WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Kalen DeBoer, Daniel Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. It's our two on this Thursday. Morale is high.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's here, including the Great Fritzy. Coming up, we'll check

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<v Speaker 2>in with the Chargers. How's morale there? Who has it

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<v Speaker 2>better than we do? Nobody? If you're the Chargers. Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Harbaugh coming to town. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst, and

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<v Speaker 2>also he is a color analyst for the Chargers on radio.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll join us coming up. Also, the Alabama head coach

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<v Speaker 2>Calin de Bor will join us a little bit later

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<v Speaker 2>on this hour, and the Lions running back Jamiir Gibbs

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<v Speaker 2>will stop by as the Lions get ready to go

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<v Speaker 2>to San Francisco eight seven to seven three DP show

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<v Speaker 2>operator the what are we calling Tyler the Minister of

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<v Speaker 2>Culture here? He's our Minister of culture, Prime Minister Prime, Well, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>just minister, this minister. He has to aspire to something.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler's nickname, just become prime. We say good morning. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching on Peacock and Tyler's standing by to take

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<v Speaker 2>your phone calls. Poll question Seaton. We got two of.

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<v Speaker 3>Them up there right now, Dan, what's more likely to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>In the next five years Chargers when Super Bowl or

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan stripped of the title. Right now, sixty three percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the audience have Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, maybe they just don't have confidence in the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair yeah, fair, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also put up there who is happier today,

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<v Speaker 3>Dean Spanos or Ryan Day running away with it? Not

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<v Speaker 3>even close? Seventy four percent of the vote. Ryan Day

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<v Speaker 3>should be thrilled today.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we gonna go with with our two? You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep those up? That's so funny to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we could put out Todd had this one, which

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<v Speaker 3>is interesting because I don't know that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>agree with the premise necessarily because I think we've you

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<v Speaker 3>said that, maybe we've tempered expectations for Justin Herbert and

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<v Speaker 3>the Chargers. But okay, will Justin Herbert win an NFL

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<v Speaker 3>MVP under the tutelage of Jim Harbaugh, the tutelage.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say, yes, you said he will? Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say that, Okay, Yeah, he will win an

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<v Speaker 4>NFL MVP. Yeah, Okay, I'm going to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okayte By the way, the Chargers Super Bowl odds are

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<v Speaker 2>the same as the Falcons. Today, the Jets have better

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl odds than the Chargers, but in fairness to

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<v Speaker 2>Harbaugh getting out there, it's going to take more than

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<v Speaker 2>one season. Plus you're still in a competitive conference with

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs. That was another thing. I mean, Sandy

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<v Speaker 2>or Sandy. The Chargers gave Jim everything that he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>and because Atlanta was going to have a second interview

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<v Speaker 2>with him, going through the NFC to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl would be a little bit easier, you

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<v Speaker 2>would think. Because you're worried about the Niners, you may

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<v Speaker 2>not be as worried about the Cowboys or the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe some of these other teams aren't ready to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tampa Bay Reel. Is there an outwier there?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's in the AFC? If I just look at the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>I got Lamar Jackson, I got Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 2>in my division, Joe Burrow, I'm going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>go through him as well. So that's just three there.

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<v Speaker 5>And C. J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud is in the AFC and he of course surprised

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people this year. But all right, we

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<v Speaker 2>will settle on a pull question for hour two, We

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<v Speaker 2>make way for Daniel Jeremiah, Chargers radio analyst and network

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<v Speaker 2>analyst at NFL. Daniel, your reaction when the Chargers got

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Harball was what was excitement?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, I think he brings excitement everywhere he goes.

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<v Speaker 5>He's won everywhere he's gone. I was in the driveway

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<v Speaker 5>playing horse with my son, and my phone started blowing

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<v Speaker 5>up from all my friends that I grew up with

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<v Speaker 5>that are lifelong Charger fans. I'll tell you my dad,

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<v Speaker 5>who grew up in Ohio and has been out here

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<v Speaker 5>in southern California for forty years, has been a huge

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<v Speaker 5>Charger fan. He was very excited on multiple levels that

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<v Speaker 5>Jim Harbaugh got that job. So he was He's been

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<v Speaker 5>a lifelong Buckeye fan and a long time Charger fan,

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<v Speaker 5>so he literally had the best day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what is the team getting with Jim Harba.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you're getting a couple of things. Obviously, you're getting identity.

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<v Speaker 5>His every team he coaches wherever he's been has been

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<v Speaker 5>a tough, physical, line of scrimmage team, so you're getting toughness.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing that you're getting is you're getting somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who's gonna get it up and running and is going

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<v Speaker 5>to establish accountability.

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<v Speaker 6>Early.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember going up there to Stanford. I was scouting

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<v Speaker 5>at that time when he got that job, and I

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<v Speaker 5>remember in that press conference, I think somebody asked a

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<v Speaker 5>question about USC and he wasn't. There was no deference there,

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<v Speaker 5>there was no oh, you know, hey, we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>build our He was like, we're ready to go against

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<v Speaker 5>them right now. And all of us scouts when we

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<v Speaker 5>laughed Dan, We're like, this is he's crazy, Like does

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<v Speaker 5>he know how bad Stanford is? Does he know how

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<v Speaker 5>hard it is to get players in the stand Like

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<v Speaker 5>we've heard this for years, for decades, And the guy

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<v Speaker 5>went in there and beat him the first year, what

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<v Speaker 5>like forty point Underdogs like it. You know, people can

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<v Speaker 5>think of whatever they want. He brings energy, enthusiasm, and

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<v Speaker 5>the guy wins.

