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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers at Law.

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Speaker 1: We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one Monday is Blue.

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Speaker 1: Alongside of me is the world famous Joe Grande. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, it took pleasure and Mr world Famous Craig

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Speaker 1: Wasserman from The Pot Brothers out of Law missing today

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Speaker 1: as Mr Little Brother. We do miss him as he's

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Speaker 1: out there surfing in he's surfing. I seen him with

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Speaker 1: the shirt off yesterday. He had his shirt off. He

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Speaker 1: was trying to go live with the shirt off. People

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Speaker 1: calling him cast for the Friendly Joe And they said

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Speaker 1: he had a machete and all kinds of with uh, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a machete under those shorts. It

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Speaker 1: was fun either way. We had a big brother here

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Speaker 1: today on the show, we have a brother from Oakland

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Speaker 1: who I love like my own brother. We've never slapped hands,

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Speaker 1: or maybe we did back in the day, but I

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Speaker 1: was so high, and maybe we're at the sound factory

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Speaker 1: somewhere else and I can't recall. But Tucky Blunt a

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Speaker 1: k A. Government name Alfonso. He's the co owner of

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Speaker 1: Blunts and More and Proud Papa's Clothing. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: what's dope about this cat. He's the first person to

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Speaker 1: open a dispensary in Oakland under the Social Equity Act.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, is it Oakland? Are the

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Speaker 1: world the world? Yes, the first person in the world open.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that story. If you want to

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Speaker 1: check them out on Instagram, it's Tucky Blunt eighty on

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Speaker 1: Twitter Blunt Tucky. Um, we're gonna talk about black ownership

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Speaker 1: and cannabis and and welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh

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Speaker 1: one sir. How you doing, brother man man, thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me. It's honor and a privilege. So I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I'm a static. Actually, it's really good. I've loved seeing

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Speaker 1: you interview with our brother sway and doing your thing

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Speaker 1: there and all over the globe, getting all your national recognition.

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Speaker 1: But one thing off top is, you know you get

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Speaker 1: popped back in the day, and to be a social

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Speaker 1: equity owner you have to have a criminal record. When

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Speaker 1: I did the research, John, you dog to think you

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Speaker 1: got busted for eighty dollars. We're the weed man. That's

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Speaker 1: what gave me the record. Let's talk about that. Um

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Speaker 1: So that particular day, how they came about an hour earlier,

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Speaker 1: total different circumstances, but but that particular day shooting range. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I came a little earlier, but um, I was

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Speaker 1: getting back from the shooting range. I had a thing

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Speaker 1: We would always go to the shooting range after we

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Speaker 1: did our transactions or whatever. And he dropped me off

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Speaker 1: like normal. Not even three minutes later, cop pull up,

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Speaker 1: We heard your car your description has a gun and

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Speaker 1: So long story short, I had a gun in the car.

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Speaker 1: Uh ten years of feling in probation. For eighty dollars

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Speaker 1: of the things Oakland, you know, speaking of Oakland's at

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Speaker 1: on uh where Osterdam University is or was, Yeah, right

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Speaker 1: So that that dispensary. Man, I went there one time.

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Speaker 1: about your five kids, man, oh man, what do you say?

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Speaker 1: not been for that bust? No, I wouldn't be no,

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Speaker 1: nine years with no police interaction. Because of how I

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Speaker 1: sold my weed, I would never the man. But I was,

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Speaker 1: oh man, you know what I'm saying. So I would

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Speaker 1: A lot of people do that. Blunts and more is

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Speaker 1: your is your dispensary, and you also have uh the

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Speaker 1: a minute. Let's you know, I believe you guys do

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Speaker 1: bit about that. Okay. So Proud Papas was something I

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Speaker 1: So I googled black father silhouettes. Everything you can tell

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Speaker 1: was like, what can I do about that? Created proud Papas,

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Speaker 1: made a silhouette. Do the movement, help fathers fill out

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Speaker 1: We are with Tuckie Blunt. Tucky Blunts Tucky blunts like

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Speaker 1: I need to do? So break down for the listener

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Speaker 1: that's out there that's going damn, I got a record,

428
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Speaker 1: people are approaching me or I want to get in

429
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Speaker 1: the game, lace us up. Okay, So give me a minute,

430
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: because this is like a couple of parted. Answer one,

431
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Speaker 1: as far as everybody getting reform, everybody get out of

432
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: jail for cannabis has to happen. They gotta get out.

