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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. We

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Speaker 1: Some would say the CEO of how in the hell

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Speaker 1: did he play in the league for that long? Alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always is the boy Taylor Lawan, built like

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Speaker 1: a Greek god, brain of a toddler, but God, we

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Speaker 1: love him. We are the boys. On today's episode, we

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Speaker 1: get in a little bit of March madness talk. At

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Speaker 1: the top, we talked about how fried our brackets are,

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Speaker 1: how our brackets have basically just taken a beating by

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Speaker 1: a torpedo bat. Speaking of torpedo bets, we also dive

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Speaker 1: into the torpedo bat conversation in baseball, and we also

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Speaker 1: coach's picture came out. We throw a couple of fun

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Speaker 1: jabs at Vaibel. We talk about his fit. We also

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Speaker 1: today as you watch this episode. Then the main event,

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Speaker 1: a two and a half hour conversation I believe is

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Speaker 1: a two and a half hours Mitch with Luke Keighley,

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Speaker 1: your boy as a linebacker. I aspired. I aspire to

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Speaker 1: be a poor man's Luke Keighley. This conversation, this is

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Speaker 1: the smartest, scariest and most respectful psycho path to potentially

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Speaker 1: We get a deep dive into how incredible he was.

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Speaker 1: He's like a Hollywood director watching film. That's how much

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Speaker 1: Luke Keighley, what got him out of the league with

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Speaker 1: concussions and we talk about his post football life. This

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Speaker 1: conversation is everything you want. This is football porn with

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Speaker 1: Luke Keighley. Wherever you're at, buckle up. This is a

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Speaker 1: banger episode. Whether you're in the gym, you're in it

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Speaker 1: This is a fun episode. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're good.

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Speaker 3: You like go.

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Speaker 4: Busting with the boys, hanging with the face, betting on

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Speaker 2: Bro, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Bus

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Speaker 2: with the Boys. It is episode code three hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty two. We have a massive guest, the greatest white linebacker,

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Speaker 2: maybe the second greatest white linebacker ever walked this entire earth.

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Speaker 2: As always, we are presented by the wonderful and powerful FanDuel.

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Speaker 2: FanDuel is America's number one sportsbook. We did a couple

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Speaker 2: of parlays this week Thursday and Friday. Thursday plus six

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Speaker 2: hundred odds. What happens? Will Danger hit it? Banger bee hepatitis?

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Speaker 2: See you later Friday. Optimism you're feeling is good. This

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Speaker 2: two days. First day, bets go well. Second day we're like,

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Speaker 1: Plus six hundred banger. We had ready locked in.

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Speaker 2: Load plus six hundred banger. We had Michigan in there.

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Speaker 2: We had a couple overs in there. Guess what, not

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Speaker 1: I want to say too. It was like the first

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Speaker 1: But they won seventy three to seventy. Oh god, Arkansas,

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Speaker 2: That is sickening. And how does Vegas know. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't say we keep we keep the lights on

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Speaker 2: We're gonna sandwich this whole thing with positive negative positive.

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Speaker 2: My futures parlay that. A couple of people thought I

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Speaker 2: real quickly, what do you mean? Hey? Oh, hang on

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Speaker 2: the way, who thought you were Jens? Fucking you? Get

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Speaker 2: shit about basketball. I didn't know nothing about basketball. I said,

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Speaker 2: let me flop this thing on here, and guess what happened.

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Speaker 2: We knocked it out of the park. And that is

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Speaker 2: what a feeling? What a feeling? You know nothing? And

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Speaker 2: just go How about these four? Hey, I heard Houston's

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Speaker 2: pretty good. I'll put them in the Elite eight. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Florida's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Sure, this is the phrase I keep hearing in my head.

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Speaker 2: No one's gonna be surprised if Michigan makes it the

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Speaker 2: then your boys in Arizona. Boy, So what are we

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Speaker 2: gonna do. We're gonna put them in this Sweet sixteen

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Speaker 2: as well. Yes, all of them hit, Yes, all of

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Speaker 1: Thankfully, thankfully, because you were on pace to jinx it.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately, I threw a little prayer for you. I appreciate that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. There was talking about chickens hatching eggs.

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Speaker 2: He's just trying to He's trying to do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I understand. Get let's not get ahead of ourselves. That's all.

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Speaker 2: It's all in the brain of looking out for your boy.

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Speaker 2: I love it, and I actually appreciate you guys doing

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Speaker 2: that because it allowed me and sure him to cook

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Speaker 2: up a nice little video that I truly enjoyed. I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed making that sing on the train tracks, you me

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Speaker 2: guy pulled up on us right after, right after we finished.

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Speaker 2: He goes hey, we're just three pasty white guys sitting

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Speaker 2: by train tracks. He goes hey, don't do that again, Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: But it was fun to make. It was fun to do.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to have those things happen. Home Run Parlays.

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Speaker 2: We had a nice little one Friday didn't even get close,

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Speaker 1: It plus one hundred and ninety three thousand, ninety three

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Speaker 2: So we learned a couple of things about fans since yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now because the home run Jackpop parlay, like everybody was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone, especially the Yankees. Yeah, going nuts. Yah, those

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Speaker 2: that in a minute. But Saran put together no Coop

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Speaker 2: comes over to me and goes, my boys who love baseball.

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Speaker 2: These are the three right here, and it was like

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Speaker 2: just was like, yeah, I mean, your boy say it,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet it. So I bet it. Then Shearon goes,

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Speaker 2: like a hundred bucks, Yeah, to pass we win one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Was walking around.

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Speaker 1: He was walking around with the FanDuel AAP and he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where for me in the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I find out on Fandle the max bet you

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Speaker 2: had to bet, like I think the max was fifty

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Speaker 2: six cents on that. Jared had a great little idea,

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Speaker 2: bet at four or five times and then you can

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Speaker 2: start cashing out periodically. But I told him, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty sure like that would get flagged something,

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Speaker 2: something would happen with that. But I but I fell.

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Speaker 2: I did the same thing. I got. I bet like

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Speaker 2: four or five times. I'm kind of hyped up. I

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Speaker 2: go look at I go home. I literally tell my wife, sweetie,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna win a million dollars today. There's an opportunity

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Speaker 2: for us to win a million. She goes, how much

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Speaker 2: did you bet you? Two quarters and six cents. That's

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Speaker 2: what I did. And at the first leg, nope, second

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Speaker 1: One one hit, right, a few of these will hit

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Speaker 1: and we'll cash out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get up to a couple of thousand, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a couple of thousand. Kind of just pop that thing

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Speaker 2: in there, no problem. But I think that's the thing

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Speaker 2: we should do Fridays Ungodly parlays put fifty cents on

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Speaker 2: it is eventually you keep swinging, right, it's baseball keeps

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Speaker 2: we eventually you make contact. Fifty cent Friday. I like it.

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Speaker 2: We might have to.

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Speaker 1: We might have to start looking at the few cats

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Speaker 1: on the Yankees because they've just been going yard.

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Speaker 2: There's a video that came out. There's this guy sitting

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Speaker 2: in like right field. Yankees fans get the Yankee shirt

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Speaker 2: on Yankee hat and he goes. I had a dream

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Speaker 2: of that at home runs? Home runs in a row? No,

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Speaker 2: So if it hits, it's called juice in that one

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think let's just hit home runs. Right? Is

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Speaker 6: And one, I don't know why it took so long,

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Speaker 7: By the rules, isn't.

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Speaker 2: The next like this week?

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Speaker 1: Right, every team should have these fucking vortex these torpedo bats.

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Speaker 2: It, make sure no one else can no one else

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Speaker 3: That is when it gets canceled. But at least for

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Speaker 2: Fine print right there, you stop production.

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Speaker 3: We'll actually take those yo.

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Speaker 2: Show was one hundred million dollars now for even trying.

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Speaker 1: So did you compare to think? It's nuts how that

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Speaker 3: I don't think I knew that teams made their own bats. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Took this long and the fact that that's that's even allowed,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I would love to know how that conversation went down

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Speaker 2: I have an idea slower, stands up nervous. That is crazy,

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Speaker 3: People on Twitter like making it bigger each like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: The size of Aaron Judge using the bat is just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six seven, When is he two sixty? He's enormous.

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Speaker 2: He's a unit. Yeah, it's like me on the woftball field. Hey,

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Speaker 2: wolftball is a different game. Now you see those some

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Speaker 1: Now that's getting interesting now that we're down to the

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Speaker 1: It feels like a no brainer. Duke, Right, I'm Duke.

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Speaker 8: I have floida in my bracket, but I think Duke's

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Speaker 1: They look incredible, man, they look incredible. They just operate too.

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Speaker 1: It's like I saw to where they're the highest scoring

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Speaker 9: It's impressious.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to uh forba M to have

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Speaker 3: what's his name, kanneplek Nipple something. He's lights out, Proctor's

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Speaker 3: lights out. I think he's the most underrated guy on

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Speaker 3: their team. But to have a night like Bama did

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Speaker 2: The truest form.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee was struggling too, Jack, How is your mental?

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, well, I don't know where we're

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Speaker 8: gonna go with this. Tennessee got their assh Well, they

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Speaker 8: played horrible. They were over fourteen from three, they were

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Speaker 2: It was horrible. And then Houston was playing lights out too.

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Speaker 8: So I was just happy that we put hands on

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Speaker 2: That's a big one, That's all.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Like it makes how horrible the performance was

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Speaker 2: Got got.

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Speaker 8: But to any of the Kentucky fans out there, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Sorry that the last laugh, didn't you just Kenty fan.

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Speaker 6: I think what's cool about this Final four is that

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Speaker 6: And for John Shire, if they win, he could be

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Speaker 6: John Shire playing. He was a dog in college, set

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Speaker 6: Shire pulls up, They're all like we don't want any

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Speaker 6: No shit, Yeah, so he is. He was. He was

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Speaker 6: the in the championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who beats him. I mean, I guess,

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Speaker 1: you know, an it's anybody's game. But just watching Duke

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Houston could. I mean the fact that they're the

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Speaker 6: always have a chance with that, But Duke, they just

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Speaker 6: to get hard buckets, and every single one of Duke's

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Speaker 2: An update on our brackets. Well, I learned in the

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Speaker 2: pre production, meaning that Garrett is now the leader in

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Speaker 2: the clubhouse with our brackets throughout? Was it ninety nine percent?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one seed, one seed?

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Speaker 6: None of this bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I saw the board, the.

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Speaker 3: Percentile, Yeah, I mean top three. I had to take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you understood, you understood, You understood better than I did.

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Speaker 2: I got a little too generous with the Michigan. But

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Speaker 3: I do think the best matchup is Florida Duke, just

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Speaker 3: Florida's got a point guard that's like out and Duke

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Speaker 2: And do you have Duke in Florida in your final two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I got Houston and Florida in my

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Speaker 6: Garrett is ranked in the top ten thousand brackets.

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Speaker 10: No, yes, let's gone, God bless why one seeds?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this weekend, I just see JP tweeted about next year.

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Speaker 2: I'm only going, Well, you're auto drafting, bro, you thought

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Speaker 2: It's march.

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Speaker 6: It's march man. That's how it used to be, and

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Speaker 6: that's how you used to get paid. Yeah more, but

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Speaker 6: Obviously we're in the Elite eight. It was all ones

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Speaker 6: but it seems like they.

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Speaker 2: Laid it out forty recommnd us.

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Speaker 6: I hope as far as upsets go, the quality of

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, do you guys watch the Michigan

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Speaker 2: Auburn game at all? I mean, it was like there

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00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: was quality basketball going on, but there was a five

436
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 2: minutes span in that second half where it was just

437
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: turnover after turnover, everyone just running down to the other

438
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: side of the court, losing the ball and someone grabbing

439
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: and then losing the ball on the other side.

440
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 6: Well, the ball in this tournament, there was a lot

441
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 6: of complaints in the beginning that it's like overinflated, so

442
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 6: a lot of guys were having trouble ball handling it

443
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 6: over inflated.

444
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little opposite of Tom Brady to flate gate, right,

445
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: something going on? Okay, all right, Auburn.

446
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 6: All connected, tom Brady, Michigan over inflated.

447
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: Let's see what's going on here. Michigan always a common

448
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: denominator in those things. When during the SEC Tournament he

449
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 2: said he went to the game and he saw Florida

450
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: and Alabama, and Florida just wiped the floor of Alabama's

451
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: the point where She's like, I just got to sit here. Oh,

452
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: I'll get to a point here. He's like, I gotta

453
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: sit here and basically just watch great basketball take place.

454
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: And so when I'm watching the Michigan Auburn game, like

455
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: Michigan's down by one at the end of the first half,

456
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 2: and the second half they go up seven, I'm thinking,

457
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: holy shit, the boys are gonna do. My bracket's looking fantastic.

458
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: And then Auburn, this center goes crazy, and then zero

459
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: this freshman starts going nuts, like just basically closing his

460
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: eyes and throwing the ball in the air. It goes

461
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: in every single time to the point where they just

462
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: started to run away with it. And I thought I

463
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 2: was in the same position. I thought about you, and

464
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 2: I was like, this is I just got to watch

465
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: Auburn do incredible things right now because they were not missing.

466
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 2: There's nothing Michigan could do this.

467
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 3: I'm alled JP say his two cents about the center,

468
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 3: but Oliver like him.

469
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: He is a little demonstrative with his hand gestures. He

470
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: loves to be seen. I don't like that.

471
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: Zero Pettiford's nice. Auburn's still ass fuck Auburn, but Petiford

472
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: is nice. I'm alled JP talk about four real quick.

473
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 6: Broom tweeted it out. But he is the most over

474
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 6: dramatic player in college basketball. Yes, he is a beast,

475
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 6: but he's also like twenty three years old, and he

476
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 6: carries himself like he is Lebron And I want him

477
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 6: to do I want him to have I want him

478
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 6: to get rich after school. I don't wish any I

479
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 6: don't want him to have a horrible career in the NBA.

480
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 6: But I can't see him in the NBA doing his thing,

481
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 6: and the way he carries himself, you would think he's

482
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 6: he's a number one draft pick. But last night in

483
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 6: the game, did y'all watch it? This guy bro Now

484
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 6: he went down and like it looked like he kind

485
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 6: of messed up his knee, and so it's like, oh, snap,

486
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 6: that's obviously not good. But then you start hearing it's

487
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 6: his shoulder or something, his elbow, and he's like sitting

488
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 6: there on the ground with that look of like, man,

489
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 6: my tournament's over, and so you're you're feeling for him.

490
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 6: He's walking by his teammates, he hugs his mom. He

491
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 6: goes to the locker room, tolds yes, maw's the coach.

492
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 6: I'm done. I'm like, dang, and you know, he bought.

493
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 6: He battled through some injuries earlier in the year that

494
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 6: we're also kind of overhyped when it first happened. But

495
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 6: he goes to the locker room, come back, comes back out,

496
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 6: gets the big cheer, and then immediately gets grabs a

497
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 6: one handed rebound and then goes and knocks down a

498
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 6: three and is like juicing everyone up. I'm like, this

499
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 6: is not you can't do this, this is not allowed,

500
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 6: and Taylor likes it.

501
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: He went in there, got that blue bound State shot

502
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: bro State training staff and they got that need allowed.

503
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 6: And then I can't wait till he's.

504
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know he did that. Listen, he overcame an injury.

505
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 6: I get he overcame an injury I did.

506
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I hated that he was doing it to Michigan,

507
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: but I loved like his physicality and the paint like

508
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: he was body and catch plays in the corner you

509
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: know there, and then grew.

510
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: Up playing sports like you all. You know, you know

511
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: those teammates that were like, dude, are you even that injured?

512
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: Right now?

513
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: I know?

514
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 6: And he is that teammate and now he's getting it.

515
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 6: He's up for National Player of the Year too.

516
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: Oh you would hate that, Yeah, just the way you said.

517
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 6: Up for you the flag broom. This guy man, I've

518
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 6: been hating on him for for a while now.

519
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: Really, so I brought up a sore subject because he'll

520
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: be doing it like he will put it on South

521
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: Carolina even though we should have beat them this year.

522
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 6: Lost the end. But yeah, he's been he's been bothering

523
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 6: me for a while. Damn the NBA.

524
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: It does got talent. And don't you want your players

525
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: to be like over confident in their abilities. Don't you

526
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: want like, if this guy's on South Carolina, you would

527
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 2: love him?

528
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 6: No? Yeah, I mean I would I love anybody that

529
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 6: wears gardening black. But the Pettiford guy. He's a perfect example.

530
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 6: Like he runs his mouth, he thinks he is one

531
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 6: of the best point guards ever to touch the basketball court.

532
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 6: And he's fun to watch and he doesn't give off

533
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 6: the vibe that Broom does like the Auburn point guard.

534
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 6: He has this his tape from high school where he's

535
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 6: just finding every camera before the game, like I'm killing

536
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 6: these I'm doing it into everybody. Then highlights, we roll,

537
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 6: putting on a show and I'm about that. He didn't

538
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 6: fake injuries, this kid, This kid, he didn't fake injuries.

539
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: This kid zero was insane, unbelievable. He's a freshman, right.

540
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, drive into the paint on you guys, drove into

541
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: the paint, stopped, turn, spun out of it, and hit

542
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: like a fade away jumper at the elbow.

543
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: And it was we had that seven footer he like

544
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: somehow got like the exchange, like someone tried to do

545
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: a pick and so the seven footer went on him

546
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: and he like just stuttered him real quick and put

547
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: that kid's feet and just went around laid that thing

548
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: up no problem. It was crazy to watch anywhere he was, dude,

549
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: anywhere on the court he was. He put that ball

550
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: in the air. It either went to somebody got an assist,

551
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: or he just went in the net.

552
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: It was crazy, yeah games over the weekend, but then

553
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: there were some really bad ones.

554
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all of our teams just got murdered. You me,

555
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Jack Weird paid though. Yeah that bracket, shout out that bracket,

556
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: shoutout March madness. Dude, it's awesome.

557
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: What are we thinking in do we have any any

558
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: any football topics? I know the the NFL is officially

559
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: voting on banning the toush push h Why.

560
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: My vov no ban, it'd be no ban.

561
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Like I it's like, I get frustrated watching it, but

562
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta line up,

563
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out a way to stop it. I think,

564
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: if anything, they need to be very they need to

565
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: be very detailed on the offense, like false starting, because

566
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: there it's just such a different looking formation when everybody's

567
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: all like on all fours, and I feel like there's

568
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: false starts that kind of happen before the ball is snapped.

569
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: I'll be more focused on getting that kickoff reverse back

570
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: to what it was like that we have bigger issues

571
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: out there than the touch push like, you just have

572
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: man on man, you have dudes on dudes. How tough

573
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: are you versus how tough am I? And we're gonna

574
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: find out who's better in this moment. Yeah, it's it's

575
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: It's an extremely hard play to get passed. There's no doubt.

576
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they've done it for a couple of years

577
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: now and just have had a insanely high success rate.

578
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Other teams that try to mimic it and can't do it,

579
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: but no one's stopping anybody else from doing this formation. Yeah,

580
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: it's a torpedo back is to But yeah, you brought

581
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: up the Bills. The Bills did it, but they do

582
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: it differently, like Josh Allen takes a step to the

583
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: left and goes to the b gap.

584
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: They just do it differently, right, And you're saying and

585
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: not have success. So I'm saying the Bills, like, if

586
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, you just need to go all

587
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: out and do it like they do it exactly like

588
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles do it have to.

589
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean no, it's not like they they patent it

590
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, nobody else can do this play.

591
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Anybody else can do that play and get it done. Sorry,

592
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: the Eagles quarterback squad six hundred fifty pounds, like, get

593
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: you a quarterback? Yeah, behind that old line and you

594
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: have three guys pushing like, I don't see anything wrong

595
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: with that at all. I see nothing wrong. It sucks.

596
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: It's especially when your team's playing the Eagles and it's

597
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: fourth to one. You know, hey, they're gonna get it.

598
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: When you're the commanders and go, yeah, they can award

599
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: you a free one.

600
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: But it's just I think it's almost ridiculous to even

601
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: like outlaw this.

602
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Did you see uh, did you see the coaching photo.

603
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: Do you see our boy Brad? Yeah, shoulders a little

604
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: stiff in there. Huh, he looks a little siting.

605
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: He's got that funny he's got that little that little grin,

606
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: that smile where he's actually giving a smile.

607
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: I saw zooming on the photo of the four guys

608
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: in there. Callahan's in there. It's like when you have

609
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: to hang out with your ex, uh, your girlfriend's ex boyfriend.

610
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of just kind of sitting there and Raves

611
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: is over above him, and that that is Braves has

612
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: got to feel good walking into that building right there,

613
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I'm fucking back. But you know he's

614
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: got it. He's got his little walk in. Yeah, a

615
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: little stres just owning the room.

616
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: But that right, the strut, the confidence, it's swagged that

617
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: we know Rabel has none of it.

618
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: None of it is in that photo. He's doing the

619
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Will Compton flex is what he's doing. The shoulder up

620
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: a little bit, got this little thing going, you sees, Pegs.

621
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: Has he been in the weight room a little No, No,

622
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: he's been hitting that. He's been hitting that little bag

623
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: real slow with stretching the corner him and Frank.

624
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 6: You think he was alty that they had him at

625
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 6: the end.

626
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, who knows.

627
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 6: Maybe I just pictured the person in charge of the photo,

628
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 6: like all right, everybody line up please, single, single file

629
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 6: line and you just got Andy Reid in the front. Yeah,

630
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 6: Like I just pictured that whole behind the scenes process

631
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: being hilarious.

632
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder if he tried to walk towards the mither, like, oh,

633
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: could you mind?

634
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Actually, Mike's over here to the right, zime, no farther.

635
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've only won.

636
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: A few super at some point he's he's like away

637
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: from everybody else.

638
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: There's like a big space that's good to himself too,

639
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Like I've only won a few Super Bowls and played

640
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: fourteen years?

641
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many? How many years in the NFL these

642
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: guys play, that's crazy.

643
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: I want like the one time you know too, that

644
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: you can look at this photo and kind of laugh,

645
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: knowing you can kind of goof on him.

646
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

647
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: I feel like, yo, I would whoop your ass in

648
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: this situation, but knowing like this is the only moment,

649
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: but outside of it, it'd get a little too physical.

650
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Did All right, Bro, We're relax, put your little little

651
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: chest pad on and go go to practice, go to

652
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Speaker 2: just me. We know you're a psycho. Yeah, it's interesting.

653
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got to feel good walking in and

654
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: Patriots head coach. They spent like one hundred and forty

655
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: million dollars this offseason. They're just getting all He's getting,

656
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: all those guys, Harold Landry Splaine, all these things. He's

657
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: getting everybody he wants. He's got Drake May who people

658
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: are kind of whispering like this kid's a lot better

659
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: than people think. They've brought on two digs, yes and

660
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: digs on which interesting.

661
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: And Vrabel digs dynamic to be interesting.

662
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Speaker 2: That is going to be. But I feel like he

663
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: can handle it. He needs his Yeah, he needs a dog.

664
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Speaker 2: I thought. I thought, I thought for a min they're

665
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Speaker 2: to get aj. I thought for a moment, they're only

666
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: going snipe aj Or from the Eagles. Man.

667
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't know Digs whatsoever, just on headlines, right and

668
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: gossip and everything else. But again, it's like Raves was working.

669
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Raves worked with a lot of different personalities on the tidies.

670
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: I feel like Braves is somebody that gets it, gets

671
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: that out of those.

672
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: He's got that tomlin S kind of vibe where he

673
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: can take multiple personalities make them work together.

674
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: Like we were built around the run game and you

675
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: had a savage like AJ Brown on the outside, who

676
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, was frustrated at a time.

677
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean aj was going off, Corey Davis was going

678
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: off as soon as a j yacht. There. You had

679
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: who else, Johnny Smith like you had so much talent

680
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: on some of those teams, Khaliff Raymond just burning kats

681
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: in Baltimore.

682
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 6: It's in the right amount. Those guys want to be

683
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 6: challenged and they don't. They don't want to coach it.

684
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 6: They can say everything they want to. They want a

685
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 6: guy that will sort of check them. And I feel

686
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 6: like it. It does. It's like you said, bring out

687
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 6: the best.

688
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a respect factor that needs it needs

689
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: to happen with some of these personalities.

690
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: And whether or not as a player, you whether or

691
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: not you want that or you like that. Right, it

692
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: does it ultimately like lits you up and then you

693
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of look back.

694
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: On like, oh this guy was good for me. Yeah,

695
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: this is where this is where Rabel's fourteen year comment

696
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: is gonna probably go a long way with dis Yeah,

697
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: he did do it for a long time. Yeah, I've

698
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: been nice. Hell always be chirping about how many touchdowns

699
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: he has and all these different things. How many you

700
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: got this year? I had this man one year.

701
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Those bringing up legends, like big personalities like Randy Moss

702
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: walk through here. I don't know if he played with

703
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Randy though, No, Well it will be called it's like

704
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: being able to play as a team. Yeah, when did

705
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: frames retire?

706
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: He played with Randy? Right, that's a twenty seven team.

707
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: I know.

708
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I was walking around, I can I can picture myself

709
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: walking around my high school hallways spouting off about how

710
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I have Randy Johnson on my fantasy football team.

711
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: So I don't Johnson picture.

712
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: Randy Moss spout off about how I have Randy Moss

713
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: and my fantasy football team.

714
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know. He might have just missed. Was

715
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: it eight? No, he was still in it. Oh seven?

716
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: Was that season right? O? Seven eight? Super Bowl? Or

717
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: was it eight? Season nine Super Bowl? I think it

718
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: was seven o eight? Oh yeah he played. Oh there

719
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Speaker 2: you go there. It is good research. Sure, nice work.