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<v Speaker 2>What is Harball getting with this roster with the Chargers?

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<v Speaker 2>What's he get him himself into.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, it's not a perfect roster, but you've got

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<v Speaker 5>a great quarterback, You've got a you know, a franchise

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<v Speaker 5>left tackle, You've got two pass rushers that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to keep them healthy. They got to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out what they want to do salary cap wise, Therewin James'

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<v Speaker 5>special player Keenan Allen's still an elite receiver. Like, there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of pieces in place there. I would imagine

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<v Speaker 5>he's gonna want to come in there and really kind

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<v Speaker 5>of you know, put more resources into the offense and

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<v Speaker 5>defensive line. H they're gonna need tight ends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a one year fix with some of the

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<v Speaker 5>holes there to get it to where he wants it

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<v Speaker 5>to be. But I you know, look, I think Justin

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<v Speaker 5>Herbert is going to have less on his plate, which

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be a good thing. You know, when

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<v Speaker 5>he had Andrew Locke, how tempting would it have been

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<v Speaker 5>from most play callers that say we're gonna throw it

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<v Speaker 5>fifty times a game, this is the best quarterback in

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<v Speaker 5>college football and it's not even close. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>do that. He ran the ball. They were physical, and

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<v Speaker 5>they asked Andrew Luck to kind of make those handful

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<v Speaker 5>of plays. So I don't know if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>the MVP before I came on, You don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>Herbert's gonna throw over five thousand yards at Jim Harball.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's gonna be very efficient and he's gonna win.

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<v Speaker 5>That's you know. I don't know how that gets you

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<v Speaker 5>to MVPs, but it's gonna get you a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>success in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you got to be the MVP comes from the

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<v Speaker 2>first seed or the second seed in your conference. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be the number one or number two seed.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they get there and Herbert's your quarterback and

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<v Speaker 2>plays well, because I don't know if Jim treats Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Herbert the way did JJ McCarthy at Michigan. Because here's McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 2>I expected to be a first round draft pick, and

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<v Speaker 2>you watch that Penn State game. They didn't even ask

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<v Speaker 2>him to do anything. They just ran the football the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. Can you can you is the NFL now

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<v Speaker 2>for Jim? Is it the same when Jim was at

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco? Can you still have the same kind of philosophy?

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<v Speaker 5>I still think you can play the way he played

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<v Speaker 5>at San Francisco provided you had what they had. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean that that offensive line, defensive line, we're outstanding with

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco. That afforded him the luxury to play that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Very few teams have that. I mean, I was watching

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<v Speaker 5>the Niners game last week, and you know, I thought, man,

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<v Speaker 5>they you know, I know that they ended up winning

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<v Speaker 5>that game and pretty ended up making plays late. But

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<v Speaker 5>I'm watching that game. You know, you can just turn

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<v Speaker 5>around and give it to McCaffrey and win this particular

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<v Speaker 5>football game. And you know they didn't. They didn't choose

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<v Speaker 5>to do that, but I still think they had a

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<v Speaker 5>team that could do that. I think that's the goal

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<v Speaker 5>that they'll want to get to that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Here and also being relevant in Los Angeles because even

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<v Speaker 2>though the Chargers had a potential marquee quarterback, great uniforms there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, down the depth chart as far as must

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<v Speaker 2>see TV or even must attend, Harball is a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now, all of a sudden, you know there's something there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's enough right now, but Harbor

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<v Speaker 2>all having Harball's philosophy or culture there. I wonder what

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<v Speaker 2>that does to the LA market.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it'll bring enthusiasm. It's a winner's town. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you've got to win to draw any attention, and it

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<v Speaker 5>helps to have some personality. And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>go when you look at the Rams and Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 5>and what he's brought, I mean, he's an incredible, incredible

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<v Speaker 5>coach who's brought consistent winning and he has a personality

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<v Speaker 5>about him too. Jim's different, but I think you get

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of those same perks of guy who's going

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<v Speaker 5>to come in and when he's gonna stand out because

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<v Speaker 5>of who he is and how he handles himself, which

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<v Speaker 5>I you know, I think is a chance to make

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<v Speaker 5>a dent in the market. It's you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of teams there. You're competing with a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>different teams for eyeballs, but there's also a heck of

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people there, so I think there is

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<v Speaker 5>there is room to see this thing grow as it

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<v Speaker 5>goes forward.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst also host

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<v Speaker 2>of Moved the Sticks podcast with Rhet Lewis and Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>Have available wherever you get your podcast. Who was the

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<v Speaker 2>backup plan if Harball didn't go, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would have been if it wasn't hard off it would

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I would expect Rabel would have been the choice.

