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Speaker 1: What is having everybody welcome into a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio John Harris,

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Speaker 1: along with the voice lavos of the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Mark vandermer Mark, how do you say Mark Vandermuir?

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Speaker 3: And Spanish, it's Mark VanderMeer or Marks as Missus Barreta,

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Speaker 3: my Spanish teacher in high school would say it.

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Speaker 2: And she actually fled Cuba.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the night that Michael Corleone did and Godfather Part two.

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Speaker 3: She was a Batista supporter and then left, and I

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Speaker 3: think her family lost all their land.

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Speaker 2: They're one of those Cuban families.

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Speaker 3: But Michael Corleon obviously a fictional character, so I doubt

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Speaker 3: she was with him. But she had some interesting stories

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Speaker 3: about Cuba. And I was too young to really be

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Speaker 3: really in touch with this.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, but it's interesting now. So I had Miss Ellison.

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Speaker 1: She was fantastic and I was nosed to the grindstone

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Speaker 1: as always in high school. I was in Spanish too,

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Speaker 1: and one of my favorite high school stories ever included

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Speaker 1: somebody that both of us know and Miss Elison was.

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Speaker 1: It was I stay of Spanish too, and she was

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Speaker 1: She got our exams back before the class ended, so

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Speaker 1: she was saying the scorer is, Susie had eighty five,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy had an eighty four. Johnny, great job. I got

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Speaker 1: a ninety eight on my Spanish too, and she goes,

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Speaker 1: she goes, insert name a person we know cheated and

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Speaker 1: got us seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Che did Yeah, ain't got us seventy two. It was

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Speaker 2: just the.

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Speaker 1: Way she did is she just dead panned it, and

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Speaker 1: it's just funny.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Years after the fact that I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: thing is he.

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Speaker 1: Probably speaks better Spanish than I do right now, so

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Speaker 1: it all worked out.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna have a little in the lab or.

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Speaker 2: Jude already speaks pretty fluent.

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Speaker 1: Spanish and not got cheated, by the way, Yeah he

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Speaker 1: Drew would not have cheated, and I definitely did not cheat.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna kick off today's show a little Texans

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Speaker 1: audio juice box because both of us were in here

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Speaker 1: talking with case Keenum.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen that video, go to YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Go find a Houston Texans page, sign up for it,

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Speaker 1: Go to Mark's or mine or both, Twitter handles, ex handles,

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Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it.

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Speaker 2: You'll see the video you want to check that out.

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Speaker 1: Case it's got a football camp coming up, so we

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Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit, but we dove into

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 1: One of the things before we get to our audio

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Speaker 1: juwbox Mark that came out of the interview with Case

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Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting when we started talking about

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Speaker 1: and then he laid out the various reasons why not

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Speaker 1: him having that moment. I know it's stunk not having

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Speaker 1: CJ for those two games, but for Case Keenan to

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Speaker 3: In fact, that was a big reason why we felt

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Speaker 3: We were talking about it before we knew he was going

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Speaker 2: You were on this right away. I was. You were

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Speaker 3: To play up the cinematic part of this. Dimico thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: But it all worked out, didn't it. And I was

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Speaker 1: I was glad for him for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 1: But Case's value. You know, we talked about it, Davis Mills,

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Speaker 1: And I think Cases got just a different I mean,

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Speaker 2: At pick six. You throw the pick six, and.

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Speaker 1: I remember when he throws the pick six, I thought,

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Speaker 1: And then it started to all click and it was

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a day.

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Speaker 2: I know. I won't forget.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible and the fact that he was the

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're just kind of holding the spot? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: If he's helpful. He was yesterday we saw that session.

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Speaker 3: Ask Nick this, but we have eight hundred questions to

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Speaker 3: you know, let's kno knock on whatever you can knock on.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Now it's Ota time, as Mark just said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: What are you putting in? How much are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Damika Ryans, who, like we said, we didn't really have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for us, it's for our guys to really understand

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Speaker 5: the daily installs that we're doing.

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Speaker 5: We want to get our guys a head start before

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Speaker 4: Right. We give our guys a daily install.

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Speaker 5: See what players can grasp, how much they can handle right,

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Speaker 5: And we're just seeing who can go out and execute

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Speaker 1: He's hearing it for the first time, like trying to

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Speaker 2: It looks good. Let's go to the next one.

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Speaker 1: There's not as much time loss, but you still have

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Joe Mixon heard some stuff that was familiar

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Speaker 1: going through through OTA's but just to give them an

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Speaker 3: Two things on that, and on the Rewatchables podcast, which

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Speaker 3: but listening to it, they have something called unanswerable questions

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Speaker 3: about movies, but unanswerable questions about the Texans include if

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Speaker 3: Bobby Slowick had gone, who was the OC going to

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Speaker 3: be and Gerard was interviewing as well. Would Gerard be

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Speaker 2: So you don't have to. And this is my annual reminder.