433
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: But that also comes with us voting in the right

434
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Speaker 1: elections and not just in the ones we think we

435
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Speaker 1: posed a voting. You gotta vote for your city councils, mayors,

436
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: and people have to understand that the bottom up, all people, black, white, pink, whatever,

437
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: we all have to do that for wherever we Votecuse

438
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 1: by time it gets to the presidential too late, even

439
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: though you still gotta vote, but by then that this

440
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: is already made. You know. What I'm saying's kind of

441
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: like whatever, Well, that's part of it too. If you

442
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Speaker 1: want to get in this space, really want to be

443
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Speaker 1: in this space. What I mean by that is, yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: free everybody that's been locked up for it. But do

445
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: I want everybody's locked up ford to come into the

446
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: space and everybody's not gonna approach this like a business,

447
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: then funk it up, get closed, lose money, going dead,

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: and then that's gonna be what the rest of the

449
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: community talks about. Look at that black person in the

450
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: cannabis space. We told you this was gonna happen. So

451
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: if you are going to get into space, go to

452
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: your oaksterra damns, get your learning, get your certificates, you know,

453
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: reach out and get training on the field you want

454
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: to be in. But also don't come in here thinking

455
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna open a dispensary and everyone's gonna grow weak.

456
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: One or two of the hardest things to do in

457
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Speaker 1: the cannabis space anywhere, whether it's legal or illegal, is

458
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: growing and sale weed. So if you think that you

459
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: could just get into that, don't. Don't. Don't come in

460
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: expecting to get into that. No. I not like to

461
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: kill anyone's dreams, but you have to be real, Like

462
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: everyone wants to go on sale. That's the main question

463
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Speaker 1: I get, Like can we grow and say? No, everyone

464
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: can't grow and sale. Learn how to make the lights

465
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Speaker 1: that go in the dispensaries, I mean, learn how to

466
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Speaker 1: do security, learn how to do the deliveries. It's learn

467
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Speaker 1: out of the host podcast about we like, there's other

468
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: stuff that you can do. So my main thought when

469
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: I tell people they want to get in it is

470
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: make sure they really want to get in it through

471
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Speaker 1: the train and the text to be in it, and

472
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Speaker 1: then then we see what happens, you know what I mean.

473
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Speaker 1: But you got a lot of people are just gonna

474
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Speaker 1: get out and jump in the game. I believe that's

475
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Speaker 1: gonna sunk us up. It's gonna have a negative effect. Yeah,

476
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: we we see that all the time. And it's funny

477
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Speaker 1: you say about dream killing. That's what we called ourselves

478
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Speaker 1: in Uh. In eighteen when the REGs came into play

479
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: and people would come in for a consult about getting

480
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Speaker 1: into the business and they were getting out of the

481
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Speaker 1: the illicit market at that point, or even the legal

482
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: cooperative market back then. And we'd say, look, it's it's

483
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot different, you know, eyes wide open. It's just

484
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be what you think it is. You can't

485
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: just come in and for you know, twenty grand open

486
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Speaker 1: up a store. You know, you gotta have a half

487
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: a million dollars. You gotta have the business sense, you

488
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: gotta have a team, you gotta have a c p A.

489
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: You gotta have the right law, you gotta have the

490
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Speaker 1: right compliance team. It's just not as easy as you think.

491
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Speaker 1: And uh and we've probably turned away, not turned away,

492
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Speaker 1: probably made more people run away then we've taken in,

493
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Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, talking lots of fluff and

494
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Speaker 1: just you know, retaining anybody want to pay. Guess what,

495
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: and not to cut you off, but guess what, that's

496
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Speaker 1: a good thing because they weren't ready to be in

497
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Speaker 1: the business. That's all. All the stuff you named off

498
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: are things that you're gonna need to run a successful business.

499
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Speaker 1: So if that runs you off, then you don't need

500
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Speaker 1: to be in this business. It's okay with I agree,

501
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Speaker 1: I mean I agree, and and that we we never

502
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Speaker 1: we never the harsh reality. We never wavered from that,

503
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: even though people were will and there were other attorneys

504
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: taking money from people who wanted to get in it

505
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: without giving them that eyes wide open talk. And we

506
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: just you know, there's not something we wanted to do

507
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Speaker 1: because I didn't want to get into you know, grand

508
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Speaker 1: into it and all of a sudden, this isn't gonna happen.

509
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: That's not how we you know, how we did things.

510
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Speaker 1: So uh. And and then as far as the social

511
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Speaker 1: equity applicants, all of them we've done. I wouldn't say

512
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Speaker 1: pro bono. It's one of the we we've done those

513
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: things where it's if you get successful in this deal,

514
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: you know, take care of us down the road. But

515
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: until then, we're gonna give you the support and backing.