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<v Speaker 5>It just feels like they needed to go get an

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<v Speaker 5>established kind of brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Carroll would have been on their radar.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, I think look as a coach, absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>in the in the area, it would have been a

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<v Speaker 5>very popular move. I don't know where, you know, with

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<v Speaker 5>the difference in age between him and Rabel. I know

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<v Speaker 5>Vrabel hasn't had the success that Pete's had, but he

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<v Speaker 5>still has. You know, he comes with with a culture

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<v Speaker 5>and an identity and has won a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that would have been My guess is what

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<v Speaker 5>the fallback play would have been.

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<v Speaker 2>When do you start breaking down quarterbacks for the NFL Draft?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, come on, Dan, we're there, man, We're yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 5>at that point. So I've been I've been doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually watched a lot of JJ McCarthy yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 5>those top five guys, I'm pretty pretty versed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how many quarterbacks do you think will be taken

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<v Speaker 2>in the first draft.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say three are going to go in the

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<v Speaker 5>first three picks. I would be shocked if we don't

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<v Speaker 5>go quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, and then after that, I think

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to get a guaranteed fourth. However, for people

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<v Speaker 5>sort that out, I think there's six candidates. I'll say

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<v Speaker 5>there'll be five, and one of them will go to

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<v Speaker 5>the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Michael Pennix might slip here. He would he would

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<v Speaker 2>be he would be the sixth for me.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when you when you when you put those

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<v Speaker 5>guys all together, I think there's a some the two

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<v Speaker 5>interesting debates to me in this, I think most teams

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<v Speaker 5>will have Caleb just the talent is so is so

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<v Speaker 5>off the charts, they will have him.

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<v Speaker 2>Won.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's gonna be a real good debate between

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<v Speaker 5>Drake May and Jayden Daniels that's going to take us

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<v Speaker 5>all the way to the draft. And I think that

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<v Speaker 5>the next tier between j. J. McCarthy and Bonnicks, I

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<v Speaker 5>think is going to be a really interesting debate with

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<v Speaker 5>all the differences in age, but the experience in different

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<v Speaker 5>play styles, what was put on their play There's are

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be fascinating discussions.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Bears called you, what would you say.

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<v Speaker 5>We're taking Caleb Williams. Okay, look, Dan, we'll answer this question.

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<v Speaker 5>Justin fields. Would you argue is the fourth best quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>in that division? Yeah, assuming Kirk Cousins came back, he's

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So my thing is, look, there's no there's no such

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<v Speaker 5>thing as a draft pick without risk. But I would

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<v Speaker 5>say if you took Caleb Williams, you got to develop

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<v Speaker 5>and put the pieces in place and make it happen.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, you go from having the fourth best

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback in the division to having the most talented quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>in the division. You've got to put it all together.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a finished product there. There's development, But in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of talent, Caleb Williams is more talented than any

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<v Speaker 5>of those other three quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curio about curious about Justin Fields that if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the Falcons, it's not gonna cost me much. Would that

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<v Speaker 2>be somebody that But I don't know if Belichick takes

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<v Speaker 2>that job or whoever takes that job. But where where's

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Field's gonna end up here?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think that'd be my number one spot, Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Yeah, I think it is. And I always

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<v Speaker 5>I need to be careful to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't forget to say this too. Justin's one of the

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<v Speaker 5>thirty two best quarterbacks in the NFL right now. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a starting caliber quarterback who's gotten better throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think when you stack him up in that division.

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<v Speaker 2>But that didn't sound like a great compliment there Daniel.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, I just I think that people say that

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<v Speaker 5>you either are the starting quarterback of the Bears or

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna be you know, you're gonna get traded for

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<v Speaker 5>a fifth round pick and go be a backup somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's he there's teams that don't have a quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>as good as justin Fields and more than one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think Atlanta would be a great spot for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that young team and just let him go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're playing and have your games indoors on turf,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's just go. Let's because I thought if Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>moved on from Kyler Murray, that would have been another place.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I want to take advantage of what I

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<v Speaker 2>have Bjon Robinson. You've got a couple of good receivers there,

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<v Speaker 2>and and taking over a team that has underachieved, I

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<v Speaker 2>think if but I don't even know if they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give it to Belichick.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, just just try to imagine, Dan, Just just close

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<v Speaker 5>your eyes and imagine you had an ultra athletic quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>in Atlanta. I mean, what could that look like? We've

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<v Speaker 5>never seen it before, you know, just let's your imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Yeah, a right hand, a right handed athletic quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and just looking in the mirror, just looking in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, thanks for joining us. Appreciate you. Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's Daniel Jeremiah ad afhone network analyst and

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<v Speaker 2>he works for the Chargers on radio as well. He's

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<v Speaker 2>already done his deep dive on his quarterbacks there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams. And yeah, as I said yesterday, Jayden Daniels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's starting to move up, starting to move up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's going to be an interesting conversation

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<v Speaker 2>as we get closer to the draft. Dave in Arkansas, Hi, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 7>They call me it for Dave? And I had to

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<v Speaker 7>have that that male rear procedure that nobody wants, but

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<v Speaker 7>I figure out let the pros do it, so went

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<v Speaker 7>up to crap you. I've got to say they've done

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<v Speaker 7>a great job with the town. They really know how

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<v Speaker 7>to decorate. Everything is this lovely shade of brown. They're

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<v Speaker 7>brown everywhere. Uh, there are a few reds and greens,

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<v Speaker 7>but that's skid row. You don't want to you don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to deal.

