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Therésa: This is oat, right, Len? C old foam is oat latte?

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Therésa: Okay, great? Are we ready to start? Uh-huh

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Therésa: Everyone, Therésa here. To those of you who know me

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Therésa: from my socials, thank you for taking the leap of

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Therésa: faith and joining me on this pod journey. And for

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Therésa: all the newbies out there, welcome. I'm Terresa, and this

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Therésa: is my brand new podcast, Haunting. This project is near

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Therésa: and dear to me and kind of a departure from

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Therésa: the stuff I normally share. It's less how to wear

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Therésa: an Hermes scarf as a shirt eight different ways and more worldly

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Therésa: or otherworldly. With the help of my producer, Len Len, say hello; w e'll be

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Therésa: bringing you different ghost stories each week, straight from the

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Therésa: person who experienced it firsthand. Some will be unsettling, some unnerving,

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Therésa: some even downright terrified, but all of them will be

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Therésa: totally true. So without further ado, let's jump right in.

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Therésa: First on the docket is the Kale family, whose dream

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Therésa: home turned into a nightmare. When their son Evan, summoned

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Therésa: in something sinister. Wow! Say that's ten times fast summon something sinister,

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Therésa: summon something some thin f**k.

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Story A: I have these faint memories of just weird things happening: a cabinet opens up on its own, or I'd leave a room, and I come back,

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Story A: and something is very different than when I left the room.

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Story A: I was in sixth grade. My dad's out in the

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Story A: So I go out. It's gonna sound kind of strange,

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Story A: the cigarette and he says, son, they can never hurt you.

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Story A: My name's Evan Cale.

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Story A: I'm Carol, Evan's mother, and I'm Evans's father, Harold Cale,

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Story A: and we did live in a haunted house from hell.

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Story A: The house that spent pretty much my entire childhood in in Edinah, Minnesota.

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Story A: It is a suburb of the Twin Cities.

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Story A: Was a big house that had six bedrooms, eighteen or

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Story A: nineteen rooms.

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Story A: We were told that the singer Dean Martin had stayed

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Story A: that was filmed in Minneapolis.

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Story A: The things that I saw, heard felt in that house

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Story A: were nothing short of incredible and terrifying. I wanted to

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Story A: prove it to my friends, and I had these ghost hunts.

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Story A: Every time I had a ghost hunt, it involved a

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Story A: Ouiji board.

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Story A: We had one of the original Ouiji boards from nineteen thirteen.

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Story A: Evan would play with it, ask it questions and would give answers.

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Story A: One time, I asked it to identify itself, and it said Ron. Ron was my parents'

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Story A: friend who died of cancer two months before. And then,

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Story A: you know, I said, okay, we'll prove it. Tell me

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Story A: The Ouiji board pointed out that he had some very,

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Story A: very dark and serious issues.

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Story A: That spelled out drugs and spelled out girls, It spelled

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Story A: later turned out to be true. Messing with a Ouiji board,

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Story A: I fundamentally changed the nature of whatever was in that house.

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Story A: I brought in something evil. It went from being creepy

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Story A: to downright terrifying, like demonic. I would have these nights

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Story A: My dad was asleep. It was about eleven, eleven -thirty,

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Story A: ice cold, and I started hearing the blinds kind of rustling,

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Story A: Like again and again and again, and finally, I said, stop it.

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Story A: And it stopped for about three seconds, and then suddenly,

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Story A: the whole f**king bed shot up. It was like Hercules

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Story A: energy move through the bed. I went from kind of

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Story A: asleep to eyes wide open. Holy sh*t, the realization of

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Story A: how much power this thing had. It felt like a

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Story A: semi -truck that had the power to crush flesh and bone.

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Story A: I had been living with something that easily could have

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Story A: There's a distinct line in the sand pre- and post, but I mean, the activity

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Story A: got purely demonic. I might stay awake all night, terrified.

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Story A: He'd call mom, Mom, and I'd come up and he'd say,

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Story A: pushed my mom down the stairs.

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Story A: I was going downstairs and it just felt like somebody

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Story A: from behind, you know, a strong hand on my back nudged me.

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Story A: Four weeks later, Carol was sitting in bed reading and the bed.

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Story A: out of bed and stood there freaking out. Oh, oh

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Story A: my god, Oh my god, oh my god.

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Story A: It scared the sh*t out of me.

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Story A: I didn't trust my eyes, and she didn't trust what

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Story A: The next night, I was sitting in bed reading, and

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Story A: the bed just collapsed and sandwiched me.

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Story A: The mattress folded in half like a taco.

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Story A: I just laid there when it happened. I didn't dare move.

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Story A: he couldn't find anything wrong with the bed. You know

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Story A: that would have caused it to have done that.