720
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I shout out Rames being back in there. Man,

721
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: we got to fix that photo though, rapes. Let's take

722
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: care of that next time we go in there. Let's

723
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: get a shirt that's a little more fitted, a little

724
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: more customed out. We got to get out the fox

725
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: bro too. We gotta sit down. Yeah, gotta see him

726
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: walk around like we own the place. And then we

727
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: see him, we just curl up our feet on his desk.

728
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: He walks in shit, no doubt. Look at him in shape?

729
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: What a beauty? Yeah? What else we got? Boys? We

730
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: feel good. We have a massive guest today. Yeah, do

731
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: you want to, I'll let you up the floor. This

732
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: is a big moment for Wilcompton.

733
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was ecstatic when he was about

734
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: coming to Nashville because he was wanting to come on

735
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: when we were going to the Super Bowl.

736
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Speaker 2: But it was like, bro, we.

737
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Speaker 1: Gotta get you on the bus and we can find

738
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: him if we can find that because we've been we've

739
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: been going back and forth with Luke since maybe November

740
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: October last year because Paul Swan shut up all Swan

741
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: he kind of hooked it up, put us in a

742
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: group chat and we were going back and forth. He

743
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: was already you know, Luke would be out hunting. He's

744
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: an outdoorsman. He'd have a lot of different things going on.

745
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: He was requesting to come on during uh during the

746
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but again it's like, bro, we gotta get

747
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: you on the bus so we can find a moment.

748
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: And I think he came out and worked with Vanderbilt

749
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: like he was out with Vanderbilt earlier. That earlier that

750
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: when he came on the bus was in the afternoon,

751
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: but he was at Vandy old morning. I think just

752
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: helping with the staff, maybe talking to the players, working

753
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: with the linebackers. But yeah, get Luke Keigley on. I mean,

754
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: one of the most accomplished. How long did he play?

755
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: Eight was it eight years?

756
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: It was eight years?

757
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the most accomplished careers in that

758
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: short amount of time ever ever, I mean, he's one

759
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: of the best.

760
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: And if you're a guy that like truly loves ball,

761
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: like loves the x's and o's of what's going on,

762
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: you're going to love watching Luke Keigley dissect all these things.

763
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: We go into some of the places he's had his

764
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: back to back picks against the Lions. How he they

765
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: were in a blitz. They check out the buttz. I'll

766
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: let him tell a story. But the way he went

767
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: about the process of the game is a massive reason

768
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: why he was so successful. Talks about the players he

769
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: played with, the leadership that was into the rooms. It

770
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: shows how important a young guy it is for a

771
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: young guy to get leadership in a room that he

772
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: walks into, and how important is for those guys that

773
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: are nine to ten eleven year vets to help the

774
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: young guys out because it seems like he had great

775
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 2: habit before, but getting in with them and them teaching

776
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: him how to be a pro just send them.

777
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: Yes, empowering him like, hey, you are the guy surrounded

778
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: by guys that are older than you and had like

779
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: cut their teeth in the league and very like very

780
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: respected players that were ahead of him. Absolutely, but dude,

781
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I mean it's Louke Keekley and having

782
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: him on too. It's like getting to talk to him

783
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: about all the concussion stuff because he's somebody who played

784
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: his uh his career and he doesn't really go on

785
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: much or he hasn't necessarily talked about it a whole lot.

786
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: So getting to kind of dive in on what the

787
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: insecurities were, like, like what what was popping up, like

788
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: when those concussions were starting to to create a pattern,

789
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: like being at peace was retired.

790
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: When did he know he was going to retire?

791
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and him jumping into scouting the year after I

792
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: thought was insane. Yeah, you're you're just curious a guy

793
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: at that level, why would you want to go into

794
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: potentially being a scout in the NFL? Like are you

795
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: trying to be a GM or you trying to be

796
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: a coach? And just dabbling in his life after ball

797
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: since retiring and just hearing him talk about it was

798
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: awesome and all that seemed like he's he's super he

799
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: he was super at he's with everything, which I was

800
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, like as a backer knowing

801
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: that he played at the highest level every.

802
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Year that he was on the field.

803
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: It's like, man, do you ever think about, like, you know,

804
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: are you bummed that you didn't get to play like

805
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: fifteen years or put up a career or play as

806
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: long as like ray Lewis did, like knowing where his

807
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: stats probably would have fallen.

808
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the only player I've ever seen in my

809
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: entire life go from being a physical backer and then

810
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: a little more heady than messy and still have the

811
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: same amount of productivity. Yeah, because he just understood the

812
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: game at a different level than everybody else.

813
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just his Like the dude ran a four

814
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: to five I want to say he jumped extremely well

815
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: on all the combine stuff like his physical capabilities like

816
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: paired with all that mentality and that preparation and everything else.

817
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: You just got to see he was a stud on

818
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: the field man, and his closing speed, the way he

819
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: could Again, we're we're talking about at the time Julio

820
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: Jones dunked on him, but he's covering Julio Jones and

821
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, which looks like, yeah, we were talking about

822
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: cover four breaking down how he has to run with

823
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. He wasn't really getting a whole lot of help.

824
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: He had some like late safety help. But we're talking

825
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: about him running and covering and competing with Julio Jones

826
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: like when he unfortunately got dunked on.

827
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's just dude, and getting to.

828
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: Break down the Dallas Cowboys plays and him turning his

829
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: head around and getting that pick.

830
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Like his ability was jumping out of cover too, because

831
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: he knows that that's that's covered. He's probably Stafford gone

832
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: from his read to somewhere else, having his back to

833
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: a play and knowing what a person behind Hi misthinking

834
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: and able to turn. Yeah, it's just incredible, dude. Yeah,

835
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: it's amazing. It just shows like the capability of some

836
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: football players in their brain that just allows them to

837
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: operate at that level is just nuts.

838
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, just wild dudeses of legends, legend.

839
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Let's get in this episode. Before we do, let's talk

840
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: about TikTok. What do you say, Willie? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What?

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00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: Hey, Taylor? I have a question.

843
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia,

844
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Speaker 1: a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life saving

845
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: medical innovator in Tennessee all have in common?

846
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: Are they all in small business owners? And they all

847
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: thriving on TikTok. Yes, bro.

848
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Across the US, over seven and a half million businesses,

849
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: from family owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok to

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00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: What does that kind of growth mean?

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Speaker 1: It means jobs. What Today They're over seven and a

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Speaker 1: half million US businesses on TikTok employing more than twenty

857
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: eight million people, and that number keeps growing. Small businesses

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Speaker 1: US economy at TikTok economic impact dot com.

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Speaker 2: Shane Gillis, Post Malone, and Dustin Poorier. Our guest today

875
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Speaker 2: quite possibly the greatest white athlete to ever be on

876
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: this earth, a man who has been said gotten apartment

877
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: his rookie year, had a bed, no TV, just for

878
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: his iPad so he could be the greatest. Somehow went

879
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: to Boston College, should have gone to the University of

880
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: Michigan or Nebraska. Ladies, gentlemen, give your give a ronoplause

881
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: for Louke Keickley, who also Paul want to see when

882
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: it drops one day. Hall of fame, all white a

883
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: team or there we go. Gotta be starting backer. Bro,

884
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: Welcome to the bus.

885
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 7: I appreciate it. It's good to be on here.

886
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, So how do you want to start? How

887
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: do you want to do this? Heart pounding? Hey? Yes, right, right, okay,

888
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: I'll take this.

889
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: Go ahead and start right because I'm just looking at it.

890
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: That's that's him, that's that's yeah.

891
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: Do you want to start early in his life or

892
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: he's younger than two? That's what's even crazy? I know,

893
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: like that's Did you tell Luke that you actually played

894
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: two more years in the NFL than him? No? I

895
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: figured we'd get to that point. It's a fact. I

896
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: can't run from that situation. We get to that point,

897
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: you get to that point eventually.

898
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go ahead and start it off. Your

899
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: kick it while I start to gather my thoughts.

900
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: Luke, how does it feeld to be the best white

901
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: linebacker ever lived? Oh?

902
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 7: My gosh, So Brian or Lacker was the guy that

903
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 7: I grew up watching him and Zach Thomas are pretty

904
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 7: daggon good. And then Chicago guy Dick Buckets. I feel

905
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 7: like he kind of kind of got it all rolling

906
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 7: a little bit can here get it close? Yeah? But

907
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 7: uh it was fun.

908
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 6: Man.

909
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 7: The game of football is special. And the guys that

910
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 7: I grew up watching lack Zach Thomas, Derrek Brooks, Ray Lewis,

911
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 7: those are the dudes that when I was growing up,

912
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 7: I want I want to be like those guys.

913
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: When did the bug hit you? Because everything I know

914
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: this is obviously the first time we've met. Yeah, but

915
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: playing against you, practicing against you one time when you brutal,

916
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: terrible actually practices we went away did a joint practice

917
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: and I was always told this guy, Luke Keigley, like

918
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: he is a football guy. He's a machine. The way

919
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: he operates, he calls out plays. You have so many

920
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: clips of guys saying, oh, we would be sitting there,

921
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: we checked to a play, and then you would call

922
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: out to play. It was no difference when we were

923
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: in practice. I actually, I don't know if you read this,

924
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: I walked up to you in the middle of practice

925
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: between plays and said something to you. You were like

926
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: a goddamn robot, like.

927
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 7: You were so dialog I was hot and trying to

928
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 7: get off the field.

929
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: Dons what you were? So when did the bug hit

930
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: When did you realize, Okay, football is what I want

931
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: to do with my life.

932
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 7: I think growing up I wanted to play football, probably

933
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 7: start in like second or third grade. You know, you

934
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 7: grew up in the Midwest. I grew up in Ohio.

935
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 7: The first game that that pops on is at noon,

936
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 7: so you wake up on Saturday. We always would have

937
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 7: football practice on Saturday mornings. We play on Sundays, and

938
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 7: then you'd watch college football all day. So I think

939
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 7: for me it was started as a young age. That's

940
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 7: the one game that I wanted to play, and we

941
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 7: didn't have an opportunity to play in two I was

942
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 7: in fourth grade because just how the school was set up,

943
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 7: my dad didn't play football. We weren't really a football

944
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 7: family growing up. So by the time I got involved

945
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 7: with it, I was in fourth grade and my brother

946
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 7: was in fifth grade, and we just played on the

947
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 7: local school team. It was a group of I think

948
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 7: it was Saint Mike's Our lated to the Sacred Heart

949
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 7: is where I went to school, and then Saint Xavier.

950
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 7: Those are the three team, three schools that made up

951
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 7: the team. So it was really like third grade that

952
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 7: I knew I wanted to play, and then fourth grade

953
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 7: is the first year that actually played.

954
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, why Boston College? Like coming to were you were

955
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: you an offer guy coming out.

956
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Of high school?

957
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I knew. You know, when you're coming up,

958
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 7: you never expect you're going to play in the NFL.

959
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 7: I think for me, it was always what's the next

960
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: logical step for me. So when you're in grade school,

961
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 7: you want to play on So it was third and fourth,

962
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 7: fifth and sixth, seventh and eighth. So when you move

963
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 7: up to fifth grade and you're on the fifth and

964
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 7: sixth team, you want to play on that team. And

965
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 7: then as a sixth grader you play, and then on

966
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 7: seventh grade you go back in the same situation, and

967
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 7: then you get to high school. We had a freshman team,

968
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 7: a jv team, and a varsity team. So my goal

969
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 7: in high school was to play on the varsity on

970
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 7: the varsity team as a junior, which is crazy. It's crazy.

971
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 7: We just had we had so many we had. I

972
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 7: went to a private all or a Catholic Jesuit all

973
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 7: boys school in Cincinnati. That's kind of one of the

974
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 7: reasons I went to BC. But there's sixteen hundred boys

975
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 7: and we probably had, you know, three to four hundred

976
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 7: kids in the football program.

977
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was huge three to four hundred years.

978
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: So your school is one of the reasons why Ohio

979
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: always looked at such a big.

980
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, we were Southwest Ohio, so we had like one

981
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty five hundred and forty kids on the

982
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 7: freshman team. The JV team was just sophomores, and then

983
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 7: that was probably seventy eighty kids, and then on the

984
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 7: varsity team was like one hundred and forty kids again,

985
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 7: so those numbers get big quick. I went to BC

986
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 7: because academically was really strong. That was one thing that

987
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 7: my parents talked to me a lot about was go

988
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 7: somewhere that you wouldn't be able to get into without football.

989
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 7: So I wasn't getting in the Boston College. I looked

990
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 7: at Stanford, wasn't getting to get in there. Duke and

991
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 7: then Virginia were the schools that I was looking at,

992
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 7: and I was like, I can't get in to any

993
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 7: of these schools without football. And I'm like, if I

994
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 7: can get a scholarship to twent of these schools, I

995
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 7: got an opportunity to get a five year education of

996
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 7: masters for free and go play football. So that's kind

997
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 7: of what you're thinking coming out. And Tom O'Brien was

998
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 7: a Saint Xavier guy. That's we went to high school.

999
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 7: He went to Saint Xavier and then he ended up

1000
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 7: coaching at Boston College and started pulling kids out of

1001
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 7: the high school to go to play football Boston College.

1002
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 7: So we probably had a kid there for I don't know,

1003
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 7: twenty twenty years in a row from the high school,

1004
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 7: just overlapping, and the guys that went to school up

1005
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 7: there had a ton of success. A lot of them

1006
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 7: were team captains, a lot of them played really well,

1007
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 7: and it was a really How that program was run

1008
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 7: was very similar to how the program was running Cincinnati

1009
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 7: at Saint Xavier High School of just toughness, playing hard,

1010
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 7: doing the right thing. We didn't always have the best athletes,

1011
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 7: but we played really well as a team. And when

1012
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 7: I was being recruited, Matt Ryan was there, so they

1013
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 7: were They got as high as number two. They beat

1014
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 7: Virginia Tech in Blacksburg on that pass across the field

1015
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 7: from Matt I think I think Andre Calender caught that ball,

1016
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 7: and there was just a ton of hype around them

1017
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 7: when I was being recruited, and it was good academically.

1018
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 7: It was outside of Boston. I knew guys that were there.

1019
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 7: It was a Jesuit school, just like my high school,

1020
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 7: and they were playing really really good football at the time.

1021
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: So were you an overachiever? Like, were you a beast

1022
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: in high school? As well?

1023
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Like, are any guys in that school that three to

1024
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: four hundred? Are there any freshmen or guys playing varsity?

1025
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: No?

1026
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 7: So, I mean, you know, my my freshman year, I

1027
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 7: didn't play a whole lot. We had we had since

1028
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 7: the team was so big. We had an A team

1029
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 7: and a B team. So the A team would play

1030
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 7: like on a Wednesday, and the B team would play

1031
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 7: on a Thursday, so we'd play the other freshman team. Yeah,

1032
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 7: so they played on I think on Saturdays. The varsity

1033
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 7: team played Friday nights and then we played Saturdays. Typically,

1034
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 7: I think is what happened. So freshmen don't play on

1035
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 7: varsity typically, I don't think. I don't know the last

1036
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 7: time it's happened. Occasionally you'll get like two or three

1037
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 7: sophomores play varsity, but they got to be dudes. But

1038
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 7: I would say that eighty five percent of guys don't

1039
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 7: aren't on the varsity team. Until they're juniors.

1040
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's why your goal was varsity.

1041
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm thinking you like, if you.

1042
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: Had the bug, if you had this kind of drive,

1043
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: the way everyone sees and talks about this kid must

1044
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: have been a freshman on varsity, but this around, it

1045
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: seems like an absolute powerhouse.

1046
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I loved I loved the game of football.

1047
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 7: I was small, so my freshman year I played outside linebacker,

1048
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 7: and my sophomore year they moved me to tight end

1049
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 7: because the backers that we had they were bigger than me.

1050
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: There there's better.

1051
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 7: So my sophomore year those guys all play backer and

1052
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 7: then I played tight end, and then.

1053
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: My juniories I was a good blocker. Yeah, I'll tell

1054
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: you what.

1055
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 7: I'm so glad I didn't have to play offense because

1056
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 7: all formations and trades and shifts. You play mike backer,

1057
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 7: you just line up in the middle of the field. Yeah,

1058
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 7: you don't got to go anywhere.

1059
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: So that you're also calling out all those tradesformations and ship. Yeah,

1060
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: it's but oftense. Guy.

1061
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 7: There was a guy named Ryan Long. He played right

1062
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 7: tackle and he played tight end in the year before

1063
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 7: and then I think in like training camp and then

1064
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 7: they moved me to tight end and they moved him

1065
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 7: to tackle, so he knew all the formations, so I'd

1066
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 7: line up next to him in the huddle. They called

1067
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 7: the playmac Where do I line up?

1068
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: Shit?

1069
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 7: So I Ryan Long was like my my life support? Uh,

1070
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: playing tight end and then I switched back to linebacker

1071
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 7: as a junior, and then I played like a hybrid

1072
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 7: safety as a senior.

1073
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: So, so, as a junior on varsity, were you starting

1074
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: at that point? I did? Okay, That's when when they.

1075
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 7: Was so I started to grow. I started to grow

1076
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 7: a little bit. I got a little bigger.

1077
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: How big were you going into BC?

1078
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 7: Oh Man? So I played my senior year at like

1079
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 7: two twelve and then I got to b C. I

1080
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 7: was probably like two eighteen. So I played I don't know,

1081
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 7: two eighteen, two twenty as a freshman, and then like

1082
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 7: two twenty eight as a sophomore, and then as a junior,

1083
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 7: I played like two thirty one two.

1084
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Just a thicky When did you know in college that hey,

1085
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: I might have something, I might have a future in

1086
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: the NFL.

1087
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 7: So I think you know you? So in college it

1088
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 7: was interesting because Mark Hurzlik, you guys remember him, monster. Yeah.

1089
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 7: So Mark Hurzlik was a junior. I went to spring game.

1090
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 7: He was he was going into his what was it?

1091
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Because he got done with his junior year, right, he

1092
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: was like a first round potential. The cancer thing happened. Yeah,

1093
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: he fought his way sat out a year, so he

1094
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: fought his way back.

1095
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 7: I go to spring ball going as when I'm a senior,

1096
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 7: Mark's going to be a He's he's going to be

1097
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 7: a senior in college. So it's his spring ball before

1098
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 7: his senior year, and they've been telling me, like, Mark's

1099
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 7: got like a low back hamstring thing, He's probably not

1100
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 7: going to play a lot in the spring gam I

1101
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 7: was bummed because I wanted to watch him play. So

1102
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 7: he goes and plays, a couple of snaps comes out,

1103
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 7: and then like a couple of weeks later, it's he's

1104
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 7: got ewing sarcoma bone cancer. So I get there, I

1105
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 7: get to school. Mark's out the whole year. Essentially he

1106
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 7: red shirted as he was dealing with cancer. I don't

1107
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 7: know how the guy did it. He was there all

1108
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 7: the time, worked out every day, was still big and strong,

1109
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 7: was in all the meetings. It was fantastic. As a

1110
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 7: young guy to go. Yeah, he had gone through chemo radiation, everything,

1111
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 7: but he was a great older guy to have at

1112
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 7: BC As a freshman, he wasn't playing, so there was

1113
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 7: like no stress of I mean he was dealing with

1114
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 7: cancer obviously, but yeah.

1115
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: That is a that is a football thing to say.

1116
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: The stress of playing as crazy.

1117
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 7: So so then Mark's out. Mike McLoughlin was our Mike linebacker.

1118
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 7: He's like the prototype from Massachusetts. He had the he

1119
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 7: had the cowboy collar neck roll, he had the little

1120
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 7: bull ring.

1121
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wore the diaper chin strap. No he didn't.

1122
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 7: He had a diaper chin strap and then he switched

1123
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 7: over to the pad in one. But he was like

1124
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 7: the prototype. He was coming back from an achilles, so

1125
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 7: he was going to miss the first couple games of

1126
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 7: the season and then I don't know, a week or

1127
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 7: two in the training camp are starting Mike backer. Will

1128
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 7: Thompson gets like a shoulder stinger. So I'm over with

1129
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 7: the freshman doing inside run. Get my teeth kicked in

1130
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 7: and they just needed a mic backer, so they called

1131
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 7: me over and I had to go over as like

1132
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 7: little skinny two hundred and twenty pounds Luke and play

1133
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 7: against the older guys and just get my teeth kicked in.

1134
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 7: I was like, this is awful. And my coach came

1135
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 7: up to me after the after that period and he's like,

1136
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 7: I was pretty terrible. You got to figure it out

1137
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 7: because you're going to play week one because we don't

1138
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 7: have anybody else. I'm like, what about this guy? And

1139
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 7: he's like, well.

1140
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: That guy.

1141
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 7: Uh, that guy got popped for a drug test, so

1142
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 7: he can't play either. So if you're.

1143
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: Looking at the coach saying, hey, you're being told you're

1144
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: gonna play week one, but you're like, hey, what about that.

1145
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 7: Guy, I'm like yeah, yeah, I'm like I'm my confidence

1146
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 7: is zero. So hers Lick's out, Max out, Will Thompson

1147
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 7: gets hurt, guy gets popped for a drug test, and

1148
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 7: then before you know, your top four guys are out,

1149
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 7: and so there's really no one left. So like, hey,

1150
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 7: week one, you're just gonna have to figure it out.

1151
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 7: So the first couple games a season or disaster, go

1152
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 7: down to Clemson, we play in Death Valley against C. J.

1153
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 7: Spiller and that yeah, yeah, yeah, they had Daikon Bowers

1154
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 7: and they had another they had an I forget another.

1155
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: He's back there JP's a South Carolina guy. He hates

1156
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: every time they're mentioned. They have to they have to

1157
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: be trashed on.

1158
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. So but then you make a couple of plays

1159
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 7: in those games you're like, you know, I got a chance.

1160
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 7: And then I remember my sophomore year was when I

1161
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 7: was like, Okay, you played against in Clemson against you know, CJ. Spiller,

1162
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 7: and then you just start going through the guys that

1163
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 7: you play against. You're like, these guys are all getting

1164
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 7: drafted in the NFL, Like this might actually be an

1165
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 7: opportunity for me. So it's it's just interesting how you

1166
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 7: go from high school you want to play on the

1167
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 7: varsity team do as a freshman like you're you don't,

1168
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 7: I don't really have a choice. You get in there

1169
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 7: and play, and then you're like, man, I'm this is fun.

1170
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 7: I'm starting to have some success. And then you fast forward.

1171
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 7: You kind of the next thing you look forward too

1172
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 7: is like, I love the game of football. I've had

1173
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 7: a ton of fun. I'd love to keep playing this

1174
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 7: as long as I can. So you kind of look

1175
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 7: back as probably probably three quarters of the way through

1176
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 7: my sophomore year, you look back and you're like, these

1177
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 7: are the guys that I played against, this has been

1178
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 7: their career in the NFL, Like maybe I got a chance.

1179
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: So there wasn't like a specific play in mind that

1180
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 2: you made a big play and you're like, oh shit, okay,

1181
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: I can do this. It was a reflection period for you. Yeah,

1182
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: but you're to look back and kind of be like,

1183
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 2: all right, all these guys are playing in the NFL.

1184
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: This means I can do X, Y and Z as well. Yeah.

1185
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 7: I just think you you know, you look at it

1186
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 7: and you're like, I've played in like big games. We

1187
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,479
Speaker 7: played at Clemson, we played at Florida State, we played

1188
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 7: at Notre Dame, and you're like, these are the these

1189
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 7: are the teams in the situations that you grew up

1190
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 7: watching and now you get a chance to be in them.

1191
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 7: And it's something I always tell guys, like, you need

1192
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 7: to enjoy the game because when it's gone, it's gone.

1193
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 7: So I was so when I was playing, so laser

1194
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 7: focused on football in the process that you don't ever

1195
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 7: take a second to really look back and say, damn,

1196
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 7: like that was that was pretty cool?

1197
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, because your sophomore in junior year, correct

1198
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but you led the NC double

1199
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: and tackles.

1200
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we just we were on the field a lot.

1201
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 7: We were on the field a lot. We didn't you

1202
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 7: kind of we kind of really didn't have a choice.

1203
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 7: You know, you played eighty ninety snaps like you got

1204
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 7: more opportunities. Especially.

1205
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1206
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 7: The other thing too, is like we weren't ahead a

1207
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 7: lot late. So you know what happens at the end

1208
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 7: of the game. Their team's run four minute, they're gonna

1209
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 7: run the ball and they got they got five or

1210
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 7: six run plays, and they're gonna run power, they're gonna lead,

1211
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 7: and they're gonna run stretch. It's like perfect, all right,

1212
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 7: here we go.

1213
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: Buddy.

1214
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: Every time he like you'd see a statueet on like

1215
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: league leaders, and he's sitting there every week averaging like

1216
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: fifteen tackles a game. That is I'm thinking, who was

1217
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: this loukey from?

1218
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 7: He must be on the field a lot.

1219
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, must like the excuse to the competitor makes like,

1220
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: oh they got Well, you know.

1221
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 7: What's funny is you look at all those things and

1222
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 7: like people are lying if they don't look at that stuff. Right,

1223
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 7: So then I went and looked at it one time

1224
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 7: and it had number of snaps played, and it was

1225
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 7: like we had a gazillion. And then you go look

1226
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 7: at like Alabama that got like Dante high Towers at

1227
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 7: Alabama he had like half the amount of snaps play

1228
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 7: that we did. Chris Borland had a million.

1229
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: Dog Well you were here is twenty thirteen.

1230
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 7: Twenty twelve, twenty that linebacker class was strong.

1231
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys had because I was twenty thirteen while

1232
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: I was undrafted. But twenty twelve, you guys said.

