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Speaker 2: Everybody's here, including the Great Fritzy. Coming up, we'll check
Speaker 2: in with the Chargers. How's morale there? Who has it
Speaker 2: better than we do? Nobody? If you're the Chargers. Jim
Speaker 2: Harbaugh coming to town. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst, and
Speaker 2: also he is a color analyst for the Chargers on radio.
Speaker 2: He'll join us coming up. Also, the Alabama head coach
Speaker 2: Calin de Bor will join us a little bit later
Speaker 2: on this hour, and the Lions running back Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 2: will stop by as the Lions get ready to go
Speaker 2: to San Francisco eight seven to seven three DP show
Speaker 2: operator the what are we calling Tyler the Minister of
Speaker 2: Culture here? He's our Minister of culture, Prime Minister Prime, Well, no, no,
Speaker 2: just minister, this minister. He has to aspire to something.
Speaker 2: Tyler's nickname, just become prime. We say good morning. If
Speaker 2: you're watching on Peacock and Tyler's standing by to take
Speaker 2: your phone calls. Poll question Seaton. We got two of.
Speaker 3: Them up there right now, Dan, what's more likely to happen?
Speaker 3: In the next five years Chargers when Super Bowl or
Speaker 3: Michigan stripped of the title. Right now, sixty three percent
Speaker 3: of the audience have Michigan.
Speaker 2: Oh well, maybe they just don't have confidence in the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Fair yeah, fair, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And we also put up there who is happier today,
Speaker 3: Dean Spanos or Ryan Day running away with it? Not
Speaker 3: even close? Seventy four percent of the vote. Ryan Day
Speaker 3: should be thrilled today.
Speaker 2: What are we gonna go with with our two? You're
Speaker 2: gonna keep those up? That's so funny to me.
Speaker 3: Well, we could put out Todd had this one, which
Speaker 3: is interesting because I don't know that you're going to
Speaker 3: agree with the premise necessarily because I think we've you
Speaker 3: said that, maybe we've tempered expectations for Justin Herbert and
Speaker 3: the Chargers. But okay, will Justin Herbert win an NFL
Speaker 3: MVP under the tutelage of Jim Harbaugh, the tutelage.
Speaker 4: I'm going to say, yes, you said he will? Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that, Okay, Yeah, he will win an
Speaker 4: NFL MVP. Yeah, Okay, I'm going to say that.
Speaker 2: Okayte By the way, the Chargers Super Bowl odds are
Speaker 2: the same as the Falcons. Today, the Jets have better
Speaker 2: Super Bowl odds than the Chargers, but in fairness to
Speaker 2: Harbaugh getting out there, it's going to take more than
Speaker 2: one season. Plus you're still in a competitive conference with
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. That was another thing. I mean, Sandy
Speaker 2: or Sandy. The Chargers gave Jim everything that he wanted
Speaker 2: and because Atlanta was going to have a second interview
Speaker 2: with him, going through the NFC to go back to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl would be a little bit easier, you
Speaker 2: would think. Because you're worried about the Niners, you may
Speaker 2: not be as worried about the Cowboys or the Eagles.
Speaker 2: And maybe some of these other teams aren't ready to
Speaker 2: you know, Tampa Bay Reel. Is there an outwier there?
Speaker 2: Where's in the AFC? If I just look at the quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: I got Lamar Jackson, I got Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is
Speaker 2: in my division, Joe Burrow, I'm going to have to
Speaker 2: go through him as well. So that's just three there.
Speaker 5: And C. J.
Speaker 2: Stroud is in the AFC and he of course surprised
Speaker 2: a lot of people this year. But all right, we
Speaker 2: will settle on a pull question for hour two, We
Speaker 2: make way for Daniel Jeremiah, Chargers radio analyst and network
Speaker 2: analyst at NFL. Daniel, your reaction when the Chargers got
Speaker 2: Jim Harball was what was excitement?
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think he brings excitement everywhere he goes.
Speaker 5: He's won everywhere he's gone. I was in the driveway
Speaker 5: playing horse with my son, and my phone started blowing
Speaker 5: up from all my friends that I grew up with
Speaker 5: that are lifelong Charger fans. I'll tell you my dad,
Speaker 5: who grew up in Ohio and has been out here
Speaker 5: in southern California for forty years, has been a huge
Speaker 5: Charger fan. He was very excited on multiple levels that
Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh got that job. So he was He's been
Speaker 5: a lifelong Buckeye fan and a long time Charger fan,
Speaker 5: so he literally had the best day yesterday.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the team getting with Jim Harba.
Speaker 5: Well, you're getting a couple of things. Obviously, you're getting identity.
Speaker 5: His every team he coaches wherever he's been has been
Speaker 5: a tough, physical, line of scrimmage team, so you're getting toughness.
Speaker 5: The other thing that you're getting is you're getting somebody
Speaker 5: who's gonna get it up and running and is going
Speaker 5: to establish accountability.
Speaker 6: Early.
Speaker 5: I remember going up there to Stanford. I was scouting
Speaker 5: at that time when he got that job, and I
Speaker 5: remember in that press conference, I think somebody asked a
Speaker 5: question about USC and he wasn't. There was no deference there,
Speaker 5: there was no oh, you know, hey, we're just gonna
Speaker 5: build our He was like, we're ready to go against
Speaker 5: them right now. And all of us scouts when we
Speaker 5: laughed Dan, We're like, this is he's crazy, Like does
Speaker 5: he know how bad Stanford is? Does he know how
Speaker 5: hard it is to get players in the stand Like
Speaker 5: we've heard this for years, for decades, And the guy
Speaker 5: went in there and beat him the first year, what
Speaker 5: like forty point Underdogs like it. You know, people can
Speaker 5: think of whatever they want. He brings energy, enthusiasm, and
Speaker 5: the guy wins.