516
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Speaker 1: And we have about six or seven people that we

517
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: chose to work with that otherwise they wouldn't have any

518
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Speaker 1: type of access to legal support or and especially going

519
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Speaker 1: through the operating agreements and all those corporate documents that

520
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: all these people were thrown at these guys, and they

521
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: had no clue. Well, I think there's a huge garbage,

522
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: like I have contracts, we have like you know, most

523
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: of that ship's a bunch of bullshit. It's like, okay,

524
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Speaker 1: just like put it in a one give me a

525
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: one page that's us this, this, this. But you know

526
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: that's another way to throw people off. If you're not

527
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: willing to read that. Oh you may not be willing

528
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: to do it. Sign deals that you don't realize have

529
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: you exed out by page three? You know what I'm saying.

530
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: So that's that's the education piece, you know what I'm saying,

531
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: Like and it's it's you. You would think it would

532
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: be a logical thing to do. But again, we are

533
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: dealing with an industry that is being ran by people

534
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: not in the industry. Yeah, they're they're using they're using

535
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: LLLC membership transfer agreements that are pages long with crapping

536
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: there that someone else wrote thirty years ago. And they're

537
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: using the same goddamn document over and over and over

538
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: and over. I mean, when you come to us, we'll

539
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: give you a one or two page document. Man, you

540
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: take that to them and say if you don't like it,

541
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Speaker 1: go somewhere else depends what the side of the coin

542
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: you're on, what kind of who's represent people? How hard

543
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: was that chilly for you, Chucky Blunt? As we're talking

544
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: to Chucky but from blunts and more dispensary in oak

545
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: And how hard was that dealing with the do you

546
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: need legal representation? When you're such a smart cat yourself,

547
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: you're looking at this quat man, I can figure this

548
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: ship out myself. Did you still need to search for

549
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: legal counsel? Well, for us another cold situation, part of

550
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: our team is a legal cannabis counsel UH in Florida,

551
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: and Ritney's mom was a cannabis paralegal, so we had

552
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: legal attached to us from the jump, which worked out.

553
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: But I always had questions, you know what I mean.

554
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know legal jargon, so I would be looking

555
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: up words, pulling them out the dictionary, seeing what they meant,

556
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: to find them to the page. And then if I

557
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: had questions, I had in house legal. But that's something

558
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: that I feel the city should provide, and the city

559
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: the Technical assist A program is ran by attorneys. They're

560
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: not cannabis attorneys. It's just like nothing, you know, I think,

561
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: I think what happens is is right now with with

562
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Speaker 1: the social equity, you know, because I spoke to a

563
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Speaker 1: lot of them myself, and they were asking for advice

564
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: and help, and you know I I sat there and

565
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: and some of them had these visions that were unobtainable. So,

566
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: you know, on on one side, I'm like, you know,

567
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: you can't expect someone to drop, you know, ten million

568
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: dollars on you and then let you run the whole

569
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: ten million dollars right without any say so, because that's

570
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: kind of what it what it comes to. And and

571
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, so that's a scary proposition for

572
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: for an investor. You know, I mean I get both sides,

573
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean you have to be predatory. I

574
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: mean the rules of no and I agree with not

575
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: being predatory. But but but there should have been you know,

576
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: doing it the proper way. We would have said, hey,

577
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: if you're gonna spend more than of you know, this

578
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: amount of this million dollars, we need to be you know,

579
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: completely involved in it in those decisions. And then if

580
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: he goes above that, then it goes to this next

581
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: level like a tiered sister there he is, Yeah, that

582
00:28:48,880 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: the baller Okay, okay, sorry y'all from home, right. Uh So,

583
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's it's it's the trip. You say

584
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: that about just you know how everything is, but it's like, man,

585
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's just I don't know, Like how can

586
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: I describe how we had to deal with the legal stuff.

587
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: It was just more so just like, if you've got

588
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: people that you can give some knowledge to and just

589
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: have them understand what they're going into and know their

590
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: worth and know their value, that's just a start, you

591
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's that's that's bare minimums. They

592
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: can be like, okay, cool, You've got some people that

593
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: just are gonna sign a way just they don't care

594
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: and not pay attention. It's money dangling in front of

595
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: them is cool. And these business you know, these sharks

596
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: know that they know that they're gonna find the ones

597
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: that don't care. But what is wrong with you only

598
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: forty percent and still being able to make decisions like

599
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand what is the whole majority

600
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: thing with the big companies? If you know that every

601
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: person to help get your license up and you can

602
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: talk them into having your name on the store and

603
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: still letting you have something from the control. Most of

604
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: these people with don't want the control and don't want

605
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: to be at the or I like to be at

606
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: my store and talk to my customers and do all

607
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: the stuff and learn everything about the business. Sean from

608
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: Bernard's own Hayden Chrisco. He wants to be he the

609
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: general manager. He was like, he wants to be that person.

610
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: Some of them don't. There's nothing wrong with you still

611
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: have me your majority and I'm still doing all the ship.

612
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Like if these other if these bigger companies can understand that.