1233
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 7: It was you, so it was Dante, and then Bobby

1234
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 7: got drafted in the second round. Wagner, Levante, David, Mario, Davis. Yeah,

1235
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 7: there were some. I'm sure I'm and I'm probably missing

1236
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 7: some guys, but those.

1237
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: But those top four that you just said tomorrow Davis, Levante, David, yourself,

1238
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner.

1239
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 7: Three of those guys, I mean to Mario is still

1240
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 7: playing with the Saints, and that dude he's you look

1241
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 7: at his stats and it's like, oh my gosh, like

1242
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 7: what he's been able to do. Same thing with Bobby.

1243
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 7: The guy that I never feel like it's enough credit

1244
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 7: is Levante. I love Levonte. Look at go look at

1245
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 7: his his sacks, his force fumbles and his fumble recoveries.

1246
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 7: It's unbelievable, dude.

1247
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: He is always around the football.

1248
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 7: He's a great dude.

1249
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's phenomenal. Yeah.

1250
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Yesterday the Bucks their profile posted like his stats. He

1251
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: has sixteen hundred tackles right now, there's only eight guys

1252
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: in the history of the game to have over sixteen

1253
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: hundred tackles. Him and Bobby Wagner are both still doing it.

1254
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 7: Unbelieva. Who those Yeah, and they're not slowing down. Bobby

1255
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 7: had over one hundred last year. I think he just

1256
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 7: resigned and the Levante sign another deal with Tampa, which

1257
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 7: is cool because you know, as great of his career

1258
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 7: as he's had, he's been on the same team the

1259
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 7: whole time.

1260
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's cool jevity that he's had. Yeah, and

1261
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: and not get jaded over kind of being overlooked by

1262
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: so many guys yourself. At points, Bobby.

1263
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: I was tell JP he has one Pro Bowl I believe,

1264
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: and it was as an alternate. But it's such bullshit

1265
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: because he's like one of the most underrated players of

1266
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: all time.

1267
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 7: Well, the thing that hurts him is that he he's

1268
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 7: classified because they were four to three. He was an

1269
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 7: outside linebacker. Yeah, so like the prototype outside linebacker is like,

1270
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 7: you know, the rush and the guys got fifteen sacks.

1271
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: Right, that's where yeah, those those salmon willis kind of

1272
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 2: get screwed over in the Pro Bowl because the guys

1273
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: at their hand of the dirt well.

1274
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 7: And the funniest part about the Pro Bowl is that

1275
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 7: they those off the ball backers. They're listed as outside linebackers.

1276
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 7: The only rush it's only a four down look, so

1277
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 7: those guys have to play off the ball. Yeah, they're

1278
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 7: playing a four three and Justin Houston is playing off

1279
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 7: the ball at five yards like, what are you doing?

1280
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know they at the fourth quarter of the game.

1281
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: If it's tight though, I'm about to take yeah exactly,

1282
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: because it is. It is a little bit of a war.

1283
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,799
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1292
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: with your friends, because, guys, right now, March Madness is happening,

1293
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: Baseball is getting in full effect, Torpedo bats, home.

1294
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: Runs, all of it.

1295
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: You're hanging with your friends, You're at a tailgate, you're

1296
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: in there, you're in their backyard, you're in the house,

1297
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: you're at a bar. No matter where you are. Neutral

1298
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: is the drink you want to have in your hand

1299
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: when you walk through that door. Neutral, keep it tasty.

1300
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: Were you you at IMG training for the Combine?

1301
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1302
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: Is that where you were? Yeah? That's why I went

1303
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: as well. And that was like I think my first

1304
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: introduction to the luke Keickley. You had like yourself a

1305
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: little mirror, oh gosh on the wall and they're like,

1306
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: you know that guy is we had?

1307
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 7: That was so fun, dude.

1308
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: IM really is an awesome place because there's no like

1309
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: I was a big time party. You're in college and

1310
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: then you know, got a little straight as I got

1311
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: into the league. But like when you're in braden'son Florida,

1312
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: there's like newly weds and nearly dead. There's no one

1313
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: between there's no nightlife or nothing. So it was me

1314
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: and like the thirty other guys that were training. Awesome,

1315
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: that's all we had. We had like a small, little shitty.

1316
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: Those little apartments are just off of the iron. Get

1317
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: the golf cart. Yeah, the golf cart you rip it around.

1318
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 7: It was the first time you had a little freedom.

1319
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of golf cart in your own place,

1320
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: but it's also well regimented. I loved it. There was

1321
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: that Were you thinking about tween there in Exos.

1322
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 7: No, because the guys so occurs, like and then Anthony Costanzo.

1323
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: Gangster Boston College.

1324
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were the year year ahead of me in

1325
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 7: the draft. So Anthony got drafted first round by the Colts.

1326
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 7: And then Mark Mark was went to the Giants and

1327
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 7: those guys trained at IMG and and I went to

1328
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 7: school with them, and I was like, guys Exos or IMG,

1329
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 7: and they're like just good to IMG. We went there

1330
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 7: was sick. We enjoyed it. It was awesome. It was sick.

1331
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're entire Yeah, you work there because IMG, I

1332
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: feel like they do it better than anybody else. As

1333
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: far as like getting guys looking for the combine because

1334
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: they don't just do the weightlifting and the running. But

1335
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: they're also they have a classrooms to go over media stuff,

1336
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: almost improvisation classes. Okay, you're thrown off with this, what

1337
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: do you do now? What do you say to X,

1338
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: Y and Z? They bring up maybe some things that

1339
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: aren't so great about you, like how are you going

1340
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 2: to attack this situation? So I think IMG was such

1341
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: a great experience.

1342
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 7: It's so funny you do all that work. And then

1343
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 7: when I worked with the team the first year I

1344
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 7: got done planning. I worked a team in the scouting department,

1345
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 7: and you can pull up all your profiles if you

1346
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 7: know coming and you know every every you know uh

1347
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 7: report written on you and highth weight, speed and all

1348
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 7: your tape. And so I was like, I got bored

1349
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 7: one day. I looked at it, and I looked at

1350
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 7: my combine interview with the Panthers. It's a disaster. Really Yeah,

1351
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 7: I was like sitting, I had my glasses on, I

1352
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 7: was nervous, I was probably sweating, and I was supers

1353
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 7: like they'd asked me a question bike, Yes that's cover four,

1354
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 7: And I'm like, gosh, you suck. You sound so bad

1355
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 7: right now.

1356
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: That's how Obviously getting drafted like you, I met with

1357
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: the Titans, and I was probably the same way, but

1358
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: a year removed. Seeing those same familiar faces now in

1359
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: that room. Yeah, timage you are, Oh you're so scared man,

1360
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: And because the train station is no joke. Yeah like

1361
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: that that that combine experience was your Did you have

1362
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: a good combine experience?

1363
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 7: I really yeah, I really enjoyed it. I think that

1364
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 7: first night of those interviews, because you have the train station,

1365
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 7: which is like they can just come and grab you, obviously,

1366
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 7: and then the one on ones or they put you

1367
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 7: in the room where it's only fifteen minutes and half

1368
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 7: the first two minutes, three minutes of them introducing themselves,

1369
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 7: in the last two or three minutes of them leave

1370
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 7: you leaving, so it's only like a ten minute window.

1371
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 7: And then they're peppering you with questions and I'm nervous.

1372
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 7: You're it's your job interview and you're trying to put

1373
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 7: your best foot forward. And I was just nervous, and

1374
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 7: I was sitting in there just and I was like,

1375
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 7: I would not draft that guy.

1376
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what the combine is so crazy? As everyone

1377
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: sees what happens when you're running and benching and jumping

1378
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: all that, but really all the scary shit happens four

1379
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: days prior running. When you get to go run, you're

1380
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: finally like, thank god it's over, because you get there

1381
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: the first day and it's like kind of introductions. Hey,

1382
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. This is your land road,

1383
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: this is the train station works, this is how your

1384
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: official meetings work. Four I am, you have a piss test. Yeah,

1385
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: so it's like the number one rule is I just

1386
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: do not miss it and make sure you don't piece.

1387
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: So you I remember I was roommates with Zach Martin

1388
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: h and we took shoes and we put it on

1389
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: top of the toilet seat just in case you wake

1390
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: up in the middle of night and try to go pee,

1391
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: and we would be like a little countabill of buddies,

1392
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: make sure we're all up together. Yeah, it's what you

1393
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: need because you're nervous because you're up at four am

1394
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: for a drug test, and then it's meetings all day,

1395
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: MRIs the middle of the day and then back to

1396
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: the train station everything else.

1397
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 7: Well, were you a weight guy, did you have to

1398
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 7: keep weight on?

1399
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: I was always a guy that had to gain weight.

1400
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, they get you there, and then

1401
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 7: you can't eat as much as you typically do. There's

1402
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 7: no scale, so then when you have to go weigh in,

1403
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 7: you don't know how much you weigh right, and they're like, Luke,

1404
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 7: you need to be over two hundred and forty pounds.

1405
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 7: So you're just in there chugging.

1406
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: And they have the worst fucking snacks. But it's all

1407
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: like less cups and skittles, and she's like, I guess

1408
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: this is what I'm doing.

1409
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 7: I gotta do it. I gotta drink, I gotta eat something.

1410
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always did a great job having like food

1411
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: wait for you, having stuff, a little area where you

1412
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: go with a backpack.

1413
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 7: And they just stuffed it with everything. I'll tell you

1414
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 7: what the combine was. I loved it. It was so

1415
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 7: cool because you grow up watching it. You don't really

1416
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 7: grow up watching training at IMG, like you don't really

1417
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 7: understand that. But you grow up and you watch these

1418
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 7: guys run the forty and jump and bench and do

1419
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 7: all that stuff, and then you get there and you're like,

1420
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 7: this is sweet. I get to do It's.

1421
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: Like your step to the NFL load of MRIs. I

1422
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: had to do it.

1423
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 7: I had to do them on my knees and I

1424
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 7: had something on my elbow, but like not a not

1425
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 7: a ton.

1426
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 2: I was pretty lucky.

1427
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: It's funny too, how much everybody? Because I know Levante

1428
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: him being like an undersized guy. Guy's just obsessing over

1429
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: hitting a certain weight. You got to weigh in just

1430
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: so you hit the metric, like Levante always played like

1431
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: in the like like two twenty to two twenty five,

1432
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, I have to be like two hundred

1433
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: and thirty three pounds.

1434
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

1435
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 7: I never weighed to forty ever again in my life.

1436
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but on that little stat sheet says two.

1437
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 7: Forty yea every don't don't skip me a pound.

1438
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1439
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 7: When you step on the scale two and you saw

1440
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 7: two forty two, how juice that thing kept ticking up?

1441
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, yes, dude, you know another

1442
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: thing that's kind of a sleeper. Did they have the

1443
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: little egg pods? Yeah?

1444
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 7: You do that afterwards.

1445
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we would do those IMG like every couple

1446
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: of weeks. I guess if anything's gonna fucking change. But

1447
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: my body fat would be like I don't know, like

1448
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: twenty or nineteen or something like that. Okay, but it

1449
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: had to be in those rooms. They had to have

1450
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: a certain pressure for those that correctly. So when I

1451
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: got to the combine, they haven't made this open room

1452
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: where it was like being opened and closed a bunch.

1453
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: So my body fat was right at like fifteen percent. Yes,

1454
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I made a four percent jump in

1455
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: a week. That's crazy, I thought I was. I've on

1456
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: my ship. Yeah, I've been on it. What was the

1457
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: most nerve wracking part for you at the combine from

1458
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: from the like athletics standpoint.

1459
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 7: Oh man, the probably the forty yeah, because that was

1460
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 7: the question was how much you're gonna weigh and what

1461
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 7: are you gonna run? So I actually had to run it.

1462
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 7: I ran the forty three times.

1463
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: You messed up on one.

1464
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 7: So the first one I run, it goes really well.

1465
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 7: Second one, because you know you can't see it, you

1466
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 7: got to find ways to like get it. You know,

1467
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 7: you look at your phone and somebody texts you, but.

1468
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: It's not They don't do that anymore. Do you watch

1469
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: it now? Now they have people in the stands and

1470
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: they show your force. That's kind of because it was

1471
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: the same way for me too, where you go up

1472
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: and like a couple of the guys who are like, hey,

1473
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: what I run like, they're saying X, Y and Z.

1474
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 7: Yeah. So then second one comes up, and you know,

1475
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 7: when you get in that forty start, there's holes because

1476
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 7: everybody's been there, so everybody takes like the same, like

1477
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 7: first two steps, so there's kind of an indentation in

1478
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 7: the ground. And I was off just to half step

1479
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 7: to the left, and I took my first step out

1480
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 7: and I stepped kind of in the whole sideways and

1481
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 7: I turned right real fast and almost ran into the

1482
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 7: the laser reader and then straighten it out and I

1483
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 7: ran like it was I ran like four to nine,

1484
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh gosh, that was.

1485
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: You said that was the second one.

1486
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 7: That was the second one?

1487
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: Was the first one. The first one was like four

1488
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: or five.

1489
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 7: And then I go four to nine and this guy

1490
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 7: comes up to me and he's like, he's like, hey,

1491
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 7: you're gonna probably have to run another one. We got

1492
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 7: a bad reading on either the first or the second one.

1493
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, no.

1494
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: Did you know at the point too, that you had

1495
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: ran a four or five in the first one.

1496
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew I ran well, and then the second

1497
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 7: one I knew I stepped in the hole, and I'm like, okay,

1498
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 7: this kind of makes sense. So then everybody had to

1499
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 7: go run their second one. So I was the last

1500
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 7: guy after the last guy in the in the line

1501
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 7: to go run again. And I ran it again and

1502
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 7: I looked at it. Guys like, how is that. He's like,

1503
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 7: you're gonna be good. I was like, all right, perfect good.

1504
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: So four.

1505
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, He's like he's like, the middle one must have

1506
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 7: gotten messed up. But it was I stepped in. I

1507
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 7: stepped in a hole. I stepped my step was bad

1508
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 7: or something. But you know it's so nerve wracking. That's like,

1509
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 7: don't that matter?

1510
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: What's that you didn't want to focus on getting a

1511
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: tan before the combine? Of course?

1512
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 6: Not?

1513
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 7: You look faster that.

1514
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: Did you have the task? Did you last in the

1515
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: four fours?

1516
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 7: No? At I I don't think we ever really ran.

1517
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 7: I think we ran a forty like the first week

1518
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 7: we were there, and then everything was just segmented out. Yeah,

1519
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 7: so you work on starts flying twenties, you know, flying forties,

1520
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 7: so you never really get a true number for what

1521
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 7: you're gonna run, but you have an idea like I

1522
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 7: felt good, I felt strong, I felt my starts were good,

1523
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 7: and then it's like just go. It looks so stiff

1524
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 7: running it, but.

1525
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: I know because it will, and I am You're trying

1526
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: to do everything when you're training. You're like elbows and

1527
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: this and that and relax your face. I remember I

1528
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: ran a forty when we first the forty IMG, and

1529
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: I was like a five to one.

1530
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1531
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: I was like, there's no fucking way. I'm like, I'm

1532
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: a sub five guy, no doubt. But I was like

1533
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: trying to like mechanically do exactly what they were saying

1534
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: the whole time to where it was just awful.

1535
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 7: Part of me thinks that they click it a little

1536
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 7: bit slower.

1537
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: I thought the same.

1538
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 7: So they're like, no, you ran you ran five four,

1539
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 7: So then when you run four nine, they're like, look

1540
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 7: what we did half second.

1541
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: That's we're the greatest thing.

1542
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 7: They were unbelievable. Lauren Seagrave was was he there? He

1543
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 7: was unbelievable, older older guy, right, Yeah, he was always

1544
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 7: wore orange, always Warren.

1545
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: She had the really shining shoes. And then who was

1546
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: the chick from London? Did you have the girl? Yeah?

1547
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 7: She was a yeah, she was a sin.

1548
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. She was a great running coach. I can't remember

1549
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: he name right now, which kind of sucks.

1550
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 7: It was I had a ton of like everything that

1551
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 7: they did there was a reason why they did it.

1552
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 7: It's not like we just showed up and they're like,

1553
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 7: all right, you're going to do this and right. And

1554
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 7: I remember running like the short shuttle. It was footwork.

1555
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 7: It was like seven or eight.

1556
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: Steps and.

1557
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 7: The five in the five ten five.

1558
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: Because the fact if I was like two three two

1559
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: or something like something, they had like numbers to it.

1560
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, you're.

1561
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: Somebody who could like skip over to the first five

1562
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: and just get in like two steps.

1563
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 7: You're like, yeah, this was amazing, like all that stuff

1564
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 7: that you put in for you know, there's Laurence c Grave.

1565
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: Right there that Yeah, he is awesome.

1566
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 7: He was great, dude.

1567
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you felt this way, but

1568
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,479
Speaker 2: after I ran the forty and I got the time

1569
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: that I wanted, it felt like everything else was just

1570
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: cake after that, because it's so stressful when you're standing

1571
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: up because we had what number were you do you

1572
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: remember for the combine?

1573
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 7: Oh? I don't so what I was thirteen maybe, I

1574
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 7: don't know.

1575
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, nineteen nineteen, I was twenty three, and my whole

1576
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 2: thing was like, I just don't want to go first, yea.

1577
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I'm twenty three, last name

1578
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: is Lawan, I'll be I'll be solid. Well, they broke

1579
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: it up groups, so it was one through twenty two.

1580
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: So I was the first guy to go in the

1581
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: second group and they're like, we're all kind of warming up.

1582
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: Everyone's so stressed out. Yeah, that's Beyonce want and you

1583
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: see that tan.

1584
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 7: You look Yeah, you look like you look like you're

1585
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 7: about fifteen percent right there.

1586
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what the body comp said. But that

1587
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 2: chick that I can't remember her name, the one from London,

1588
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: she's like, hey, when you run over the back of

1589
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: the platform and have your Beyonce walk, like every the

1590
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: whole combine everyone, you're waiting on everybody. Yeah, but once

1591
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: you do that, it's now your time. You take as

1592
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: long as you need whatever. And so I took all

1593
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: the time in the world because I was my heart's

1594
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: racing right there, my little gazelle.

1595
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 7: How'd you think your walk was? You give the thumbs out?

1596
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: I knew I was. I was thinking, abou okay, steps,

1597
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: you're moving your little feedback and you're just thinking, please

1598
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: don't get called back on this start. That was what

1599
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: I was most nervous about because learning from IMG, they

1600
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: basically tell you like your first start's gonna be your

1601
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: best one or your first two. After that you kind

1602
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: of like your brain fucks up, like your CNS or something.

1603
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: So it was once I ran that and I got

1604
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: back to the boys and hey, they're saying four nine

1605
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: right now, I'm like, all right, I know I'm selling. Yeah,

1606
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: I feel I feel good about it.

1607
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: Is there a team you felt like you knocked it

1608
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,480
Speaker 1: out of the park with in the interview process?

1609
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 2: Oh?

1610
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 7: Man, you know what?

1611
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: Not?

1612
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 7: Really, I don't really that was I don't remember that.

1613
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 7: I thought the stuff with the Panthers went really good

1614
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 7: because so Ron Rivera obviously play with the Bears. My

1615
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 7: high school road roommate was Mike Morrissey. He was two

1616
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 7: years older than I am. I was and he was

1617
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 7: a great older guy. So when we went on trips

1618
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 7: on the road, he was my roommate for away games.

1619
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 7: His dad played with on the eighty five Bears. To

1620
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 7: played with the Bears like ten years and he played

1621
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 7: linebacker with Rivera. So I remember going to the combine

1622
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 7: and be like, I don't know any of these guys,

1623
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 7: but I know that Jim Morrissey and Mike Morrisey have

1624
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 7: said really good things about coach Rivera and his experience

1625
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 7: with them and their friendship and playing together in Chicago.

1626
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 7: So I'm like, at least I have one guy that

1627
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 7: I kind of have a connection too. So that one

1628
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 7: was out of all of them. It was probably the

1629
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 7: easiest one after I said how bad my interview was

1630
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 7: on that video. But I felt probably the most comfortable

1631
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 7: with them because I felt like there was a little

1632
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 7: bit of a connection there.

1633
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: Did you know, did you feel really confident that I

1634
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: was going to be the Panthers that grabbed you in

1635
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: the first round.

1636
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 7: I thought there was a chance, So you kind of

1637
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 7: looked at like teams that I I took a visit

1638
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 7: to Carolina, so I met with them at the combine.

1639
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 7: It took a visit down there pre draft, and I

1640
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 7: kind of knew like nine to fifteen to twenty because

1641
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 7: fifteen was Seattle and they drafted Bruce Irving. Bruce Irving

1642
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 7: and then they ended up with Bobby in the second round,

1643
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 7: so they were going to draft a linebacker. I thought

1644
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 7: Buffalo was at ten I think they drafted Stephan Gilmour

1645
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 7: from sc and so I thought it was going to

1646
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 7: be one of those teams. I also took a visit

1647
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 7: to Tennessee, so I think it was oh Man.

1648
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: They actually were that was yeah. But they did draft

1649
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: a linebacker and it was Zach Brown.

1650
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: Zach Brown. He was Brown.

1651
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets dude Trent Richardson.

1652
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. I don't know where they drafted what point?

1653
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, scrolled down a little bit. I want to see

1654
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: what they took.

1655
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the Titans, right, Kendall?

1656
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: Right?

1657
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, would have got him anyway.

1658
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: You knew, yeah, true, should have traded out. Yeah, but yeah,

1659
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: so you do you did you have any did you

1660
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: have a place you wanted to go? Like you looked

1661
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: at it.

1662
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 7: I thought Carolina would have been cool. I had some

1663
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 7: family that was down there. I was familiar. I liked

1664
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 7: it because Iran. That was the biggest thing that thought

1665
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 7: was cool was that I knew him and they spoke

1666
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 7: so highly of him. And he was a linebacker and

1667
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 7: he coached like Irlacker and Briggs. Yeah, and he's with

1668
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 7: San Diego names with the Bears. It just it felt

1669
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 7: I was like that'd be a cool place.

1670
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: How was it when you first got there? How how

1671
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,839
Speaker 1: was he as a as a coach, because.

1672
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 7: Since you were a backer, he was phenomenal. He was

1673
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 7: like he did a really good job of separating being

1674
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 7: the head coach, but also like he wanted to be

1675
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 7: a player again, so he'd be in the locker room,

1676
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 7: he talked to guys, he was, he'd have you over

1677
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 7: to the house. He just made you feel very comfortable.

1678
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 7: So I always felt like, you know, he was obviously

1679
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 7: the head coach, but he felt like a guy that

1680
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 7: he just wanted He wanted to help you. He wanted

1681
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 7: to put you in a position to be successful. It

1682
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 7: was awesome. I couldn't have been in a better spot

1683
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 7: as far as just the people that were there. Sean

1684
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 7: mcdermo is a defensive coordinator. I don't think that I

1685
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 7: could have ended up in a better system for to

1686
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 7: play linebacker with that four down look. I played Mike,

1687
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 7: which was if I was playing Will. It was struggled

1688
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 7: because in space you're matched up on receivers. It's just

1689
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 7: bad news. But you can run, Yeah, you can run straight.

1690
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: But Jo Jones did you know he did what he did?

1691
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: But everybody's getting there.

1692
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 7: I'm sure, I'm sure they can pull a picture of

1693
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 7: that up.

1694
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: There.

1695
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: It is.

1696
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 7: It's yeah there, you know that's that's not even the

1697
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 7: best one. There's one that's like two pictures, three pictures

1698
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 7: to the right on that search. That one looks better.

1699
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 7: That one looks matter of fact, take how much higher

1700
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 7: he is there? Take me to the ground.

1701
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: He just high pointed it because you're running with him.

1702
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 7: So it's quarters and you're competitive by one, so it's quarters.

1703
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 7: And if you have speed at number three, which Julio

1704
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 7: definitely accounts for that, you get a backside the backside

1705
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 7: quarters defender on the hash helps you out.

1706
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: Get your three d DEGs.

1707
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, we called it. We called it a fax call.

1708
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 7: But yeah, same thing right now, great, you understand my struggle.

1709
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 7: And they motioned the empty and I'm like, oh man,

1710
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 7: so for.

1711
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: The people listening when they motioned empty one, now there's

1712
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: no more facts or there's no more help from that.

1713
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, the emotion to emotions, this looks so this look.

1714
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 7: You know what Matt Ryan's saying right here is my

1715
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 7: guy's just better than all of you because he looks

1716
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 7: like he's covered.

1717
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 6: Right.

1718
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you are covering.

1719
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 7: So I'm running down the field. I'm like, man, I

1720
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 7: am in good shape. They throw that ball and I'm like,

1721
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 7: I am in great shape. I can't see him, but

1722
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 7: I know he's behind me. I reach up and all

1723
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 7: I hear is and it's the ball hitting his hands

1724
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 7: and me falling down and my face hitting the ground,

1725
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 7: and I just hear the crowd explode and I run

1726
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 7: and I and I remember I picked my head up,

1727
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 7: and the only thing I remember him seeing is like,

1728
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 7: you know, when these guys used to score and they

1729
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 7: they're like this as they run the band zone. I

1730
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 7: just saw him do that. Look at me, just face face,

1731
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 7: face down, and I'm trying to I'm hearing the crowd

1732
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 7: scream right now. And then I picked my head up,

1733
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 7: did you? And they right at the end, they show

1734
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 7: him kind of right there. That's what I see when

1735
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 7: I look up, I see that. I see it says

1736
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 7: I can't even see the name Jones because he's tilted

1737
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 7: forward like that. And then I get to the sideline

1738
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 7: and my coach is like, hey, you know you're supposed

1739
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 7: to be on him, right I was like, you know, I.

1740
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: Was, I know I was. That is the craziest. You're

1741
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: a mic linebacker.