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Speaker 3: It was six weeks and you had six preseason games

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Speaker 1: Be mandatory to your point, to your point, guys that

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Speaker 5: We talk about competition, right We want as much competition

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Speaker 1: You where I want that to manifest itself is when

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Speaker 1: A competition is really strong between these two guys. Competition's

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Speaker 1: oh boy, that was a tough process to get us

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, you might have had tough cuts at

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Speaker 2: Your would be or want to be starters.

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Speaker 3: Look at the safety position, and we talk about Bullock

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Speaker 2: Well, who are your reserves?

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Speaker 2: But you have MJ.

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Speaker 2: And not all safeties are rated equal.

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Speaker 1: Maybe so two of those guys in that group are

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Speaker 1: You'll hear Drew and I's thoughts on that about this

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Speaker 2: It didn't work out that way. He's been dealing with injuries.

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Speaker 1: A top of injuries, but yesterday seeing him up close

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what Kenyan Green is doing.

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Speaker 5: Kenyan has done a really great job of putting himself

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited for what's a hit for Kenyan because

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Speaker 1: And that's the most important thing that we have talked

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Speaker 1: He's definitely done that when I saw him, and of

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Speaker 1: It would be nice, But just to see him out

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Speaker 3: Guess what year three, Like you pointed out, he goes fast. Yep,

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Speaker 2: But we don't have to worry about that right now.

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Speaker 3: And again, offensive lineman training camp, we'll see more and

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Speaker 2: Plays for an offensive guard in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: When I talk about offensive lineman, I said this last

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Speaker 1: tech SAgs I said the same thing. Just because he's

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying a better chat, but it gives

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Speaker 1: The Texans will be playing one of the more difficult

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Speaker 2: It's wild to me, really, I mean it really is.

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Speaker 5: more people get to see, you know, what we're about.

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Speaker 5: For me, it's all about, you know, our team going

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Speaker 5: out and playing great football. Whatever day we're scheduled to play,

442
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Speaker 5: whoever we're scheduled to play.

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Speaker 4: We just have to go out to be the best

444
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Speaker 4: team that day.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, and our fans are fired up and

446
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Speaker 5: excited about all the games that we get on national

447
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Speaker 5: national television.

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Speaker 4: It's good. It's good for the organization.

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Speaker 5: It's a good spot to be in the most national

450
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Speaker 5: televised games we've had, you know, as an organization. So

451
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Speaker 5: it is credit to everyone around this building, not just

452
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Speaker 5: the team, but everyone for the work that they put.

453
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Speaker 3: In going from all noon starts to this this national

454
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Speaker 3: showcase and heavily weighted in the back half of the season.

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Speaker 2: Fact check. Was he right, it's the most the most part.

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Speaker 2: Get the release, Johnny.

457
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Speaker 3: I think it's the release because I think it's going

458
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Speaker 3: into it absolutely and then you have layoffs and you

459
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Speaker 3: got to get there first.

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Speaker 2: We all know that. Too many people assume, oh, you're

461
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Speaker 2: gonna get ten wins, no problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just have to look down and see Stefan Diggs's name,

464
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Speaker 1: and it made me think he's got well, depends on

465
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Speaker 1: how you look at your brother. He's got revenge games

466
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Speaker 1: against the Bills, right, a revenge game against the Vikings, Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: and he's got a revenge game against his brother.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah. We have all three of those games games this year.

469
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Speaker 2: It's a great spot for him to be and only

470
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Speaker 2: one of those in prime time.

471
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Speaker 1: And get he gets to face the AFC East and

472
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Speaker 1: the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: I do like the perfect Steffan bigs schedule. I don't

474
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Speaker 2: know why that just hit me. They've got a lot

475
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Speaker 2: of tape on him, they certainly do.

476
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Speaker 3: I watched some practice yesterday and he was not out

477
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Speaker 3: there for that particular session, and I thought, you know what,

478
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Speaker 3: you go to battle with what they had yesterday, and

479
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Speaker 3: then you add Stefan Diggs to it, and you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: This could be really interesting. It'll be.

481
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Speaker 1: It will be very There's no doubt it's gonna get very,

482
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Speaker 1: very interesting. And OTA's over the next few days are

483
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Our business ops gets a chance to

484
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Speaker 1: go out there tomorrow, so we'll get a chance to

485
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Speaker 1: see it. We'll talk too much about it. We'll see

486
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Speaker 1: it tomorrow. That'll be fun because we're part of Business Ops.

487
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a great time. But Drew Dorty and

488
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Speaker 1: I had a chance to opine on our thoughts from

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Speaker 1: OTA number one, and that's next in the lab coming

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Speaker 1: at you right here in Texans All Access Taping. Everybody,

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497
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Speaker 1: out there tomorrow with our Business Ops group, which includes me,

498
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Speaker 1: John Harris football on out side of the.

499
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Speaker 2: Reporter, and Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be out there watching our second OTA practice

501
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Speaker 1: of the week. But we had to opine on the

502
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: first one through in the lap. Go check out the podcast.

