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Speaker 1: in to our Friday morning podcast. Matt Mosley All Things

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Speaker 1: Cowboys chronicles what has been a dreadful offseason for Dallas.

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Speaker 1: No other way to put it, but first eight questions,

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Speaker 1: real answers, stuff I want to talk about, but don't

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Speaker 1: Dear Colin. A lot of NFL moves any really surprising? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised the media is not acknowledging how badly Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers drama hurt the Packers. Marquis Valdez scantling went to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs late Thursday. Does everybody realize the number one

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Speaker 1: receiver for the Green Bay Packers heading into next year

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Speaker 1: is Alan Lazard? Just think about this. The LA Ram's

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Speaker 1: wide receiving corps is Cooper Cup one hundred seventy catches,

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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson, Van Jefferson O b J. Alan Lazard would

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Speaker 1: not be a one, two, three, or four receiver for

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Speaker 1: the Rams. The Buccaneers have Mike Evans as a one,

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin as a two, Russell Gage as a three,

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Speaker 1: Scottie Miller as a four. Alan Lazard wouldn't be a one, two,

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Speaker 1: three or four for the Bucks. Does everybody understand what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Green Bay? Aaron Rodgers decision to be the

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Speaker 1: highest paid player in the league has gutted his receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations Aaron forgetting your money. Dear Colin, you are really

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Speaker 1: poking people in the ribs on Lincoln Riley in usc

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Speaker 1: What do you see that others don't? Well. I've had

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Speaker 1: a theory forever. I wrote about it in my first

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Speaker 1: book called The Say It Out Loud Theory. I tell

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Speaker 1: my kids this all the time. Write it on paper,

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Speaker 1: your dreams, your goals, your conflicts and say them out loud.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you. If I say to you Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Irving and James Harden, two ball centric guards are going

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Speaker 1: to plan the same team. Does that sound like it's

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Speaker 1: going to work? No? It never did. They couldn't get

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Speaker 1: through the All Star break. If I said to you

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Speaker 1: do you think it'll work? Lincoln Riley's the Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: of college football, the biggest brand on the West Coast

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Speaker 1: in the weakest conference, Oklahoma Sooner fans are clueless. Of

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Speaker 1: course it's going to work. Say what Oklahoma is doing

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Speaker 1: out loud. The best offense of coach and their star

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Speaker 1: quarterback left replaced by a long time assistant as they

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Speaker 1: eventually head to the SEC. Does that sound like multiple

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Speaker 1: national championships? Folks? If you ever have her dilemma, write

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Speaker 1: Dear Colin, why do you talk so often and so

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Speaker 1: lovingly about Lebron James. People want to talk about John Morant, No,

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Speaker 1: they don't. Spotify is a great barometer of how people

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Speaker 1: listen to music. It used to be, Hey, people want

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Speaker 1: a variety of music. Not anymore. Ninety percent of the

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Speaker 1: music played on Spotify is by one percent of the artists.

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Speaker 1: It used to be that people wanted new music. I

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Speaker 1: on Spotify, seventy percent we looked at up is considered

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Speaker 1: old music. What does that mean? People aren't looking for

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Speaker 1: new artists and new music. They like familiarity. Stuff they

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Speaker 1: Dear Colin, what were you most surprised about from your

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Speaker 1: excellent interview with Mark Cuban earlier this week? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: The pushback he got for saying that is remarkable. First

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Speaker 1: golden rule, if a billionaire says something and you disagree,

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Speaker 1: He didn't win a scratch off game. It's years and

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Speaker 1: it from AI and TikTok. Mark Cuban is right, Why

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Speaker 1: are we arguing with him? Dear Colin, Tyreek Hill via

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs to the Dolphins was a major move this week.

