Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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Speaker 1: news from sunny Florida, my friends, and some of you
Speaker 1: will obviously be able to hear. I'm at Sepak having
Speaker 1: a bit of a reunion with so many of my
Speaker 1: freedom loving friends and colleagues. Here. It's day one. It's
Speaker 1: relatively calm, but I know it's going to fill up
Speaker 1: with thousands and thousands of folks. Florida for a New
Speaker 1: Yorker right now is the closest thing I think you
Speaker 1: can have as an American to fleeing East Berlin for
Speaker 1: West Berlin circa nineteen sixty five. You get down here
Speaker 1: and there's mask requirements. You get down here and there
Speaker 1: are people who are taking precautions, they're social distancing, but
Speaker 1: there's a difference in overall feeling where you're going forward
Speaker 1: with your life. You're gonna you're gonna keep operating your store,
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep showing up for work. People are going
Speaker 1: to keep moving forward, and it's just such a difference.
Speaker 1: It's amazing feeling it all around you. You You see it
Speaker 1: going on, and I gotta tell you, I'm I feel
Speaker 1: like I worked for the Florida Tourism Board every time
Speaker 1: I come down here. But Ron de Santists deserves so
Speaker 1: much credit for this. Has done such an excellent job
Speaker 1: and in the face of unbelievable pressure and criticism, let's seepac.
Speaker 1: I'll have more stories for you tomorrow on this one.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's just the very very beginnings of it.
Speaker 1: President Trump, former President Trump, pardon me, will be appearing
Speaker 1: here and talking about the future of the GOP. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot that we'll have to discuss about this,
Speaker 1: But I wanted to start with racism and fake racism
Speaker 1: and how fake racism can ruin lives. Now. I went
Speaker 1: to a college called Amherst. Amherst is in central Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I bring this up because it is very left wing,
Speaker 1: but not as left wing as some of the other
Speaker 1: schools in the neighborhood, notably Hampshire College, UMass Amherst, which
Speaker 1: is an entirely different school for who doesn't know that's
Speaker 1: a state school for the University of Massachusetts, and Smith College.
Speaker 1: I know quite a bit about Smith College because I
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend who was a Smith attendee, and I
Speaker 1: can tell you that Smith is like living in an
Speaker 1: alternate universe. Smith College in Northampton, Massachusetts is the most
Speaker 1: far left place I think I've ever been in my life.
Speaker 1: And that includes somebody. That's somebody who grew up in
Speaker 1: New York City and has lived in Greenwich Village and
Speaker 1: has lived in Washington, DC, which voted ninety four percent
Speaker 1: for Joe Biden this last time around. Smith is all
Speaker 1: the campus lunacy that we talk about. It's like it's
Speaker 1: concentrated in one place, and it's the center now of
Speaker 1: a national level story over race and class and wokeness.
Speaker 1: And this reminds me very much of some of the
Speaker 1: similar situations that happened while I was a student there.
Speaker 1: Now going on twenty years ago, it's been quite a
Speaker 1: while since I was at Amherst College, at a little
Speaker 1: stint at the CIA popped into a rock and Afghanistan
Speaker 1: started a media career. Thank you Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh,
Speaker 1: and now here I am. But I remember what it
Speaker 1: was like at Smith back in the day. I remember
Speaker 1: how ideologically driven so many people were, and it was
Speaker 1: really the totalitarianism of wokeness that we're experiencing every day
Speaker 1: that was only in places like Smith twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: to the extent that you're seeing it now, where it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the facts are. It doesn't actually matter
Speaker 1: what the truth of any situation may be. What matters
Speaker 1: is does this help the cause? It is very Soviet
Speaker 1: in a sense. I mentioned before what it's like to
Speaker 1: travel from east to West Berlin or the closest thing
Speaker 1: to it for an American today, and that is going
Speaker 1: from a lockdown, a core lockdown place like New York
Speaker 1: City and finding yourself in Florida. I'm an Orlando obviously
Speaker 1: for seedpac But the Soviet Union was a place where
Speaker 1: the truth didn't matter, the facts didn't matter. There was
Speaker 1: the storyline that the people in power demanded, and if
Speaker 1: you deviated from it, you well, in that case, of course,
Speaker 1: could be sent to the Gulag, you could be executed.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was worse than it is here. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's the same, but the mentality is similar.
Speaker 1: And the erosion of freedom that we've had, really the
Speaker 1: threat to freedom, the damage to freedom that has occurred
Speaker 1: in the last year in America is unlike anything else
Speaker 1: we've ever experienced. So I do think it's legitimate. I
Speaker 1: do think it's fair for us to sit around and say,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, how much more of this can
Speaker 1: we take before we are crossing that rubicon? And have
Speaker 1: we already crossed it? In somebodys Are we on a
Speaker 1: glide path now toward a near totalitarian state? I know
Speaker 1: it's a scary thought. And you could say, oh, that's
Speaker 1: We're still a country with rule of law, and we're
Speaker 1: still a country where things, you know, you still have
Speaker 1: constitutional protection. How long are you going to have that for?
Speaker 1: Do we really think that that just injuries? You really
Speaker 1: think that that continues no matter who's in charge, who's
Speaker 1: in power. In fact, if you look at the totalitarianisms
Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, they arose out of periods of
Speaker 1: liberal reform. They arose from democracies. People didn't expect it
Speaker 1: to happen in the Soviet Union. The didn't expect it
Speaker 1: to happen in Nazi Germany, or rather they didn't know
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. I think of the Soviet Revolution,
Speaker 1: people they don't study it in school. I mean, I
Speaker 1: really believe that, you know, academics want Americans to be
Speaker 1: ignorant of socialism and the history of socialism throughout the
Speaker 1: twentieth century, obviously starting with Karl Marx went well before them,
Speaker 1: but then into the twentieth century totalitarianisms, because if you
Speaker 1: know about these things, you're terrified of them and you
Speaker 1: want to fight them with everything you've got. If you
Speaker 1: understand what it is from history to live in a
Speaker 1: society where the truth does not matter, then you understand
Speaker 1: how much you have to fight to prevent us from
Speaker 1: descending into that. And that then brings me to the
Speaker 1: Soviet style absurdity of what happened at Smith College. Now
Speaker 1: I know this place well. I can tell you that
Speaker 1: there are there are dorms there, There are dormitories that
Speaker 1: are segregated by sexual preference and by or sexual orientation
Speaker 1: or whatever we're supposed to say. Now to the point
Speaker 1: where you'd think, well that that can't be that complicated,
Speaker 1: well it actually does get very complicated very quickly, because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different preferences and a lot
Speaker 1: of different self identifications that go into it. I could
Speaker 1: not even begin to tell you how many different sexual
Speaker 1: orientations are represented on the Smith College campus. I'm being serious.
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea because there are so many
Speaker 1: and they're constantly changing, right there are new ones that
Speaker 1: come up, and you're not allowed to you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to say, hold on a second, is that is that good?
Speaker 1: Is that healthy? Is that moral? You can't ask any
Speaker 1: of those questions. If you do, you're a bigot. You're
Speaker 1: a bigot. You see, the the wokeness has been weaponized
Speaker 1: in our society. That's what you're experiencing now. The terms
Speaker 1: that they've been building up over many years, the frameworks
Speaker 1: for assaulting people verbally, professionally destroying their lives. They've gotten stronger,
Speaker 1: they've gotten more, and now they feel flush with power.
Speaker 1: Now they feel like they can get away with whatever
Speaker 1: they have to, whatever they need to. And we're experiencing
Speaker 1: that right now, and we don't have a particularly powerful
Speaker 1: counter voice. We don't have somebody who can step up
Speaker 1: and say enough. It feels like there's a void on
Speaker 1: our side. And yes, that is certainly a large part
Speaker 1: of it is the absence of Rush Limbaugh right now.
Speaker 1: So I understand the concerns that people have. I understand
Speaker 1: the feeling that we seem like we can't win this fight.
Speaker 1: But we can. We will. First though, we have to
Speaker 1: establish what it is that's going on, and that brings
Speaker 1: me back to Smith College specifically. Inside this is the
Speaker 1: New York Times piece Inside a battle over race, class
Speaker 1: and power at Smith, a student said she was racially
Speaker 1: profiled while eating in a college dorm. An investigation found
Speaker 1: no evidence of bias, but the evidence, but the incident
Speaker 1: will not fade away. That headline gives you a pretty
Speaker 1: good overview of what happened at Smith College. But here's
Speaker 1: a shorter, better version of it. A black female student
Speaker 1: at Smith claimed there was racism when there was no racism,
Speaker 1: even went so far as to lie about who was
Speaker 1: even involved in the alleged incident. Ruined lives, got people threatened,
Speaker 1: people's people's livelihoods destroyed, and there was absolutely absolutely no
Speaker 1: consequences or punishment for her whatsoever. The only people who
Speaker 1: suffered were the innocent. The only people who had any
Speaker 1: downside in this whole situation were those who did nothing wrong,
Speaker 1: including thirty plus year employees of this college. Overrun by
Speaker 1: psycho libs, completely destroyed by wokeness. And it's really a
Speaker 1: perfect example of what the modern American college campus is.