613
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: But again we're dealing with people that don't understand hustle.

614
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: They'll understand the wig game. They understand none of that ship,

615
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they don't they're not

616
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: thinking that for them two percent, it's not gonna change

617
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: anything because at the end of the day, you can

618
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: write within the contract if you start doing stupid ship,

619
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna say stop doing stupid ship three times and

620
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: then after that we take over. You can put ways

621
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: in there to do what you gotta do, and then

622
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: the person on the other end can throw there, you know,

623
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Speaker 1: go ahead in l A. They can't relinquish their ownership

624
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: to the to the non social equity partner. I mean

625
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: they've the way they've made the rules, it makes it

626
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: really tough on a you know, company that wants coming

627
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: in to invest. Uh. And uh it just like like

628
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: you've been saying, though the people who made up all

629
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: these rules, it sounds good the social equity statard that

630
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: helping people out, but they're not. They're not. They're not

631
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: doing it in a way that's really practical and how

632
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: people are gonna come out. And I think I really

633
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: like your angle too as far as if you're gonna

634
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: have these programs, I mean, make sure that it's really

635
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: set up so a black person, person of color can

636
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: be successful so you don't get that negative stigma if

637
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: something goes down, like you were saying earlier that you

638
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: just don't want you know, you don't want failures because

639
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't done properly, and then you're gonna look, we

640
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: told you waste the money, blah blah blah whatever you

641
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: said earlier. And uh, I think that's really important. But

642
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: the legislators, and I like what you said to about

643
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: voting from the city council up because the city council

644
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: actually is the most the biggest, that's one of the

645
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: most vital pieces of the government. Like I remember going

646
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: to school here about checks and balancing and known the

647
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: legislator from the official frands, like, you have to start

648
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: at the local level to help craft the rest of

649
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: the tree. But I don't I don't know if this

650
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: is something that's totally all subject, but I think it's

651
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: something that's going on nationwide. We're gonna they're not teaching

652
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: our kids. It's just ignorance of never being able to

653
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: learn it. So what I mean, because it's in cannabis especially,

654
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I want to vote, especially especially in California. The uh,

655
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: everything starts at the city level, right if the city

656
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: council has to have to pass an ordinance allowing for

657
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: cannabis in that city, or the people of the city

658
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: have to pass an initiatives the governor or something. So

659
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure we vote for the governor. No, no, no, yeah,

660
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: you gotta go in city council. People are are they

661
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: behind the cannabis? And we gotta get the people out

662
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: there and vote. We gotta we we got what we

663
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: call smoke the vote. People gotta get out there and vote.

664
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: Every top hip hop artist. I've been bitching about this

665
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: for three years. They should be blasted out voting. Go

666
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: vote for a cannabis friendly and and every week on

667
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: this show I come up with in in some city state,

668
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: at the city, state or federal level. There's all kinds

669
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: of candidates who are coming out in favor of legalizing

670
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: cannabis in their campaign information not hidden in the back,

671
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: not you know, I don't want to really talk about it,

672
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: but I'm for it. But literally, in your face, I'm

673
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: smoking a joint as a candidate. And there's just so

674
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: many people out there like that. We need to get

675
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: everybody out to vote. And I'll get off my host

676
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: I can speak on the rappers and why some do

677
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: some don't, but I can speak on me. I'll be goddamn.

678
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything in my power so people can

679
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: see people like us are willing to vote, are trying

680
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: to put the right people to office, are willing to

681
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: talk about what needs to be done in the spaceboy,

682
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: putting the right people in the space. I don't have

683
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: no like leash because it's me. I'm being genuinely me,

684
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not disrespecting anybody I'm just calling how it

685
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: needs to be called based on my experience selling cannabis.

686
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: So I was sixteen in East open So a lot

687
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: of my trades they may come off of cool cool

688
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: or he's being an asshole. I don't give a funk

689
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: because the ship has to be said so people can understand,

690
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: like it could be done in a certain way and

691
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: all this could be right and want to be me.

692
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't have to be doing making. I want to

693
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: get into that East you know East Oakland growing up

694
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: because I'm from the Bay as well, right, so we've

695
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: crossed paths, have mutual friends and growing up in East

696
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: Oakland or Oakland period being black. If you know Oakland,

697
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: you know Grape Street and you know the brothers out there.

698
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't crips and bloods. It was Grape Street. And

699
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: you know you go to the lake and how did

700
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: you deal with selling weed and that mentality? I mean,

701
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: maybe you are a Grape Street I don't know, but

702
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how did you deal with that? I'm

703
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: from the Deep, I'm from the DP so were I'm

704
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: from a f um but how it just how I'm

705
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: moving in the game for me was from my daddy.

706
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: My daddy never sucked with me in the game, never

707
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: saw we with me until we got grown grown, we don't.