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Speaker 1: What was your interpretation of how the media handled it.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised when the media makes the same mistakes over

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Speaker 1: age poorly. Why can't we learn from our mistakes? If

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Speaker 1: Go look at the last ten Super Bowl champs. Did

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Speaker 1: a bad owner, an unremarkable GM, a rookie head coach,

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Speaker 1: Miami's taken over the world. Who is the quarterback? We

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Speaker 1: do this all the time. We fall for the better story,

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Speaker 1: We fall for the bigger headline. Tyreek Hill is a

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Speaker 1: But one of the reasons Jerry loves being on so

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Speaker 1: Don't know Steven particularly well. But again, I think they've

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Speaker 1: he just lost his long time assistant, Maryland, who was

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Speaker 1: more favorably Aikman or Romo? How are they viewed in

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Speaker 1: the city you live. Well, it really comes down to

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Speaker 1: sort of an age thing. But for anybody forty five

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Speaker 1: and older, it's Aikman. And it's not close. Now, if

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Speaker 1: we're talking about like who's the better broadcaster or whatever,

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Speaker 1: we could have that debate. But in terms of in

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Speaker 1: terms of the level of respect, I'll say forty and over,

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Speaker 1: I Aikman because at least those people, I guess, actually

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Speaker 1: thirty five and over. Kind I have some memory of

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Speaker 1: how's Romo viewed in Dallas. I guess he's very popular nationally.

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Speaker 1: Is Romo popular in Dallas locally? Yeah? Sure, sure, right,

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's just there. It's a different kind of

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Speaker 1: respect level. He's popular and people like him, and he's

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Speaker 1: a very he's a very likable guy. And and uh,

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Speaker 1: well I covered him closely on those on the beat

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Speaker 1: for the morning News and got to know him extremely well.

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Speaker 1: Uh And um, so I watched that one very close

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Speaker 1: over the years, But I don't um was at the

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Speaker 1: wedding Colin and got to hear the cold Play cover

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Speaker 1: band really get after it. While yeah, yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear some of those stories. Beautiful wedding, by

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Speaker 1: the way, But I think, uh, I think it's just

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Speaker 1: not it doesn't even rival Aikman. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: stallback Aichman thing in this town, even though Roger just

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Speaker 1: turned eighty. That's just beyond anything anybody could imagine. It's

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Speaker 1: just they're beloved and respected. Whereas Tony is liked and enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: And I think the fact that he I didn't think

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be this celebrated immediately as a broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: I thought he's saying put in a tough situation and

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Speaker 1: he's think what he's done, He's brought like Nance is

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Speaker 1: like having fun again, and Nance's I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: just kind of a whole different kind of dynamic than

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Speaker 1: I thought would happen that quickly, and it's it's worked,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're right though. I think Aikman, given

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Speaker 1: the opportunity, I think it. I think it probably bothered

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Speaker 1: his ego. And I don't know what he was making

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Speaker 1: in Fox, but I think it probably bothered his ego

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Speaker 1: a little bit to be let's guess, seven million a

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Speaker 1: year behind Tony whatever, twelve, you know, ten million, who knows.

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Speaker 1: I think that really probably annoyed him, although he's he's

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Speaker 1: a very gracious tip. You mean, you've had him on

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Speaker 1: many times and you have a good relationship, you know,

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Speaker 1: very nice guy. I just all this stuff has been

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Speaker 1: so discussed by radio and TV critics and it's not

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Speaker 1: something we talk about in the halls of Fox. Like

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Speaker 1: he left. It's a bummer, but you know, we got it.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's nobody was shocked that he had

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Speaker 1: a market. You know, he's Troy Aikman. But but it

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Speaker 1: is interesting when I read the Aikman romo stories, like

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Speaker 1: if they were in the same room, would they be gracious?

