1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Morenita, a deep dive into the Latin X experience. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: With more Anita, we want to create a community and 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: a shared space with you while sharing knowledge and inspiration. 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: This show is about celebrating our culture with guests who 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: exemplify the best of us. I'm Darrylene Gastillo, Ethane Beatle Bueno. 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: ME hint that today we have someone whom I call 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: a friend and whom I've had the absolute pleasure of 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: working with, Ruben J. Gotabaja. We are talking about life 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: after Hamilton's the Musical. He has just closed the Company 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: of Eliza in Los Angeles, and some of the questions 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: that we get as performers after closing a show is 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: now what The question can be daunting for some and 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: exciting for others. Now, if you don't know, or maybe 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: been living under iraq, Hamilton's the Musical is the hottest 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: ticket out on Broadway to this day. It has been 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: for seven years now. You might have seen it on 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Disney Plus as they released a film version of the 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: musical during the pandemic. And if you haven't seen it, 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: what are you waiting for? I highly recommend it and listen. 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a bit biased as I've been in the 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: musical myself. Reuben and I are now going through life 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: after Hamilton's and trust me, we got a lot to 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: say about it. Hamilton's in the world of performing is 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: considered the golden ticket, the thing on your resume that 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: will lift you to levels in this industry that can 26 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: change your life. Speaking of Hamilton's changing lives, Arianna Debos, 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: a fellow Afro Latina who just won the Oscar for 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actress for her portrayal of Anita and West 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Side Story, is one of the many performers that came 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: from Hamilton's original Broadway company and is now reaping the 31 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: many benefits that come from being in this iconic show. 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: We love to see our people win, so a huge 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: congrats to Ariana and maybe she'll come on What Anita 34 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: to share her story. There have been so many other 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: incredible people who have grown through Hambleton's d V Digs 36 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Jazz and Cepha Jones, and even the man himself, the creator, 37 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Lynn Manuel Miranda. With Hamilton's becoming such a huge phenomenon, 38 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Lynn was even able to bring one of his older 39 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: stage pieces to the screen. Maybe you've heard of in 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: the Heights that was recently all the Rave. Now, what 41 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: some of you might not know about the life of 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: being an actor is after you finish a gig, it's 43 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: not all rainbows and butterflies, even with a big gas 44 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: gig like Hamilton's. And I've been thinking about this since 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: my conversation with Ruben. Being an actor is like playing 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Monopoly constantly. Maybe that's why it's one of my favorite games. 47 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: You start at Go, end up at a train station 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: or Park Avenue sometimes, then pass Go and collect two 49 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollars and start again. Ruben and I are both 50 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: living our lives playing our Monopoly game after Hamilton's the Musical, 51 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: and we are both at different stages. Ruben is just 52 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: beginning at Go since the closing of the Eliza Company 53 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and I bout out in from the 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Philip Company. I haven't hit Park Avenue yet, and that's okay, 55 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: because you bet I will. But I've been hitting other places. 56 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Being here with you guys on mo Anita is one 57 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: of them. Starring in plays, making my TV debuts, and auditioning. 58 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: It's a NonStop job and it takes a lot of courage, consistency, determination, 59 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: and faith. That's why I'm so excited to share this 60 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: conversation with you all. You've probably wondered what's next about 61 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: your favorite actor or artist. I mean, you've probably wondered 62 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: for yourself what's next, whether you're not an artist, and 63 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: maybe you've had that feeling of what do I do 64 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: now in taking the next steps in your life. Well, 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm here to give you an inside look on what 66 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: that could be and what that could look like for 67 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: someone in the industry such as Reuben and myself. Give 68 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: you an insight of where Reuben currently is, what's been 69 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: important to him after Hamilton's, his experience in the many 70 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: productions he has been in, and his view on life 71 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: as an actor but also as a family man, and 72 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: how that experience has been After Hambleton's step into the 73 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Room where it happens, you see what I did there, 74 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: or more like the room where it happened, and get 75 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: ready to dive into life after Hamilton's Ruben, my man, 76 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: what's going on? What is uh? It's been so long, 77 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: too long, It's crazy. So um Reuben and I, as 78 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned before, we got the absolute pleasure of performing 79 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: in Hamilton's The Music Altogether, and Um Reuben has just 80 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: finished his Gosh, how long have you been doing Hamilton's. 81 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I always say like it was like my last year 82 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: with Hamilton. I called it senior year because it was 83 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: like my fourth technically like my fourth year doing the show, 84 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: but I was employed for five years because of everything 85 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: that happened, So it's basically the fifth year senior. So 86 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: I like completed a course of Hamilton's. I mean you graduated, 87 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: you officially graduated. UM. Reuben had just closed the leg 88 