708
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: He never did that. He taught me how to detail cars,

709
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: so I'm in detailing cars for thirty year is. But

710
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: how he sold his weed, I noticed he never went

711
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: to jail. How he did that was there was a transaction.

712
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: It was I'm gonna pull up, I'm gonna come in,

713
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this transaction. I'm gonna smoke some of

714
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: the weed I just sold you, and then I'm gonna

715
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: go home. So I'm like, well, damn, if I want

716
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: to sell weed, that's how I'm gonna have to do it.

717
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: And then once I started working and realized all of

718
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: my associates that I worked with smoke, it was just like,

719
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't need to go to the corner, going to

720
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: the corners. How you get caught up. The reason why

721
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: I got caught up that day and how I was out.

722
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: I was on the turf for about a seven month

723
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: period in between my son being born. I had I

724
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: was in between jobs, so I was like, let me

725
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: go to the turk, and I never made that move

726
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: to go to the church. I wasn't talking to you

727
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: all that because I would never got at home, Like

728
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: I always feel like if I want to sell me

729
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: that as a business to go is to not get

730
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: caught standing on somebody's corner. It's how you get cast advertising.

731
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: You're you're basically saying, I'm selling this probably get you know,

732
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm a little jail board, so please come get at

733
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: least I'm selling them behind the closed door in a

734
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: business with a person whatever whatever. You know what I'm saying,

735
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: it's my outfit. That's how I was that with Survive

736
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: and Hope as a man and the cookie man like

737
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: people know me for something. We actually to two thousand one,

738
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: So it's just like that's just just been moving like

739
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: that forever. And I always use myself as a store

740
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: of brand and business, so well, I don't know, it's

741
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: just it wasn't to be me. I get so so

742
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: we're with the elf L farm Joy once. Um just

743
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: all right, keep saying tu man, you know why because

744
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: Chuchi Tusky. What's to do from Chichi Williams? Yeah, you're

745
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: taking a turkey Williams. I'm like, are you guys related?

746
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this, Drek, Welcome back to

747
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: Cannabi's talk. Who it took you blood right here? Blind

748
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Chalky blind, Oh it's tucky, I blund you know why.

749
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Before we get started, I wanted to give a special

750
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: thanks to Jeremy, Jennifer, Elvis, Chubb, Pena, and don't forget

751
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: black eyed Pit Pit. Yeah, my brother got with a

752
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: black guy. Still, bro. Brother came to work and he

753
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: said he fell in the shower. Yeah, and he had

754
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: to cut on his eye with a big old not

755
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: on his eye her finger. Oh, man, don't be disrespected

756
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: like that again at home. Yeah, she beat you up

757
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: because she grew up so nice she did. Man. So no,

758
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: it's it's the fun part of the show Man. Before

759
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: we get into the high five, I want to tell

760
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: you something. You know right now, you've been on you know,

761
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: different podcasts, different you know shows, and different you know outlets.

762
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of those outlets that you

763
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: have been on wading? Uh have been on Sway like

764
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: you said, good dude had me out there. I went

765
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: out there for my birthday, so I did Sway. Karen

766
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: hung on my birthday, um, which was dope, Like why

767
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: are you hearing your birthday? I'm like, man, I gotta

768
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: spread the world, whatever day it is. So I was great. Um,

769
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: I've been on because I feel like if I'm not

770
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: willing to come on my birthday, that's being stagnant. Like

771
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: I really need to get this message out there to

772
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: as many people as possible. So again, it's an honor

773
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: pleasant for me to be here. But I've done them

774
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: this year. I've been for Forbes give me a feature

775
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: on four twenty at four twenty with a Warren Barbro,

776
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: the dude. I met him when I was in New

777
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: York as well. Um, I did Black Enterprise recently. UM,

778
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm doing Cannabis Talk one on one right now. I'm

779
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: doing Fox Soul next week. They reached out. I've just

780
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: been I've just been whoever run y'all emails, I've seen email.

781
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I get up every morning at five and say my

782
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: bio to somebody, and I'm just persistent and you know,

783
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: trying to get the message out there. So now, how

784
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: long have you been doing all these interviews? And it's

785
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: something that kind of just happened or did it happen

786
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: to around you know when you first opened in November

787
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: or it finally it's kind of starting to head. Oh

788
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: so when we first opened before we're open, and people

789
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: called wind that we were spinning open. People are kind

790
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: of like getting England. But once we opened, we had

791
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: our local coverage and it was just for me. I'm

792
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: our marketing department. So I tried to think of ways

793
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: I can market without spend a lot of money because

794
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of money. Believe or not.

795
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Everybody think we're rich or we're not. Um So I

796
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: tried to think of ways to market without spending money.