Speaker 2: What is Harball getting with this roster with the Chargers?
Speaker 2: What's he get him himself into.
Speaker 5: Well, look, it's not a perfect roster, but you've got
Speaker 5: a great quarterback, You've got a you know, a franchise
Speaker 5: left tackle, You've got two pass rushers that you know,
Speaker 5: you got to keep them healthy. They got to figure
Speaker 5: out what they want to do salary cap wise, Therewin James'
Speaker 5: special player Keenan Allen's still an elite receiver. Like, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of pieces in place there. I would imagine
Speaker 5: he's gonna want to come in there and really kind
Speaker 5: of you know, put more resources into the offense and
Speaker 5: defensive line. H they're gonna need tight ends. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's not a one year fix with some of the
Speaker 5: holes there to get it to where he wants it
Speaker 5: to be. But I you know, look, I think Justin
Speaker 5: Herbert is going to have less on his plate, which
Speaker 5: is going to be a good thing. You know, when
Speaker 5: he had Andrew Locke, how tempting would it have been
Speaker 5: from most play callers that say we're gonna throw it
Speaker 5: fifty times a game, this is the best quarterback in
Speaker 5: college football and it's not even close. And he didn't
Speaker 5: do that. He ran the ball. They were physical, and
Speaker 5: they asked Andrew Luck to kind of make those handful
Speaker 5: of plays. So I don't know if you're talking about
Speaker 5: the MVP before I came on, You don't know if
Speaker 5: Herbert's gonna throw over five thousand yards at Jim Harball.
Speaker 5: But he's gonna be very efficient and he's gonna win.
Speaker 5: That's you know. I don't know how that gets you
Speaker 5: to MVPs, but it's gonna get you a lot more
Speaker 5: success in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to be the MVP comes from the
Speaker 2: first seed or the second seed in your conference. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have to be the number one or number two seed.
Speaker 2: And if they get there and Herbert's your quarterback and
Speaker 2: plays well, because I don't know if Jim treats Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert the way did JJ McCarthy at Michigan. Because here's McCarthy,
Speaker 2: I expected to be a first round draft pick, and
Speaker 2: you watch that Penn State game. They didn't even ask
Speaker 2: him to do anything. They just ran the football the
Speaker 2: whole time. Can you can you is the NFL now
Speaker 2: for Jim? Is it the same when Jim was at
Speaker 2: San Francisco? Can you still have the same kind of philosophy?
Speaker 5: I still think you can play the way he played
Speaker 5: at San Francisco provided you had what they had. I
Speaker 5: mean that that offensive line, defensive line, we're outstanding with
Speaker 5: San Francisco. That afforded him the luxury to play that way.
Speaker 5: Very few teams have that. I mean, I was watching
Speaker 5: the Niners game last week, and you know, I thought, man,
Speaker 5: they you know, I know that they ended up winning
Speaker 5: that game and pretty ended up making plays late. But
Speaker 5: I'm watching that game. You know, you can just turn
Speaker 5: around and give it to McCaffrey and win this particular
Speaker 5: football game. And you know they didn't. They didn't choose
Speaker 5: to do that, but I still think they had a
Speaker 5: team that could do that. I think that's the goal
Speaker 5: that they'll want to get to that point.
Speaker 2: Here and also being relevant in Los Angeles because even
Speaker 2: though the Chargers had a potential marquee quarterback, great uniforms there,
Speaker 2: you know, down the depth chart as far as must
Speaker 2: see TV or even must attend, Harball is a reason.
Speaker 2: Like now, all of a sudden, you know there's something there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's enough right now, but Harbor
Speaker 2: all having Harball's philosophy or culture there. I wonder what
Speaker 2: that does to the LA market.
Speaker 5: I think it'll bring enthusiasm. It's a winner's town. I mean,
Speaker 5: you've got to win to draw any attention, and it
Speaker 5: helps to have some personality. And you know, when you
Speaker 5: go when you look at the Rams and Sean McVay
Speaker 5: and what he's brought, I mean, he's an incredible, incredible
Speaker 5: coach who's brought consistent winning and he has a personality
Speaker 5: about him too. Jim's different, but I think you get
Speaker 5: a lot of those same perks of guy who's going
Speaker 5: to come in and when he's gonna stand out because
Speaker 5: of who he is and how he handles himself, which
Speaker 5: I you know, I think is a chance to make
Speaker 5: a dent in the market. It's you know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of teams there. You're competing with a lot of
Speaker 5: different teams for eyeballs, but there's also a heck of
Speaker 5: a lot of people there, so I think there is
Speaker 5: there is room to see this thing grow as it
Speaker 5: goes forward.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst also host
Speaker 2: of Moved the Sticks podcast with Rhet Lewis and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2: Have available wherever you get your podcast. Who was the
Speaker 2: backup plan if Harball didn't go, I.
Speaker 5: Would have been if it wasn't hard off it would
Speaker 5: you know, I would expect Rabel would have been the choice.
Speaker 5: It just feels like they needed to go get an
Speaker 5: established kind of brand.
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll would have been on their radar.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think look as a coach, absolutely
Speaker 5: in the in the area, it would have been a
Speaker 5: very popular move. I don't know where, you know, with
Speaker 5: the difference in age between him and Rabel. I know
Speaker 5: Vrabel hasn't had the success that Pete's had, but he
Speaker 5: still has. You know, he comes with with a culture
Speaker 5: and an identity and has won a lot of games.
