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Speaker 1: No way.

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Speaker 2: Yoh, what's up, dude?

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Speaker 1: Way is up?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: I didn't think you called me. This is the first

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see here, I'm gonna I'm not gonna ask

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Speaker 2: you your name because I'm just gonna forget which is not?

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Speaker 2: Which is? You know this should be anonymous anyway, But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you Jason. Jason. It says here that

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Speaker 2: you used to have a chronic addiction to camera women.

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Speaker 2: Does that? Does that mean? Okay? That means like cam

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Speaker 2: girls like girls.

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Speaker 1: Who yes, you know more more specifically, to the audience

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Speaker 1: not like well, pretty much OnlyFans but more or less

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Speaker 1: live and you can pretty much pay them to do

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Speaker 1: whatever they want. Or well, you think whatever you want

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Speaker 1: and then you.

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Speaker 2: Think this, you think this twitch. I'm sorry you think

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Speaker 2: this twitch. Audience is not familiar with the term cam girl.

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Speaker 2: I'm basically a cairl a camera that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cam get go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so how long have you been addicted to the

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Speaker 2: cam girls?

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Speaker 1: For shit? That started back in twenty twenty as soon

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Speaker 1: So it was like it was like, right as I

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Speaker 1: started getting my own money, I was all like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And that uh I turned into a pretty big thing

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Speaker 2: How much money were you spending?

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, I probably couldn't even put a number on it.

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Speaker 1: There was there was one girl whose attention I was

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Speaker 2: Are you is this still something that you're struggling with

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's kind of gotten under control. There's

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Speaker 1: And shit, so I'm talking to another girl in real

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about this. So what when you were

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Speaker 2: What was it?

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Speaker 1: I think I was just chasing for like attention or

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Speaker 1: just like seeking attention because in high school, you know

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Speaker 1: But I'd say, I'd say, like a mixture between like

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Speaker 2: So did this did like, uh, did this alleviate that

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Speaker 1: So there were probably like three women that I managed

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Speaker 2: You know, minute, I guess, so they wait, haunt So

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Speaker 2: they extorted you for money, Like what what were they do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there was there was one girl that, uh,

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Speaker 1: To like me yes, yes, yeah, no, there is there

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Speaker 2: I ain't trying to where where where did this cam

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Speaker 1: Hell no, they wanted me to though, But it was

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Speaker 1: so and so. Then it just be one of those

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Speaker 2: Isn't that what the movie sex Drive is about.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I never I ain't seen that one.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, it was just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So about a year and a half ago, I changed

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. You see this girl, the girl who

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Speaker 1: those things I was like, oh, yeah, no. I probably

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Speaker 2: Dude, she did you pay her to tattoo her your

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Speaker 1: I even told her it was a bad idea too. No,

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Speaker 1: I even told her it was a bad idea too.

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Speaker 2: Why did she tattoo your name on her arm?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. She was like, like, like I said,

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Speaker 1: but I think she he was obsessed with me in

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Speaker 1: I have a year on our calendar. The first date

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Speaker 1: Right pretty much. That's that's that's the coping mechanism that

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Speaker 2: Hey listen, what's your name again? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you gave me the name

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Speaker 1: of Jason.

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Speaker 2: Jason. Thank you for.

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Speaker 1: To reveal my real name today maybe.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me let me, let me let me

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Speaker 2: All right? You open what does it say where you

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00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: can open an account?

436
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

437
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: Ship, I don't know what the right one? This one's

438
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: talking about investors.

439
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna go to You're gonna go to investors

440
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: your I don't know, Okay, all right, all right, you're

441
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: gonna open.

442
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: The personal investors, retirement plan, participants, institutional investor.

443
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: Right, you're a personal investor. You're gonna you're a personal investor.

444
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: All right, go let's go.

445
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: What's the saying now?

446
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: Uh?

447
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: Now, Now it's given me a prompt open an account.

448
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna open an account.

449
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm opening that account.

450
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: All right. What's to say to do?

451
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 3: Now?

452
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: I gotta says if I already have a log in

453
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: or from new to Vanguard, I'm gonna say about the Vanguard?

454
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: All right, it says, Now, how can we get you started?

