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Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 2: and inquiries can be sent to desantisprad at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: The John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of it. I

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Speaker 3: guess they liked us. Say that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: They like you, man. I mean the comments, you know

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Speaker 4: exactly how they feel about me.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 5: That's okay because I'll tell you the Patriots win the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl in two weeks, I'm gonna be a complete

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Speaker 5: good day.

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Speaker 4: So if you don't like me, now, oh just wait, the.

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Speaker 6: Patriots are super Bowl champs once again. Patriots fans, this

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Speaker 6: is your six championship for the last eighteen years. Truly

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Speaker 6: an unprecedented accomplishment, really managed by exceptional players and coaches to.

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Speaker 2: Loom all of us forever grateful.

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Speaker 6: But there is one constant throughout this only eighteen years,

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Speaker 6: two men who are the best of whatever's been done.

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Speaker 2: John Annak and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Ah with that lovely backdrop TJ. DeSantis putting in the

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Speaker 5: overtime on a Championship Monday.

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Speaker 4: Here we are.

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Speaker 5: If you do have young children who listen to the

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Speaker 5: Anak and Florian podcast, we do appreciate that. I just

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Speaker 5: want to preface the show by saying this might not

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Speaker 5: be the episode for them. It is Monday, February four,

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, episode one eighty nine of the Anak and

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Speaker 4: Less than twenty four hours.

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Speaker 5: Ago, the New England Patriots won their six Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: championship can Flow thirteen to three over the Los Angeles Rams,

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Speaker 5: And this time, goddamn it.

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Speaker 3: I was in the building, kid, dude, unbelievable. I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about you probably throughout the whole game, thinking that, man,

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Speaker 3: this guy is gonna be here for a Super Bowl win.

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Speaker 3: Just insane. And you're a John Annick over under three

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Speaker 3: times that TJ. Desant just had to throw up while

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Speaker 3: putting together that intro.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, and TJ might as well bring you

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Speaker 5: into this as the non Bostonian in our company. I mean,

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Speaker 5: did you watch the entirety of the game? Did you

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Speaker 5: see bits and pieces? Where does your hatred of the

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Speaker 7: I'm so jaded on the NFL because the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 7: are terrible and just career chokers. But I caught bits

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Speaker 7: and pieces of the game.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I appreciate greatness.

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Speaker 7: And I would be lying if I said that Tom Brady,

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Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, the whole crew in New England, if they

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Speaker 7: weren't great, they're great. So yeah, I mean, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: I'm jealous as hell, but I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I did get a little fist bump from your ex

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Speaker 5: Minnesota Viking number ninety three in your program, John Randall,

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Speaker 4: By the way, TJ, and I thought of you. So

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Speaker 4: I drove home through the night.

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Speaker 5: If I sound like gobbage, that's why so and I

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Speaker 5: want to say the podcast listeners wishing me a safe

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Speaker 5: drive home, knowing that I had nine hours and six

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Speaker 5: But it's made even sweeter, Kenny by all these naysayers, right,

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Speaker 5: I know people don't want to hear this from Patriots fans,

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Speaker 4: I don't know about all those people. I'm having a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I know you haven't slept much kids, so I

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Speaker 3: to win a world championship in any sport is a

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Speaker 3: not an easy thing to do. When you look at

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Speaker 3: as many times as they have. That's when you got

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Speaker 3: And that's what you should be looking for. Is what

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Speaker 3: the hell is Belichick doing over there in New England.

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Speaker 3: You know, how many hours is he spending looking at tape?

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Speaker 3: just seen it all. So it's almost like he's only

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Speaker 3: gonna get better. I mean, good luck beating that guy

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Speaker 5: Really is man sixty six years old oldest coach to

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Speaker 4: We've had this conversation before.

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Speaker 5: The problem is he's such a matter of fact guy

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Speaker 5: by the way, but few people like you still sign

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Speaker 5: for that. But Atlanta, Georgia, right in terms of this

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Speaker 5: five percent of the locals in Atlanta are pleasant, they're friendly,

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Speaker 5: you know, I hadn't been to Atlanta for four years,

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Speaker 3: I got the chills. Man. It was just a beautiful setting,

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Speaker 4: It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: It was so an amazing night.

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Speaker 5: And again just to tie the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know,

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Speaker 5: The facts are what they are. Six titles, New England thirteen,

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Speaker 5: been a lot meaner. I know, you class up this

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Speaker 3: I agree, man, I agree. I was ready for Annik

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Speaker 3: don't need to watch the sports ever again, we're good less.

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Speaker 4: Than one hundred days ago. The fucking Red Sox.

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Speaker 5: It's like, can we hang our banner before you guys

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Speaker 5: put another one up in Foxboro, Massachusetts? You know, exciting times. Man,

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Speaker 5: My sixty seven year old mother was in the building

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Speaker 5: on Saturday night. It's a beautiful thing. Sunday night. I

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Speaker 5: guess it was Super Bowl Sunday, right. A lot to

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Speaker 5: And then, of course you have C two thirty four

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Speaker 3: A doubt, man, And look at the performances that he's had.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the most dangerous fighters in the UFC

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt. Listen, you look at him and his

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Speaker 3: He did not. He decided to go and fight a

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean he's managed his body and his career

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Speaker 5: Obviously we'll have a lot on the King of Rio

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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 3: And I have a hole. That's what I watched.

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Speaker 2: The Ray Longo minute during Ray long the John Nick

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Speaker 5: So we had to push Ray Longo back fifteen minutes

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty three. We appreciate your patience. Man. What's

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Speaker 8: Oh man? Beautiful day in New York like sixty degrees. Man,

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Speaker 5: Yet, I guess it's a beautiful day in New York

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Speaker 4: But I would think for a lot of people in

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Speaker 5: Of those days where you got the head fucking down

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Speaker 4: Tomo sick.

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Speaker 8: Congratulations, guys, I've heard because anybody that was teaching today

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Speaker 5: I just am losing followers and supporters by the minute.

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Speaker 5: I just I can't contain myself. You know, I think

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Speaker 5: And it's just it's it's unleashed. So we were talking

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Speaker 4: Pal.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's an unbelievable performance. Unbelievable, But I think Marlin's

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Speaker 8: watch now, man, I mean, nobody has ever done anything

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Speaker 8: I mean, he got him out of there pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: Ray I agree, man, Listen, there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: But do you think he's the guy to go out

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Speaker 8: I think he beat TJ. For first off, I'm starting

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Speaker 8: I would have said absolutely not. But he seems to

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 5: His record since aligning with Mark Henry is absurd. I

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Speaker 5: know there's the split decision loss to Hope Alasansa that

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Speaker 5: he just avenged. I don't even know if there's another

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Speaker 4: Dude, that's the can flow go to?

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Speaker 5: You get like the knockout and the submission, right, You

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Speaker 9: Know, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 8: This this boss, this, this this super Bowl really charged

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Speaker 8: him up? Can the guy is that?

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Speaker 10: It?

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Speaker 4: Can?

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Speaker 3: Try me?

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Speaker 8: I feel you know, I have as I listened to you,

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Speaker 8: I feel bad you had to actually hold this in

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Speaker 8: must have been dying for five hours. What were you

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you, Ray, I drove nine hours, six

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Speaker 4: Man, that was a big one, you know.