Speaker 5: I think that would have been My guess is what
Speaker 5: the fallback play would have been.
Speaker 2: When do you start breaking down quarterbacks for the NFL Draft?
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, Dan, we're there, man, We're yeah, we're
Speaker 5: at that point. So I've been I've been doing a lot.
Speaker 5: I actually watched a lot of JJ McCarthy yesterday. So
Speaker 5: those top five guys, I'm pretty pretty versed.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many quarterbacks do you think will be taken
Speaker 2: in the first draft.
Speaker 5: I would say three are going to go in the
Speaker 5: first three picks. I would be shocked if we don't
Speaker 5: go quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, and then after that, I think
Speaker 5: you're going to get a guaranteed fourth. However, for people
Speaker 5: sort that out, I think there's six candidates. I'll say
Speaker 5: there'll be five, and one of them will go to
Speaker 5: the second.
Speaker 2: Okay, Michael Pennix might slip here. He would he would
Speaker 2: be he would be the sixth for me.
Speaker 5: You know, when you when you when you put those
Speaker 5: guys all together, I think there's a some the two
Speaker 5: interesting debates to me in this, I think most teams
Speaker 5: will have Caleb just the talent is so is so
Speaker 5: off the charts, they will have him.
Speaker 2: Won.
Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be a real good debate between
Speaker 5: Drake May and Jayden Daniels that's going to take us
Speaker 5: all the way to the draft. And I think that
Speaker 5: the next tier between j. J. McCarthy and Bonnicks, I
Speaker 5: think is going to be a really interesting debate with
Speaker 5: all the differences in age, but the experience in different
Speaker 5: play styles, what was put on their play There's are
Speaker 5: gonna be fascinating discussions.
Speaker 2: If the Bears called you, what would you say.
Speaker 5: We're taking Caleb Williams. Okay, look, Dan, we'll answer this question.
Speaker 5: Justin fields. Would you argue is the fourth best quarterback
Speaker 5: in that division? Yeah, assuming Kirk Cousins came back, he's
Speaker 5: the fourth quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So my thing is, look, there's no there's no such
Speaker 5: thing as a draft pick without risk. But I would
Speaker 5: say if you took Caleb Williams, you got to develop
Speaker 5: and put the pieces in place and make it happen.
Speaker 5: I would say, you go from having the fourth best
Speaker 5: quarterback in the division to having the most talented quarterback
Speaker 5: in the division. You've got to put it all together.
Speaker 5: It's not a finished product there. There's development, But in
Speaker 5: terms of talent, Caleb Williams is more talented than any
Speaker 5: of those other three quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I'm curio about curious about Justin Fields that if I'm
Speaker 2: the Falcons, it's not gonna cost me much. Would that
Speaker 2: be somebody that But I don't know if Belichick takes
Speaker 2: that job or whoever takes that job. But where where's
Speaker 2: Justin Field's gonna end up here?
Speaker 5: Well, I think that'd be my number one spot, Atlanta.
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I think it is. And I always
Speaker 5: I need to be careful to make sure that I
Speaker 5: don't forget to say this too. Justin's one of the
Speaker 5: thirty two best quarterbacks in the NFL right now. He's
Speaker 5: a starting caliber quarterback who's gotten better throughout his career.
Speaker 5: But I think when you stack him up in that division.
Speaker 2: But that didn't sound like a great compliment there Daniel.
Speaker 5: Well, no, I just I think that people say that
Speaker 5: you either are the starting quarterback of the Bears or
Speaker 5: you're gonna be you know, you're gonna get traded for
Speaker 5: a fifth round pick and go be a backup somewhere else.
Speaker 5: Like there's he there's teams that don't have a quarterback
Speaker 5: as good as justin Fields and more than one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think Atlanta would be a great spot for him.
Speaker 2: I think that young team and just let him go.
Speaker 2: You know, you're playing and have your games indoors on turf,
Speaker 2: and let's just go. Let's because I thought if Arizona
Speaker 2: moved on from Kyler Murray, that would have been another place.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to take advantage of what I
Speaker 2: have Bjon Robinson. You've got a couple of good receivers there,
Speaker 2: and and taking over a team that has underachieved, I
Speaker 2: think if but I don't even know if they're going
Speaker 2: to give it to Belichick.
Speaker 5: Well, just just try to imagine, Dan, Just just close
Speaker 5: your eyes and imagine you had an ultra athletic quarterback
Speaker 5: in Atlanta. I mean, what could that look like? We've
Speaker 5: never seen it before, you know, just let's your imagination.
Speaker 2: Hey, Yeah, a right hand, a right handed athletic quarterback
Speaker 2: and just looking in the mirror, just looking in the mirror.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, thanks for joining us. Appreciate you. Dan.
Speaker 2: All right, that's Daniel Jeremiah ad afhone network analyst and
Speaker 2: he works for the Chargers on radio as well. He's
Speaker 2: already done his deep dive on his quarterbacks there, you know,
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. And yeah, as I said yesterday, Jayden Daniels,
Speaker 2: you know, he's starting to move up, starting to move up,
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be an interesting conversation
Speaker 2: as we get closer to the draft. Dave in Arkansas, Hi, Dave,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: They call me it for Dave? And I had to
Speaker 7: have that that male rear procedure that nobody wants, but
Speaker 7: I figure out let the pros do it, so went
Speaker 7: up to crap you. I've got to say they've done
Speaker 7: a great job with the town. They really know how
Speaker 7: to decorate. Everything is this lovely shade of brown. They're
Speaker 7: brown everywhere. Uh, there are a few reds and greens,
Speaker 7: but that's skid row. You don't want to you don't
Speaker 7: want to deal.