503
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: You can listen to it right now.

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Speaker 6: OTAs were fun yesterday. I know you had some thoughts

505
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Speaker 6: and I was out there on the side. I saw

506
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Speaker 6: the fun little handshake that kind of it was fun

507
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Speaker 6: as far as the slaps and studded it with CJ.

508
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Speaker 2: Stroud.

509
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Speaker 6: But if you things stood out to me Tank Dell

510
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Speaker 6: was out there catching passes. There was I think probably

511
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Speaker 6: a belief by some that he might not be here

512
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Speaker 6: till training camp and all that stuff, even though the

513
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Speaker 6: idea was that he was fine, and he clearly was fine.

514
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Speaker 6: He was taking part, he was doing stuff. He was

515
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Speaker 6: out there, the rookies were mixing it up and number

516
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Speaker 6: seven CJ. Stroud doing what he does and it was

517
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Speaker 6: just a good spirited afternoon, early afternoon of work, and

518
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Speaker 6: my goodness, were one step closer to the ball and

519
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Speaker 6: one step closer to real, real football.

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Speaker 1: John one of the things that I noticed at rookie

521
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Speaker 1: mini camp, and I don't know if we talked about

522
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Speaker 1: rookie mincamp, and it wasn't much of a camp.

523
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Speaker 2: It was just an indoctrination for the rookies.

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Speaker 1: This is how he practiced the different periods because they

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Speaker 1: I think they had one offensive lineman, they had two

526
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Speaker 1: players in the secondary.

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Speaker 2: They may have had three defensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know. They could outfit at yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: quarterback that was just there on a tryout basis. So

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Speaker 1: I took out of that as I looked around and

531
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Speaker 1: I went, wait a second, Wow, look at these coach looks,

532
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Speaker 1: coaching staff. There's a lot of joy because they were

533
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Speaker 1: out there altogether. But they all, I say, all knew

534
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Speaker 1: each other. It's not one hundred percent the same as

535
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Speaker 1: it was last year. And there's some coaches that have

536
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Speaker 1: moved on, but in their place, there are very few

537
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Speaker 1: coaches that came from outside the building. You know, Rod

538
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Speaker 1: Wright went from the assistant D line coach to the

539
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Speaker 1: D line coach, and Elon knew him, and he knew

540
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Speaker 1: a lot in the D line already. You know, Billy

541
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Speaker 1: Davis comes over to coach linebackers. He's new, but you

542
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Speaker 1: know Vassil still coaching corners. Corey Engwin's back in a second.

543
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Speaker 1: You've got Steve Annagoke is also with the secondary. He stayed,

544
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Speaker 1: Rod's with the defensive line obviously, Demiko and Matt Burke offensively,

545
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Speaker 1: Gerrod and Bobby staying. You know, Bi Laser stayed a

546
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Speaker 1: lot of continuity. And I could tell the way that

547
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Speaker 1: practices were flowing and the way it was going that

548
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Speaker 1: you could just tell that continuity mattered.

549
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Speaker 2: It was really cool.

550
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Speaker 1: And so I saw that again, not only with the

551
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Speaker 1: coaching staff in particular, but with the players too.

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Speaker 2: There's continuity there.

553
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Speaker 1: These guys have been together, they know the drills that

554
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be doing, they know how they're supposed

555
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Speaker 1: to look, they know what they're supposed to do. It's

556
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Speaker 1: not a you know, a monkey in a football if

557
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And they're going about doing

558
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Speaker 1: things the way that I know that Demico wants them

559
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Speaker 1: to be able to do.

560
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Speaker 2: But there's just this.

561
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Speaker 1: Smoothness to practice because there's a there's continuity there.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the things that stood out to

563
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Speaker 2: me again yesterday.

564
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Speaker 1: That continuity breeds that that confidence and that success and

565
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Speaker 1: hopefully that continues. But yeah, I was good to see

566
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Speaker 1: the guys on the grass and there are a lot

567
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Speaker 1: of things that we kind of took. Yeah they're shorts

568
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Speaker 1: and T shirts, but the number of things that took

569
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Speaker 1: out of there. What was kind of your biggest takeaway?

570
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Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned ta tank, but what's kind of

571
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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway out of what you saw at Ota

572
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Speaker 1: is Drew.

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Speaker 6: Echoing a little bit of what you said, Uh, the continuity,

574
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Speaker 6: and sometimes continuity can be not a bad thing but

575
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Speaker 6: a stale thing.

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the case exactly exactly what.

577
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Speaker 6: You've got such a high quality of things going here,

578
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 6: and technically you are still and the Texans would never

579
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Speaker 6: say this ever, but you are technically still in a rebuild.