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Speaker 8: For I gotta tell you, Kenny, did you catch the

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Speaker 8: a little cocaine, some drink, and it was what kind

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Speaker 8: of what kind of natural thing is mansterenergy?

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Speaker 3: That was?

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Speaker 8: This is a couple of ye Marsterenity Baby, I was.

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Speaker 8: I was so happy for the win.

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Speaker 10: What's going on, Kenny?

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Speaker 8: What's going on over?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what it sounded like. All the

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, if you were real, if you you could

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Speaker 5: Hey, just just ask Ken flow Niasin is really good

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Speaker 5: for you in heavy doses of nyasin. Well, I'm glad

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Speaker 5: we're not on video anymore because I could be, you know,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, your pupils are dilated right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm telling you right.

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Speaker 5: how you drove there, and it's like you're on a

437
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Speaker 5: need to know basis, honey, And remember.

438
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Speaker 8: You did you do that right by yourself.

439
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Speaker 5: No, my twin brother was there, but he he drank

440
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 5: too much at the Super Bowl, so he wasn't any

441
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 5: help until six thirty am when the sun came in.

442
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 4: He did the final nine way man. Thanks check.

443
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, by the way, great picture you put up on Instagram.

444
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,959
Speaker 8: What a great picture, thanks man.

445
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Speaker 5: It's funny because my twin brother is very he's a

446
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 5: you know, he's a modest guy. He's kind of a

447
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 5: private guy, and so I never post pictures of him.

448
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 5: I mean, Ken Flow has met him, obviously, but most

449
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 5: people don't know that I have have an identical twin.

450
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 5: So when they saw that picture, I think people were

451
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 5: really put off by it. They felt like my twin

452
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 5: brother looked more like me than I look like me,

453
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 5: and yeah, pretty wild for people, but thank you.

454
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 8: It put me in that category. I was totally confused.

455
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 8: I wasn't sure if you were joking around or he

456
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 8: just it was like a photoshop. But that was a great,

457
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 8: great pick.

458
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 5: Well, when you meet him and you hear him and

459
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 5: the mannerisms, it's even worse. For lack of a better,

460
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 5: it's pretty annoying. I mean, imagine two of us. It's

461
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 5: just way too much. So r a couple of things

462
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 5: before we let you go, And again we appreciate the

463
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Speaker 5: primetime appearance tonight on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. So Jose

464
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 5: Aldo right, so even at the super Bowl this weekend,

465
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 5: I'm getting asked by people, you know, who's your favorite fighter?

466
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 4: Right?

467
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 5: It's probably my least favorite question, but a lot of

468
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 5: times I go to Jose Aldo, right, and I think

469
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: he showed you why this weekend. I'm not gonna say

470
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 5: that he's all the way back and the champion, Max

471
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 5: Holloway in this division is certainly a problem for him.

472
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: But this type of run and this type of tenacity

473
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 5: and speed, I'm not sure that people thought we would

474
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 5: get this out of Aldo at this stage of his career.

475
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 5: And what a moment for the King of Rio over

476
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 5: the weekend.

477
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 8: Right, Oh, let me tell you. I'm I'm on that

478
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 8: Vandwig and I didn't think he could do it, but

479
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 8: you know why, man, this guy deserves a shot at something.

480
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 8: He really does. I look, I think Colloway's obviously his kryptonite,

481
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 8: but I got it.

482
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 10: You know.

483
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 8: It's funny because but when the announced the fight, I

484
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 8: was like, I'm probably don't want my conno, And then

485
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 8: I as they were highlighting and they showed him against

486
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 8: Jemmy Stevens, who's no slouch, who was a big punch,

487
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 8: and he got rid of him. And I'm like, you

488
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 8: know why the Galdo is gonna win? You know what

489
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 8: I mean, Like just that little I forgot about that fight.

490
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 8: So I agree with you, man, it's not easy when

491
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 8: the guy loses the way he does to Aldo to

492
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 8: come back with these type of really really dominant performances

493
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 8: is saying something. Man, he deserves he deserves another shot.

494
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 8: I really believe that. And whether it's McGregor or or

495
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 8: I just think Halloway is too much for him because

496
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 8: Halloway the volume, and he's got an insane shin and

497
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 8: he just throws too many punches. But I think Halloway's

498
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 8: just got his number. But I'll tell you what, man,

499
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 8: that was a great fight.

500
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Speaker 3: Fan.

501
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 8: Mikeno's not Joe. Jeremy Stevens is a tough guy and

502
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 8: he's he and he looks different like he's not winning.

503
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 8: He's he's going for it. Even when he was chasing

504
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 8: him around. Man, that was if possessed. Yes, he's just

505
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 8: after you lose. We will see it with champions who

506
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 8: can't even win the fight, you know, after you know

507
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 8: they lose. So this is the day I really give

508
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 8: it up to the guy, and I agree with you.

509
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 8: He deserves. I think he is back. He's back to

510
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 8: whatever extent. But put it this way, I believe he's

511
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 8: back to whatever extent he was when he lost. Can

512
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 8: he does that mean he could beat Halloween? I don't know,

513
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 8: but he no. I think he deserves a shot, he

514
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 8: really does. I think he's proven it so like he's

515
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 8: got two decision wins and he was, you know, getting

516
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 8: clipped and something. Nice guy looks like he's on fire man. Yeah,

517
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 8: I'm really I was a happy there's a feel good

518
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 8: moment with that guy.

519
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

520
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: I think you put it well.

521
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 5: And Kenny, I'll give you a chance on the back

522
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 5: end obviously to talk about what is next for Jose Aldo.

523
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: But best visual in MMA for me, other than maybe

524
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 5: Bigfoot Silva dancing on his way to the octagons, Jose

525
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 5: Aldolo jumping the fence and running into the crowd in Brazil.

526
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 5: You know, I was there when he did it for

527
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: the Mendes fight several years ago.

528
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 4: The dude's just awesome.

529
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of us know how good

530
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 5: a man that is and are very happy for for

531
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Speaker 5: Jose Aldo.

532
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 8: And they look like he did a Kabem sidekick when

533
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 8: he came a yeah, only nobody said was on the

534
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 8: other end of it. But besides that, it looked great.

535
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 5: All right, we'll get you out of here on this.

536
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 5: You are plus one hundred dollars after a success whole

537
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 5: hit on Marlon but Ice. This weekend, UFC two thirty four,

538
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 5: Robert Whittaker versus Kelvin Gasolin for the UFC Midaway Championship.

539
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 5: I know you will be watching this one closely. I

540
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 5: know these guys have both been on your radar at

541
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 5: different times. Right now, Robert Whitaker is about a two

542
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 5: and a half to one favorite or so. So if

543
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 5: you pick Whittaker and he wins, you get a hundred dollars.

544
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 5: If you think Gastolm wins and you get that right,

545
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 5: you get two hundred dollars Whittaker or Gasoline for you.

546
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 4: And how do they get it done?

547
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 8: I say, I'm going with gastolone and he stops.

548
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 5: Them Gasoline by TK. I felt like he'd go in

549
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 5: that direction. That's why we up the Annie so.