Speaker 2: With that, alright, come on, Dave, come on, the only.
Speaker 7: Part I couldn't figure out is that there were everything
Speaker 7: was decorated with little pieces of corn everywhere.
Speaker 2: I thank you, Jave, Dave, Dave, the video you sent
Speaker 2: in of pie of the Face was wonderful. There's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with sneaky, subtle humor, subtlety. Appreciate it. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: like that sneaky. That wasn't sneaky or something.
Speaker 3: Although to be fair, there's not very much subtle about Pittsburgh, Dave.
Speaker 8: It's it's true.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's a right in your face kind of guy.
Speaker 2: But Crappensburg State and you know, one of the majors
Speaker 2: we have is proctology, so uh you know that that
Speaker 2: is if you get your degree, you know you're you're
Speaker 2: in a special class there. All right, let's clean up
Speaker 2: the mess here because we have the Alabama coach Kaelin
Speaker 2: de Bore set to join us, and we'll be on
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Speaker 2: I think it'll be two weeks tomorrow that Calin de
Speaker 2: Boor took over Alabama for Nick Saban coach, of course,
Speaker 2: led Washington to the National title game. Now the new
Speaker 2: head coach at Alabama, Well, you've been there almost two weeks, so, coach,
Speaker 2: how's your accents? It changed?
Speaker 6: So it hasn't still got that still got that Midwest
Speaker 6: kind of feel to it, I think, and it probably
Speaker 6: always will so. But it's great. Beyond your show, Dan,
Speaker 6: appreciate having me on.
Speaker 2: Where are you right now?
Speaker 6: We're in Alabama just making our rounds and on the
Speaker 6: recruiting trail, so it's going great. When you said two weeks,
Speaker 6: kind of hit me about how fast time's been flying by.
Speaker 6: So we're making the most of every minute. The coaching
Speaker 6: staff's coming together nice, and you know, just really proud
Speaker 6: of how far we've come in a short a lot
Speaker 6: of time. All Right.
Speaker 2: The number one thing that you had to do soon
Speaker 2: as you hit ground in Tuscaloosa was.
Speaker 6: What well you want you you know, meeting with the
Speaker 6: team and really trying to get in front of them
Speaker 6: and just you know the craziness of college athletics and
Speaker 6: in particular the portal and just trying to make sure
Speaker 6: that they got to feel for who I was, you know,
Speaker 6: in the moment as soon as I landed, got in
Speaker 6: front of them, but the next you know, four days
Speaker 6: or so, trying to meet with them individually in groups.
Speaker 6: You're trying to build the staff at the same time
Speaker 6: and showing them the vision and feeling the personalities of
Speaker 6: those that will be coming into the program to coach them.
Speaker 6: So that balance right there, you know, kept me busy
Speaker 6: for those you know, four or five days. And now
Speaker 6: it's kind of reaching out and getting to the recruiting.
Speaker 6: You know that's been done, whether it's guys that have signed,
Speaker 6: and just trying to continue to impress on them their
Speaker 6: importance in our program and I'm excited to have them
Speaker 6: join us, and of course the classes in the future,
Speaker 6: the twenty five and twenty six is and so forth.
Speaker 2: Well, also, were you recruiting re recruiting some of your
Speaker 2: players who were going to go in the portal or
Speaker 2: at least talking about going into the portal?
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, you know, and that's that's that's a big
Speaker 6: part of it. I think that's probably some of the
Speaker 6: best recruiting our coaches have done so far, as is
Speaker 6: really recruiting our own roster, and uh, you know, that's uh,
Speaker 6: it's crazy to say that, but you know, I think
Speaker 6: that's the case no matter what. But I think it's
Speaker 6: even even at another level now just with everything. So
Speaker 6: I'm really proud of the way our guys. When I
Speaker 6: say our guys, our team have been receptive and embraced
Speaker 6: our coaching staff and myself. I think we've done a
Speaker 6: great job of retaining the cores, the nucleus of who's
Speaker 6: it in this program. There's so many great players and
Speaker 6: they want this place to be great, and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: certainly taught them by surprise and you know, it hits
Speaker 6: it pretty hard when you know, Coach Saban retired and
Speaker 6: that's a big piece of why they came here. But
Speaker 6: they also came here to wear or wear those Alabama colors,
Speaker 6: and you know they've really again been receptive to to
Speaker 6: myself and holding it together and wanting to carry on
Speaker 6: the legacy of this great place.
Speaker 2: Do you get Coach Saban's office?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do, I do. It's it's I think about
Speaker 6: all the people that have been in there.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, he cleaned it out, So did he leave
Speaker 2: anything for you in his office?
Speaker 6: I haven't found it, found it yet. There's probably a
Speaker 6: few things that you know, he'll he'll we'll talk about
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, articles and things like that. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: he's a he's he's going to be certainly around the
Speaker 6: campus and uh, you know, excited to have him around.
Speaker 6: So much institutional knowledge and just everything that I can
Speaker 6: drop on. I've said it many times, I'll say it again.
Speaker 6: Be pretty foolish not to use him as a great resource.
