Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask bring Big Big Facts visit
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Speaker 2: From the Trap Music Museum, Big Bank DJ, Scream Baby J.
Speaker 3: We had team Big Facts and today we are welcome you,
Speaker 3: the one, the only, Lou Williams, the big.
Speaker 4: What's uthing? My brother? What's something? My brother? How you
Speaker 4: feeling well? We appreciate you pulling up on us.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you'll having me. I'm chilling out, how you brother?
Speaker 3: Everything? Swell man, listen. The people want to know where
Speaker 3: has Lou Williams been. We saw a tweet a little
Speaker 3: while ago that says, damn man, I think you put
Speaker 3: damn I miss hooping. Yeah, so you haven't been on
Speaker 3: the court. Have you still been doing? Did you do
Speaker 3: the party this year or last? Okay, it's coming up.
Speaker 3: The party is still so will is coming back?
Speaker 5: I think so.
Speaker 2: I just got to figure out a way to rebrand it. Okay,
Speaker 2: it'll just be too many people in. It ain't supposed
Speaker 2: to be, you know what I'm saying. I just got
Speaker 2: to clean it up.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 6: But that's it. That shit was epic.
Speaker 5: It's a good time definitely.
Speaker 2: So you're not retired if the if the right people call,
Speaker 2: I'm willing to do something. It just got to the
Speaker 2: point where I was seventeen years in, my kids were
Speaker 2: starting to get a little older, and my daughter had
Speaker 2: picked up the basketball. My oldest daughter, Jada, she picked
Speaker 2: up the ball and her first year AAU she played
Speaker 2: and I literally seen him play one game and it
Speaker 2: was the last game of the season, and that ship
Speaker 2: it was fucking with you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It was doing something to me.
Speaker 2: So I just got to a point in my life,
Speaker 2: whether it was about my career or being there and
Speaker 2: further along with my kids and being there for the moments,
Speaker 2: and especially with her being in basketball and then being
Speaker 2: at such an impressionable age, just to be there for him.
Speaker 2: So I ain't all the way retired, but that was
Speaker 2: just more important to me at this point in my life.
Speaker 2: So more so living life right for Chilling, I'm in
Speaker 2: the underground Chill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So he's still been making music too,
Speaker 3: for sure. For sure been making music. But for my
Speaker 3: exec hat all been working with a keem I League
Speaker 3: got him signed to the sign to the label one
Speaker 3: As United, and we just put one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: our effort into him right now, just trying to get
Speaker 3: him off the ground and making sure he get what
Speaker 3: he needed out of us.
Speaker 5: You know, that time and attention that's needed.
Speaker 2: You know, with this game right now, so much, so
Speaker 2: much should come out, so much music come out.
Speaker 5: You know, it's hard to stick.
Speaker 2: So we're just taking our time, putting a game, playing
Speaker 2: together and just hitting, getting base hits, base hits, base hits,
Speaker 2: and then waiting for that big one, you know, waiting
Speaker 2: for that big hit to get us to another play.
Speaker 5: So we've been working.
Speaker 3: What you think you got more love for basketball or
Speaker 3: music or is it kind of like?
Speaker 2: I think they go hand in hand with me. I
Speaker 2: think music was my first love though. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: growing up and just listening to music in the house,
Speaker 2: being introduced to so much different music, and I just
Speaker 2: fell in love with it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: As far as basketball, I was an athlete, you know,
Speaker 2: I tried football, basketball, baseball, did everything until I realized
Speaker 2: basketball was the one, you know, but music was always
Speaker 2: that one consistent for me.
Speaker 5: So but it's still it's still I think they go
Speaker 5: hand in hand. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Do you think, like, do you think that people just
Speaker 3: I think you kind of spoke on this before, But
Speaker 3: do you think people just automatically off top with ball
Speaker 3: players and music just kind of automatic.
Speaker 5: They're not trying to hear it at all.
Speaker 2: I get it, though, You know, you get introduced to
Speaker 2: a to a certain thing and you like to enjoy
Speaker 2: it in the way that it got packaged to you
Speaker 2: in the first place, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: when you try to do something else, it's like, no, we.
Speaker 5: Don't want that. We want to show them you can
Speaker 5: do it exactly.
Speaker 2: But for an athlete to try to wrap it's that
Speaker 2: ship is almost impossible.
Speaker 5: You know, you look at it. It's been.
Speaker 2: It's been a couple of dudes have some success, but
Speaker 2: it's literally a handful, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Like shot Shock Shanty using a long time ago.
Speaker 4: He was, Yeah he was.
Speaker 5: He got off just playing, but he the worst soul
Speaker 5: to niggas. You gotta add it up.
Speaker 7: I feel like I don't feel like he was trying
Speaker 7: to be no rapper.
Speaker 5: Trying to do everything everything.
Speaker 4: He was just he was an amusing video of the rapper,
Speaker 4: but he you know.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying, he was trying to act the rapper everything.
Speaker 5: Every commer he was trying to do everything, but he
Speaker 5: hit exactly.
Speaker 8: He is just a woman. The niggas just a winner.
Speaker 8: Whatever he do, the niggas winning somebody chosen like that.
Speaker 8: He just winners and everything.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but it ain't a lot of them because just
Speaker 9: like what he was saying, just like what what Lou
Speaker 9: was saying about, basically a familiar thing being repackaged. That's
Speaker 9: kind of like fucking Burger King trying to sell fried chicken.
Speaker 5: Like, yes, it's not the funny thing.
Speaker 2: Yes they say Burger Kids got the best chicken sandwich,
Speaker 2: But niggas ain't trying to hear that ship.
Speaker 5: Do that.
Speaker 3: I know what I know exactly guy exactly. So so
Speaker 3: let's just jump to that. Everybody who sat down. We
Speaker 3: had shampet here, we had a big baby here. Who
Speaker 3: is the basketball rapper go and it don't even have
Speaker 3: to be somebody that actually put music out.
Speaker 5: Shock So to me, that's what I said.
Speaker 2: You can't like who else they said, and he did.
Speaker 2: He did that at a time where you had to
Speaker 2: go buy that ship.
Speaker 4: Music, stack Fire, Steve Jackson and dumb music.
Speaker 8: I'm saying who they said was the goat who in
Speaker 8: the ranking for being the next Kobe did some music
Speaker 8: to it ain't never come out.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, you can give it to you
Speaker 2: can give it to Dame Lillard. But Dame Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he put a lot of time and energy and effort
Speaker 2: into people respecting him as a as an.