550
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 8: Bit. I just I think he runs through everybody, and uh,

551
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 8: I think if you don't, I don't know. I don't

552
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 8: know why. I like Helter I always did. It was

553
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 8: always high. I mean, I really love winneck taking against anybody,

554
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 8: but I'm gonna go with Gastallon.

555
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: Man.

556
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Speaker 8: I think he gets it done, even though it's in Australia.

557
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it runs through everybody except your guy. Huh.

558
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I think the big wrestling guys are

559
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 8: always going to be a problem for him. But these

560
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 8: are two guys that came up from one seventy to

561
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 8: one eighty five. So he's going to be fighting a

562
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 8: guy that you know, isn't isn't the bigger, you know, like,

563
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 8: isn't that much bigger than him? And I think that

564
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 8: I don't know, man, he's tough, you know. If he

565
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 8: gets you in trouble unlike you know Romero did with him,

566
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 8: I do believe he'll find of shit.

567
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: All right, my man, we'll let you get back to it.

568
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: Thanks for the uh the extended time, and uh we

569
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: will talk to you. I guess it'll be probably next

570
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 5: Tuesday when I get back from Australia, but uh, we

571
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: look forward to it. And uh it's fight fight we

572
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: for Alja man Sterling at Phoenix. So a lot to

573
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 5: get to next week, my man, beer Ois.

574
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 8: And take his ARONX really come down.

575
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I know.

576
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 8: I have one if I think his Ironix please.

577
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: More of an upper guy. Isn't that a downer?

578
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 8: Well? Yeah, I want to get you a level back

579
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 8: this point speaking full at this point control.

580
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: I know I'm not going to listen back to this one.

581
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: I'll see about.

582
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: Have a good week, Raymond Peter Longo with us every

583
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: week on the Anakin Florent podcast. Hopefully he didn't hear

584
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 5: my email pop up there? I mean, am I all

585
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: over the joint today?

586
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: Ken flow?

587
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: Or what I mean? Kind of? Sort of? Did I

588
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: did hear it?

589
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 5: I did not my best work. This is not for

590
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 5: the demo, real folks, all right. Jose Aldo defeats Anatomykano

591
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: by TKO forty four seconds into round two. We talked

592
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: a lot about the performance, obviously, so what do you

593
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: do now?

594
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: Right?

595
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: Because for me, I felt short changed by those thirteen

596
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: seconds between Connor McGregor and jose Aldo, right, all the

597
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: build up, all the preamble for a fight that, as

598
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: great as it was for Connor, didn't even happen in

599
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: a lot of respects, right, So we didn't even think

600
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: this was a possibility, I guess, unless jose Aldo came

601
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 5: out and dusted a guy in Hanato Moykano inside of

602
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: six minutes, a guy and Moikana who people thought he

603
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 5: could be next for Max Holloway. So, given the series

604
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: with Aldo and Holloway, the decisive two nil advantage for Max.

605
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 5: Given the fact that Connor McGregor doesn't have a fight

606
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 5: on the books, what is your appetite for a rematch

607
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 5: between Connor McGregor and Jose Aldo.

608
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I do want to get back to the performance

609
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: because I have a completely different take to take it.

610
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: But but I do let me answer. Let me answer

611
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: you first, because I want to address your question. It's

612
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: important one as far as what he did. The win

613
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: itself awesome. He beat moy Kano, who is extremely tough. Now,

614
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: I proposed this last year and I said I would

615
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 3: love to see Connor McGregor and Jose Aldo fight at

616
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five pounds, and I think that

617
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: fight is back to getting made. I really do. I think.

618
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: I think I couldn't agree with you more that we

619
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: were kind of robbed, right, Okay, Connor might have beaten

620
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo, but thirteen seconds, we really didn't get to

621
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: see that back and forth. And you know, I think

622
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, we would love to see it,

623
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: you know, perhaps even even in Brazil or Ireland. I

624
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: think that's a fight that does make a lot of sense.

625
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: I think Jose Aldo is pretty sick of making one

626
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five pounds unless it's for a title.

627
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor isn't coming back down to one hundred and

628
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: forty five pounds, that's for sure, and I think I

629
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: think it makes most sense. You'll get those guys at

630
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: one hundred percent at both of their potentially the best

631
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: weight classes fighting and we get to see, you know,

632
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: hopefully longer than thirteen seconds. I think it'd be a

633
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: fascinating fight. Now. In regards to the performance, Moi Kano

634
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: is a very very tough guy. I thought that Jose

635
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: Aldo was going to win it. I thought that Josie

636
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: Aldo was just gonna be a little bit too fast,

637
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: a little bit too well rounded, too much experience, too good,

638
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: and he proved he proved me to be right. However,

639
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: I did not like the finish. I don't think this

640
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: is a Joe Aldo that is in his prime. Again,

641
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: to me, I didn't see that, listen. I just think

642
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: he's that much better than Moykano. I think mo Kano's good.

643
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: I think Jose Aldo is that much better. But I

644
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: don't like when a part when when a when a

645
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: fighter leads with his chin like he did to me.

646
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: It kind of had shades of what happened with Aaron

647
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: Pico in his last fight, where he got a little

648
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: too aggressive, and you get a guy like a Max

649
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: Holloway or Connor McGregor who could sit back and throw

650
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: that counter shot. The same thing's gonna happen at Jose Aldo.

651
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: And I love I love the spirit. I love that

652
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: fighting spirit that he showed, that killer instinct of going

653
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: forward and wanting to not only beat moy Kano, but

654
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: destroy him and knock his head off. But it's that

655
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: kind of emotional aspect to Jose Aldo's game that made

656
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: him susceptible to that Connor McGregor shot and to lose

657
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: against you know guys like Max Holloway. Now you're talking

658
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: about elite, elite, you know Hall of Fame type fighters.

659
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo is one of them as well. But I

660
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: don't know. Again, I think if you go back and

661
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: you watch joseh Aldo and the WEC and yes, was

662
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: he aggressive for sure, But he did it because he

663
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: saw something. He didn't just rush forward for the sake

664
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: of rushing forward and against Moi Kano when he got

665
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: him hurt. I think he could have been a little

666
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: bit more patient and a little bit better protected. And

667
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: people are gonna look at us and go, oh, Kady's

668
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: hating on jose Aldo. No, I'm seeing a weakness there.

669
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a vulnerability where jose Aldo can be even

670
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: better and less susceptible to getting knocked out. Because again,

671
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, I don't care what

672
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: you've done. If you're leading with your chin, you might

673
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: not face that person who takes advantage of it, but

674
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: someone will eventually, and we have seen it before and

675
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm afraid that we will see it again if jose

676
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: Aldo doesn't quite fix that. Could he have gone and

677
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: knocked out mo Kano in a safer manner. Absolutely, And

678
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: that's what we're trying to do with fighters, is just

679
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: look at ways to improve. So to me, the win

680
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: was awesome. The performance, I'm not so excited as everybody else.

681
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 5: No, I think you hit on a lot of salient

682
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 5: points that I even remember vaguely.

683
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: Ten or eleven fights ago.