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<v Speaker 2>With that, alright, come on, Dave, come on, the only.

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<v Speaker 7>Part I couldn't figure out is that there were everything

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<v Speaker 7>was decorated with little pieces of corn everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you, Jave, Dave, Dave, the video you sent

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<v Speaker 2>in of pie of the Face was wonderful. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with sneaky, subtle humor, subtlety. Appreciate it. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>like that sneaky. That wasn't sneaky or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Although to be fair, there's not very much subtle about Pittsburgh, Dave.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, he's a right in your face kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But Crappensburg State and you know, one of the majors

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<v Speaker 2>we have is proctology, so uh you know that that

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<v Speaker 2>is if you get your degree, you know you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a special class there. All right, let's clean up

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<v Speaker 2>the mess here because we have the Alabama coach Kaelin

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<v Speaker 2>de Bore set to join us, and we'll be on

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<v Speaker 2>our best behavior. We're back after this on The Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be two weeks tomorrow that Calin de

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<v Speaker 2>Boor took over Alabama for Nick Saban coach, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>led Washington to the National title game. Now the new

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<v Speaker 2>head coach at Alabama, Well, you've been there almost two weeks, so, coach,

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<v Speaker 2>how's your accents? It changed?

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<v Speaker 6>So it hasn't still got that still got that Midwest

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<v Speaker 6>kind of feel to it, I think, and it probably

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<v Speaker 6>always will so. But it's great. Beyond your show, Dan,

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<v Speaker 6>appreciate having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you right now?

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<v Speaker 6>We're in Alabama just making our rounds and on the

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<v Speaker 6>recruiting trail, so it's going great. When you said two weeks,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of hit me about how fast time's been flying by.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're making the most of every minute. The coaching

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<v Speaker 6>staff's coming together nice, and you know, just really proud

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<v Speaker 6>of how far we've come in a short a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of time. All Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The number one thing that you had to do soon

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<v Speaker 2>as you hit ground in Tuscaloosa was.

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<v Speaker 6>What well you want you you know, meeting with the

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<v Speaker 6>team and really trying to get in front of them

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<v Speaker 6>and just you know the craziness of college athletics and

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<v Speaker 6>in particular the portal and just trying to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>that they got to feel for who I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in the moment as soon as I landed, got in

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<v Speaker 6>front of them, but the next you know, four days

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<v Speaker 6>or so, trying to meet with them individually in groups.

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<v Speaker 6>You're trying to build the staff at the same time

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<v Speaker 6>and showing them the vision and feeling the personalities of

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<v Speaker 6>those that will be coming into the program to coach them.

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<v Speaker 6>So that balance right there, you know, kept me busy

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<v Speaker 6>for those you know, four or five days. And now

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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of reaching out and getting to the recruiting.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that's been done, whether it's guys that have signed,

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<v Speaker 6>and just trying to continue to impress on them their

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<v Speaker 6>importance in our program and I'm excited to have them

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<v Speaker 6>join us, and of course the classes in the future,

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<v Speaker 6>the twenty five and twenty six is and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, also, were you recruiting re recruiting some of your

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<v Speaker 2>players who were going to go in the portal or

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<v Speaker 2>at least talking about going into the portal?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, absolutely, you know, and that's that's that's a big

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<v Speaker 6>part of it. I think that's probably some of the

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<v Speaker 6>best recruiting our coaches have done so far, as is

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<v Speaker 6>really recruiting our own roster, and uh, you know, that's uh,

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<v Speaker 6>it's crazy to say that, but you know, I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's the case no matter what. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>even even at another level now just with everything. So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really proud of the way our guys. When I

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<v Speaker 6>say our guys, our team have been receptive and embraced

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<v Speaker 6>our coaching staff and myself. I think we've done a

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<v Speaker 6>great job of retaining the cores, the nucleus of who's

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<v Speaker 6>it in this program. There's so many great players and

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<v Speaker 6>they want this place to be great, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>certainly taught them by surprise and you know, it hits

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<v Speaker 6>it pretty hard when you know, Coach Saban retired and

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<v Speaker 6>that's a big piece of why they came here. But

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<v Speaker 6>they also came here to wear or wear those Alabama colors,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know they've really again been receptive to to

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<v Speaker 6>myself and holding it together and wanting to carry on

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<v Speaker 6>the legacy of this great place.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get Coach Saban's office?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I do, I do. It's it's I think about

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<v Speaker 6>all the people that have been in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, he cleaned it out, So did he leave

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<v Speaker 2>anything for you in his office?

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't found it, found it yet. There's probably a

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<v Speaker 6>few things that you know, he'll he'll we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 6>and uh, you know, articles and things like that. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>he's a he's he's going to be certainly around the

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<v Speaker 6>campus and uh, you know, excited to have him around.