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: of the tour of UM Well, I guess not the 89 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: tour the sit down of Los Angeles UM and that 90 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: tour that that sit down was called the Eliza Company. Yeah, 91 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: the Eliza Tour Company. You know. I mean, I know 92 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: your experience with Aunt Peggy, but I just want to 93 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: hear about, like your experience in Hamilton's for you personally, 94 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: and what that was like for you and being in 95 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: that environment as a Latino. I mean, there's so many 96 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: layers to it, because you know, we both got to 97 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: go to Puerto Rico, and I just want to hear 98 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: from you, like what was your experience? Tell us what 99 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: you did there. But listen, man, it was a whirlwind 100 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: and it went by in the blink of an eye, 101 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: Like I can't believe I'm sitting here, and it's like 102 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I just started with 103 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, it's crazy because I remember for about 104 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: a year, I was like manifesting all the time, I'm 105 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: going to be in the show Homey in the show, 106 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: And then I got in and it's like, oh damn, 107 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: Like my one of my dreams came true. Like what 108 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: do I do now? You know what I mean? So 109 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: being in that show, I think has really been a 110 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: great foundation for what I believe my career to be. 111 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'll be doing in five ten years. 112 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll be in the business, but 113 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: I know that whatever I do, I'm going to hold 114 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: that experience close to my heart because it challenged me 115 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: as an actor. As a person, it challenged my relationships, 116 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Like I am a better person because of what I 117 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: went through with the show. And I mean, like you 118 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: like you touched on just you know, being a Latino, 119 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: being a person of color, and to be in one 120 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: of the biggest shows like that doesn't happen very often. 121 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen where you know people of color are 122 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: are it? You know what I mean, at least at 123 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: least not up to up to around this point, like 124 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, now people are like, okay, they're marketable. Like 125 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: before it was like, are we really going to take 126 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: a chance on someone who looks like me, who looks 127 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: like you, you know what I mean? And so I 128 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: think more than anything like it just it gave me 129 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: like the validation that I needed as like a young 130 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: aspiring actor to be like, you have a place in 131 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: this business, in the industry, and uh, you know, man, 132 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: I seriously can't believe that. It's it's been so long 133 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: life after Hamilton's, Like, what is happening for you? Now? 134 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: How has Hambleton's impacted your career and your life today? 135 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: It's given me a big confidence boost, um, no doubt 136 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: about that. Um. It has opened some doors for me. 137 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, one of the biggest like 138 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: assumptions that people make is like just because you book 139 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: one thing, that you're going to have no problem booking 140 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: until you don't want to book anymore. And that's just 141 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: not the case. Like there's just so many talented, good 142 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: people out there that it's like, yeah, like you know, 143 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: I believe myself and I believe that I'm talented, But 144 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: am I right for every project? No? That's just I'm 145 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: not so what now, man, It's it's going to be 146 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a journey. And like I I know that it's like 147 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: an uphill climb. Every day it's like, Okay, wake up, 148 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: check my email. So I have an audition today? No, 149 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: like most of the time, I don't. So it's like 150 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: what do I do in between those auditions so that 151 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: when that audition comes, I'm as prepared as I can be. Um, 152 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: the projects that are for me are the ones that 153 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: I will be and I can't force anything. Yeah, you're 154 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: talking about like this uphill climb. I think anybody can 155 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: relate to in any format, like not only our industry 156 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: and entertainment industry, but also like whatever job you've had, Right, 157 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about for you, like the 158 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: in between and the filling in time. What has that 159 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: been for you, and like what are the things that 160 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: like now your life outside of Hamilton's You're like, oh, 161 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: this is the this is important to me. This is 162 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: what I want to do now that you have the 163 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: time to do that. I think really just like working 164 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: on myself and I said about like having that self 165 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: awareness and I feel like before you can try and 166 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, step into a character's shoes, like, you have 167 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: to know who you are as a person. And I 168 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: believe that, and I I'm like striving to do that 169 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: more and more every day, whether that's through you know, 170 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: being uh a partner in a in a relationship, or 171 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: like being a good son, or like being a good 172 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: big brother, being a good dad to my dog, like 173 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's all part of 174 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: it's all part of like becoming a better me. Right, 175 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: And UM, I'm just gonna do a little hint on this. Um, 176 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: congratulations on your engagement, Ruben Rubin did it? You proposed 177 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: to his fiance. Um, And not only that, but you 178 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: bought a