684
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: When you fought Joseado, it was that high, tight guard

685
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: as he moved forward to kick, but it just seemed

686
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: like defensively. You're right, he was in a different position

687
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: even when he was getting offensive. So yeah, I think

688
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 5: you make a lot of good points there. So as

689
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: for what is next for Joseado, I think we can

690
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 5: all agree that he has set himself up for a

691
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: massive next fight. Here in twenty nineteen he had suggested

692
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: a fight with Anthony Showtime Pettis at one hundred and

693
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: fifty five pounds prior to the Moikano fight. So Aldo

694
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: obviously has the appetite for that fight to happen. Maybe

695
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 5: in Koodi Chiba at UFC two thirty seven. I think

696
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: it is May eleventh, if I'm not mistaken, So I

697
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: think that fight would have some legs. That's obviously a

698
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: fight that was bandied about in the past as a

699
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 5: sort of super fight of sourts between those two guys,

700
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 5: Brian or Tega expressing his interest in a fight with Joseado.

701
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: I think that one at featherweight makes a lot of

702
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: sense and as a fresh matchup. And then of course

703
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 5: there's Condor McGregor. I think there are three names there,

704
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 5: and I think his next opponent is gonna come out

705
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: of that mix, and it'll probably be in Cody Cheep.

706
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: It'll be a home game for the King of Real.

707
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: I agree. And again, I think prior to Connor McGregor,

708
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: prior to that fight against Connor McGregor, we saw Jose

709
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: Aldo who was I think very defensively responsible, And since then,

710
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: I think maybe he feels like he needs to make

711
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: up for that fight and just be mister aggression and

712
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: mister excitement. So I'm curious to see how how he

713
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: adapts moving forward. You know, will we see the kind

714
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: of the more conservative Jose Aldo or will we see

715
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: this same kind of guy who is looking for the knockout.

716
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: I like this Aldo as far as excitement goes, but

717
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: as far as technique goes, he's he's a different guy.

718
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think I think that's fair. Nice to

719
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: see him active too. I think it was December knocked out.

720
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: Jeremy Stevens makes the quick turn, and that's one thing

721
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 5: that has sort of worked against Dustin Poorier in this

722
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: whole Connor McGregor conversation. Poorier has been the consummate company guy,

723
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: true workhorse. I loved that he went on the offensive

724
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 5: on Twitter and said, my next fight absolutely has to

725
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: be Tony Ferguson or Connor McGregor.

726
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: But here is Dustin Pourier.

727
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: He was not able to make the walk against Na

728
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 5: d As last November for due to injury, and so

729
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 5: now he hasn't fought in a little bit, even though

730
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: his last few performances have been unbelievable. But since he's fought,

731
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 5: you've had Cowboy Seroni and Jose Aldo. In the opinions

732
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: of a lot of people, maybe cut porier in terms

733
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 5: of the promotional appetite for Connor McGregor's next fight. So

734
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 5: I still would like to see Dustin, although Aldo is

735
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 5: certainly intriguing to me after what we saw this weekend,

736
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: you know, but absolutely.

737
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the fact that this guy had the belt

738
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: at one hundred and forty five pounds for so long.

739
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: You know, if there's one guy who deserves it after

740
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: everything he's done in this sport, he will go down

741
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: as a Hall of Famer. Josie Aldo deserves that second

742
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: big money fight against McGregor.

743
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so too. All Right, a couple other

744
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 5: guys I wanted to highlight. I mean, what a show

745
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 5: on a ESPN plus. By the way, just in terms

746
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: of the main card, in particular, all but one fight

747
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 5: of finish, Damian Maya moves into the two club in

748
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 5: the UFC. We all remember Damie Maia when he started

749
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: five and oher with five submissions in the UFC, and

750
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: here he is getting his twentieth UFC win at forty

751
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 5: one years old. This guy is our age. And when

752
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 5: you look at the recent three fight losing streak that

753
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: was against the big three, right Tyron Wood, Lee, Colby, Covington,

754
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 5: Kamara Ousman, you get him Lyman Good and it basically

755
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 5: goes the way much of Maya's career has gone. Next,

756
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: thank you for playing.

757
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely Listen, forty one year old dad bod goes out

758
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: there and shows exactly why Brazilian jiu jitsu is so

759
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: damn effective. I mean, is this guy not the epitome

760
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: of what martial arts and the Brazilian and Brazilian ju

761
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: jitsu is all about. You look at both guys and

762
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: you start laughing. Oh my god. I hope Liman Good

763
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: doesn't kill this poor guy named Damian Maya. I hope

764
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 3: his head stays on his shoulders, and then you see him.

765
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: He goes in, he clinches, he takes him down easy,

766
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: he gets to his back and it's just Brazilian in

767
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu one oh one, and he leaves you scratching

768
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: your head. It's it's amazing to see Damian Maya go

769
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: out there and have these kinds of performances against some

770
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: very dangerous individuals. If Damian Maya takes you down, or

771
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: if he gets around your back, it's over.

772
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: It is over.

773
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: And the fact that he's still doing this, you know,

774
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: into his forties, it's amazing. You know, he will be

775
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: a very dangerous man, probably well into his sixties. Oh yeah,

776
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: he's so efficient with what he does. My man.

777
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: So when Lineman good gets that bout agreement, is he

778
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: just like fuck or is he like I'm gonna knock

779
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 5: this guy out because he's a human being and I'm

780
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 5: something else? Like what is his inner monologue when Damian

781
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: Maya is the name on the contract?

782
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: Listen, I will say this. I think anybody who doesn't

783
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: come from a high level wrestling background is saying, fuck, yeah, man,

784
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to fight that guy, Damien Maya. If

785
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: you're a striker, if you're a guy who's the kind

786
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: of good at everything, but like you don't have a

787
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: specialty in high level grappling. Good luck, dude, good luck,

788
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: Because Damian Maya, you know exactly what he's gonna do.

789
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: You know, exhibit that you better get ready to have

790
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: a you know, one hundred and ninety pounds backpack on

791
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: and have a bow constructure on your neck because this

792
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: is what he does. You know what he's gonna do,

793
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: and you can't stop it.

794
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: No.

795
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 5: I mean, if I trained enough jiu jitsu, I would

796
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: have nightmares about people like Damian Maya. Even at Powoopa

797
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: School att West pomp Beach, there was one guy who

798
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 5: was like, Damian Maya's just like, I don't want to

799
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: roll with this guy. They're like, bro, you don't even roll.

800
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 5: What you do, John is not even rolling. We don't

801
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: call that rolling. So, in terms of Damian Maya and

802
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: Charles Olivera and your appreciation for the submission game, right

803
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: on this night, we were witnessed to two of the

804
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: most accomplished submission artists in UFC history. And I'm not

805
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 5: saying either man is a Hall of Famer. Okay, Maya

806
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: obviously has twice challenged for UFC goal Charles Olivera has

807
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: is not. But you know, for me, when I think

808
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: historically about the UFC and I think about this era,

809
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: you know, these are the guys, and you know, if

810
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: there's not a place in the Hall of Fame for

811
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: a guy like Damian Maya who has done what he

812
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 5: has done and his mma application of jiu jitsu in

813
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 5: the modern era, I don't know. I think he should

814
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 5: get some strong consideration given the body of work and

815
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: given that he's still a specialist in getting it done

816
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen.