455
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: I would like to open a new account with money

456
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: from my bank rollover and employer plan.

457
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: Are you gonna open You're gonna open a new account

458
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: with money from your bank? This is this is this

459
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: is awesome. Let's do this whole thing. We're gonna you're

460
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: gonna have I want you to have a roth Ira

461
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 2: by the end of this call. Okay, all right, all right,

462
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: what's the saying now?

463
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: Wait?

464
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Speaker 4: Wait?

465
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Speaker 1: How much how much money do I have to put

466
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Speaker 1: down yet?

467
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: Don't worry about.

468
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Speaker 1: That okay, okay, Uh, Vanguard Advice Services on my own.

469
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do on my own. I got the motherfucking

470
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Speaker 1: get go helping me.

471
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm your I'm your financial advisor.

472
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: Now, yes, sir, all right, I think I gotta here's

473
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Speaker 1: an overview of what's next. Select your account. Damn it

474
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: says it'll take five to ten minutes you find with that.

475
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Speaker 2: Get Uh, well, no, i'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna

476
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: let you off. But like, all right, basically all right, look,

477
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: you got a personal hold. I'm actually on the Vanguard

478
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: website right now. All right, yeah, go open an accounts okay,

479
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk through this too.

480
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: All right, all right. Now it's asking me my investment

481
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: goal retirement, general investing, or emergency saving.

482
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: Open a new account with money for my bank. Uh yeah,

483
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: invest on my own.

484
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

485
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: You don't want somebody to alright, open an account. Yeah,

486
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: select your account, all right. Your goal is retirement, all right, yop.

487
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: The account is for yourself, and you're gonna open up

488
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: a roth Ira yop. All right, all right, so it's

489
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: just say continue right yep, all right, hey continue.

490
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, and then I got to put

491
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Speaker 1: in all my information, all.

492
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you fill all that stuff. All right. I'm

493
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: gonna let you go here, but you fill all that out. Okay.

494
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: Here's what you do, all right, here's what you do.

495
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: You open a wroth Ira all right, okay, and all

496
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: the money that you do not want to spend on camgirls, okay,

497
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: you go here, you put it there. Okay, you put

498
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: it into your wroth Ira, and then when you're sixty

499
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: years old, you will have a shit ton of money.

500
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate this more than words can fucking manifest right now.

501
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: So basically, here's how this works. All right. You're gonna

502
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: fucking you take money that you've already This is so funny.

503
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: You take money that you already paid taxes on and

504
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: you put it into this account, and then when it's

505
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: in the account, you invest it invested in. You're gonna

506
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: invest it in something called VU which tracks the sp

507
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: five hundred okay, and you can't take it out without

508
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: having to pay fees on your earnings unless if you're

509
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: fifty nine years old, so you just fucking you can

510
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: put up to seven thousand dollars into this account a year,

511
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: and then when you're sixty years old. Okay, you can

512
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: take all the money out and then I mean at

513
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: sixty years old, I mean go crazy with the camgirls

514
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: at that point. But until then, fucking just keep putting

515
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: money in your raw Ira. That's my that's my practical

516
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: gecko advice to you.

517
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Speaker 1: I love that, all right? Getting great?

518
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: Now, what's your social Security number? No, don't tell us that.

519
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa a Right all right, So,

520
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, before we go, just just all right,

521
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: we got you. All right, you gotta sort of have

522
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Speaker 2: a girlfriend. Maybe, yeah, you have wraw Ira, I would say, so,

523
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I would say so, yeah, I mean you know, I mean, like, man,

524
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: it's all have been a few weeks. Don't count your

525
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Speaker 2: eggs before.

526
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Speaker 3: They had Yeah nah, But you know, all.

527
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 2: Right, what else? What else with you? Jason?

528
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I went to I went to the races that they

529
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: have out here near near my house the other day,

530
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: and that actually it actually motivated me. Uh yeah, cause

531
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: it was it was a it was a big old

532
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: drift competition. So people got like, you know, Nissans, fucking corvettes,

533
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of fucking cars and there and

534
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: there was this old beat up ass car and it

535
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: was like it was a Toyota from like the eighties,

536
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: and and he ended up winning second in his fucking group.

