio. And let me tell you something. I

1253
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: tell the story all the time. I tell it again.

1254
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 5: Twelve o'clock, Biggie had ten Asian women in there, most

1255
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 5: beautiful aging women. One o'clock they left. Ten white girls

1256
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 5: came in there looking like fucking a movie models. Two o'clock,

1257
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 5: ten black chicks came up in there. This this and

1258
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 5: that it was o'clock ten latinos came up here. I said, Yo,

1259
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 5: this is the fucking man I'm sitting up in there

1260
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 5: with me. I said, yo, this guy is the illest ever.

1261
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 5: And that hypnotize came out of that.

1262
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: But already I had known the original from that Luke

1263
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: and Laura General Hospital. That was like the marriage song, right,

1264
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: that's right. That was crazy. Oh that's funny. So you

1265
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: were soap erpera dude were to day there so much score.

1266
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: I was a regent.

1267
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: Everybody it was on this so I was just watching it.

1268
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 4: So you start watching it? Yeah, my babysitters. Well I

1269
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 4: couldn't escape it. Then I just had to start watching.

1270
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: That's so funny, man, I know. But that's that's why.

1271
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: That's where no more drummer came from Young and Wrestlers,

1272
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: which I still watch.

1273
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: I still watch. You you want to know what's.

1274
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 5: Crazy that girl? Remember they only had one black girl

1275
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 5: and one black dude. Yes, you know she's still doing.

1276
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: Lifetime movies every every day. Well you know there's a

1277
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: new couple. They just she is starring in the all

1278
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: Lifetime movies. She's the mother of every Lifetime movie, the

1279
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: grandmother now that.

1280
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know there's one. There's a a one

1281
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: called Beyond the Gates. It's all black, and they did

1282
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: a crossover with young and wrestlers. That's actually happening right now.

1283
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: It's dope. So never saw that. Yeah, man, check it out.

1284
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: It's all black, all black, all the producers, everybody on

1285
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 1: at the writers, everybody's all black.

1286
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: It's so good. Huh And that did it. Oh, that's awesome.

1287
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy about that. No, it is a great show.

1288
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: We got. We got some other soap opera fans out there.

1289
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 9: I like that.

1290
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 5: I like that.

1291
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Standish people this corner. No, yeah, novellas, that's right there. No.

1292
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 5: Grandmother never left four Corners. My grandmother never. She came

1293
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 5: from Puerto Rico when she was fifteen, living the same project,

1294
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 5: and that ainty. Given time you go over there, she

1295
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 5: walk into the supermarket.

1296
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: Backup. The woman never went to Manhattan or Brooklyn or Queen's.

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Speaker 2: That was just that.

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Speaker 5: I shot a video. Shout out to Tommy Natola, his

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Speaker 5: wife got Lee up. We did a song together. I

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 5: shot a video. It's the only time on Earth my

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 5: grandmother left the block. She wanted to meet Tyleiah because

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 5: Tyleiah was the star of the soap operas, and yes,

1303
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: so I brought her to meet thy Leah.

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01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: That shit was the craziest ship in the work. You're

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01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: that's powerful. Soap operas are powerful right now. All this

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01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: baddies and all that shit, that's the new soap opera.

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01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: You do know that.

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about nice Cy and I the bomb

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01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 5: under the car. I'm trying to figure out how my

1310
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 5: wife is trying to kill me to take the paper

1311
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 5: because she watches this lifetime and all they do is

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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 5: kill a husband. I just all they doing is showing

1313
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 5: these women how to kill a husband. For the fucking things.

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 5: She's always killing something. She's in the other showing on

1315
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 5: BT two is a big show about the black guy,

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01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 5: Beauty and black. She's on there too. She's killing.

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: That's good to see it. Still work killing. That's good killing.

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 5: Let's tell them the dates of Vegas again. The Residency.

1319
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's going to be sold out. You guys

1320
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 5: were selling out everywhere. Anybody who ever loved this song.

1321
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 5: What about the Minnesota State Fair? We're doing that too,

1322
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 5: were doing that. That's August twenty ninth. We're doing that

1323
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 5: Saturday Saturday night, the first Saturday of the fair. And

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 5: we grew up going to the Minnesota State Fair. I

1325
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 5: used to remember when I was a little kid.

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Speaker 1: I used to go and they had these little parts

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01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: where they used to have like keyboards, like organs and stuff.

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01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: I used to spend like three or four hours in there. Man,

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. They've never kicked me out, man, but I was.

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: That was my little thing.

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 5: You may y'all got to get them down to Miami.

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 5: What's that the jazz? Yeah, I'll be doing jazzazz and

1334
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 5: gud body, Yeah, jazz in garden.

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Speaker 1: When we went in the Songwriters Hall of Fame, which

1336
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: was like seven years ago, they asked us, what do

1337
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: you want to do that you haven't done yet?

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01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: And we were on the red carpet and standing.

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01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: Next to us with Babyface as a matter of fact,

1340
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: and we looked at Babyface and we said, well, we

1341
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:57,919
Speaker 1: never worked with Babyface.

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: We'd like to do that. So we did. We did

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: that's never worked with me. At that point in time,

1344
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: seven years ago, we hadn't done it.