house. And I want to like dive in 179 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: on that with you because that's not something that you 180 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: normally see not only in our age range right now currently, 181 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: but especially in our community. And I just want to 182 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: know about that decision. I know that you and I 183 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: personally talked about this on the road a little bit, 184 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: our goals and what you and I were focusing on, 185 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: and that's something that we shared. But what was that 186 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: for you? Is that something that your family was pushing 187 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: you towards like how where did that? When did that 188 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: seed get planted for you? I definitely think it was 189 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: at an early age um, because I remember I did 190 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: a little bit of TV film when I was growing up, 191 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: like from Mages five to about thirteen, Like I was 192 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: out here auditioning, grinding. I was like booking things, and 193 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, I made a nice little stack of coin 194 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: and like I remember, uh, it was in like a 195 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: bank account that I couldn't touch into. I was eighteen, 196 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: and you know, growing up as a teenager, like I 197 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: can't wait to get my hands on some money, Like well, 198 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm about clothes all this stuff, and I just tund 199 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: my parents being like, you know, when you turn a team, 200 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: like that money is yours. You could do whatever you 201 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: want with it. They're like, our advice is just be 202 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: careful with it. Like it's that kind of money is 203 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: not always going to be available to you, so like 204 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: really whole onto that. And I remember them specifically saying, 205 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: like you might want to use that on like a 206 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: gall payment for like a house or something like that. 207 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: But I think in the back of my mind, I 208 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: always knew that my goal was to buy a house 209 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: and like buy property and like, you know, lay down 210 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: some some roots and foundation um in l A because 211 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where I'm from and that's where 212 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I want to be. Ultimately, we got lucky, we got 213 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: blessed um and now we're just a couple of blocks 214 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: from my parents house so I can Oh my god. 215 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: I love that. After life and being in Hamilton's, people 216 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: are always hyping us right there, like Hay Hamilton's this 217 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: is the mecca, this is the it, like what are 218 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: you going to do after Hamilton's? And and and that question 219 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: always like I think irks us as actors a little bit. Um, 220 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: But how do you deal with that kind of question 221 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: when people are like, well, this is it? Like okay, 222 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: like what what are you going to do? I feel 223 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: like it's kind of similar, um two, like you can 224 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: really related to a lot of different industries and like, uh, 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, job types, and just because we're actors doesn't 226 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: mean like that one can't have job stability because look, 227 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: I worked for a show for five years and I 228 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: although although the show closed, like I feel like I 229 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: ended on my own terms and like I'm ready to 230 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: jump into something new. I feel like a lot of 231 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: times we as actors, people um assume that we're like 232 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: kind of powerless and we're like at the mercy of 233 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: like our agents or like whoever is hiring. And while 234 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like that can be true, Um, you know, 235 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a decision ultimately up to you, 236 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: like of what kind of auditions you want to go 237 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: in for. And so all that to say, I feel 238 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: like that question of like what's next, I have learned 239 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: two kind of reduced the impact that it has on 240 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: me and my like self worth, because I could turn 241 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: around and ask anybody else, like what's what's next for you? Like, Okay, 242 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: so you work at you know, this insurance agency, So 243 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: what's next? And they're like, I mean, I don't know, 244 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm kind of just at this. I'm like okay, 245 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, a lot of people 246 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: like they want to hear like I'm gonna book this movie. 247 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: It's like okay, well, baby steps, Like let me book 248 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: a couple of guest stars, let me do this, let 249 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: me do that, let me you don't have to like 250 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: book the biggest thing right off the bat. And like 251 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: there's still like regional, good regional theater out there that 252 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: that actors can work in and it's like, just because 253 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm not booking the next award winning film doesn't mean 254 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: that I'm not a successful actor. And I feel like 255 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: that's what people miss the most that aren't in the industry. 256 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: It's like the question of like, well, have I seen 257 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: you in anything? No? But have I seen you in anything? Like? 258 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Come on, bro, you know what I mean. So I've learned. 