Speaker 6: Artist, as a lyricist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how he spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: on that. So give him credit for that, to sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: Your sense with black Man, what you think the most,
Speaker 8: Like the biggest struggle is like just even having success,
Speaker 8: just you know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, maintaining it, maintaining it and finding that balance of
Speaker 2: saying no to people. I think that's what I That's
Speaker 2: one of my personal struggles.
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to say no to folks.
Speaker 2: But I done gave so much, right, you know, I'm.
Speaker 5: Lucky for me. I was able to stay in the
Speaker 5: business so long.
Speaker 2: I came in as a kid, I got drafted i
Speaker 2: was seventeen, got out of it when I was thirty six.
Speaker 2: So these last few years I've been able to be
Speaker 2: a grown man. Look folks in their eyes say hell no, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So my struggle just been having that balance of taking
Speaker 2: care of your people but not getting overextended and just
Speaker 2: maintaining at a high level.
Speaker 9: So let me ask you this with and my question is,
Speaker 9: because you're originally from Memphis, do you think that they
Speaker 9: should do a hustling flow Part two?
Speaker 5: Who do it? Some stuff you just don't like? You
Speaker 5: just don't mess with that? Who will do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Because every time I look at I still ain't I
Speaker 2: ain't figured out whether it's a comedy or not.
Speaker 5: But I laughed the whole movie. I don't think it's
Speaker 5: meant to be funny.
Speaker 3: It's funny, but it's also to some people real ship
Speaker 3: for what they go through.
Speaker 5: For sure.
Speaker 2: It's like it's really like a like a like a
Speaker 2: mimic version of how I grew up for real, Like
Speaker 2: I see all the characters I grew up around people
Speaker 2: like that, but like a comedic version of them.
Speaker 5: Though, you know what I'm saying, real, but DJ, who
Speaker 5: can do that?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: We might just need to lead out on charge.
Speaker 4: Classic.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You you are probably, in my opinion, the best quote
Speaker 3: unquote six man. Ever, you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 3: play the sport?
Speaker 4: What what did you?
Speaker 3: What made you decide to go that route because some
Speaker 3: basketball players like, nah, I gotta start, man.
Speaker 5: Ain't I ain't go that route. That's just where that's
Speaker 5: That's just.
Speaker 7: Where it took me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If you look back in my I want to say
Speaker 2: in my fifth year, I was I was the starting
Speaker 2: guard on the on the sixers team, averaging like twenty
Speaker 2: two points a game, five assists.
Speaker 5: I was making a lot of noise and I broke
Speaker 5: my jaw. Broke my jaw, was going to do that.
Speaker 5: I ran into Antoine Jameson was a loose ball. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I ran into it.
Speaker 2: I ran into a showd on my left side that
Speaker 2: it transferred and broke the right side of my job.
Speaker 2: So I was out six to eight weeks. So they
Speaker 2: needed a guard. They brought back Alan Iarverson. So by
Speaker 2: the time I come back, Alan Iverson ain't coming off
Speaker 2: the bench. I've been on that motherfucker ever since. Where
Speaker 2: it took me, you know what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 2: that's where it took me out.
Speaker 7: That flow, Yeah, you touch that flows.
Speaker 5: I handled my business, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I show young kids and people in there, even in
Speaker 2: even other pros looked at it like you know, they don't.
Speaker 2: They wasn't where they wanted to be in their career.
Speaker 2: But I took that and I made it. I made
Speaker 2: it look like a cool job, something something to really do.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I came off the bench three four years in a
Speaker 2: row as leading teams and scoring, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and still didn't get the opportunity to start. You know,
Speaker 2: but I did my part. Every time I stepped in
Speaker 2: between the lines, I did my part.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: So when you say you to go or the greatest
Speaker 2: to ever do it, I can't even fight it. I
Speaker 2: did it for so long, like nobody else in that
Speaker 2: in that position, whether it's Jamal Amanu or other guys
Speaker 2: that we always get put into that same conversation.
Speaker 5: I did it my whole career. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Is there is there a lot of well, obviously there's
Speaker 3: a lot of stress that comes with playing ball and
Speaker 3: being the star. And I say that just because we
Speaker 3: all see what John Morant went through, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, went to kick it at the Strip Club.
Speaker 3: Of course he might have showed a fire arm and everything,
Speaker 3: but they kind of like tried.
Speaker 4: To persecute him.
Speaker 3: And when I saw that, immediately I kind of thought
Speaker 3: about the you know, the living pepper Man the city
Speaker 3: situation where it was like, damn, a ball player can't
Speaker 3: go kick it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we get I don't know why
Speaker 2: we have this image of we just got to go
Speaker 2: hoop and we don't have lives outside of regular people,
Speaker 2: regular people.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It's the worst for athletes more than more than anybody else,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: But because they want to do for real though Oh yeah,
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Rabbits can do with that. But on the flip side,
Speaker 2: I get it. We worked for a fortune five hundred company. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, openly traded, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So it got to look at certain way,
Speaker 2: It gotta it gotta be packaged a certain way.
Speaker 3: So I get it. What kind of music Little Will
Speaker 3: used to listen to before them games? Like you like
Speaker 3: the real Aggressive Ship? Like I was heavy on the
Speaker 3: Aggressive Ship. I was big time Meek Meal. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was a little Wayne.
Speaker 5: It was geezy, it was tipped. Yeah. It was always
Speaker 5: a mix of that uh star Leado in my top five.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, he's hard, he's very underrated
Speaker 2: the lead up so I can mix them up.
Speaker 4: If you was playing out, would you be sucking with
Speaker 4: like some drill music.
Speaker 5: Or some I just I can't get into. Not relevant
Speaker 5: to nothing.
Speaker 9: I go through real like if somebody is able to
Speaker 9: like say that, like, that's not me.
Speaker 5: Hey, so you said you finally got a chance. Know
Speaker 5: how you deal with people that got damn? You feel like, man,
Speaker 5: the nigga a little ship because he's saying.
Speaker 2: No, uncomfortable in my skin? Bro, I gave away meanings.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like literally and some of
Speaker 2: that to a nigga like damn, you know a nigga, God, damn,
Speaker 2: how you with you with my skin?
Speaker 5: If he say that, it's a problem him. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Like I said, it's almost twenty
Speaker 5: years in this business. It's gonna be hard to find
Speaker 5: a nigga that do say that. But if you do,
Speaker 5: that's that's gonna be on him. I promise it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I did everything I could for family, friends,
Speaker 2: even niggas that didn't didn't even deserve it. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I just always put myself in the
Speaker 2: position to keep my spirit clean, keep my soul clean.
Speaker 2: So if I can do it for y'all would But
Speaker 2: after a while, I should just get giving away too
Speaker 2: much of him?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Got regrets that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like honey fail company, Honey, honey fail business ventures.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That that was all that
Speaker 5: was listening to everybody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that and that was my fault though I was
Speaker 2: trying to I should have I.