817
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree with you more man, couldn't agree with you more.

818
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: I think Damian Maya is a Hall of Famer. To

819
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: be honest, I'm amazed by what he has been able

820
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: to accomplish in this sport. I've been a fan of

821
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: him just when he was competing in Brazilian jiu jitsu,

822
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: and it's a mission grappling one of the true heroes

823
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: out there for a lot of us in Brazilian jujitsu,

824
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: especially the way that he handles himself. He has always

825
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: shown class respect and high level martial arts skill, and

826
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: I really think he's what martial arts is all about

827
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: couldn't be your form. And as far as Charles Olivera,

828
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: you know, having the record now most submission wins, it's

829
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: very impressive. And you know, he's always kind of on

830
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: the brink of disaster with what he does with his

831
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: flight game, sometimes like he's either going to get knocked

832
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: the hell out or he's gonna rip off a limb.

833
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: And in this case he was able to rip off

834
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: a limb, showed some toughness to come back there. And

835
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 3: Charles Olivera man continues to impress. Now he's not fighting

836
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: you know, the elite top five guys, but still no

837
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: one has been able to submit as many guys as Olivera.

838
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 3: That is a very impressive accomplishment man.

839
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: And I think David Tamer came in undefeated in the UFCAS.

840
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: Another feather in the cap of Charles Olivera. And I

841
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 5: didn't see his post fight interview, but I know he

842
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 5: still talks about featherweight, but he had given what he's

843
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 5: done at lightweight, I'd like to see how far it

844
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: can take this thing one hundred and fifty five pounds.

845
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: You know, I agree, he's confident, looks fed, looks good.

846
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 5: Johnny Walker black or call him Johnny Walker Blue. What's

847
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: the nicest Johnny Walker blue and Walk Gold Blue?

848
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: I believe maybe it's gold. I don't know.

849
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 4: That's like Johnny Walker Blue.

850
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 5: Eight consecutive wins, this one by TKO the spinning backfist

851
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 5: and the punches to close it out against Justin Ldett

852
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 5: fifteen seconds in. The good News is another performance bonus,

853
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: another huge result for Johnny Walker. Not a whole lot

854
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 5: of film to digest, which is also a good thing

855
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 5: for him in terms of his opponents not having a

856
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 5: lot to break down, a lot of room to make

857
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 5: a run and expeditiously at light heavyweight. Your thoughts on

858
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: Johnny Walker Blue, Kid, It's simple.

859
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: The way to beat Johnny Walker is just don't get

860
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: hit by the guy. I mean, this guy he throws

861
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: with such ferocity and he's a little wild, right, I mean,

862
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: he's not the most technical guy in the world, but

863
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: my goodness, when he throws, he is trying to really

864
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: hurt you. And Ladett just never saw that backfist coming

865
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: and he almost threw that legal kick. I was so

866
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: glad that he didn't land on the upper part of

867
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: his of Ladett's body because I think Lodett's head would

868
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: have been, you know, look like a soccer ball and

869
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: maybe the third row of the stands there. But man,

870
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: Johnny Walker. I was really impressed. This is a guy

871
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: who I think fans can get behind, and a lot

872
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: of people are excited about Johnny Walker. Now, yes, finish,

873
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: He's finished two strikers very quickly, in impressive fashion. You know,

874
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 3: I like him. He's exciting to watch. He definitely brings

875
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: an energy into the octagon that is unusual. And I

876
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 3: hope that the UFC is still you know, I still think,

877
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: you know, he's a developing fighter, and I hope the

878
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: UFC sees that and continues to develop this guy. What

879
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: does that mean? Give him, give him good fights. Don't

880
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: don't start giving him to the you know, the top

881
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: twenty even or the top ten guys. Yes, he's looking impressive,

882
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: but keep giving him some guys that are in and

883
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: around his experience level so he can develop him because

884
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: I think he might be able to be something.

885
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 5: I really do, So don't give him Corey Anders right,

886
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: I think they should, Yeah, they should.

887
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: They should slow the role, keep them developing. He's still

888
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: young as a fighter, still young in his career, yeah,

889
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: develop them, get get him better, you know, don't don't

890
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: pull him up the ranks that quickly, would you know,

891
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: which is gonna kill his career.

892
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: I think that they will match him up strategically. I

893
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 5: do think he'll land on pay per view at UFC

894
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: two thirty seven when we return to Brazil in May.

895
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: But big picture in terms of the UFC in Brazil,

896
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 5: in terms of Brazilian stars, this was a big night, right,

897
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: a big show in Fort de Lazer. There's a lot

898
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: going on politically in that country. I know some people

899
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 5: felt unsafe going there. The event went off without a hitch,

900
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: so many huge performances to talk about. It was a

901
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: big night for the UFC in Brazil. And uh, we'll

902
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: be back in May. All right, good stuff there on

903
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 5: ice A Sunsaw too. We are on pay per view

904
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: this weekend at is UFC two thirty four. Whittaker v. Gastulum.

905
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 5: To that end, let us get to the main event challenge.

906
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge and.

907
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 5: The time is most definitely Hi Fish fine.

908
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: How do you ever think both will to win the

909
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: main event challenge? Did John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast?

910
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 4: All right, So for the first time here.

911
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 5: In twenty nineteen, we update the main event challenge standings.

912
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: Team Florian went head to head last week with Kyle Michaels,

913
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 5: who repped Team Annik in Week one. Team Florian, do

914
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: you know how good you did? Or do you know

915
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: how well you did?

916
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: Last week? Oh? You mean, like like undefeated and stuff.

917
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 5: So not only did you sweep the MMA board, but

918
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: you also had the Patriots minus two and a half.

919
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: So you won the.

920
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: Week six five because both of you nearly swept the board,

921
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: but you get another point for the Patriots selection. They

922
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: covers two and a half point favorites New England thirteen,

923
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: Los Angeles three, So Team Florian wins the week seven

924
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 5: to five.

925
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: Nice early lead.

926
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 5: I mean you played the role of chaser for much

927
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 5: of twenty eighteen really since February. Nice seven to five

928
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 5: lead out of the gates for Team Florian and with

929
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: us to make picks today podcast listener Felise Granados, Falise,

930
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 5: my man, how are you today?

931
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 10: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Probably not as good

932
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 10: as you, guys, but must be to you from Boston.

933
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 4: Where are you from? Man? Where are you from?

934
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: All right?

935
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 10: So I live in Sacramento, but I'm an Orange County,

936
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 10: southern California. I'm born and raised. My heart's always there.

937
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 4: So are you a Rams fan?

938
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 10: I'm actually a Chargers fan, so that one didn't hurt

939
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 10: as bad. But uh, I remember going to Rams games

940
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 10: when they were in Anaheim back in the day.

941
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Well, we got a good friend, Michael Laplant,

942
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: who's a diehard Chargers fan, one of our UFC producers,

943
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 5: and I know he didn't like that thirty five to

944
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 5: seven halftime score a few weeks ago. I think the

945
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 5: Chargers get one here, hopefully at least get Philip Rivers

946
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: to a super Bowl at some point. But we got

947
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: some UFC two thirty four picks to make today, and

948
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 5: we're happy to have you. Let us get to it.

