1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're all gonna try to 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: stay upright on this show. I'm Greg Rosenthal here with 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue, and we have breaking news from the Indianapolis 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Convention Center. Jordan took a little bit of a spill 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: just a few moments ago, just feet away from Nick 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Sirianni on live television. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's killing me. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really see it as it was happening, But 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: just talk me through what was going through your mind 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: as it was happening. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: You've never wanted to You've never wished you had seen 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: something more than when instead of listen, instead of running 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: over to try to help me up, like our wonderful producers, 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: camera people, audio guys did to run everyone ran over 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: to try to help me up. 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: Yak turns around and says, I wish I would have 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: seen that. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I'm a little guy on a 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: eye chair. It's a long way down for me to 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: get down and help you there. But thankfully Jordan's okay. 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: No twisted ankles helped a little pride, But hey, there's 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot going on. There's a lot of people here, 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of coaches here, there's a lot of 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: gms here. It feels like Groundhog Day. We have done 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: these Tuesdays at the Scouting Combine for years and it's 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: still going. For some reason, they've really kind of man 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: spread the press conferences throughout the day, and there's coaches 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: that are still going up up to up until five thirty, 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: but for the most part, like forty five of the 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: fifty have gone up. 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: And what we're gonna do. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through a ton of items and news 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: before a couple great interviews with two return guests, Bears 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: General Manager Ryan Poles and Raiders General manager John Spytek. 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: We have some other great interviews that you're gonna hear 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week, Brandon Bean of the Bills, 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Omar Khan, the GM of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then 38 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers brain trust. We might have some more coming 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: up this week, but today there's so much news we 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to have news forward, so it's a 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: challenge for us. 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Jordan. 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite news days of the year 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: because it's not a ton of screaming news, but it's 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot of just little items that push us in 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: the direction of figuring out how these teams are going 47 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to be constructed this year. And I'm going to start 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: with the most surprising one of the day, which came 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: out just before we started taping, that Trent Williams could 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: be a free agent now could be is doing a 51 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: lot of work here. The report comes from Adam Schefter 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: of ESPN, But basically, Trent Williams and the forty nine 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: ers are in a surprising contract standoff. He has a 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: huge cap number that they want to lower. They can't 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: agree on a contract, and at this point at least 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: someone is saying that Trent Williams could be on the 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: free agent list, which makes me wonder where would he go. 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: That's for me to think about. While you tell me 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: where you think this is coming from. 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I think this one's hard to tell because 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: if it's the team that put it out, then the 62 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: team is saying is making a statement publicly, Hey, this 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: is if this happens. 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: This is why. 65 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: If it's coming from Trent Williams's camp, that's even more 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: interesting to me because that's immediately saying we're open for 67 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: business in a week where a lot of stuff happens 68 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: in behind closed doors and a lot of these conversations happen, 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: but it's not legal yet, right, So that's them. If 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: that is coming from them, that's that's basically. 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Saying, hell, it's a leaky ship over there. With San Francisco, 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: they talk a lot. But I would imagine for this 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: to get to the point where you report on it, 74 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: you're probably even checking with your people on both sides. 75 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, drama, drama, drama off the top of mind 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: to your point, because you asked, Hey, who could be 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: a team? Like, who would want any pretty much anyone? 78 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: And yes, the number is the number he would sign 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: up would be huge and that. 80 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: Whole hurdle would have to be worked out. 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: But I am of the firm opinion that as long 82 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: as Tren Williams wants to be playing football, any team, 83 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: even even with a question mark at left tackle, even 84 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: coming back from injury at left tackle. We're going to 85 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: hear from a guy later in the show that was 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: really aggressive trying to fix the offensive line. Any team 87 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: that needs a left tackle would go after him aggressive. 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: You're talking about Ryan Poles, who is going to need 89 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: a left tackle, by the way, Yeah, interesting, I was 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: also thinking about John Spytek, who's on the show because 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: he has one hundred million dollars in cap space and 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: a team that wants to do short money for a 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: guy that to me, it's risky to say this, but 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: is a first ballot Hall of Famer and maybe didn't 95 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: have his very best season this year, is getting older, 96 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: so the contract's a little tricky for the team that 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: he plays for. But he could get a short term deal. 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: And when I look at my list of free agents, 99 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where he'll land, but it's certainly in 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: the top twelve. It doesn't you know, it might be 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: in the top five. I have to think more about it. 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: We don't need to do that on this show. But 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: he would be one of the premier free agents and 104 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: would be the top tackle. The Texans had some interesting 105 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: sound throughout the day, lots of you know, drips and 106 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: drabs of interesting things about the Technans. But number one 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: was I thought, how strong Nick Cassario, their general manager, 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: was talking about CJ. Fratt Stroud's future with the team. 109 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's our quarterback. He ain't going anywhere. We have 110 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: a lot of confidence, a lot of belief. I mean, 111 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: i'd say the philosophy of Dimique and I have. We're 112 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: gonna support our players and do everything we can to 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: kind of help them. And this leads about ups and downs. 114 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: I mean nothing's perfect. I mean there's no team that 115 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 5: was undfeed unless I missed them this year, so that's 116 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 5: not going to happen. 117 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: I just like how clear Casario was. 118 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: Perhaps it was unfounded speculation that got this in the 119 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: in the ethosphere. 120 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: I don't really know. That's not even a word. I'm 121 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: just making things up. 122 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: But I do like to know that that CJ is 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and they were really strong about it. 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: Does that and John McClain doesn't have to run down 125 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: the street that's the big news, completely naked, no, this 126 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: This is not surprising to me or probably many people 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: at all. 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: I do think it was interesting that well. 129 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: I think a lot of this is media driven right 130 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: this particular scenario, and I think a lot of it's 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: because a. 132 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Lot of people would love to see c J. 133 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: Stroud on their football team and their preferred football team. 134 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: So chatter starts to gain in crescendo at that point 135 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: because this never made any sense at all, and it 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: also is something that's important for him and his camp 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: to hear. Even if they're being told behind closed doors 138 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: that this is never going to happen. It's really important 139 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 3: for a young player coming off of a real shot 140 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: to his confidence at the end of the season that 141 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: this team still believes in him so. 142 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: Robustly he's going through it. 143 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: He just made a speech which you can find online 144 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: at a charity kind of a religious and charity event, 145 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: where he said, I'm gonna talk right now about suffering, 146 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: and he had a couple of minutes speech it's worth 147 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: listening to about what it's like to suffer, and he 148 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: referred exactly to the playoff game. But I just liked, 149 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: as a Stroud fan hearing he is not going anywhere. 150 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: And there are different levels of denial of stories like this. 151 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: This is the type of denial that you have that 152 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: there's absolutely nothing to it. And it's a reminder that 153 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote league sources people around the league often don't 154 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: know what the hell they're talking about, because I don't 155 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: doubt that it came from anywhere. But a lot of 156 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: these stories on every outlet are like, well, a lot 157 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: of the you know, league executives around the league are 158 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: talking about this is what they're gonna think is gonna happen. 159 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: It's like, Yeah, a lot of people talk about things 160 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: they think they're gonna happen that they don't have any 161 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: clue about. And just because you have a good job 162 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL doesn't mean you have any better idea. 163 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: And so I liked hearing this. I also thought it 164 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: was interesting. Casario said he thought that the offensive line 165 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: played pretty well last year, that maybe he watched different 166 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: film than the people that were asking the question, saying, 167 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, talking about their struggles. Just interesting. Also, Aaron 168 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Wilson from that local market says they're expected to cut 169 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. Not surprising there, but a little juice here 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: that he believes. Aaron Wilson does that they are going 171 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: big quote unquote on the running back market, and frankly, 172 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I think there's only two names that would qualify there 173 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: at least of free agents that are available, and that 174 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: would be Travis Yten or maybe even more likely Kenneth Walker. 175 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: How about that. 176 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: I think that a zone running team such as the 177 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: one that Nick Kyley would like to deploy in this 178 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: offense with a tandem when Woody Marks is back and 179 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: can be in tandem with a really like someone who 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: runs the zone run scheme more gorgeously than I think 181 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people have ever done it, just the artistry. 182 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: Behind it in Kenneth Walker. 183 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: My inclination would lead toward that ETN would be so 184 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: much fun with the Texans, just AFC, the AFC connection, 185 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: and I just it would be really fun. 186 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: They've seen him a lot. 187 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of times when you see someone 188 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: perform well against you, you end up liking him. Unlikely 189 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: for them to get Breist Hall Darren Moosey, the Jets 190 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: general manager in the shade, I am sure. I looked 191 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: at Darren Mugie for a while on Tuesday and I 192 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: was watching John Harbaugh and I was watching Robert Salad, 193 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: two captivating men in front of a microphone, and I 194 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: look over at Mugie and I'm just thinking, embarrassingly, so 195 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: for the second straight year, who is that? Like I 196 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: know every GM, right, I know every GM and coach. 197 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, who is that? And I'm getting old it 198 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: was Darren Muji. 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: That's on me. That's not on him. He's not a 200 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: guy who. 201 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: Also, the listeners should know there are also several charts 202 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: with names and titles. 203 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: On my phone. 204 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: That's not the point the Convention Center, so there really 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 3: was no reason. 206 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: Not the point. That's not the point. 