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Story A: Whomever can throw the mattress, the bed, the frame, andCarol

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Story A: has enough power to kill you.

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Story A: The basement had a bathroom. My dad tells me one

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Story A: night they looked up and there's a bloody face staring

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Story A: at him in the mirror.

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Story A: It was white, and it was black, and it has a hat that had to be centuries old,

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Story A: and the coldness was terrifying. It had probably dropped twenty degrees

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Story A: in a hot bathroom.

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Story A: He took down every mirror in the basement.

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Story A: We had the best exorcist in the Twin Cities come

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Story A: to our home. She said, it's one of the most

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Story A: powerful spiritual homes I've ever seen.

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Story A: I worked for like two three years, and then randomly

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Story A: it just came back. And then I had a team

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Story A: of ghost hunters come. There's an EVP that they captured.

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Story A: It's scary.

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Story A: Sounds to me like it's saying mine, I n E.

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Story A: That is the sound of evil. That's what evil sounds like.

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Story A: Realizing that it's emanating from your home when you live and sleep,

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Story A: But then after the ghost hunters all got followed to

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Story A: One of the people they brought claim that an angry

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Story A: to my house, they said no more ghost hunting.

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Story A: When we were going to put the house on the market,

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Story A: the laundry room flooded out with water two different times.

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Story A: Then we'd call a plumber and the plumber would be like,

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Story A: I can't explain it.

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Story A: We put the house up for sale three or four times,

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Story A: and every time we did it would flood. Listen, we

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Story A: So my parents were moving out and they found the Ouiji

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Story A: I remember seeing it when we were moving. The little

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Story A: cursor thing you use was poised down the word goodbye.

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Story A: The very last year my parents had the house, nobody lived

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Story A: put my backpack on a table, and within about three

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Story A: minutes of me getting there, the backpack (sfx) right off the table,

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Story A: I'm leaving. I'm leaving, and I grabbed the back and

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Story A: Out of that house. And that was the last time

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Story A: It scares the hell out of me when I think

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Story A: about it, what went bump in that house in the night.

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Story A: It keeps me up to this day. I'm thirty -two

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Story A: I'm trying to go to sleep.

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Story A: When you see the supernatural, it's terrifying. These things can kill.

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Story A: They are as real as we are.

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Story A: Do not meddle with Ouiji board. I can't stress that enough.

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Story A: That was the definitive moment where I realized how dangerous

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Story A: it was, how powerful it was, how all these years.

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Story A: I had been playing with fire.

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Story A: This sh*t is real, this sh*t is scary. They are

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Story A: not toys.

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Therésa: He's not wrong. Last time I played with a Ouiji board,

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Therésa: it was eighth grade in John DeMarco's parents' basement, and

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Therésa: I was supposed to give him an over the pants

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Therésa: to watchMrs. Doubtfire with lights on instead. So yeah, don't

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Therésa: mess with Ouiji boards. Now, before we move on, just

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Therésa: a little lighthousekeeping here. A lot of you in the

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Therésa: comments seem confused. You're all like, oh, Therésa, stop being

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Therésa: so cryptic and tell us what the hell is going on?

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Therésa: This isn't the snarky social commentary and OOTDs we've come to

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Therésa: know and love. What business could you possibly have with

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Therésa: the Halloween Industrial Complex? Well, the business I have, dear listener,

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Therésa: is of the unfinished variety. Yes, the long and short

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Therésa: of it is that I died. I'm literally dead. I'm

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Therésa: not like literally dead. Not like when you guys say it like OMG, Carly accidentally said needs to her cousin instead of her boyfriend;

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Therésa: I'm dead. No, I've like actually passed away the hows

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Therésa: and whys don't matter. All you need to know is

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Therésa: that now I'm stuck in purgatory because apparently, I have what my caseworker, Sharon, calls unfinished business.

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Therésa: I guess since I never got that proverbial little blue

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Therésa: check of life, I wasn't able to cross over, and

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Therésa: I'm stuck hosting this podcast for eternity or until Sharon

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Therésa: says my business is finished, whatever that means. Obviously, just

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Therésa: because I'm dead doesn't mean I'm going to give up

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Therésa: on my burgeoning career as an influencer slash social media personality.

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Therésa: So here we are.

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Therésa: In short, I'm dead, but my career is as alive

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Therésa: as ever. Now let's get back to it. Our next

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Therésa: totally true story. Our friend Kathleen gets busted for smoking

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Therésa: by a ghost, and just quickly, I really shouldn't have

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Therésa: to say this, but don't smoke. My ex used to

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Therésa: basically drink cotton candy vape juice for breakfast. It's disgusting, and no, cigarettes aren't an organic, plant-based alternative to vaping, So don't even try that spin because I already did,

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Therésa: and it's what almost got me canceled the first time.