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<v Speaker 6>So much institutional knowledge and just everything that I can

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<v Speaker 6>drop on. I've said it many times, I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 6>Be pretty foolish not to use him as a great resource.

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<v Speaker 6>I know he wants this program to continue to be

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<v Speaker 6>great in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, did you have that moment where you sat there

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<v Speaker 2>in his chair at his desk in his office by

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and just said to yourself, I'm the head coach

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<v Speaker 2>at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's it's certainly a special place. And uh Coach

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<v Speaker 6>Sabans made it that way, you know, And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that piece of it was intriguing and exciting

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<v Speaker 6>to me when going through this process of looking to

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<v Speaker 6>be in the head coach. And you know, he's made

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<v Speaker 6>it an amazing job, as have others that come before

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<v Speaker 6>him too, and so yeah, the legacy leaves you can't

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<v Speaker 6>help but notice it, and you know, carrying on that tradition,

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's my goal.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you hear or your people here from Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>prior to you taking this job? Did Michigan ever reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to you about the possibility of replacing Jim Harbaugh?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, this was this was all about Alabama here,

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<v Speaker 6>and no.

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<v Speaker 2>This is prior to you taking that that I know

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan had a wish list there of in case Jim

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<v Speaker 2>would was actually going to go back to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>So i've and your name was on that from what

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<v Speaker 2>I was told, So I was curious if they ever

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to you prior to you taking Alabama.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, that would never have been anything that have

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<v Speaker 6>been aware of. I think, you know, when you think

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<v Speaker 6>about the timeline of how quickly things happened from a

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<v Speaker 6>National championship game and you know two days later coach

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<v Speaker 6>Saban retiring in the next day an interview and then

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<v Speaker 6>hired them. There just wasn't a lot of time for anything.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, it's been a whirlwind. And excited to

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<v Speaker 6>be the head coach at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do with your Washington gear?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know yet. I haven't been back since I

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<v Speaker 6>took the job, so it's it's probably sitting there in

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<v Speaker 6>the closet somewhere, but you know, we'll get back there

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, get the family moved down here and strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, in that strange coach that you just you get up,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta go, You got to hit the ground running,

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<v Speaker 2>and your family's still back there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was. It happens fast, and that's probably the

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<v Speaker 6>unfortunate thing of all this is how quickly it happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably spent literally five to ten minutes packing the bag

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<v Speaker 6>and forgot a lot of things and just enough to

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<v Speaker 6>get through a few days. And actually that carries them

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<v Speaker 6>on through a few weeks. But you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 6>there's no great way to be able to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>talk to the fan base and your team. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll get to that. Here's things settle down and make

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<v Speaker 6>sure everyone truly understands how much I appreciate them. You know,

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 6>you're the head coach. You invest a lot of time

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<v Speaker 6>into it as well as well as people investing in you.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh, you know, certainly that place has got a

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<v Speaker 6>special place in my heart and always will. But you know,

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 6>those players there are so special and again happens fast.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the unfortunate part of just the business and how

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<v Speaker 6>things go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it's it's really the crappy side of

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 2>all of this that you know, you you get that

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<v Speaker 2>team to a national title game, those kids and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, you know, do you even did did

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<v Speaker 2>you get to say goodbye to anybody?

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<v Speaker 6>I got a chance to be in front of the team,

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<v Speaker 6>and even not all of those guys, just with how

0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 6>quickly it happens. Uh, you know, we're able to get

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<v Speaker 6>the message and be there, and that's again a very

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 6>unfortunate you know, not the way you want to have

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 6>it have it happen, but within you know, ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 6>You're you're sending out a message to the team after

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<v Speaker 6>accepted the job, and you know, I was on campus

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<v Speaker 6>and met with the staff briefly and tell them how

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<v Speaker 6>much I appreciate him, and met with the team and

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<v Speaker 6>literally had to you know, fly down here and get

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<v Speaker 6>to work and meet the team and all the things

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<v Speaker 6>that we talked about earlier about you know, recruiting the

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<v Speaker 6>roster and thinking about you know, getting this organization rolling

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<v Speaker 6>as quick as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good luck on the recruiting trail. Thanks for joining us, coach.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for always having me on. Dan

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 6>appreciate you.

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Lin Demore, he's the Alabama head coach. Hey, you

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>take the job. Next thing, you know, it's like, hey,

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>can I get together with you? Get on a private

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 2>plane and you're going hit the ground running. But you

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>have to have that moment where you sit down. You're

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<v Speaker 2>in Nick Saban's office, now your office, and you sit

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>in the chair, nobody else is there. You close the door,

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>you just go I'm I'm replacing Nick Saban. I'm Alabama's

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 2>head coach. Good stuff, all right? Some phone calls here

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven seven three DP show Nate in Ohio joins

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<v Speaker 2>us Hi, Nate, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey Dan, I've got three mock headlines for Jim Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 10>going to LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, so are you right?

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<v Speaker 6>Are they?

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Are they going to be better than Fritzy's Nuts and Bolts?

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 10>I'll let you decide, Okay, I think so, Okay, all right,

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 10>here we go. All right, first one is Harbaugh revolts

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 10>former charters, QB returns as head coach, revolts Shock and Awe,

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 10>Harbaugh electrified Chargers as their current coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, current, I got that current kind of kind of

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 2>clumsy there, Okay, give me another one here, it is

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the best one.