Speaker 6: I know he wants this program to continue to be
Speaker 6: great in the future.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you have that moment where you sat there
Speaker 2: in his chair at his desk in his office by
Speaker 2: yourself and just said to yourself, I'm the head coach
Speaker 2: at Alabama.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's certainly a special place. And uh Coach
Speaker 6: Sabans made it that way, you know, And you know,
Speaker 6: I think that piece of it was intriguing and exciting
Speaker 6: to me when going through this process of looking to
Speaker 6: be in the head coach. And you know, he's made
Speaker 6: it an amazing job, as have others that come before
Speaker 6: him too, and so yeah, the legacy leaves you can't
Speaker 6: help but notice it, and you know, carrying on that tradition,
Speaker 6: that's that's my goal.
Speaker 2: When did you hear or your people here from Michigan
Speaker 2: prior to you taking this job? Did Michigan ever reach
Speaker 2: out to you about the possibility of replacing Jim Harbaugh?
Speaker 6: No, no, this was this was all about Alabama here,
Speaker 6: and no.
Speaker 2: This is prior to you taking that that I know
Speaker 2: Michigan had a wish list there of in case Jim
Speaker 2: would was actually going to go back to the NFL.
Speaker 2: So i've and your name was on that from what
Speaker 2: I was told, So I was curious if they ever
Speaker 2: reached out to you prior to you taking Alabama.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that would never have been anything that have
Speaker 6: been aware of. I think, you know, when you think
Speaker 6: about the timeline of how quickly things happened from a
Speaker 6: National championship game and you know two days later coach
Speaker 6: Saban retiring in the next day an interview and then
Speaker 6: hired them. There just wasn't a lot of time for anything.
Speaker 6: So you know, it's been a whirlwind. And excited to
Speaker 6: be the head coach at Alabama.
Speaker 2: What did you do with your Washington gear?
Speaker 6: I don't know yet. I haven't been back since I
Speaker 6: took the job, so it's it's probably sitting there in
Speaker 6: the closet somewhere, but you know, we'll get back there
Speaker 6: and you know, get the family moved down here and strange.
Speaker 2: Though, in that strange coach that you just you get up,
Speaker 2: you gotta go, You got to hit the ground running,
Speaker 2: and your family's still back there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It happens fast, and that's probably the
Speaker 6: unfortunate thing of all this is how quickly it happens.
Speaker 6: Probably spent literally five to ten minutes packing the bag
Speaker 6: and forgot a lot of things and just enough to
Speaker 6: get through a few days. And actually that carries them
Speaker 6: on through a few weeks. But you know, it's just
Speaker 6: there's no great way to be able to you know,
Speaker 6: talk to the fan base and your team. You know,
Speaker 6: I'll get to that. Here's things settle down and make
Speaker 6: sure everyone truly understands how much I appreciate them. You know,
Speaker 6: you're the head coach. You invest a lot of time
Speaker 6: into it as well as well as people investing in you.
Speaker 6: And uh, you know, certainly that place has got a
Speaker 6: special place in my heart and always will. But you know,
Speaker 6: those players there are so special and again happens fast.
Speaker 6: It's the unfortunate part of just the business and how
Speaker 6: things go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's it's really the crappy side of
Speaker 2: all of this that you know, you you get that
Speaker 2: team to a national title game, those kids and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, do you even did did
Speaker 2: you get to say goodbye to anybody?
Speaker 6: I got a chance to be in front of the team,
Speaker 6: and even not all of those guys, just with how
Speaker 6: quickly it happens. Uh, you know, we're able to get
Speaker 6: the message and be there, and that's again a very
Speaker 6: unfortunate you know, not the way you want to have
Speaker 6: it have it happen, but within you know, ten minutes.
Speaker 6: You're you're sending out a message to the team after
Speaker 6: accepted the job, and you know, I was on campus
Speaker 6: and met with the staff briefly and tell them how
Speaker 6: much I appreciate him, and met with the team and
Speaker 6: literally had to you know, fly down here and get
Speaker 6: to work and meet the team and all the things
Speaker 6: that we talked about earlier about you know, recruiting the
Speaker 6: roster and thinking about you know, getting this organization rolling
Speaker 6: as quick as we can.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck on the recruiting trail. Thanks for joining us, coach.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for always having me on. Dan
Speaker 6: appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Hey, Lin Demore, he's the Alabama head coach. Hey, you
Speaker 2: take the job. Next thing, you know, it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: can I get together with you? Get on a private
Speaker 2: plane and you're going hit the ground running. But you
Speaker 2: have to have that moment where you sit down. You're
Speaker 2: in Nick Saban's office, now your office, and you sit
Speaker 2: in the chair, nobody else is there. You close the door,
Speaker 2: you just go I'm I'm replacing Nick Saban. I'm Alabama's
Speaker 2: head coach. Good stuff, all right? Some phone calls here
Speaker 2: eight seven seven three DP show Nate in Ohio joins
Speaker 2: us Hi, Nate, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey Dan, I've got three mock headlines for Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 10: going to LA.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so are you right?
Speaker 6: Are they?
Speaker 2: Are they going to be better than Fritzy's Nuts and Bolts?
Speaker 10: I'll let you decide, Okay, I think so, Okay, all right,
Speaker 10: here we go. All right, first one is Harbaugh revolts
Speaker 10: former charters, QB returns as head coach, revolts Shock and Awe,
Speaker 10: Harbaugh electrified Chargers as their current coach.
Speaker 2: Okay, current, I got that current kind of kind of
Speaker 2: clumsy there, Okay, give me another one here, it is
Speaker 2: the best one.
Speaker 10: Harball bolts for LA, leaves Michigan, Michigan wondering Watt's next?
Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's Nate like Watts, like you know,
Speaker 2: killo Watts stunt. I got that whole electrical the current, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Worked all the electricity thing in. I'm gonna go nuts
Speaker 8: and bolts.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. And you know, I'm sure that question
Speaker 2: about was he contacted by Michigan came out of left field.
Speaker 2: But I was told Michigan had to prepare a list
Speaker 2: of candidates in case Jim left. Jim was not making
Speaker 2: it a secret that he was going to entertain the NFL.
Speaker 2: He has in the two previous seasons, and there was
Speaker 2: a list and I think there were seven names, and
Speaker 2: Klin de Boor was one of those. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: obvious that you would at least look at have a
Speaker 2: wish list just in case. And I think that's why
Speaker 2: I didn't know if they reached out to him at
Speaker 2: any point during all of this. But he's right playing
Speaker 2: the National title game two days later, you're Alabama's head coach.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't that time period that I was told about.
Speaker 2: It was prior to that, leading up to the National
Speaker 2: Title game. If Jim did leave, you just didn't want
Speaker 2: unless they knew that Sharon Moore was going to be
Speaker 2: the head coach and they had their fallback plan. But
Speaker 2: I think having options made sense in a situation like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paulie, I was thinking about this with Harvard just
Speaker 8: going college football is the only loser here. Maybe the
Speaker 8: fans this feels like we've lost. College football has lost
Speaker 8: Nick Saban and Jim Harbaugh in the past three weeks.
Speaker 8: Those are the two faces of the sport in college football.
Speaker 8: I don't think there's even a debate about it. Kurry
Speaker 8: Smart's famous and successful, but he's not entrenched in American culture.
Speaker 8: It reminds me like remember a decade ago, or maybe
Speaker 8: a little longer, when like Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Dale,
Speaker 8: our junior all left NASCAR in like a three year
Speaker 8: window and there's like the three faces of the sport
Speaker 8: left and they're trying to find people to replace them.
Speaker 2: Well, you also had that in college basketball, Pat Summit
Speaker 2: who passed away, Mike Skryzewski, Jim Beheim. You know, these
Speaker 2: are three of the winningst coaches in you know, college
Speaker 2: basketball history, and college basketball is known for its coaches
Speaker 2: because that's the constant. And with college football as well,
Speaker 2: it's the coaches who are mostly constant because the players,
Speaker 2: you know, are transferring, you know, maybe not staying at
Speaker 2: a place you know, more than one or two years. Uh,
Speaker 2: Chris and Indy. Hey, Chris, thanks for holding what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Hey, Dan, thanks for taking a call. Hey, I'm
Speaker 11: looking forward to the games this weekend. But I've never
Speaker 11: wanted one quarterback to win so badly and want to
Speaker 11: lose so badly, just with the fascination with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 11: I'm I try to understand it. You know, he said,
Speaker 11: have you ever had an NFL MVP with I mean,
Speaker 11: I don't want to say pedestrian stats, but just you know,
Speaker 11: I know it's been a down year, but I mean
Speaker 11: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson were drafted in the same class,
Speaker 11: and if you look at the stats, I mean, it's
Speaker 11: not even close. And the year that Josh Allen had
Speaker 11: this year, I'm just I try to understand that Josh
Speaker 11: Allen hate. And then I tried to understand that Lamar
Speaker 11: Jackson love. I just I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Well that Lamar Jackson. They were the number one seed
Speaker 2: and in the last decade, your MVP has come from
Speaker 2: a team that is either the one or two seats,
Speaker 2: And I think you got to give credit to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of questions about Lamar Jackson. Did
Speaker 2: anybody want to trade for him? Where the Raven's going
Speaker 2: to bring him back? And it's not always about stats.
Speaker 2: And you know, with Josh Allen, it's not that I
Speaker 2: don't think there's Josh Allen hate. There might be a
Speaker 2: little too much Josh Allen love for people. I think
Speaker 2: some of these analysts who play or like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: why are you're propping that guy up? He hadn't done anything.
Speaker 2: Lamar's at least won two MVPs. Mahomes best quarterback of
Speaker 2: his era and one of the best quarterbacks of all time.
Speaker 2: I think that might be the negativity is there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people who are carrying Josh Allen's water, not
Speaker 2: that he needs to, but it felt like there was
Speaker 2: this outpouring of people wanting to put Josh Allen on
Speaker 2: the same level with Patrick Mahomes, and he's not there. Obviously.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Chiefs have scored on their opening
Speaker 2: drive in seven consecutive playoff games, the longest streak in
Speaker 2: the last thirty years, So something to keep an eye
Speaker 2: out that first drive that they have against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: We also have Lamar Jackson talking about his matchup with
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 12: I don't like competing against him at all, but yeah,
Speaker 12: I mean, he's a great quarterback, definitely, hall of famer
Speaker 12: is not even it's a little brain. He's definitely a
Speaker 12: Hall of Famer. He was just two greats up and
Speaker 12: coming greats just going toe to toe, you know, like
Speaker 12: a heavyweight fight.
Speaker 2: Like they said, No, I don't like going up against him.
Speaker 2: You usually get quarterbacks saying, oh, I love the challenge
Speaker 2: and you know, going against the best, actually going up
Speaker 2: against their defense. Yes, really not, Yes, he's not playing defense.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 8: I saw a couple of NFL shows they took this
Speaker 8: clip and they made it into a question. They said,
Speaker 8: is Patch Holmes football tomorrow? And hypothetical is he a
Speaker 8: Hall of Famer already? And it wasn't even really a topic,
Speaker 8: Like they went around the room they said, yeah, sure,
Speaker 8: almost almost first ballot at twenty eight years old. We
Speaker 8: talk about how complimentary.
