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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Thursday, March nineteenth, and there is

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Speaker 1: a University of Alabama student who is right now missing

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Speaker 1: now authorities are saying they do believe foul play is

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Speaker 2: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 3: This twenty year old kid right Yes, he's a junior

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Gracie. And look this hits home. You know, this

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Speaker 3: is a kid, a college kid on spring break. How

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Speaker 3: many people listening right now have kids doing that right now?

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Speaker 3: I am among them, And this is absolutely apparents first nightmare.

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Speaker 1: We've seen these stories over years, some very high profile

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Speaker 1: of cases, quite frankly, over the years in which we

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Speaker 1: of answers. I'm not moving toward that direction, but what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying here seems like we have seen some of

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Speaker 1: these stories over the past number of years, and in

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Speaker 1: romes when you're in the pain or excuse me, the

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Speaker 1: I guess the helplessness a parent must feel sitting this

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Speaker 1: And that is where they're sitting right now, because this

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Speaker 1: kid went missing on it was early Tuesday morning hours,

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Speaker 1: so I have that right. They went out Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so he had been in Amsterdam in the weekend,

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Speaker 3: had just gotten to Barcelona on Monday, went out to

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Speaker 3: And yes, the last time he was seen he got

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Speaker 3: with someone else.

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Speaker 1: Now that part came later, I do believe, right, because

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Speaker 1: initially they didn't know, but now it's being reported that

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Speaker 1: now to more. I guess a serious issue here robes

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Speaker 3: Yes, look, a lot of this is obviously garnering a

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Speaker 3: ton of attention locally there in Barcelona, and as you

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Speaker 3: point out, local reporters have said that police told them,

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Speaker 3: this does not look like your typical missing person's case

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Speaker 3: they have not released the video, this footage that has

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Speaker 3: Shoko is the name of the club, and they just

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Speaker 3: trace his steps. Police did tell local reporters that there

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Speaker 1: So we put it so we're now forty eight hours, right,

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Speaker 1: and Rope was one of the early thing. I guess

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Speaker 1: anybody with anybody in the world, but also anybody with

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Speaker 3: Yes, so police did not confirm this, but his mother

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Speaker 3: went on Facebook almost immediately desperate because they learned pretty

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Speaker 3: You know, no kid who is of any age truly

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Speaker 2: And it seems I guess not odd.

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Speaker 1: But look, we've if you've traveled, if you've traveled to Europe,

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Speaker 3: As friends and safety and numbers, right, that's what you

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Speaker 3: thinking directly of analysts who actually studied abroad in Spain

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Speaker 3: She's right now on spring break here in this country,

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Speaker 3: but yes, when she's overseas, especially, I'm worried about my

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know if those same things are

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Speaker 1: Not sure you're with a friend, not maybe not drilled

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Speaker 1: Make sure you have a buddy. And the way it's

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Speaker 1: preying on. We've seen this in places we've gone. You

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Speaker 1: So I guess you have to ropes right now, reserve

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Speaker 3: We want to read for you the Gracie family statement.

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Speaker 3: They put it out. They said who he was, that

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Speaker 3: actually went into a deep description about what he was

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Speaker 3: I'm just imagining this poor family. The mom right now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not a matter of this is not

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Speaker 1: just he didn't decide to just go off. Something is wrong.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what that thing is, and you have

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Speaker 1: to hold out some hope. But ROSEI, as we know,

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Speaker 1: we talk about the family, the support they're getting, and

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Speaker 1: we have seen plenty of times robes whether that's any

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Speaker 2: Right when you talk about.

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Speaker 1: down in Birmingham, excuse me, in Tuscaloosa right now, stay here,

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Speaker 1: apologies once again to the University of Alabama. Of course,

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Speaker 1: but usually robes, to be honest with you, we hear

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Speaker 1: because we are as much as we are combatants, as

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Speaker 1: My heart sank a little more just because of that affiliation.

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Speaker 2: Robe.

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Speaker 1: But the community down there is trying to support this family,

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is just it's worst case scenario. I get

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Speaker 3: And so yes, mom and dad and families in Chicago,

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Speaker 3: The students are all around the world. Frankly, so I

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Speaker 3: imagine just the amount of support given to that family.

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Speaker 3: They said they're here for them, set to do anything

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this was a not a school, university sanctioned trip.

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Speaker 1: There were students from the university, but they're on personal

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Speaker 1: What's next right now, Ropes, this is a wait and

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Speaker 1: I don't know their background. Maybe they are fluent speakers

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Speaker 3: No, you make such a good point, because it's scary

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Speaker 3: enough trying to deal with any missing person situation here,

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Speaker 3: So you would absolutely be at a huge disadvantage just

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Speaker 3: the State Department here actually has released a statement because

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Speaker 3: they're obviously helping this family. You can only imagine what's

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Speaker 3: they just made a point to say, yes, they're respecting

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Speaker 3: because look, we know forty eight hours, right Everyone always

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Speaker 3: try and find someone to bring them home safely. That's

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Speaker 3: the goal here. But that is the concern. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: other high profile cases, did your mind? Mine went straight

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Speaker 3: to Natalie Holloway. I just remembered that case so well

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Speaker 3: on spring break there in Aruba, and you know, just

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Speaker 3: It was such a mystery for so long. But those

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Speaker 2: This one today, folks.

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Speaker 1: We will keep a close eye on it because any

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Speaker 1: of those developments could come at any moment. And like

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Speaker 1: you said, Robie pinsing forty eight hours, that's another thing

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Speaker 1: about Yes, we have that understanding here in this country.

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Speaker 2: I always say the first forty eight hours are crucial.

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Speaker 1: We also have different rules in this country when someone

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Speaker 1: I don't know what those rules are in Spain. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the rules are one way in Spain

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Speaker 1: in a different way in Barcelona or like. Those are

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Speaker 1: things you got to get caught up on. And how seriously,

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Speaker 1: all the times we hear this, we've seen this foreign

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Speaker 2: Ah, some drunk American and they'll show up.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a thing to where how do you get

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Speaker 1: them to really invest in your case? You want to think, yes,

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Speaker 1: they would give it high priority, but do they will they?

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Speaker 1: All those things have to be dealt with in this

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Speaker 2: I'm TJ. Holmes on behalf of a me Robock. We

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