Speaker 1: And I want you all to think about this before
Speaker 1: you get to the point where you're going to send
Speaker 1: your child, send your son, your daughter to a now
Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars a year boondoggle at a place like
Speaker 1: Smith it is an unseerious place ethically, intellectually, the same
Speaker 1: thing as true of Amer's College, where I went, by
Speaker 1: the way, unserious places hard to get into academically for
Speaker 1: some people, not as hard for others. That's a whole
Speaker 1: other conversation. In fact, not hard at all, depending on
Speaker 1: who you are. But how did a completely innocent person
Speaker 1: get destroyed at Smith College? How did fake racism ruin lives? Well,
Speaker 1: that's the story we have to tell now. This is
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow fuck on Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 1: and Twitter. Here's the tale from the New York Times
Speaker 1: story by Michael Powell in the midsummer of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: Umu Kanuete, a black student at Smith College, recounted a
Speaker 1: distressing American tale. She was eating lunch and a dorm
Speaker 1: lounge when a janitor and a campus police officer walked
Speaker 1: over and asked her what she was doing there. The officer,
Speaker 1: who could have been carrying a lethal weapon, left her
Speaker 1: near meltdown. These are quotes from a Miss Kanawate wrote
Speaker 1: on her Facebook saying this encounter continued a year long
Speaker 1: pattern of harassment at Smith. All I did was b black.
Speaker 1: Kanoete wrote, It's outrageous that some people question my being
Speaker 1: at Smith College and my existence overall as a woman
Speaker 1: of color. The college's president, Kathleen McCartney, offered profuse apologies
Speaker 1: and put the janitor on paid leave. This painful incident
Speaker 1: reminds us of the ongoing legacy of racism and bias,
Speaker 1: the president wrote, in which people of color are targeted
Speaker 1: whilst simply going about the business of their ordinary lives.
Speaker 1: The New York Times, the Washington Post, and CNN picked
Speaker 1: up the story of a young black female student harassed
Speaker 1: by white workers the American Civil Liberties Union, which took
Speaker 1: the student's case that she was profiled for quote eating
Speaker 1: while black. Less attention was paid three months later, when
Speaker 1: a law firm hired by Smith College to investigate the
Speaker 1: episode found no persuasive evidence of bias. Miss Counterwetday was
Speaker 1: determined to have eaten in a deserted dorm that had
Speaker 1: been closed for the summer. The janitor had been encouraged
Speaker 1: to notify the security on campus if he saw unauthorized
Speaker 1: people there, and the officer, like all campus police, was unarmed.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was a lie. Very important that you
Speaker 1: know this right away. The whole thing was a lie.
Speaker 1: There was no profiling, there was no racism. And it
Speaker 1: gets worse actually than this. It's it's even worse than
Speaker 1: you think. Smith College officials were emphasizing reconciliation and healing
Speaker 1: after the incident, The New York Times rights. In the
Speaker 1: months to come, they announced a raft of anti bias
Speaker 1: training for all staff, a revamped and more sensitive campus
Speaker 1: police force, and the creation of dormitories set aside for
Speaker 1: black students and other students of color. End quote. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a thing that continues to happen in these campuses.
Speaker 1: There are dorms that are segregated at the request of,
Speaker 1: at the demand of minority students, and in some cases
Speaker 1: at my college, at Amherst College, which is right down
Speaker 1: the road from Smith, and they you can take all
Speaker 1: classes at one. You can take all the classes from
Speaker 1: one when you're at the other. So there is a
Speaker 1: lot a crossover at these schools. And Smith is an
Speaker 1: all women's college. Although I'm being serious, I don't know
Speaker 1: how they describe that now, because there are gender fluid
Speaker 1: people who attend Smith who are not biological females. So
Speaker 1: they've they've eliminated gender from the student constitution. I'm serious.
Speaker 1: So I didn't even know it's all women, except it's
Speaker 1: not all women. That's the best way I could put
Speaker 1: it to you. And that's just a biological fact. So
Speaker 1: this situation, this story, reminds me of so many things
Speaker 1: that I saw going on when I was on campus.
Speaker 1: And it's not surprising at all that this is how
Speaker 1: the administrators, the cowardly administrators, acted about all of this.
Speaker 1: Because here's part of the problem. Not only was there
Speaker 1: no bias, This student, miss Kannowete, wrote on her Facebook
Speaker 1: page and put a photo up. She docks a worker
Speaker 1: whom she thought, I mean, you really at again in
Speaker 1: the details of the story, she thought was the person
Speaker 1: who called the police or campus police, and she was wrong.
Speaker 1: She docks the wrong person. She thought a cafeteria worker
Speaker 1: was the one who said that she you know, who
Speaker 1: called security on her. So let's go down the list here.
Speaker 1: Remember this is a big national story, and the list
Speaker 1: is there was no bias found in the incident, whatsoever.
Speaker 1: This woman, miss Kennoete, was eating in a dorm that
Speaker 1: was closed for the summer. She should not have been there,
Speaker 1: She was not allowed to be there under the rules
Speaker 1: of the college. She just decided she was gonna open
Speaker 1: it for herself and lounge out and hang out and
Speaker 1: do the whole thing right. She was laying out over
Speaker 1: over some benches or couches or something and in a
Speaker 1: dark room, in a dark uh I think it actually
Speaker 1: is a lounge room, and a custodian, a janitor saw
Speaker 1: her and did exactly what he was supposed to do,
Speaker 1: which they said, call security, And so unarmed security showed
Speaker 1: up and said, hey, you know, what are you supposed
Speaker 1: to what are you doing here? And she wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to be there, and security had a nice polite conversation
Speaker 1: or they said, hey, can you go to one of
Speaker 1: the other dorms. This dorm is closed. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of, you know, somebody like at a
Speaker 1: at a stadium or something. You know, if one of
Speaker 1: the security guys comes up to you says, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you're actually in twenty four A and need to be
Speaker 1: in twenty four C. Could you move over? Because here
Speaker 1: are some other You know, this is a nothing burger event.
Speaker 1: This is nothing. But here's what you have to know.
Speaker 1: This black female student at Smith College, miss Kanuete, she
Speaker 1: knows the rules of the game now, and she knows, Ah,
Speaker 1: I don't like this. I might have been embarrassed for
Speaker 1: a moment by this for whatever reason, because I wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. But the rules don't really apply
Speaker 1: to me because I'm oppressed. I'm special, you see, and
Speaker 1: I have a lot of power as long as I
Speaker 1: play the right card. And so she did. She said
Speaker 1: that she was terrified because the officer might have had
Speaker 1: a weapon, but all campus officers are unarmed at Smith,
Speaker 1: and she would know that she's a student there, and
Speaker 1: she could also see when somebody has a gun as
Speaker 1: a police officer, you know, you can see it on them.
Speaker 1: There was no weapon. This was just somebody who walked up.
Speaker 1: It was a security guard. Basically, he said, hey, this
Speaker 1: dorm is closed. She went on a rampage online and
Speaker 1: she decided that she was going to get even the
Speaker 1: Smith College president who makes half a million dollars a
Speaker 1: year in salary, five hundred k plus folks and also
Speaker 1: all kinds of benefits and basically just goes to cocktail
Speaker 1: parties and give speeches that people write on occasion. That's all,
Speaker 1: that's her job. She decided it was time to go
Speaker 1: full woke and throw people under the bus. They put
Speaker 1: the janitor who couldn't even see if miss Kannoete was
Speaker 1: male or female on leave, and because they had a
Speaker 1: transcript of the phone call. You're not going to believe
Speaker 1: what Knawete decided to do when the transcript of the
Speaker 1: phone call came out. Get ready for it. You're in
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Speaker 1: dot com How fake racism destroys lives. You can consider
Speaker 1: this a one oh one class today based on this
Speaker 1: story at Smith College. And again, I am here at Spack,
Speaker 1: So if you hear any commotion in the background, it's
Speaker 1: because I'm at Spack in Orlando, Florida and just getting
Speaker 1: a taste of being in a free state like Florida
Speaker 1: instead of a lockdown state like New York. It's pretty
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, it's pretty amazing. But now I have to
Speaker 1: get back into this really troubling story that is I
Speaker 1: think that the single, the single most upsetting story of
Speaker 1: abuse of this new weaponization of racism claims that you
Speaker 1: see going on, and it happens on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: We all know this stuff happens. And here you have
Speaker 1: Smith College, a Bucolic all women's college, although I don't
Speaker 1: know if they say that anymore, because that so gender fluid,
Speaker 1: and there's you know, gender is just a state of
Speaker 1: mind and all that stuff. And I know this place
Speaker 1: very well. I tried to convince my little sister that
Speaker 1: it wasn't really for her. She went and visited, and
Speaker 1: then she managed to find on her own that it
Speaker 1: was not a place where a rational person would want
Speaker 1: to spend four years. It is, by the way, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this beautiful town, Northampton, great food, beautiful town.
