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Speaker 1: So kayleie, Yeah, we have a heavyweight short for the

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Speaker 2: I think you should just do like a heavyweight short,

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Speaker 2: you say all the things you love about heavyweight, but

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Speaker 2: just in a shorter, more digestible format for this fast

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Speaker 1: Guess what what you just introduced our heavyweight short.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Today's heavyweight short Cody. Right after the break, Cody

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Speaker 1: describes his mom, Paula as Cudley. Some of his earliest

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Speaker 3: Like her laying on the couch and me being small

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Speaker 1: Paula provided Cody with comfort even when she wasn't around.

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Speaker 3: My mom was the glue. It's like when she died,

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Speaker 1: Shortly after the day of the hug, Coach Walling took

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Speaker 3: Like there's a you know, there's always a few things

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Speaker 1: After doing some digging, I found out that coach Walling

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Speaker 3: Would it be okay if we rescheduled for that. I

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Speaker 1: Cody's a truck driver and a shift begins at two

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Speaker 3: No, im not like I do, I really do, but no,

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Speaker 3: that's amazing, Like I'm that give me just one second.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, of course, of course, take what you need?

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Speaker 3: It's uh, it's John. Right before I don't.

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Speaker 1: Hi John, This is Jonathan Goldstein.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Hello, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'd let John know I'd be phoning with a student

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Speaker 4: My dad lived in Marshalltown. His claim to fame is

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Speaker 1: With the pleasantries and the my dad was a longer

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Speaker 1: I asked John if he remembers Cody.

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Speaker 3: I do, I do. So. Do you remember that that

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Speaker 1: When two people overlap in time and space, there's never

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Speaker 3: I do remember that, and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I remember that very, very vividly what I had lost

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Speaker 1: Where were you would you describe yourself as a as

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Speaker 1: For Coach Walling, not only had the hug with Cody

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Speaker 3: For me to hug guys, and and you.

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Speaker 4: Know, to show that as a raw emotion. And so Cody,

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Speaker 1: John says that just like Cody, he didn't have a

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Speaker 3: He was a World War two and Korea veteran.

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Speaker 4: Who I mean, I saw him cry when my mama died,

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Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, your your point, John, about how after

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Speaker 3: It did for me too. I think just seeing a

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Speaker 4: And I know, and honestly it sounds kind of silly

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Speaker 4: I'm not ashamed to say I'm a hugger and I

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Speaker 4: Well, I can't thank you enough for for you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm the most blessed guy you're ever going to get

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Speaker 4: on the phone. I feel so very blessed that you

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Speaker 4: took the time and effort to try to find me.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, and I love you.

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Speaker 3: I love you too, Jean.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know there's only one thing left to do.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't I don't know, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Virtual hugs, virtual.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you have a good you have a good night.

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Speaker 1: You too, take it easy, and I guess I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you too, man.

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Speaker 5: Thanks John, Bye, bye bye.

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Speaker 1: This Heavyweight short was produced by senior producer Khalila Holt

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Speaker 1: Hello and Me Jonathan Goldstein, along with Moheeney Mictgawker. Our

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Speaker 1: supervising producer is Stevie Lane. Production help from Damiano Marquetti.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to Emily Condon, Aaron Randall, and Hannah Chan.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Lord mixed the episode with original music by Christine Fellows,

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Speaker 1: John K. Sampson, Blue Dot Sessions, and Bobby Lord. Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Heavyweight or email us at Heavyweight

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Speaker 1: at Gimletmedia dot com. We'll be back with a new

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Speaker 1: episode in two weeks.