949
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 5: UFC two thirty four or five main card picks. We

950
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: start with Jimmy Krute. I can't wait to say that

951
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 5: name on broadcast. Jimmy Crue No.

952
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: No.

953
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 5: Zero submitted Paul Craig in hiss UFC debut that was

954
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 5: not all that long ago.

955
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: In December.

956
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 5: He's the minus one thirty five favorite here for Leise

957
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: So I had minus two hundred, it's minus one thirty five.

958
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: He takes on the sixteen time UFC veteran, smiling sam

959
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: alb who comes back at plus one point fifteen fullis

960
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: your thoughts on this one?

961
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 10: All right? So, I watched his fight Jimmy Cruks fight

962
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 10: last night on the Contender Series, and a couple things

963
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 10: that I've seen was he's got a really good kicking game,

964
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 10: good kick lake kicks, which sam Alvi is acceptable too.

965
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 8: So there's that he's.

966
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 10: Got a good diversity of strikes all around. On the

967
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 10: Contender Series, he showed it. He's got good spinning kicks,

968
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 10: especially to the balls. I've seen that a couple of times.

969
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 10: But one thing I did notice is he does get

970
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 10: hit a bunch and his face shows it.

971
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 8: So there's actually taking a consideration.

972
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 10: On the other hand, sam Alvi, though everybody knows he

973
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 10: has that one punch knockout powers, a veteran, very composed

974
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 10: and he's a hard fighter to look against, look good against.

975
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 10: So and with his great counter punching, he can like

976
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 10: still around with one big punch even if he's not

977
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 10: very active. He did that against Gjiohn Belante.

978
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 8: So my thoughts on this.

979
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 10: Taking in an account that Creut gets hit and now

980
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 10: he's good counter punching. I think this fight's closer to

981
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 10: a pick them. So with that, I'll take the points

982
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 10: and i'll take Alvin.

983
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and our scoring system two points for Sam Alvi

984
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: whin you'll only get one for Jimmy Krut Ken Fill.

985
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 5: I've liked what I've seen from Jimmy Crutz. Certainly a

986
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 5: developing fighter, a prospect I think, not unlike Johnny Walker.

987
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: Maybe this is a huge reach by me, but he

988
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: does have a sort of an unusual energy to him

989
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: in this light heavyweight division.

990
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: Your thoughts on crut and Alvi this weekend? Down on her?

991
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed, And I think this is a tough

992
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: one to call, not only because Acruit's propensally for getting hit,

993
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: but also Alvi and his knockout power. This guy gets

994
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: hit as well, and Alvi a lot of times will

995
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: play possum and he'll back up and he'll you know,

996
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 3: take shots and it'll look like he's hurt. He'll lure

997
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: you in and then one shot and the fight is

998
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: over with either hand. So this is a tricky one

999
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: for me. I think it will be a firefight as

1000
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: far as power goes. That's what I'm gonna lean to

1001
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: when I see fights that are matched up this way,

1002
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I got a lean towards Alvi as well.

1003
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: I think he probably gets it done by TKO at

1004
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: some point later in the fight.

1005
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 4: All right.

1006
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: Next up on the main cod women's flyweight division, Montana

1007
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: de la Rosa minus two fifty, Nadia Cassim coming back

1008
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 5: at plus two hundred. De la Rosa pretty good so

1009
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: far too, and Ozero and the octagon back to back

1010
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 5: submission wins. Cassim also undefeated in the UFC. She's five

1011
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 5: and zero overall, getting a home game here Forelese, what

1012
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 5: do you think about this one at one hundred and

1013
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 5: twenty five pounds.

1014
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 10: Well, looking at this one, I watched Montala Montana last night.

1015
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 10: She looks like a good young fighter, one of those

1016
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 10: ones that you can expect big improvements from every time

1017
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 10: she fights. She looks long for the weight class. I

1018
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 10: noticed that she has a good jab and is a

1019
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 10: good counterpuncher, and she looks to be a real problem

1020
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 10: when she gets on top of you. With Nadia, I've

1021
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 10: seen that she's moving up from one to fifteen, so

1022
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 10: she might be a little undersized. I noticed she also

1023
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 10: gets hit. I think she's going to have trouble with

1024
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 10: del Rosa's long job and her side, so I could

1025
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 10: see Dela Rosa getting top position, getting a stoppage. But

1026
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 10: either way, I'm predicting a dominant performance from Della Rosa.

1027
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: I like this.

1028
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 5: Phlisee Granado's cat can't flow. He's watching film last night.

1029
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 5: It's got a nice soap cal sound to him. Montana

1030
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 5: de la Rosa, for Fealise can flow. Are you in

1031
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: agreement or no?

1032
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: He's facing the Champ Champ John, Come on, he's got

1033
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: a pressure actually doing it, Champ Champ Champ. Okay, sorry,

1034
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: don't tell.

1035
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 5: You what remade event challenges ken just because I haven't

1036
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 5: paid off all the bets yet, You've want.

1037
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: To at least I got a championship in something. All right, Well, listen,

1038
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: I agree. I think Montana dela Rosa is probably the

1039
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: favorite here, and I think size length will probably play

1040
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: a factor here in this one. But I think she's

1041
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: just a little bit cleaner with what she does, so

1042
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: no major breakdown for me. I think Dela Rosa probably

1043
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: gets it done, maybe with a TKO.

1044
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 5: All right, a couple of plays there on the prohibitive

1045
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: favorite Montana de la Rossa next up on the main

1046
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: card here, close fight at least according to Vegas at

1047
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 5: bandam weight. Ricky Simone's slight favorite here Felise minus one

1048
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 5: thirty Ronnie Yaya the even money underdog at least here

1049
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 5: early during fight week. What do you think about this one?

1050
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 10: All right? Can we first start with Ricky Simone's hair,

1051
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 10: like with a mullet like that, You got to be

1052
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 10: able to fight? Do you agree you have to that? Big?

1053
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: I got a seven month old son. It looks like

1054
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 5: he's got a mullet coming. I'm resisting the urge to

1055
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 5: fucking shave it off, So I yes, you better be

1056
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 5: able to fight, and Ricky Simone can fight?

1057
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 10: All right? Uh So what I think about Ricky Simone?

1058
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 10: Very active fire here, that's the first thing that jumps off.

1059
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 10: He stays busy. It's the biggest takeaway I got from

1060
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 10: watching him fight. And he has constant pressure and great cardio. Ronnie,

1061
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 10: on the other hand, he's a true veteran. I remember

1062
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 10: him from the WC, so his strengths are definitely his

1063
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 10: experience and he's got some slick submissions. But I'm going

1064
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 10: to take in this line. I'm gonna go with Simone.

1065
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 10: I'm going to say his wrestling can control the position,

1066
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 10: keep him from getting submitted, and I think they'll use

1067
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 10: his pace to get a decision over running Yaya ken flow.

1068
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: So far, so good, Ricky Simone in the UFC two

1069
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 5: to zero, interesting prospect that a lot of people think

1070
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: can make a run here. He's fought good competition outside

1071
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: the UFC. In the UFC wins over Marob Davalishvillian Montel

1072
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 5: Jackson fourteen and one. Overall, Yaya is just criminally underappreciated.