1345
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: And we did a song called he Don't Know Nothing

1346
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: About It with Babyface on our Jamma Lewis find One album,

1347
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: so we did that. Then we did and we did

1348
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: our Jamma Lewis Find One album. That was the second

1349
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: thing we said, we want to finish our album that

1350
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: we've never finished, so we did that. The third thing

1351
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: we said was we would like to go play our

1352
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: catalog of songs live because we had never done that.

1353
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: We'd only done live performance with the Time, you know,

1354
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: with the Time stuff, which was you know, forty years ago.

1355
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: So we said, we want to do that. So now

1356
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: we're finally getting the opportunity to do that. And so,

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of that point of our

1358
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: lives where we were looking for things to do that

1359
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: we haven't done yet. And I think that's the fun thing,

1360
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 1: have things to look forward to, you know.

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01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: That's what That's right. You know.

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01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 5: Baby Face the one guy I'm a friend of that

1363
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 5: I say all the time. I can't believe I'm his friend.

1364
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 5: I looked up to him my whole life, loved his music,

1365
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 5: and then I became friends.

1366
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: Like I believe this shit.

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 5: When I'm having in it with baby Face, I'm like,

1368
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 5: fucking Babyface, if you motherfuckers could see me in eighty eight, now.

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm with Face, Baby That's funny crazy by the way,

1370
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something funny.

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01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: So back when you know, supposedly we were like feuding

1372
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: with each other, right, it was the La and baby

1373
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: Face versus Jammer Lewis right when people were trying to

1374
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: set that kind of thing up. And we would go

1375
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: to dinner together and we'd be at a restaurant and

1376
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: just be chilling and stuff and talking and people would

1377
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: come up to us and they go like, ain't you

1378
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: Jamming Lewis? Go yeah, ain't y'all baby facing La? Yeah,

1379
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: and y'all having dinner together. It was like, yeah, we're cool.

1380
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: But that was back in the Right Arm magazine. I

1381
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: was like the magazine and it was always be like

1382
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: it would be us versus each other, and we were

1383
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: like going, we're competing with one hundred songs on that chart.

1384
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: We're trying to all compete with those songs, so we're

1385
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 2: not horrible.

1386
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 5: It was also another horrible time because it was uh,

1387
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't social media or nothing like that,

1388
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 5: and they would push shit in the magazines and to

1389
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 5: say they would say Michael Jackson thought he was from

1390
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 5: out of space because he would be a hyperbaris machine

1391
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 5: and my man. Dre got one in his house, Yes,

1392
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 5: and then they would be man because you got botox

1393
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 5: and you can't see a fucking person on earth.

1394
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: Without bowtox, normal lights, normal. It's the craziest shit I've

1395
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: ever seen.

1396
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 5: At that time, people could control the narrative, really really

1397
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: control the narrative.

1398
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1399
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 5: If you have somebody really really strong against you media.

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01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 5: All right, so yo, this ain't that.

1401
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 4: That ain't this cracking kiss makes some noise for Jimmy,

1402
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: Jimmy try.

1403
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: You know, I should have worn one of them. Hass

1404
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: Man came up in here on that ship. You know

1405
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But thank you guys so much. We

1406
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: love man appreciate it. One second.

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Speaker 13: First of all, I want to think everybody in the room,

1408
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 13: as Jimmy and Terry would say, I heard them say

1409
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 13: often that, you know, the stuff they do wouldn't be

1410
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 13: possible if it wasn't for the people who streamed the music,

1411
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 13: the people purchased the music, the people who play the music,

1412
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 13: the DJs, and certainly wouldn't be possible if it wasn't

1413
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 13: for all the people behind the scenes here, for all

1414
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 13: the people who often don't get the credit.

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01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 2: So thank you, guys.

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 13: Everybody in the room, thank you very much for allowing

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 13: them to come here and do this. And Joe, I

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 13: want to say thank you because I put you on

1419
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 13: the spot last time we did our event in New

1420
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 13: York and you told me you wanted to sit back

1421
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 13: and chill and you you didn't just want the cell

1422
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 13: fi music to do a big fan and so we

1423
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 13: did do the ALU. But don't go figure, don't want

1424
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 13: Joe's record. Let's see what happened. Tell me we did,

1425
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 13: and we put them MiG next to him, and like

1426
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 13: the superstar that you are, you came and you gave

1427
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 13: us a mini concert to help all the mant the event.

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01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 13: And I wanted to Yeah, I want to do something

1429
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 13: to pay how much to you guys. And I know

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 13: that both of you guys are big Knick fans. And

1431
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 13: I have a friend that I went to high school

1432
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 13: with the best high school in New York City and

1433
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 13: probably in the world, performing on high school wadle high

1434
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 13: school artists.

1435
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: We have tons of talented people. Body is an amazing artists.

1436
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: And I know both of you are big Knick fans.

1437
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,839
Speaker 2: So we got you this right here, this custom painting

1438
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: that I wanted to give you this right here and.

1439
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 5: I met.

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: I hope you guys. Man, yeah man, I'm love here,

1441
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: love that. Check it out. And this is the guy

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01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: that did. His name is Body. That's all