537
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: And it was one of those things that like it

538
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: motivated me, dude, And and now I want to I

539
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the races. And now

540
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Speaker 1: I want to fucking I want to do some shit

541
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: related to that. I want to like work on people's

542
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: cars related to the races or some ship.

543
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: That's cool, man, you got a goal, you got stuff

544
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: going on. That's that's what it is. That's another thing

545
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: is like you know, obviously like whatever your career goes

546
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: are like they're not going to satisfy like these needs

547
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: you have for like love and companionship. But it's good

548
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: to have stuff going on in your life. Just uh,

549
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: and I don't know how exactly you're gonna do this

550
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: because it's really tough, but just do me a fait.

551
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: Just like set yourself up so that, like we said earlier,

552
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: if things don't work out with this girl at your work,

553
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm sure they will, I'm happy to hear that.

554
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: You're you're you're putting yourself out there. But just we

555
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: want to make it so that if if that ship

556
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, you're not you know, diving back into

557
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: into the bad the bad habits. So just just like

558
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: prepare yourself for that mentally, I suppose.

559
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you know.

560
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Jason, you're you're you're a good guy.

561
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 3: Man.

562
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad to hear that you've overcome these

563
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: bad habits. A lot of people, I don't know, they

564
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: don't they don't get out of them because it's it's tough, bro, No, it's.

565
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: And and it's not it's not an easy thing either.

566
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: It's you know, like I said, it's not something I

567
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: really areted talking about until really recently, you know. I

568
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: mean I mean even even my friend that I was

569
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: talking to about the other day, so that says it's

570
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: become such a bad thing that I think, like now

571
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm addicted to just like getting my wallet drained, like

572
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: not even like I don't know it just you know,

573
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean once you once you get into

574
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: a habit, you get into a habit, and.

575
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: Now and now you get to go back to your

576
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: friend and go, hey, remember last time I told you

577
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: I was addicted to for a real.

578
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: All, Like I'll be like dude, check this fucking podcast out.

579
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: I was on the.

580
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Do you now you get to Now you get to

581
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: tell him that a lizard told you to open a

582
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: roth Ira bro.

583
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: For not a lizard, the fucking lizard. Who are you kidding?

584
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Jason? Is there anything else you want to say to

585
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?

586
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I want to say to the people of the computer,

587
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: It's not as bad as you've seem. It's really just

588
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: like in your own head. And as long as you

589
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: work on overcoming that, you can overcome that.

590
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Jason, good luck to you, sir.

591
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: Thank you.

592
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: I will.

593
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: I will make sure to call you tune. I will.

594
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: I want to update you and and I want to

595
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: soon reveal who I am to the people of the internet.

596
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: But for now I'm Jason.

597
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and hey, hey listen, man, you know what,

598
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna start doing. I'm gonna start

599
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: hanging out in the chat rooms of of chatter Bait,

600
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, just just to make sure that you're not there.

601
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: And if I see you there, I'm gonna get pissed.

602
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be better.

603
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: You better, you better reach through the goddamn.

604
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: Phone if you see uh, you know, Lyle forever. If

605
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: you see that username.

606
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Chat room, I need to I need to get the

607
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: hell out of there.

608
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: All right, man, talk to you later, good luck.

609
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: All right, love you, take care Jason, all I love you.

610
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: When are we going to get that roth? When are

611
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: we going to get that Vanguard sponsorship coming in?

612
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: Huh?

613
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: How many people did you use the if? You're if

614
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: you if you heard that call and you're gonna set

615
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: up a roth? Iray, just use the code gecko anyway

616
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: even there's no prompt for the code. But just like

617
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: at the point where when it tells you how you

618
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: found out about Vanguard, you say, don't even write the

619
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: therapegetical podcast, just write a lizard all from.

620
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: CALLI Hello, holy shit, geck Hi, what is your name?

621
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: I am CALLI CALLI.

622
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: What's up? How's life? Uh?

623
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: Pretty shit? To be honest, And I sound like a

624
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: young man on the phone, but I indeed female.

625
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: How old are you? Cali?

626
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: I am twenty four?

627
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: Well? What's up?

628
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: Man?

629
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: Would you want to talk about today?