1742
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: You're coaching Keekley and Julio Jones and scores on a

1743
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: competitive ball, and you're like.

1744
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 7: I mean a competitive competitive competitive is a nice way

1745
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 7: to say it. Mean it looked competitive, and then when

1746
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 7: the ball got thrown that the competition kind of went

1747
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 7: out the window a little bit.

1748
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: Let this play a little bit.

1749
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 7: I'm running, he's running like three quarter speed. I'm running

1750
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 7: literally as fast as I can and he's still running

1751
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 7: away from me.

1752
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: Your safety over the top was trying to get in

1753
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: on the action. Yeah, it was just I mean, he

1754
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: looks covered right there.

1755
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 7: It's he's he's covered until Matt right, he just throws

1756
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 7: the ball up for him.

1757
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1758
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 7: Look, I'm trying to pull through the I'm trying to

1759
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 7: pull through the pocket.

1760
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: Stab the pocket.

1761
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 7: I'm trying to pull through the pocket. He just kind

1762
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 7: of big boyed me there a little bit.

1763
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: God, I mean, you see a guy like Julio Jones,

1764
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: you don't have to get me.

1765
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 7: You don't have to give me excuse. You just say

1766
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 7: that you got you got, you got that. That was

1767
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 7: on Randy Moss's You got Moss the next week. So

1768
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 7: you always want to be on you got Moss as

1769
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 7: a little kid, but not for that reason, that.

1770
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: Way at all. Was that what is like your toughest play,

1771
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: that the worst moment you've had the worst? Was that it?

1772
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 6: No?

1773
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 7: That wasn't it? Because I kind of felt like it

1774
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 7: the best I could have done. Yeah, you know, I

1775
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 7: give a strong it's just kind of like, hey, hey, man, like.

1776
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: Just better than that moment.

1777
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, so's yeah, he's just better. I remember my rookie year.

1778
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 7: We were playing Seattle and it was Russ. Russ was

1779
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 7: a quarterback. Russ and I train together at the combine.

1780
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 7: For the combine, I remember he breaks contain. He's running

1781
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 7: to his right. He breaks contain. Obviously he's running down

1782
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 7: the field. I'm in coverage, so he crossed the line

1783
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 7: of scrimmage. I'm I was like, I'm gonna crush him.

1784
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 7: And he's running and he's running like almost straight at me.

1785
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 7: I've got a great angle and he's running like this

1786
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 7: and I'm running like that. I'm like, I'm gonna crush him.

1787
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 7: The last second, right before about to him, he puts

1788
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 7: his left foot, left foot in the ground and cuts

1789
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 7: back this way, and I'm getting ready to just like

1790
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 7: fall into the tackle and I turn and look, guess

1791
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 7: who was running mock five at my face? That Russ

1792
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:58,440
Speaker 7: set up Mike Robinson, remember him, Penn State guy. He

1793
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 7: he hit me. He hit me so hard that I

1794
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 7: don't really I didn't even feel it. It wasn't a

1795
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 7: dirty hit. He didn't me in the head. He just

1796
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 7: hit me and I just crumpled to the ground. And

1797
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 7: I remember like looking up and he just smiled at me,

1798
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 7: and I was like, you got me. He's like, I know,

1799
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 7: I know. So it was, uh, that was that was

1800
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 7: you talked about like, welcome to the NFL, your rookie moment. Yeah,

1801
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 7: that was one of them. And then we played, uh

1802
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 7: played Tampa my rookie year at home. It was it

1803
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 7: was we were up at the end of the game.

1804
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 7: We were probably up six or seven points. They ran

1805
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 7: a vertical ball, three verticals in cover four and I

1806
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 7: was matched up on Vincent Jackson and Josh Freeman throws

1807
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 7: his great back shoulder ball to him, and I thought

1808
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 7: I had him covered in college. You you're close to him,

1809
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 7: he's covered. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know what

1810
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 7: a back shoulder ball was. And so I'm running with

1811
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 7: him and then all of a sudden, he spins, he

1812
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 7: opens up, and he puts his hands backside and he

1813
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 7: catches this football. I was like, how that happened? Like

1814
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 7: some of that stuff. You score a touchdown, they tied

1815
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 7: it up, they go to overtime, we lose an overtime.

1816
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 7: So it was just like one of those things where

1817
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 7: you don't you're just naive, and then something happens in

1818
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,919
Speaker 7: a game and you're like, Oh, that's what they were,

1819
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 7: that's what a back shoulder ball was. In that ball

1820
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 7: I was. I mean, I felt like I was in

1821
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 7: great position, but the ball was literally perfect. My awareness

1822
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 7: was zero, and he just put it on his back shoulder.

1823
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 7: Vincent Jackson opened up and caught that ball, and I

1824
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 7: was like, that sucks.

1825
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 1: So did you really not have a TV in your apartment?

1826
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: You're rookie?

1827
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 7: That's so uh No, I had. I had everything I had.

1828
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 7: What happened, So what happened? So what happened was so

1829
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 7: it happened going into my the the room rumor was

1830
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 7: going into my second year. I've moved apartments like and

1831
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 7: ended end of July, so then you know, going into July,

1832
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 7: you're going in the training camp for the first like

1833
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 7: three or four weeks of the season, and I just

1834
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 7: it was on the back burner for to set up cable.

1835
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 7: I had my Internet set up, but I was like,

1836
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 7: I don't need cable for this first like six eight

1837
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 7: weeks because I'm never gonna be here. So I didn't

1838
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 7: have it set up. And somehow one of my buddies

1839
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 7: got wind of it and it just turned in this

1840
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 7: It just turned into this whole thing. Where so that

1841
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 7: came from one of your buddies somehow. Room, Yeah, it

1842
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 7: came in the locker room, like hey, did you watch?

1843
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 7: Like somebody's like, hey, you've been watching whatever. I was like, no,

1844
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 7: I don't have I don't have the cable set up

1845
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 7: in my teav in my in my apartment. Yet they're

1846
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 7: like why not.

1847
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: Was like I just moved.

1848
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 7: I didn't have time to set it up. Like we

1849
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 7: just went to training camp, like not here very much anyway.

1850
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 7: So when I get back from after training camp, I'll

1851
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 7: get it set up. So that was like what had happened.

1852
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 7: Everyone's like, you didn't have TV. I'm like, I'm not

1853
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 7: a psychopath.

1854
01:19:59,320 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 2: Very much.

1855
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 7: Frame like that, Yeah, which is I.

1856
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: Just pictured you in a carpeted room with a blow

1857
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 2: up mattress. Yeah, maybe a hyperbaric chamber.

1858
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, just paper plates in a microwave and macaroni and

1859
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 7: cheese and ramen microwave.

1860
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: It takes out too much nutrients for you. Yeah, there

1861
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: it is right there. God, yeah, that that is one

1862
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: of the things that like, look at just I mean,

1863
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: that's an insane throwing cash.

1864
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 7: And then they went for two. They're down, they're down,

1865
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 7: They're down eight. So then they got the two conversion afterwards,

1866
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 7: and I ran into the goalposts and that was just

1867
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 7: like insult the injury. Like I just got I just

1868
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,480
Speaker 7: got worked and I just got crushed by the post.

1869
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 2: Watch this, look at my leg.

1870
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 7: God sucks. And then you turn around and then you

1871
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 7: turn and then you look up and you're like, he

1872
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 7: definitely caught it. And look at the official. It's like

1873
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 7: he was waiting to do that to make sure you're

1874
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 7: taking a peek for Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he scored.

1875
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: Was like nobody touched that ball. Oh dang, look at me.

1876
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 7: I'm like, gosh, I suck.

1877
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 2: Good hit flexibility though, Or was twenty one, so it

1878
01:20:58,600 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: didn't really matter.

1879
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: The defensive Player Rookie of the Year though.

1880
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 7: But luckily they didn't see that play.

1881
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how awesome is that?

1882
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 7: It was cool? It was fun. I mean it was uh.

1883
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 7: You just to have the opportunity to play like that

1884
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 7: as much as I did as a rookie was so cool. Yeah,

1885
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 7: in a great system. It was. That system was set

1886
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 7: up for linebackers to just run around. It was cover three,

1887
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 7: cover four, a little bit of man. We had really

1888
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 7: good guys in front of us. Our defensive line was sick,

1889
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 7: and they called plays that highlighted the linebackers. It was

1890
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 7: Thomas and I. So John Beeson, I'll talk about who

1891
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 7: I talk about, Like, so go back to college with

1892
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 7: Hurzlik and Mike mcloffin, like great older veteran guys that

1893
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 7: had no their pride never got in the way. They

1894
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 7: were just there to help you. Mike Morrissey the guy

1895
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 7: I talked about that new Ron and those guys were

1896
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 7: so helpful. And then when I got to Carolina, it

1897
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 7: was the same way. So when I got there, it

1898
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 7: was James Anderson was coming off her career year, Beast

1899
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 7: was coming back from an achilles All Pro Pro Bowl

1900
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 7: or like the dude in the middle, like the stud.

1901
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 7: And then Thomas was coming back from his thirty ACL

1902
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 7: Thomas at full speed was what Thomas was for sixteen

1903
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 7: years in the NFL, and then me, So there was

1904
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 7: four of us. I was the rookie. BS and TD

1905
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 7: were coming back from substantial injuries and achilles in an

1906
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 7: ACL and then James excuse me, was gonna play obviously healthy,

1907
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 7: had a great year coming off a good year. So

1908
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 7: I remember I showed up my rookie one of my

1909
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 7: first days there. TD comes in and he's like, hey,

1910
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 7: I'm Thomas, here's my number.

1911
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: Lock me in.

1912
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 7: You need anything, let me know. And I was like,

1913
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 7: that's just an older guy coming in and like checking

1914
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 7: a box and doing all this stuff. But it was

1915
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 7: he was the best helpful talk to you through things,

1916
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 7: taught you stuff, where to who to talk to to,

1917
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 7: you know, chiropractors, where to just where to do everything

1918
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 7: in Charlotte. He was fantastic. How to practice, how to

1919
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 7: be tough, how to play hurt like all that stuff.

1920
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 7: And then Beasts was be Scott hurt p Scott put

1921
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 7: on IR. I think after the Atlanta game, my rookie

1922
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 7: heear which was like week or week two or three,

1923
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 7: and so then I slid from outside linebacker to inside

1924
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 7: linebacker at Mike Beast's spot. And all Beasts ever did

1925
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 7: was help me. Sat next to me in meetings, talk

1926
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 7: to me, watch tape with me. Hey, this is how

1927
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 7: I this is how I played cover two, and this

1928
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 7: is why this is what my eyes looked like. There

1929
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 7: was never there was never any sense of like you're

1930
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 7: playing Mike your first round pick, like I'm hurt. I've

1931
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 7: been hurt two years in a row. Maybe there was

1932
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 7: never like I'm worried about my job. It was how

1933
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 7: can I help you? So I think you know, I

1934
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 7: was always very fortunate to have guys like that through

1935
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,440
Speaker 7: my football career high school, college and then Beasts and

1936
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 7: Thomas and James and a guy named Jordan Sen who

1937
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 7: was played with us for a long time. He was

1938
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 7: like a could play all three spots, big time teamer,

1939
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 7: but was very and smart, very intelligent, great with his body.

1940
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 7: He sat right next to me in the locker room

1941
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 7: and he would just all he ever did was just

1942
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 7: helped me. So I just great coach with Ron and

1943
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 7: mcdee was a decordinator and then those guys around me,

1944
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 7: it was like a perfect situation.

1945
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: Dude, TD had a hell of a career and able

1946
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: to come back and play the way.

1947
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: And I met him out at one of the NFL

1948
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: one of the NFL p A meetings, and this dude

1949
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: just see like.

1950
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 2: Burger and fries and that's rever. He sits that, he

1951
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: sits there. I'm like, hey, are you eating like this

1952
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: throughout the season. He's like, Oh, I eat whatever I

1953
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: want all the time. Buddy, How in the fuck do

1954
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: you do that?

1955
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 7: I think some of those guys like that's just they're

1956
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 7: more that's just what they're their best at. Like this

1957
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 7: is what he plays, this is what he's how his

1958
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 7: body reacts the best, and that's what he's gonna do.

1959
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 7: But his like six inch snap was he was so fast,

1960
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 7: so explosive snap, ultra physical and just a great guy

1961
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 7: to watch as far as how to do things.

1962
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: Just a dangerous linebacker, just.

1963
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 7: Tough, high f ultra competitive, you know, like all those

1964
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 7: things that require no athletic ability. It's all like decisions,

1965
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 7: like you know, you are what you are athletically you are,

1966
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 7: how high weight, speed, whatever you make a decision, how

1967
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 7: tough you are, how physically you are, how hard you play,

1968
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 7: and how much it matters to you, Like those are

1969
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 7: things that you control, and he was it was great

1970
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 7: to see that from an older guy as a young guy, like,

1971
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 7: these are non negotiables that you make the decision when

1972
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 7: you walk on the field, you're gonna do it a

1973
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 7: certain way.

1974
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a great leadership. Yeah, walking and

1975
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: helping you out on that. Yeah, that's unreal. When you

1976
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: you obviously there's such a conversation revolved around you about

1977
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: like calling out plays and the game. Did you already

1978
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: have that capability to break down film or did those

1979
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: guys were they a big part of teaching you that stuff.

1980
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 7: So I was fortunate in high school. Our high school

1981
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 7: coach would bring us down to his office during lunch

1982
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 7: and he'd put on a VHS tape and we'd eat

1983
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 7: lunch down there and he'd put the tape on. The

1984
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 7: tape would just run and we could like rewind it

1985
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,879
Speaker 7: if we wanted to. But then you don't really understand

1986
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 7: why you're doing that until you know you're in the

1987
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 7: game and you're like, oh, I saw that and when

1988
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 7: we were watching tape with coach, and usually it's after

1989
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 7: the fact, so it's like very like retrospective, but you

1990
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 7: start to figure out, like oh, I can get a

1991
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 7: real advantage by watching tape. So we kind of did

1992
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 7: that in high school. And then I got to college

1993
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 7: and there's a guy, another guy, Wes Davis. He was

1994
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 7: a safety California guy, super smart, intelligent, big tape guy.

1995
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 7: So when you get to college, you know, it's like

1996
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 7: you can you can watch whatever you want. You can

1997
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 7: sort it however you want to watch it, personnel formation

1998
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 7: down a distance, you know how it is, whatever you want.

1999
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 7: So I go in there and I'm like, this is

2000
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 7: too much for me to hand. I got to figure

2001
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 7: out how to do this. So I would go watch

2002
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 7: tape with Wes. This is as a freshman, and you know,

2003
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 7: Wes would be in there and he'd be like, all right,

2004
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 7: he imagine we're playing Cover four and you get this

2005
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 7: like how you play in it. So you start to

2006
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 7: figure out, all right, I can match my call up

2007
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 7: with the play so when I watch, when I watch tape,

2008
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 7: I can envision myself in that situation. So that was

2009
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 7: kind of like the first step. And then the second

2010
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 7: step would be Wes would be in meetings and say,

2011
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 7: all right, he's like this this gives us problems and

2012
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 7: Cover three and in my head I'm like, I don't

2013
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 7: really know what that means, but like sure, so he'd

2014
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 7: be like, this is why it gives us problems. He's like,

2015
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 7: if I see this look in a game, I'm gonna

2016
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 7: let you know and then we'll just kind of play

2017
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 7: it like this, you know, you kind of play the

2018
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 7: play a little bit, and he's like, all right, I'm

2019
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 7: gonna give you heads up in the game when we're

2020
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 7: gonna get it. He's like, I'm gonna tell you when

2021
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 7: I play it a certain way, and we'll being good Jhape.

2022
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, great. So then comes up

2023
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 7: in a game, Wes gives me like a nod and

2024
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 7: I'm like, hey, I like give him nod back, Hey,

2025
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 7: what's up? And the play would happened and I would

2026
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 7: just be aloof and he'd be like, I gave you

2027
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 7: a nod. I was like, I gave you one back.

2028
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:52,799
Speaker 7: He's like no, that was what was So then just slowly,

2029
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 7: over time, you're like, Okay, now I understand why he's

2030
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 7: watching tape. So you watch tape, you understand situations, and

2031
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 7: you pick stuff up and you accumulate knowledge, and over

2032
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 7: time you just understand like this is how teams really

2033
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 7: want to run the football. This is how it matches

2034
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 7: up against our defense. These are the top formations. I mean,

2035
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 7: you know how it is. It's like if it's two

2036
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 7: by two and the tight ends on the line of scrimmers,

2037
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 7: their top roun concepts are probably this, this, and this right.

2038
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 7: And once you know that, then it's like, all right,

2039
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 7: So if we're in an overfront and they run that

2040
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 7: first run play and we're in this defense, who's gonna

2041
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 7: block me? Okay, this guy's gonna block me? All right?

2042
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 7: Say they run the other play and this same defense,

2043
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 7: same front. Boom, this, Now this guy's gonna block me.

2044
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 7: And you go through that, and then when practice rolls around,

2045
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 7: you get it. And then when the game rolls around,

2046
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 7: it's like, all right, here's my formation, here's my my

2047
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 7: call on defense. This is how we're lined up. The

2048
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 7: ball gets snapped, I get my one read from whoever

2049
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 7: I'm reading. Boom, Now I know who's gonna block me.

2050
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 7: I know where the ball is gonna go. I have

2051
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 7: to beat that guy in the run game whoever's gonna

2052
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 7: block me, and then I'm clean to the football. You know,

2053
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 7: one guy's blocking you on each play. So if I

2054
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 7: know top run concepts. I know how it fits within

2055
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 7: our defense. I know where I line, I know where

2056
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 7: my stressers are. The ball gets snapped, I read boom.

2057
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 7: Now I know who's gonna block me. Now I haven't.

2058
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 7: Now I already have a plan of attack on how

2059
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get after him before the ball gets snapped.

2060
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 7: So then you're playing the game before the ball gets snapped,

2061
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 7: and then everything just slows down as the ball gets snapped.

2062
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 7: So I love it was just because you got to like,

2063
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 7: you know what is you gotta This is a bad

2064
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 7: play right here. So I remember exactly this play. So

2065
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 7: Andy Gallax, the center, you guys ran. It was like

2066
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 7: a split zone. Look split zone. Hang on, we're in

2067
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 7: man coverage and we're in it's an in and.

2068
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 2: Out, so safety down here.

2069
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, So TD and I are like the in and

2070
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 7: out guys. So my guy goes back across the formation

2071
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 7: at the tight end. I got to fall back in

2072
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 7: a pass in pass game, but if it's a run,

2073
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 7: I gotta stay front side. So it was a run.

2074
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,600
Speaker 7: I see the guy go back across the formation. I

2075
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 7: fall back, and this ball stays front side, and look

2076
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 7: where it hits. I get blocked by I think Andy Gallax.

2077
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 7: The center is a BC guy looks where it gets hit,

2078
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 7: probably right where it should be. Kind of a disaster.

2079
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 2: Who's yeah, yeah.

2080
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, so disaster. This is a touchdown. I mean Dexter

2081
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 7: mccluster on this touchdown here.

2082
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 2: So was it twenty fifteen? Yeah, we were bad then too.

2083
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 2: How would you three and thirteen year for us?

2084
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 1: How did your prep develop? Like in the league? Like

2085
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: are you are how are you breaking down each day

2086
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: like on Monday? Or you first second down?

2087
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2088
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Run?

2089
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 7: So like Monday was so you know, Monday, you come in,

2090
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 7: you get a workout, flush, watch the watch the game

2091
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 7: from the night before and kind of our day before whatever,

2092
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 7: make your corrections. And then I'd always watched two first

2093
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 7: halves of the team that we were playing and just

2094
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 7: get like general feel. And I always feel like first

2095
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 7: halves were better because you got to you got to

2096
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 7: feel for who they were. So I think about or

2097
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 7: like think about like, say we're watching We're watching the Titans,

2098
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 7: and I watched the whole game. Maybe in the second half,

2099
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 7: you guys are up big, and so now you guys

2100
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 7: are running the ball a little bit more. Maybe the

2101
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 7: past game is not as aggressive. They're different than what

2102
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 7: they want to be coming out VERSU in the first half,

2103
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 7: like your first fifteen, your first probably twenty five plays

2104
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 7: or things that you guys have really thought about, your

2105
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 7: top concept stuff like that. So I'd watch two first

2106
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 7: halfs and just get a feel for like, you know,

2107
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 7: what do they look like up front? You know, are

2108
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 7: they like For example, we play the Falcons, right, Alex

2109
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 7: Mack like big, athletic, smart range, really good player, Like damn,

2110
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 7: I got my work cut out for this guy. And

2111
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 7: then you go, you know, in the backfield, it was

2112
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 7: Tevin Coleman. He's like big, kind of a slasher, like

2113
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 7: one cut wide zone type guy. Devonte Freeman is like

2114
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 7: a little bit of shake good burst, could run physical,

2115
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 7: not a real big guy, but gets lost and like

2116
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 7: is a firm really good. I thought he was really

2117
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 7: good and if he could speed you up, slowly down,

2118
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 7: run through you. And then you look on the outside

2119
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 7: of Austin Hooper was the tight end, and then it

2120
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 7: was like Roddy White and Julio Jones. You're like, all right, boom,

2121
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 7: So like this is how they look up front, this

2122
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 7: is what they like in the backfield, Like you know,

2123
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 7: we play the Falcons. You don't really need to watch

2124
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 7: Matt a whole lot because you got a really good

2125
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 7: feel for we played them twice a year's he's Matt Ryan.

2126
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 7: You know, you know you to take a ton of

2127
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 7: notes on that, but you get a feel for all right,

2128
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan, wide zone shifts and motions. They're going to

2129
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 7: try to get you in a compromise position and want

2130
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 7: to run the ball to the bubble. So that's Monday,

2131
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 7: and just it's like click through, like click through stuff

2132
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 7: real quick Tuesday.

2133
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Are you a big notes guy or are you just notes?

2134
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 7: Because that helps me if I write it, then it

2135
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 7: helps me remember.

2136
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 2: And this Monday, you're not necessarily you know, you're just

2137
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: feeling the game. Yeah, feeling the process.

2138
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 6: Of the game.

2139
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and feel them and like I'll write down some

2140
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 7: notes like if they've got a dude that I'm not

2141
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 7: used to playing against, or I haven't seen a lot

2142
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 7: of them, Like this is like offensive line moves really well.

2143
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 7: Center fifty one is a really good player running backs.

2144
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 7: This is how these guys feel because I always felt

2145
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 7: like with running backs, if you don't play against them

2146
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 7: a lot, you don't know how they like feel on

2147
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 7: contact and I didn't like that, Like I want to

2148
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 7: know early in the game, how do you feel you

2149
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 7: firm like stuff like that, And I felt like that

2150
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 7: was one thing that I always wanted to watch during

2151
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 7: the week is how do they run? How do they

2152
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 7: take contact? Do they like contact?

2153
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 6: Like?

2154
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 7: Are they a stiff arm guy? They what do they

2155
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 7: like doing? Because then in the game you gotta have

2156
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 7: a plan. I mean, you'll play Marshawn Lynch. You can't

2157
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 7: just like run in there and I hope you're gonna

2158
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 7: get them on the ground. So then I would take

2159
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 7: light notes on that and just get a feel because mentally,

2160
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 7: I was like, Monday was a day where I'm like

2161
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 7: I need to kind of break it up a little bit.

2162
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 7: So if I took a ton of notes, I'm like

2163
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 7: this is just too much mentally. So then Tuesday you

2164
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 7: come in, hit a little workout, and then I'd watch

2165
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 7: run games. So our coaches did a good job of

2166
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 7: breaking down run game based on like formation, down in distance,

2167
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 7: excuse me, top concepts, and then I would go and

2168
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 7: highlight like four games and then you know, you can

2169
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 7: sort everything, so i'd sort it by like personnel. It's

2170
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 7: like all right, I want to I want to see

2171
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 7: all their twelve personnel runs, and then like, how do

2172
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 7: they run the ball to twelve personnel? So three by

2173
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 7: one is it two by two? Do they like running

2174
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 7: twelve personnel and putting the tight the tight end in

2175
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 7: the backfield because if so, now it turns into like

2176
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 7: two back run versus like if they're in a wing

2177
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 7: or double like ace both on the line of scrimmage.

2178
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 7: Now it's like one back runs twelve. Yeah, so it's

2179
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 7: like a completely different concept. So I want to know

2180
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 7: what they do. And then I would break it down

2181
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 7: by like personnel, group, then formation, and then top concepts

2182
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 7: inside the formation. I'd take notes on all those and

2183
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 7: just chart it, cause like it took a lot of time,

2184
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 7: but I felt like if I could write it down

2185
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 7: then I would remember it better. So then and by Tuesday,

2186
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 7: I usually had I usually had the game plan like

2187
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 7: first second Hald game plan. So then I'd watch all

2188
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 7: that chart everything, watch those games, and then i'd watch

2189
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 7: a full game after that and then see how it fits.

2190
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 7: So like when do they run it? Like when are

2191
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 7: they eleven? When are they twelve? What are they like

2192
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 7: doing out of thirteen? When do they do it in

2193
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 7: a game, and like what's the game flow? And then

2194
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 7: you could call I could call defenses within that, within

2195
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 7: that watching that game, so you know first and ten

2196
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 7: the first quarter, Like all right, I was gonna play

2197
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 7: cover three, So line up and cover three, see my overfront,

2198
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 7: See where I gotta line, see where rotation is, and

2199
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,839
Speaker 7: then kind of go through it that way, and then

2200
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 7: you know, just kind of buzz through it like that.

2201
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 7: So then you get a feel for how they want

2202
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 7: to run the ball out of formations. You get a

2203
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 7: good feel for what they are, and then you see

2204
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 7: how it applies to the game and how they get

2205
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 7: to stuff. And then I can apply our first and

2206
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 7: second down game plan to that and just run through that.