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<v Speaker 10>Harball bolts for LA, leaves Michigan, Michigan wondering Watt's next?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, that's Nate like Watts, like you know,

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>killo Watts stunt. I got that whole electrical the current, Yeah.

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 8>Worked all the electricity thing in. I'm gonna go nuts

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 8>and bolts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fine. And you know, I'm sure that question

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>about was he contacted by Michigan came out of left field.

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>But I was told Michigan had to prepare a list

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 2>of candidates in case Jim left. Jim was not making

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>it a secret that he was going to entertain the NFL.

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>He has in the two previous seasons, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a list and I think there were seven names, and

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Klin de Boor was one of those. I mean, it's

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 2>obvious that you would at least look at have a

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>wish list just in case. And I think that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know if they reached out to him at

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<v Speaker 2>any point during all of this. But he's right playing

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the National title game two days later, you're Alabama's head coach.

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't that time period that I was told about.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 2>It was prior to that, leading up to the National

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Title game. If Jim did leave, you just didn't want

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 2>unless they knew that Sharon Moore was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach and they had their fallback plan. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think having options made sense in a situation like that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Paulie, I was thinking about this with Harvard just

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 8>going college football is the only loser here. Maybe the

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 8>fans this feels like we've lost. College football has lost

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.479
<v Speaker 8>Nick Saban and Jim Harbaugh in the past three weeks.

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<v Speaker 8>Those are the two faces of the sport in college football.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think there's even a debate about it. Kurry

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 8>Smart's famous and successful, but he's not entrenched in American culture.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 8>It reminds me like remember a decade ago, or maybe

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<v Speaker 8>a little longer, when like Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Dale,

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 8>our junior all left NASCAR in like a three year

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 8>window and there's like the three faces of the sport

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 8>left and they're trying to find people to replace them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you also had that in college basketball, Pat Summit

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 2>who passed away, Mike Skryzewski, Jim Beheim. You know, these

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 2>are three of the winningst coaches in you know, college

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>basketball history, and college basketball is known for its coaches

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>because that's the constant. And with college football as well,

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>it's the coaches who are mostly constant because the players,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, are transferring, you know, maybe not staying at

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>a place you know, more than one or two years. Uh,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Chris and Indy. Hey, Chris, thanks for holding what's on

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>your mind today?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah? Hey, Dan, thanks for taking a call. Hey, I'm

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 11>looking forward to the games this weekend. But I've never

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 11>wanted one quarterback to win so badly and want to

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 11>lose so badly, just with the fascination with Lamar Jackson.

0:27:56.160 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 11>I'm I try to understand it. You know, he said,

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 11>have you ever had an NFL MVP with I mean,

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 11>I don't want to say pedestrian stats, but just you know,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 11>I know it's been a down year, but I mean

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 11>Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson were drafted in the same class,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 11>and if you look at the stats, I mean, it's

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 11>not even close. And the year that Josh Allen had

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 11>this year, I'm just I try to understand that Josh

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 11>Allen hate. And then I tried to understand that Lamar

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 11>Jackson love. I just I don't get it.

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Well that Lamar Jackson. They were the number one seed

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>and in the last decade, your MVP has come from

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>a team that is either the one or two seats,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think you got to give credit to Lamar Jackson.

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of questions about Lamar Jackson. Did

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>anybody want to trade for him? Where the Raven's going

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to bring him back? And it's not always about stats.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know, with Josh Allen, it's not that I

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's Josh Allen hate. There might be a

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>little too much Josh Allen love for people. I think

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>some of these analysts who play or like, wait a minute,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>why are you're propping that guy up? He hadn't done anything.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Lamar's at least won two MVPs. Mahomes best quarterback of

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>his era and one of the best quarterbacks of all time.

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that might be the negativity is there are a

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of people who are carrying Josh Allen's water, not

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>that he needs to, but it felt like there was

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>this outpouring of people wanting to put Josh Allen on

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the same level with Patrick Mahomes, and he's not there. Obviously.

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>By the way, the Chiefs have scored on their opening

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>drive in seven consecutive playoff games, the longest streak in

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the last thirty years, So something to keep an eye

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>out that first drive that they have against the Baltimore Ravens.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 2>We also have Lamar Jackson talking about his matchup with

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't like competing against him at all, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, he's a great quarterback, definitely, hall of famer

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 12>is not even it's a little brain. He's definitely a

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 12>Hall of Famer. He was just two greats up and

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 12>coming greats just going toe to toe, you know, like

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 12>a heavyweight fight.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Like they said, No, I don't like going up against him.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You usually get quarterbacks saying, oh, I love the challenge

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>and you know, going against the best, actually going up

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>against their defense. Yes, really not, Yes, he's not playing defense.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 8>I saw a couple of NFL shows they took this

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.959
<v Speaker 8>clip and they made it into a question. They said,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 8>is Patch Holmes football tomorrow? And hypothetical is he a

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 8>Hall of Famer already? And it wasn't even really a topic,

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 8>Like they went around the room they said, yeah, sure,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 8>almost almost first ballot at twenty eight years old. We

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 8>talk about how complimentary.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>The greatest start of an NFL career.