580
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Speaker 6: Despite being good last year, despite you know, doing what

581
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Speaker 6: you did, You're still trying to buttress this roster with

582
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Speaker 6: more talent and depth and whatnot. And you're still in

583
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Speaker 6: the think in the middle of that process, and they're

584
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Speaker 6: never going to be satisfied with it, right, But seeing

585
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Speaker 6: that continuity and that ease with which things flowed was

586
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Speaker 6: really really cool, And I was gonna, you know, just

587
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Speaker 6: stump you with a few, like randomly, these are random

588
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Speaker 6: little things. Xavier Hutchinson looks a lot bigger, you know,

589
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Speaker 6: like yoked up in a good sort of way. Yeah,

590
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Speaker 6: he was a rookie last year. He had been getting

591
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Speaker 6: ready for the draft, getting ready for the Combine, Pro

592
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Speaker 6: Day and stuff like that. He was not getting the

593
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Speaker 6: football reps and the readiness for playing on an NFL

594
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Speaker 6: field on Sundays. Well, he was this this spring and

595
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Speaker 6: this winter, and it shows he looks a little different

596
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Speaker 6: than he did some of the other guys you know

597
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Speaker 6: who who looked more yoked up to you or more

598
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Speaker 6: changed body wise to you this year versus last.

599
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Speaker 1: Well, I think there is an obvious candidate for that award,

600
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Speaker 1: and it's on the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: It's Kenyan Green. Yeah. And seeing Kenya, it's weird.

602
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Speaker 1: He's wearing seventy six, He's wearing long white sleeves.

603
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Speaker 2: He had the black wrist protectors.

604
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Speaker 1: I don't know but like almost like a wristband, but

605
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Speaker 1: they kind of help the wrist. That was Dwayne Brown's outfit. Yeah,

606
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what Dwayne Brown looked like. And I went,

607
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Speaker 1: what did double take?

608
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Speaker 2: I was like what?

609
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Speaker 1: And it just shows that he's starting to transform his body.

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Speaker 1: This is something that we talked about when we talked

611
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Speaker 1: about this, and that was probably in the lab episode

612
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: back in training camp. Oh my god, ken you Green

613
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Speaker 1: former first round of what's going on? And I said

614
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Speaker 1: right there, I said, look, he's got to fix what's wrong. Now,

615
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: broken this spring that torn this He's got to get

616
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Speaker 1: that fixed and rehabbed so that when you get to January,

617
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Speaker 1: you can build your body the way that it needs

618
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Speaker 1: to be and that's really exactly what has gone on.

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Speaker 1: They had to stop the train, let him get off. Look,

620
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Speaker 1: the train's gonna keep going. They'll stop again and you

621
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Speaker 1: can get back on. But he got off so he

622
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Speaker 1: could go rehab everything and then put his body back together.

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Speaker 1: And you look at him and go, Okay, that's what

624
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Speaker 1: an NFL body looks like.

625
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Speaker 2: And now you start getting your confidence back. Now.

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Speaker 1: I said this when I was on with my friends

627
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Speaker 1: down at College Station on Tech SAgs on Wednesday. I said,

628
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he can go out there and play.

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Speaker 1: Just because the guy got all chiseled up, doesn't mean

630
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Speaker 1: he's gonna go out there and be an all pro.

631
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Speaker 1: But it's encouraging because it's him. It is encouraging and

632
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Speaker 1: the fact that that's what we've been asking for because

633
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Speaker 1: we know he can play.

634
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Speaker 2: If you've watched him, you know he could play.

635
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Speaker 1: And even if you watch him with the Texans early

636
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: as a rookie, he had success, but he got hurt

637
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: against the Raiders and when he tried to play through it,

638
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Speaker 1: that's whence the issue started. He can play, and that's

639
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: the matter. We're gonna get confidence back to show everybody.

640
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Speaker 4: He can play.

641
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's important to remember he's still in the

642
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Speaker 6: embryonic stage of his career.

643
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Speaker 2: Man, he's entering year two basically.

644
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Speaker 6: Yes, I know it's legitimately year three, but he didn't

645
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 6: play last year, and like he said, he's been injured here.

646
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Speaker 6: He was injured from Raiders game October November of rookie

647
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Speaker 6: season through August of last year when it finally you know,

648
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Speaker 6: he when he when he got injured and got you know,

649
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Speaker 6: put on ir for pretty much for the entire year.

650
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Speaker 6: So you're entering year two. At best, he comes out

651
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Speaker 6: and starts. At worst, he gives you quality, high quality

652
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 6: of depth and competition right at a spot that really

653
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Speaker 6: now has a whole heck of a lot of competition,

654
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Speaker 6: because we saw him play there in the preseason, we

655
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Speaker 6: saw Juice Scruggs play there. In the regular season, we

656
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Speaker 6: saw by my blanking, okay, Jared Patterson was the center.

657
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 6: But he's somebody who can play guard, and we saw

658
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 6: a lot of different bodies there during that time, during

659
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 6: that during the last year and a half, He's somebody that,

660
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 6: at the worst case scenario, is going to really boost

661
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 6: boost that level of competition to a higher level job.