2207
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 7: And then Wednesday after practice, I do the same thing

2208
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 7: but with first and second down pass. So break it

2209
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 7: down the same way and see how the run game

2210
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 7: matches with pass.

2211
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 2: Game, what conflicts you could potentially what.

2212
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 7: Conflicts, And then like you start to figure out like

2213
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 7: are they a formation based team in the sense of

2214
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 7: do they run plays, run plays and pass plays out

2215
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 7: of formations? So regardless of what the personnel is, like

2216
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 7: if it's three by one wing, they could run that

2217
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 7: at eleven, they could run it at twelve, they could

2218
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 7: run out of thirteen. They could run it at ten

2219
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 7: if they wanted. But it's the same run concept and

2220
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 7: they're just looking for the best matchup within personnel groupings

2221
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,799
Speaker 7: that run that run play. Or are they a personnel

2222
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 7: group team where in eleven these are their top five

2223
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 7: run concepts, and then in twelve they want to run this,

2224
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 7: and then thirteen they start getting heavy. It's like short yarders.

2225
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,879
Speaker 7: They're gonna play too heavy a wing and a backside

2226
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 7: tight end and it's going to be like load power

2227
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 7: counter O. Why three poolers going somewhere? Or are they just,

2228
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 7: like I said, a formation based team. So then as

2229
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 7: the week goes on, you get a feel for what

2230
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 7: this team wants to do, why they want to do it,

2231
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 7: how they get to it. Are they a shift motion team?

2232
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 7: Do they build sets? Because the only thing that matters

2233
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 7: in football is what's the final formation? So are they

2234
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 7: stagnant or they line up in three by one and

2235
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 7: then shift to two by two and then motion this

2236
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 7: guy across to three by one. I don't care about

2237
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 7: any of that. I just want to know results. What's

2238
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 7: the final result of the formation. Is what I want

2239
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 7: to get to and how they do it. So when

2240
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 7: the game comes around, you're not like, oh, well it's

2241
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 7: three by one. But I didn't anticipate them get into it.

2242
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 7: Like no, I already knew that there gonna be a

2243
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 7: heavy shift, heavy motion. My brain's already turned onto it.

2244
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 7: So when they get to when they start to move, guys,

2245
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 7: it's like I've already prepared myself for this. Yeah, and

2246
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 7: then third down you just watch it by you know,

2247
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 7: down the distance, and then watch watch another game. And

2248
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 7: so he kind of would all ties together and then

2249
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 7: Friday was red Zone and special. So like if we

2250
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 7: were playing you know cal or Alvin Kamara, like you

2251
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 7: can get a lot of matchups one on one of them.

2252
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 7: If we play man coverage like I don't, I don't

2253
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 7: like that matchup.

2254
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: You'll be able to get the rat in this situation or.

2255
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 7: Like and if I get put in a bad situation,

2256
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 7: I need to have a plan of attack of like

2257
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 7: does he like moving off their certain foot, how does

2258
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 7: he stem? Where does he get uncomfortable? Where does his

2259
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,759
Speaker 7: move area out of the backfield? Where does he like going?

2260
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 7: And then so when you get in that situation, if

2261
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 7: it's man, You're like, all right, Like he's a better

2262
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 7: athlete than me. He's gonna probably make me miss a bunch.

2263
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 7: But like, here's my plan of attack that I've thought

2264
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 7: about on Friday. So when it comes around in the game,

2265
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 7: you're like, all right, I'm good, Like, yeah, this is

2266
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 7: my plan of attack, and like I feel good about it,

2267
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 7: and I'm going to go attack him and if it works, great,

2268
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 7: If not, like I feel good about what I did

2269
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 7: going into the game.

2270
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, how big of a role did the TV copy? Love?

2271
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 7: TV copy?

2272
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? The TV copy is that where you found their

2273
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 2: checks and oh yes and stuff like that.

2274
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 7: So you just I would just watch like the All

2275
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 7: twenty two and then anytime the quarterback comes to the

2276
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, you turn on the TV copy and

2277
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 7: see what you got. Everything that he says. You got

2278
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 7: to listen to it and write it down, and then

2279
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 7: you got to check it a few times. You know.

2280
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember any teams that were changing their verbiage

2281
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 1: because they essentially knew that they were playing against you?

2282
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 7: No, if I didn't, if I didn't, if I didn't

2283
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 7: know a word, I never guessed. But like you always

2284
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 7: have to. It's always just like it's a NTD. It

2285
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,799
Speaker 7: was probably like salt pepper. Yeah, I tell you, yeah,

2286
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 7: Salt and pepper. So that was was using the Super Bowl,

2287
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 7: and I thought Salt was left and pepper was right

2288
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 7: because salt is and pepper was right.

2289
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 2: Because they had and white black. They had the background

2290
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 2: there in a black line background when they had salt, Salt, Salt, Hey,

2291
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: you're white.

2292
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 7: Hey, they got me fucking my head.

2293
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 2: It looks like hey.

2294
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 11: Lived something on the same page with you because inside

2295
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 11: inside that game, So inside the game, they said like

2296
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 11: Tiger and Paradis.

2297
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 7: Matt Paradis was the center and he and he said

2298
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 7: Tiger Tiger, and one of the offensive linemen was like

2299
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 7: huh and he said Tiger er. I was like, ah,

2300
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 7: you're going to the right. So I took that forward

2301
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 7: to salt and Pepper, and I remember having an argument

2302
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 7: with TD about it, and we get in the sideline

2303
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I don't know why they called pepper

2304
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 7: and they and they went to you. I was on

2305
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 7: the right side or whatever, the left side. They're right,

2306
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 7: and he's like, no, you missed the whole thing. Salt,

2307
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 7: you're white, Pepper. I was like, ah, it makes sense

2308
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 7: now even the crafty Oh my gosh, it's so funny man.

2309
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, there's definitely like a crazy amount

2310
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 2: of you calling out those plays, Like what do you

2311
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 2: think your batting percentage was on those?

2312
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 7: I think if you feel good about it, Like I

2313
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 7: remember we played Tampa in twenty fifteen and they had

2314
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 7: a toss play. It was Tulsa, and I remember we

2315
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 7: were it was a check they talked about.

2316
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: We were.

2317
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 7: It was like on a third down maybe, and we

2318
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 7: were all mugged up. So Thomas and I were both

2319
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 7: mugged up. We had a safety mugged up, so we

2320
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 7: were you know, if they had and they had a

2321
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 7: they had a front side bunch and so if they

2322
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 7: if you just downbock pin and pool off, the ball

2323
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 7: defenders that are supposed to make the play are never

2324
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 7: going to get there. It's like throwing a screen out

2325
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 7: of a mug, look like a wide receiver screen. And

2326
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 7: I remember he gets there and James comes up and

2327
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 7: looks around and he's like, all, we got double mug.

2328
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 7: All these guys in the line of scrimmage safeties down

2329
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 7: showing off the backside, the rotational guy and the nickel

2330
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 7: showing up because it's a bunch because he's got to

2331
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 7: press the point and he checks Tulsa and I'm like,

2332
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 7: oh my gosh, perfect yeah, and said we pull we

2333
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 7: pull everybody out and bump everyone plus everyone front side.

2334
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 7: Just totally get out of the blitz. We're supposed to

2335
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 7: be dropping defensive tackles. It was like a sim pressure

2336
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 7: and we just told all the defense I'm like, go,

2337
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 7: don't drop. It's a run, it's a toss. Go And

2338
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 7: one of the guys, I think Jared Allen made the

2339
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 7: tackle and I just I was so happy. It's like

2340
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 7: it all works.

2341
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 6: You know.

2342
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 7: You get that one play, get that one play you

2343
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 7: make based on film, and you just like, yeah, it's

2344
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 7: all worth it.

2345
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, all the preparation was worth it for sure.

2346
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 7: And TD was great at that. TD watched a ton

2347
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 7: of tape too, so we had to get a little

2348
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 7: combo when.

2349
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 2: You get to those games, the amount of preparation you

2350
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: put in, knowing like the album Kamara, when you're like this,

2351
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna attack him. So I know regardless, like my

2352
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 2: process has been correct.

2353
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2354
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: Did you have nerves before the games or was it

2355
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: like the barn Oh?

2356
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 7: I was always nervous. Yeah, like you want to You

2357
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 7: always want to get in the flow as fast as

2358
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 7: you can of the game. And the longer you're out

2359
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 7: of the flow of the game, the less you feel

2360
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 7: like you're a part of the game. So you can

2361
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 7: prepare all you want, but you you want to get

2362
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 7: into the flow of the game as quickly as you can.

2363
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 7: And if you're not in the flow, you feel like

2364
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 7: you're floating, and I hate that. So you're always nervous

2365
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 7: to go in the game because you don't know. Each

2366
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 7: game feels different, like it feels different from you know,

2367
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 7: the surface is different, how the team you play is different,

2368
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 7: the coordinators are different, how they want to attack you

2369
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 7: is different, the players are different, the run game is different.

2370
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 7: Like everything feels different each game, and you were always

2371
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 7: like I don't know about nervous or you're anxious to

2372
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 7: like feel feel the game and be and feel like

2373
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 7: you're a part of the game. And until you do that,

2374
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 7: you're kind of like, damn, like I need to need

2375
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 7: to get in there.

2376
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 2: You need to get in there, need to feel someone.

2377
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 7: Neither like a little action early in the game.

2378
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 2: With with that thought process, was it better for you

2379
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: in your mind? To go three and out your first

2380
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: defensive drive like oh boys, we got three and out,

2381
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: or like a nine eight nine play gritty drive where

2382
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 2: maybe they come out points, but like you know the kid,

2383
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 2: this next drive, I'm gonna I feel like I'm immersed

2384
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: in this game now, So I feel a whole lot better.

2385
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 7: I think it depends on if you get if you

2386
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 7: get a piece of something early.

2387
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you got to get a piece of something,

2388
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 2: Like if.

2389
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 7: You make a good tackle, like on first or second

2390
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 7: or third down, or like first or second down, you

2391
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 7: make a you make a good play like around the

2392
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage in the run game, you're like, all right,

2393
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 7: I got like kind.

2394
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Of first out the way.

2395
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 7: I'm good, or like you get to like you make

2396
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 7: a good play on third down you get a stop

2397
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 7: or off the field in like a three and out,

2398
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 7: or you know, you just you're in the mix, or

2399
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 7: like you feel to say they're on power and you

2400
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 7: like you like stick a guard and you force a guard,

2401
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 7: You're like, all right, I'm in good shape. But if

2402
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 7: it's like pass toss run away incomplete on third down,

2403
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 7: you're still like like itch in a little bit. Yeah,

2404
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 7: you need to get like you need to get You

2405
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 7: need to get a piece of something.

2406
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: Yea to feel somebody. Yeah, talk about the pain from

2407
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 2: from the Super Bowl? Yeah, and have you forgiven Cam

2408
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 2: Newton for not jumping on that phone? Oh my gosh.

2409
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 7: It was. The further you get away from it, the

2410
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 7: more you appreciate it. Like how special that year was,

2411
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 7: how much fun we had, how good our locker room was,

2412
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 7: Like all the games that we played in that were

2413
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 7: so fun that the city of Charlotte was awesome. Like

2414
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 7: the media coverage of that season. In the locker room,

2415
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 7: it was like anybody that was anybody reporter wise, was

2416
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 7: in the locker room every week. We didn't lose a

2417
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 7: game until Christmas. We played on Thursday, we played, Yeah,

2418
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 7: here you go. Played on Thursday night in Jerry World

2419
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 7: down in Dallas on Thanksgiving.

2420
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh buddy, I'm sorry interrupted. Yeah, that was my favorite

2421
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 1: game to watch of you.

2422
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm like, you're like a proud father and

2423
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,919
Speaker 7: I'm your son. It's like you got like super comfortable

2424
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:01,879
Speaker 7: because we'll talk to the Cowboys.

2425
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 2: He usually has a dim light on it, so it's

2426
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 2: nice to see him light up with the Cowboys.

2427
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: Just as a backer and appreciating and respecting the game

2428
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: that we played, like watching getting to watch that Thursday

2429
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: night football game, because again, you're not like watching everybody

2430
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: else like when you're playing on Sundays, but knowing that

2431
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: you had there was dedicated time like on holidays, to

2432
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, these teams are playing today and

2433
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: watching you against the Cowboys those two those two picks

2434
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 1: you had back to back. I've sat there and I

2435
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: was trying to get everybody in the room enthralled, like,

2436
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 1: do you guys understand what just happened? You being a

2437
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 1: Tampa two player and them trying to run you out,

2438
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: clear you out for that deep dagger by one and

2439
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: you coming down to pick it off after you already

2440
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: have your responsibility taken care of.

2441
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 2: That is art. Oh you're coming back, coming back.

2442
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: The next series and knowing you're in a cover four

2443
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 1: responsibility with wit as the tight end and they're trying

2444
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: you over the top without any safety help and you

2445
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:56,799
Speaker 1: picking that ball off, getting your head around.

2446
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 2: That's art. And I just want you to know that.

2447
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 7: Hang around me and talk me up a little more.

2448
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: Obviously, you have all the all the accomplishments in the world,

2449
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 1: but just like some of those plays and you just

2450
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: talking through Tulsa knowing you're mugged up and everything else.

2451
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,879
Speaker 1: I appreciate the art that you put on display.

2452
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 7: Was it was, I appreciate that this.

2453
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 1: Hey yeah, sorry, I'm getting rid this right now. But

2454
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: these plays right here, boys like you guys need to

2455
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 1: lock in.

2456
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 7: The guy that made the play was Thomas. So we

2457
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 7: were in a sim pressure So basically what was supposed

2458
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 7: to happen is TD was supposed to blitz and we

2459
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 7: were supposed to drop the defensive end to the field.

2460
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 7: So Romo saw the pressure, so he's like, all right,

2461
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 7: the hook player. It was just sim pressure Cover three.

2462
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 7: The hook player is a defensive end, so I'm gonna

2463
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 7: throw this dig right behind the defensive end. So Romo,

2464
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 7: Romo checks protection, swings everything, and so Thomas is like,

2465
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 7: do we need to get out of this? They're just

2466
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 7: push protection. To me, it's a bad matchup. So he checked.

2467
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 7: Thomas looks at him as like, hey, we need to

2468
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 7: check cover two. I was like, all right, cool, let's

2469
01:46:58,160 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 7: do it.

2470
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 2: So who's the green dot?

2471
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,560
Speaker 7: I did, But Thomas and I and like Roman and

2472
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 7: Kirk Coleman, it was like, it's just a discussion.

2473
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 2: It's a discussion. Crazy that you guys have enough time

2474
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 2: to have a discussion as well. That's wild.

2475
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 7: TD and I had like a hey, he's like he

2476
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 7: just miked it. You want to go to cover too?

2477
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 7: And I was like you want to He's like yeah.

2478
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 7: I was like a right, cool, check cover too, So

2479
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 7: like you've got time. And then this play is like

2480
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 7: one of those plays that you talked about. You always

2481
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 7: want to get this play in cover two and it

2482
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 7: never works out that way, like either you're a backside

2483
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 7: hook player or you're blitzing, or it's man coverage, and

2484
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 7: it's just one of those plays where it's just right place,

2485
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 7: right time, like it happened and you're taking a shot.

2486
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're like you're you're you're trust look at

2487
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 7: look at Whitney's Yeah.

2488
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,799
Speaker 1: He's wide open. But again you're trusting your you're trusting.

2489
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 1: Can you go back to the top of the play.

2490
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: And a lot of it starts too with it's like.

2491
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: You starting high and trusting that all right, Romo's went

2492
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: through this progression and where now I'm going to take

2493
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: a shot and leave the middle of the field to

2494
01:47:59,040 --> 01:47:59,919
Speaker 1: go pick off.

2495
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 7: And then stagger the other thing is so Bene ben

2496
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 7: Wickery is playing, he's on our corners, he's playing at

2497
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 7: the I think the same at the bottom of the screen.

2498
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 7: If you don't get a good jam on that guy,

2499
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 7: then I can't see the release. So the release by

2500
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 7: one if he inside releases and you get a clear

2501
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 7: out and then a sit Look at the jam. Do

2502
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 7: you see the jam by Bene. So the jam slows

2503
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 7: it down? Yeah, he gets the good jam, pushes him

2504
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 7: inside and puts those two guys on levels and slows

2505
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 7: him down. So the procression for Romo is slower, so

2506
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 7: he doesn't get to dot that ball when he wants to.

2507
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 7: But I get to see inside release by one. I

2508
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,600
Speaker 7: can see the sit by two. And then once he

2509
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 7: puts his foot in the ground, I'm all right, I'm clean,

2510
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 7: Like I'm good because I know that once his inside release,

2511
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 7: his company's probably gonna run an cut and that's going

2512
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 7: to push Roman to.

2513
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 2: That over right, So then you're like all right.

2514
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 7: But then you, like you said, you're kinda you're kind

2515
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 7: of taking like a calculated chance.

2516
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is as the mic backer you have the

2517
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: middle of the field.

2518
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tampa two, you got a bailout and you're deep yeah.

2519
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: In his backs to the quarterback. So again he's taking

2520
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: like a calculated wrist just coming out of the middle

2521
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: of the field. And so funny the whole player, you

2522
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 1: know's it's like you're jumping the fat lady when the

2523
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: pretty ones behind him.

2524
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 2: Why at that point are you like, Okay, I'm safe

2525
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 2: because you know your safety is now coming back over

2526
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 2: the top to help you out.

2527
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 7: And you kind of know you kind of know where

2528
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 7: that ball is meant to be thrown. The ball is

2529
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 7: meant to be thrown to the dig got you.

2530
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: So like his romo in his mind is still thinking,

2531
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 2: you guys are in a simulator PRESSU where the end's

2532
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 2: going to drop, and that guy's covering him.

2533
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 7: I think he probably knows at this point that we're not.

2534
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 7: I just think he probably is like, all I got,

2535
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 7: I got Tampa, the the hook player jumped the little

2536
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 7: in and out route, the whip route, So I'm just

2537
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 7: gonna throw it behind right, So I had a little

2538
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 7: bit more time to kind of field out because Bene

2539
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 7: got such a good jam he slowed the progress. That

2540
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 7: guy really got him inside. So like it's it's one

2541
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 7: of those things like you don't just make the play

2542
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 7: by yourself. Really good jam, We had really good pressure

2543
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 7: that whole that whole game. We hit him a bunch,

2544
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 7: so like that clock gets sped up, and then Thomas

2545
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 7: great awareness him of like getting out of that.

2546
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have incredible quarterback answers of shouting.

2547
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 2: Out the team for the entire course.

2548
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean because right, it's like when what Romo scene,

2549
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: It is like he knows as the hook player sitting there,

2550
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, this is a one hundred out of one hundred,

2551
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit this clear, hit this dig over because

2552
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: you can.

2553
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 2: See right here, even with you covering the stableway like

2554
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 2: that almost seems a little open to me. But he's

2555
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: right here. Yeah, and that where him he's like, oh,

2556
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 2: there's no one because he's expecting you to still go.

2557
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 7: Up because because avoid in the middle of the field

2558
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 7: and Nickel is moving out towards that whip, so that

2559
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 7: ball is supposed to get thrown between the numbers in

2560
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 7: the hash right that dig it's the dig window. So

2561
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 7: he's like, I'm in good shape, you know.

2562
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm sure we're not able to show the

2563
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: screen like during the YouTube, So anybody that's curious as

2564
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Tony Romo throws an interception to Luke Keekley looked at

2565
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 1: play up.

2566
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be able to show still, Yeah, because that

2567
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 2: is that is art, Like that's the beauty, that's the

2568
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 2: game within the game. That kind of like people will

2569
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 2: see and like, wow, Luke is amazing. But for you

2570
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 2: to like give us what TD was saying, the the

2571
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 2: jam all that like that is that's good football. Eleven

2572
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 2: guys getting Yeah, you know we had time. He bumped

2573
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 2: him and put him inside and gave me more time.

2574
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 2: It's like this is happening in four seconds, yes, which

2575
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 2: is just so crazy because you're not supposed to be

2576
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 2: anywhere near that ball when it's thrown.

2577
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just it's just all it's quil It just

2578
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 7: all fits it like all fits together.

2579
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, was there And I hate to bring this

2580
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 2: up again. Any chatter about Cam Newton not jumping on

2581
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: that fumble. Honestly, no no one ever said, No one

2582
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 2: ever whispered, no, his.

2583
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 7: His toughness. We never questioned it. The guy never never complained.

2584
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 7: It's the first guy in every day. He worked so hard,

2585
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 7: never never yelled at guys, never threw guys under the bus.

2586
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 7: Like you talk about a dude that just all he

2587
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 7: wants to do is play football, and it's just that

2588
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 7: was just a bad game for us. We just didn't play.

2589
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 7: We didn't play our best game.

2590
01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: The Seeing Cam Newton on the field, there's a there's

2591
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 1: like a few guys Calvin Johnson comes to mind, but

2592
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: seeing Cam Newton dressing on the field, he looks creative player. Yeah,

2593
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 1: he's like an action figure out.

2594
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 2: He's like all of six five. Everybody, well, he's taller

2595
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 2: than six five. We saw him at Power Slap and

2596
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 2: he was eye to eye with me. I feel like

2597
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 2: he was taller. Must get that he's got that.

2598
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 7: He's like, he's like he's like seven ft tall with

2599
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 7: all that.

2600
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt he's not getting any rides. But that's

2601
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 2: interesting you say that because the way he's portrayed in

2602
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 2: the media is that like he's a cat that seems

2603
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 2: like a very much an eye guy. Well that like

2604
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: when he's when he's on ESPN, he said I would

2605
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 2: rather have my MVP trophy than a Super Bowl trophy.

2606
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm not getting that same vibe as I'm getting from you.

2607
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 2: Were like, he's would you give up your defensive player

2608
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: of the years for that super Bowl.

2609
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, the super Bowl is like the Mecca.

2610
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you.

2611
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 7: Know, that's all you want, just want to win a

2612
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 7: super Bowl.

2613
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: But he looked at you like you were dumb right there?

2614
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 7: Tell you what toughness, competitiveness, love of the game of

2615
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 7: football of the Carolina Panthers, like Cam just tough. You

2616
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 7: never questioned is he going to play hard? Like you

2617
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 7: never question that. You might question like what is he

2618
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 7: gonna wear? But the dude competed, He played so hard,

2619
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 7: loves football.

2620
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: Just tough and competitive, and it just it also clearly

2621
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: he knew what was going on. But it's like that

2622
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 1: what is it that clip of that play where somebody's

2623
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: trying to call out something, somebody's trying to call somebody.

2624
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 2: What you're trying to do? Yeah, oh you like that?

2625
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 2: Watch this?

2626
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh that was Clay Macaulay's watched that wil you watch

2627
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 1: film toot.

2628
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 7: And he threw that ball to McCaffrey. But it's interesting.

2629
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 7: So Cam, it's like he he can he remembers like everything.

2630
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 7: So they had to signal him and Greg had a

2631
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 7: signal for like it's like a route that he ran,

2632
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 7: and Cam's like, hey, dude, like we got to switch

2633
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 7: it up. We've run this too many times, like everybody

2634
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 7: knows what it is. And Greg's like, all right, what

2635
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 7: do you want it to be? And Cam's like, ah,

2636
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 7: I don't know. We did this like four years ago

2637
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 7: and against Atlanta and it was like the third quarter,

2638
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 7: and you know it was like ten minutes ago in

2639
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 7: the game and ten minutes to going third quarter and

2640
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 7: I gave you like this signal like I don't know,

2641
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 7: that's cool, we just want to do that. Greg's like whatever, yeah,

2642
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 7: And like I like went and looked it up and

2643
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 7: I was like whoa, Like he was spot on. He

2644
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 7: was like pretty dagone close. Yeah. So, but him and

2645
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 7: Greg had a really good connection. Like Greg has such

2646
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 7: a great feel for you know, space and timing and

2647
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 7: windows and just he had he was really good at

2648
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 7: a lot of things.

2649
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 2: Great.

2650
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 7: He was big, he'd catch everything, could run, block, never

2651
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 7: came off the field. But he had such a good

2652
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 7: feel for like where to be, how to get there,

2653
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 7: how to stem guys. Like he was so good at that.

2654
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 7: And Cam and him had such a great connection that

2655
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 7: they could just kind of look at each other and

2656
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 7: they both knew what was going on. They'd line up

2657
01:54:58,280 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 7: in this set. It was a three by one set,

2658
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 7: so Greg they called it one by three. Gray was

2659
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 7: backside and you could line up and cover three or

2660
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 7: cover four. It didn't matter. It was basically man because

2661
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 7: it was just Greg in a corner or of safety

2662
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 7: by themselves and they just look at each other and

2663
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 7: figure it out. And it was really cool to watch.

2664
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 7: But a lot of it was just Cam's super smart

2665
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 7: remembers everything tough, competitive, and it was fun to watch

2666
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:22,839
Speaker 7: him and Greg play.

2667
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 2: With each other. How was it being in the mix

2668
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: of the Odell Beckham and Josh Norman.

2669
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, that was like peak Josh Norman.

2670
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2671
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that was part of Josh's game. I remember

2672
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 7: when we played Dallas, him and Des are going at

2673
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 7: it the whole game, and that was part of Josh's game.

2674
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 2: And you know.

2675
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 7: It was we were in it and they let and

2676
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, they let those guys play a

2677
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 7: little bit until there was a couple. There was like

2678
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 7: one or two instances where like they had to separate them.

2679
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 2: Odell went had to have missile shot.