Speaker 1: The winners there are very cold and snowy, but also
Speaker 1: quite lovely in their own way. But Smith has been
Speaker 1: ruined by ideology. It used to be that Amherst was
Speaker 1: a men's college where I went, and Smith was a
Speaker 1: women's college as well as Holyoak, and the people would
Speaker 1: go to school there and they would often find their
Speaker 1: their future spouse there and that was the system. And
Speaker 1: then Amherst went co ed and Smith and Holyoak went
Speaker 1: in a different direction, not quite co ed, but not
Speaker 1: quite not co ed. I don't know what you'd I
Speaker 1: don't know how to describe it exactly. So this story
Speaker 1: that I've been telling you, you you have this, this student
Speaker 1: who claimed bias at a very minor incident where everything
Speaker 1: was by the book. There was nothing, there was nothing
Speaker 1: that was in any way, and a law firm that
Speaker 1: specializes in bias investigations did a full, full look into
Speaker 1: this and said, there's nothing here, nothing here, nothing, but
Speaker 1: nothing happened, there was no incident. But we've so trained
Speaker 1: people today, especially people who are gen Z, people who
Speaker 1: are millennials, We've so trained them to look to look
Speaker 1: for bias where none exists, because they recognize it as
Speaker 1: a lever of power. It's a tool that can be used,
Speaker 1: it makes people feel good. It's a form of reverse bullying.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened here. You have the college
Speaker 1: president making five hundred k plus a year. You have
Speaker 1: a student who decided that she was the target of
Speaker 1: a race of a racist incident where there was no
Speaker 1: reason to believe that that was the case. And you
Speaker 1: also have a student who I would be very curious
Speaker 1: to know is she paying tuition? How much tuition is
Speaker 1: she paying? Was she in any way assisted as a
Speaker 1: diversity admit to the school? You know, these are the
Speaker 1: questions that if we're really going to have a fair
Speaker 1: and equitable college admissions process, shouldn't we be able to
Speaker 1: know some of these things? Shouldn't we abill to know
Speaker 1: what the advantage is in the admissions process for people
Speaker 1: who have a particular background, by the way, including legacies,
Speaker 1: including athletes, but also including the advantages of race in admissions,
Speaker 1: which we all know are very real there. It's actually
Speaker 1: an enormous advantage. And if you have parents from Molly
Speaker 1: from what is Northwest Africa, which miss which this student does, Kennet,
Speaker 1: Miss kene Wete, then that's a that's a tremendous advantage
Speaker 1: in the admissions process too. So she's going to a
Speaker 1: school where she was admitted in part likely it's likely
Speaker 1: that she was admitted in part because of the advantage
Speaker 1: of her race, because it is true that there is
Speaker 1: a racial advantage in admissions in colleges. We know that
Speaker 1: that's a fact. It's established. Screame Court looks at it.
Speaker 1: I know people don't like to talk about it. It's true,
Speaker 1: this happens not if you're Asian. If you're Asian, too bad.
Speaker 1: You know, it's rough for you. But Democrats don't need
Speaker 1: to create the same framework of disadvantage for you. They're
Speaker 1: they're not they're not claiming that you're so deeply oppressed.
Speaker 1: And so this is the other part of this though,
Speaker 1: that really that really got my attention. You have It's remarkable,
Speaker 1: miss Kinda when the transcript because the custodian, the janitor
Speaker 1: called in to student security, or to a campus security
Speaker 1: rather called then and said, you know that I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell if it was a male or female because didn't
Speaker 1: even look, just knew that somebody was in a dark
Speaker 1: lounge area of a closed off dorm, and the and
Speaker 1: the advice and look, these campuses are very open to
Speaker 1: the public. There are there are vagrants, and there are
Speaker 1: people that are you know, trespassing and are not supposed
Speaker 1: to be there. That does happen. I had a very
Speaker 1: dear friend who was attacked in her bed by a
Speaker 1: local of some of some sort. And you know, I
Speaker 1: remember running around the building when I when I found
Speaker 1: out what had happened, trying to find this guy. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there there are incidents that happened even in
Speaker 1: a sleepy town like this. But what ended up happening
Speaker 1: here that I thought was so interesting was that she
Speaker 1: found out that this guy didn't know her gender and
Speaker 1: said he because he because he couldn't see into the
Speaker 1: room and it was dark. He assumed it was a
Speaker 1: he that that she was upset that she was misgendered.
Speaker 1: That was another part of the complaint. Later on, she
Speaker 1: was misgendered. Oh yes, I'm sure this guy on purpose
Speaker 1: did that. Right. This janitor who's been working at the
Speaker 1: college for years and years, who and it's written the article,
Speaker 1: is making forty thousand dollars a year. Okay, this guy
Speaker 1: is just this is your average every day American working hard.
Speaker 1: And I know what those janitors. I became very good
Speaker 1: friends with the janitor at Amer's College, particularly my junior year.
Speaker 1: I lived in a dorm called cross It, and I
Speaker 1: remember having talks with him, I mean about the stuff
Speaker 1: that he would have to you know, I know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be gross, but college kids act like savages,
Speaker 1: Okay they do. And you know this is somebody's dad.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a wife and kids. He was
Speaker 1: cleaning up vomit and urn and all the time, all
Speaker 1: the time, these little brats would act like that. And
Speaker 1: you know, he was getting paid. He was supposed to
Speaker 1: be getting paid to, you know, make sure the facilities
Speaker 1: look nice and everything functions, and to change light bulbs
Speaker 1: when necessary. And and instead a lot of his job was,
Speaker 1: you know, cleaning up the vomit and urine of privileged
Speaker 1: brats and hooting woke privilege brats in particular, I might add.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is this is another instance here
Speaker 1: where the facts do not matter. As I've told you now,
Speaker 1: there was no reason to believe there was bias. There
Speaker 1: was nothing about this incident that has any connection to
Speaker 1: what a rational person would think is racist or is wrong.
Speaker 1: But it didn't matter. That's the other part of this.
Speaker 1: Smith College still put the janitor on paid leave. Another
Speaker 1: woman who was a cafeteria worker, Cannowete, decided that she
Speaker 1: was going to out her because she didn't realize who
Speaker 1: it was at first who called security. And so what
Speaker 1: ended up happening was she she uh said the wrong
Speaker 1: and said the wrong person, she gave the wrong name.
Speaker 1: It's really awful, really awful. So you know, this is
Speaker 1: student work. By the way, just just to give you
Speaker 1: some more of the details here, student workers were not
Speaker 1: supposed to use the Tyler cafeteria, which was reserved for
Speaker 1: a camp for summer children. That's why you weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to have students in these different in some of the cafeterias,
Speaker 1: some of these areas, and the summer camp area was
Speaker 1: off limits. That was the whole, the whole thing here.
Speaker 1: But even the janitors knew that if they had to
Speaker 1: enforce any of these rules, they were in trouble. We
Speaker 1: used to joke, don't let her rich student report you,
Speaker 1: because if you do, you're gone. Mark Patanade said, he's
Speaker 1: a janitor. Miss Knoette took her food and walked through
Speaker 1: a set of French doors, crossed a foyer, reclined in
Speaker 1: the shadowed lounge of a dormitory close for the summer,
Speaker 1: where she scrolled the webb. As she ate, a large
Speaker 1: stuffed bear obscured the view of her from the cafeteria.
Speaker 1: So it was kind of a lounge off of a
Speaker 1: cafeteria in a dorm It's complicated, but but she thought
Speaker 1: that somebody else was the one who called security. It
Speaker 1: was a janitor. She thought it was a different person,
Speaker 1: and she out of that person. Miss Blair, the cafeteria worker,
Speaker 1: received an email from a reporter at The Boston Globe
Speaker 1: asking her to comment on why she called secure to
Speaker 1: him Miss Kennoete for quote eating while black. That puzzled her,
Speaker 1: The author writes here, what did she have to do
Speaker 1: with this? The food services director called the next morning, Jackie,
Speaker 1: He said, you're on Facebook. She found that Miss Kennoeta
Speaker 1: had posted her photograph, name and email. This is the
Speaker 1: racist person, Miss Kannoeta wrote of Miss Blair, adding that
Speaker 1: Miss Patnade, mister Paternada, rat of the janitor, was also guilty.
Speaker 1: He in fact worked an early shift that day and
Speaker 1: had already gone home at the time of the incident.
Speaker 1: Miss Kennoeta also lashed out of the Smith administration, They're
Speaker 1: essentially enabling racist, cowardly acts. Miss Blair. Again, the entirely
Speaker 1: innocent party who did not call the police had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with this, Okay, Just to be very clear,
Speaker 1: person was just doing her job working as a cafeteria worker,
Speaker 1: making you know, thirty seven thirty eight grand year whatever
Speaker 1: it is. She has Lupa's a disease of the immune
Speaker 1: system and stress triggers episodes, shed up going to the
Speaker 1: hospital because of all this. I mean, you just go
Speaker 1: through this and you know what it is. You have
Speaker 1: a couple of white working class, hard working of employees
Speaker 1: of Smith College totally thrown under the bus by the
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand all year white female president of Smith College,
Speaker 1: very privileged person, because a black female student decided that
Speaker 1: she was going to have some fun with weaponizing a
Speaker 1: racism accusation. This isn't just about Smith College for those
Speaker 1: who aren't a wise buck spending so much time today
Speaker 1: on one school in Massachusetts. And yes there's some nostalgia
Speaker 1: for me because I spent a lot of time there
Speaker 1: and have a lot of stories I can tell you
Speaker 1: about that place, bizarre ones. But it's because this is
Speaker 1: actually now corporate culture too. This is across the whole country.