207 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: The point is Darren Mugi is the Jets general manager, 208 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: at least for one more season. He says that Breeze 209 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Hall will be tagged, which no one was really sure about. 210 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: So that that's when we got right. We were wrong 211 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: about Kenneth Walker, right about Brees Hall. So he will stay. 212 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: One less problem for them to worry about. Let's go 213 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: to another team, because man, we got a lot of 214 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: items here and we got fight. 215 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: I am going to count how many items. 216 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to count the running backs of Houston as 217 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: one topic, and so right now we have hit four 218 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: topics so far. This is going to inform our title 219 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: of the show, fifty topics or takeaways from the scouting combine. 220 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Eric DaCosta a lot of takeaways from him. Number one, 221 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: he indicated, Marlin Humphrey not gonna get cut. These are 222 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: the types of items you can learn on a day 223 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: like this. Their speculation Martlin Humphrey was gonna get cut. 224 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: He indicated, we don't even need to adjust his contract. 225 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: We are in on the Marlin Humphrey business. Okay, unless 226 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: he's lying, which they don't they don't do. In this spot, 227 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: he admitted we need a pass rush. We need it 228 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: so that that that's gonna be a priority. Not a surprise, 229 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: but he's just saying, what's their biggest need. That's gonna 230 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: be another I'm ticking off two box and then number three. 231 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I'll get your thoughts on this. We consider Tyler Linderbaum 232 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: the best center in the NFL, and we've offered a 233 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: market setting deal to him. 234 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: That's a little that's a little bit of that's like a. 235 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: Lot more honest than I expected, because a lot of 236 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: times when you ask these gms this question, they say 237 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: we've been in contact with, or we've had some positive 238 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: discussions with, or we are close to the two sides 239 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: are close, and we expect that this will remain positive. 240 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: Like it's sort of hedged like that a lot. This 241 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: is the. 242 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: Ravens and Eric Tacosta specifically saying it's on them. 243 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: If this delays, it's them. 244 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I love that interpretation and I love it combining it 245 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: with what we learned on Monday show. I know you 246 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to get to it. You're you're 247 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: in every show listener when you're not on it, but 248 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: it's tough. 249 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: I know, I keep hearing about this show and I'm 250 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: that I haven't listened to it yet. 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Ian and this may you know, people were tweeting about this. 252 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: Ian indicated Linderbaum's agent not an easy guy to deal with. 253 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: His tactic in general is to just never respond. 254 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: To wow first men, Am I right? 255 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a pretty good tactic and one 256 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: that would frustrate someone like Eric Tacosta. So it reminds 257 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: me of a couple of different examples, like Lamar Jackson. 258 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: They talked about that justin Jefferson. They talked about that like, hey, 259 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: we've already offered we are gonna make him the highest 260 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: paid wide receiver in the league. The Ravens are saying, 261 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: we are gonna make Linderbaum the best, the best you know, 262 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: center offer in the league. We consider him the best 263 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: center that it's bold. It does make me think there's 264 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: a bigger chance of him returning to the Ravens than previous. 265 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: But it also makes me wonder this agent knows the 266 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: most money is getting the free agency. Maybe maybe this 267 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: money is gonna get crazy, Maybe he's gonna get tackle money. 268 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: What if he what if he's like just watching clips 269 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: as they come out that he's like watching like NFL 270 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: Network or something at night, you know, skying down for 271 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: the evening, and this comes this clip comes up and 272 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: he's like, what, we haven't responded yet. 273 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: It then becomes a little incumbent, maybe on the player too, 274 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: because the reality is he's not getting franchise tagged, and 275 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: it is almost stupid to take any deal or respond 276 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: until you get closer to free agency because they might 277 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: lose this staring contest because that number actually might get 278 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: as high as the franchise they. 279 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: Told it could get. It could get to like twenty 280 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: five million or something. 281 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: This is there is some risk in this in a 282 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: who blinks first situation, because they've essentially told every other 283 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: team in the league what that number is. So it's 284 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: basically like price is right, oh, plus one dollar, you know. 285 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean it wouldn't be that low, but still it's 286 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: that is that is very interesting to me. 287 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: I do. 288 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 4: I do like them sort of putting it all out 289 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: there like that. 290 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: I love it. 291 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: The Giants and the Chargers I think will be in 292 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: on Tyler Linderbaum. Howie Roseman spoke to his local media 293 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: on Friday, and then they embargoed it until Tuesday. 294 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: Bizarre. 295 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Then they did press conferences here. Anyways, why did they 296 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: do that? I don't really know a few things that 297 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: how he said. Between the two pressers I found interesting. 298 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Number one, he pointed out, like, can we keep all 299 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: of our guys considering all the great defensive contracts coming up. 300 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: So if you think that's the flip side of the 301 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: great draft that they had with Quinon Mitchell and Cooper 302 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Degene and Jalen Carter specifically those and. 303 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: They're not going to be able to pay Cooper like 304 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: a safety. 305 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: Well he I'm going to mark down two different items here. 306 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: He also made a comment on Tuesday, your buddy Brooks 307 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: from the Athletic Kapka, I never know how to pronounce 308 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: his last name, Golf. 309 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: That's the golfer. We're gonna edit that. 310 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: No, we're leaving that in. 311 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: NOA starts both starts with the cave watch. 312 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: We both got it wrong. 313 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: He said that he really believes, like Cooper dies, he 314 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: needs to stay at Nickel. When you have someone that 315 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: is the best in the league at what he does 316 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: and offers us that much flexibility, we're not moving him. 317 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: And so that was very definitive like he is not. 318 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: He's not We're not looking him as an option at 319 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: safety or at outside cornerback. And I think he indicated 320 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: with that question, can we keep all of our guys 321 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: when we have these coming up that maybe don't be 322 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: as optimistic, certainly about Dallas Goddard who they said they'll 323 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: talk to, but I think he's gone. But maybe Jalen 324 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Phillips too, Maybe he goes, Yeah, maybe n Kobe Dean goes. 325 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: I actually expect Na Kobe Dean to go. 326 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: And Phillips is the one hearing that comment that I'm like, hmm, 327 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: maybe they're not able to keep him. 328 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: I think watch Jalen Phillips and Christian Parker who's now 329 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: in Dallas as the defensive coordinator. 330 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: Potentially. You know, Dallas very. 331 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: Famously lost a significant pass rusher last offseason. This is not, 332 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: by any means a one to one comparison, not even close. 333 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: But Christian Parker had a great relationship with all those 334 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: players on the defensive side, and I think Dallas could 335 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: certainly use They have a couple of young guys coming 336 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: up who I think are great, but they could absolutely 337 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: use more juice there. 338 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: They do, and they could create more room with some 339 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: of their guys that are still on the roster with 340 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: some potential cuts. So very interesting in the NFC East. 341 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's stay there and let's go to John Harbaugh, who, Yeah, 342 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to listen to him because you know, 343 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: he's got that new coach energy. I gotta give him credit, 344 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it's fake it till you 345 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: make it, but he like he doesn't give second coach energy. 346 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: He gives like this is my first time. He said, 347 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take off my credential so that you can 348 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: see the New York Football Giants on my chest because 349 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited. And he's just beaming from the podium. Even 350 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: when answering some awkward questions. He was asked about his owner, 351 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Steve Tisch, does he still believe in his ownership as 352 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: much after Tish's name was prominently mentioned in the Epstein 353 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Files and was asked questions to Roger Goodell. He said, yes, 354 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: he handled that question fine, and there was some follow ups, 355 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: but basically he gave as good a non answer as 356 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: he could. He also said, very specifically, he really wants 357 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence on this team that he's going to be 358 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: a big part of this team. So that was kind 359 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: of another one of those Marlon Humphrey type answers where 360 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I thought he might get cut or traded. 361 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: Sounds like Dexter Lawrence is going to be there. What's 362 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: your Harbaugh vibe right now? 363 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: You know when you were you got really excited about 364 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: this and the new coach energy not retread coach energy 365 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: kind of thing, and it brought me back. Actually, Greg, 366 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: we were sitting right here a year ago, basically this week, 367 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: and John Spytech and Pete Carroll walked in looking cool 368 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: as hell in silver and black, and Pete Carroll was 369 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: a sunbeam who was absolutely ready to do this. Now, 370 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: the age thing is what it is. That's not a 371 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: one to one comp I've but it's interesting. It's interesting 372 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: to me. 373 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: How are you saying we can feel this interpretation of 374 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: a press conference in February might not be the best 375 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: indicator of wins and losses. 376 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: You know, I am saying that, And also I'm saying 377 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: I think that you are heavily influenced by strong energy. 378 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. I gotta say, I don't know if 379 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: we said this on the show. And maybe this is 380 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: me just remembering it how I want to remember it. 381 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't that high on the Raiders really like going 382 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: into the season, I did feel I was high on. 383 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: You know, Gino Smith. 384 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: What I was gonna say about Pete, Pete did kind 385 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: of give a little bit of like it wasn't the 386 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: same as when he started in Seattle. Let's let's be fair, 387 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: the same energy, eye the Pete, the Pete part of it, 388 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: Peap part of it. 389 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: I believed in the geno. I still believe in the 390 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: spy tech. 391 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Joe Shane, someone who I don't really 392 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: believe in, but he believes in himself. 393 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 6: I'm still the general manager of the team, and my 394 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 6: role has not changed. I'm still I'm still tasked with 395 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 6: leading the entire football operation, and we're going to work 396 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 6: in collaboration like most good teams do. And you know, 397 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a collaborator. Everybody's gonna have their role. 398 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 6: But there's constant communication between Dawn, Coach har Ball, myself 399 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 6: in terms of how we're going to build build a 400 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 6: football operation and then how we're going to execute you know, 401 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 6: the draft trades, free agency, contract signings, coaching staff, whatever 402 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 6: it may be. 403 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: Never a great sign. 404 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: About your tenure as the general manager when you have 405 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: to say at the podium, I'm still the general manager 406 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: and my responsibilities are the same. 407 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 3: I know I'm being a but well, one of the 408 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: plot lines of the off season that we have been 409 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: following very closely, that's sort of a subtle like inside Baseball, 410 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: is the general vibe of like that entire beat toward 411 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: Joe Shane and some of the headlines that that the 412 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: columns get, and just that the general angst and misery 413 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: in his direction by Tough. It's a it's a really 414 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: big beat and and really there's a lot of talent 415 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: on that beat, and there's a lot of really strong opinions, 416 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: and man are they all flowing towards to the point 417 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: where my good friend Charlotte Carroll rock cookies. 