630
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: I have like a ton of things I could talk about,

631
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: but right now, Uh, I owe twelve thousand dollars in rent?

632
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: How do you owe twelve thousand dollars in rent.

633
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: Uh, it's kind of fucked up, but uh, I'm not

634
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: the one who pays it, and kind of got into

635
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: a spot where it was required to pay the full

636
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: amount and couldn't pay it at the time, so I

637
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: just kind of kept piling up.

638
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: So who pays your rent?

639
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: My partner?

640
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so your partner pays the rent

641
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: and or he is supposed to be he's supposed to pay.

642
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: The rent, yeah, basically.

643
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: And did not, And so now you owe twelve thousand dollars. Yes,

644
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: how long has your partner been not paying the rent?

645
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: Like six months?

646
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: Why?

647
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Why have they been not paying the rent?

648
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

649
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: He's financially irresponsible, not to mention, he's eighteen years older

650
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 3: than me and we have two kids, and it's probably

651
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: a narcissist.

652
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: So are you too still together? Yeah? And you have

653
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: two kids? Yeah, and you haven't paid the rent.

654
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: No.

655
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Did you talk to him and be like, hey, you

656
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: were supposed to pay the rent?

657
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, uh, he's just like, oh, you'll

658
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: figure it out. You always do. It's over the pandemic.

659
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: We didn't pay rent for a year either, and then

660
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 3: I got an organization to pay it. So I'm sure

661
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: he's thinking I'm gonna be able to do the same. Again.

662
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: Do you work or are you full time? Mom? Yeah?

663
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay at home mom for the most part.

664
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: Okay. And and does he work? Yeah? Okay, I'm sorry.

665
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: I feel like I blanked out and you guys are

666
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: still together?

667
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

668
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? Where is he right now?

669
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: He's at work? Right now?

670
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: Okay, he's at work. And is he just he's just

671
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: not going to pay the rent?

672
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm guessing not because he doesn't have twelve thousand dollars.

673
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: What organization is this that pays the rent?

674
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it's called Community Action?

675
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: And you're going to reach out to them to pay

676
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: the rent again.

677
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm hoping they will. Yeah. If not, I'm going to

678
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: have to figure some shit out.

679
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: Is this guy? Is this guy your husband's Are you married?

680
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: No?

681
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: See?

682
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: So no. I met him when I was sixteen and

683
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: he was thirty five, and I got pregnant and we

684
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: kind of been together ever since. We had another kid

685
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: about a year ago.

686
00:33:52,560 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: Okaym uh, you know what, Before I go even further,

687
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, is there anything in particular

688
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: that you would like out of this phone call.

689
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean, not necessarily. I kind of just wanted to

690
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: talk to you, I suppose, and maybe events and maybe

691
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: people on the internet might take pity in my situation.

692
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Okay. And you're you're twenty four now, yeah, okay, do

693
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: you have any like do you is being a stay

694
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: at home mom? Is it something that you enjoy or

695
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: do you desire to, like have a career of your

696
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: own at some point?

697
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: I would prefer to Yeah, I mean staying at home sucks.

698
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: I've had jobs here and there, you know, fast food

699
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: and stuff, but other than that, not really anything.

700
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: Okay. And how like your partner, how often are they

701
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: doing shit like this?

702
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: A lot?

703
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Just like telling you that they're going to pay the

704
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: rent and then not paying the rent.

705
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: It's happened a lot. I've got he'll probably like five times.

706
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I mean this is this is your There's

707
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: a tough situation, Cali, it is.

708
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: I'm very stressed about it.

709
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a tough situation. Do you have any

710
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: help at all? You like people in your life that

711
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: that that help you. No?

712
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: Not really. I'm from San Diego and I moved to

713
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: Washington with him, So I'm kind of like alone here.

714
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, man, I mean the kids. I mean it's the kids.

715
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: They just make this thing so so tough.

716
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely does.

717
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm.

718
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm in a big situation.

719
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Uh, well, he cheated on me recently too. I had

721
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: a whole relationship with someone else, so the relationship ship

722
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: isn't good. Like I'm pretty sure he's in narcissisia. It's

723
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: like cameras all over the house watching me twenty four seven.