662
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, I don't want to say I

663
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: he's absolutely gonna start or anything like that. You don't

664
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: know because obviously, look he can get his body right

665
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: and he can sprain an ankle, and you know, those

666
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: things happen. You hate for somebody to be injury prone,

667
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: and I should say injury prone just you know, have

668
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: some bad luck. But I think I think Kenyan, dating

669
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: all the way back to his day's A and M,

670
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: I think he had some things that just he tried

671
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: to play through and when they just.

672
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Got admirable, yes, really admirable thing.

673
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it is totally and I think it was the

674
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: coaching staff and Nick Assario and the scouting staff. Everybody

675
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: organization has said, who wall stop music, listen, we just

676
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: have to fix this. You mentioned it. He's a young guy,

677
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: very young. I think he was twen he won when

678
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: he got here. So look, you just don't know. I mean,

679
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was asked on textagas and was reminding anything.

680
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: And it's funny because because David Dunio brought up Dwayne

681
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Brown and I said, yeah, I said yes, and no,

682
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: I said, Dwayne did struggle the first few years there

683
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: was not due to injuries.

684
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: It was just Wayne was a project.

685
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: He had to face all those things that he faced

686
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: and get past them to.

687
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: Show that he really could evolve.

688
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Into a Pro Bowl tackle, which he eventually did, and

689
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of credit for that and should

690
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: get a lot of credit for that.

691
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: Kenyans is more it's the injury. So to me, it

692
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: reminded me more of Clowney.

693
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: Clowney, you can take some time some of those things,

694
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: but the first two years it was micro fracturing fourteen.

695
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Then he came back from that, but he wasn't quite

696
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: where he needed to be or wanted to be in

697
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I remember he's in a locker room after

698
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: the playoff game in twenty fifteen and he said, I'm

699
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: going to wreck the league in twenty sixteen.

700
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Everybody was like, oh what is this? Did come on really?

701
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, that's a good sign. Let's

702
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: see if happens. And then he did. He had games

703
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen where he just took over the game

704
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: and needed to because there was no J. J.

705
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Watt.

706
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: It was Whitney and it it was Whitney merciless, and

707
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: it was Devan Clowney.

708
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: And he did there were teams that were scared of Clowney.

709
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: Now he was not always the sack guy, but because

710
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: of where Clowney played all over the place. I remember

711
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: that playoff game against the Patriots. He was incredible. So

712
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: it took a couple of years to get back to

713
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: past those injuries. And I don't know that jd ever

714
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: got where everybody thought he was because of some of

715
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: those injuries, but he got back to a point where

716
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: he could be a Pro Bowl defensive end and a

717
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl edge player still in the league and plucked

718
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: in a big check somewhere too.

719
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 6: And there are people that when he had the microfracture,

720
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 6: they're like, it just got three four years, that's right.

721
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: That is it? No chance? No chance? Whatsever He's proved

722
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: those people wrong. Yeah, I mean it's year eleven for

723
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: him in the league. It's remarkable. It really is remark Yeah.

724
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: Bearing off onto another.

725
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: Course, Okay, so that was the body transformation. Who was

726
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 6: a player who really kind of made.

727
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: You go like, h well, I didn't know what what?

728
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: Hey, some one of those not under the radar guys.

729
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 6: I just bumped something there, not one of those under

730
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 6: the radar guys, but somebody who has been here one

731
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: of the hey don't forget about me guys.

732
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: You and you and Mark Vandermier do this all the time.

733
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 6: Did you have any hey don't forget about me guys

734
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 6: that kind of bumped to the floor yesterday that you saw.

735
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: It's so hard because it's one practice.

736
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you know, John Metchie, you know you

737
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: brought it back. You know, John Metchie just looked more

738
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: fluid and everything. I'll say this and then I'll give

739
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you the guy. The guy actually have as a rookie,

740
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: So kind of twisting yours into a little bit into

741
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: the thought that this guy didn't look like a rookie.

742
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: He looked like he fit in. If you took the

743
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: names numbers off the jerseys, you would go, Okay, yeah,

744
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: that guy's you're starting tight end or you know, he's

745
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: your starting cornerback or whatever the case might be. But

746
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Metsi looked like a different He looked a different dude.

747
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: But Kate Stower made a couple of plays where you go, Okay,

748
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: that dude looks like he fits. Yeah, he definitely looks

749
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: like he fits, there's no question.

750
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 6: Which is still remarkable considering he's he was like a

751
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 6: defensive end.

752
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: And even more so the fact that he played I

753
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: don't know how long in this season, probably half the

754
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: season with mcl SI. You I say situation because I

755
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: don't know if it's torn, sprained, whatever. He just slapped

756
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 1: the brace on and kept playing. But he made some

757
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: really nice catches. Quarterbacks were looking him up. He did

758
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: not the balls around him. He snatched it and then

759
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: he turned up field and was like, Okay, this is

760
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for people. So it was good

761
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: to see him out there doing that because you weren't

762
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: totally full strength at tight end and seeing him do it,

763
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: you're like, he fits in. He doesn't look like a rookie.