418 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: But home Man cookies. 419 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: They were good. 420 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: Just improve the vibes, Just improve the vibes a little bit, 421 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: you know. 422 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: They were delicious. So thank you to Charlotte, and I 423 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: feel bad for Shane. He was asked a lot about 424 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Dona Ponte, who is now higher than him on the 425 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: ORG chart, and that was the context with which he 426 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: made that answer that he was still the GM, but 427 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: it does it does make you wonder long term he's 428 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: in an uncomfortable position right now. Let's talk about a 429 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: guy who we talked to last year. I don't think 430 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a chance to this year. It's Jason 431 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: Light of the Bucks. He said when asked about a 432 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: potential extension for Baker, that Baker Mayfield. That is that 433 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: they haven't talked about that yet, but their feelings haven't 434 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: changed at all about Baker and that they believe in 435 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: him long term. Todd Bowles really echoed that, I think 436 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: they know Baker needs that lifting up. 437 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: Of course you're gonna say. 438 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: Well, he didn't get it so frequently through the first 439 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: part of his career. 440 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I can understand that. 441 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: It's in no win type of place, but I guess 442 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I would say, well, show me show me with that. 443 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: I would believe you if you engage in serious contract 444 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: extension talks with Baker, and they very well might based 445 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: on what Jason Light said today, But I guess I'll 446 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: see when when that happens, that that hasn't happened yet. 447 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: If you had the guest, do you think Baker Mayfield 448 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: gets an extension or not this year he's entering a contract. 449 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I think he does. 450 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: Yes, because the Bucks have a pattern where they will 451 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: continue to extend their own players, their guys, their core 452 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: guys that they like, until and they have patients, including 453 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: with the head coach, until it becomes overtly and extremely 454 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: clear that it is time to move on. 455 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: I've completely lost track. I've like skipped over some of 456 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: the things. I'm gonna have to circle. 457 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: Now you're all over. 458 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: I did want to mention Rob Brazinski is the new 459 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: it's not the general manager, but he's playing the role 460 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: of general manager for the Minnesota Vikings. And he said 461 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: at quarterback they are casting a wide net. And Kevin 462 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: O'Connell similar question about JJ McCarthy as a franchise quarterback. 463 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Very confusing answer where he says, we don't feel any 464 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: different about him as a franchise quarterback, but the timeline 465 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: on it is different. 466 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 7: Now. 467 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: Frankly, I don't know that is Gobbly goop to me. 468 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: I guess I would need to hear it. The casting 469 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: the wide net looking for quarterbacks is the key the 470 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: key phrase here. They're looking for someone to potentially replace 471 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. 472 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: When you're fishing, Yes, you're not casting a net for 473 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: fish inside your. 474 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: Own boat, right, that's good net leaving ship. 475 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: That's the type of concise but nailed it type of analysis. 476 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: We need to get through all forty seven points finally. 477 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: Before it keeps shrinking the number. 478 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm just making them up. 479 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: Not a lot of news on the rules beat this year, 480 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: so we'll circle back when there's harder news. They're talking 481 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: about adding replay officials to have a little more latitude 482 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: to throw a flag after seeing a replay, but it 483 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: might be very limited to plays like a punch. We'll see. 484 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: I almost don't want to get ahead of this story. 485 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: The main story to me was that the tush push 486 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: is no longer even being talked about, and for context there, 487 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni said they need to work on it because 488 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: they did not do as good a job doing it. 489 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: But it's kind of funny that now that the Eagles 490 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: are now no longer good at the tush push, that 491 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: the Packers are no longer bringing it up as a 492 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: potential rule. 493 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: Actually even worse now that the Buffalo Bills are running 494 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: it at the highest frequency of any team in the league. 495 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: Suddenly nobody's talking about it anymore. And Sean McDermott was 496 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: on the competition committee. He no longer is employed as 497 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: an NFL head coach. 498 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: So they said they being Rich McKay, who's in charge 499 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: of the rules Quinny that he thought the NFL is 500 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: in a good place in terms of rules. So I 501 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be a big year for 502 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: changing rules. Let's take a quick break and we will 503 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: be back with some more news. A lot of other 504 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: teams at the podium on Tuesday, from Indian nap back 505 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: on NFL Daily, the International Games, they just keep on 506 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: like dropping a different home team every week or so. 507 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: I just to spread the excitement out. 508 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: And how about the Detroit Lions are going to play 509 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: their first game Internashley. I couldn't believe this for more 510 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: than a decade, and I think they were await team 511 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: that last time in twenty fifteen. But they're gonna be 512 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: playing in Munich. I still want to get to Germany. 513 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: It's the question, I get a lot, Where are you gonna? 514 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: I would like to go anywhere. If Henry Hodgson is listening, 515 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: if Matt Schneider is listening, Jason English has left. We've 516 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: taken too long here. Get us Germany would be a 517 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: good one. 518 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: That would be fun because when you see the clips 519 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: of all the fans singing together and everything, you can't 520 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: not get goose bum some of the like really really 521 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: legendary clips from the modern international slate. 522 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: A great team, A great team. 523 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 524 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: And also, you know, Greg, you forget so easily. They 525 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: weren't playing internationally for a long time, because why would they. 526 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: They weren't a great team for a long time. 527 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: Now and then now and teams a lot of times 528 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to negotiate back and forth with the 529 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: league on. 530 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: Whether they are going to be Oh yeah, some tings 531 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: really want to go, some teams really want to go, 532 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 4: some teams don't. 533 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: And then with the Lions, maybe have a little leverage 534 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: here saying you didn't want us when we were. 535 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Bad, and now they're going over there, and that's good. 536 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I like seeing a team that I feel like is 537 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: certainly going to be in the mix, although you never know. 538 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: Adam Peters, of the Commanders their GM, spoke on Tuesday. 539 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: He would not comment on a potential Brandon Ayuk interest. 540 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I have to think about where I put Brandon Ayuk 541 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: on the top. 542 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: One oh one. 543 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: I want you to think about it for a second 544 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: while I tell the listeners that it is a priority 545 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: or the Commanders, according to Peters to extend Laramie Tuntl 546 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: and he has one year left on his contract. The 547 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: left tackle would maybe set the market that Trent Williams 548 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: could potentially fit underneath at this point because he's a 549 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: little older. But Brandon Ayuk, I just command eft it. 550 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a logical it's a logical 551 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: fit with the Commanders. 552 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: They need a wide receiver. 553 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: They are paying a lot of money, of course, but 554 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, to Terry McLaurin, but he might not cost 555 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: as much. How much do we believe in a Brandon 556 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: Ayuk if if he becomes a free agent, not officially. 557 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: Yet, kind of a wild card, right because coming off 558 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: the injury awesome, Yeah, well it could be awesome, but 559 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: coming off this a significant injury as well. And yeah, 560 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 3: it's interesting. It's I command efed it in your top 561 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: one on one. 562 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he's not there because he's not a 563 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: free I know. I was like saying, where would he go? Yeah, yeah, well, 564 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean I'm saying, you can help me do the 565 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: work of where do I where do I put him? 566 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: He's still a top twenty because there was a point 567 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: where the Pittsburgh Steelers were giving up a second round 568 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: pick for him and he was gonna be one of 569 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receivers in the league. He did 570 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: become one of the highest paid players in the league. 571 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers kept him. I think it's the 572 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: off the field. Is this guy too much to deal with? 573 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: That is gonna well his mark? 574 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. 575 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: You have Isaiah Likely at twenty and Onondale Robinson at 576 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: twenty one, and I would say wan Lee ahead of 577 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 3: those guys, both of them. 578 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: Is he ahead of Rashid Shaheed? 579 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Is he ahead of Kenneth Walker and Devin Lloyd those 580 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: types of guys getting into the top ten? 581 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well into the top ten. The other thing with 582 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed is the playmaking ability and special teams too. 583 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: So I would say somewhere that in the sweet spot 584 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: behind Rashid Shaheed and behind Mike Evans, who you also 585 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 3: have at sixteen here. 586 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the right ballpark. Yeah, kind of You've 587 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: you've passed your first test to be thanks. 588 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. You know how I love rankings, Zigliary. 589 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't about ranking this, it's about valuating 590 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: who's in our league. 591 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Elliott Wolf. 592 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: The Patriots GM would not comment on whether Stefan Diggs 593 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: would be a member of their twenty twenty six team. 594 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: He did comment more on them being in contact with 595 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: Diggs and authorities about everything going on with his assault accusations. 596 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: It almost said like the team has a handle on that, 597 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't commit to him being on the team 598 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: next year, So something to watch there. They also cut 599 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, who is coming off of torn acl Just 600 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: a little item there. Speaking of players coming back, Josh 601 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Jacobs is gonna be back for the Green Bay Packers. 602 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: Brian Guda Kuntz said that at the podium on Tuesday, 603 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: also said they want to get bigger on the offensive line, specifically, 604 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: what do you think about Jacob's returning to the. 605 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: Packers When he was on it was awesome And some 606 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: of the ways that they could just chip away in 607 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: salt away at teams was great. You know, I think 608 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: there's a lot of wood I could have should a 609 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: with the with the Packers, especially with some of the 610 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: injuries that they had. I like the idea of them 611 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: getting bigger along the offensive line. I wonder if that 612 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: if he's meaning that as almost like a tipping his hand, 613 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: maybe they're adjusting their scheme a little bit. 614 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: Well, they think they've had a body type that they've 615 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: liked for a while. 