797
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: And ask me, so if I got to get on

798
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: the plane to go meet somebody to go interview to

799
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: get your bio together? UM, I forgot who was I

800
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: was talking to um oh Erica Diaz. She does something

801
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: called a Table of twenty and she was like, semio bio.

802
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: She honored me and one of her events and had

803
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: never met before anything, and I was like, I don't

804
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: have a bio. Let me get a bio. And that

805
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: was um in uh like the beginning of two thousand

806
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: nineteen and I've just been on ever since. I feel

807
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: like if I haven't sent my bio to five outlets,

808
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm lagging because I need to be on everything that

809
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: that will allow me to be on You know what

810
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: I mean. So prosps the I Heart Radio for you know,

811
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: allowing y'all to do that. Because my brother works for

812
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: my Heart and at came Yale and he couldn't do nothing.

813
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: All he could do was mention us on air. But

814
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: when I see I Heart, I'm like, dude, times are changing.

815
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: So I'm just like I said, I'm honored media. It's

816
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: not new to me because I used to be a

817
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: rapper and I used to be on stage a lot.

818
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I used to throw parties in opening like you know,

819
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: Joe said, I've been around, but I don't mind sharing knowledge.

820
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: So if that means I gotta be the spokesperson for

821
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: my store, yeah, that's pre promotion. I don't have to

822
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: pay me, So yeah, man, I used to love going

823
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: to Oakland back in the days. When I go to

824
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: East Fourteenth and I go to Flints Barbecue. You know,

825
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: boy oh boy, we would believe high school to go

826
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: get your slab fl barbecue store. If people have no idea,

827
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean they got ever riding Jones out there, but

828
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: Flints Barbecue, that's the old, is the one, is the one, Zucky.

829
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Let's get a little flow real quick. We want to

830
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 1: let's hear it flow like you're on the fourteen hanging out. Dude,

831
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I do all right. I put on the spot to

832
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: wrap all right. Let me see, let me see, let

833
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: me see. We need to do it. We gotta all right.

834
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: I've been to weed man twenty four and counting big bags.

835
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: That's your baby mom about me. You're mad and that's

836
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: really not shocking LTD in front of nanny house, clean

837
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: as fuck, knocking. You claim you blowing good, but all

838
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: I smell is gelato. That ship has watered down like

839
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: an off brand Moscotto. I've been blowing good since the

840
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: Red Fence days real life Green Forward. Zip then plays

841
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: a hunting made the dose by the weish by me

842
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: and Bird had a rolling bus in hell of knots

843
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: in me a twin. If you wanted to for a team,

844
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: just gotta go from be know. I stay ready to spend.

845
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: It never ends. I got a legal turf. Now it's

846
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: full circle. Got niggas like wow, everybody want to ask

847
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: me how, But I just kept path walking man, because

848
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: that's my style. And I'll leave you very nice fire

849
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: right there. Before we get to the high five. I

850
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on black ownership in cannabis.

851
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? Overall? It's vital um,

852
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: it's necessary, arry um. It's a lot of us out there,

853
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: and so we all have to get a network together

854
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: and link up with each other so we know who

855
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: we are and where we are within the space. But

856
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: it's vital. No disrespect to any other race, but Negroes

857
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: are the cannabis space. We set the trends, we set

858
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: the prices. We everybody want to wear the weed stuff

859
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: or do the weed. We got our white you know,

860
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: our white friends that do our do they thing, you know,

861
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: but black people run the space and we're not representing

862
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: this space well at all. And we're out here, but

863
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: we just got to, you know, it's bottle that we

864
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: speak up and you know, be willing to show that

865
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: we are successful and can be successful in the space

866
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: in a space that we should run, but they want

867
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: us to. I feel like it's even more minority, said,

868
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: I really look at a lot of the farmers if

869
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: you look back in the day too, you know, even

870
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: watching some of the old cartel stuff when it went

871
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: from growing cocaine and ironically ready for finish. Our find

872
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: who grew up the same way as you blue guy

873
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: in the game, because his dad was growing and selling

874
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: as well. So everything you were describing Booze just sitting

875
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: there going and we've heard the story very very sad

876
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: and weed, so we it's just the same concept. But

877
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: my point is you look at the Latins, you know,

878
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: they used to they were growing it out in Mexico.

879
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: They're growing here, the big old bricks of it. And

880
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: then you know, of course the African American community is

881
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: heavy into it too, but it's a more minority base.

882
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: And I do be having to correct myself on that.

883
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm not saying that everything should be black. It

884
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: should be black and brown, not like I said. I

885
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: have had to correct myself on that because we are.