764
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: He looks like he's been here a while. And that

765
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: was one of the first ones that kind of stood

766
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: out to me in that particularly roun I'm like, whoa,

767
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I'll give you.

768
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: One other ones receiver.

769
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: He made a catch on a sideline and I'm just

770
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: looking at him, thinking, you know, he got injured last year,

771
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: but that dude is six ' three.

772
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: He's like two ten.

773
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: Jared Wayne from out a pit who was on the

774
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: practice squad last year, come backed up off, big body, long,

775
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: good hands, can run a little bit. He's definitely a

776
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: guy you don't want to forget about. But it's tough

777
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: in that wide receiver position because you kind of work

778
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: your way through. And obviously Defon Diggs was not there yesterday.

779
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: So when he's there, God, and then when Tank is

780
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: back to one hundred percent full speed and one hundred

781
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: percent every single.

782
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: Play, how do you divvy up all the reps there?

783
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

784
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do all of that, but

785
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: I know this eighty seven Kate Stover, he stood out

786
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: for sure, absolutely stood out for sure as not.

787
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: A rookie, another weapon to add to the offense.

788
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 6: Okay, so how about for you, Well, I want to

789
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 6: backtrack actually and the Kenyan Green conversation we're having on

790
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 6: the sideline yesterday, I spent a good chunk of time,

791
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 6: probably about ten to fifteen minutes just chit chatting with

792
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 6: John McLean, yeah, of the Eastern Chronicle, and we kind

793
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 6: of meandered around, and I knew you.

794
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: Would appreciate this.

795
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 6: He he wasn't comparing anyone, but hearing that conversation and

796
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 6: hearing what you just said about Kenyan Green made me

797
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 6: think of what he was saying. But he was talking

798
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 6: about Haywood Jeffries, wide receiver taking out NC State back

799
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 6: in eighty seven in the first round. The GM who

800
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 6: took him was saying his name wrong the day that

801
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: they took him, and he was saying the name of

802
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 6: a guy who'd played in the ANFL. And then Jefferies

803
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 6: didn't really do too much as a rookie, didn't do

804
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 6: too much, or he was injured or both one or

805
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 6: the other in eighty eight in his second year, and

806
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: so everyone was calling him a bust. And then the

807
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 6: guy unleashed in eighty nine and was a Pro Bowl

808
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 6: caliber receiver for the next you know, six seven years.

809
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 6: He was a fantastic oiler, a great, great player. Who's

810
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 6: to say that zapples and oranges. It's different positions, different times,

811
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 6: different teams. Who's to say that Kenyon Green can't be

812
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 6: like a Hey with Jefferson. Who's to say that in

813
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 6: year three as a wide receiver with the Houston Texans,

814
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: John Metchi can't have a big breakout year. It's just important.

815
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 6: And McClain's point was, I never call anyone a bust

816
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: after a rookie season. No, you can't us after a

817
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: second season because I always go back to being right,

818
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 6: being a Dummian saying that about Jeffes and the guy,

819
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 6: you know, the guy the guy was I'm paraphrasing, but hey,

820
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 6: it just took a little bit of time. And when

821
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 6: there's countless stories throughout sports history, throughout human history, Harry

822
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: Truman as a president, he was the.

823
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean, the tough thing. The tough thing was that

824
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: last year. And yes, I just compared to Kenyon Green

825
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: circuitously that Harry Truman. That was very well done.

826
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: The thing is and what makes it tough is and

827
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: and you almost have to look at last year's rookie

828
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: class as an outlier because those guys came in and

829
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: adapted so quickly and we're at a different level. Two

830
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: of them win Rookie of the Year and the other

831
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: one would have made the NFL Rookie team if he

832
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: had stayed healthy. Like, just don't have that, that that

833
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: was abnormal. You don't have that. Uh, And teams that

834
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: are looking for their quarterback to be CJ. Stroud, like,

835
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, good luck. These guys are talented, but man,

836
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: things really came together for CJ on a lot of

837
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: different levels. But to expeck that out of a rookie class.

838
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's we've seen rookies have success. I mean

839
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: even JJ. You think back to JJ's rookie year, how

840
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: did you how'd you feel about JJ after the twenty

841
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: eleventh season, you felt like, okay, there's something there. But

842
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: did you see twenty sacks coming in NFL Defensive Player

843
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: of the Year in twenty twelve.

844
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

845
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: If I don't, I don't know if you, if people

846
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: are being honest, would have said that.

847
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: I think we all thought this guy's a really good player.

848
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: He's going to be a really good player. Thin give

849
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: it this way, think of it this way.

850
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 6: November thirtieth of twenty eleven, if you say, hey, JJ Watts,

851
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 6: season's over right now, how would you grade it out?