724
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: The cameras all over the house watching you.

725
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

726
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: Have you have you considered leaving the relationship or what

727
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: it might take to leave the relationship?

728
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: I have considered it, yeah, I mean heavily recently.

729
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: And it's just like, tell me what goes on in

730
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: your brain as you're as you're doing these considerations.

731
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: Well, it would be a big thing because we have kids,

732
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: and I don't. I just feel so trapped. I'm not

733
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: sure exactly how to go about it since I am

734
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: from out of state, so it's it's kind of it's

735
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: kind of tough.

736
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: Have you ever well, have you ever talked to a

737
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: real therapist about this or gotten like any kind of

738
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: professional help? Yeahbut anybody Okay, and what do they say?

739
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: Well, my therapist just encourages me to kind of do

740
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: what I'm ready for. I just see, like I literally

741
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: saw a psychiatrist yesterday too, okay, and so it's just

742
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: they just kind of tell me what it's up to you.

743
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: You know, we can only provide you options, and I'm like, yeah,

744
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: I know, but I just it's so hard because I've

745
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: been in the situation for like nine years.

746
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: Your therapist told you to do what you're ready for. Yeah, basically, Okay,

747
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: what are you ready for?

748
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: I don't fucking know. Like I was homeless for so

749
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: long and then he came around and was able to

750
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 3: provide for me, and I felt like comfortable and provided

751
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: for for so long. But I'm just scared to go

752
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: and be on my own and not know what to

753
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: do because I've never kind of been in that situation for.

754
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: I mean, is and and you know, I mean, i mean,

755
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: get get real with me here, is this. Is there

756
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: a fear of like is there a fear of like

757
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: retaliation if you leave him?

758
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: Definitely? Okay, definitely yeah.

759
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly. Well, first of all, I'm really sorry to

760
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: hear that you're in this situation. I mean, this is

761
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm happy to talk to you about it. It's totally

762
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: totally beyond me, and I think that you should try

763
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: and get some some help. I mean, you're you're a psychiatrist.

764
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: They just told you to do what you're ready for.

765
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean basically, you know, she's she's offered me

766
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: like options and help, and I'm like, okay, but I'm

767
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: just not I don't know if I'm ready to like

768
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: accept those options yet.

769
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: What options has she offered you?

770
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: Uh, like shelters and stuff like that, and ways to

771
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: get on my seat by myself.

772
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: But I just don't know.

773
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just scared.

774
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: Maybe what are you scared of.

775
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: Having to like do it all on my own? Maybe

776
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: why are.

777
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: You afraid of having to do it all on your own?

778
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: Because I never like have I don't know. It's just

779
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: like I feel so irrational, But I don't know.

780
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: As does your therapists or psychiatrist tell you anything else

781
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: helpful in terms of dealing with that?

782
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, I mean not in the way that you'd expect.

783
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: Didn't like of any coping techniques or anything like that.

784
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: They just say like, oh, will you get the fuck

785
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: out of it? And I'm like, yeah, I know, but no,

786
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: I don't know.

787
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: So I mean, I mean, look, dude, I I I'm

788
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: not gonna and I really can't like tell you what

789
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: to do with your life, or like who to be with,

790
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: or like what choices to make or anything. But I guess,

791
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: just like as as an Internet lizard talking to you

792
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: on the phone right now, I would say that I can't.

793
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: I hope you understand you're twenty four. I hope you

794
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: understand or at least have faith in the idea that

795
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: you your life can be much better than it is

796
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: right now. Do you have faith? Do you have faith

797
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: in that idea?

798
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Not really? I mean, I know it could be, but

799
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: I just maybe I don't have faith in myself.

800
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: And and I guess if you had a little, like

801
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of faith in the idea that your

802
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: life could be better than it is right now, and

803
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: that you have the power and the options that you

804
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: could take to make it a little bit better, that

805
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: you'd be a little bit more brave in taking those options.

806
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I know. That's

807
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: that's that's the part of where I feel like super

808
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: irrational because I'm like, just hear it kind of not

809
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: doing shit. It's kind of along for the ride right now.