Speaker 5: Should have Ham and that ship listen were always young.
Speaker 5: The only thing I knew I.
Speaker 8: Have you think Lord, that's what people feel like. Lords
Speaker 8: is like believing in everything you do. You know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying, Nah, we gotta figure out how we're gonna
Speaker 8: do this ship jump out here?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I can't just take a risk on some ship that
Speaker 8: it ain't no work. Like if this ship already working,
Speaker 8: it's already generated. Dope, we can't start up. I can't
Speaker 8: got them be the idea man, Right, soon as you
Speaker 8: think ship, you're thinking of my mind, right, get that
Speaker 8: ship to work.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: I ain't looking I ain't looking at none, I ain't
Speaker 2: doing no background nigga, just like this is.
Speaker 5: What it takes to do up here. Exaccurate. Now, like, nigga,
Speaker 5: bring me a business proof right, Yeah, you got you.
Speaker 6: Already making much how much profit?
Speaker 5: Already get the shark. They already get it off the ground.
Speaker 7: They already got it off the ground. That that niggatta
Speaker 7: show me proof.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 8: It's cool with everybody, got ideas on all right, started already.
Speaker 3: Good mother with no risks attached to right, man, you'll
Speaker 3: play for all your share teams and got a chance
Speaker 3: to travel the.
Speaker 4: World and live a lot of a lot of different places.
Speaker 3: Is Atlanta your favorite places that while you still was
Speaker 3: out here, or there's another place, the most comfortable place,
Speaker 3: most comfortable?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my most my most comfortable place. My mama moved
Speaker 2: me here, saved my life, real ship, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: She moved me here.
Speaker 2: I was fighting it, had to find new friends, new area,
Speaker 2: new everything, And it ended up being the best thing
Speaker 2: she could ever do for me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: She moved She moved me to Atlanta, got married, They
Speaker 2: moved me to Gwenette County.
Speaker 5: That was the first time I encountered white folks like
Speaker 5: for real real.
Speaker 2: That's the first time I encountered like diversity, like I never.
Speaker 5: Like real, like white people people like this new world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she put like she literally changed my life
Speaker 2: with moving me to Atlanta and showing me something different.
Speaker 2: So is it my favorite place to go? Nah, I've
Speaker 2: been traveling. I'm well traveled, so I got some I
Speaker 2: got some spots, I spent some time, but it's most comfortable,
Speaker 2: like anywhere I go.
Speaker 5: I'm ready to come back home for a minute. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And when you're in Atlanta, what's some of your favorite
Speaker 3: ship to fuck around with?
Speaker 2: I don't really go outside no more. But I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a consistent magic guy.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's my favorite.
Speaker 6: The m Kitchen, Yeah, first named after him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm consistent over there.
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't really do too much no more.
Speaker 2: The game getting young on me, man, I'm I'm right there.
Speaker 2: I'm right there with the girls too, like a little
Speaker 2: too young for me, just like I'm thirty six. Everybody
Speaker 2: the club gonna be twenty one, twenty two, So I'm
Speaker 2: right outside the pocket.
Speaker 5: I'm cool.
Speaker 4: They say anything else, about when I got big fat.
Speaker 9: So look, so speaking of that, speaking of girls and
Speaker 9: you know, females and all that kind of stuff. Like
Speaker 9: a while back, you were in the headlines because of
Speaker 9: your relationship decision.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you were.
Speaker 9: You were in a like, what would it be considered
Speaker 9: like a polyamorous situation.
Speaker 5: If that's the term. We were just kicking it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was like the way it
Speaker 9: was presented to the world was slightly different than from
Speaker 9: what I'm assuming or from what I'm understanding it actually was.
Speaker 9: So do you kind of like regret that decision, like
Speaker 9: bringing it, putting it out there to the world like that,
Speaker 9: or are you okay with it and still cool with
Speaker 9: the way that you decided to have the relationship thing
Speaker 9: back then.
Speaker 5: I don't regret it. We did that shit for years
Speaker 5: for when public. Yeah, yeah I was.
Speaker 2: I had two I had two women cause no them
Speaker 2: my children mothers.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I think I think when it went public, it just
Speaker 2: it yeah, sucked it up. It took a life of
Speaker 2: its own. You know what I'm saying, niggas that they
Speaker 2: don't have access to one of them, there was one, and.
Speaker 6: I think other people's opinions that.
Speaker 2: Other people's opinion. It's just the constant attention every day,
Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, Like, so would you do that again
Speaker 2: if the situation, if the situation presented itself and it
Speaker 2: was right, and it was it was a private It
Speaker 2: ain't got to be private at this point, but if it,
Speaker 2: if it was right, But how you.
Speaker 5: Deal with this ship? Like the how did go? I'm
Speaker 5: just asking for the people like want to try to expensive?
Speaker 2: Yeah they got to start that one bag, two bags,
Speaker 2: one car, two cars.
Speaker 5: Everything coming to so expensive?
Speaker 7: It sounds good.
Speaker 4: Good, But you was.
Speaker 8: Happy, you were happy, they were happy.
Speaker 4: I think it's crazy they was happy, they was happy.
Speaker 4: But you know, like.
Speaker 9: Yeah, especially like when you're dealing with like Internet and
Speaker 9: you're dealing with other people that don't have ship else
Speaker 9: to do but sit around and watch and wish that
Speaker 9: they were in this position and all this ship like
Speaker 9: you know, that can wear down on a person, and
Speaker 9: you know it just like you said, I'm sure just
Speaker 9: sucked it up because it was just too much. Like
Speaker 9: when you're not used to all of that and you've
Speaker 9: never dealt with all of that attention before, that ship
Speaker 9: can drive you crazy.
Speaker 5: For real, who idea? Was it like how you presented.
Speaker 6: He's just trying to get the pointers.
Speaker 7: No people, they really want to try to you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You know, I feel like it just happened.
Speaker 2: Bro. I ain't even gonna lie to you, like I
Speaker 2: promise you I wouldn't. Like no mastermind and none of that.
Speaker 2: It just it was just energy. They they one was
Speaker 2: into what she was into. She was into what she
Speaker 2: was into.
Speaker 6: We kind of got into it together.
Speaker 2: We got into it together, and it became consistent. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You got it.
Speaker 3: Salute them. He kept it real with them. He didn't
Speaker 3: try to hide any thing from.
Speaker 9: Real, Like that's a that's an honorable stand up thing
Speaker 9: for real real because niggas ain't doing that giving you
Speaker 9: the option to choose like that's that's commendable, to tear it.
