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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Emily ABOUDI here coming to you, not from

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Speaker 1: the AG studio. I'm actually sitting in what may be

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Speaker 1: I also think that this has something to do with

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Speaker 1: I digress. Like I said, I'm out in Utah. I'm

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Speaker 1: I am in and out of Brooklyn like crazy. I

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Speaker 1: And so I heard myself say that to my dad

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Speaker 1: want to share with me, throw it on Instagram, tag

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Speaker 1: me over at Hurdle podcast and at thee A body

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Speaker 1: and now a listener question.

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Speaker 3: Hi Emily, my name is Natalie, longtime Hurdle listener, and

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Speaker 3: my question for you is about alcohol. So I'm a

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Speaker 3: So how do you approach alcohol and also working towards

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Speaker 1: Thanks oh to be back graduating college, Natalie.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being a hurdler, and congrats on having a

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I should have an expert

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Speaker 1: leave me a voice message. I would love to answer

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Speaker 1: your question on an upcoming episode of Five Minute Friday.

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Speaker 2: That's it for now.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're following along with Hurdle Over at Hurdle podcast,

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Speaker 1: I am over at Emily a Body, Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time