Speaker 1: This is what wokeness means. It doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. It's a conversation we need to have.
Speaker 1: They'll tell you. It doesn't matter if you are just
Speaker 1: enforcing the rules as they're supposed to be. You offended
Speaker 1: somebody who's a minority. Are protected minority because remember some
Speaker 1: minorities are protected and others aren't. Doesn't matter what the
Speaker 1: truth is, doesn't matter what you did. All that matters
Speaker 1: in this is that the wokeness gets to pick people
Speaker 1: to destroy. It's about power. It's about power for people
Speaker 1: who claim they don't have it, but they know that
Speaker 1: as long as they play this game, they do and
Speaker 1: they enjoy it, they get they get a thrill out
Speaker 1: of it. Ruining the lives of working class people who
Speaker 1: are who are cleaning up, who are literally cleaning up
Speaker 1: vomit and throw up, and the mess that these brats
Speaker 1: leave behind all the time. Get them death threats online,
Speaker 1: which happened to the cafeteria worker and the jender. Get
Speaker 1: them death threats online, make them unemployable, and other jobs
Speaker 1: they try to look for, which also happened because a
Speaker 1: black female student didn't like being told you're not actually
Speaker 1: supposed to be eating in here, Could you please go
Speaker 1: to the other cafeteria. That's the America we actually live
Speaker 1: in today. That's reality. That's what wokeness is. That's what
Speaker 1: this story is. Don't forget it, because this is what
Speaker 1: we're contending with now. This is instead instead of Soviet
Speaker 1: class struggle, we have Soviet style racial Marxism in this country. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening, and it's destroying us, it's pulling us apart.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation
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Speaker 1: look at this a news story breaking today. Actually that
Speaker 1: is tying in with exactly what we've been or some
Speaker 1: of what we've been talking about. In the last hour.
Speaker 1: Supreme Court asked to outlaw race based college admissions. A
Speaker 1: group challenging Harvard admissions policies says it files an appeal
Speaker 1: asking the Court over the two thousand and three Grutter decision.
Speaker 1: This is Gruttter v. Bollinger. This is uh, this is excellent.
Speaker 1: Supreme Court has now been has not been asked to
Speaker 1: outlaw race based admissions. Let's be very clear about this.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court should absolutely outlaw race based admissions. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's no good faith way to, no good faith
Speaker 1: way to argue that this isn't an Equal Protection clause violation.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's an Equal Protection clause violation. And the
Speaker 1: way that this is finally coming to the forefront. I
Speaker 1: think is because of Asian Americans and their treatment in
Speaker 1: this whole process, because if we have you know, you're
Speaker 1: always told that there's this system of white supremacy, that's
Speaker 1: what they'll say, a system of white supremacy in America.
Speaker 1: And they've been expanded that term white supremacy tremendously, right,
Speaker 1: They've expanded it a whole heck of a lot, so
Speaker 1: that now it includes things that no reasonable person before
Speaker 1: would have ever thought constitutes white supremacy. I mean, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought that, right, But now it's whatever they
Speaker 1: say it is. It's whatever the left, whatever the woke
Speaker 1: mob decides constitutes white supremacy, is just that. And the
Speaker 1: problem that they have to contend with is that the
Speaker 1: average Asian American household makes more money in America than
Speaker 1: the average white American household does that the people who
Speaker 1: are most overrepresented as a percentage of population in elite
Speaker 1: colleges across the country are Asian Americans, not in fact,
Speaker 1: white Americans. So how is it that we have a
Speaker 1: system that they tell us is dedicated to the perpetuation
Speaker 1: the elevation, unfair elevation of one race in America? But
Speaker 1: that's not even accurate based on the facts about who
Speaker 1: is the most elevated as a percentage of population in
Speaker 1: elite institutions and when it comes to household wealth and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. How is that possible? How can
Speaker 1: you argue, for example, that Hispanic and Latino of Americans
Speaker 1: or Hispanic or Latino I refuse to use this term
Speaker 1: latin x. I've actually never met a Latino or Hispanic
Speaker 1: person who likes the term Latin X. So I think
Speaker 1: that's always that's always a tell. But how is it
Speaker 1: that you can explain at Harvard, at Stanford, at you name,
Speaker 1: at University of Michigan. That's where the Grutter v. Bollinger
Speaker 1: decision was, University of Michigan. How can you explain the
Speaker 1: situation where Asian Americans are discriminated against, but Latino Americans
Speaker 1: get a they get a benefit in the admissions process.
Speaker 1: Why is that fair? There's no leg a see of
Speaker 1: slavery to discuss when you're talking about Latino Latino applicants. So,
Speaker 1: and also what really constitutes even being in one of
Speaker 1: these categories. Another problem they have is that categories like
Speaker 1: white and Latino, and and even a category like black,
Speaker 1: there are so many variations within these categories. So you know,
Speaker 1: being African American is a is a different thing, and
Speaker 1: you have had a different experience than being somebody who
Speaker 1: comes from Nigeria or Molly or Cameroon. Right, it's a
Speaker 1: different thing. You've had a different experience. Being a white
Speaker 1: person can be somebody who grew up, you know, on
Speaker 1: Martha's vineyard, for Heaven's sakes, or you could be somebody
Speaker 1: who is very light skinned from northern Iraq or Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: There are Caucasians in fact, throughout much of the Western
Speaker 1: Eurasia who are just as white as anybody else, and
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of their actual skin, you'd see
Speaker 1: them and say, well, they're they're white, and they have
Speaker 1: all kinds of oppression and problems that they've had to
Speaker 1: deal with, systemic problems. These categories are so messy as
Speaker 1: to be meaningless, except they're not about fair, They're about power.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure
Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart radio app
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm here at Seepack,
Speaker 1: which is fun because I get to see buddies of
Speaker 1: mine that I usually get to interact with on a
Speaker 1: virtual level. I get to have them call in or
Speaker 1: join by Skype or whatever. But Ben Ferguson of The
Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson Show is here with me, and Ben I
Speaker 1: gotta tell everybody you. You were supposed to bring your
Speaker 1: tennis rackets so we could play, and I did not
Speaker 1: bring mine. So the good news is I let you
Speaker 1: off the hook by the way I should have played
Speaker 1: it up. I should have seen like I was devastating
Speaker 1: when you walked up me, like I forgot my rackets,
Speaker 1: and I was relieved because I forgot mine too. But
Speaker 1: I should have held you on the hookback, dude, I
Speaker 1: had a court at two o'clock for us. I did
Speaker 1: not play that well. I was too nice to you.
Speaker 1: Two guys with side parts who like to play tennis,
Speaker 1: not go So what's it? What's it feel like for you?
Speaker 1: I want to know one thing. When you leave New
Speaker 1: York City and you arrive in Florida, Yes, there's some
Speaker 1: different rules and regulations. A people are still wearing masks
Speaker 1: here a lot and everything. But when you leave New
Speaker 1: York City and you get to Florida, you feel like
Speaker 1: this is kind of what normal life feel it's not
Speaker 1: quite normal here, but this is close. It's a lot
Speaker 1: closer to normal than anywhere else. How does it compare
Speaker 1: to to Texas and to Tennessee, to other states that
Speaker 1: you spend a lot of you where you're from a
Speaker 1: lot of time. So in in Tennessee, the state, the
Speaker 1: governor there, Governor Lee, has done a great job of saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be pro business, pro opening up. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna hold you back. We're gonna get we want to
Speaker 1: get the kids back to school. The problem is in
Speaker 1: big cities like Nashville and Memphis, they have their own
Speaker 1: health departments, so by law they get to make their rules.
Speaker 1: The governor can't overrun them. So they've been like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we shut down here. Like our restaurant was twenty five
Speaker 1: percent occupancy until like two weeks ago. No one can
Speaker 1: make a living do that. We're gonna lose the Area
Speaker 1: Restaurant Association. They believe that we'll probably lose at least
Speaker 1: forty percent of restaurants that will never open again. Like
Speaker 1: close here, the keys back, we're done, we've lost our business.
Speaker 1: We're done. Same thing in Houston. You've got you've got
Speaker 1: a mayor. They're hard core liberal right, big defund the
Speaker 1: police guy, you know, black lives matter, riots, protests, let's
Speaker 1: you know, and again a guy that has said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I have control. I'm gonna shut us down. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna have bars open, We're not gonna have tourism, We're
Speaker 1: not gonna have sports, We're not gonna have it. I
Speaker 1: mean they have, they have suffocated these cities, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna lose their thirty five They think thirty five percent
Speaker 1: of the restaurants will never reopen. How far down like
Speaker 1: estimate for us? Because I know you own a barbecue restaurant.