Speaker 4: Down, That's all I'm saying. Like, that's just kind of
Speaker 4: crazy the world.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a crime.
Speaker 5: To be you, be you, genuinely you you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, motherfucker ain't gonna fuck with you you you like,
Speaker 8: because everybody's so used to God damn.
Speaker 7: Motherfucker putting on a different you know what I mean, mask.
Speaker 8: For person like I might be the way towards him,
Speaker 8: be these way towards him, be the way to just
Speaker 8: a fake add you canna say always right you you,
Speaker 8: You're a different person for everybody. Every cue you and
Speaker 8: everybody right, that's a fake ass ship. So if you
Speaker 8: just be one way most of the time, we be
Speaker 8: one way and stand on with you. Stand up God,
Speaker 8: you some little ship.
Speaker 9: It's a me and my Instagram going around and said,
Speaker 9: I understand why Tupac was beefing with everybody because the
Speaker 9: whole world fake.
Speaker 6: Is hell Like then that's real ship it is, And
Speaker 6: he was unapologetically himself.
Speaker 5: No matter what. Everybody asked you a question, you will
Speaker 5: do that type of relationship.
Speaker 4: No, but.
Speaker 6: Because I'm not a man, I'm a female and my.
Speaker 5: Emotions you have a okay, I'm just being female.
Speaker 6: I'm a female and my emotions are different.
Speaker 9: So like I I wouldn't necessarily be interested in that
Speaker 9: because I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't like I don't want to say I don't
Speaker 6: like this. No, that ain't. That ain't My daddy gave
Speaker 6: me that a year.
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with nothing, Because it sounds like you
Speaker 2: was dancing to the political No.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just I.
Speaker 6: Don't like to share.
Speaker 9: So me trying to be in a situation knowingly with another.
Speaker 6: Bitch that ain't gonna work with me because I don't.
Speaker 9: It's not you know it wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't trip if one of your homegirls did it.
Speaker 3: That's what your homegirl doing.
Speaker 6: Homegirl did it with her nigga and another bitch. That
Speaker 6: ain't my business.
Speaker 4: But you said you wouldn't trip it. Want to stop it.
Speaker 3: I got trip about some ship that I'm just saying
Speaker 3: because some people will all talk about being judgmental here,
Speaker 3: that's kind of how we got there.
Speaker 9: No, she's happy ship. Go get another bitch and ten
Speaker 9: other bitches.
Speaker 4: It don't matter, that's what makes me.
Speaker 5: That's just not what that's the.
Speaker 4: Let them do whatever they want to do they have.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you should support people that are doing ship that
Speaker 9: makes them happy.
Speaker 3: As long as you get right exactly so it ain't
Speaker 3: hurt nobody, right. Yeah, well I look at it. So
Speaker 3: does that make it harder now too? I guess he's
Speaker 3: the word date.
Speaker 1: Easier for real because it's a lot of women that
Speaker 1: approached me that think that's how I live on a
Speaker 1: regular basis.
Speaker 2: So they're like, yo, I want you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I'm happy, so you know it's gonna come out. I'm
Speaker 2: cool where I'm at. But yeah, but a lot of
Speaker 2: women that's what they think. I'm on it at all times,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you don't through your journey, you have you
Speaker 3: seen yourself having to make your circle smaller just to
Speaker 3: just to be happy.
Speaker 5: That's just natural.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Niggas grow up, get older, your kids grow apart.
Speaker 2: After niggas be club friends, you ain't going to the
Speaker 2: club no more. That ship out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's just that's just natural. It ain't even like signs
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: It's just maybe like people that you feel like might
Speaker 3: be leeches, they ain't really bringing nothing to the table.
Speaker 4: They just kind of taking away.
Speaker 5: You see a lot of that too.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think people they'll show that, they'll
Speaker 2: show that part, you know, the longer they stay around
Speaker 2: you like what you what you're really there for? Because
Speaker 2: once you evolve, you gonna start seeing motherfuckers like yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm with that, or people gonna stay stagnant.
Speaker 5: And just go ahead. Yeah, that's real. That was an
Speaker 5: easy one.
Speaker 3: What kind of advice you'd be giving to like the
Speaker 3: young ball players and ship because I feel like a
Speaker 3: lot of the young niggas like really really look up
Speaker 3: to you and ship. So if you get to chop
Speaker 3: it up with someone with some of the advice, you.
Speaker 2: Just understand they under scrutiny at all times. You know
Speaker 2: you're underscrutiny at all times, like and I feel it's
Speaker 2: about it's about creating this image. It's about buying into
Speaker 2: the image of the player that you want to love.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, whether you want whether you
Speaker 2: want to be looked at as a villain or whether
Speaker 2: you want to be looked at as a hero.
Speaker 5: And our business, you know.
Speaker 2: It's sports entertainment, you know what I'm saying. So half
Speaker 2: of it is who you are outside of the court.
Speaker 2: That's why the Josh is so big. Everybody love him.
Speaker 2: If he wasn't nobody that ship when you it'll be
Speaker 2: a blip on the screen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You see it at the bottom and then it'll go
Speaker 2: away because it's Jack. That shit took a life of
Speaker 2: his own, you know what I'm saying. So just understand
Speaker 2: where they're at at all times and understanding their value
Speaker 2: that shit, fuck with your money.
Speaker 9: So, speaking of fucking with the money, let me ask
Speaker 9: your opinion on something like with all the stuff that's
Speaker 9: going on with John Morant and what's the actor guy Anthony.
Speaker 4: The Creed dou But I think they said that was fake.
Speaker 5: No, no, no.
Speaker 9: But what I'm saying is before they even as soon
Speaker 9: as they announced the shit, oh no, the army pulled
Speaker 9: his shit.
Speaker 6: Somebody else pulled his shit.
Speaker 9: And then it came back a few hours later that
Speaker 9: the lady recanted her story and you know, said that
Speaker 9: it wasn't truthful and all this stuff whatever, whatever, How
Speaker 9: do you feel about companies being so quick to basically
Speaker 9: desecrate the situation with a popular I don't want to
Speaker 9: say African American, but now the times out of ten,
Speaker 9: it usually only happens to us when they have a
Speaker 9: situation without getting all the fa acting, without doing their
Speaker 9: due diligence to find out whether or not the person
Speaker 9: was actually right or wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just that's just where we're at. And like
Speaker 5: I said, the NBA is a fortune five hundred company.
Speaker 5: The Army. They are ship the Army. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They've been around a long time around.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they Fortune five or not. You know,
Speaker 5: I know they get money though, but ship they don't.
Speaker 2: They can't be associated with nothing, even the even the accusation.