Speaker 2: The greatest start of an NFL career.
Speaker 8: It is because Brady had three before he's twenty eight,
Speaker 8: but Mahomes has had much bigger numbers to twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Kansas City has relied more on Mahomes
Speaker 2: than the Patriots relied on Tom Brady when they first
Speaker 2: started out.
Speaker 8: Mahomes is at age twenty eight, six Pro Bowls, two
Speaker 8: times All Pro, two times Super Bowl Champ, two time MVP,
Speaker 8: two times Super Bowl MVP, and then I can give
Speaker 8: you a dozen more nice secondary world.
Speaker 2: Okay, but if he stops playing. If he stops playing
Speaker 2: due to an injury, he'll get extra credit because we
Speaker 2: did that with Terrell Davis. We did that with Gail Sayirs,
Speaker 2: We've done that. Now if he all of a sudden
Speaker 2: did what Barry Sanders did and just said, see you,
Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm going to go on tour with Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift and go to all of her concerts or something.
Speaker 2: He's still a Hall of Famer. Yeah, absolutely. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a debate and it's like, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 13: Yes, Ma, it's crazy because he's not going to make
Speaker 13: the college Football Hall of Fame, but he's gonna make
Speaker 13: the Profoball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, Paul, he brought up
Speaker 2: this idea, and it has to do with the college
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame and the basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Also we have college football Hall of Fame and you
Speaker 2: have the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We'll explain all
Speaker 2: of this when we return after this.
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Speaker 2: Came in this morning as I do every day Monday
Speaker 2: through Friday, and set a load to everybody. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I see Paulie. Paulie had a question about
Speaker 2: the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame also the Pro Football
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and should we combine college with the
Speaker 2: pros and have one big hall of fame for all
Speaker 2: the sports? And I went, okay, let me take off
Speaker 2: my coat and sit down. We can discuss this a
Speaker 2: little bit. And I said, I'll carve out some time
Speaker 2: for this, so state your case so the audience can
Speaker 2: play along with it.
Speaker 8: It's almost a question more than a case. I was
Speaker 8: thinking about Jim Harbot today and I was thinking, now
Speaker 8: he's in the pros again, is he going to go
Speaker 8: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: No, but he will probably go into the college football
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame, right with one title.
Speaker 2: And what he did at Stanford, yeah, San Diego. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But even there, your well, they're probably more lenient with
Speaker 2: college Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: But even there, you pause. So it's possible Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 8: could go down with his coaching career going to neither
Speaker 8: halls of fame. So now he were doing the same thing,
Speaker 8: and he were a basketball coach. Let's say he won
Speaker 8: a national title and also was a very good pro coach.
Speaker 8: He would probably go into the Naismith Basketball Hall of
Speaker 8: Fame for you know, abilities in pro and college. Should
Speaker 8: the NFL and College Football Hall of Fame combine into
Speaker 8: a football Hall of Fame to open up the whole
Speaker 8: concept like basketball? Is that done?
Speaker 2: The NFL Hall of Fame brings about a lot of conversation.
Speaker 2: Who's up for the Basketball Hall of Fame this year?
Speaker 2: And that will tell you that it's not that important.
Speaker 2: It's an important honor, but you can be Christian Laitner
Speaker 2: is one of the ten greatest college players of all time.
Speaker 2: He would go into the basketball Hall of Fame. He's
Speaker 2: in the college basketball Hall of Fame. I don't know
Speaker 2: why he's not in the Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: And it is weird that basketball has both the at
Speaker 8: Bat Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame, which would be college
Speaker 8: or pro, and then a separate college basketball Hall of
Speaker 8: Fame which most people don't talk about, or NOVA.
Speaker 2: And even the college Football Hall of Fame. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think Tim Tebow just went in first ballot. Yeah, of
Speaker 2: course they're probably gonna build a statue outside people.
Speaker 3: Like Tim Tebow is the very reason that college football
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame exists.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know, like Tommy Fraser at Nebraska, wonderful player,
Speaker 2: Greg Pruitt, you know, Billy Simms, Like there's all these
Speaker 2: great college player. Billy Simms was good with the lines.
Speaker 2: But yes, Marvin, yeah, light there is why the College
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 13: He's this somebody would a great college career, okay, NBA career.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, but that I think that's very unfair to Lightoner,
Speaker 8: who you can make the cases one of the most
Speaker 8: five successful college careers of all time. Yeah okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: but he was a decent pro. He averaged like fifteen
Speaker 8: points a game. He wasn't complete bust and did not
Speaker 8: play gino Oriama I think is in the Basketball Hall
Speaker 8: of Fame. Yeah, he hadn't played a minute, but.
Speaker 2: He just won eleven titles college titles.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so John Wooden, right, But so they got in
Speaker 8: based off what they did in college, but Christian Lanner
Speaker 8: cannot get in based off what he did.
Speaker 2: And Christian Layner is going to get into the Nay
Speaker 2: Smith Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: So they're still weighing their options.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's not in this here now yet.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's I don't know how that works.
Speaker 8: I have the eligibility. You have to be done playing
Speaker 8: for four years.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's certainly been the case. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 8: The nomination process for the college for the Naismith Memorial
Speaker 8: Basketball Hall of Fame. You submitted to the CEO. He
Speaker 8: has to be nominated.