2680
01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:00,120
Speaker 7: Was that that one wasn't great? But that Josh was

2681
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 7: another guy. Josh great feel great, feel smart, unbelievable ball

2682
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 7: skills in ultra competitive, ultra competitive, so that was a

2683
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 7: great matchup for them. Josh played fantastic that year. Josh

2684
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 7: was exactly what we needed in our defense, like long rangey,

2685
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 7: great ball skills, could compete competitive. He was really good

2686
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 7: and that that was an interesting game. We were up

2687
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 7: a million points and they came all the way back.

2688
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 7: Odell actually caught a ball there at the end of

2689
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 7: the game to tie it up, and then Cam went

2690
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 7: down and I'm going to kick the field would win it.

2691
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 7: But it was like we were there there, Josh and

2692
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 7: I having good chat here.

2693
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 2: Tried tell him to keith his cool.

2694
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 7: I hey, keep doing you man.

2695
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had him at Washington. He's his ability to

2696
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: punch the ball out, the Peanut punch.

2697
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 7: He learned it from Peanut, So Josh Josh was always

2698
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 7: around the ball. Then Peanut came in twenty fifteen and

2699
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 7: Josh was like his Josh, I think saw that and

2700
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 7: He's like like, I can do that, and he just

2701
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 7: had It's a timing thing, you know, It's a timing thing.

2702
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 7: It's an opportunity to think. It was just really good

2703
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 7: at it. So yeah, he was at Peanut was awesome.

2704
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 7: You talk about a teammate, Oh my gosh, great teammate,

2705
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 7: Peanut Tillman, Oh my gosh, I love that guy.

2706
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 2: You guys had some fucking dogs that.

2707
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 7: Super Bowl year, so it was cool.

2708
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean you you always Jared Allen to like him.

2709
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had Jared Allen and Peanut that in at

2710
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 7: twenty fifteen year, and then Romanse came in. I remember

2711
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 7: the first time I met Pep.

2712
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, Yeah, he is a monster.

2713
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 7: He's big, but he's very He's proportional, so like when

2714
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 7: you see him from a distance, you're like, oh, he's

2715
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 7: big because he's so proportional, and the closer you get

2716
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 7: to him, you're like, oh, yeah, it's pretty stout.

2717
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 2: I was so happy when we played, y'all, and he

2718
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 2: was I think he went back right, he played, and

2719
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 2: then he went to the Packers.

2720
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 7: They played us at fifteen, he was in, he was

2721
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 7: Green Bay. So he went Carolina, Chicago and then Green

2722
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 7: Bay and then at the end he came back.

2723
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: To us because when he that was like his last year, right.

2724
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 7: His last two years drinking.

2725
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 2: His last two years. So when we played, I mean

2726
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 2: he put his hand in the dirt. I'm looking at

2727
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 2: my form and his forum. I'm like, this is not

2728
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 2: something we're not playing the same game. Him an equal,

2729
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: but he was in that he was in that mode

2730
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 2: of I'm gonna pick and choose my shots to kind

2731
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 2: of win, to really go hard. But he was like

2732
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 2: playing the game and it was love. Just I was

2733
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 2: so happy.

2734
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 7: I'm just so talented man.

2735
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, him and guys like Sugs too, like just kind

2736
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 2: of like understood the game at a level where they

2737
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: knew when it was time to turn it on and

2738
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 2: not on. That older age was just so cool to see.

2739
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 1: So then another guy that was a freaking athlete, Shack Thompson. Shack,

2740
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 1: so we're mentioning all those vets and yeah, Shaq Thompson

2741
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 1: had the ability to he had a lot of range.

2742
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. So it was interesting. They bring Shack

2743
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 7: in and he played running back, linebacker, safety at Washington

2744
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 7: and we bring him in and Thomas was playing well,

2745
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 7: I was playing. Mike's so like, there's not a ton

2746
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 7: of room. But we're like, we need to get this

2747
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 7: guy on the field because he's so talented. He does

2748
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 7: everything well and he was super smart from the day

2749
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 7: he got there, Like you tell him at one time,

2750
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 7: he got it. And there's guys that can like memorize,

2751
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 7: and there's guys that just have great feel for the

2752
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 7: game of football and how to play in competitive and effort.

2753
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 7: Shack showed up in the day that he got there.

2754
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 7: He had all of that, and so we need to

2755
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 7: find a way to get him on the field. So

2756
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 7: we would play him at nickel and we called it

2757
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 7: Buffalo and it was just like a it was just

2758
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 7: a package we had. It was like a big nickel,

2759
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 7: so we could play all of our nickel calls but

2760
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 7: have a bigger body in there so we could like

2761
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 7: blitz him. We could play five down with him on

2762
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage, we could play zone coverage, so

2763
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 7: then there was really no matchup issues. But we were

2764
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 7: able to get him on the field and highlight what

2765
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 7: he was able to do, and it was just awesome.

2766
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 7: And he's a great and he's a great. He took

2767
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 7: so much pride and being the young because our room

2768
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 7: was good. So it was like Thomas aj Klein was

2769
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 7: a really.

2770
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 1: Good player because he was a fourth rounder that yeah,

2771
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 1: he was Iowa State kid.

2772
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Was he twenty thirteen?

2773
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 7: Thirteen year.

2774
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was my year because he sat behind you.

2775
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 1: But anytime like you would be down and he'd come in,

2776
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: he'd light it up like he got to go on

2777
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 1: and take a contract to get bigger money. Yeah with

2778
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 1: New Orleans, right, yeah, with New Orleans.

2779
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,400
Speaker 7: So Aj would play, Shaq would play, but our room

2780
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 7: was like established older guys, and he came in and

2781
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 7: it was like his mission, like I'm not going to

2782
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 7: let any of you guys down. So like that's how

2783
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 7: he prepared, that's how he practiced. So he's played special teams,

2784
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 7: never complained ever, just a good guy that like got it.

2785
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 2: So he's got a great career.

2786
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, fires Mal, you guys did have just a hell

2787
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 1: of a room. Yeah, I'm sure like Aj, you know,

2788
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 1: you just got to be itching to get on the

2789
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 1: field at times, like playing behind somebody like yourself or

2790
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: just knowing you're not going to be seeing the field

2791
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: unless an injury or something like that happens. Because Aj

2792
02:00:57,120 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 1: was a stud at Iowa State. And again anytime he

2793
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 1: came in during extint that you'd be out, like he'd

2794
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: light it up like he was a hell of a

2795
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: middle linebacker.

2796
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you what you give those guys a

2797
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 7: lot of credit too, because he was like the the

2798
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 7: first guy in wherever. So if his needed to be Will,

2799
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 7: he could play Will. If he needed to play Mike,

2800
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 7: he could play Mike. If you were playing you know,

2801
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 7: three backers in like a bass, look, he could play Sam.

2802
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 7: And you know, you don't get reps at practice, right,

2803
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 7: Like you don't get any So he had to show

2804
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 7: up in lock in and meetings and go to practice

2805
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 7: and you know, do his thing there and then go

2806
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 7: run down on teams and then oh hey, somebody, Hey,

2807
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 7: Luke's out, Like go play Mike backer, all right. Well,

2808
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 7: and that next week TD's out, Lukes backing, all right?

2809
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:38,920
Speaker 7: Now you get to go play Will backer. And it's

2810
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 7: like it never he never lost a step or like

2811
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 7: had a mental blip. He's just it's impressive like those

2812
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,400
Speaker 7: guys that are able to do that at a high level.

2813
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what was so fascinating to me is watching

2814
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 2: your career and like when when you started like four

2815
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:56,200
Speaker 2: or five six are to sustain a couple of injuries,

2816
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,200
Speaker 2: your ability to kind of take your head out of

2817
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 2: it but still be so productive. How did how is

2818
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 2: that like transition for you? Because it seemed, at least

2819
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 2: from me on film. Obviously, Okay, this guy's not putting

2820
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 2: his face in as much, but he's still finding ways

2821
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,919
Speaker 2: to manipulate blocks and be just as productive.

2822
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 7: Which you kind of nailed it. Like you the older

2823
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 7: you get like you physically you slow down, right, but

2824
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 7: it's like like physically you slow down, but like mentally

2825
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 7: you you learn more.

2826
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you passed your physical ability with mental ability.

2827
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 7: Yes, So then you're like, all right, I don't need

2828
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 7: to I don't need to go smash that guy. Like

2829
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 7: I know where his point of attack angles, I know

2830
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 7: where mine is. Can I speed him up? Can I

2831
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 7: slow him down? Can I get him playing at my speed?

2832
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 7: Like my advantages are quicker and faster. I might be

2833
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 7: a little bit I might have a little bit more

2834
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 7: like quick pop than he does. If I get in

2835
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 7: a dog fight with him, he's bigger, stronger, he's more powerful,

2836
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna lose like nine out of ten times. So

2837
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 7: it's like, how can I manipulate a block in the

2838
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 7: sense of like if I need to get there, and

2839
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 7: I can get you to slow your feet down or

2840
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 7: stop your feet now, I can speed up faster than you.

2841
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 7: I can slow down faster you. I can beat up

2842
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,520
Speaker 7: faster than you. So instead of like trying to run

2843
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 7: through your chest, if I can get you to stop

2844
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 7: your feed doom boom, I can just get past you

2845
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 7: that way. So it's like how can I You don't

2846
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 7: you don't want to hit a million guys in the game.

2847
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 2: It just wears you down. So it's like there's an

2848
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 2: ego element to it, like Mike Linebacker being a thumper,

2849
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 2: like you could hit Like was there a point where

2850
02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 2: like I don't want to give up this part of me,

2851
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 2: but I know it's the best from my longevity.

2852
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you just like you gotta you love the game

2853
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 7: of football, like you better figure out how to play

2854
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 7: it as long as you can. And that's just kind

2855
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:28,840
Speaker 7: of part of the Like it's kind of part of

2856
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:29,160
Speaker 7: the game.

2857
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 1: You know, talk to us about how when you were

2858
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 1: first starting to sustain the concussions, Like if I'm a

2859
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 1: teammate of yours and you get ding the first time, Oh, Luke,

2860
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 1: he's got a concussion. Second time, Luke's got a concussion.

2861
02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 2: Third time.

2862
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 1: When a pattern starts creeping up and then you're coming

2863
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,360
Speaker 1: into the cafeteria or something, and it's like, hey, what

2864
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 1: are you learning? Like, talk about that time as a

2865
02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 1: pattern starts to show itself with your head injury.

2866
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 2: Because there's always a point of feeling like vulnerable, like

2867
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 2: almost like mortals and.

2868
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,880
Speaker 1: Too like when you're getting stuff like concussions. You know

2869
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,000
Speaker 1: there's a part anytime you have an injury in your

2870
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 1: coming in the room, you're you feel like you've let

2871
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: everybody down, or like if you have an ankle right

2872
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: or a high ankle sprain, and guys might be like,

2873
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, they're not questioning can you go, but in

2874
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 1: your mind you're insecure enough to where you're like, I

2875
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:15,320
Speaker 1: hope these guys know that I am facing something pretty

2876
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 1: bad right now. I'm just not able to be on

2877
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, but yeah, talk about your the head injuries.

2878
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 7: I think a lot of it is what you learn

2879
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 7: and you know, like you said, you're twenty five years old,

2880
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 7: you're like, I'm fine. I think a lot of it

2881
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 7: is with the concussion stuff. It's like you need to

2882
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 7: be as honest with you can't with as you can

2883
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 7: with yourself and with everyone taking care of you, because

2884
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 7: if they don't know how you feel, they can't help you.

2885
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 7: So like, the more honest you are with them, the

2886
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 7: better and the quicker you can come back from whatever

2887
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:48,879
Speaker 7: you have going on concussion wise, And that's what I learned,

2888
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:53,640
Speaker 7: you know, probably the hard way is like our doctors

2889
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 7: are phenomenal. They took great care of me. They did

2890
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 7: everything they needed to do, And I just wish I

2891
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 7: would have learned from an earlier age to be more

2892
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 7: honest with them, because you got to get all the

2893
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 7: way back before you can go play again. Right, Yeah,

2894
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 7: Like there's no like, say you have like a risk

2895
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 7: that's bugging you, you can like tape it and like like okay.

2896
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a badge of honor when you're.

2897
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:13,880
Speaker 7: Like you just like figure it out, like or you

2898
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 7: do something to your finger, like all right, but like

2899
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 7: you don't really you'll be fine, yeah, versus your head,

2900
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 7: it's like you can't really tough it out. And the

2901
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 7: more you try to tough it out, the worse it gets.

2902
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 7: And then you start to realize, like why do I like,

2903
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 7: like you said, you want to play and like you

2904
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 7: want to bring value to your team, right, And then

2905
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 7: you start to realize, like, all right, if I'm not

2906
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 7: honest and I go back out before I should, I

2907
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 7: get dinged again, I'm providing less value to my team

2908
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 7: because now I'm gonna be out for longer. So it's like,

2909
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 7: all right, maybe it takes me, you know, two weeks

2910
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 7: to come back. I'd rather be honest and take those

2911
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,680
Speaker 7: fool two weeks and come back. Then after we'd be

2912
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:54,880
Speaker 7: like I'm good and like and you're not, and then

2913
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 7: you get dinged again. Now it's five weeks, so instead

2914
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 7: of it being a two week injury, it's a six

2915
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 7: week injury. And it's because you didn't take care of yourself.

2916
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 7: Like that's really I think what I learned, you know,

2917
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 7: probably not as quickly as I should have, But what

2918
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 7: I learned was the more honest you are with yourself,

2919
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 7: and the more honest you are with the guys that

2920
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 7: are their job is to take care of you, then

2921
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 7: the better it is for you, for them, for the team,

2922
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 7: for your you know, I just want to play football.

2923
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 7: The faster I can get back to playing football, So

2924
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 7: it's like everything gets better the more honest you are.

2925
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 1: Now when you had the first one, like, how many

2926
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 1: do you would do you think that you had before

2927
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: that first one?

2928
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:37,480
Speaker 7: I don't think I had zero, zero, Like for sure,

2929
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 7: like one hundred percent, because you always wonder like, well,

2930
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 7: I know if I get one, And then the first

2931
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:46,919
Speaker 7: one I got was in twenty fifteen, and I was like, yeah,

2932
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 7: that's that's one.

2933
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So and did that when you come back earlier

2934
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 1: from like when you're saying I learned it sooner if

2935
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 1: you did, if you feel like you didn't have any

2936
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: before that first one, was there some of those early

2937
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 1: ones that you're like trying to in your brain tough enough?

2938
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:02,160
Speaker 7: So that one was the first one, and I was like,

2939
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 7: I was like, I need to like get my I

2940
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 7: need to get better. And it worked out literally perfectly.

2941
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 7: So that was week one and then I think we played, Yeah,

2942
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 7: we played three games and we had to buy so

2943
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 7: you know, you got to two weeks into it, and

2944
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 7: our trainers like, dude, he's like, you need to relax

2945
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 7: first of all, because you're putting all this stress on yourself.

2946
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 7: So what's just you're not gonna play next week? How

2947
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 7: about that? And I wasn't. I wasn't going to be

2948
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 7: back anyways, but he like, I'd give him a lot

2949
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 7: of credit. Ryan Vermilion, he took all the the pressure

2950
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 7: off me and was like, we're just you're not going

2951
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 7: to play next week, and then the following weeks of

2952
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 7: bye week, so like you have two weeks so just

2953
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 7: like kind of relax. And that happened and I was like, oh,

2954
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 7: like okay. So then I remember I went home for

2955
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 7: the bye week, and I I knew how to aggravate it,

2956
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 7: like I knew how to give myself. A lot of

2957
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 7: it was uh oh uh exercise base, like heart rate base,

2958
02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 7: Like if I got my heart rate up, then I

2959
02:07:59,920 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 7: was start getting like headaches, and I was like, all right,

2960
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 7: I feel really good. It was like Thursday of the

2961
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 7: bye week, Thursday or Friday, I was back in Cincinnati

2962
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 7: and I wrote up like a really hard workout and

2963
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, this is like it like

2964
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 7: either I'm gonna be good or I'm not gonna be good.

2965
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 7: And there's like no one between either I'm gona feel

2966
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 7: like crap or gona feel really good. Yeah, and I

2967
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:21,080
Speaker 7: hit that working and I was like all right, I'm

2968
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 7: good and uh then and then I had a full

2969
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 7: a full another week of practice. So essentially you had

2970
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 7: like five weeks. You know, you're not really hitting anybody

2971
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 7: in practice.

2972
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:33,800
Speaker 2: Especially at that point. Yeah, that third week and then Mark.

2973
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was probably the best I could have handled it.

2974
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:38,680
Speaker 7: And then moving forward, you just have a couple when

2975
02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 7: you want to play, and so maybe you don't like

2976
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 7: you just I didn't handle it as probably well as

2977
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 7: I could have, and like it just it was it

2978
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 7: was unfortunate. But like now it's like you go talk

2979
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 7: to guys, you're dude, if you get one, like you

2980
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,400
Speaker 7: have to be smart and you got to be honest

2981
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:55,000
Speaker 7: with yourself.

2982
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a difficult game you're talking about though,

2983
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:59,560
Speaker 2: because you have the hindsight of like looking back, like

2984
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 2: when these like Will and I talk about all the time,

2985
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 2: Like when you're in it, there's like these blinders that

2986
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,040
Speaker 2: are on your eyes and you are solely focused on

2987
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 2: this thing and this is the main storyline of your life.

2988
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 2: But everything else, like the next forty years of your

2989
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:12,640
Speaker 2: life you're not even concerned about it. Yeah.

2990
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 7: Well, and you're also like the only thing I want

2991
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 7: to do is play football, right, Like that's it, Like

2992
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 7: I just want to play football. I want to be

2993
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 7: on the field with the guys, like I love playing

2994
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 7: football on Sundays. And then this prevents you from doing it.

2995
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 7: So you're like, I just won't play football like I

2996
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:29,000
Speaker 7: just won't play. I just won't play. I just won't play,

2997
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 7: And that clouds your judgment more than like really anything else.

2998
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 7: Is like I just miss wake up on Sunday during

2999
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 7: football season and like just like watching from your my house. Yeah,

3000
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 7: Like we played Tampa then in twenty fifteen, and I

3001
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 7: remember sitting in my apartment, like the team went down

3002
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:51,200
Speaker 7: there and I was just watching it at my house,

3003
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:52,320
Speaker 7: Like this freaking sucks.

3004
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 2: There's no there's no lonelier feeling than when a team

3005
02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 2: you're injured and the team goes on an away game,

3006
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 2: when you watch the buses leave and you're like you

3007
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 2: feel so ico everybody in your life. Yeah, it's terrible.

3008
02:10:03,680 --> 02:10:05,640
Speaker 7: But then it's like it's good perspective. It's like what

3009
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 7: do you take from it? And it's like all right,

3010
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 7: well when other guys are missing games, like you gotta

3011
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 7: have like like you got to check on those guys,

3012
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:14,760
Speaker 7: like dude, how you doing right? Because you know what's

3013
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 7: eating them up? Yeah, it's like, dude, I feel you man,

3014
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 7: like just get better.

3015
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get better. So how many did you end

3016
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 2: up getting throughout your career?

3017
02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:25,600
Speaker 7: Don't I don't know. I mean I miss some time

3018
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:30,080
Speaker 7: and obviously fifteen sixteen. I missed a game in seventeen

3019
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:34,440
Speaker 7: and then like nothing that was like really nothing like

3020
02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:35,400
Speaker 7: big after that?

3021
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 1: When was retirement starting to come into the fold end of.

3022
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:41,440
Speaker 7: That twenty nineteen season, because you just like clip a

3023
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 7: guy and you're like, dang, like like I don't. It

3024
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 7: wasn't like you know, you should just go smack dudes

3025
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:49,600
Speaker 7: and have no issues. I would go hit a guy

3026
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 7: and I'm like, didn't really feel great. And so then

3027
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 7: once you make the decision in your mind, like you know,

3028
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 7: I'm not all the way in it once, like mentally,

3029
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 7: were you starting to think about it a lot in

3030
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 7: two nineteen, Yeah, like like the last like the last

3031
02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 7: game of the year. I was like, I'm done. Done.

3032
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 2: So that's when you made your decisions that last week.

3033
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:15,800
Speaker 7: After so it was week it's week sixteen, so obviously

3034
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 7: week seventeens, last week, week sixteen. I remember being like, yeah,

3035
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 7: probably done.

3036
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:24,640
Speaker 2: So really was there a process of like talking to

3037
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:26,560
Speaker 2: anybody or was feeling.

3038
02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 7: I just remember after that game like I was like, yeah,

3039
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:31,800
Speaker 7: you don't, you don't got it anymore, Like you just

3040
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:33,520
Speaker 7: you don't, you don't like you don't have it.

3041
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 1: What's your you don't have it because I'm stay right.

3042
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 7: Now, yeah, like you know, you can't play. I would

3043
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 7: have been fine if like I physically slowed down, like

3044
02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 7: can't run as well, like not as fast, maybe I'm

3045
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 7: not as physical, maybe like I don't have the same

3046
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 7: like fire. I would have been fine with that, and

3047
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 7: I would have like kind of just probably milked it

3048
02:11:57,600 --> 02:11:59,520
Speaker 7: out a little bit more like Noah, I love playing.

3049
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:03,360
Speaker 7: But once I knew it was my head and I'm like, like, mentally,

3050
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, it's either yes or no, Like, if

3051
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 7: you slow down, you can, like physically you can still

3052
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:11,960
Speaker 7: play football hard and like play it fast and play

3053
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 7: with great effort. But once I knew in my head mentally,

3054
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 7: like it's not any of that. It's like your head stuff.

3055
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 7: Now you can't you can't in your brain. In my brain,

3056
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 7: I couldn't rationalize, like I can't play as hard as

3057
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 7: I want to. My effort's not going to be there.

3058
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 7: I can't be as physical. And once I knew that,

3059
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 7: I'm like, man, it's not fair to the guys in

3060
02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 7: the team, and it's not fair to the coaches, and

3061
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 7: it's not fair to like the fans and myself and

3062
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 7: my family for me to go out there at like

3063
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 7: mentally seventy five percent, Like if I got to thump

3064
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:50,280
Speaker 7: a guard and push a guy back to Chack to

3065
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 7: make a play and I'm like yeah, and like I

3066
02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 7: get widened and then and then the shack the tackles

3067
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 7: really hard on Shack, Like that's not fair to Shack

3068
02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:03,800
Speaker 7: for me to like, no, especially mentally, I know the

3069
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:07,960
Speaker 7: reason why I'm not stuffing that guy. Once I knew that,

3070
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 7: I was like okay, versus like I'm you know, Sam

3071
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 7: Suil playing right now and I'm thirty three years old

3072
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 7: and I go to stuff a guard and like that

3073
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:18,280
Speaker 7: dude's twenty five years old and he just mauls me.

3074
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 7: Like I'm like, I mean, I did everything right. I

3075
02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 7: tried hard. I prepared in the offseason, like I gave

3076
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 7: it everything I had. That guy's just a young dude

3077
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 7: and just beat me versus like in my head, I'm

3078
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 7: like I didn't take him on as like I didn't

3079
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 7: hit him how I should have, Like I'm not with that,

3080
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 7: Like I couldn't. I couldn't do that.

3081
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And knowing that your effort.

3082
02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:40,480
Speaker 7: Wasn't my effort wasn't there, and like that's not fair

3083
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:42,440
Speaker 7: to like the guys in the team.

3084
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:45,200
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, in yourself too, like

3085
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 1: you have to stand in your head of how you

3086
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 1: play the game and how you want to play the game,

3087
02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:50,600
Speaker 1: and you know, like not that you're half assing, but

3088
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 1: if you were thinking about that trying to smash a

3089
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:55,280
Speaker 1: guard and you're like, I didn't do this because of.

3090
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:56,720
Speaker 2: X, Y and Z. In my mind, it's just not

3091
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:58,320
Speaker 2: fair to any Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know.

3092
02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 1: So I love that you're sweating on the dudes.

3093
02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like this outside. Yeah, well we've had

3094
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 2: it as we actually started a gravel parking lot in

3095
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:11,840
Speaker 2: the middle of May. Yeah, dude, it's it's it's so

3096
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:13,920
Speaker 2: impressive to me because like when I talk to you,

3097
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 2: when I listen to you talk like this motherfucker loves ball,

3098
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 2: you could just tell he's not just about himself, he's

3099
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:21,320
Speaker 2: about the team. He's about everybody, everybody else's job, and

3100
02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:23,360
Speaker 2: I can I can feel that from you. And then

3101
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 2: you sit there and say, week sixteen, I knew I

3102
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:28,440
Speaker 2: was done and that was it. It's what was that

3103
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,400
Speaker 2: transition like for you? Because now you're going from a

3104
02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:34,040
Speaker 2: guy that I have no doubt was one hundred percent

3105
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:37,240
Speaker 2: in on football his entire life to now your service

3106
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:42,520
Speaker 2: bus brand. Yeah, you're you're one hundred percent in. And

3107
02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 2: now you're waking up in the fall and it's like, Okay,

3108
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:48,360
Speaker 2: you wake up in August and I know you're feeling

3109
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 2: we've done it for a few years now. It's like

3110
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:52,800
Speaker 2: you wake up in August and you're like, it's fucking great.

3111
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:55,640
Speaker 2: Like there's a priciview that's like all right, Like I know,

3112
02:14:55,720 --> 02:14:58,080
Speaker 2: all them boys fifteen minutes out of the room from

3113
02:14:58,080 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 2: my house are dying right now, and I just will

3114
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:02,000
Speaker 2: go my kids, you know, a little breakfast with them.

3115
02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:04,880
Speaker 2: There are so many positives, But then there's no Sundays

3116
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:06,440
Speaker 2: where you sit there and it's like two thirty and

3117
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 2: the noonslate's ending and you see your team catching a

3118
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:12,800
Speaker 2: big wine and it's like, fuck, I missed with that

3119
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 2: locker room. Is gonna feel like when they go back

3120
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah.