1073
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 5: Right thirty six pro fights, at least relative to his resume.

1074
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 5: He's underappreciated thirty six pro fights, fifteen in the UFC.

1075
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: Eleven of those are wins. Three straight wins. Overall might

1076
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 5: be four, but the last three wins have come by submission.

1077
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 5: Probably a guy who deserves some acknowledgment in that Damian Maya,

1078
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: Charles olavera conversation. Your thoughts on Gaya here against the

1079
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: oncoming force that is Ricky Simone.

1080
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: Well, listen, Simona, I think he's a good fighter. I

1081
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: think he's pretty solid all the way around. He can

1082
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: get hit as well. I think it's gonna come down

1083
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: to the wrestling right. If he could stop Yaya's takedowns

1084
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: and pressure, I think it's Simone's fight to lose. I

1085
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: think Simone definitely has a big advantage on the feet,

1086
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: just the cleaner striker. Yaya's gonna have to get to this,

1087
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 3: get this to the ground, but I think he does.

1088
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 3: I think he finds a way to hit that high

1089
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: crotch double leg combo that he uses to get people

1090
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: to the mat very slick at with his front chokes

1091
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: and his ability to get to the back. I think

1092
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: Yaya finds a way to get it done by submission

1093
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: in this one against Simone.

1094
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: And for our purposes, Rana Yaya is an even money underdog.

1095
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: And of course I'm contractually prevented from from betting on

1096
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts, and I don't make any picks. But

1097
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 5: Yahya is a guy who I would never be looking

1098
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 5: to go to the window to bet against, right, because

1099
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 5: I just don't want to be in a situation where

1100
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 5: I have money against that guy and he goes mission

1101
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: hunting and it's game over.

1102
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: Rip up your ticket, all right.

1103
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 5: Co main event features the greatest middleway champion the UFC

1104
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 5: has ever seen, the former King Anderson Silva.

1105
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: He will be forty four years old in April.

1106
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: Here he returns from a two year layoff that was

1107
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 5: a win his last time out against Derek Brunson. He's

1108
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: plus four seventy five because he is taking on the

1109
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 5: last style bender, Israel Attasanya, who is minus six point

1110
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 5: fifty for Lee's handicapped.

1111
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 10: This one for me, man, All right, let's start out

1112
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 10: with Anderson Silver. He is probably my favorite fighter of

1113
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 10: all time. I'm not sure if he's the pound for

1114
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 10: pound greatest ever, but I do believe his prime is

1115
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 10: the greatest prime of any fighter I've seen. My biggest

1116
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 10: fear on watching this fighter is I don't want to

1117
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 10: repeat of like BJ Penn versus Jay Rodrigod. I don't

1118
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 10: think we're going to see that. Israel A Desanya. Everybody

1119
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 10: knows he's a dynamic striker, probably the best since Anderson

1120
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 10: Silver Silva. He's a precision striker, but doesn't appear to

1121
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 10: be a big one eighty five, so that can work

1122
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 10: in Anderson's favor. I'm going to take Adasania, but I

1123
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 10: don't think it's going to be a crazy knockout like

1124
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 10: some predict Atasanya will win. Unanimous decision. But Anderson's still

1125
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 10: a good striker, and I don't think he gets man

1126
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 10: held by anyone on the feet.

1127
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: All right, Ken Flow, we know you were on the

1128
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 5: Adasania train well before it stopped at the octagon. He's

1129
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 5: fifteen to zero in MMA seventy five pro kickboxing wins

1130
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 5: and in the UFC. I think my biggest takeaway is

1131
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 5: that he has elevated his game and his performance with

1132
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 5: the competition. He has fought a better man each and

1133
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: every time out Brad Tavoris and Derek Brunson the last two,

1134
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: and he has gotten better. From Wilkinson to the Torri,

1135
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: to Tavoris to Brunson. Now he takes on Anderson Silva.

1136
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 5: He is a minus six fifty favorite.

1137
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: What do you think? All those things that you said

1138
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: are extremely accurate? And I will go a step further

1139
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: after all of that. I think this is probably the

1140
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: most favorable matchup for him out of all of those guys.

1141
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: I really believe it. Why because when you get in

1142
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: other technical striker, a guy who's trying to come forward

1143
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: and be creative, I just don't think he's gonna be

1144
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: as creative as Israel at Asnya Adasania has faced so

1145
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: many high level kickboxers, uh and boxers. I just think

1146
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 3: he's seen everything that Anderson's gonna throw at him. I

1147
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: think he's been watching Anderson right for a very long time.

1148
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: I think Israel Atasnya not only does he win, but

1149
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: he wins impressively. We can't forget that Anderson Silva was

1150
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: one of the best strikers, one of the best fighters

1151
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: in UFC history. But you know him in his forties now, uh,

1152
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: not being able to rely on his speed like he

1153
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: did when he was younger. I just don't see it

1154
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: going well. I don't see this as a pretty performance

1155
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: for him. I think it's gonna be a dominant three

1156
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 3: round I see a three round knockout for Israel Asanya.

1157
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: They're round t k oh for Israel Adasnya to pick

1158
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: to click for ken Full.

1159
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: I gotta say too, this main event, Whittaker and Gasolom,

1160
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 5: It's about as good as it gets for me on paper.

1161
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 5: And yet this feels like the Israelia Sonia show. I

1162
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: mean this, dude, it's all the rage, He's all anyone

1163
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 5: is talking about. But let us get to the main event.

1164
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 5: After fourteen UFC appearances, gotta feel good for this guy.

1165
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 5: We'll see what he can do with it. But Kelvin

1166
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 5: Gasolom has arrived in his first UFC championship fight. He

1167
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 5: is the plus two hundred underdog here. Not surprisingly, he

1168
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 5: takes on Sydney's best fighter UFC midawaight champ Robert Whittaker.

1169
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 5: Whitaker defended the title once successfully against Uel Romero. That

1170
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 5: was UFC two twenty five back in June. So those

1171
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 5: two Romero and Whittaker went fifty minutes over the last

1172
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 5: two years. Some have suggested those wars could soon, if

1173
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 5: not immediately, take their toll on the still just twenty

1174
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 5: eight year old Robert Whittaker. He is the minus two

1175
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 5: to fifty favorite here Saturday night. Fully, is this the

1176
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 5: main event? It's a title fight. We will need the

1177
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 5: round and the method of victory. Who leaves Melbourne the

1178
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 5: UFC midawaight champion of the world.

1179
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 10: All right, let's go. I'll say first, this is a

1180
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 10: great fight, but we'll start with Calvin. I think Calvin

1181
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 10: has a clean boxing. I think it's clean and precise.

1182
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 10: I think it's underrated and people don't appreciate it. They

1183
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 10: look at him as a wrestler sometimes still, but his

1184
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 10: boxing has been good. His hands are extremely fast for

1185
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 10: the weight class. He fights behind that jab and the

1186
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 10: left hand is lightning quick. As Kenny would say, he

1187
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 10: has a good beard. You don't see him hurt very often.