259 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, the people that don't know what this industry 260 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: is like, they probably mean no harm, but that the 261 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: question often does do more harm than good. It's like, yeah, 262 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I know I'm unemployed, but I'm working on it right, 263 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: And as you said, it's like baby steps. And there's 264 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: one thing that I love that you mentioned is that 265 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: you have to grow as a person within yourself for 266 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: you to even be ready for like that next opportunity 267 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: that is coming. Right. So like you're getting your I mean, 268 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: you're getting your ship together, right, You're getting you have 269 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: a you have your house, you have your fiance, you're 270 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: about to have a wedding. And then on top of that, 271 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to like move in together and learn 272 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: each other on that level and deal with like some 273 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: life ship and maybe in the midst of all of that, 274 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: then you like book your your TV thing or your 275 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: movie thing or the next Hambleton's, the next Hamilton's gig. Um, 276 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: would you say now that with Hamilton's the roles and 277 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the things that you're going in for, like that's been 278 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: helpful for you, um, and the things that you're auditioning 279 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: for right now that it's really rubbing you up for 280 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: for that TV film or would you say, you know what, 281 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: like Hamilton's really doesn't matter on my resume? Like how 282 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: how what is your experience? Because it's different for everybody. 283 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean look at Ariana Ariana Debose Hello. I mean, 284 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: girl is in the ensemble, she's the bullet and then 285 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: now she's an Oscar actress. Um where I don't know 286 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: if acting was ever her forefront. I mean what I've 287 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: spoken with her a few times like I don't think 288 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: that was the forefront. But this dancer is now an 289 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: Oscar Award winning actor. Like do you I mean that's 290 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: a whole different, you know, level of that, but it's 291 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: like do you do you feel that like Hamilton's on 292 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: on your thing has been like helping you get into 293 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: the doors or maybe is it not help Um? I 294 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: definitely think that, you know it, it helps me get noticed, 295 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not I'm not in the in 296 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: the room when my agent is pitching me for certain things. 297 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: But I will say, like there have been some like 298 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: very prominent roles that have come across my email and 299 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: like that I've submitted for and granted I haven't booked 300 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: any of those, but I like where I where I 301 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: am now post Hamilton's having that experience and what I'm 302 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: auditioning for now as opposed to before Hamilton's what I 303 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was auditioning for. It is a big difference. It is 304 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: a big difference, and I feel like I feel like 305 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: it is. It's been kind of a wake up call 306 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: because I'm like, man, like I'm not just like auditioning 307 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: for man number three on the train and like I'm 308 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: not like I'm auditioning for a lead character in it 309 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: for a series regular like or for this movie. And 310 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: it's like I have to get my ship together. Like 311 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: I granted what I said, like, um, what what is 312 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: for me is for me and what's not is not 313 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: and that that is all true. And at the same time, um, 314 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: I have like I have to bring my a game 315 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: and show whoever is watching these tapes, which kind of 316 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: I hope they're watching them because we're doing so much. 317 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: But whoever is watching them sees something in me, and 318 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's really all it takes. So um yeah, 319 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: at first, when I started auditioning again, I was like, damn, 320 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Like I feel this is like daunting. But then the 321 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: more I've been doing it, the more I've been hearing 322 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: good feedback, It's like, okay, like I'm I'm putting in 323 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: my work and um, you know, hopefully somebody will notice that. 324 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: But I'm feeling better and better about my auditions. And 325 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: so I feel like having Hamilton on my resume helps, 326 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: but only to a certain extent. Like it can't. It's 327 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: not going to book me anything right now, which is fine, 328 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: right the world of auditioning, Let's tap into that for 329 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: a second, because I don't think a lot of our listeners, 330 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: well maybe some of them who are in the industry, 331 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: we might know, um, but it's and for those who 332 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: don't like it's that's a whole different skill within itself. 333 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: And um, I know that while we were on the 334 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: road or what not, you know, like when you were 335 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: in Hamilton's in l a. Were you able to even 336 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: audition for things? And how did that impact you coming out? 337 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Because I remember I touring, I could not really audition 338 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: for anything. So it's almost like Hamilton's a great thing 339 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: to have on your resume, but then while you're in it, 340 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: you can't you can't really get out, and that is 341 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: something that people don't understand. People think like, oh, you're 342 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: in Hamilton's, like you're gonna you're gonna hit this and 343 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: hit that. Like what was that like for you, especially 344 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: being in Los Angeles, being in your hometown, you know, 345 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Hollywood itself, because I can also be really disheartening and 346 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: you're in l A. You're feeling everybody else, but you're 347 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: doing Hamilton's again for your senior year. Well you're extra 348 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: senior year, Like what was that for you? Yeah? I 349 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: think it's it's definitely a mix between like feeling motivated 350 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: at times and then also feeling like I'm not getting 351 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: anywhere and you know, um, like you said, like it's 352 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to have your job and then 353 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: already trying to be looking for another job, and it's 354 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: like I want to as an actor