3121
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:18,280
Speaker 7: So my first year out, I worked with the team

3122
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:20,960
Speaker 7: in the scouting department, so that was cool. And then

3123
02:15:21,040 --> 02:15:22,920
Speaker 7: on game days I was in the booth with the

3124
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:27,240
Speaker 7: offense and I was the personnel guy. So like the

3125
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:29,080
Speaker 7: they'd come out and I'd be in charge of like

3126
02:15:29,120 --> 02:15:30,680
Speaker 7: are they nickel, are they in base? What kind of

3127
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:33,080
Speaker 7: base are they in? All that kind of stuff. So

3128
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:35,960
Speaker 7: that was hell, Yeah, get wed upgrade and we go

3129
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 7: from paper towers to pre towels.

3130
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 2: It's great. I felt like a little air coming into.

3131
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about your concussions.

3132
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, sweat my ass off.

3133
02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:47,840
Speaker 7: So it was cool. I got to be at the

3134
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:51,320
Speaker 7: games on Sundays, and the first year was the first

3135
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:53,360
Speaker 7: year was like damn man, like I still think I

3136
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:56,000
Speaker 7: can play, And so that part was hard. And then

3137
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:58,480
Speaker 7: the further way you get from it, you're like, like

3138
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:00,280
Speaker 7: I do the radio with the team. Now do the

3139
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:02,840
Speaker 7: radio broadcast. And I go on the field before the

3140
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:05,880
Speaker 7: game and you see these guys run by you and

3141
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 7: you're like, I'm good.

3142
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 2: All set, I'm good man, appreciate you.

3143
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:14,120
Speaker 7: Like Tristan works, he comes running by and you're like,

3144
02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 7: I'm all good.

3145
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:18,640
Speaker 2: There was a video two days ago on Instagram of

3146
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:21,200
Speaker 2: him squatting five plates for like three or four reps

3147
02:16:21,200 --> 02:16:21,600
Speaker 2: with ease.

3148
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:23,240
Speaker 7: He's like the nicest guy in the world.

3149
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great human. The Iowa cat Like, he's

3150
02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:28,960
Speaker 2: just a great dude. He just he is the athletic

3151
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 2: ability of a linebacker. Yeah, squad seven hundred pounds men.

3152
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 1: We were filming that a couple of years ago when

3153
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 1: we were at the that Arizona Bowl, and you're just

3154
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:37,879
Speaker 1: seeing the guys kind of warm up in practice and

3155
02:16:37,879 --> 02:16:39,680
Speaker 1: pop the pads a little bit beforehand, and you're just

3156
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:41,000
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking like what the.

3157
02:16:41,080 --> 02:16:44,880
Speaker 2: Fuck comes, Like, Yo, what psychopath would do this? Yeah? Yeah,

3158
02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:47,160
Speaker 2: because once you get out of it, like you get

3159
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 2: soft quick.

3160
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:50,280
Speaker 7: You want to be the guy that's like on the team,

3161
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:53,680
Speaker 7: but they put you on season ending ir so you're

3162
02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:55,600
Speaker 7: like you get to show up like you kind of

3163
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:58,000
Speaker 7: have a job, but like you don't have to play.

3164
02:16:58,040 --> 02:17:00,560
Speaker 7: You can still travel your stress. Yeah, stress, you like

3165
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:02,960
Speaker 7: walk out to practice, you drink some coffee. But you're

3166
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 7: on the team, so like your way of life is

3167
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:09,000
Speaker 7: like socially acceptable, you know what I mean, versus like

3168
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 7: if you get done, you're like I can't just like

3169
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:13,960
Speaker 7: go hang out in the locker room and like lift,

3170
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:15,240
Speaker 7: Like you can't do that.

3171
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, here comes this pro scout looke. Yeah you just

3172
02:17:17,800 --> 02:17:20,200
Speaker 1: want Yeah, you're like the places, right, you got to

3173
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:21,959
Speaker 1: go bring a guy upstairs and get cut.

3174
02:17:21,800 --> 02:17:23,960
Speaker 2: Like yeah that year, did you ever have to do that?

3175
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,440
Speaker 7: Brought one guy up the worst.

3176
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about the year being in the pro scouting.

3177
02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:30,920
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, you learn a lot about the NFL,

3178
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:33,720
Speaker 7: like what plays, types of guys in the NFL. Like

3179
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:36,920
Speaker 7: you learn a ton and it was super cool. Like

3180
02:17:36,959 --> 02:17:40,920
Speaker 7: I learned a lot and it was super beneficial, but

3181
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:42,720
Speaker 7: it wasn't something I wanted to do long term, but

3182
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:47,000
Speaker 7: like you really get to see like what play, like

3183
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:49,840
Speaker 7: the difference between personnel and a three four versus personnel

3184
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:53,160
Speaker 7: and a four to three, Like body types like lengthd

3185
02:17:53,160 --> 02:17:55,560
Speaker 7: what guys are looking for, what plays, what doesn't play,

3186
02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:58,920
Speaker 7: types of running backs, Like you don't have a feel

3187
02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:00,680
Speaker 7: for that. While you're playing. Is all you do is

3188
02:18:00,720 --> 02:18:05,400
Speaker 7: studying an opponent. You're not studying like you know height, weight, speed, size,

3189
02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 7: how they play, what kind of football player they are,

3190
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,040
Speaker 7: And you learn like the whole league by doing that.

3191
02:18:10,040 --> 02:18:12,160
Speaker 7: Because we did, we had to watch all the free

3192
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:15,600
Speaker 7: agents for that season going into the next year. So

3193
02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:17,680
Speaker 7: then like now moving forward, like you watch a guy

3194
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:21,200
Speaker 7: and you're like, like, we watched that guy for twenty

3195
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:23,320
Speaker 7: five minutes and graded him and wrote a report on him,

3196
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:24,680
Speaker 7: and like it's it was really cool.

3197
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:32,720
Speaker 1: So was it like cutting I just remember going up there,

3198
02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:34,720
Speaker 1: probably a linebacker.

3199
02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:37,800
Speaker 7: I remember it was a corner and I remember just

3200
02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:39,400
Speaker 7: walking up there, and I remember I walked into the

3201
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:41,920
Speaker 7: GM's office and I'm like, hey, look like I'm down

3202
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 7: to do a lot of things, Like I kind of

3203
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:47,920
Speaker 7: don't want to do that, like after after the fact that, yeah,

3204
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:49,480
Speaker 7: I was like, guys, like I I'd rather just like

3205
02:18:49,560 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 7: not do that. I feel bad because, like, I know

3206
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:55,400
Speaker 7: how hard it is to play and like and make

3207
02:18:55,440 --> 02:18:57,080
Speaker 7: the roster. It feel like you're on the roster and

3208
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:59,080
Speaker 7: then get cut, Like you see all your buddies do

3209
02:18:59,120 --> 02:19:01,480
Speaker 7: that throughout your whole career, and you're like, man, like

3210
02:19:01,879 --> 02:19:04,560
Speaker 7: I'd rather not be that guy that has to do that.

3211
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:06,880
Speaker 7: And they're like they're like, yeah, sorry, we don't have

3212
02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:07,400
Speaker 7: to do that anymore.

3213
02:19:07,560 --> 02:19:09,520
Speaker 2: Like cool, You're like, damn, you know you got pulling

3214
02:19:09,560 --> 02:19:13,200
Speaker 2: the gym apologize to Luke's a grim reaper.

3215
02:19:13,360 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, guy, you don't want to be that guy

3216
02:19:15,320 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 7: because you know, you're you're standing at the door waiting

3217
02:19:17,560 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 7: for them to come in from practice and everyone's.

3218
02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:21,400
Speaker 2: Like, Luke, what's up.

3219
02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 7: Man.

3220
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:23,000
Speaker 2: You're like, hey, can I talk to you?

3221
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 7: And they're like dang, yeah.

3222
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:28,320
Speaker 2: And one year removed. Yeah, like eighty percent of that

3223
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:30,279
Speaker 2: roster knows you as a team.

3224
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:30,720
Speaker 7: As a teammate.

3225
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:31,360
Speaker 2: So I got up.

3226
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:33,280
Speaker 7: I got up there and they're like, we're sorry, Like

3227
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 7: it's cool, I just rather not do that again.

3228
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Was this a guy that was on the team

3229
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:38,000
Speaker 2: the year before.

3230
02:19:37,800 --> 02:19:39,640
Speaker 7: We know, but he was a dude, that's like he

3231
02:19:39,959 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 7: he was like a dude, like a dude in the

3232
02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:42,400
Speaker 7: league for a while.

3233
02:19:42,879 --> 02:19:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh so, and when you when he says something to him,

3234
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:49,160
Speaker 2: was there any like common like, man, you're the grim Reaper? No?

3235
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:51,320
Speaker 7: I think he I think he probably knew it was coming,

3236
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:53,199
Speaker 7: but it doesn't make it any easier.

3237
02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's he was a vet, herenerstood game.

3238
02:19:55,440 --> 02:19:56,880
Speaker 7: He's been in the league for a long time, and

3239
02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:59,760
Speaker 7: like it was a dude. So I think he's probably.

3240
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:02,320
Speaker 1: Like Luke's trying to study on how to cut guys.

3241
02:20:02,320 --> 02:20:03,560
Speaker 1: He's just throwing on moneyball.

3242
02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

3243
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:08,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's at any point during that season of

3244
02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:10,720
Speaker 2: you being a scout or doing whatever you were doing,

3245
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:12,640
Speaker 2: did they have a reproach you and be like, hey,

3246
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:15,240
Speaker 2: could you play a couple more games for us?

3247
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:18,360
Speaker 7: They always joked about it, but I was like, guys,

3248
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:23,359
Speaker 7: like you know, how quickly you tighten up like quads,

3249
02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:28,680
Speaker 7: he low back. You know, the guy's like running and

3250
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:30,959
Speaker 7: looks like they get shot. That would have been me,

3251
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:34,800
Speaker 7: Like first time they run, you know, a seam ball

3252
02:20:34,840 --> 02:20:36,240
Speaker 7: and I got to chase the guy in the middle field.

3253
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the first game, the first game

3254
02:20:38,440 --> 02:20:40,320
Speaker 2: that Michael linebacker didn't have a great one and someone

3255
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 2: made a joke to you, if you would have been like, yeah,

3256
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:45,000
Speaker 2: I'll give it another like are you for real?

3257
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:50,360
Speaker 7: My injury waiver would have been like this long? Yeah huge,

3258
02:20:50,760 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 7: I mean that paycheck though it would have been a

3259
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:53,840
Speaker 7: league minimum.

3260
02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:58,920
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, you pull that hamstring. I are

3261
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:03,080
Speaker 2: the rest of the season. That's yeah, that would have

3262
02:21:03,080 --> 02:21:06,560
Speaker 2: been nice. Bro. Thanks, he's on the team still that

3263
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:09,920
Speaker 2: guy there, Yeah that is that would suck to me.

3264
02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 1: Now, did you were you in a point too mentally

3265
02:21:12,320 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 1: to where you're, uh, you're juggling or trying to figure

3266
02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:18,360
Speaker 1: out what you're wanting to do long term, like how's

3267
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 1: everything checking up?

3268
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:19,200
Speaker 3: Now?

3269
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:22,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned your youth football coach with with Greg Goles,

3270
02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:24,160
Speaker 1: so shout out the boy Greg, you do radio stuff.

3271
02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:26,440
Speaker 1: Was there a moment to where you're like, man, I

3272
02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of don't I have no clue what I want

3273
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:29,880
Speaker 1: to do, and I'm kind of chasing some dead ends.

3274
02:21:29,959 --> 02:21:32,480
Speaker 7: I think you yeah, I think there's you don't know

3275
02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:34,080
Speaker 7: what you want to do. Obviously, like you get done

3276
02:21:34,120 --> 02:21:35,800
Speaker 7: and like like perfect word, I would have I would

3277
02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:37,880
Speaker 7: have loved have kept playing, So like I probably happened

3278
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 7: earlier than I wanted it to. And so then the

3279
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:44,320
Speaker 7: process becomes like you have to just continually try stuff

3280
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:47,280
Speaker 7: until you find stuff that you like, and then once

3281
02:21:47,320 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 7: you like it, then just keep doing it. And then

3282
02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:51,400
Speaker 7: if you don't like it, then you stop doing it.

3283
02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:53,039
Speaker 7: But like you have to there needs to be a

3284
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:58,160
Speaker 7: concerted effort. Two, if you're going to go do something like,

3285
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:00,120
Speaker 7: you got to go all the way in, because if

3286
02:22:00,160 --> 02:22:02,680
Speaker 7: you tiptoe around it, you're not gonna get the full experience.

3287
02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:05,879
Speaker 7: You're gonna waste your time. More importantly, you're you're using

3288
02:22:05,879 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 7: somebody else's time too, Like if somebody's gonna help you

3289
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:11,760
Speaker 7: try to dive into something and you and you don't

3290
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 7: go all the way and you're wasting their time. So

3291
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:15,000
Speaker 7: it's like, all right, I'm gonna go all the way

3292
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:16,400
Speaker 7: in on a couple of things. I'm gonna try certain

3293
02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:20,160
Speaker 7: things out. I tried scouting, just wasn't my thing. It

3294
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 7: was fun, It's just like I'm not doing this long term.

3295
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:24,800
Speaker 2: And then they too, Yeah, just busy.

3296
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:27,720
Speaker 7: Then the next year I did the radio with the

3297
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:31,039
Speaker 7: Panthers radio broadcast, like that's awesome, Like I really like that.

3298
02:22:31,400 --> 02:22:35,080
Speaker 7: So that's pretty much the whole season, and then the

3299
02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:39,240
Speaker 7: youth football stuff with Greg. So his son Tates in

3300
02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:41,280
Speaker 7: that picture and that's his dad, Chris. His dad Chris

3301
02:22:41,320 --> 02:22:45,680
Speaker 7: coached high school football on Jersey and just look them up.

3302
02:22:45,879 --> 02:22:47,720
Speaker 7: They didn't lose a game for like five years in

3303
02:22:47,720 --> 02:22:47,959
Speaker 7: a row.

3304
02:22:49,160 --> 02:22:50,520
Speaker 2: Look them up. Just look them up.

3305
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:53,119
Speaker 7: So we've been doing that for this will be our

3306
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:57,400
Speaker 7: fourth year. So it's been awesome, like we have a

3307
02:22:57,440 --> 02:22:59,360
Speaker 7: ton of fun with it. We coach at a a

3308
02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:03,880
Speaker 7: school and Arlott Charlotte Christian is the school. Check us out, okay,

3309
02:23:05,320 --> 02:23:07,320
Speaker 7: And this is our first year coaching at Charlotte Christian

3310
02:23:07,360 --> 02:23:10,400
Speaker 7: was last year because Tate, Greg's oldest was in seventh grade,

3311
02:23:10,440 --> 02:23:12,720
Speaker 7: so we did coach Pop Warner for two years and

3312
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:14,400
Speaker 7: then Tate got in the seventh grade. So then we

3313
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:16,880
Speaker 7: coach at the grade school which is attached to the

3314
02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:19,119
Speaker 7: high school, and then we'll coach again at the high

3315
02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:19,800
Speaker 7: school this year.

3316
02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:22,240
Speaker 1: So what happens to the current staff that's like, you know,

3317
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:24,680
Speaker 1: so they kind of bounce back kind of like, hey, Greg.

3318
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:26,000
Speaker 2: Ols and Louke Keiley they're coming in.

3319
02:23:26,280 --> 02:23:29,320
Speaker 7: So it's awesome. So it's really we got a new staff.

3320
02:23:29,480 --> 02:23:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.

3321
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:33,360
Speaker 7: The two guys that like make it run it are

3322
02:23:33,400 --> 02:23:36,800
Speaker 7: Greg and his dad, like they're phenomenal, and then the

3323
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:38,680
Speaker 7: other we got two or two or three other guys.

3324
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:42,000
Speaker 7: Three other guys, So it's Stu Jonathan Stewart Okay coaches

3325
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:44,720
Speaker 7: the running backs, which has been phenomenal, just a crazy

3326
02:23:44,879 --> 02:23:48,320
Speaker 7: and then Todd Blacklice. So Todd Blackler's quarterback at Penn

3327
02:23:48,360 --> 02:23:51,440
Speaker 7: State National Championship one was a first round pick. Now

3328
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:56,280
Speaker 7: does NBC. I think it's NBC College with Noah Eagle

3329
02:23:56,360 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 7: Iron Eagle son, so that he does he does college

3330
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:02,879
Speaker 7: football on Saturday, big, big, big game. So he did

3331
02:24:02,879 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 7: all have State Oregon last year. He's like he's a

3332
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:07,359
Speaker 7: little bit and he lives in and he lives in Charlotte.

3333
02:24:07,400 --> 02:24:11,720
Speaker 7: So it's so much fun because I mean, Greg and

3334
02:24:11,760 --> 02:24:13,280
Speaker 7: Stu are like some of my best budds when we

3335
02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 7: were playing, so I get to hang out with them.

3336
02:24:14,680 --> 02:24:17,600
Speaker 7: Greg's Dad's awesome, Todd's great, and we just have a

3337
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:18,440
Speaker 7: ton of fun with it.

3338
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:22,959
Speaker 2: Would you ever want to call games like Greg does

3339
02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:23,640
Speaker 2: rap right?

3340
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,480
Speaker 7: The I think so the radio. The interesting thing about

3341
02:24:27,520 --> 02:24:29,400
Speaker 7: radio and TV, so radio you really just talk about

3342
02:24:29,440 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 7: like what's happening in the game, and like why it's happening.

3343
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:36,040
Speaker 7: What I think is cool about TV is like Greg

3344
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:40,320
Speaker 7: does a phenomenal job of like setting games up, and

3345
02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:43,000
Speaker 7: like what I mean by setting it up is like

3346
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:46,640
Speaker 7: talking about what he anticipates going to happen in the game,

3347
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:50,120
Speaker 7: why it's gonna happen, what you know, say, it'd be

3348
02:24:50,200 --> 02:24:53,199
Speaker 7: like if say Tristan Wurfs has missed the last couple

3349
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:55,840
Speaker 7: weeks and he's back in the lineup, Greg will talk about,

3350
02:24:56,200 --> 02:24:57,880
Speaker 7: you know, Tristan Wurf's is back in the lineup, this

3351
02:24:57,920 --> 02:24:59,240
Speaker 7: is how it affects him in the run game, in

3352
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:01,680
Speaker 7: the past game, this is where Tristan Wurfs is really

3353
02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:03,680
Speaker 7: good in the run game. So maybe they're gonna like

3354
02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:05,920
Speaker 7: Greg does it way better than that. But you can

3355
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:09,480
Speaker 7: really lay out a game doing TV because you don't

3356
02:25:09,520 --> 02:25:11,800
Speaker 7: have to explain what's happening every play because the viewer

3357
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 7: can watch the game, and Greg is able to set

3358
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 7: it up early in the game and then really talk

3359
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:21,160
Speaker 7: through situational stuff and get into, you know, really why

3360
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,760
Speaker 7: things are happening and why why it worked, why it did.

3361
02:25:23,879 --> 02:25:26,880
Speaker 7: He does a great job with that, and I think

3362
02:25:26,879 --> 02:25:29,000
Speaker 7: that part would be really cool. But I just have

3363
02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:32,160
Speaker 7: a ton of fun with the radio stuff, and like

3364
02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:33,879
Speaker 7: I told you, guys, like I just try to do

3365
02:25:33,959 --> 02:25:36,520
Speaker 7: things that I enjoy, and I enjoy the radio. I

3366
02:25:36,520 --> 02:25:39,160
Speaker 7: think the TV would be really would be really fun

3367
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:40,760
Speaker 7: as well. So I just kind of see what happens.

3368
02:25:40,840 --> 02:25:44,560
Speaker 1: You ever you got out to uh Buffalo, yeah, for

3369
02:25:44,680 --> 02:25:47,240
Speaker 1: some uh for some coaching. Do you ever see yourself

3370
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:48,879
Speaker 1: coaching in the league one day or trying to coach

3371
02:25:48,920 --> 02:25:49,720
Speaker 1: at a high level like that?

3372
02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:51,240
Speaker 7: I think it'd be a ton of fun. It's just

3373
02:25:51,240 --> 02:25:52,120
Speaker 7: those hours, Like.

3374
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:53,120
Speaker 2: Bro, they're nuts.

3375
02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:55,879
Speaker 1: It's it's it's like, take what players do when they're

3376
02:25:55,959 --> 02:25:59,240
Speaker 1: studying all week long, and yeah coaches, man, it's it's

3377
02:25:59,280 --> 02:25:59,959
Speaker 1: like around the clock.

3378
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:02,080
Speaker 7: It's just all the time. And like I'm just not

3379
02:26:02,280 --> 02:26:05,800
Speaker 7: ready to give up that much time. So I mean

3380
02:26:05,959 --> 02:26:06,600
Speaker 7: answer proably not.

3381
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, the hours are crazy. I don't I mean,

3382
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:12,840
Speaker 2: you the boy might there's like an itch, there's an

3383
02:26:12,879 --> 02:26:14,440
Speaker 2: itch in there. It's somewhere. I don't know.

3384
02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:17,360
Speaker 7: If it's not a lot about doing is doing it

3385
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:20,680
Speaker 7: during OTAs. Yeah, So get out there and OTAs and

3386
02:26:20,760 --> 02:26:23,720
Speaker 7: like and be like hey, these next six weeks, like

3387
02:26:23,879 --> 02:26:26,879
Speaker 7: I'm in, like every day, I'm in whenever you guys are,

3388
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:30,440
Speaker 7: and just do it and then you'll know by the

3389
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 7: end of that I like yes or no.

3390
02:26:31,800 --> 02:26:31,959
Speaker 8: Yeah.

3391
02:26:31,959 --> 02:26:35,000
Speaker 2: But OTAs is such a different vibe than camp and season. Yeah.

3392
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Ots is so light. The coaches are feel good, everyone's

3393
02:26:37,959 --> 02:26:40,160
Speaker 2: kind of joking around. The minute you walk into the

3394
02:26:40,160 --> 02:26:42,720
Speaker 2: building July twenty fifth or whenever that you know, everyone

3395
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:44,600
Speaker 2: goes into camp. Buttles are tight.

3396
02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:44,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

3397
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:46,600
Speaker 2: Not only that, but if you get behind the eight

3398
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:49,080
Speaker 2: ball in the season. Yeah, yeah, you start off in

3399
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 2: you two and two, one and three, people just pissed off.

3400
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:56,400
Speaker 2: You're trying to navigate bad attitudes everywhere. It's difficult. That's

3401
02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:59,519
Speaker 2: like one thing you don't miss is like the bipolarness

3402
02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:00,960
Speaker 2: of coaches and teammates.

3403
02:27:01,400 --> 02:27:05,720
Speaker 7: It's like you miss like that, like not stress, but

3404
02:27:05,800 --> 02:27:07,000
Speaker 7: like that pressure of.

3405
02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:09,080
Speaker 2: Like we gotta go, like we gotta Yeah, it's a

3406
02:27:09,080 --> 02:27:10,000
Speaker 2: big one right here.

3407
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:11,320
Speaker 7: Like we got to go make this like this is

3408
02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:13,560
Speaker 7: a big game. This is for a lot of reasons,

3409
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:17,119
Speaker 7: Like you miss that, like the urgency, that urgency, that's pressure.

3410
02:27:16,840 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Those week like Week fourteen on when your team's like

3411
02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:21,440
Speaker 2: on the bubble, like are we going to make the playoffs?

3412
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Are we not?

3413
02:27:21,959 --> 02:27:23,959
Speaker 2: What do we control in our destiny? What teams have

3414
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:26,200
Speaker 2: to lose? And it's like you're kind of with your

3415
02:27:26,240 --> 02:27:28,120
Speaker 2: little whether it's a linebacker group or meet at the

3416
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:30,000
Speaker 2: offensive lineman's like we got to do X, Y and

3417
02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Z to make a wild card. Didn't happen for us.

3418
02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:34,120
Speaker 2: That's why you play the band of brothers.

3419
02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:37,480
Speaker 7: December like you want to be you want to you

3420
02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:39,280
Speaker 7: want your season the matter in December.

3421
02:27:39,440 --> 02:27:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

3422
02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:42,760
Speaker 7: You obviously want it to matter in like September, October, November,

3423
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:45,680
Speaker 7: but like if it comes December and you're like, hey,

3424
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 7: like you're in the un We're in the mix, and.

3425
02:27:48,280 --> 02:27:50,199
Speaker 2: Then anything can happen in January.

3426
02:27:49,800 --> 02:27:52,200
Speaker 7: It didn't even matter, Like you're in the mix. Like

3427
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:53,800
Speaker 7: you're in the mix, that's all that matters. And now

3428
02:27:53,800 --> 02:27:56,119
Speaker 7: you got to just go play your best ball. It's

3429
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:57,000
Speaker 7: that's the best.

3430
02:27:56,760 --> 02:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Part of that is the worst feeling in the world

3431
02:27:58,879 --> 02:28:02,320
Speaker 2: is December and nothing matter. Yeah, and you're like, you

3432
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:04,160
Speaker 2: hear the older guys in my first two years, we

3433
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:06,760
Speaker 2: won five games my first two years, and I'm hearing

3434
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:08,800
Speaker 2: older guys talk about Cabo and all these things are

3435
02:28:08,840 --> 02:28:10,600
Speaker 2: going to go on, and you're just still so involved

3436
02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:13,280
Speaker 2: and you think every game still matters. What's going on here,

3437
02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:17,160
Speaker 2: guys feeling? Yeah, exactly.