886
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: But the people who you see as the space aren't

887
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: either black or brown, and that's the problem. No, I

888
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: think it's you said it right though, because you know,

889
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: the question was towards you know, black minority owned businesses,

890
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: and so you're referring to your culture, you know. And

891
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: I have to agree with you, though. Is my my father,

892
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, was was very similar to yours. Like he

893
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: went to work every day, he was a postal service,

894
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: he was in the union, you know a military, you

895
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: know a navy, you know, so heat heat. But he

896
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: always said I'm gonna work and and then on top

897
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: of that, make it my side hustle. It wasn't just

898
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: my hustle, you know. And I think that's the separation

899
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: between some of us that understand more of the business

900
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: side of it versus just the street side of it.

901
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: And a lot of people that are that are in

902
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: our communities, they only know the street side of it,

903
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: or they kind of know this other side of it,

904
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: whereas someone like ourselves, we were kind of brought up with, hey,

905
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: it's still gotta work, you still gotta hustle. And now

906
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: that it becomes work, now it is the work and

907
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: the hustle, and so it's a little more you know,

908
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: easier for us to get into the industry. And that's

909
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: money to make, because that's money to make. Yeah, this

910
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: is why I stuff like this is important, just talking

911
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: in the podcast and interviewing and getting the word out

912
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: because people can see if there are people that look

913
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: like them, talk like them, dressed like them, and act

914
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: like I got suits and ties and all that and

915
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: can do all that. Got the for doors I used

916
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: to sell we in a for door with shoes that

917
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: made noise at the bottom, like I used to go

918
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: to the turf dress like I was going to a

919
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: goddamn club. So you can talk to me like people

920
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: need to see people like them and could be like, damn,

921
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: well if he can do what I can do it, Yeah,

922
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: Like that's what that's what needs to be shown. It's

923
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: not just a corporate, you know, white person that's doing

924
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: a successful cannabis space. You've got the ol Harrington's, you

925
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the Hope wise man,

926
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: you got the knees, you know what I mean. So

927
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: it's like you can do it. It's just the funny

928
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: thing is most of those corporate white guys who are

929
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: coming in aren't lasting very long. Well, they're spending a

930
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: lot going crazy. I've been telling you, Madman, springing way

931
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: too much money and they're doing way too much. You

932
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: don't want to listen to me, I think, um, And

933
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: you know it's not nothing against them, because I wish everybody.

934
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: I wish everybody's successful, money for everybody, but high time

935
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: trying to buy out all these clubs. Why, Like I

936
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Well, the d didn't go through.

937
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: They've been trying to buy all those sixteen farms, seventeen

938
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: dispensaries and this and that. It's just like, jeez, what

939
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: do you just read something today? I didn't read the

940
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: whole article, but I did something did I did read

941
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: something about high times. I think up in Oakland maybe

942
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: a few of the stores they were gonna buy is

943
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: in trouble now because of their corporate structure and their

944
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: ownership changes and and I don't know. I haven't dealt

945
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: with Oakland's regulations yet. We don't have a client in

946
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: that area as far as storefronts go, so I don't

947
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: know what they read into. But the whole things on

948
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: paper stock options, which who knows what they're even gonna

949
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: be whatever. Basically, um, they had bs b S paperworking

950
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: practices and like you said, the ownership changes. And the

951
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: thing is the eputy program. We are currently there supposed

952
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: to be four equity dispensaries open before they just did

953
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: the most recent drawing. We're the only one open. So

954
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: did the other one sail their licenses? Did? They? Are?

955
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: They trying to get places and they haven't happy yet.

956
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: We're talking about we've been open two years. We've had

957
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: the license since the beginning of eighteen. How are no

958
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: none of the other ones open? So they run into

959
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: that because one of the screen stries they were trying

960
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: to buy was one of the ones were an equity

961
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: owner gave or whatever his license or whatever they had

962
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: going on to have a heart. But I don't know

963
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: if it's open yet. One and then two does that

964
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: make it still a social equities against the rule? Because

965
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: is it against the rules? Because in l A they're

966
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: trying to do all kinds of ship sideways with these corporations.

967
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day when they come

968
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: into my office and I look at the regulations, but

969
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I don't care what your lawyer

970
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: says or the other lawyer thinks he can do work around.

971
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: You want to have a second set of documents really

972
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: like not, I don't want to work around. Like dude,

973
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: put it in black and white. Let's sign you can't

974
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: do it. Three to five your term and let's go

975
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: get money. But you gotta have education to be able

976
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: to have some conversation. What we're with Tucky Blunts from

977
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: Blunts and more, Oakland, California, and it is time for

978
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: the high five. We're gonna give these five. Brother you ready?

979
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: Question number one? Ready? I know you said you started young,

980
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: but how old the first time you smoked weed? And

981
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: where'd you get it from? In the town thirteen? And

982
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: I got it from We were at a like a

983
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: graduation party but like middle school and one of my

984
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: homeboys had some weed, probably got from one of his brothers.