who respects my 355 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: craft and the craft of those around me. I want 356 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: to be able to dedicate all of my energy towards 357 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: this one thing, but at the same time, like I 358 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: have to see what's next, and in doing that, nothing 359 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: is really landing. So like where am I at? Like 360 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: what where is my energy going towards? And where is 361 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: my energy best served? Um? And for me, I think 362 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: I always felt that my energy was best served in 363 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the present, and so you know, at that time, that 364 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: meant showing up to work with a good attitude and 365 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: like knowing that I was doing the best that I 366 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: could on stage every night. And then when an audition 367 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: came through, it's like, Okay, I need to allocate X 368 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: amount of energy for for this audition, but I need 369 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: to like keep a reserve of this greater amount of 370 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: energy so that I can do my job and you know, 371 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: be present for my fellow actors and so um yeah, 372 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: it's it's such a hard balance, um and one that 373 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't really have to do in this 374 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: moment um. But then in turn, it kind of does 375 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: like hikeen every audition because I'm like, until I booked 376 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: that next gig, I don't have anything going on, whereas 377 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: before it's like at least, you know, I didn't book it, 378 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: but at least I have Hamilton's. It's like now like yeah, 379 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: so now it's trying to pull up the book especially, 380 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean not like I mentioned before, like I got 381 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: that mortgage payment and it's like the first of the month. 382 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Is it never fails. It's gonna hit for thirty years, 383 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: so be ready. So on top of like I know, 384 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of other passions and things like that, 385 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: is there anything else that you are putting your heart 386 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: into and your soul? Like you know, I relate with 387 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: everything you're saying, and it's like, you know, I have 388 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: I have a lot of as people say, like I 389 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: have a lot of pots on the oven. Is there 390 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: anything else that you're leaning intowards that you're like using 391 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: some of that in between time filling in that time, 392 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: like with another passion, with another thing that you absolutely 393 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: love and you want to pursue while doing your acting career. 394 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Because that's the other thing people don't realize, like actors 395 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: are usually not just actors, right yeah, I mean, um 396 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: this it might not be like a popular thing to say, 397 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: especially in this like grind culture that we have right now, 398 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not really doing too much else, and like 399 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: I I respect the people that do, because man, it 400 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: takes a lot of energy and a lot of just 401 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: like constant, go, go go, And for me, um, I 402 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, like I like to sort of 403 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: conserve that energy and put it into what I'm gonna 404 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: be doing, so that way I can do that to 405 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: the best of my ability. How did your mother influence 406 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: you and shape you? How do you feel that she's 407 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: had an effect on you in your life? I think 408 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is like humility, like being humble, keeping 409 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: my feet on the ground, um, because like as big 410 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: as my as my career is to this point, and 411 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: as big as I believe that it can be, like 412 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: my mom is always like okay, like what you do 413 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: on earth here like that is temporary, but what your 414 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: ultimate goal is like you want you want to be 415 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: in heaven, like you want to be in heaven, and 416 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: like your actions on earth will influence where you end 417 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: up after after this, like temporary life ends and so 418 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: like you know, not to make it sort of like 419 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, dark and stuff, but but it is like 420 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: I I do think about that, and like my my 421 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: parents being religious and like having that lucky know, Catholicism 422 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: instill um from a young age. It's really like, I think, 423 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: what influenced me to be who I am today, And 424 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: what's just what I'm so grateful for is that Jen 425 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: also my fiance, also had that because we kind of 426 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: grew up together. We went kindergarten through eighth grade together, 427 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: the same Catholic school. Her parents are from the same 428 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: state in Mexico that my parents are from, and so 429 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of grew up similarly, um in 430 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: that way, and that has just helped our relationship and 431 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: us as individuals, I think, just like tenfold. Like I 432 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: can't even put into words, um, what that has meant 433 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: for us as individuals and now as a partnership. Yeah, 434 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: I mean that's so important to have that clarity with 435 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: your partner if you're building a foundation, have the same morals, 436 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: have the same background. And I think it's so funny 437 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: how you guys met. I mean, you guys have known 438 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: each other for years and you guys have never dated, 439 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: right or like there was and then all of a 440 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: sudden go ahead, Oh, I was just gonna say, like 441 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: I Jen was the first girl I had a crush on, 442 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: like kindergarten crushed like crushing, and just so just so 443 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: everybody knows, Ruben is blushing right now. I am. I 444 