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Speaker 1: And there's not some rivalry, right, I think Troy Roger

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Speaker 1: have both been great to the quarterbacks and have been

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Speaker 1: there if they needed them. And that's just Troy. He

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Speaker 1: may be wired to privately not like the situation and

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Speaker 1: how much Romo was making it all. But nah, he's

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Speaker 1: He's totally fine. You know, when I think about all

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Speaker 1: those dynamics, there was only one dynamic that was always

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting after Romo was out because I feel

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Speaker 1: like he didn't think Garrett stood by him, So there

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Speaker 1: was an interesting for a while. I think a Romo

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Speaker 1: Garrett riffed. But as far as Troy, and now that

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Speaker 1: Troy's maybe making whatever close to Tony, I think they'll

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Speaker 1: be back to being fine. You know. Yeah, yeah, money

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Speaker 1: solves a lot of issues. Yeah, yeah, I mean it

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Speaker 1: really does. All right, Mosley, you're busy Doomsday podcast with

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Speaker 1: Edward or you're very busy. Who do you like in

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Speaker 1: the tournament? This will Friday morning, so somebody may get

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Speaker 1: knocked out. I think Arizona is the best team I've seen.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean they'll win. Villanova's built to win

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Speaker 1: because they play defense, guards, wings, bigs there and they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not terribly big, but Villanova's never big. They're never there.

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Speaker 1: They won a national title the biggest guy with six

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Speaker 1: nine and a half, so Villanova. I'll tell you a

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Speaker 1: team that's interesting if you could resee the tournament Ucla,

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Speaker 1: and I watched them six times. They're a throw from

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Speaker 1: a baseball throw from my house. Man. I was blown

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Speaker 1: away with them last weekend. Yeah, that's interesting because watching

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Speaker 1: UCLA in person last year in that amazing game against Gonzaga.

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Speaker 1: I'll always thank them because I think they wore out

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga a little bit. I think with my alma Mata

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Speaker 1: Baylor no longer in the tournament, Kentucky, others checking out.

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Speaker 1: I think the Duke thing is. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: fascinating thing to watch, what duke Texas Tech. But I

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Speaker 1: would up. I think the Zags. I think Mark Few

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you think of storylines that are just sort of amazing,

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Speaker 1: and he's been knocking on the door. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: literally the best tournament team. They just don't ever win

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Speaker 1: the holding thing. Yeah, yeah, win more than anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought they would do it with Kiss Burt In

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Speaker 1: Sugs and those guys, But of course my Bears got

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Speaker 1: in a way, which I was I'll always celebrate, but

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Speaker 1: I think now there's just not that team you just

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Speaker 1: talked about Villanova, and I'd have huge respect for Jay Ryan.

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Speaker 1: They played Baylor early in the season. I know they're

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Speaker 1: a different team, okay, but Baylor held him to thirty

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Speaker 1: four points or thirty six points in that game. They

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Speaker 1: can't score like you need to score in these things. Again,

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Speaker 1: some of the teams like Kentucky that are extremely, extremely athletic.

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Speaker 1: But that's a great story you bringing up Arizona. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy from Gonzaga. Um, it's it's kind of wild

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Speaker 1: that that a guy can leave that program many many

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Speaker 1: years and step into another program and immediately be poised

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Speaker 1: to win this tournament. So I wouldn't be totally shocked,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes some people need to be rewarded for greatness

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Speaker 1: and coach k that would be a fun story, all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But Mark Few, I think it's time.

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Speaker 1: And I felt bad from Mark he got a DUI

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Speaker 1: I think this passed off season. I think he's a

534
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: tremendous guy, and I just I hated that for him,

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Speaker 1: that he had that kind of negative press. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not jumping down on a limb, but

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Speaker 1: I just think this is Gonzag's time. And then we

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Speaker 1: can watch that big seven footer who weighs about ninety

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Speaker 1: five pounds chat. He can do some fun stuff. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: and Timmy's from from where I am. Timmy's from. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's from the Greater Dallas Areas, from Richardson Pearce and

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Speaker 1: uh and Baylor embarrassed him last year. I think he's

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Speaker 1: back for revenge. And I like the Zags because seeing

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Speaker 1: your buddy. Yeah, it's nice to it's nice to be

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Speaker 1: with you. I've missed you, Okay, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: hope you can see the shacket that I'm rocking today.

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Speaker 1: This is a new thing we're doing in Texas, kind

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Speaker 1: of a half jacket, half shirt, and it's really I

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Speaker 1: think it's done some good things for me. Okay, here's funny.

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Speaker 1: All Right, buddy, I gotta do another podcast, always always.

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