Speaker 1: And when the world opens, I've promised Band that I'm
Speaker 1: actually go and try his brisket and I'm going to
Speaker 1: compare it to the best Brooklyn hipster brisket. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be ruthless about this. I will. There are very
Speaker 1: few things I feel confident about a life. Buck There's
Speaker 1: two of them. One that my serve is going to
Speaker 1: be better than yours, and to the brisket. The brisket
Speaker 1: is going to be better than Brooklyn. I feel very
Speaker 1: confident in those two things. So first of all, don't
Speaker 1: worry if you beat me a tennis, I'll beat you
Speaker 1: in pink the obviously we're paddle sports guys. That's the
Speaker 1: way it has to go. And second of all, um,
Speaker 1: I just feel like the barbecue wars among various parts
Speaker 1: of this country is one of the few places where
Speaker 1: everybody is everyone's sort of convinced that if only you
Speaker 1: try the best of my regional variety, you will so
Speaker 1: I I it's funny. I'm a I'm an advocate for
Speaker 1: the barbecue world. It's a lost art. It is a
Speaker 1: it is is truly art. And there are there are
Speaker 1: people that I will take you to go see, and
Speaker 1: it's amazing who have built their own smokers their way,
Speaker 1: who cook their way, who show up at two in
Speaker 1: the morning and do it their way. There are some
Speaker 1: of the most amazing places that may disappear because of COVID.
Speaker 1: Right that I will take you two when you come
Speaker 1: to Memphis. But the restaurant industry in general, I think
Speaker 1: that's where you're at going kind of like, what do
Speaker 1: you do? I mean, look at our employees. They're underemployed
Speaker 1: right now, right I think Democrats were in favor of
Speaker 1: a living wage. We're underemployed because we've had employees, We've
Speaker 1: had to shift hours around it. We've had to lay
Speaker 1: off people, We've had to say we don't have enough hours. Fore,
Speaker 1: if you got to get a job somewhere else, get
Speaker 1: a job somewhere else. I'm sorry, because when you operate
Speaker 1: at twenty five percent for months on end, you don't
Speaker 1: need a full staff. You can't afford a full staff.
Speaker 1: I can only serve twenty five percent of the food
Speaker 1: I was serving before, and so this is destroyed those
Speaker 1: hourly workers. And we pay above average wages that are
Speaker 1: at my restaurant, something I care about, and I want
Speaker 1: to make sure that people are not struggling. You get
Speaker 1: you go. I want to be a good employer, but
Speaker 1: I've had to look at him going. I cannot employ
Speaker 1: you if you need to leave, I understand it. I
Speaker 1: can't give you forty hours because you would have to
Speaker 1: shut down. Yeah, and no one can make money at
Speaker 1: twenty five percent. I mean, I didn't realize barbecue has
Speaker 1: good margins, right it's I mean it does. It has
Speaker 1: good margins because you have a very simple menu. You
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of items on that menu. You
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of loss. Right if we cook
Speaker 1: briskets and we run out, we were proud of that.
Speaker 1: We put a huge sign up says out of brisket, right,
Speaker 1: we run out of ribs for the day, we run
Speaker 1: out of ribs. That happens, right, No, and it does.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of like a rite of passage, like, man,
Speaker 1: our stuff's good, we run out all the time, and
Speaker 1: so there's no there. It's a good margin, becauess, but
Speaker 1: there's no business that can run at twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: How long do you think they're going to continue that?
Speaker 1: Because my, my big we just went to fifty percent
Speaker 1: with no reason behind it, just arbitrary number. Like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying, because because in New York
Speaker 1: they just went from I make I make jokes about
Speaker 1: how stupid the lockdowns are, and and now I'm actually concerned.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Governor Cuomo listens to my show or
Speaker 1: something and goes, you know what, just to be a jackass,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the thing the opposite of what he'll do,
Speaker 1: the thing that I've been making fun of. For real.
Speaker 1: So I've been saying, because I said, why we open
Speaker 1: at twenty five percent? Why not twenty seven point five percent.
Speaker 1: You know, throw the margin right if this is based
Speaker 1: on science and the numbers shouldn't be rounded. They did,
Speaker 1: they did thirty five percent. Now they've gone from twenty
Speaker 1: five to thirty five, not even fifty. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: why stop there? When's the forty percent opening? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's all such arbitrary crap. And and my my concern
Speaker 1: is that people don't understand. Yes, they're going to let
Speaker 1: up on this for a little bit once the weather
Speaker 1: gets better. In all these places the cases are going
Speaker 1: way down, but they think that they have the right
Speaker 1: to reinstitute this, and there will be arasolis virus next
Speaker 1: winter time. There will be and might seem there, but
Speaker 1: it might be might. By the way, how do we
Speaker 1: handle flu? The flu has basically been eradicated according to CDC.
Speaker 1: Where did it go? Where did it go? The fluist
Speaker 1: has been around, so we're to believe And I want
Speaker 1: to be very clear, because you know, I get I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've had this. I've been attacked by
Speaker 1: the PolitiFact and those maniacs were just saying, yeah, of
Speaker 1: course the stories on how I'm telling partially true things.
Speaker 1: I'm like, also, known as seeing reality. But the flu
Speaker 1: is somehow gone. The flu will come back. I mean
Speaker 1: when I say somehow, that's just what they say. This
Speaker 1: is the masking and social distancing obviously didn't work very
Speaker 1: well this winter time overall. I mean you could say
Speaker 1: it worked a little bit if you want, but clearly
Speaker 1: we said all time records for debts and flu though
Speaker 1: is gone. These things will come back then at some level,
Speaker 1: and there will be a knee jerk reaction in places,
Speaker 1: even in places like Nashville, even place you look at
Speaker 1: Blue states and they're gonna be shutting down barbecue joins again,
Speaker 1: mark my word. The people that are making the decisions
Speaker 1: these health parts, they're elected by no one. They're appointed,
Speaker 1: which bothers me. Right, you've got Cuomo and others, right,
Speaker 1: But the people under them that all of a sudden
Speaker 1: got this power to shut down America, they're not elected
Speaker 1: by anybody. The health department that can shut down your business,
Speaker 1: that can find you thousands of dollars, that can take
Speaker 1: away your business license are elected by no one. And
Speaker 1: the nut and these rules. I'll just give you example.
Speaker 1: We November December, they said twenty five percent occupancy. Then
Speaker 1: they said but you, Buck Sexton, cannot sit the same
Speaker 1: table with Ben Ferguson. If you don't live in the
Speaker 1: same household, you're not allowed to sit together. And we
Speaker 1: had to check IDs. My father and I could make
Speaker 1: barbecue together all day at our restaurant. We could prepare briskets,
Speaker 1: trim briskets, put on firewood, work side by side all
Speaker 1: day long. But if we want to eat lunch together,
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to eat lunch toge at the same
Speaker 1: table because we don't live at the same address. So
Speaker 1: the rule they made was on top of the twenty
Speaker 1: five percent rule, the tables also had to be at
Speaker 1: least six feet apart, which took us below twenty five
Speaker 1: percent occupancy, even if their twenty five number. So we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, just which one is it? Is it six
Speaker 1: ft apart? Is it six feet apart or twenty five percent?
Speaker 1: Or is it I can't eat with anybody I don't
Speaker 1: live with. And then they said another arbitrary where they
Speaker 1: threw in there you can have no more than two adults,
Speaker 1: no more than two adults at the same table. So
Speaker 1: now is it two adults? Is it twenty five percent occupancy?
Speaker 1: Is it six feet apart is that we can't live
Speaker 1: in the same house on which one isn't I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out. So this is this is the
Speaker 1: other part of it that I try to tell everybody
Speaker 1: that there there was also something of a glee, at
Speaker 1: least in New York for the people that were making
Speaker 1: these decisions that they were really important all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: really powerful, really and you see this from some of
Speaker 1: the some of the decision making that was going on,
Speaker 1: where they would say things like we're going to we're
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and do deterrence enforcement, meaning we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna pick people and nail them because you're
Speaker 1: not doing enough of what we say. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you're talking about industries, restaurants is the one that's most
Speaker 1: don't but also the hotel industry, and they're sending out
Speaker 1: it in New York City, which is you know, it's
Speaker 1: also regionalized that even though this is a you know,
Speaker 1: a show that's on in all fifty states, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we all know our own we all know our own
Speaker 1: you know, nightmarish lockdown reality and in some places, I know,
Speaker 1: it's much worse than it is than others. But they
Speaker 1: would send in New York. They would send out sheriff's
Speaker 1: deputies for the City of New York. People didn't I
Speaker 1: worked for the MYPD and't even heard of the Sheriff's
Speaker 1: department where they come from. They sent out some law
Speaker 1: enforcement agency that has a few hundred people that work
Speaker 1: for it that are part of the sort of New
Speaker 1: York State, but the New York City version of the
Speaker 1: New York State sheriffs. And they were giving people enormous
Speaker 1: fines in restaurants that were struggling to just barely keep
Speaker 1: their doors open. Fifteen one hundred dollars fines for a
Speaker 1: dropped mask. I don't know if you guys saw this,
Speaker 1: but we i've noticed this. They picked restaurants that would
Speaker 1: get great press for the enforcement. We had restaurants that
Speaker 1: were kind of iconic restaurants that were getting picked on,
Speaker 1: and it's like they decided, Hey, if we can nail
Speaker 1: that up to headline, right, if we can go to
Speaker 1: that restaurant that everybody knows, it will get on the news.