810
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. But wouldn't you feel but like, and again,

811
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't know how you get there, And it's it's

812
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's a tough thing to do

813
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: in a in a little phone call when this is

814
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: something that you've been engrossed in for such a long time.

815
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: But like, do you think you could like find it

816
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: within yourself to just be like, Okay, I know that

817
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough and it's gonna be scary, and

818
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: I've never done it before, but like, I know that

819
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: if I take the help that's being provided to me

820
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: and I go down the path of these options that

821
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: have been presented to me, it'll lead to a better

822
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: life for myself and also very importantly a better life

823
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: for your kids.

824
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it would just be shitty at first, but

825
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: I you know, it's I just like I said, I

826
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: just I feel like a total loser or just not

827
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: doing anything.

828
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: But I guess I just want to get to the

829
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: bottom of like why, and I what's tough to talk

830
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: about this because I know it's so much easier said

831
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: than done, right, I mean, what's stopping you from from

832
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: wanting to take these options that that you see in

833
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: front of you, maybe.

834
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: Hoping that things will change, will be different or better

835
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: in some way.

836
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: But I don't know how.

837
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: That's gonna come about because it's just been the same

838
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: for so long and most likely progressively worse.

839
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: But so you but okay, so just even like right there,

840
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: like you just said that you have hope that things

841
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: will get better.

842
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: I do, but it's like hard to because things have

843
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: gone so much downhill recently.

844
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: But then if you have that little you, if you

845
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: have that little hope that things will get better, is

846
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: it such a jump for you to go, Okay, I

847
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: have this hope that things will get better, and here

848
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: are these options that these you know, whether it's a

849
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: shelter or I don't know. I don't know the logistics

850
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: of this shit, but like, is it a crazy jump

851
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: to go from Okay, I have this little tinge of

852
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: hope that things might get better, and here's some here

853
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: are some options that I could you know, are within

854
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: my control to take that will make them better.

855
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: Right, I'm just, like I said, scared of taking I'm

856
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: scared of change, scared of being alone because I've been

857
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: with someone for so long, but that someone doesn't treat

858
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: me well, you know, kind of takes advantage of me.

859
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: You know, like this morning, I woke up to the

860
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: toilet just fucking overflowing filled with shit, just like the

861
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 3: smallest considerations for what I do at home or not taken.

862
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: And it's fucking insane. So let's say you can't turn

863
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: a hoe to a housewife, but I did it, cat.

864
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: And I'll just like, like brow for the past eight years,

865
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, since you were, like since you were a kid,

866
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: your frame of reference as to what a relationship should

867
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: be and frankly as to like what life is has

868
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: been extremely narrow because of this relationship and because of

869
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: these circumstances, and I think and when you're in that

870
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: narrow frame of mind, you literally fucking can't see, Oh,

871
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: there actually does exist a better life than the life

872
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm living. And not only that, but I also there

873
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: are like ways for me to get there, you know.

874
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: And I understand not being able to see that because

875
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: you're so programmed in that like, you know, narrow frame

876
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: of reference of the life that you've experienced thus far.

877
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: And dude, all I can tell you is that if

878
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: you have a little bit of faith in yourself. I

879
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: think you can escape from that narrow frame that you've

880
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: been living in for so long and get to a

881
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: better version of life. And you'll just kind of have

882
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: to take my word for it and find some like

883
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: courage within yourself. Does any of that? Does any of

884
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: what I just said make any sense?

885
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it really does.

886
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm just stuck in a shit situation that I'm not

887
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: doing anything about and I need to, you know, like

888
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: buckle my shit up and get something done about it.

889
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: But it's just I'm just so scared, like I said,

890
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: you know, and change is hard.

891
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: It's really hard.

892
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 2: Would you do it for the kids? Oh?

893
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because things aren't that great for them. I mean

894
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: they're provided for, you know, but there's more I could do.

895
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: Kelly is is is there anything else that do you

896
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: you wanna say about any of this or talk about

897
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: or anything before we go?

898
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: I mean not really. I mean I just I've had

899
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: a lot to unpack and I just wanted to know

900
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: what you would think about it, since I just I

901
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: have so much going on. I've been through so much,

902
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: and we want everybody to know.