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: love talking about it, but I'm just saying, like kindergarten 445 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: to eighth grade like the fattest crush like always, um, 446 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: and it just never never banned out. No, I wasn't 447 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: who I am today, And especially like in high school 448 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: when I was like, you know, I was like trying 449 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: to date, trying to date here and she was like 450 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: no please, and she was like no please. You know, um, 451 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: life life, I had to like run my course and 452 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: I had to like take my own path and she 453 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: did too, and ultimately, like that path led us to 454 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: each other. Proven I got some questions for you, Bratt. Okay, 455 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: first off, I want to know what do you like 456 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: binge watching right now on Netflix or on Hulu or 457 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: on whatever. Just so many um what am I binge watching? 458 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm a little okay, I'm a little embarrassed to admit this. 459 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: It's okay, we don't judge here on what I meet 460 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: that I told you, But like I I need like 461 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: a constant stream of like a show, so in like 462 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: a long running show, so it's like friends, the Office. 463 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: So I was done with those and I was like, 464 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: I need something else. So I've been watching How I 465 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: Met Your Mother and I won the last season, and 466 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's getting pretty crazy. So other than that, 467 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: like I'll pop in and like watch like a little 468 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: like Tender Swingler or like a little movie here and there. 469 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: But that's like my concert right now, is I Met 470 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: Your Mother? Okay, Okay, that's a good one. We love 471 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: Neil Patrick, Harris and pH shout out, um, who's the 472 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: most famous person you have a picture with on your phone? 473 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: This is a good one because I have a feeling 474 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: who's the most famous though that's pretty subjective, but you know, 475 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: because because I'm in l A, I'm gonna go ahead 476 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: and say Kobe. Oh alright, damn yeah, that's a I 477 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: think I've seen that one on Instagram. You guys, who 478 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: are you going to say? I don't know, man, I 479 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: mean we've met some famous people. In part. I thought 480 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: you said you had like an idea of who I 481 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: was going to say. I mean I did, but now 482 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: you kind of I forgot about Kobe, but I remember 483 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: it now and now that you said Kobe, I'm like, oh, duh, yeah, 484 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: of course, I think, all right, if you had to 485 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: give up your favorite food or your favorite music, which 486 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: one would it be? I know it always this question 487 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: always hits the Latinos extra hard. On one hand, Like 488 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: I was going to say just favorite food because I 489 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: feel like favorite music I couldn't live without. But then 490 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm like thinking about like backles, like you know what, 491 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I value my sense of taste over 492 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: my sense of hearing. So I'm gonna say I want 493 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: to keep the food. Sorry to the music, Sorry music. Sorry, 494 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: this is dark. This is a dark moment um. All right, 495 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: your last question here, Actually I'm I'm lying. I'm lying. 496 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some extra ones and we have 497 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: some some stuff to choose from. What's your favorite podcast? 498 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: And why is it more to eat that? Look, I 499 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: love the inclusivity, I love what you're doing. You're You're 500 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people, and I think like to 501 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: have this conversation, Um, it was like long passdo I 502 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: feel like we're not even recording, Like I feel like 503 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: this is a conversation that you and I could have 504 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: just had at any point in the past few years, 505 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Like this is You're so natural and I'm just so 506 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: grateful for you. Oh because big hug, big hug. Um 507 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: all right. And lastly, what is the one thing that 508 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: reminds you most of home? However, it is that you 509 00:29:49,760 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: define home family. I need you were going to say that, Hey, unpredictable. 510 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: What I mean it from the heart, Ruben, thank you 511 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: so much for coming to more Anita. Thank you for being, 512 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: um so open with us and talking about your experience 513 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: and your family, and um, you are such an incredible 514 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: young man. Um. I'm grateful to call you a friend 515 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: of mine and a colleague. And um, I can't wait 516 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: for us to work together again and see each other 517 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: again at some point. Um yo, that wedding man, that 518 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: what he's gonna be Lime. I'm so excited for you, man, 519 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for your life and your journey ahead 520 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: of you. And if we want to follow you and 521 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: see where you're heading and everything you're doing, where can 522 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: we follow you on? I'm on Instagram with Twitter at 523 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Ruben Jay Carba Hall. Yeah awesome. And he's and you've 524 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: got a big voice on there. He out there tweeting, 525 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: out there talking to people. Do you guys got anything 526 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: to say to Ruben? He will respond to you. He 527 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: is such I don't know, man, You're just so humble 528 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: and so um gracious and appreciate you. Thank you for 529 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: your time. Yea mon Anita is a production of Sonorto 530 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: and partnership with I Heart Radios Michael Kuda podcast Network. 531 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit the I 532 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to 533 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.