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 8>It is because Brady had three before he's twenty eight,

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 8>but Mahomes has had much bigger numbers to twenty eight.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think Kansas City has relied more on Mahomes

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>than the Patriots relied on Tom Brady when they first

0:30:59.080 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>started out.

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 8>Mahomes is at age twenty eight, six Pro Bowls, two

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 8>times All Pro, two times Super Bowl Champ, two time MVP,

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 8>two times Super Bowl MVP, and then I can give

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 8>you a dozen more nice secondary world.

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but if he stops playing. If he stops playing

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>due to an injury, he'll get extra credit because we

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 2>did that with Terrell Davis. We did that with Gail Sayirs,

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>We've done that. Now if he all of a sudden

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>did what Barry Sanders did and just said, see you,

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm out, I'm going to go on tour with Taylor

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Swift and go to all of her concerts or something.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>He's still a Hall of Famer. Yeah, absolutely. I don't

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>know if it's a debate and it's like, yeah, he's

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 13>Yes, Ma, it's crazy because he's not going to make

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 13>the college Football Hall of Fame, but he's gonna make

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 13>the Profoball Hall of Fame.

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, when we come back, Paul, he brought up

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>this idea, and it has to do with the college

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Basketball Hall of Fame and the basketball Hall of Fame.

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Also we have college football Hall of Fame and you

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>have the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We'll explain all

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of this when we return after this.

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0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.680
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0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:19.680
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0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Came in this morning as I do every day Monday

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>through Friday, and set a load to everybody. All of

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.719
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I see Paulie. Paulie had a question about

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame also the Pro Football

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame, and should we combine college with the

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>pros and have one big hall of fame for all

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the sports? And I went, okay, let me take off

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>my coat and sit down. We can discuss this a

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>little bit. And I said, I'll carve out some time

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 2>for this, so state your case so the audience can

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>play along with it.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 8>It's almost a question more than a case. I was

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 8>thinking about Jim Harbot today and I was thinking, now

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 8>he's in the pros again, is he going to go

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 8>into the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.479
<v Speaker 8>No, but he will probably go into the college football

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 8>Hall of Fame, right with one title.

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 2>And what he did at Stanford, yeah, San Diego. Yeah,

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>But even there, your well, they're probably more lenient with

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>college Hall of Fame.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 8>But even there, you pause. So it's possible Jim Harbaugh

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 8>could go down with his coaching career going to neither

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 8>halls of fame. So now he were doing the same thing,

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 8>and he were a basketball coach. Let's say he won

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 8>a national title and also was a very good pro coach.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 8>He would probably go into the Naismith Basketball Hall of

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 8>Fame for you know, abilities in pro and college. Should

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 8>the NFL and College Football Hall of Fame combine into

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 8>a football Hall of Fame to open up the whole

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 8>concept like basketball? Is that done?

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>The NFL Hall of Fame brings about a lot of conversation.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Who's up for the Basketball Hall of Fame this year?

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And that will tell you that it's not that important.

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 2>It's an important honor, but you can be Christian Laitner

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 2>is one of the ten greatest college players of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>He would go into the basketball Hall of Fame. He's

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<v Speaker 2>in the college basketball Hall of Fame. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why he's not in the Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 8>And it is weird that basketball has both the at

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 8>Bat Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame, which would be college

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 8>or pro, and then a separate college basketball Hall of

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 8>Fame which most people don't talk about, or NOVA.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And even the college Football Hall of Fame. Yeah, I

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>think Tim Tebow just went in first ballot. Yeah, of

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>course they're probably gonna build a statue outside people.

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Like Tim Tebow is the very reason that college football

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, you know, like Tommy Fraser at Nebraska, wonderful player,

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Greg Pruitt, you know, Billy Simms, Like there's all these

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 2>great college player. Billy Simms was good with the lines.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>But yes, Marvin, yeah, light there is why the College

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 13>He's this somebody would a great college career, okay, NBA career.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, but that I think that's very unfair to Lightoner,

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.479
<v Speaker 8>who you can make the cases one of the most

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 8>five successful college careers of all time. Yeah okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>but he was a decent pro. He averaged like fifteen

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 8>points a game. He wasn't complete bust and did not

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<v Speaker 8>play gino Oriama I think is in the Basketball Hall

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 8>of Fame. Yeah, he hadn't played a minute, but.

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>He just won eleven titles college titles.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so John Wooden, right, But so they got in

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 8>based off what they did in college, but Christian Lanner

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 8>cannot get in based off what he did.

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>And Christian Layner is going to get into the Nay

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Smith Basketball Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 8>So they're still weighing their options.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he's not in this here now yet.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's I don't know how that works.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 8>I have the eligibility. You have to be done playing

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 8>for four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's certainly been the case. Yeah, that's it.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 8>The nomination process for the college for the Naismith Memorial

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 8>Basketball Hall of Fame. You submitted to the CEO. He

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<v Speaker 8>has to be nominated.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is he that just like that, nobody's going

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to nominate him?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that?