1188
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 10: And then the guy shines when the lights are on.

1189
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 10: He doesn't seem to fill the pressure. Robert Whitaker, on

1190
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 10: the other hand, he also has good boxing. He's just

1191
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 10: all around good fighter. And that guy has a ton

1192
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 10: of heart. He's had to show it in his Romero fights.

1193
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 10: And then on the other also, both these fighters are

1194
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 10: examples of guys not cutting weight and just excelling. This

1195
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 10: is a real tough pick, but I think Whittaker can

1196
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 10: get tagged and hurt. We've seen it in the Romero fights.

1197
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 10: I think with Gasolin's fast hands, he's gonna stun Whittaker.

1198
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 10: The differences, I think Gaston has the knockout power, the

1199
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 10: finishing ability gas Tank and aggressive ifs to put Whittaker away.

1200
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 10: I'm tempting to say first round knockout for Gasoline, but

1201
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 10: I'll make it the second round TKO.

1202
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 5: Calvin Gastolon, Wow, please Gastolum round two TKO, and I

1203
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 5: will tell you Falise Ray Long, go pick Gastolum as well.

1204
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 8: Earlier on.

1205
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 5: I guarantee you Gaslin wins. He's crying in that octagon.

1206
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: This would be such a break for him as an individual.

1207
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: I think it would be uh tears of joy for him.

1208
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 5: F Lee's great job, my man. Thank you for putting

1209
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: in the time and for listening, and we'll certainly get

1210
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 5: you back on before the years out.

1211
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 10: My man, Thank you all right, great, thanks much for

1212
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 10: having me.

1213
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: Good job man, all right, ken flow.

1214
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 5: So Robert Whitaker broke through and first became the Midway champion.

1215
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 5: It was July of twenty seventeen, courtesy of one of

1216
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: those wins over Joel Romero, that one by unanimous decision,

1217
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 5: two fight of the nights between these two guys. Now,

1218
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 5: Bobby Knuckles has had what amounts to seven full months

1219
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 5: off since the last one. But I think for all

1220
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 5: of us, the takeaway, especially after watching that UFC two

1221
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: thirteen fight, was like Jesus man, like what price have

1222
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: you paid your thoughts on on that storyline, that narrative

1223
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 5: in terms of how Whittaker responds out the backside of

1224
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 5: those two fights and ultimately who you see get in

1225
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 5: their hand raised here Saturday night.

1226
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: Well, you make a great point, right, I mean, he

1227
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: had two five round wars against Yol Romero. You know

1228
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: what did that take out of him? Now he's still

1229
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: very young. I think that he will be just fine

1230
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: here in this fight against Calvin Gasolm. But listen what

1231
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: police said. I don't think it's out of the realm

1232
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: of possibility that Gasolom gets a stoppage win early in

1233
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: this fight. I think Gastolom is that good. I have

1234
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for him. I just when I

1235
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: look at the fight and I say, listen, he has

1236
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: spent you know, fifty fifty minutes in his last two

1237
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: fights against a very powerful Olympic level wrestler in Yol Romero,

1238
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: a guy that not only can wrestle, but he's a

1239
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: very powerful striker as well. He's knocked out a lot

1240
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: of guys in the UFC in dramatic fashion, and I

1241
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: think that experience just goes a very far way with me.

1242
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: As far as the young Robert Whittaker, I think Whittaker,

1243
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: with his karate style, he's very good at finding his

1244
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: angles and blitzing at the right times. If we're not

1245
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: going to see panic out of him against Romero. He's

1246
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: just not gonna panic period against anybody, and the push

1247
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: at an early age, and the fact that he's probably

1248
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: really only getting better and getting more confident with each

1249
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: title defense. I think it's gonna be hard to beat

1250
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: a guy in Robert Whittaker. I think Whittaker gets it done.

1251
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be a blowout by

1252
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: any means. I think it will be a close fight.

1253
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: A lot of respect for Gasolom. I think Whittaker gets

1254
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: it done by decision here.

1255
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: It's interesting when you talk about Whittaker and having the

1256
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 5: Romero fights now in the rearview mirror, because I do

1257
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 5: think part of Whittaker is like, thank fucking God, the

1258
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 5: soldier of God not eat meat in Melbourne this weekend,

1259
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 5: you know, because it's just no matter what he hit

1260
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 5: him with, Yoel just kept on coming and obviously rallied

1261
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 5: at times in those fights.

1262
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: But this is just a great fight, man.

1263
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 5: I know people have been banging on maybe the depth

1264
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 5: of this card top to bottom, but I will tell you,

1265
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: if you dive into it, it's deeper than you think.

1266
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: But this main event is just outstanding and I can't

1267
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 4: wait to see.

1268
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 5: It's always amazing to see a guy have that first

1269
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 5: UFC title fight and see what they can do with it.

1270
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: You'd never know if the opportunity is going to come

1271
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: around again.

1272
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,479
Speaker 5: So for Kelvin Gaslam, we have literally called and seen

1273
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 5: his entire career dating to twenty thirteen when he beat

1274
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: you Ryah Hall, and I think it would be a

1275
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 5: special moment if he can break through. But Whitaker is

1276
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 5: an absolute beast and he is the favorite deserves that distinction.

1277
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 5: All right, we got to get out of here. I'm

1278
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 5: headed to Melbourne, Australia for UFC two thirty four on Wednesday,

1279
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: so we'll be back either late Monday night or early

1280
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: Tuesday with episode number one ninety.

1281
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 4: Thanks to Bill.

1282
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 5: Belichick, Thanks to the Patriots defense, every last one of you.

1283
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 5: Thank you to the Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Juliette

1284
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Speaker 5: and let's see them shame your Hall of Fame candidacy now,

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Speaker 5: Julian that you got that Super Bowl Most Valuable Player

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Speaker 5: trophy at home. Thank you to Ray Longo Fleise. This

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Speaker 5: has been a TJ. Desanta's production, as he will tell

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Speaker 5: you in about ten seconds. If you've got issues with

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Speaker 5: the show, let TJ know Ken Flow, enjoy the parade tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: All I ask, I want an Instagram story at Kenny

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Speaker 5: Florian of your daughter true watching the parade.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that too much to ask?

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Speaker 3: Done? Done and done, kiddy, Hey, get some sleep.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to bed for Kenny Flora and I'm

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Speaker 5: John Anick. Thank you all for listening, Thanks for the support,

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Speaker 5: all the love in you Hot We'll see in less

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Speaker 5: than seven days. Until then, you'll leave.

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Speaker 2: The John Anak and Kenny Florian podcast is a TJ.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis production. Its content is intended for private use only.

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Speaker 11: Sports betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus,

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Speaker 11: and Wagering Week is your antidote. I'm Tom Martin and

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Speaker 11: would help build ESPN's brand. I've been recognized and awarded

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Speaker 11: honest handicapper. Let the other guys give you the same old,

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Speaker 2: We'll give it to you straight here every Friday on

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Speaker 2: Wagering Week.

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Speaker 4: Don't get it with other podcasts.

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Speaker 11: Let's Sports Guard Network's Wagering Week Help your bottom Line.

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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 12: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 12: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 12: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 4: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 12: Listen to How to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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