616 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Right, and they have been smaller, and I think they 617 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: started to tip it now in hindsight with the Aaron 618 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Banks move, who's a massive human now that did not 619 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: work out for them. I think that, well, he's gonna 620 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: still be on the roster. I assume. I didn't think 621 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: Jacobs was a lock to get back. He's had a 622 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: great career. 623 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: But I think he's kind of a glue guy though, 624 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: And if you're gonna need if the anngst at which 625 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: they ended last season, and all the questions about Matt 626 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: l Floor and all of that, like, you want your 627 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: glue guys around if you're really going to try to 628 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: really do it this time. 629 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: Fair and he when he's right, he's awesome. He's worn 630 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: down in some seasons, He's had a lot of workloads. 631 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're running back. You want to get out a 632 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: year early than year late. By the end of last 633 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: year was Emmanuel Wilson taking the big snaps because Jacobs 634 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: couldn't really finish those games. 635 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: But he will be back. 636 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: I should have mentioned, by the way, when I talked 637 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: Commanders a little earlier, they were also going to bring 638 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: back Andrew Wiley. Some of these free agent contracts are 639 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: starting to happen. He didn't even make my one on one, 640 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: but he would have been in like the top one sixty, 641 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: like a serviceable kind of swing tackle. Bradley Boseman, the 642 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: Chargers center retired, not that they weren't going to go 643 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: after Tyler Linderbaum anyways, but they are going to be 644 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: searching for interior alignment. They could cut Makai Beckton and 645 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: then the cuts. Yeah, they've kind of started. YEA, Kirk Cousins, 646 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: we knew he was going to get released, according to reporters, 647 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: but their new GM Ian Cunningham said on ninety two 648 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: to nine the game that Kirk Cousins will be released 649 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: ahead of free agency. 650 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the expected move. 651 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: It's nice to actually hear somebody say it out loud, 652 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: somebody with that authoritative power to make that cut actually 653 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: say it out loud. I am so CTE curious about 654 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: what happens next for Kirk and like where where he 655 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: is not crazy? 656 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: It's not crazy? 657 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City, I was thinking would be kind of great 658 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: for him and for Andy Reid. I actually, the more 659 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: I've thought about that, I was like, if your Kirk Cousins, 660 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be awesome to play for the Chiefs and 661 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: and then b Mahomes' backup and like be a part 662 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: of that. 663 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: I don't think Miami is crazy. No, I don't think 664 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: Arizona is crazy. Okay, In fact, with Michael Floor and Arizona, 665 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: now I think that we got to really watch that 666 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: one from Alik Willis and for Kirk Cousins, he is. 667 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: As we know of the tree, as as Patrick would say. 668 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: My underrating Cousins. This is an official Have they put it? 669 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: I sent my Oh, it is official, it's on there. 670 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: I sent an edit. They've been wanting Cousins to go 671 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: on to the top one to one. Now once you 672 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: get this is what him officially saying that does even 673 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: though it's not official, I was like, we could wait. 674 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: He's like, well, now that he gave a date to it, 675 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: we can put him on there. And my question to 676 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: smart people around the NFL and the NFL media sphere 677 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: today was Cousins of Rogers. 678 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: You know who would you rather have? 679 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: II Cousins. 680 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went with that too. 681 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was close enough that I put them 682 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: close in the rankings. Ultimately, Cousins is there for me 683 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: at fifty nine, just below his Falcons teammate Arnold Ebaketty 684 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: uh and only a handful of spots ahead of Rodgers. 685 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: I just thought, yeah, they occupy kind of the same space. 686 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: But he's got a little more versatility, and I think 687 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: he looked better last year, not just then he looked 688 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: the year before, but maybe then people realize. I think 689 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: it got better as it went, and by the end 690 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: of it, I was like, he's kind of an okay 691 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: bridge starter right now. Yeah, I don't think you'd want 692 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: him starting sixteen games. 693 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: Well, and you're also you're not going to pay him 694 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: a massive contract again, you know, I mean geez, I mean, but. 695 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: If he's a bridge starter, I've put your GM cap on. 696 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Don't you think he's making like twelve plus at least 697 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: a year. 698 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: And it's nothing in a quarterback in a quarterback world, 699 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think at least. 700 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: Twenty if like there are three teams in the mix 701 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: like I talked about, and then suddenly it's like, man, 702 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: we're playing twenty for Kirk Cuzzins. 703 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: All I'm just saying is just never underestimate Mike McCartney, 704 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 3: his agent, who has been the one to get him 705 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: these finesse contracts year after a year after a year 706 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: after year. 707 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame bag getter Kirkcusins. John Eric Sullivan is 708 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: the new Dolphins general manager. He said that they are 709 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: not actively shopping, Uh Devon a Chan who why would 710 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: they that part? I don't get or Jalen Wattle, But 711 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: the way that he answered it made it sound like 712 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: they would listen more than maybe I was expecting going 713 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: into this week to. 714 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: Waddle to either. 715 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: He just he gave. 716 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: He gave the spiel that you know we're gonna hear 717 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: from Spike Tek in a bit, and it's it's totally 718 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: a fair answer, like, yeah, they're gonna listen. That's what 719 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: he said about Max Krott, like we'll always listen. 720 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: Because it would be a response. 721 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: To everyone will always listen right like this between the 722 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: lines said nothing. 723 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: They could have shot it down like he he didn't 724 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: really say it with his chest that we you know, 725 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: we we want them as part of our team. 726 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: It was like, maybe it's kind of like maybe that's 727 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: how I took it. 728 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's just kind of a chill guy honestly. 729 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you. 730 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: Think about the accusations that I just heard from an 731 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: unnamed source. Won't won't reveal who it is that John 732 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 1: Eric Sullivan and Jeff Haffley resemble Beavis and butt Head. 733 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: What what is it? Because that tall hair, he's comedy legends. 734 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: Once you see it, you can't unsee it. 735 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: I like Halflee because I think there needs to be 736 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: more short, short guy representation. 737 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: There's more of them now in the league. You know, 738 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: there's Micha Lafloor and Halfley and Mintor's Mite is but 739 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: a wheelag Mick mcdan. 740 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: McDonald's not a not a really tall guy either, but 741 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: Halflee even more than the rest. And this is going 742 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: to guarantee this will never get back to him, but 743 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: now it will because I said that, and there are 744 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of Dolphins bloggers. He looks more like a 745 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: media member than any NFL head coach, not just now, 746 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: but in a minute, like when he's just walking through. 747 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: He looks like he should have a backpack and he's 748 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: going to the Titans like to ask to ask Salad. 749 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: You know about the quarterback situation, Cameron. 750 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: Earlier today when you said this, you did say this 751 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: sort of out loud to yourself. 752 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 753 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: I just appreciate the moments where I can hear you 754 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: testing material before you actually. 755 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 4: Use it on the show. 756 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: I had if it does come back to you, Greg, 757 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: You've had two chances now to say, you know what, 758 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: maybe I'm not. 759 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 4: Going to use that material on the show. 760 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: It's something I learned from Dave danishek he would go 761 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: around the newsroom and just try out stuff. To me, 762 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: it's it's not conscious as much. 763 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 4: I was just on his show. 764 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 3: I was on his show last week and we went 765 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 3: through an entire segment and it was it's always so fun. 766 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: We went through an entire segment before actually doing the segment, 767 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: basically just in conversations. 768 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: It was. It was epic. I was like, this is 769 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 4: what I always used to hear them talking about. 770 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: I love check everyone check out football America. Let's listen 771 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: to John Eric Sullivan talk about the team's potential interest. 772 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: This is the Miami Dolphins in Malik Willis as. 773 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 8: It pertains to the Miami Dolphins. Listen, I think I'd 774 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 8: be lying to you any team that is potentially in 775 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 8: a quarterback situahere, a needy quarterback situation, if they tell 776 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 8: you they're not talking about Malik Willis, that would be 777 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 8: a lie. 778 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 779 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: And frankly, him out. 780 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: There with it. 781 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: The kids don't know, Beavis and butt Head was that good. 782 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 4: We're getting a laugh from the people and up behind 783 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: the booth. So I think I nailed that. I could. 784 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: I'm glowed to crown myself and that one, right. 785 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's rough. It's been a long time. 786 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: I love like honestly, I think it's one of the 787 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: most underrated like comedies of the last like forty years. 788 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: It It is amazing. 789 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: The being him being out there with this actually makes 790 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: me think, I don't know if they're that in on 791 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: Milik Willis. Yeah, just him being like anyone of course 792 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: they're looking at Malik Willis, Like all the teams that 793 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: are interested are looking at Malik Willis, but him even 794 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: just yeah, you get into it like that. 795 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I kind of you. 796 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: Be a little more coy, you know, you flirt a 797 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, you just you say you dance 798 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 3: around the topic just a little bit more. 799 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: If you had listened to the Ian Rappaport show, you 800 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: would know he said he just doesn't think they have 801 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: the money. He doesn't think that they're swimming in the 802 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: deep waters that Milik Willis might might be this year. 803 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: I want to listen to the show, Greg, I want to. 804 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: I will get to it. 805 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: What did you do? 806 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: I think we're on good we're having we're on good pace, 807 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: which yeah, always the most I'm going to count afterwards. 808 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: I haven't written down what did you do last night? 809 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 5: Well? 810 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: I had a little dinner at sant Almos So I 811 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: did the thing, but I went back after dinner. It 812 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: was l I know you're out talking, making friends, making sources. 813 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: I think I walked walked by you yesterday. We haven't 814 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: even talked about that. In the hotel talking to a 815 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: general manager. I won't say who it is, of course, 816 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: but that was interesting just seeing you at work, kind 817 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: of in a spot right near the elevators where everyone's 818 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: going to be walking by. 819 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 4: Strategic that's a choice. 820 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: What did what was your night like on Monday night? 