985
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: That's always good. What is your favorite way to use cannabis?

986
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I prefer to roll up a nice five two grams

987
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: with a little bit of a little bit of wax

988
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: or something only shout out to burn. Um, good dude,

989
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: we've had a good talk, working on some good ship.

990
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I like I'm old school. I used

991
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: to like to roll like Swishers. But once I got

992
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: the little roller, the cookies roller, and I can roll

993
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: a joint of give me papers all day vibes. Question

994
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: number three of the High five. Craziest place you've ever

995
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: used or smoked cannabis my dispensary. We were closed, but

996
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: to be able to smoke at my legal turf. Yeah,

997
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. Yeah, congratulation really is that had

998
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: to be one of those good feelings, like you were

999
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: just about to lie, Like, what the fun we are?

1000
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: I went to jail when I was a kid. This

1001
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: is that? That's what's your code? Like, I'm thirteen blocks

1002
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: from where I called my case. I'm in the same

1003
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: zipo I called my case in and then right back

1004
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: to the pole. But y'all gotta hear this. Ogland got

1005
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: beat up all the ship with all the break ins

1006
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: all blah blah blah blah. So we've been on the

1007
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: phone with police all the different experence with owners. The

1008
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: cop who's leading the investigation on trying to cancel everything

1009
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: and stop all the stuff is the same cop who

1010
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: arrested me, and you're working with him, and he, man,

1011
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: what can we do a flon, Joe? How can we help?

1012
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: How can we get this start? You're like, motherfucker? You

1013
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: know how you can? You send him a box to

1014
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: chocolate because if he hadn't gotten that case gotten arrested me.

1015
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: But we've talked about that, but that just goes to

1016
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: show like this all, even talking to y'all at this

1017
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: time on this day, everything was meant to following place

1018
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: and was meant to fall in place. Number four of

1019
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: the High five with Tucky Blunt, a k a owner

1020
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: of blunts and more. Question number four, what is your

1021
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: go to munchies after you get high? A warm honey

1022
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: bun and some nestly quick starberry milk. That just takes

1023
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: me back to jail. When you say honey bun, I

1024
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in Redwood City, A big giant honey

1025
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: bun warm. You just leave the hole, just egg little

1026
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: pieces that are good. And number five, if you could

1027
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be?

1028
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: My grandmother the first person whoever took me to a

1029
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: cannabis dispensary. She tell us that story. What do you mean?

1030
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I gotta hear? At nineteen I used to always take

1031
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: my granning around around her errands. That my granning right here,

1032
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: se um, she hurt. My dispensary is about five blocks

1033
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: in her house, same street, but about the five blocks

1034
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: of difference. But one of her errands to take me

1035
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: to a store. When I pulled up nineteenth the telegraph

1036
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: downtown Opland, came out with a white bag. I'm like,

1037
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: what's that graining? She liked as weed. I'm like you,

1038
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean she smoked we all you know. I'm like

1039
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: you bought weed out of a store. She said, yeah,

1040
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: I saw I want one of these, and this was

1041
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: and I started working at my first dispensary at the

1042
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: end of ninety nine. But I told her then I

1043
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: wanted to dispensary. Never knew this would happened, but he

1044
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: would love to smoke with drum with her right now

1045
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: in my parking lot. Your grandma, your first dispensary, illegal dispensery.

1046
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: But still that's great. Great. Did you see grandma smoking

1047
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: weed or you just knew her smoking weed? Yeah? No, dude,

1048
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: every like when they had parties and cookouts and stuff

1049
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: at the house and they're playing dominoes, I'm people through

1050
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: the thing. They're just smoking. She liked to run her papers.

1051
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: She grew weed before, Like, yeah, no, weed is prevalent

1052
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: in my in my family. So I guess Bloody Blunt

1053
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: was the perfect last name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tacky man,

1054
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: we want to thank you for being on Cannabis Talk

1055
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: one on one and uh, you know, we do appreciate

1056
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: you and we're supporters of you. Anything else Before we

1057
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: get out of here, the man just shout out to

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Speaker 1: the hull Cannada space, shout out to everybody. That's uh

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Speaker 1: been working with. Shout to wood Mapp, They've been really

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Speaker 1: helpful stuff I've been trying to do. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: you guys for having me um and then just eating that.

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Speaker 1: Y'all ever need from me meaning to talk, help mean

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Speaker 1: me to I'm here. We'll being open when you come

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Speaker 1: to LA. Make sure you touch based us and Craig

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your number, Wild Crutch basing some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Yep, man, Thank you for being our show man.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the talk on the while, rememberage. Remember

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Speaker 1: this guys. If no one else loved you, we do.

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Speaker 1: He's rather Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one

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