Speaker 1: And that's how they picked the restaurant was how famous
Speaker 1: is it, how historic is it, what part of town
Speaker 1: is it in? Do people know that restaurant. Is it
Speaker 1: a significant restaurant with a chef that people would know?
Speaker 1: So we get a headline that will come after everyone
Speaker 1: it's sick. This is the Buck Sexton Show Podcast. Follow
Speaker 1: Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. All right, back with
Speaker 1: my buddy Ben Ferguson, who is a various dude political observer,
Speaker 1: but is delusional about being able to hit a harder
Speaker 1: first serup on the tennis court than me. So so, Ben,
Speaker 1: remember there's spacetime, and there's there's Zoom, there's Facebook. We
Speaker 1: can we can fix it. It's just we could do it,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with you. I'm fine with you actually
Speaker 1: having a festive serveup, but just if I have some
Speaker 1: kind of like a minor, you know, breath heaving cardiac
Speaker 1: event five minutes into our our one set tennis match,
Speaker 1: we gotta cut that. You play sets still? Oh, I
Speaker 1: just sit down the middle, see the same I played
Speaker 1: a ten off the ground. You know, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: ripped by everyone all across the country because they there
Speaker 1: are people that still seem to think that when you're
Speaker 1: got again, we're basically both forty now that we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be out there like playing like you know, tackle
Speaker 1: football or something. No one's played football since college, and
Speaker 1: if you think they have, you're weird. Lying. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: flag since with your kids it does not happening, Like
Speaker 1: why are you guys playing tennis? It's like, oh, do
Speaker 1: you want to play golf? This is what I literally laugh,
Speaker 1: can't handle it. So when I went to Ole Miss,
Speaker 1: my roommate was guy named Kevin. He played football oh
Speaker 1: line at Ole Miss. One of the biggest men you'll
Speaker 1: ever see. So I knock on the door and I
Speaker 1: don't know who he is, right, we get it was
Speaker 1: an athletic dorm. Got down there, and so I knocked
Speaker 1: on the door and this guy answers the door. My
Speaker 1: dad's sitting behind me. My dad's in law enforcement. And
Speaker 1: this guy, who's like six seven, looks at me and
Speaker 1: says to me, what the blank do you want? And
Speaker 1: I looked at him. I go, I'm your blanking roommate.
Speaker 1: He's smiled, laugh because I'm just I'm just messing. When
Speaker 1: you broke come on in. I was never been more
Speaker 1: afraid of my entire life. So we're sitting there and
Speaker 1: he's like that night we're talking to each other and
Speaker 1: he goes, I gotta tell you Ferguson, I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you my mom is not gonna believe it that I'm
Speaker 1: living with a white dude like you. True story. So
Speaker 1: we become my best friends and people are like, how
Speaker 1: did you guys get roommates? It was pot It was
Speaker 1: pot luck, right athlete athlete. They thriss together. So he
Speaker 1: asked you what He's like, Man, I gotta ask you.
Speaker 1: He's like, missed this tennis sport thing, like, why do
Speaker 1: you play this? Man? It doesn't see it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: you run around chasing a fuzzy ball. So I'll tell
Speaker 1: you two reasons. One, I'm still gonna be doing it
Speaker 1: in a year and a half when you're retired. He's like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean. I was like, you're never gonna
Speaker 1: put pads on the rest of your life after you graduate. Ever,
Speaker 1: I can play this and tell him seventy bro. The
Speaker 1: second reason I'm doing is because I'm not as big
Speaker 1: as you, and no one offered me a football scholarship.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Yeah, I wrote crew in college,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you that that's another. Were you
Speaker 1: an ivy leaguer, you kind of went to amorous I did,
Speaker 1: which is which is it's like you know Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Tier two of Ivy League. Is that like
Speaker 1: you almost made it. It's a college, it's like a
Speaker 1: different See now he's given me tough stuff because he
Speaker 1: knows he needs to get away with what he can
Speaker 1: before we step out of that tennis run around your life.
Speaker 1: So I was I was going to ask you because
Speaker 1: I know people are listening. They're like, this is just guys,
Speaker 1: it's so rare. You gotta understand for us, for people
Speaker 1: to see each other at CEPAC, to see your your
Speaker 1: friends and conservative media, we've all been completely usually. I
Speaker 1: mean we worked at CNN at the same time you
Speaker 1: bump into people in the green rooms, you at least
Speaker 1: you know are joining. There's been zero interaction for any
Speaker 1: conservative media we have not seen. So if we sound
Speaker 1: like we're you know, everyone here, and then you'll notice
Speaker 1: this in the next couple of days at least the
Speaker 1: people that we actually like that we see here. Um,
Speaker 1: if it sounds like a frat party reunion the Glory days,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. Kind of what it feels
Speaker 1: like for everybody right now here. So all right into
Speaker 1: some serious stuffcause people listen to show to actually get
Speaker 1: worthwhile information, not not you talk about Ben and Ben
Speaker 1: and Buck's old glory days. UM minimum wage yep, you
Speaker 1: going back to this. You own a small business, UM
Speaker 1: and minimum wage going a fifth ten dollars, just to
Speaker 1: just tell everybody, because well, well, first what do you
Speaker 1: think about the Democrat move here, and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about what it actually would do to a business like yours. Well,
Speaker 1: Democrat move here is they don't have the votes, so
Speaker 1: they're going to do it through reconciliation, which is going
Speaker 1: to break a crap ton of rules, right, and you
Speaker 1: would argue laws, but they don't care. They're gonna do
Speaker 1: it anyway. Reconciliation is only supposed to be able to
Speaker 1: be used for budget issues, and now they're claiming that
Speaker 1: an increasementum way is somehow budget issue, which it is not.
Speaker 1: It never has been cleared a budget issue. It is
Speaker 1: not a budget issue. So that's my number one problem
Speaker 1: with this is that we're going to do this without
Speaker 1: really anyone voting. Huge issue when you're mandating everybody in
Speaker 1: the country that employs people, especially somewhile business owners are
Speaker 1: going to have to pay an arbitrary random number they've
Speaker 1: come up with, which is fifteen dollars an hour. They
Speaker 1: claim that to living wage. The unions or who started this,
Speaker 1: to be clear, they lost manufacturing jobs, they lost their
Speaker 1: political muscle, and they said, where do we go next?
Speaker 1: They said, if we can go to hospitality and the
Speaker 1: fast food industry and those at stock shelves at grocery
Speaker 1: stores and we can unionize those people, will get our
Speaker 1: power back because they had all their hour and manufacturing
Speaker 1: and that disappeared in America under Obama. So during the
Speaker 1: Obama years, that's how this all came about. This is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent a union play for more power. They said,
Speaker 1: we need more members, we need more people paying dues,
Speaker 1: and we need to have more political muscle and represent
Speaker 1: a lot of people so we can scare the crap
Speaker 1: out of politicians and say to them, if you do
Speaker 1: what we tell you to do, we'll get you reelected
Speaker 1: every time. That's what union said for years, right decades.
Speaker 1: That's how Union boss has worked. It was thugs. It
Speaker 1: was all right, buck, you want to run for mayor,
Speaker 1: that's fine. You get the whole union behind you, will
Speaker 1: campaign for you, will support you, will vote for you.
Speaker 1: We'll get all our families before, but you got to
Speaker 1: give us what we demand. That power disappeared from unions,
Speaker 1: it did when the manufacturing jobs disappeared. So this is
Speaker 1: not about what's good for America. This is what's good
Speaker 1: for unionization. They see the potential that they can pull
Speaker 1: this off for massive amounts of union workers in this country.
Speaker 1: Second thing is going to happen for small bomb and
Speaker 1: pops like me is you're just gonna cut hours. That's
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. It's the same exact thing we
Speaker 1: saw happening with Obamacare. Remember when they said if you
Speaker 1: have fifteen employees or more that you have to offer
Speaker 1: healthcare for you if they work more than thirty one
Speaker 1: hours a week. So what happened. People that were working
Speaker 1: forty hours a week immediately got back cut back to
Speaker 1: twenty nine hours a week, and we're told to go
Speaker 1: find another eleven hours somewhere else. That just made their
Speaker 1: life harder because now you got to go work two
Speaker 1: hour two jobs. You're gonna have at least an hour
Speaker 1: in between if you even find something matches up. So
Speaker 1: you had millions of Americans that became under employed overnight.