821 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? So we had our athletic summit, and there's a 822 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: mixer as well, So basically a lot of you know, 823 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: really hoping all my bosses like me okay, okay, making 824 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: making you know, having catching up with people who I 825 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 3: usually only see on slack, which is really wonderful. And 826 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 3: then you know, you kind of do the circuit. You 827 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: see people you need to see, You talk to the 828 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: people you know, you position, you position yourself where people 829 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: are going to be walking, and and you see people you. 830 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: Know, you're you're saving your bullets. 831 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: The rest of the week is going to be a 832 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: lot of smooth and you've been doing a lot of 833 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: it here, doing a great job making NFL daily look better. 834 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: The Kansas City chiefs. 835 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: Just you know, except what I felt that Not enough 836 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: people saw it though. But it was like a body 837 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: sit the floor situation. It wasn't like she kind of 838 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: caught herself with the hand. It was like it was 839 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: the it was the whole. It was it was a hole. 840 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: I fallen and I can't get up until you you 841 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: did get up. 842 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: But that's what it looked like. 843 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 3: Not with your help, by the way, just to reiterate that, 844 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: not with your help. 845 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: Now, just a couple other things. Brett Veach that the 846 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: chiefs general manager says they're prepared if Travis Kelce wants 847 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: to retire. Obviously they hope that he comes back. Sounding 848 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: like he's gonna come back. I thought it was interesting 849 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: both Monte Austin for the GM of the Cardinals, and 850 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Mike Lafleur, the new head coach, said they spoke with 851 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as we're getting closer and based on what 852 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: Ian said, I don't know if it's public posturing to 853 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: raise his trade value that's a possibility, or they're potentially 854 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: getting to a place depending on how other things go, 855 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: that Kyler is in a lock to leave. 856 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: What do you think, well, I think also if they 857 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: have a better understanding of potentially, for example, what Malik 858 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: Willis's market would be, or what a Kirk Cousins situation 859 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: would look like, or any any of these scenarios that 860 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: are not Kyler Murray, if you're looking at what they 861 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: could potentially cost or what resources you'd have to give up, 862 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 3: and you say, hey, we got a pretty good player 863 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: on our roster. New coaching staff like Ultra Ultra, you know, 864 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,479 Speaker 3: for all the criticism and rightfully so, that he takes 865 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett is like the ultimate lovable quarterback guy, like 866 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: he guys love being in the quarterbacks room when he 867 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 3: is in it, and for all of his flaws, especially 868 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: when he was a head coach, that's a big reason 869 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 3: why Mike Lafleur went after him is because of that 870 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: vibe and that dynamic and any if anyone's gonna kind 871 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: of heal smooth over a vibe, I would think that 872 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 3: would be it. 873 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: My gut tells me he's still gone, and this is 874 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: vacuum of information we have to talk. Plus he might 875 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: be traded, but I do believe that they're that it's 876 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: one potential scenario. My gut would say he's still gone, 877 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: but that that's one of the more fascinating ones because 878 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: he would be a really interesting piece to throw into 879 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: all these quarterback waters. Uh Rashid Walker is a guy 880 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: we talked about left tackle the Packers who's hoping that 881 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: Trent Williams doesn't become available because before he was the 882 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: best left tackle available and he's way lower on that list. 883 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: Like then he's suddenly waiting for Trent Williams. I found 884 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: it interesting just the teams that Jason lockanfora who used 885 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: to work with us at NFL Network throughout that are 886 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: expected to be the top suitors for him. The Patriots 887 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs left tackle Rashid Walker. HM spicy. Really 888 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: for both teams. It's interesting, but especially for the Patriots. 889 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 3: And I know exactly why you're you know, your eyebrows 890 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 3: raised on that one, because you would love to see 891 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 3: not love. Mike Well kind of softened his comment on 892 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: his own comments that he came out really strongly about 893 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: not moving Will Campbell, even though maybe if he goes 894 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: back and watches it takes a step away. Maybe in 895 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 3: that moment, like I said, maybe he was just protecting 896 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 3: his player as one should. Maybe he softens up and 897 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: maybe they try to go after a guy like that. 898 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: A couple other items, Joe Brady, the Bills coach, and 899 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: their general manager Brandon Bean, who's going to be coming 900 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: up later on the week, kind of revealed that Davis 901 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: Webb is going to be the new play caller for 902 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: the Broncos. If you don't remember, the Broncos elevated Davis Webb, 903 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be their offensive coordinator, and Sean Payton 904 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: then confirmed it later on the podium, literally as we're 905 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: talking and someone I'm not even sure who it is 906 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: put this into our document as we're taping. So I 907 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: appreciate that, and they were big on the Davis Web News. 908 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: I like that we're getting a few more participants. It 909 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: feels like in the combine this year doing all the 910 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: drills that are top players. I didn't get a chance 911 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: to talk about this with Ian, but Jeremiah Love the 912 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: running back of Notre Dame who's second on Daniel Jeremiah's board. 913 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: Rvel Reese, who's second or first on some people's board. 914 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: The linebacker pass rusher mkay Lemon, like Reese's teammate at linebacker, 915 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson, who's the QB two. Not a surprise he 916 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: would work out. But it does feel like, for what 917 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: it's worth when you're watching this year, a few more 918 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: of the first rounders are actually participating, which I'm just it's. 919 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 4: Like a sliding scale. 920 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 3: It's like a sliding scale, like there's a lot of 921 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 3: jams and coaches who are not here right now, I 922 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: think more than ever before, or even if coaches are here, 923 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: they're not doing podium sessions. 924 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 4: So now as that decreases. 925 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 3: Combine's like, oh man, we got to get some pop 926 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 3: in here, so you know, you got more guys who 927 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 3: are actually participating in the workouts. That's good for the 928 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: fans and obviously hopefully everyone stays safe. 929 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: Mentioned the Dolphins before they brought John Robinson, the former 930 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: Titans general manager back into the league to help out 931 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: that front office with John Eric Sullivan, and I did 932 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: want to mention they mentioned a ninety nine million dollar 933 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: capit for to a ninety nine million dollar capit does 934 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: not make sense for them this season. That would not 935 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: work for them. And so if and when they cut them, 936 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: which is the expectation, even though they're saying they're trying 937 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: to trade him, it will be a post June first cut. 938 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: They'll spread out the hit. But so that to a 939 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: contract's going to hurt them. 940 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 3: For which character is John Robinson? If we're talking lore here. 941 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk later. But I think Halfley's butt head, right? 942 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 4: No, John Robinson? Which Robinson? Oh, but you said it. 943 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 4: You can't walk that one back. 944 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: Now we could, we could edit it out of the show. 945 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, the Brillian's general manager, said about David Montgomery, 946 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: they've spoken to him. They're running back that the situation 947 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: is fluid, but you have to have guys who want 948 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: to be here, so that sounds open. And then he 949 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: talked about maybe how I read it not being as 950 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: aggressive and free agency because they want again their twenty 951 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: twenty three picks to be around. Sam Laporta, Jamiir Gibbs, 952 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: Jack Campbell, Brian Branch all are up for contracts sooner 953 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: than later, and so they might have to save the 954 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: money because they've been so good at drafting. That's a 955 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: good problem to have. It's the type of problem that 956 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: any general manager would love to have. We're gonna talk 957 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: to a couple of general managers after the break. 958 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: Here's what we're gonna do. 959 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break that we're gonna hear back 960 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: to back interviews from Raiders general manager John Spytech back 961 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: on the show and then fresh off an NFC North Championship, 962 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles. You hear those two back to back, and 963 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: then we'll say goodbye. On the other side, we are 964 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: back with now regular guests. General manager of the Las 965 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, John spy Tech, and look, John came over 966 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: before even they're waying. 967 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: Hello, what's up, Stephen, what's the name of your trainer? 968 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: Again and yes, last year at this time we talked 969 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: about Stephen my trainer, big Raiders fan. 970 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 2: Do you have it? Do you have any message for him? 971 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 9: After last hang with us, Stephen. We're going to get 972 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 9: this right of promise. 973 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 3: You know. 974 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 4: I met Steven. 975 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 7: Oh you did. 976 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the very first thing he said was, oh 977 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 3: my god, John spy Tech. I said, yeah, regular on 978 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 3: NFL Daily, one of our favorite people to talk to, 979 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 3: one of our favorite ball knowers to talk to. 980 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 4: Can we start with the quarterback questions? 981 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 7: Of course? 982 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 2: Well that was Stephen in the first place. 983 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 9: I was very I'm sure Stephen wants to know all 984 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 9: the answers, So let's. 985 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 7: Do it for Steve. 986 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 4: How over under? 987 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 3: How many Fernando Mendoza questions do you expect to get 988 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 3: this week? 989 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 4: Including this one? 990 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 7: Forty two and a half, We're already over You saw. 991 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 3: Him play every I think the entire football world saw 992 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 3: those really great photos of you guys sort of taking 993 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: in the scene in the National Championship game, and then 994 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 3: what a game to get to What did you think 995 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 3: of Fernando? What were some of the qualities that he 996 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 3: has that you guys have sort of gleaned from him 997 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 3: and scouted in him so far as Ian Rapifort walks 998 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 3: behind you. 999 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 7: Little bombs us. 1000 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I would say there was a 1001 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 9: lot of great players on that field in the National 1002 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 9: Championship game, and we were there to see all of them. 1003 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 9: And I just love watching guys compete. And to go 1004 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 9: to a national championship game when it's all on the 1005 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 9: line and you know, the pressures high for those young 1006 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 9: men is such a unique and cool experience. And to 1007 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 9: see how many of those guys rise and play their 1008 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,479 Speaker 9: best game in a game like that, or their best 1009 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 9: in the big moments when the moment was required. It 1010 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 9: was just a great football game. And you know, I 1011 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 9: was I was grateful to be there. I just I 1012 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 9: love football so much of it. I would go to 1013 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 9: that game and do it the same way if I 1014 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 9: didn't have this job. So it was it was just 1015 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 9: cool to be a part of a game like that. 1016 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 3: You were kind of when you played, you were kind 1017 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 3: of an underdog yourself, like you kind of scrapped your 1018 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 3: way into into whatever you could. 1019 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 4: And Kurt Signetti, I was a compliment. It is a compliment. 