Speaker 5: You know. So ships sad and it's and it happens
Speaker 5: more so than us. But it is what it is a.
Speaker 7: Lot of time nigga be doing ship too though.
Speaker 8: So what I'm saying, like so they they don't know,
Speaker 8: Nigga be ready to run like guy, we can't. I
Speaker 8: can't beat the niggas sit around like we won't be
Speaker 8: doing ship we did?
Speaker 7: We do ship we got. It's fucked up worse for us.
Speaker 7: The consequence here's little definitely.
Speaker 8: What nigga we how the probably believe that that ship
Speaker 8: what happened?
Speaker 7: What he said he did?
Speaker 6: His girlfriend said that she beat him up?
Speaker 5: Which one the other one way?
Speaker 3: The the other main character one that big Bye yeah
Speaker 3: with the lip yeah big a character.
Speaker 7: Character from that Mona.
Speaker 8: You know that niggas a visit and that that should
Speaker 8: have get stuck on you.
Speaker 7: Not saying this, I remember that the character gets stuck
Speaker 7: on you in that.
Speaker 9: Movie Ship Ye crazy stuck on how not?
Speaker 2: How would you want to how would you want a
Speaker 2: company deal if you the head of If you the
Speaker 2: head of that company and some ship come up with
Speaker 2: the niggas you, is you gonna wait? Is you gonna
Speaker 2: wait wait it through, or you're gonna just several of
Speaker 2: your tires with it and keep moving.
Speaker 9: You know what real said? I say because I'm not
Speaker 9: in that position. But just me being a black person.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see. I can see both sides of Yeah,
Speaker 5: me being.
Speaker 9: A black person, I wouldn't I wouldn't completely like pull
Speaker 9: the ship and publicly embarrass the nigga, but I would
Speaker 9: hold onto the campaign until we got to the bottom
Speaker 9: of it.
Speaker 6: I would send my people to get to the bottom
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 8: Your name shouldn't be be mentioned with this, so some
Speaker 8: some some, Yeah.
Speaker 5: You need to.
Speaker 8: Get flat from that ship like that. You gotta be
Speaker 8: careful with this. You gotta be careful with.
Speaker 9: Your money, man, That's what I'm saying. I would hold
Speaker 9: the campaign and the affiliation.
Speaker 2: I've been the talent and the boss, so I can
Speaker 2: see the talent side of it, and I can see
Speaker 2: the both sides, just like just like.
Speaker 6: Look at look at what's the nigga's name? The rap
Speaker 6: Nigga n L E. Chopper. His whole placement.
Speaker 9: Was dependent on the job Morant commercial. He had a
Speaker 9: song that was gonna be featured in the power Aid
Speaker 9: commercial for the John Moran campaign.
Speaker 6: For Powerade or Caterade or whatever it was.
Speaker 9: And when they pulled him because of like the gun
Speaker 9: shit or whatever they go with l.
Speaker 6: And it was just fucked up.
Speaker 7: Like why can we do it this together?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah, to a certain.
Speaker 7: Extent, I got to find somebody else to do it.
Speaker 6: Nah, they I mean, the campaign is dead, that ship
Speaker 6: is over with.
Speaker 9: They stuck porking that ship as soon as he got
Speaker 9: called on Live with the Gun. But what I'm saying
Speaker 9: is is just crazy how it's like a domino effect
Speaker 9: of so many things affected by one decision.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just hate that. I hate that happened.
Speaker 9: But I just I kind of I don't know, I
Speaker 9: kind of feel like it was like you, like you said,
Speaker 9: their fortune five hundred companies, So from their perspective, they're
Speaker 9: protecting their investment and protecting their company and their money.
Speaker 6: But I just I just hate, I just hate. I
Speaker 6: just hate that it happened.
Speaker 2: But on the flip Jos said, he responds before his actions,
Speaker 2: and he's standing on standing on what he did, and he.
Speaker 4: Did very big and very add.
Speaker 5: You know what come with that ship? You're thinking you're
Speaker 5: talking about some emotional ship.
Speaker 10: Ship.
Speaker 5: Its been this, you know, like, damn, you didn't be wrong.
Speaker 5: Dang did you wrong? You did? You know what you did?
Speaker 8: Bro that she was in the contract that was Yeah,
Speaker 8: I just you know, but you know, nigg gonna bump
Speaker 8: their head and the god damn do what to do
Speaker 8: ship in the game.
Speaker 5: What I mean the game. They's been there.
Speaker 7: He's back right now, that ship over you're thinking about
Speaker 7: that little bit of that.
Speaker 5: Ship bigger wad country.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I ain't doing that no more.
Speaker 5: But there be back. I'm just I'm glad that I'm
Speaker 5: gonna show up.
Speaker 7: But he never show up.
Speaker 5: Now some more money, some new money coming more folks
Speaker 5: know him that didn't know him before.
Speaker 4: He definitely crazy, right, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 9: Glad he's back, and I'm glad he's in a better position.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they let him see.
Speaker 7: You go out there and do what you supposed to
Speaker 7: be doing. You're gonna have some most ship cover around
Speaker 7: the ship though.
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, damn, it's crazy. We gotta make a positive
Speaker 5: at all negatives. Yeah, for sure, this is true. This
Speaker 5: is true.
Speaker 4: Everybody gonna make misticks.
Speaker 5: You know, well we'll be sucking up man, but we
Speaker 5: just gotta own it.
Speaker 7: I feel like once you own it.
Speaker 5: Though, that would make you super go away quickly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you own this ship because if you're trying to
Speaker 7: deny some ship, and you know you denying some sucker
Speaker 7: ass ship, deep down you don't did it like they did.
Speaker 7: You own you knowing you just the cause of all
Speaker 7: this that ship.
Speaker 5: Take somebody and their lingers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like you.
Speaker 8: You came to self accountability if you well, you know,
Speaker 8: because some people can't like no know they line. You know,
Speaker 8: you got some people to know they line to theyself.
Speaker 8: You and everybody like don't care and just.
Speaker 5: Hold on to it. You ain't gonna know baby, right.
Speaker 5: You can't say the counts facts?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that big facts like the podcast.
Speaker 7: Say else about when I got big?
Speaker 3: Hey, when you get into it with somebody on the court,
Speaker 3: like how serious do it get?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Is it is it just understood? Like leaving them be
Speaker 3: over immediately over immediately.
Speaker 9: I didn't like the hockey players and ship they be
Speaker 9: ready to go to the death and ship like that.
Speaker 2: Na, they different breed hockey. It's just the heat of
Speaker 2: the moment. A bunch of theatrics and get in the back.
Speaker 6: Because they be on TV and ship, I mean just yes.