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Story B: I've lived in this house my entire life, but you know,

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Story B: there's always been some things that I couldn't explain. I'm

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Story B: Kathleen from Wakefield and this is the story of the

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Story B: time a ghost caught me smoking.

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Story B: I live in a large white house. It's colonial with

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Story B: very beautiful bay windows on the front. The house itself

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Story B: is pretty basic, with a green door in green shutters.

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Story B: It's almost warm and inviting, but it still has that

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Story B: haunted house aspect to it.

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Story B: If it's dark, it's a little spooky. Maybe you wouldn't

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Story B: break it in.

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Story B: If you watch the movie The Conjuring, that's the basement

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Story B: It's not really anything of a big deal. I've lived

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Story B: She comes down and she says, "Uncle Morris's house is broken."

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Story B: And I just look at her. I was like, "what?" And

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Story B: "how do you know about Uncle Morris?" And she said, "oh,

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Story B: Our great- great uncle owned the house. He moved there

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Story B: Later on, about. Three in the morning, we all go

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Story B: my dad to find out. That's not a great look

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Story B: for a Catholic school student. They're like, oh, we want

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Story B: And my friend was like, "oh, I'm just gonna smoke

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Story B: And I was like, "all right," like whatever. So with resistance,

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Story B: I allow this person to go downstairs and smoke a cigarette.

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Story B: She is afraid of the basement, as are the rest

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Story B: The stairs are old and L shaped, so every step you

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Story B: When you get to the bottom of the stairs. There

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Story B: We're downstairs, just huddled by the singular light. She's smoking,

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Story B: The goody two -shoes student that I was. I say "no, no,

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Story B: I'm okay no," and she keeps kind of going at it,

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Story B: casually offering it to me, and finally I accept. As

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Story B: I take the cigarette, I hesitated because I've never smoke before,

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Story B: I've never drank, I've never done anything that I wasn't

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Story B: I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to do

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Story B: or how to smoke, honestly, And as I took it

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Story B: to my lips, the singular light bulb above us, burst. It

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Story B: We stared through the open doorway down into the basement.

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Story B: We were trembling at that point, and as we sit

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Story B: in silence, the door slams shut. The four of us

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Story B: scream and scramble once again to get upstairs into my

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Story B: We have no idea if someone's in the house or

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Story B: My friends never came to my house again.

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Story B: It was like, oh, so this is definitely Uncle Morris

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Story B: telling us to knock it off. He's kind of heeping

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Story B: us in line, shutting the TV off when we're supposed

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Therésa: You don't normally hear a lingering uncle story with a

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Therésa: happy ending. So, I actually like this one. It's giving

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Therésa: Scared Straight. Message received, Uncle Morris. But real quick, a

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Therésa: lot of you in the comments are asking me how

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Therésa: I died. Let's keep our questions focused on the haunting, Cool!

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Len: (mumbles) You should tell them.

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Therésa: Just from a content perspective, I don't really see what

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Therésa: that gets us, Len. Also, my publicist and my manager

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Therésa: don't want to release that yet.

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Len: (mumbles) You should tell them.

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Therésa: Just because I'm Dad doesn't mean my team is dropping me, Len. Come on, how else do you think people make

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Therésa: it into the Oscar's "in memoriam" segment, your agent's assistant

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Therésa: sends an email, So Maddie, if you're listening, send the email. Anyway,

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Therésa: in all seriousness, I just want to say everyone has

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Therésa: been really cool in the comments about this new project.

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Therésa: It's so comforting to know I have just as supportive community

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Therésa: in death as I did in life, and that's why

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Therésa: I'm doing this. You can help me navigate the great unknown,

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Therésa: and hopefully I can help you see that ghosts are

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Therésa: just former people who want to have a little fun

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Therésa: like anyone else. Unfortunately for you, that's often in the

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Therésa: form of mortal fear and suffering. But it doesn't need

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Therésa: to feel personal, because nine out of ten times it isn't.

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Len: (mumbles) Alright, wrap it up.

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Therésa: Already? All right Therésa- Gang, I'm signing off for today, but

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Therésa: be sure to come back each week for more supernatural

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Therésa: stories of the unreal, unexplained, and unknown that will send

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Therésa: shivers down your spine and have you screaming, "What the

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Therésa: hell Therésa?!" just like my stepdad Jared used to say

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Therésa: when I'd let the dog two on his Loro Piana slippers.

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Therésa: And if you've ever had a paranormal experience you think

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Therésa: is pod-worthy? Email Len at HauntingThePodcast@Gmail.com and you could be

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Therésa: featured on an upcoming episode. Until then, Stay Sexy, what,

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Therésa: and We'll see you next time. Until the end of time, Tah!

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Therésa: Stay sex Len? Why did you put "Stay Sexy?"

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