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<v Speaker 8>Could that be the reason?

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>No, he's in the he's so he was so.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 8>I mean, oh, here's another one for later.

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 2>He has to be later.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 8>Has a college career, a decent pro career.

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>He was on the Dream Team.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 3>And it's funny though that he's the only member of

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the Dream Team not in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Correct, But he should be. I don't I don't know

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>what would keep him out.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is playing.

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<v Speaker 2>What did he play twelve years? Maybe he might have

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 2>played fifteen years in the NBA years, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And averaged fifteen points.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that a Hall of Fame career?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>No, the Hall of Fame career was what he did

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>in college. College basketball.

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 8>What about Pat Summit.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Is in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>You could argue that Pat Summit had an infinitely larger

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 3>impact on basketball. Christian later did, same with Gino Oriam,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>the same with Okay. Name a million coachs, Mike chu Chefski.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure. But Latner, as far as players go, is

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>one of the top ten college players of all time.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>And there's nothing wrong with that. No, but it's the

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Basketball Hall of If they're going to make it the

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Pro Basketball Hall of Fame like they have the Pro

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Football Hall of Fame, then there's no argument here. But

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>it's the Basketball Hall of Fame.

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 8>Yes, And you know this guy way better than we do.

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 8>Bill Walton was one of the great college basketball players

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 8>of all time. Correct, Yes, I mean first ballot? Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Did he get in the Basketball Hall of Fame?

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 11>Yes?

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 8>Mostly his college career, Yes, it's fair to say his

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 8>NBA career, he was a two time All Star, he.

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Won an MVP, he won a title, won two titles.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 2>He won one with the Celtics as sixth man. But

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Bill's career was a disappointment because of injuries. But what

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 2>he did in college, he was one of the best

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>players of all time, but he got in because of

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>what he did in college.

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 8>And Leuel Cinder, if he did play one minute for the.

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>He would be in the basketball Hall of Fame. Leuwel

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>Sindor the most dominating college player of old time.

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 8>Is there a college football player who, like, let's say

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 8>there's one hall of fame like for the NFL it

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 8>was just a football Hall of Fame. Yeah, a guy

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 8>who was a disappointing pro who would get in based

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 8>off his college football that we were just talking about.

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, does are we going to start being like, oh,

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, Johnny Manziel should be in there

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 3>too because of what he did in college.

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 8>Herschall Walker, yeah, Herschel.

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 8>If there was a football Hall of Fame for both

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 8>college and pro career, yeah, yeah.

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 2>You've seen in the USFL, and I mean he wasn't

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 2>great in the NFL, but still he was Herschel. His

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 2>position essentially is not valued at all anymore. But if

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I I don't want the college in with the NFL

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame, I don't want that. But it's the

0:38:55.840 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame. So nay Smith invented basketball

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>in college so it is about college as well as pros,

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 2>which sounds strange, all right, Marvin, So.

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 13>The players inducted this year, Dwayne Wade, Tony Parker, pogasol

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 13>Derk Davitski, Christian Laitner should be in there with them.

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 2>He should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame if

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you're going to include your college career. I mean, these

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>are coaches who never coached in the NBA and we

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 2>credit them. Jim Beayheim's Hall of Famer, but he win

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>one title, won a lot of games. Rick Patino, he

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything in the NBA. He's a Hall of Famer.

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>What are we arguing?

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 8>It is issuing though it doesn't like a double standard,

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 8>like Rick Petino is still coaching, He's never even retired,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 8>and he's already in the Hall of Fame. Yeah for

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 8>his college coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do we start clamoring for or fighting for

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>the injustice of I don't know that is so. I

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know where that came from. Well, I mean, I

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 3>know it came from Paul, but I'm not sure why. Well,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.479
<v Speaker 3>he's not in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 8>This goes back to Harbor though, because let's say, Harbaugh

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 8>coaches in the pros. It does a nice job with

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 8>the Chargers but doesn't win a title, he might go

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 8>in neither Hall of Fame.

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if he goes in, it would be

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 2>the college Hall of Fame.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 8>But if there was a combined football Hall of Fame.

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Pete Carroll's not going into the Pro Football Hall

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 2>of Fame. Wow, I don't think.

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 8>But I mean, is he if he had two, if

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 8>they ran the ball, they.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Would well maybe if it Look, you got Mike Tomlin

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 2>who's going in. Bill Cowher went in. So yeah, maybe

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Pete is a Pro Football Hall of Famer.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 8>But if it were just football Hall of Fame, Pete

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 8>Carroll's in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, But is he in the college Football Hall

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 2>of Fame with what he did at USC And do

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I factor in what he didn't do in the NFL

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 2>with two other stops with the Jets, and so I

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Let them all in, Let everybody in. We

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 2>want Christian Lightner. That's our crusade to get Christian Laightner

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>in the Basketball Hall of nobody's doing that, man, No,

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 2>they aren't good. Oh, I'm hearing from some buddies in Seattle.

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Are you drunk now, I'm not. Pete Carroll's a Hall

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of Famer, all right. Is Russell Wilson a Hall of Famer?

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<v Speaker 7>Huh uh