852
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 6: You'd probably say he's a fine player. You know, he's

853
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: clearly he's got something he can play, right, That's what

854
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 6: you would say. Yeah, Well, and you see what he

855
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 6: did in December, and wow, he's he's really going to

856
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 6: be somebody that we can count on. And and he

857
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: he could be a pro bowler down the line, and

858
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 6: you get into January. In those two playoff games that

859
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 6: he played in January were the stuff a legend, not

860
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 6: just the pick six game, but the next week he

861
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 6: said the best game he ever played. And this was

862
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 6: in like twenty eighteen when I did something with him

863
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 6: in an interview. He said that game, the loss at

864
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 6: the Ravens, the best game he ever was a part of.

865
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: And that's one of his best wowerformers is Yeah. So yeah,

866
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 6: coming off the the totality of twenty eleven and the playoffs,

867
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 6: oh man, he's he's going to be pretty good. But

868
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 6: you could never ever, like you're saying, predict how he

869
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 6: was going to be a comet.

870
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in twelve Yeah, and go to fifteen

871
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: colotely holy cow level. Yeah, he loved it. You know,

872
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 2: it's tough.

873
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: So the point with that, and McLean's point is give

874
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: give some guys time and look over time.

875
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: It's and I've heard a lot about you know Jalen

876
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: Petrie too. You know Jalen.

877
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: It goes the other way too. You know, Jalen had

878
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: a very very productive first year. He relied upon it,

879
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things and came back in

880
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: year two asked or put in a different kind of

881
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: safety role, safety position that he really didn't play at Baylor.

882
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: At Baylor, he was kind of more of a pseudo

883
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: linebacker strong safety type and now he's being asked to

884
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: do something different. So it took him a while to

885
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: adapt to a point where he gets out of that

886
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: Browns game where it didn't go well for him, and

887
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: then he finished up pretty strong. And look, there are

888
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: a couple of plays in that Ravens game that are

889
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: oh so close in Jalen's hands that could have changed

890
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: the game. And I guarantee you, knowing Jaylen Petrie, those

891
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: are the kind of things that he thought about all offseason.

892
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: Got to make those plays.

893
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: And speaking of bodies, I looked I thought he actually

894
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: had slimmed down a little bit because he seemed to

895
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: be moving very very well, Yeah, very very well, but

896
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: he just seemed a little bit a little slimmer, which, look,

897
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: in this defense, you gotta move, you got to go.

898
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: So it was kind of interesting to see him.

899
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: But you know, that's another guy because year one was

900
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: so good, he raised the expectation level, and then year

901
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: two not so good. Look, you don't give up on

902
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: a guy. You don't give up on a guy like

903
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: that at all. You let that thing play out, and

904
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: you let him play it out and I got a

905
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: feeling Jam the Peecher's gonna have a pretty solid year

906
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: this year.

907
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 6: I am lockstep with you on that, and I think

908
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 6: he's gonna be just fine, and he's gonna be a

909
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 6: very big part of this defense and part of this team.

910
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: Clearly, I mean he's important.

911
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Guess he is very very important. All you are important

912
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: for listening to our podcast. Go check it out and

913
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: check out the YouTube video of that. You check out

914
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: our YouTube of Case Keenum the Mark, and I did

915
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: check out in the Lab YouTube podcast. And there's so

916
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: many different ways to consume content nowadays. Appreciate you guys

917
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: just doing it however you're doing it. You're doing it.

918
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Speaker 1: We really appreciate that. Thank you very very much. All Right,

919
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Speaker 1: the Spring meetings are going on in Nashville. There's a

920
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: bunch of news that's come out of those meetings. Will

921
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: hit some of that next, including Adam Schefter's contention he

922
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: is very sure about something that might happen to not

923
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: only your Texans, but thirty one other NFL teams. Will

924
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: discuss that next right here on Texans All Access were

925
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Speaker 1: one final segment of this Wednesday edition of Texans All

926
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Speaker 1: Access I'm your host, John Harris, football analy a sideline

927
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans.

928
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, we'll have John McClain on with us.

929
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: We got plenty to talk about with him, including some

930
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: of the news that we're about to discuss right here.

931
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Speaker 1: A lot has been made about international scheduling and over

932
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. In fact, I think it

933
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: was yesterday was the first time I saw this that

934
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: Australia has now gotten in the mix for the NFL.

935
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: This is something obviously we'll talk about with John tomorrow,

936
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: but it does appear as if Australia would like to

937
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: have an NFL game, and I am all for it,

938
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: and I am all for the Texans taking a trip

939
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: to Australia to play an NFL game, even that being

940
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: a long flight. Never been to Australia, would love to go.

941
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: That would be fantastic. But now it sounds like Australia

942
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: is getting in the mix. We've already gotten Brazil in

943
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: a mix in twenty twenty four, London's been in the mix,

944
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: and the UK has been in the mix for a while.

945
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: Germany has now been in for the last few years.