Speaker 5: And some of them are gonna do nothing for real.
Speaker 5: Some of them did. Some of them did serious like
Speaker 5: I just see that, I do see it.
Speaker 2: I don't see it get get crazy like a few
Speaker 2: times after after the cameras go off.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, but who got it? Well, I ain't
Speaker 5: gonna do it. I'm gonna leave it where it is at.
Speaker 5: But yeah, shp got ship.
Speaker 8: It was real, It was real, really yeah.
Speaker 2: Families involved like one just in the back. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 2: it got it got real really yeah.
Speaker 10: But ninety eight percent of that ship is cat ain't
Speaker 10: it ain't cant too much, listen, that's like a job.
Speaker 2: Once and I go to the locker rooms like all right,
Speaker 2: take this ship off. What my kids doing? What I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go eat that. I'm on to the leadership? Yeah,
Speaker 2: leader ship leading where it was at?
Speaker 4: You think you think?
Speaker 3: You think, like at least you stay out on social
Speaker 3: media like during the season and ship to a distraction.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Why people think that Some
Speaker 5: people like y'all think that safe.
Speaker 3: For instance, I saw okay, they'd be killing certain players
Speaker 3: based on performance.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, brother. You know how many
Speaker 2: checkdowns we go through before we get on the court.
Speaker 2: We got meetings, shoot around practices. You think me sitting
Speaker 2: there tweet. You think I'm sitting there tweeting ten minutes
Speaker 2: before I walk out? Like they tell Dremond, bro, stay
Speaker 2: off off the podcast. That niggas literally on the road
Speaker 2: in his hotel room. What else he gonna do? He
Speaker 2: gonna do something.
Speaker 6: I never looked at it like that he gonna do.
Speaker 5: Like so he either gonna go to the movies.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing that he's sitting in his hotel
Speaker 2: room and podcast because I can't go out and get drunk,
Speaker 2: right like they've grown me in, Like and we are
Speaker 2: trained professionals, Bro, We know how to play basketball and tweet.
Speaker 2: I hate when people be like, they shouldn't do this,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't do that, because you're looking at you looking
Speaker 2: at the tweet, and then if I miss a shot,
Speaker 2: you see, he shouldn't have been on Twitter last night.
Speaker 2: You'd be surprised what I was really doing last night, bro,
Speaker 2: Like if Twitter.
Speaker 5: Is the problem for my performance, trust me, bro, even
Speaker 5: no needle yeah for real, Yeah, Ship be forward.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying is the day I just
Speaker 3: hear some of the traditional people be like, you shouldn't
Speaker 3: be on social media while you're doing.
Speaker 9: This obviously just that's just but but I get what
Speaker 9: they're saying because they try to make the correlation, Like
Speaker 9: you said, if something sucks up, just like just like
Speaker 9: with the Drake shit, they said.
Speaker 2: Old school niggas used to shoot whole movies during the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, these niggas filming space jams and blue chips
Speaker 2: during the season.
Speaker 4: For real, Like yeah, getting their money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 8: What do you think the difference between like the old
Speaker 8: school basketball.
Speaker 5: Y now, Like what you think?
Speaker 2: I think the game was more physical in the seventies,
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties. I think the game is way more
Speaker 2: physical and I think it turned into more not saying
Speaker 2: that Ship wasn't art, but I actually it's like real deal art.
Speaker 2: Like everybody is so skilled from one through five. You
Speaker 2: know a lot of guys in our game from the
Speaker 2: older generation, they were really good at at a thing.
Speaker 5: They had a niche, you know that they had. They
Speaker 5: had a kniche. He was big and you can block
Speaker 5: shots or you could run the floor. It was cool.
Speaker 2: Now you gotta guard Kevin Durant that can dribble the
Speaker 2: ball up the court throw it between his legs like
Speaker 2: that's basically like like yo ki is shock on wheels.
Speaker 2: Like imagine if you see Shaquille O'Neill with a three
Speaker 2: point shot with a crossover, with passing ability. That's what
Speaker 2: these guys are now, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: so I think the game evolves. That's natural with everything.
Speaker 2: Should should just get.
Speaker 5: Better and better.
Speaker 2: You watch people, you analyze them, you idolize them, and
Speaker 2: you see how I can take some of the ship,
Speaker 2: mix it with my ship and make it better, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And so I think the game
Speaker 2: then was a lot more physical, uh, a lot more
Speaker 2: taxing on your body.
Speaker 5: And now we just found it. We've just found a smarter,
Speaker 5: cleaner way to play.
Speaker 2: And people hate that because we ain't out there fighting
Speaker 2: and elbowing these you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What you think about what they call them low management
Speaker 3: when people just take like a lot of games off
Speaker 3: and sometimes the fans be kind of aggy because they
Speaker 3: might have bought tickets.
Speaker 5: I can see both. I can see both sides of it.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If I if I'm a kid and I only get
Speaker 2: to see X y Z play one time, I want
Speaker 2: I want them to suit up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But those fans and people that's crying for that have
Speaker 2: never experienced what the NBA season to do to your body,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, especially.
Speaker 5: When you already.
Speaker 2: Low management ain't for everybody, by the way, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, we talk about lower management, but
Speaker 2: if you look at the guys that are practicing load management,
Speaker 2: are doing it because they got uh They've had injuries
Speaker 2: in the past, you know, so you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: manage manage that ship, you know what I'm saying. And also,
Speaker 2: let me tell y'all about low management. No player has
Speaker 2: ever put itself on low management. So everybody be mad
Speaker 2: at the playoffs. We come in and they tell us
Speaker 2: the schedule. You know, bro, you're gonna do this Tuesday,
Speaker 2: You're gonna do this Wednesday. You're gonna take it easy
Speaker 2: because you knee might swell up and be back at
Speaker 2: it on Friday. And that's the schedule for the week.
Speaker 2: Ain't no players coming in like you know what tonight.
Speaker 2: I ain't feeling that shit. We don't got the option.
Speaker 2: We don't have that option like we ya. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: every the fans, it's been it's been put in a
Speaker 2: way where fans be mad at the players.
Speaker 5: They're not the ones making the decision on that schedule.
Speaker 2: Are we happy that we get a night off every
Speaker 2: once in a while when you I'm been on six
Speaker 2: airplanes this week and this is the fourth game on
Speaker 2: a Saturday for the week. Hell yeah, I might want
Speaker 2: to day off. Tie his head, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But fans get it confused like players just I ain't
Speaker 2: playing the night You don't, Yeah, you don't. You don't
Speaker 2: get that, you don't get that option. That that comes
Speaker 2: from having conversations with staff, having conversations with the trainers,
Speaker 2: and getting on the same page about how to get.