3438
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:19,680
Speaker 1: Play for the name on your back now, yeah, anything,

3439
02:28:20,640 --> 02:28:25,360
Speaker 1: find it somewhere. Yeah, but you get those coaches the whay,

3440
02:28:25,400 --> 02:28:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, might they might be on the outs where

3441
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:30,200
Speaker 1: they just start giving the play for the name on

3442
02:28:30,240 --> 02:28:33,280
Speaker 1: your back. Whatever you play for, whether you find and

3443
02:28:33,320 --> 02:28:36,400
Speaker 1: you just know, way, we're all in December and we're nobody.

3444
02:28:37,400 --> 02:28:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's.

3445
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:40,880
Speaker 1: The name on your front, your family at home, maybe

3446
02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:42,879
Speaker 1: the cash of the bake account, name on your back.

3447
02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:45,120
Speaker 2: Let that heart turn black walk.

3448
02:28:47,560 --> 02:28:49,320
Speaker 7: Oh man, you gotta find it though.

3449
02:28:49,600 --> 02:28:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this has been awesome. Yeah it has. I

3450
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:54,800
Speaker 2: was just gonna ask if you have any hobbies outside

3451
02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:55,200
Speaker 2: of like.

3452
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 7: The football I love so I loved bow Hunt.

3453
02:28:58,480 --> 02:28:59,480
Speaker 2: Really, that's my favorite thing.

3454
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:01,160
Speaker 7: I get a little you. Oh you guys are out there.

3455
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:06,480
Speaker 1: With Yeah, dude, he's a real man too, they have

3456
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:07,440
Speaker 1: you out there, and you know.

3457
02:29:07,480 --> 02:29:09,520
Speaker 7: I love That's that's another reason I want to coach.

3458
02:29:09,560 --> 02:29:14,199
Speaker 7: I love the bow hunt. Yeah, white tail, elk, anything

3459
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:15,959
Speaker 7: with the bow that's like my jam. You.

3460
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you go out there to Montana.

3461
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:20,880
Speaker 7: So yeah, I love to hunt elk in Montana. And

3462
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:22,480
Speaker 7: then New Mexico's a really good state too.

3463
02:29:22,800 --> 02:29:22,920
Speaker 6: Well.

3464
02:29:22,920 --> 02:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying since we're on the airways right now,

3465
02:29:24,959 --> 02:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Garrett cal Rinella, whoever's listening for meat.

3466
02:29:27,560 --> 02:29:31,240
Speaker 7: Eater, Yeah, get your get I got a great concept.

3467
02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 7: There's I hope he has had fun.

3468
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:34,400
Speaker 2: There's so much fun.

3469
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:37,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they missed, but it was a blast.

3470
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but she's part of But you pulled the trigger.

3471
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:41,440
Speaker 2: I did a lot of guys would stiffen up and

3472
02:29:41,480 --> 02:29:42,240
Speaker 2: even pull that trigger.

3473
02:29:42,240 --> 02:29:44,400
Speaker 7: Okay, so you did something that at the moment, you

3474
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 7: showed up.

3475
02:29:45,800 --> 02:29:48,359
Speaker 2: I know. And it's fun too because Will and I

3476
02:29:47,879 --> 02:29:49,840
Speaker 2: we don't. I look in your eyes and you talk

3477
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,560
Speaker 2: about bow hunting and I just don't. I don't have that.

3478
02:29:51,959 --> 02:29:54,440
Speaker 2: But to go out with them and then like work

3479
02:29:54,520 --> 02:29:56,480
Speaker 2: us through like long range rifle streaming. I went and

3480
02:29:56,480 --> 02:29:58,360
Speaker 2: sat down and I went one for five on my

3481
02:29:58,400 --> 02:30:00,280
Speaker 2: first five shots, and I was like, this is going

3482
02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:02,160
Speaker 2: to be the longest couple of days of my life.

3483
02:30:02,360 --> 02:30:04,200
Speaker 2: But then Garrett starts sitting there working with me, and

3484
02:30:04,240 --> 02:30:06,280
Speaker 2: he's like try this is and this He's lining me up.

3485
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:08,879
Speaker 2: They're great coaches. They don't make you feel stupid even

3486
02:30:08,879 --> 02:30:11,039
Speaker 2: though they're like such bigger, better men than you are.

3487
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:12,400
Speaker 2: It's just awesome, man.

3488
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:16,840
Speaker 7: It's like those these animals live in beautiful areas. Yeah,

3489
02:30:17,720 --> 02:30:20,440
Speaker 7: you go hunt ELK, You're gonna be somewhere sweet. Yeah,

3490
02:30:20,480 --> 02:30:23,560
Speaker 7: the mountains. The weather's beautiful, it's in the fall, and

3491
02:30:23,720 --> 02:30:25,520
Speaker 7: it's just that's like my favorite time of year. And

3492
02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:27,080
Speaker 7: they go do that stuff. It's just sweet.

3493
02:30:27,400 --> 02:30:29,720
Speaker 1: What's been your longest like el hunt to where you're

3494
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:30,760
Speaker 1: tracking it down?

3495
02:30:31,160 --> 02:30:32,560
Speaker 2: We did so climbing mountains.

3496
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:35,640
Speaker 7: Now usually we hunt out of like an outfitter, and

3497
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:39,600
Speaker 7: it's usually I haven't done like the full like nine miles,

3498
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:42,280
Speaker 7: ten miles in on a horse and then you set

3499
02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 7: up spike camp. I haven't done that.

3500
02:30:43,840 --> 02:30:44,560
Speaker 2: I like that.

3501
02:30:45,080 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 7: I'm gonna wake up. I'm gonna wake up early in

3502
02:30:46,600 --> 02:30:48,240
Speaker 7: the morning. I'm gonna be out all day and then.

3503
02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm gonna come home. Yes, is there do

3504
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:54,640
Speaker 2: we have.

3505
02:30:54,600 --> 02:30:57,160
Speaker 7: That you don't have to read that, you can just

3506
02:30:57,200 --> 02:30:57,520
Speaker 7: read them.

3507
02:30:57,680 --> 02:30:58,440
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect.

3508
02:30:58,520 --> 02:31:01,840
Speaker 1: We do have a bud like question for Okay, people

3509
02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 1: would do anything for a bud light. What would you

3510
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:05,680
Speaker 1: do anything for?

3511
02:31:06,440 --> 02:31:08,920
Speaker 7: Oh? My probably my parents, I think.

3512
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that's about wholesome.

3513
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:13,920
Speaker 7: Like you think about your parents and like what your

3514
02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:17,200
Speaker 7: parents have done for you, everything from growing up to

3515
02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:19,360
Speaker 7: high school to college. At all my games in college,

3516
02:31:19,360 --> 02:31:22,160
Speaker 7: it came to down to Carolina, it's like your parents.

3517
02:31:22,160 --> 02:31:25,600
Speaker 7: My parents were fantastic. They set you up for everything.

3518
02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:28,720
Speaker 7: Everything was about my brothers and I and so, yeah,

3519
02:31:28,760 --> 02:31:30,959
Speaker 7: you do anything for him, they do anything for you, You

3520
02:31:30,840 --> 02:31:31,560
Speaker 7: do anything for them.

3521
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:33,119
Speaker 2: I love the short answers.

3522
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good heart, awesome, beautiful my parents.

3523
02:31:37,160 --> 02:31:39,480
Speaker 2: You have how many brothers? Yeah? I got two brothers.

3524
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:42,640
Speaker 7: So there's a picture order brothers on the right. That's John,

3525
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:45,920
Speaker 7: he lives in Cincinnati. There's my dad, my mom, and

3526
02:31:45,959 --> 02:31:47,240
Speaker 7: then my younger brother Henry.

3527
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Were they some dogs.

3528
02:31:49,720 --> 02:31:53,000
Speaker 7: John played football and lacrosse through high school and then

3529
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:55,080
Speaker 7: Henry was a basketball player.

3530
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I love that.

3531
02:31:57,440 --> 02:31:58,360
Speaker 7: Yeah do you?

3532
02:31:59,360 --> 02:32:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure who's that that profile that has the Luke

3533
02:32:03,640 --> 02:32:05,440
Speaker 1: video where he's going where he's going.

3534
02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:10,160
Speaker 2: Who's next? Oh that somebody said that is awesome. That guy,

3535
02:32:10,280 --> 02:32:13,720
Speaker 2: that guy, Who's next Danny or something like that. He's

3536
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:17,039
Speaker 2: all time. That guy's hilarious. Yeah, he is. Paul.

3537
02:32:17,240 --> 02:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Anything that we've missed, we do have Paul Swans sending

3538
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:21,880
Speaker 1: in the back with the boys right now grinding it out.

3539
02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Paul was very pivotal in getting the boys in a

3540
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:27,279
Speaker 1: Creatine and an Intangibles group chat with Luke and myself.

3541
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:30,800
Speaker 9: We got creating on the bus right now. Can we

3542
02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:35,480
Speaker 9: can we take house have some of my suitcase. We

3543
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:37,160
Speaker 9: can take them later on when we get done here.

3544
02:32:37,320 --> 02:32:37,800
Speaker 2: Put up.

3545
02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:42,840
Speaker 9: It's something going boys, not the real creatam Yeah.

3546
02:32:43,280 --> 02:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Anything that I've missed with Luke.

3547
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:47,520
Speaker 9: I mean, this is this is the all American man

3548
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:49,680
Speaker 9: right here. And that answer right there, I mean that's

3549
02:32:49,720 --> 02:32:51,720
Speaker 9: just that's gold the parents.

3550
02:32:52,240 --> 02:32:52,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3551
02:32:53,560 --> 02:32:56,400
Speaker 9: So I actually just got done here and him talk

3552
02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:58,560
Speaker 9: about most of this when we were talking to Coach

3553
02:32:58,640 --> 02:32:59,640
Speaker 9: Lee over at Vanderbilt.

3554
02:32:59,720 --> 02:33:03,400
Speaker 2: So he's been talking about it a lot, just diving in.

3555
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's breaking down all the players too. How to

3556
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 1: watch film, how to break down film.

3557
02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:13,040
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what that the diego Pavia, He's got it.

3558
02:33:13,360 --> 02:33:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, like itvage. What do you love about him?

3559
02:33:17,680 --> 02:33:20,480
Speaker 7: He's like he walks into a room and he's the

3560
02:33:20,600 --> 02:33:23,120
Speaker 7: dude without trying to be the dude. And he can

3561
02:33:23,160 --> 02:33:26,039
Speaker 7: talk to everybody. He can talk to offensive coaches, defensive coaches.

3562
02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:29,520
Speaker 7: He understands. He's got great His football IQ is great,

3563
02:33:29,959 --> 02:33:34,200
Speaker 7: ultra competitive. He's just he's that dude, like he's got it.

3564
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:35,199
Speaker 2: I love you know what I'm saying.

3565
02:33:35,480 --> 02:33:38,039
Speaker 1: You can tell Luke's got his uh his pro scouting

3566
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:40,039
Speaker 1: background too, so he can like talk about these.

3567
02:33:42,320 --> 02:33:45,840
Speaker 7: Snap Yeah, if guys come talk to him, they'll be like,

3568
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:48,200
Speaker 7: we need to find a way to get this guy

3569
02:33:48,440 --> 02:33:49,040
Speaker 7: around us.

3570
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he is. He is electric.

3571
02:33:50,959 --> 02:33:52,560
Speaker 7: He's a football dude, football guy.

3572
02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:53,800
Speaker 2: He just loves ball.

3573
02:33:53,920 --> 02:33:54,680
Speaker 7: He loves the game.

3574
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:56,320
Speaker 2: He embraces it. It's that's all.

3575
02:33:56,360 --> 02:33:58,959
Speaker 7: He knows all about football. And you know, those guys

3576
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,840
Speaker 7: hard to come by. You know you still I.

3577
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:05,119
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, did CM have it when he first came.

3578
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:07,040
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, that dude was born with it.

3579
02:34:07,160 --> 02:34:07,760
Speaker 2: That he is.

3580
02:34:08,520 --> 02:34:11,160
Speaker 7: Talk about a guy that loves football and all he

3581
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:14,760
Speaker 7: wants to do is just be a good teammate, play hard.

3582
02:34:14,879 --> 02:34:17,280
Speaker 7: Christian the O g incredible White.

3583
02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another Hall of Fame, all the first ballot

3584
02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. You talk about a guy. I had

3585
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:27,920
Speaker 2: a tough photo for c MC though. I mean he's

3586
02:34:27,959 --> 02:34:28,680
Speaker 2: a built cat.

3587
02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:32,600
Speaker 7: That is a bad angle. But yeah, I'm so excited

3588
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 7: for him this year. Come back, rip you going to

3589
02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:38,920
Speaker 7: be a daddy too, Yes, shout out dad.

3590
02:34:38,840 --> 02:34:39,600
Speaker 2: Have a great year.

3591
02:34:39,800 --> 02:34:43,440
Speaker 9: So i'd be I'd be remiss to say, you know,

3592
02:34:43,480 --> 02:34:46,440
Speaker 9: listening to Luke his art, listening to his football knowledge,

3593
02:34:46,480 --> 02:34:49,440
Speaker 9: but your ball knowledge is it's phenomenal.

3594
02:34:49,640 --> 02:34:50,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate.

3595
02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I gotta say I do probably myself on some I

3596
02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Q some good. You might not think I played in

3597
02:34:54,959 --> 02:34:56,840
Speaker 1: the league a long time, but from I was the neck.

3598
02:34:56,920 --> 02:35:01,560
Speaker 7: You mean you thinn nine years.

3599
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:03,920
Speaker 1: I was there for the tenth year. But you know

3600
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:06,480
Speaker 1: the league get a credited season, No, because I had

3601
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:09,960
Speaker 1: a gambling show so they wouldn't let me play.

3602
02:35:10,320 --> 02:35:13,199
Speaker 2: Look, did you ever come across Will Compton film at linebacker?

3603
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Never take anything from his game? Yeah?

3604
02:35:14,959 --> 02:35:19,680
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Yeah, for toughness, instincts, try hard, try hard collar guy.

3605
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it's those plays you break down? I don't

3606
02:35:23,320 --> 02:35:25,480
Speaker 2: know that's that's that's that shirt you have on.

3607
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:29,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's uh like hearing you two talk about

3608
02:35:29,920 --> 02:35:33,560
Speaker 1: plays happening that you don't necessarily make, like being mugged

3609
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:35,400
Speaker 1: up in the eight gaps. They got you in a bunch,

3610
02:35:35,400 --> 02:35:38,280
Speaker 1: they're checking Tulsa, putting you in a toss situation, any

3611
02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:40,000
Speaker 1: type of situational ball awareness.

3612
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:42,680
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's music to my ears.

3613
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:43,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll get you.

3614
02:35:43,800 --> 02:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. We'll get you that year ten.

3615
02:35:45,200 --> 02:35:47,120
Speaker 9: If you want to come pit some race cars.

3616
02:35:47,879 --> 02:35:50,160
Speaker 1: That seems like a different life too, So I have

3617
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:52,160
Speaker 1: to be just you can do it.

3618
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:52,920
Speaker 2: I think you can do it.

3619
02:35:53,320 --> 02:35:53,840
Speaker 6: Let me play.

3620
02:35:53,959 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, they'll let you play.

3621
02:35:55,480 --> 02:35:58,440
Speaker 1: I was down there to sign and rip there to

3622
02:35:58,600 --> 02:36:01,600
Speaker 1: sign and contract can't go through because they're like, let's.

3623
02:36:01,400 --> 02:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Hold up the NFL. Goodell shut it down. Yeah, Goodell

3624
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:04,160
Speaker 2: shut it down.

3625
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:09,000
Speaker 9: Dang, when's good when's Goodell gonna come on the bus?

3626
02:36:09,800 --> 02:36:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know he's got an open invite, does he?

3627
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:12,400
Speaker 2: He can come?

3628
02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:17,080
Speaker 7: Apologize the will for Yeah, scrapping your ten. You had

3629
02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:18,600
Speaker 7: a good You had a good number two.

3630
02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:21,400
Speaker 2: Five to one. It's a great white linebacker.

3631
02:36:21,720 --> 02:36:23,640
Speaker 7: That's Sam Mill's number. That number wasn't available.

3632
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:24,520
Speaker 2: You see that pig right there.

3633
02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Keller Moore seventeen covered we'll covered you in. We were

3634
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:32,600
Speaker 1: in Tampa there and we had somebody dropping low hole

3635
02:36:32,879 --> 02:36:34,160
Speaker 1: because we knew he was going to try to work

3636
02:36:34,200 --> 02:36:37,280
Speaker 1: witting over the middle. Keller Moore airmails it right the

3637
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:37,880
Speaker 1: bread basket.

3638
02:36:37,920 --> 02:36:39,160
Speaker 7: But hey, you know what you had the hardest thing

3639
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:41,800
Speaker 7: about the interception is gotta catch it, buddy.

3640
02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 1: That was that was my first one. And when that

3641
02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:47,200
Speaker 1: ball was in the air, it's something I can make

3642
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:49,560
Speaker 1: the play on it. I was like, you better fucking

3643
02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:53,280
Speaker 1: catch it. I kind of just put the hands out

3644
02:36:53,280 --> 02:36:54,680
Speaker 1: there too, and was just so high.

3645
02:36:56,120 --> 02:37:00,600
Speaker 2: Glo gloves, sticky gloves or those offensive line gloves. What's

3646
02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:02,920
Speaker 2: up those gloves you're wearing right there? Those stickies, Yeah,

3647
02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:06,280
Speaker 2: you don't wear We don't wear offensive and you never know.

3648
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I can never get on board with the Keekley risk

3649
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:10,560
Speaker 1: with the wrist braces though.

3650
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:15,360
Speaker 2: Risks were money. Were you a risk taper?

3651
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:17,560
Speaker 1: It's a little swag here, Yeah, it's a little bit

3652
02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:20,000
Speaker 1: you brought up Jonathan Stewart or earlier too. I did

3653
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 1: put him on skates in our game. Why it's late game.

3654
02:37:24,280 --> 02:37:27,080
Speaker 1: We were getting put him on skates. Oh I murdered

3655
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:29,400
Speaker 1: him coming through the a gap. Yeah, I put him

3656
02:37:29,400 --> 02:37:31,280
Speaker 1: on skates, joked him out, put him on skates, like,

3657
02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:35,120
Speaker 1: put him in the air, put his late in the game.

3658
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:37,240
Speaker 1: We were getting our backs blown out by the Panthers.

3659
02:37:37,240 --> 02:37:39,240
Speaker 1: But your boy, we're still playing for pride at the

3660
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:39,480
Speaker 1: end of.

3661
02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:42,560
Speaker 2: The day when you go out there, yeah, yeah.

3662
02:37:42,400 --> 02:37:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the heart was black in that play, ran right

3663
02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:47,560
Speaker 1: through the B gap, right through the gap and just murdered.

3664
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:49,800
Speaker 9: You gonna want to rematch after listening to this, I

3665
02:37:49,879 --> 02:37:50,640
Speaker 9: know you don't want.

3666
02:37:50,480 --> 02:37:50,880
Speaker 2: To line up.

3667
02:37:51,400 --> 02:37:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't got it anymore, but find that clip.

3668
02:37:54,320 --> 02:37:54,960
Speaker 2: I will show you.

3669
02:37:54,959 --> 02:37:57,199
Speaker 7: Guys, I'm sure we got.

3670
02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:01,800
Speaker 1: Oh but this Hey, look, this has been awesome having

3671
02:38:01,800 --> 02:38:01,959
Speaker 1: me on.

3672
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Thing a long time coming up. This is big for

3673
02:38:04,520 --> 02:38:06,440
Speaker 2: wal Cup. It's for myself as well. Love to see

3674
02:38:06,440 --> 02:38:07,080
Speaker 2: you two together.

3675
02:38:07,520 --> 02:38:09,959
Speaker 1: It's great to get a Hall of Fame white linebacker.

3676
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:12,879
Speaker 1: Just we've had our dude.

3677
02:38:12,879 --> 02:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Would love to get Ray. He's got just pross out.

3678
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, just the linebacker appreciation that we

3679
02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:24,279
Speaker 1: have on this bus.

3680
02:38:24,879 --> 02:38:27,440
Speaker 2: You gotta get on here. There's no better position.

3681
02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had Fred Warner on that dude, du monster, Yes,

3682
02:38:31,480 --> 02:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you should get quon pro monster. Who are some of

3683
02:38:36,120 --> 02:38:38,280
Speaker 1: the guys right now? You just named a couple.

3684
02:38:38,360 --> 02:38:43,160
Speaker 2: Roquan Fred Warner, ah Man, you got me. Levante is

3685
02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:43,720
Speaker 2: still doing it.

3686
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:50,039
Speaker 7: Spot here and Mario Davis has been doing it a

3687
02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:50,400
Speaker 7: long time.

3688
02:38:50,480 --> 02:38:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3689
02:38:52,320 --> 02:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Zach Bond and him going to from transition from on

3690
02:38:56,600 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the ball to off the ball. I feel like it

3691
02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:01,279
Speaker 1: is a is a heady transitions for for Zack.

3692
02:39:01,160 --> 02:39:01,800
Speaker 7: Bad You know who?

3693
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:02,080
Speaker 2: I like?

3694
02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:02,800
Speaker 7: Nick Bolton?

3695
02:39:03,440 --> 02:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Yes, bro, he just resigned with the Chiefs, So I

3696
02:39:06,760 --> 02:39:13,000
Speaker 1: like splain just to Bobby Gap he just signed with.

3697
02:39:16,080 --> 02:39:20,959
Speaker 2: He's a brave guy. Rabes guy would love bottles. Oh yeah,

3698
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:24,040
Speaker 2: we could explain for sure. His his third and one

3699
02:39:24,080 --> 02:39:27,200
Speaker 2: stop on Derrick Henry twenty twenty on the goal line

3700
02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:28,280
Speaker 2: put him on the map.

3701
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:31,240
Speaker 9: How about Cooper de Jeans stick on Henry?

3702
02:39:31,560 --> 02:39:31,879
Speaker 7: Wow?

3703
02:39:32,440 --> 02:39:33,199
Speaker 2: Yeah? Great?

3704
02:39:33,280 --> 02:39:33,480
Speaker 6: Four?

3705
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:39,560
Speaker 2: It was it was, It was nice textbook. I would

3706
02:39:39,959 --> 02:39:42,840
Speaker 2: produce some corners. Are you if you go anywhere else

3707
02:39:42,879 --> 02:39:45,080
Speaker 2: besides Boston College? If you if this is all going

3708
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:46,720
Speaker 2: to end the same exact way, you couldn't go to

3709
02:39:46,760 --> 02:39:47,880
Speaker 2: Boston College, Where would you go?

3710
02:39:47,959 --> 02:39:49,279
Speaker 7: Probably probably big school?

3711
02:39:49,400 --> 02:39:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one would that be?

3712
02:39:50,879 --> 02:39:53,640
Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, would have been fun nor?

3713
02:39:54,920 --> 02:39:57,240
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not I might say Michigan I'm not

3714
02:39:57,240 --> 02:39:58,720
Speaker 7: going to say a high state. Those are the two

3715
02:39:58,720 --> 02:40:02,800
Speaker 7: easy ones. I feel like playing playing linebacker at Penn

3716
02:40:02,840 --> 02:40:07,440
Speaker 7: State with like a like a sick the sick like Cowboys.

3717
02:40:08,400 --> 02:40:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeahs sticking out.

3718
02:40:11,400 --> 02:40:17,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, be plause Leslie LeVar Arrington and the Parsons. They

3719
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:19,039
Speaker 7: got the kid now, Abdul Carter.

3720
02:40:19,760 --> 02:40:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah they had some freaks there. Yeah, you could have

3721
02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:26,160
Speaker 2: wore black shirt? Yeah is that? How is that helmet?

3722
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:30,160
Speaker 2: The game? News back there? No? Is that Nebraska? Nice one.

3723
02:40:30,280 --> 02:40:35,400
Speaker 1: Bras just wraps the classic, the classic game. Luke knows

3724
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:38,560
Speaker 1: we stopped the mudhole in the ass for what was it, the.

3725
02:40:42,720 --> 02:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Stripe Bowl? Stripe Bowl.

3726
02:40:45,760 --> 02:40:50,080
Speaker 7: He's waited the whole podcast to say, yeah, just wait bowl.

3727
02:40:52,320 --> 02:40:53,680
Speaker 2: And he tried to pretend like he didn't know the

3728
02:40:53,720 --> 02:40:57,560
Speaker 2: name of it. They said that they put that on

3729
02:40:57,600 --> 02:40:58,280
Speaker 2: the board up there.

3730
02:40:58,480 --> 02:41:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I waited to uh, I waited till we

3731
02:41:02,680 --> 02:41:05,119
Speaker 1: were up to hit the group chat to talk ship.

3732
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:05,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all right.

3733
02:41:07,080 --> 02:41:09,360
Speaker 2: Well, you like Bill O'Brien like him a lot. Yeah,

3734
02:41:09,400 --> 02:41:10,240
Speaker 2: A big fan of him.

3735
02:41:10,440 --> 02:41:14,879
Speaker 7: Just he is Boston College football, tough, physical run of football.

3736
02:41:15,560 --> 02:41:18,160
Speaker 7: He's greatly He did a great job last year. I'm

3737
02:41:18,160 --> 02:41:20,119
Speaker 7: excited for for this year for him, so.

3738
02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:24,960
Speaker 1: All right, okay, well yeah I see we got another

3739
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:27,320
Speaker 1: standing round of applause for hats all.

3740
02:41:27,760 --> 02:41:36,320
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, thanks, thanks for turning to Eric, and yeah

3741
02:41:36,360 --> 02:41:36,920
Speaker 7: we're waiting for