Speaker 2: I guess is he that just like that, nobody's going
Speaker 2: to nominate him?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 8: Could that be the reason?
Speaker 2: No, he's in the he's so he was so.
Speaker 8: I mean, oh, here's another one for later.
Speaker 2: He has to be later.
Speaker 8: Has a college career, a decent pro career.
Speaker 2: He was on the Dream Team.
Speaker 3: And it's funny though that he's the only member of
Speaker 3: the Dream Team not in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Correct, But he should be. I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: what would keep him out.
Speaker 3: But it is playing.
Speaker 2: What did he play twelve years? Maybe he might have
Speaker 2: played fifteen years in the NBA years, yeah.
Speaker 3: And averaged fifteen points.
Speaker 2: Is that a Hall of Fame career?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: No, the Hall of Fame career was what he did
Speaker 2: in college. College basketball.
Speaker 8: What about Pat Summit.
Speaker 2: Is in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: You could argue that Pat Summit had an infinitely larger
Speaker 3: impact on basketball. Christian later did, same with Gino Oriam,
Speaker 3: the same with Okay. Name a million coachs, Mike chu Chefski.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure. But Latner, as far as players go, is
Speaker 2: one of the top ten college players of all time.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that. No, but it's the
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of If they're going to make it the
Speaker 2: Pro Basketball Hall of Fame like they have the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame, then there's no argument here. But
Speaker 2: it's the Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: Yes, And you know this guy way better than we do.
Speaker 8: Bill Walton was one of the great college basketball players
Speaker 8: of all time. Correct, Yes, I mean first ballot? Right.
Speaker 8: Did he get in the Basketball Hall of Fame?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 8: Mostly his college career, Yes, it's fair to say his
Speaker 8: NBA career, he was a two time All Star, he.
Speaker 2: Won an MVP, he won a title, won two titles.
Speaker 2: He won one with the Celtics as sixth man. But
Speaker 2: Bill's career was a disappointment because of injuries. But what
Speaker 2: he did in college, he was one of the best
Speaker 2: players of all time, but he got in because of
Speaker 2: what he did in college.
Speaker 8: And Leuel Cinder, if he did play one minute for the.
Speaker 2: He would be in the basketball Hall of Fame. Leuwel
Speaker 2: Sindor the most dominating college player of old time.
Speaker 8: Is there a college football player who, like, let's say
Speaker 8: there's one hall of fame like for the NFL it
Speaker 8: was just a football Hall of Fame. Yeah, a guy
Speaker 8: who was a disappointing pro who would get in based
Speaker 8: off his college football that we were just talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean, does are we going to start being like, oh,
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Johnny Manziel should be in there
Speaker 3: too because of what he did in college.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Herschall Walker, yeah, Herschel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: If there was a football Hall of Fame for both
Speaker 8: college and pro career, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: You've seen in the USFL, and I mean he wasn't
Speaker 2: great in the NFL, but still he was Herschel. His
Speaker 2: position essentially is not valued at all anymore. But if
Speaker 2: I I don't want the college in with the NFL
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, I don't want that. But it's the
Speaker 2: Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame. So nay Smith invented basketball
Speaker 2: in college so it is about college as well as pros,
Speaker 2: which sounds strange, all right, Marvin, So.
Speaker 13: The players inducted this year, Dwayne Wade, Tony Parker, pogasol
Speaker 13: Derk Davitski, Christian Laitner should be in there with them.
Speaker 2: He should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame if
Speaker 2: you're going to include your college career. I mean, these
Speaker 2: are coaches who never coached in the NBA and we
Speaker 2: credit them. Jim Beayheim's Hall of Famer, but he win
Speaker 2: one title, won a lot of games. Rick Patino, he
Speaker 2: didn't do anything in the NBA. He's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: What are we arguing?
Speaker 8: It is issuing though it doesn't like a double standard,
Speaker 8: like Rick Petino is still coaching, He's never even retired,
Speaker 8: and he's already in the Hall of Fame. Yeah for
Speaker 8: his college coaching.
Speaker 2: Yes see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do we start clamoring for or fighting for
Speaker 3: the injustice of I don't know that is so. I
Speaker 3: don't know where that came from. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 3: know it came from Paul, but I'm not sure why. Well,
Speaker 3: he's not in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: This goes back to Harbor though, because let's say, Harbaugh
Speaker 8: coaches in the pros. It does a nice job with
Speaker 8: the Chargers but doesn't win a title, he might go
Speaker 8: in neither Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if he goes in, it would be
Speaker 2: the college Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: But if there was a combined football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Okay, Pete Carroll's not going into the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. Wow, I don't think.
Speaker 8: But I mean, is he if he had two, if
Speaker 8: they ran the ball, they.
Speaker 2: Would well maybe if it Look, you got Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: who's going in. Bill Cowher went in. So yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: Pete is a Pro Football Hall of Famer.
Speaker 8: But if it were just football Hall of Fame, Pete
Speaker 8: Carroll's in.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, But is he in the college Football Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame with what he did at USC And do
Speaker 2: I factor in what he didn't do in the NFL
Speaker 2: with two other stops with the Jets, and so I
Speaker 2: don't know. Let them all in, Let everybody in. We
Speaker 2: want Christian Lightner. That's our crusade to get Christian Laightner
Speaker 2: in the Basketball Hall of nobody's doing that, man, No,
Speaker 2: they aren't good. Oh, I'm hearing from some buddies in Seattle.
Speaker 2: Are you drunk now, I'm not. Pete Carroll's a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, all right. Is Russell Wilson a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7: Huh uh