946
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Mexico City was the original and they're fixing up a

947
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: studio Steca for World Cup and to get it up

948
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: to World Cup standards. They're also doing it obviously so

949
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: the NFL can go back down there. My guess is

950
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: the Texans will end up going to Mexico City when

951
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: that stadium is ready and available. In fact that the

952
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Texans have to give up a home game, I think

953
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: that's would end up being where the Texans will go to.

954
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: The Texans have never had to do that. They've never

955
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: had to give up a home game for an international

956
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: setting when they've gone to Mexico City. Like we did

957
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, we were the visiting team, the Raiders

958
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: the home team. We went to London in twenty nineteen,

959
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were the home team, And obviously the Jaguars

960
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: will continue their relationship with London.

961
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: With Wembley.

962
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: That I think is gonna stick going forward, and how

963
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: much more we'll see. But they're at least playing that

964
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: two game stretch where I think they've got the Bears

965
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: one week and then they play Gosh, I can't forgot

966
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: who they the second game is, but they've got two games.

967
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: It's the Bills. I think it might be the bills. Well, no,

968
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: that those bills went to London. Sure that I can't

969
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: remember who it is.

970
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: But they've got they've got back to back games over there.

971
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Like when we played them last year, we played them

972
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: in Week three, they went weeks four and five over

973
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: to London. Will that end up being the case for

974
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: any other teams in the NFL? Will you see more

975
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: teams playing two games in the same spot. Don't know,

976
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: But Adam Schefter was on a podcast and he said

977
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: that it is an I paraphrase more likely than not.

978
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: But in the near future, every single NFL team will

979
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: play an international game every year. So it's not a

980
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: matter of oh are we going to it's going to

981
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: be where are we going in?

982
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: What week is that game?

983
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: Now? They're gonna have be some things there, going to

984
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: have to figure out how can they get multiple games

985
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: over there, How can they squeeze it into like a

986
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: week four week, I don't know, eleven sort of situation

987
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: that those are the weeks where teams are traveling to

988
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: avoid holidays and things like that over there overseas wherever

989
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I mean, you might have multiple international

990
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: games going at once. You might have a game you

991
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: might have a weekend where you've got a game because

992
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: of time differences. You might have a game in Brazil,

993
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: you might have a game in London, you might have

994
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: a game in Australia, and you can get them all

995
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: on in the weekend. Just that's how the calendar works out.

996
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really know internationally how that

997
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: could all work. But Adam Schefter does think there is

998
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: a time in which the that every NFL team in

999
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: the league will play an international game every year. And

1000
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I got a feeling if that does happen for the

1001
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Texas Mexico city, that's gonna be that's gonna be in

1002
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: in the ballpark for sure, for nominally Texas, but maybe

1003
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: a few others to make the trip a little bit easier,

1004
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: et cetera. So there's a lot of talk about that

1005
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: eighteenth game. I've said, and I've said this for a

1006
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: little bit. Hey, I think that eighteenth game the international.

1007
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: Make the eighteenth game the international game. Could add some

1008
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: spice to it. They added that seventeenth game a few

1009
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: years ago, and now they can add an eighteenth game

1010
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: and make that truly and totally international. One thing that

1011
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: has not gone international is the draft. The draft will

1012
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty five in green Bay. They're already preparing.

1013
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: My parents live about forty five minutes north of Green Bay.

1014
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: They're already getting ready, she said in wisconsin' they're ready

1015
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: for it.

1016
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: They're preparing for it. I don't know how it's gonna

1017
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: be in Green Bay.

1018
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: Detroit's got a great downtown area where they could put

1019
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: everybody and it fit well. We'll see how green Bay

1020
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: configures it, but I think they got a plan. Well,

1021
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: the next city that is going to have to come

1022
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: up with a plan or maybe already has presented to

1023
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. It was accepted. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, will be the

1024
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: host of the twenty twenty sixth draft that was announced

1025
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: at the spring meeting. So Detroit this paslast year, which

1026
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: was fantastic to watch on television and see the support

1027
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: that it got. Twenty twenty five will be up in

1028
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Twenty twenty six will be in Pittsburgh. What

1029
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: do you notice about all those places places you probably

1030
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: can't have a super Bowl. Now Detroit can because it

1031
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: can go inside, but you're not really putting super Bowls

1032
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: in northern cities. So in lieu of that, what are

1033
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: they getting. They're getting the draft. It's not a bad

1034
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: consolation prize, be better to have a super Bowl. But

1035
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: they're getting mostly the draft. So it goes from Detroit

1036
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: to green Bay to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh gets the twenty twenty

1037
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: six NFL Draft. All right, that's gonna do it for

1038
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: the show. Big thanks to Mark, Thanks to Demico. Got

1039
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: a chance to hear those cuts as we did our

1040
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: Texans audio at Jukebox earlier. Big thanks to Drew Free

1041
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: in the lab. So all you for listening. My guys

1042
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: back at Sports AREO six ten. You are the best.

1043
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow buddy, and as always, go Texans,