1020 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 9: That was a backcision is that I was more of 1021 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 9: a star, But I was that's huge actually true, actually. 1022 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 3: Right right, Well, you know, Kurt Signetti, nobody could call 1023 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 3: him an underdog at this point, but his story and 1024 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: like the way he gets that team playing, I think 1025 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 3: for a fan of the game and the sort of 1026 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 3: the poetry and magic of the game itself, what was 1027 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 3: it like watching all of that kind of come to life. 1028 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 3: And just like the way that those guys were connected 1029 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 3: and all of those you know, three stars, two stars 1030 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 3: walk on, all of those guys coming together the way 1031 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 3: that they did. 1032 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 9: I just think it's a great example of why this 1033 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 9: is the greatest team sport. Yeah, you know, in Indiana, 1034 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 9: they built the team. They built a great team, and 1035 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 9: you could see it the way they loved each other 1036 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 9: after the games, and as they got notoriety, they didn't change. 1037 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 9: There was a humility there, there was a respect, you know, 1038 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 9: that was there. I mean I think you saw it 1039 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 9: with Team USA just win the gold medal too. I 1040 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 9: Mean that's there. It's a team sport, it's not any 1041 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 9: one individual, and you know, the superpower and that Indiana 1042 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 9: program feels like they really know how to build the team. 1043 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 9: And I mean that's that's paramount, that's what we're all 1044 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 9: trying to do. 1045 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: What do you think Fernando's biggest strengths out that's that's 1046 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: another one. 1047 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 4: So for forty three, Yeah, put that one on check. 1048 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 1049 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 9: You know, I I just love watching him play. I mean, 1050 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 9: he's a he's obviously a great competitor. 1051 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 7: You can see that. The teammates are drawn to him. 1052 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 9: You know, he he's he's got a lot of the 1053 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 9: qualities you look for. 1054 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 7: But now we get a chance to meet him and 1055 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,760 Speaker 7: then see in person. 1056 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: Now you acquired Gena Smith last off season just because 1057 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm not giving up my presidency of the 1058 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: Gena Smith fan Club. 1059 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 2: Obviously, not his best season. 1060 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: Is there a scenario where where he's still there on 1061 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: the on the roster, of course, I. 1062 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 9: Mean he's we gave him, you know, a contract last year. 1063 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 9: He's under contract this year. It's a it's a it's 1064 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 9: a good number for a starting level quarterback in this league. 1065 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 9: And yeah, we'll learned long ago you can't have enough 1066 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 9: good quarterbacks on your team. So I mean we're gonna 1067 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 9: we're gonna talk about if we get through the combine 1068 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 9: and we get the whole coaching staff together, we're going 1069 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 9: to talk about the entire roster and try to figure. 1070 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 7: Out the best way forward. 1071 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 3: We got a chance, and this is a humble brag 1072 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 3: on on my part, but we got a chance to 1073 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 3: talk to Clint Kubiak after the Super Bowl and just 1074 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,240 Speaker 3: really refreshing. 1075 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 4: Uh. Just he has this. 1076 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 3: Sort of presence and and like a belief in his players, 1077 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 3: and we saw that with his work with with Sam 1078 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 3: Darnold and with that entire offense in general. What was 1079 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 3: it about Clint that you guys discussed through the interview 1080 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 3: process and through the vetting process and talking to him 1081 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: getting to know him. 1082 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 4: What are some your gm What are. 1083 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 3: Some traits that that stuck out to you about Clint 1084 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,479 Speaker 3: that you were that you were gravitated toward. 1085 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 9: You know, we when we were getting started, we put 1086 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 9: together a list of kind of the traits that we 1087 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 9: were looking for and a head coach. You know, none 1088 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 9: of them physical, but he just has a great, even 1089 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 9: keel way about him. You know, there's a high level 1090 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 9: of confidence that he presents, but with a wonderful amount 1091 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 9: of humility. You know, his his intelligences is through the roof. 1092 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 9: He's done this for a long time. 1093 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 7: You know. 1094 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 9: I think one of the cool things about him was 1095 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 9: the story that kind of broke about him working in 1096 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 9: the oil industry for a little bit. And you know, 1097 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 9: I think, like I think, like a lot of us, 1098 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 9: at some point we think like, maybe maybe we should 1099 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 9: do something else, you know, maybe we should and then 1100 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 9: you're drawn back to the game. And it's just that 1101 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 9: love of the game and the love of coaching that 1102 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 9: kind of shone through. And then it was undeniable as 1103 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 9: that team started to really roll. I mean, it just 1104 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 9: seemed to get better and better. And then just when 1105 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 9: you think, you know, I got to stop these these 1106 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 9: these players. You know, Jayson has is the offensive player 1107 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 9: of the year, and everye's trying to stop them, and 1108 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 9: nobody can stop them or whether they takes a real wonderful, 1109 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 9: wonderfully coordinated offense and a and a great offensive mind 1110 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 9: to do things like that, and it's not an easy 1111 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 9: thing to do when you know they're trying to stop 1112 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 9: that guy, and then they still get the ball to 1113 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 9: him and still in big moments, you know, that's awesome. 1114 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 9: So but really was about the man, the person that 1115 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 9: that drew us to him. 1116 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 3: You know, I'm kind of I kind of set you 1117 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 3: up here, and I'm sure you expected it. 1118 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that. 1119 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 3: But with the Indiana question, how it felt that connect connectivity, 1120 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 3: how those guys felt playing together, and then also with 1121 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 3: what Clint did and when what that Seattle see how 1122 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 3: close they were, how they just like were like radically 1123 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 3: positive to each other all the time, just like loved 1124 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 3: up each other and we're confident. Ernest Jones quotes, you 1125 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 3: know if you don't like my quarterback, and I mean, like, 1126 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 3: how do you get that in Las Vegas? I know 1127 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 3: you got some right young guys and some some culture 1128 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 3: guys that that you like, but but how do you 1129 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 3: get from what happened last year into that that energy, 1130 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 3: that like that feeling. You're building a roster of players obviously, 1131 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 3: but bringing that into the space and making it a 1132 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 3: part of what you are. 1133 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 4: How do you do that? 1134 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 9: It's it's it's a challenging part of it, you know. 1135 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 9: I mean there's so many things that go into a roster, 1136 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 9: and guys from all different backgrounds, demographics. You know, they 1137 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 9: they're older, they're younger, they're in different stages of their lives. 1138 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 9: But you have to find a way to connect them together. 1139 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 9: And you know, they obviously did a lot of really 1140 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 9: cool stuff in Seattle with Mike this year and Clint 1141 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 9: talked about a lot of that, and you know, at 1142 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 9: the end of the day, it's about accountability to the 1143 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 9: to the man lining up next to you. You've got 1144 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 9: to create that somehow, and you know, getting guys that 1145 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 9: love football and that will be there for each other, 1146 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 9: and there's like a selflessness and a humility to him. 1147 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 9: I think is is other wonderful traits to have. I mean, 1148 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 9: maybe some teams prioritize those more than others. I mean, 1149 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 9: to me, like it's it's a big thing. It's kind 1150 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 9: of how we built it in Tampa with the right 1151 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 9: kind of people, and we're just going to continue to 1152 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 9: stack the right kind of people in the entire organization. 1153 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 9: It's not just the players. It takes it takes literally 1154 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 9: the entire organization. And you know it's required every day 1155 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 9: to show up for your for the people next to you. 1156 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: I know, I would assume you see Max Crosby as 1157 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: as one of the people that has that right kind 1158 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. How are you managing the reports and the 1159 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: idea that you know he wasn't happy with how the 1160 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: way last season ended and you know, might want to 1161 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 1: be playing elsewhere this next season. 1162 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the reports will Kiss manages those for me, 1163 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 9: So I don't I don't know. I got too much 1164 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 9: to do to right now. I have a great relationship 1165 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 9: with Max. You know, we talk all the time. We've 1166 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 9: had hard conversations. I mean, it's no secret that he 1167 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 9: wasn't thrilled about it, but I I you can. I 1168 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 9: can sit in those things, you know, I can. I 1169 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 9: can have that that stuff. And you know, I love 1170 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 9: seeing Max. I love seeing him every day. He works 1171 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 9: his tail off right now. He's he's on the mend 1172 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 9: to get to get healthy and to play the game 1173 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 9: that he loves. 1174 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: And I have a question like, and this could be 1175 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: related to Max, because like in Theory Tradium, you know, 1176 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: you could get draft picks and you'd open up cap space, 1177 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: but you have a ton of cap space. Is there 1178 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: such a thing as too much cap space? You have 1179 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: like ninety million dollars in cap space? 1180 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:24,959 Speaker 2: That too much. 1181 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 7: I don't ever want to have that much again. 1182 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 9: I'd love to I'd love to love to have the 1183 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 9: challenge of Tom Delaneys struggling to piece it all together 1184 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 9: and not just like you know, and then the other 1185 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 9: part of it too, is like, you know, the whole 1186 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 9: world knows we got a bunch of cap space, so 1187 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 9: what are they going to ask for, you know, more money? 1188 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 7: So we've got to sort through all that stuff. 1189 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 9: But we've got a great opportunity in front of us 1190 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 9: this offseason to attack it with a with a new 1191 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 9: head coach, a young head coach, and build this roster 1192 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 9: the right way. And that's that's really all I'm focused on. 1193 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 9: So we have what we have. I mean, there's no 1194 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 9: denying it, and I'm not going to run from it 1195 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 9: with that. 1196 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I hear, I hear what you say. 1197 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 3: I know it could be tempting maybe to go out 1198 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 3: and it's been big in free agency those types of things. 1199 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 3: But the way that you guys built Tampa Bay, you 1200 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 3: drafted and developed guys who love football and we're going 1201 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 3: to be culture tone setters, and then you paid them 1202 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 3: your own guys. 1203 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 7: It's the best way to do it, right. 1204 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 4: So the patients that it takes. 1205 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 3: Last year, at this time, you know, everyone was fired 1206 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 3: up and talking about competing immediately. I think that was 1207 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 3: the expectation for all of us, I mean and yourself included. 1208 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 3: But now it's like there's going to be patients, more 1209 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 3: patients in a build like this, the way that you 1210 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 3: want to draft and develop and those things. So what 1211 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 3: is balancing like that amount of money? First of all, 1212 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 3: finding the right guys in potentially in free agency who 1213 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 3: are are are worth sort of helping lift the floor 1214 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 3: of the young guys who come in, and then balancing 1215 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 3: that with what you want to do in the draft. 