Speaker 1: And let's not overlook the reality that all these companies
Speaker 1: have been watching this coming. They've seen it coming, they've
Speaker 1: already adapted. When was the last time? And again it's
Speaker 1: New York. It's a little different. Right. You got a
Speaker 1: lot of Mom and pops, but in larger grocery stores,
Speaker 1: there's no one checking you out anymore. It's all self checkout.
Speaker 1: It's all please scan your item and put it in
Speaker 1: the bag. Right. You go to any fast food rush
Speaker 1: right now, it's a lot of automation. Even banks are
Speaker 1: realizing this. You can't go to a teller drive through anymore.
Speaker 1: They don't exist. They're hardly anywhere. They want you to
Speaker 1: scan the check on your phone and upload it that way.
Speaker 1: They want you to do the mobile app because they
Speaker 1: don't want to employ people to take your check and
Speaker 1: shoot it in the tube and go to the other
Speaker 1: side and then put it in the computer for you.
Speaker 1: So the idea that we're gonna like this is actually
Speaker 1: gonna help Americans is insane. The Congressional Budget Office also
Speaker 1: has said, you'll have more people lose their jobs under this,
Speaker 1: under this decision, then we'll be taken out of poverty
Speaker 1: because of it, which is the whole claim of the left.
Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson, everybody of the Ben Ferguson Podcast, You guys
Speaker 1: canna check him out. He's going if anything untoward happens
Speaker 1: while I'm at spacks, will be involved. If there's any
Speaker 1: incident involving a borrowed booze bus or something that ends up.
Speaker 1: You know, if we get arrested for not wearing our masks,
Speaker 1: well that that's definitely gonna be a pen's fault. Maybe
Speaker 1: mine too. But Ben, great to see you, man, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining. Brother. Nice to see you. This
Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and
Speaker 1: message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket. iHeartMedia
Speaker 1: dot com. He may read it on the show. Because
Speaker 1: I'm here at Cepack in Orlando, Florida, I get to
Speaker 1: see a lot of my favorite people in conservative media.
Speaker 1: We just had my buddy Ben Ferguson with us, and
Speaker 1: now we have miss Anna Paulina Luna. She was a
Speaker 1: congressional candidate here in the Tampa area in this last
Speaker 1: cycle and is a conservative commentator and just all around
Speaker 1: great lady. A veteran, I feel like people don't they
Speaker 1: don't always remember you're a veteran. Correct. I actually did
Speaker 1: not wear my pin today, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: look at me and they say, no way of what
Speaker 1: I say. Of the military air force. There you go,
Speaker 1: and let's let's talk a little Florida, shall we. You ran,
Speaker 1: and you ran against Charlie christ a well known name
Speaker 1: in Florida politics here, and you're we're hoping going to
Speaker 1: run again because you had you had a strong showing.
Speaker 1: But people are talking rom de Santis in a pretty
Speaker 1: big way already for twenty twenty four because of well,
Speaker 1: there are folks like me who are seeing what's going
Speaker 1: on here and saying there was a better way to
Speaker 1: handle this pandemic, and Ron de Santis was one of
Speaker 1: the people pushing and actually enacting that way. Do you
Speaker 1: think that that's Are we already at a point where
Speaker 1: De Santis be talked about as a possible because that's
Speaker 1: a big part of seapack, right, We're gonna have the
Speaker 1: straw pole and all this stuff. What do you think?
Speaker 1: One hundred thousand percent? Although I'm a little bit selfish
Speaker 1: and I don't want to lose de santist, he is
Speaker 1: absolutely has proven over the last couple of months he's
Speaker 1: been absolutely incredible with his response to COVID, and now
Speaker 1: that we see the epic roasting of Cuomot, I think
Speaker 1: that it's only furthering that argument. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things that a lot of people are
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable with how the Democrats handled this total lockdown
Speaker 1: and push for control. They said it would only be
Speaker 1: what fourteen days, fifteen days, and we here we are
Speaker 1: months later, and now Florida's essentially become, I think, a
Speaker 1: refugee state for a lot of these small business owners
Speaker 1: and people that just don't want that totalitarian viewpoint, especially
Speaker 1: during a national pandemic. How has it been being down here?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Tampa, we're talking to Ben and
Speaker 1: there's the state versus the local reality. And because this look,
Speaker 1: the show is on in fifty states, right, so I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to talk about what's going on with lockdowns.
Speaker 1: And one of the challenges is that my my wonderful
Speaker 1: audience in Los Angeles or in Denver has a very
Speaker 1: different feel of what's going on with the lockdown than
Speaker 1: the people who listen in Montana or even rural Michigan
Speaker 1: or Illinois, for example. Right, They're like, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I go into like a store, I put on a mount.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, no one's really bothering me.
Speaker 1: How has it been Tampa versus the rest of Florida?
Speaker 1: So I'd say, you go to the Painhandle and they're
Speaker 1: completely they don't care about the mass. You go to
Speaker 1: places like Tampa and you have it same way in
Speaker 1: the stores, but you go out on a Friday night
Speaker 1: to the bars and there's not a mask in site.
Speaker 1: So I think that it really just depends. But I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are realizing one COVID had
Speaker 1: and does have a ninety nine point nine percent survival rate.
Speaker 1: De Santis has done a great job with giving the
Speaker 1: vaccine to those that need it the most, in other words,
Speaker 1: the older generation and senior citizens. So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are now realizing, Okay, if it's a
Speaker 1: more democrat area and Democrat controlled local government, that you'll
Speaker 1: see a stronger push for the mass. And then other
Speaker 1: than that, in the more conservative areas, you're not seeing
Speaker 1: the masking. What less since did you learn from your
Speaker 1: run for Congress here in Florida this last time around?
Speaker 1: That and just in general, your feel for where the
Speaker 1: GOP goes now? Right. I mean, you you saw what
Speaker 1: it was like you you were in those debates and
Speaker 1: those those fights for the twenty twenty election. Trump obviously
Speaker 1: is not president anymore. Joe Biden is sitting in the
Speaker 1: White House, and the Democrats have control in the House
Speaker 1: and de facto Senate majority. What do you feel like
Speaker 1: we what is the party now? What do we do now?
Speaker 1: People ask me this. I want to ask you because
Speaker 1: you actually had to like raise money convince people that
Speaker 1: the GOP as a future, um you know from me
Speaker 1: is a little bit different because I was never the
Speaker 1: establishment candidate. I was kind of that Trumpian, the candidate
Speaker 1: that came in and was not a part of the problem.
Speaker 1: As I say. What I really learned though, is that
Speaker 1: you know, people do have this old way of doing things, right,
Speaker 1: that old guard of what establishment politics was. And with
Speaker 1: Trump and what you're seeing now with those especially that
Speaker 1: just got into this past cycle, that are those younger
Speaker 1: voices of the GOP. They are your average Americans. It's
Speaker 1: not this you know, country yacht club type of Republican.
Speaker 1: It's your beer drinking, blue jean wearing, you know, boot
Speaker 1: slanging Republicans that you know have had normal jobs and realize, look,
Speaker 1: we don't want to have to do this, but we're
Speaker 1: doing this because we don't want government overreach. And you know,
Speaker 1: i'd say that people that you know want to be
Speaker 1: career politicians, they're probably sociopaths because it's hard and it's
Speaker 1: a great sacrifice. But for people like myself and moving forward,
Speaker 1: I think that what the Republican Party is realizing is
Speaker 1: that one you can't get rid of Trump. He started
Speaker 1: a movement, the American First Movement, that's here to stay.
Speaker 1: And I think that moving forward, if they want to
Speaker 1: ever target the American base the way that Trump did,
Speaker 1: that they're going to have to choose these dynamic candidates
Speaker 1: that can resonate with the base. Forty fifth President of
Speaker 1: the United States Donald Trump will be here this weekend giving,
Speaker 1: I believe, what's considered v keynote of the entire ce
Speaker 1: pack What are you? I know that you haven't been
Speaker 1: involved in the speech writing process of love. Told you were,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, but I know I think this
Speaker 1: time around they haven't. They haven't tapped you for it.
Speaker 1: What do you want to hear him say? I guess
Speaker 1: that's what's your version of the best possible message Trump
Speaker 1: can give you mentioned America first and where we are
Speaker 1: right now. I want to hear him say that he's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere from the GOP, that he will be
Speaker 1: definitely engaged in the twenty twenty two primaries because I
Speaker 1: think that that's where the Republican Party needs it the most.
Speaker 1: A lot of people tend to stay out of primaries.
Speaker 1: You should be getting involved because that's when you can
Speaker 1: filter out a lot of the bad candidates that can
Speaker 1: potentially become congressman. And that I also hope that he says,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he'll do it just yet,
Speaker 1: but that he is hoping to make a run in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm backing to Santis, but I still
Speaker 1: think that Trump could have done some great things for
Speaker 1: this country. He was the only president in my lifetime
Speaker 1: that didn't bring us into another foreign war, and I'm
Speaker 1: still adamantly opposed to the military industrial complex, and so
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he'll say that he's going to continue
Speaker 1: to lead this country and lead the party as well.