903
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: Do you make anything of any of the stuff that

904
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: we've talked about. Do you feel any sort of more

905
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: empowered to do whatever is in your ability to get

906
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: out of this thing?

907
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I know you kind of said the

908
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: same thing that my usual therapist does say, you know, like,

909
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: but it's just I don't know's it's just crazy. I'm

910
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: afraid because his family is my family, and I didn't

911
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: talk to my family growing up, so I'm afraid to

912
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: lose that. And it's just there's so much that I'm

913
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: afraid of and taking that next step, I know it

914
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: will be really difficult for me, and I'm just scared.

915
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: And I mean, you're just another person that's encouraged me,

916
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. Yeah.

917
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: The last thing I'll say to you is I just

918
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: I just I if the last thing I'll say and

919
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: then I'll let you go. I hope you have an

920
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: abundance mentality when it comes to your relationships. You know

921
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 2: what I mean, because you're sitting here like, oh, well,

922
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: you know, I know this guy sucks, but he's all

923
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: I got, and I know this person's.

924
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all I got, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah basically, and.

925
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: I understand how you got to that place because it's

926
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: been all you had for a while. But I just please,

927
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: if you get like anything out of this phone call,

928
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: I just hope it's that, like you adopt an abundance

929
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: mentality when it comes to your relationships and go instead

930
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: of going like, oh, I'm afraid to lose this because

931
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: it's all I've got, be like, well, this thing kind

932
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: of sucks. And actually there's an abundance of different people

933
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: out there in the universe that could come into my

934
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: life that would be far greater than what I have now.

935
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: And there's actually an abundance of relationships, an abundance of people,

936
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: And when you think about it like that, it's a

937
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: little bit easier to not stay stuck in a place

938
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: because you're like, oh, that's all I've got. So I

939
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: swear if you just get anything out of this, I

940
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: hope it's that you you adopt an abundance mentality when

941
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: it comes to people and relate ships, which is hard

942
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: to do but it's worth it. Thanks, Gek, Okay, good luck, Cali.

943
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say before we go?

944
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: Uh? Stay cool, love your Gek.

945
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: It was nice talking too, nice tucking you too, man,

946
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: good luck?

947
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: Thanks?

948
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: Do I have any post call thoughts on that. I mean,

949
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: I guess I can talk about I mean, abund abundance

950
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: mentality in general is something that is really hard to cultivate,

951
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: whether you're in a you know, a crazy dire situation

952
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: or just like you know, trying to make any kind

953
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 2: of life change. It's hard. It's hard. I'm not I'm

954
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: not the master of it. I'm not the master of

955
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: any of this ship by the way, I really I

956
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: have no idea, but I think it makes life better.

957
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: And it's weird because, like you could, it's fucking weird

958
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: because you can kind of have everything and still have

959
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: a scarcity mindset. I fucked that word up a lot.

960
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: I say scarce, scarcity. I thought that was the word,

961
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: and then people got mad at me and they said

962
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: it's actually scarce. But anyway, like you can have fucking everything.

963
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: They can be rich and have a scarcity mindset when

964
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: it comes to money, or you can be poor and

965
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: be like, oh, an abundance mindset, dude, Like just with

966
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: all this shit, it's like you can have everything and

967
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: still have a scary It's like the mindset is so

968
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: fucking important. And I don't I don't, I don't know

969
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: the logistics have had to change that mindset. But I

970
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: do know that that the mindset is important. I've talked

971
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: about that on the podcast, and that's something I've learned

972
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: from talking to so many people, is how important the

973
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: mindset is. So yeah, I don't know. I'm a fucking

974
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: gecko and uh thanks, yeah, thanks for calling Kelly. Hello, folks,

975
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But

976
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Speaker 2: what Happens?

986
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Speaker 4: It just basically gotten really toxic and I wanted out,

987
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: but I felt like I couldn't because like the guy

988
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: I had formed the bandwidth had become kind of my

989
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: best friend, and he had made me start drumming again

990
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: toxic much Evelake would get really intoxicated on stage and

991
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: just made made us look bad. And I mean, I

992
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993
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,800
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Speaker 2: episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right,

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Speaker 2: I have nothing else to say, goes on the line.

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Speaker 3: Taking out its own calls every nine Demi can goes

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