1216 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a delicate balancing act, all of it. And 1217 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 9: I think what we're going to prioritize is guys that 1218 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,919 Speaker 9: can add to the culture right now, get us back 1219 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 9: on the right track, and then be there when we're 1220 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 9: when we're ready to roll, you know, Like I mean 1221 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 9: it's patience is not a word that I use a 1222 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 9: lot in this industry. So I mean there's not a 1223 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 9: lot of patients, so that's not but like building it 1224 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 9: the right way, having a process over results, and sticking 1225 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 9: to that even when it's hard, even when you get 1226 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 9: feel like there's urgency and you you get emotional about 1227 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 9: these deals and you don't want to lose the deal. 1228 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 9: I mean, we some of the best deals are the 1229 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 9: ones you walk away from. Just because you have the 1230 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 9: money doesn't mean you should do it. And so I 1231 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 9: it's all out in front of us right now, and 1232 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 9: we got to be mindful of that. 1233 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: So speaking of patients, and you've been very generous with 1234 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: your time, we'll let you go with this. I do 1235 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 1: feel like, like Steven and for the listeners that missed 1236 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 1: that interview my trainer, which is a little embarrassing big 1237 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: time raders, he was losing a little patience. I gotta 1238 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: admit that the Raiders midway through last season. Just before 1239 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 1: you go, do you have any message for him or 1240 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: for Raiders Nation, how you're feeling here after a year 1241 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: at the. 1242 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 9: Helm, Steven, you gotta get after this guy a little 1243 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 9: bit harder over one. 1244 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 7: And uh No, I just appreciate. 1245 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 9: I ap people like Stephen and Raider Nation and well, 1246 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 9: any trainer's supposed to get after you. 1247 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 7: They're not supposed to make. 1248 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 9: You're not supposed to like leave a workout if you're 1249 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 9: a good trainer and be like that was easy. 1250 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 7: You're supposed to. 1251 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean, not exactly get your body beautiful over here. 1252 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 2: I was feeling feeling very old. 1253 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 3: No. 1254 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 9: I would just say to Stephen in all ratidation, you know, 1255 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 9: we we appreciate all of them and the passion in 1256 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 9: this fan base is unmatched really anywhere I've ever been, 1257 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 9: and I've been some really cool places, and you know, 1258 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 9: we got a great opportunity in front of us, and 1259 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 9: just continue to support us and have a little bit 1260 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 9: of patience. Yes, but I'm not asking for a lot. 1261 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 9: That's not the way this thing works. 1262 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 2: I love that, and there really is no other fan 1263 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: base like right like that. 1264 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: I really think Cowboys are interesting in the Raiders, but 1265 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: to me, those are the two truly national teams. So 1266 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: John Spytec, he knows the job that he has in 1267 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: front of him. We appreciate the time. 1268 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 7: Thanks guys. Always great to see you. 1269 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: Thanks John, Hope, Hope We're still two of your favorites. 1270 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: By the way you said that. Coming in, I was 1271 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 1: like that was being a little generous to me because 1272 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: he just felt bad in front of me two of 1273 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: my favorites. 1274 00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 2: But thank you, Hope. He stayed that way. 1275 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: All good Here with Ryan Poles, general manager of the 1276 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears for the second time. Just want to point 1277 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: out after you came on for the first time, you go, 1278 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: you went ahead and won the NFC right a little success. 1279 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 3: Yes, what I want to point out is that you 1280 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 3: called your shot in that last interview that we did, 1281 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 3: because all we wanted to ask you about was the 1282 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 3: offensive line and how aggressive you wanted to be in 1283 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 3: rebuilding that foundational element of your offense and of your roster, 1284 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 3: and then you went out and did the dang thing 1285 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 3: and they were. 1286 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: One of the best units in football this year. 1287 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 3: So, first of all, how did it feel to call 1288 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 3: your shot such in such fashion with such flair? And 1289 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 3: second of all, I mean the growth of that unit 1290 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 3: and just sort of what it was like to put 1291 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,959 Speaker 3: them together in real time. 1292 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say, you know, so call the shot. 1293 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 10: I wish it always worked out that way. You know, 1294 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 10: you have plans and you're always waiting for some type 1295 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 10: of wrinkle to throw it off. 1296 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 11: That's just part of this league. You never feel comfortable. 1297 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 10: So it was seeing that come together and using different 1298 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 10: ways of doing it in terms of trades and also 1299 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 10: for agency, and I think really the best part for 1300 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 10: us is in for agency and trades. 1301 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 11: Some of the tough things. 1302 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 10: Are you don't know the player very well, you don't 1303 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 10: know their habits in terms of how they prepare and 1304 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 10: all that good stuff. So with that, there was touch 1305 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 10: points with all three of those interior players that made 1306 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,919 Speaker 10: us really comfortable and we were able to obviously see 1307 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 10: the results. 1308 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 11: Come through for us. 1309 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 10: And I got to give Dan Roschar and Kyle Devan 1310 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 10: are O line coaches a lot of credit for that. 1311 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 10: It's just because you plug in good players who oline 1312 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 10: doesn't mean that it'll come together. They got to have 1313 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 10: chemistry and they were able to create that in really 1314 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 10: one of the best rooms that we had in the facility. 1315 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: For the listener, Ryan cannot stop smiling every once in a. 1316 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 4: While talking about this group. 1317 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 3: You saw it in the past game of course, and 1318 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 3: Caleb is one of the best quarterbacks in the league 1319 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 3: and not taking negative plays anyway. To combine it with 1320 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 3: that line was really cool to watch. But the run 1321 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 3: game came to life in such a multiple way for 1322 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 3: you guys, not just because of what those linemen could 1323 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 3: do and we're capable of doing it as a unit, 1324 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 3: but also your backs. And you know, we love Kyle Manangai. 1325 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 3: We call him Kyle Manong Dude on this show. He's 1326 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 3: a dude, and we loved watching that come to life 1327 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 3: all season. And so behind that line, what was that 1328 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 3: like watching Ben put that together? 1329 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 11: It was amazing. 1330 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 10: Again, when you pair Dan Roschar and Ben Johnson together 1331 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 10: and put a run game together, You're going to get 1332 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 10: a tactical advantage in terms of getting the best you know, 1333 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 10: opportunities to to get yards before being touched. Really so 1334 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 10: then when you add on the talent that we had 1335 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 10: up front, some really good things can happen. 1336 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 11: And anytime that you have balance. 1337 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 10: Your protection in the past, game is going to be better, 1338 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 10: Your quarterbacks confidence is going to be better. So it 1339 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 10: was really cool seeing that all come together there. Eric 1340 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 10: Bande me who's now in Kansas City as though see 1341 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 10: did a fantastic job with our backs, Kyle's development, and 1342 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 10: also seeing Swifty put together a really strong year maybe 1343 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 10: the best year of his career was was awesome. So 1344 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 10: we look forward to picking up where we left off again, 1345 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 10: there's always challenges for this league. You can't just take 1346 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 10: last year and apply it to this year. You got 1347 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 10: to continue to work on it and adjusts as things 1348 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 10: pop up. 1349 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 11: So looking forward to But yeah, good group. 1350 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned DeAndre Swift having such a great year. 1351 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: I was surprised to see him on some of those 1352 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: articles that, like, you know, potential cap cuts. You guys 1353 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: do have a tricky situation where you know, you got 1354 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: to cut some salary cap to see a guy you 1355 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: feel good about for the twenty twenty six season on 1356 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: a team. 1357 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, I do feel good about it. 1358 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 10: You know, we'll get through this next two weeks, see 1359 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 10: what different opportunities kind of pop up. 1360 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 11: It's always difficult. 1361 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 10: There's a lot of unknowns, a lot of different sequences 1362 01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 10: that we've put together. How they come together is is 1363 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 10: is unknown right now. But I feel good about swifteen. 1364 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Where's that one thing you alluded to it? 1365 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: You had the Joe Toney trade, and you've kind of 1366 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: pulled a big surprise almost every one of your off seasons. 1367 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: You started out with the Kyle Mack trade, you know, 1368 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: leaving you. You know DJ Moore you got as part 1369 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: of that trade. I feel like you and and a 1370 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: few other gems have been part of a trend. There 1371 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: just have been more veteran trades in the NFL. I 1372 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: guess I'm just curious if you go through your process 1373 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: of as a GM, how you use trades as part 1374 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: of kind of the the arsenal. 1375 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, do you have another little fun one coming up? 1376 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1377 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 11: Question, we'll see, we'll see. 1378 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 10: Usually they start popping up this week I'll say this 1379 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 10: kind of cool story. I've gotten a known I'm trying 1380 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 10: to I'm trying to blank and his name. There's an 1381 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 10: author who wrote Range and new books coming out inside 1382 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 10: the Boxes about constraints and what we can learn from constraints. 1383 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 10: And it's interesting because when I think back to our 1384 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 10: first year, not having much money, not having many picks, 1385 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 10: you learn how to, you know, live inside this box 1386 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 10: and how can we make the most out of our situation. 1387 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 10: And we've been able to take that and apply it 1388 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 10: along the way. And what that's taught us is to 1389 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 10: just really keep an open mind on how to solve 1390 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 10: some of these solutions. There's the basic way of just 1391 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 10: doing the draft and straight up for agency, but how 1392 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 10: can we take advantage of some trade opportunities to bring 1393 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 10: a talented player onto our roster by really starting fresh 1394 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 10: and rebuilding from year one. We needed to get the 1395 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 10: talent level higher and higher, knowing that it takes a 1396 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 10: little bit of time to get draft picks developed along 1397 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 10: the way, so how can we expedite it just enough 1398 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 10: but also bring in the right type of people. So 1399 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 10: I think think that experience from the very beginning has 1400 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 10: helped us take this kind of unique approach of using 1401 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 10: trade cregency in and in the draft to help build 1402 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 10: our team. So we're always listening, we're always gonna analyze 1403 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 10: everything that we hear in terms of how to improve 1404 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 10: our team, and that's been able to create some cool 1405 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 10: situations over the. 1406 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 11: Last few years. 