Speaker 5: Through a season.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a seven month season and you're trying
Speaker 2: to win NBA championship, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: you got to pick your spots when you want to
Speaker 2: have a difficult weekend than some that you can kind
Speaker 2: of cruise through and hopefully you get out of it healthy.
Speaker 2: Who you think to go there, Lebron James. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be elaborate shit, And nobody has ever had the pressure
Speaker 2: on them that he has in basketball and indeed, everything
Speaker 2: that we thought he was going to do from Lebron
Speaker 2: James has been the ship since he was thirteen years old.
Speaker 5: He about to be thirty eight, and he's still relevant,
Speaker 5: like we.
Speaker 2: Still expect it's still a standard for the Lakers to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs with him at thirty eight years old.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's how good he is.
Speaker 2: That's how much he's held his business together for twenty
Speaker 2: five years. He's had he's been held to the highest
Speaker 2: center and did everything. And now that he's at the
Speaker 2: end of his career, you start to see what the
Speaker 2: business side of Lebrons looked like. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You starting to see the movies. You starting to see
Speaker 2: him popping out be at more more events. He's showing
Speaker 2: you his mogul shit, He on his he on his mogul,
Speaker 2: he on his entrepreneur and the dude ain't miss yet.
Speaker 5: How long did Jordan play? MJ played? I want to
Speaker 5: say sixteen years.
Speaker 6: Oh so it ain't nowhere near as long as Lebron.
Speaker 5: Look, it's in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 2: But that's a but when it comes to that, that's
Speaker 2: a generational thing for me. Like you know, by the
Speaker 2: time Michael Jordan tired off ten you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So anything that I saw with MJ, a lot of
Speaker 2: it was on TV or right towards the highlights, you know.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I got to sell I got to see the
Speaker 2: ups and the downs Lebron James, got to compete against
Speaker 2: him for seventeen years, got to be friends with him,
Speaker 2: got to see that whole process. You know. I watched
Speaker 2: that man hold the weight of the world on his
Speaker 2: shoulders with a smile on his face my entire.
Speaker 5: Career, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, say Lebron, Yeah,
Speaker 5: respect that.
Speaker 4: Who's somebody didn't get a chance to hoo it?
Speaker 5: Like you know, I.
Speaker 2: Missed MJ by two years. Oh really Yeah, that shit
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, you know what I'm saying. But I missed
Speaker 2: MJ by two seasons. I wish I could have got
Speaker 2: an opportunity to play against Michael Jordan. But my one
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's story. I got invited to his All Star
Speaker 2: game in high school. It was in New York. So
Speaker 2: he came to practice and he was he was playing
Speaker 2: around with us, taking our turns, playing one on one
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 5: And he was, uh.
Speaker 2: He had the ball and one of one of the
Speaker 2: guys in high school was guarding him, and he pawmed it,
Speaker 2: bitch like he was Michael, like the real Michael Jordan
Speaker 2: John palming it leaning back. They said, young fella, you
Speaker 2: can stop this. Fade away. You can have It's four
Speaker 2: hundred jobs in the NBA, you can have whichever one
Speaker 2: you want and put that ball down, shimmy fade away
Speaker 2: like a real commercial cash.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, like real superhero shit. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: What's some ship about little Will that people might not know?
Speaker 3: But something that people might not know about all the
Speaker 3: interesting shit out everything interesting about me?
Speaker 5: Everybody know that.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you pretty much live your life. You don't be
Speaker 3: tripping like you're an open book. You ain't tripping on
Speaker 3: who the Will is?
Speaker 2: No it ain't a lot of It ain't a lot
Speaker 2: of tricks to me, Bro, I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 2: it ain't a lot of tricks. I stay out of
Speaker 2: people a way, hoping they stay out of mind. Live
Speaker 2: my life, raised my kids. Bro. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's that's about it. I'm I'm actually getting more boring.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm slowing down, you know,
Speaker 2: because I found a I found peace and being with
Speaker 2: my kids every day. Like I said, especially my oldest
Speaker 2: daughter hooping. Now she picking up their basketball, start coaching
Speaker 2: her basketball. I ain't never in my life thought I
Speaker 2: coach women's basketball. And here I am. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I'm just in a good space. That
Speaker 2: should give me so much energy. Uh, it gives me.
Speaker 2: It just gives me something do every day purpose, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I don't feel like I'm
Speaker 2: missing nothing. I don't feel like I'm out of pocket.
Speaker 2: I feel like where I was supposed to be, living
Speaker 2: high spots, be living what.
Speaker 3: You based on, like finding a king of lead, what
Speaker 3: you based it off of, Like who you who you're
Speaker 3: gonna invest your time and your money into as far
Speaker 3: as the artists that you.
Speaker 2: Signed for me, I think I think about I think
Speaker 2: about big stages. You know, I've had this fascination with
Speaker 2: with with live shows. Like if there's a concert and
Speaker 2: i'm going I'm pulling up early, I'm gonna watch the
Speaker 2: opening acts.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch the build up of the show. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna watch your set.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch whether you're wrapping over your words or
Speaker 2: whether you use show tracks. I'm watching all of it that.
Speaker 2: I'm paying attention to all of that because I love artistry.
Speaker 2: I love an actual artist. You know, I don't really
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna invest money, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: you cutting corners, you know what I'm saying. So I watch, Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I watched the entirety of who the artist is
Speaker 2: and how much they take their career serious. So when
Speaker 2: I when I met a King, I spent like six
Speaker 2: months around them and we was getting to know each
Speaker 2: other before we decided to do some business together. But
Speaker 2: when I look for when I look for artists, I
Speaker 2: think of big stages. You know, can you do you
Speaker 2: do Birthday Bash the same week you do Coachella? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, can you be down? Can you
Speaker 2: do rolling loud and still mix it up with the
Speaker 2: hipster crowds? You know what I'm saying. And so I
Speaker 2: look for I look for pop stars.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't want to sign nobody woman inheriting some bullshit.
Speaker 2: It ain't got nothing to do with me, And you
Speaker 2: got a bunch of problems.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really, I don't really mix with that. That
Speaker 2: ain't really my speed, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: when I look for for artists, I look for for
Speaker 2: big stage artists.
Speaker 4: How you stopped from spoiling your artists?
Speaker 3: Being that you really can probably give them everything and anything,
Speaker 3: How you stop with spoiling.
Speaker 2: Them when you're in the red, when you when you're
Speaker 2: trying to when you're trying to do too much, trying
Speaker 2: to expose them too too much?
Speaker 5: You know you can.