1407 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about football is how people 1408 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 3: make decisions. And I think we always see on the 1409 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 3: field the product of like a play caller sequencing plays together, 1410 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 3: and how combinations and permutations change over time and all 1411 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 3: of the different avenues they can take. 1412 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 4: You mentioned something that sort of sparked for. 1413 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 3: Me when you were talking about DeAndre Swift, which is 1414 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 3: we've we've sort of gamed out some of the scenarios 1415 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 3: and some of the different combinations. What I think a 1416 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 3: lot of people don't know about your job is you 1417 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 3: have to sequence out possibilities too, and you have to 1418 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 3: you have to run a lot of game theory on 1419 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 3: all of it. I'm curious if you could peel back 1420 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 3: not with this, maybe not with this specific situation, but 1421 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean if you want, if you want to, you can, 1422 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 3: But like how you do that and what that process 1423 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 3: actually is and looks like for the listeners, who might 1424 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 3: not be as. 1425 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 4: Familiar with it. 1426 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll start with a calendar. 1427 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 10: Really, once we finished the season, we have our early 1428 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 10: draft mating, so we bring all of our scouts in 1429 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 10: and we go through the board. We kind of call 1430 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 10: it pinning the board up, so it's not set yet. 1431 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 10: There's a lot of information to learn this week and 1432 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 10: through you know, the spring, but it gives us an 1433 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 10: idea where strengths and weaknesses are. And then for agency 1434 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 10: we do the same thing and our pro staff does 1435 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 10: an amazing job with that. What we also do is 1436 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 10: we add to our fre agency board, we add the 1437 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 10: cap casualties. We usually overload that more than what's actually 1438 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 10: gonna happen, but we never want to be caught by surprise. 1439 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 10: So when we mesh those boards together, it gives us 1440 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 10: some clarity of where strengths and weaknesses are, and it 1441 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 10: allows us to understand. 1442 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 11: Really, all right, where do we have to be aggressive. 1443 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 10: Maybe we need to go to a trade trade route 1444 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 10: to get this done because I don't know if the 1445 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,479 Speaker 10: volume is there to feel comfortable with filling that need. 1446 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 11: So we go through that and then obviously there's a financial. 1447 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 10: Part of it, so we have one of the best 1448 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 10: cap guys in the league, Matt Feinstein. So I myself 1449 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 10: and now Jeff King will go through and list everything 1450 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 10: with Ben, and then I'll bring in Matt and say, okay, 1451 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 10: we'll walk us through what's the short term and long 1452 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 10: term effect. 1453 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 11: Of this financial Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1454 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 10: So there's a lot of tough conversations there where you know, 1455 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 10: I'm like, come on, man, you can find more money somewhere, 1456 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 10: and he does. He does a great job, but he 1457 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 10: also knows there's some core things. I don't want to 1458 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 10: hurt herself down the road. I want to stay flexible. Also, 1459 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 10: you know, we got a quarterback that's trending in the 1460 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 10: right direction. I want to make sure that there's a 1461 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 10: planeted place for whenever we need to extend him if 1462 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 10: everything continues to stay on. 1463 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 11: The same path. 1464 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 10: So how does all those decisions today fit that down 1465 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 10: the road. 1466 01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 11: So it's complicated. 1467 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 10: It's like the most fun part of this job is 1468 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 10: a lot of putting out fires. But that that's the 1469 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 10: part that you know, I'll sit there on a board 1470 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 10: and we're writing. 1471 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big week for that too, and especially 1472 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 1: this offseason. Yeah, you have so many players in your 1473 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: secondary up at the same time, and you might be 1474 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: looking for left tackle because you have an injury there 1475 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: from your draftic. 1476 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of game. 1477 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: You know, a game is being theoried out there, specifically 1478 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: with the secondary. You know, Jaquon Brisker was one of 1479 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: your first draft picks and Kevin bayerd Is is such 1480 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: an important part of your team in Nashon. 1481 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 2: Wright had such a breakout season last year. 1482 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Where where are you with with those three guys specifically 1483 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 1: and your confidence of what you're going to be able 1484 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 1: to do to keep them. 1485 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, So I think part of this week and early 1486 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 10: next week is understanding what those markets are. Also, you know, 1487 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 10: we got to clear some space in terms of our 1488 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 10: cap and make sure that we're healthy there, and really 1489 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 10: it's then can we make that fit? And it takes 1490 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 10: both sides, you know, obviously agreeing that it works for 1491 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 10: each other. So we'll set up guardrails for each one 1492 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 10: of those scenarios, knowing that once you prioritize and the 1493 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 10: first domino goes, that may take three off the board 1494 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 10: because of financial constraints. So once we get through this week, 1495 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 10: we'll go back to the room and the drawing board 1496 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 10: and lay that out and then progress in this you know, 1497 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 10: we'll prioritize everything, progress through that list, and and and 1498 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 10: put it all together. 1499 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 1: Well, Ryan Pauls not only called a shot on the 1500 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 1: show last year. When you first got the job, you said, 1501 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: it's going to be our goal to take the North, 1502 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: the NFC North, and never give it back. But they 1503 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: they have taken the North. It is a very difficult division. 1504 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 1: So hopefully you know, you know next year when we 1505 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: talk to you, you still will not giving it back. 1506 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 3: We have any predictions, you know, do you want to 1507 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 3: call another do you want to call another shot this year? 1508 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 10: I just you know, our goal is to take the 1509 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 10: next step, and that's to get to the Championship game 1510 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 10: and eventually the Super Bowl. So I like to see 1511 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 10: our offense take the next step, which I know with 1512 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 10: with Ben and and Caleb and the work they're putting 1513 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 10: into it, that that that that will happen. Obviously, the 1514 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 10: again interestings that we can't control will always throw a 1515 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 10: little bit of a wrinkle in it. But then on 1516 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 10: top of that our defense taking the next step, and 1517 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 10: I think if all that comes together, we should be 1518 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 10: in a in a in a situation where we're going 1519 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 10: to continue to improve and they keep moving up. 1520 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles GM of the Bears, appreciate you awesome, thank you. 1521 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 2: Those were delightful. 1522 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,719 Speaker 1: I you can tell like the vibe from Poles coming 1523 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 1: off like a championship season. You know, it's always interesting 1524 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: this time of year, like there's there's the guys who 1525 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: are riding high spy Tech's coming off a bad season, 1526 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't you wouldn't have known it, which which 1527 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate. But sticking with Poles, uh, for us, I 1528 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 1: did just want to update an item that he talked 1529 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 1: about on the podium. 1530 01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to talk about that. 1531 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,720 Speaker 1: All their teams have expressed interest in Tyson Beigent and 1532 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: he believes there will be a trade market. He said 1533 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: that for Tyson Beagent. So I don't know if that's 1534 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,759 Speaker 1: them trying to drum up a market. 1535 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 4: But do you know what though, because there was it. 1536 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: Reminds me of a very specific example. Go ahead that poll. 1537 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 3: That Polls was the one saying it is interesting to 1538 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 3: me because like a week ago, there was a source 1539 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 3: report that the Cardinals were interested in Tyson beagent with 1540 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 3: that which at the time felt like an agent sort 1541 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 3: of putting stuff out there like that. But sometimes when 1542 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 3: you start to connect leaks with other leaks, it might 1543 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 3: not be anything as it pertains to Tyson Beagent specifically, 1544 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 3: but it could tell you a lot about both Arizona 1545 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 3: and Chicago and what they are either hoping or attempting 1546 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 3: to do right now. 1547 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: I think it says a lot now that I have 1548 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: the full picture in him saying that about Chicago, and 1549 01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: it reminds me on a lesser level, but similar to 1550 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: the Joe Milton Drake may situation, I actually think that 1551 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 1: they gave taste in beage a great contract, But it 1552 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,799 Speaker 1: just might be a situation where you have a backup 1553 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: that's the same age that's really competitive, that wants to play. 1554 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: I'm not reporting anything, but just that you might see 1555 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: that the quarterback room is constructed better with like, hey, 1556 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 1: maybe we'd like to see Caleb with a different true 1557 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 1: backup and and Tyson could get a chance elsewhere. Maybe 1558 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,440 Speaker 1: this isn't our forever pairing with him as a backup, because. 1559 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,759 Speaker 4: You got it once you get a taste his success. 1560 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 3: And he did, and Tyson Bagent did, and he and 1561 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,679 Speaker 3: he got the contract, and he heard the fan base 1562 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 3: and how for him they were and he got a 1563 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 3: taste of it, and so he's going to. 1564 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 4: Want to be a vibe thing. 1565 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: I mean you heard with New England that yeah, like 1566 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: it was maybe a vibes thing that Joe Milton wasn't 1567 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 1: really thrilled to be in that position, and maybe Drake 1568 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: May wasn't thrilled to have a backup. That's his age, 1569 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: that's that's wanting to play. Really, Ryan Poles and John 1570 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: spy Tech joining the show. The last thing with spy Tech, 1571 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: just I love the pop that he's he's still given Steven. 1572 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 3: That was the first thing he said when he saw you. Yes, 1573 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 3: he also is he included you. 1574 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, it was great that he's making him a 1575 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: part of the show. And I like the message to 1576 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 1: Raider Nation. And he was asked about Crosby in other 1577 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: places than us, so I did. 1578 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 2: Want to provide that context. 1579 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,680 Speaker 1: He kept saying he expects Crosby to be back, but 1580 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: we'll always listen. So I think that's one where just 1581 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure they would like Baxcrosby to 1582 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 1: be back, but I think that's an I don't know, 1583 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: and we'll see. 1584 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it seems to be, uh, you're dealing with 1585 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,640 Speaker 3: a personality as well who seems to be in a 1586 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 3: sort of trying to stabilize his emotions toward the entire 1587 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 3: topic as well. And so you have to surf that 1588 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 3: wave too when you come to it. 1589 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 1: Love surfing the wave. Just you just got to stay 1590 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 1: on your feet. You know, you don't want to you 1591 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: don't want to crash. That's going to be it from 1592 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: our show here in the Indianapolis can Mention Center. Not 1593 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: as many coaches by a long shot speaking on Wednesday, 1594 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 1: but we have some great interviews. We're gonna have a 1595 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 1: lot of news. This is quietly the first night where 1596 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: really every you know, media member has made it here 1597 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: from the snow, and everyone's in position. 1598 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 2: The entire league is now here. 1599 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,759 Speaker 1: This is kind of the first night where the people 1600 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 1: like Jordan, who have all these contexts, they start talking, 1601 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: and people start talking to each other, and the insiders 1602 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 1: like Ian they start talking, and then we start getting 1603 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,640 Speaker 1: some news dropping tomorrow. So look for that, look for 1604 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 1: some more press conference updates, and then look for our 1605 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: interviews with some decision makers, including Bill's general manager Brandon 1606 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Bean and Steelers general manager Omar Con. 1607 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 2: That is it. 1608 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:52,439 Speaker 1: Let's go Let's be safe out there tonight in Indianapolis 1609 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 1: for Jordan and John Spiek and Ryan Foles. 1610 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 2: See you next time.