Speaker 2: You can blow a budget on some ship that really
Speaker 2: you look back on it like it didn't. It didn't
Speaker 2: move the needle. It didn't help us nothing, but it
Speaker 2: was it felt good. It was it was a look,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It was a look, but
Speaker 2: it didn't It didn't move us forward, you know, And
Speaker 2: so I think learning that part of it, finding that
Speaker 2: balance of knowing that I can, I can pull strings
Speaker 2: and I got resource, is also allowing them the opportunity
Speaker 2: to bump their heads and get out there and learn
Speaker 2: and and see what it takes to build something cause ship.
Speaker 2: On the CEO side, I'm doing the same thing. I'm
Speaker 2: learning the business as I go and seeing what type
Speaker 2: of art, what type of CEO I'm gonna be, what
Speaker 2: type of type of leader I want to be, what
Speaker 2: type of voice I'm gonna have, how my shit gonna look,
Speaker 2: how it's gonna feel, you know, I'm going through all
Speaker 2: of those, all of those adjustments as well, so, you know,
Speaker 2: mainly just being just just knowing when we look at
Speaker 2: the books that it looked cool, but it didn't help
Speaker 2: us nothing.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 3: What's your most valuable piece of game? You can give
Speaker 3: to anybody out there, bro, Like, your most valuable piece
Speaker 3: of game and a gym that you would give everyone
Speaker 3: in the gym.
Speaker 4: No, just a gym agent, gym ship.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a broad question, man.
Speaker 4: Namely to the young niggas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I if I was, if I was saying
Speaker 2: something to some young niggas, that's that's looking to hoop
Speaker 2: and and looking to just be their selves, be their
Speaker 2: authentic selves and live out loud.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: Just just keep your nose clean and mind your business.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's been. That's been very beneficial to me.
Speaker 2: I learned early on to mind my business, stay out.
Speaker 2: Sh ain't got nothing to do with me. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And it's it's it's been. It's been
Speaker 2: good to me. I don't have a lot of enemies.
Speaker 2: I don't got I don't got nobody looking for me
Speaker 2: online this and niggas I ain't beat for I don't
Speaker 2: got no ops.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That ship I live very comfortably in my skin with that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So if I'm telling a
Speaker 2: young nigga something, just mind your business.
Speaker 3: Man, different different parts of life as a man, you
Speaker 3: grow just depend on your experiences. I know you spoke
Speaker 3: before in an interview about the situation that happened with
Speaker 3: somebody was gonna rob you but kind of yeah, identified
Speaker 3: you and then kind of fell back. But how did
Speaker 3: that change? Is the way you move, the way you
Speaker 3: think and everything at that moment because it got a
Speaker 3: little bit more militant.
Speaker 2: I tell you that we got we got a little
Speaker 2: bit more deliberate how we move. But ship shout out
Speaker 2: the buddy. He never came out and said, yo, that
Speaker 2: was me. He ain't never wanted no attention from the ship.
Speaker 2: But he ran up on my car and decided not
Speaker 2: to rob me because he said he saw the things
Speaker 2: that I did in this community.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Wow, yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I was in North Philly.
Speaker 2: I was playing with the Sixers at the time, and
Speaker 2: the crazy shit my security was actually in the car
Speaker 2: behind me.
Speaker 5: We was leaving. He was leaving the barber shop, and
Speaker 5: he called me and said you cool. I said, yea,
Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm going in the house.
Speaker 2: And I watched him in my review you turn and
Speaker 2: go the other way, and he did that. I looked
Speaker 2: down on my phone and tapped on my window, like
Speaker 2: get out the car. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 2: rolled the window down instead of getting out the car.
Speaker 2: And they looked at me said I can't even do
Speaker 2: it to you, bro. He said, I can't even do
Speaker 2: it till you do too much for my community.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: I just seen what you want. Meek Mill did with
Speaker 2: them coats, y'all. Me and Meek had just did an event.
Speaker 5: We took.
Speaker 2: Meek had ten thousand, I took ten thousand, and we
Speaker 2: went down Berlin and coat factory got a U haulween.
Speaker 2: He was like, no foundations or nothing, got a U haul,
Speaker 2: bought a bunch of coats, gloves, and ship pulled up
Speaker 2: in North Philly was giving that ship out and we
Speaker 2: had just we we had literally just did that ship.
Speaker 2: And Buddy said, he said he didn't want to rob
Speaker 2: me because of that. And Nigga said, ship I gotta
Speaker 2: they said, I got a bus ticket in his gun.
Speaker 2: That's all I got to my name. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So just thinking fast. I looked across the street.
Speaker 2: I said, brother McDonald's right there. If you meet me
Speaker 2: at the McDonald's, I buy you whatever you want to eat.
Speaker 2: Nigga ran across the street. And I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 2: Nigga right across the street.
Speaker 5: I wanted to pull off on this. I wanted to
Speaker 5: pull off on his ass so bad. But I called.
Speaker 5: I called my man.
Speaker 2: I said, hey, pull back up, turn I said, turn around,
Speaker 2: come to the McDonald's right now. So I walk into
Speaker 2: McDonald's with Buddy. I'm at I'm at the counter with
Speaker 2: my car, pan and my dog. He ran in like
Speaker 2: Chinese fire drill up everything, and I'm looking at him
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. So he just stood
Speaker 2: at the door. I paid for buddy food. I said, Man,
Speaker 2: good luck to you, bro, and show the end of
Speaker 2: the story. That was That was it? But I ain't
Speaker 2: never heard. I ain't never heard nothing like you know
Speaker 2: in the time of cloud. Motherfuckers want some attention for something.
Speaker 2: I ain't never heard Buddy come out and say that
Speaker 2: was me that did that? Should he probably did something
Speaker 2: else after that? He was He probably through I can't stop.
Speaker 2: I gotta go do something else.
Speaker 5: That you charged.
Speaker 6: Different.
Speaker 5: I think about it. Yeah, I probably made the ship worse.
Speaker 5: I think about it.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, man, a little well man.
Speaker 3: So look to you, man, We appreciate this conversation, much
Speaker 3: continued success. To you anything we should be looking out
Speaker 3: for or what shouould be looking out for?
Speaker 5: From the king?
Speaker 2: I lee on the way, okay, roses are red. Damn
Speaker 2: I forgot the ship right.
Speaker 7: You got a date?
Speaker 5: No, I ain't got no date.
Speaker 6: Okay, Kim.
Speaker 9: Roses are red coming soon.
Speaker 5: Roses are red.
Speaker 2: But why am I seeing blue?
Speaker 5: Why am I seeing blue? Yeah, King I Lee on
Speaker 5: the way for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: Big shouts out to Little Well pulling up the big facts.
Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 6: Street.
Speaker 5: It's big facts, no captain bit