Speaker 1: We're speaking to Anna Paulina Lunas. She was a congressional
Speaker 1: candidate in Tampa. Here in Florida. We're right now in Orlando,
Speaker 1: but in Tampa, Florida, and she's sitting here with me
Speaker 1: at CEPAC. And you know you mentioned I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: talking on Friday with former It's gonna be me and
Speaker 1: deput National Security Advisor, former deput National Security Advisor Katie McFarland,
Speaker 1: who we're gonna be talking about big tech and China.
Speaker 1: So which is near. It's near and dear to my
Speaker 1: heart because there's the China issue and how that affects Americans.
Speaker 1: There's big tech against us, and then there's big tech
Speaker 1: colluding with Chinas. There's multiple layers. It's like big tech
Speaker 1: is is becoming clearly an enemy of free speech. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think that's beyond I think that's beyond
Speaker 1: a reasonable debate. But of course that's a debate. We
Speaker 1: we're gonna still have to have um on the foreign
Speaker 1: policy front, though. One of the GOP so called civil
Speaker 1: war issues or whatever people are saying. The fighting within
Speaker 1: the GOOP that keeps coming up is there's that that fear.
Speaker 1: I think, because Liz Channing in particular is one of
Speaker 1: the most vocal anti Trumpers, that the GOP wants to
Speaker 1: go back or that there there are powerful elements that
Speaker 1: want to go back to that. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: the g WAT. You know that era intervention. I mean,
Speaker 1: no one calls it. When I was in the CIA,
Speaker 1: we call it. It was always the g WAT, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's that's a no go now. But whatever it is,
Speaker 1: the the that intervention is feeling, do you think we're
Speaker 1: really passed that? I mean, you mentioned the military industrial
Speaker 1: complex and I know you're you're married to a Special
Speaker 1: Forces veteran. I worry that there are still a lot
Speaker 1: of people that haven't on our side, you know, generally speaking,
Speaker 1: Conservatives or Republicans or whatever, who haven't learned a lesson
Speaker 1: and still think that that's the way we like, basically,
Speaker 1: we're going to go to war with Iran. It's just
Speaker 1: a question when I will be like lying in front
Speaker 1: of the tank, so to speaking. Yeah, no, that's that's
Speaker 1: probably the worst thing that you could be promoting right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not that you are, but that these people who
Speaker 1: in my opinion, don't have any skin in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're willing to vote our and send our
Speaker 1: young men and women to war, but yet if they're
Speaker 1: not sending their own sons and daughters. Um, you know
Speaker 1: my viewpoint on that is I think that is considered controversial.
Speaker 1: I don't think many Republicans have had the viewpoint that
Speaker 1: I do, having seen firsthand what happens with our soldiers.
Speaker 1: But also too, you know, it's not the responsibility of
Speaker 1: the United States to be a world police. You know
Speaker 1: that a throwback movie. I think it was in the
Speaker 1: nineties that it came out. You know, we're not the
Speaker 1: global police for are you talking? Team America one of
Speaker 1: the one of the greatest movies ever made. I absolutely
Speaker 1: loved Team you know. They were going to make a
Speaker 1: sequel and they didn't. We'll say, I will say that
Speaker 1: is a movie. By the way, it is not for kids.
Speaker 1: I always have sometimes I talk about something on the show,
Speaker 1: and so it was like I was watching it with
Speaker 1: little Timmy and he's ten, and I had to cover
Speaker 1: his eyes. I'm like, this is not for kids at all,
Speaker 1: not even a little bit. But Team America is one
Speaker 1: of those very rare cinematic achievements where I was like
Speaker 1: both laughing and embarrassed that I was watching and wanted
Speaker 1: to turn it off but couldn't turn it off. But
Speaker 1: but back to the foreign policy side of this. I
Speaker 1: just I worry that I worry that there will be
Speaker 1: a shift back. I worry that we will be pushed
Speaker 1: toward a more interventionist active form. And I feel like
Speaker 1: from my perspective, I mean, I know, you know, your
Speaker 1: your husband was was an SF guy. I mean, as
Speaker 1: a CI person who was in a rock and Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: who was always looking up to the guys who were
Speaker 1: outside the wire every day and actually actually doing the
Speaker 1: house to house fighting and making sure that we were
Speaker 1: taking it to the enemy. I'm just like, we we've
Speaker 1: run this experiment. It doesn't work. It doesn't work, does
Speaker 1: not work. And if you ever ask a general for
Speaker 1: an opinion, it's probably the worst advice because obviously generals
Speaker 1: are going to be pro war. Generals are politicians. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell everybody. They're politicians. They are,
Speaker 1: And so I tell people, you know, look at the
Speaker 1: PAC money that the elected officials are taking. You know
Speaker 1: someone's looking for a lobbying gig with Raytheon or you
Speaker 1: know any one of these military contracting firms. Well, then
Speaker 1: obviously they're going to be voting to get us involved.
Speaker 1: But when you really look at the benefits that it
Speaker 1: does for a country. One, it's only increasing our deficit. Two,
Speaker 1: we're losing good people while we have all of these
Speaker 1: you know, woke topians on the internet saying that we
Speaker 1: need to be putting you know, little boys and girls
Speaker 1: dresses and this, that and the other. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so backwards, and I think that when you're really looking
Speaker 1: at the true sacrifice of what we have to offer
Speaker 1: as a country, we need to fix our problems at
Speaker 1: home first. We can't be focusing on, you know, doing
Speaker 1: gender education in Afghanistan, saying our tax dollars and people
Speaker 1: over there to do it. It's just not right. And
Speaker 1: you know, I do tend to call out other veterans
Speaker 1: that have been promoting the war agenda because I look
Speaker 1: at what they're really representing, and are they representing our
Speaker 1: service members And the answer is absolutely not. So I'd
Speaker 1: be the first person, especially in the presidential primary, to
Speaker 1: call these people out. And you know, I used to
Speaker 1: look up to NICKI Haley. I will no longer do
Speaker 1: so because I believe that she's one of those Republicans.
Speaker 1: I think You're right, Anna, Paulina Luna, everybody Anna where
Speaker 1: ship folks go to follow you in your work. I
Speaker 1: would say Twitter, but don't follow me on Twitter because
Speaker 1: I'm ann strike on Twitter. So any other social media
Speaker 1: at real on apol have they come after you have
Speaker 1: woke started to like ban you or suspending? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have actually an ongoing suit with Twitter right now. So
Speaker 1: we're actually working with Senator Loomas out in Wyoming to
Speaker 1: bring a cross action against U. Want to come come
Speaker 1: back this for a couple of minutes, Hold on, We're
Speaker 1: gonna continue to talk about the censorship from social media
Speaker 1: and we'll get into that with Anna Polina Luna here.
Speaker 1: In just one second, you're in the freedom Hunt. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the
Speaker 1: latest from Buck at buck Sexton dot com. All right,
Speaker 1: continuing my conversation with Anna Paulina Luna. We're here at
Speaker 1: Seapack in Orlando and she's sitting with me in broadcast Row,
Speaker 1: which is always a fun place to be. I hope
Speaker 1: a lot of you from team Buck would come by
Speaker 1: and say hi, And it was kind of funny. I
Speaker 1: guess the phrase the close of the show is shields High,
Speaker 1: and it was great. The first person I saw here
Speaker 1: saw me and gave me this big wink and went
Speaker 1: shields up and I was like post like I like it,
Speaker 1: you know like that that I get it. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: You get it. He gets it. He gets an a
Speaker 1: for effort um. But uh, but tell me this, um.
Speaker 1: We're talking about social media stuff. So you've you've been
Speaker 1: in an in a lawsuit. What's going on? So I
Speaker 1: filed the FEC complaint against Twitter for an illegal in
Speaker 1: kind contribution by failing to verify and suppressing my information
Speaker 1: when I was a candidate. And now that that's going
Speaker 1: up for review, we actually found a senator, Senator Loomis
Speaker 1: in Wyoming that actually found out what was happening with
Speaker 1: me and actually reached out to some of our donors.
Speaker 1: So we're working on a class action now currently against Twitter.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because the RNC has a similar case.
Speaker 1: In fact, we share the same attorney, but they filed
Speaker 1: a day after me. And now with DeSantis's big tech
Speaker 1: bill that he's pushing, it would allow the state of
Speaker 1: Florida to find companies like Twitter and Facebook, you know,
Speaker 1: a penalty per day that they suppressed candidates. So when
Speaker 1: I actually went through and totaled up the amount that
Speaker 1: Twitter would actually owe the state of Florida, pending that
Speaker 1: they do it again in a future election of mine,
Speaker 1: it would be three million dollars per month that they
Speaker 1: suppressed me. So that's pretty substantial for the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: This is great. I really want because the only way
Speaker 1: this changes is if we start inflicting pain on these
Speaker 1: companies for the decisions to suppress conservatives, which they're act
Speaker 1: be doing. So any way that I can help get
Speaker 1: the word out about this, I definitely want to want
Speaker 1: to do whatever I can because we will. I keep
Speaker 1: telling everybody this. You know, a lot of people listen
Speaker 1: to this on radio. They're on Facebook but maybe not
Speaker 1: that active, but they're not really generally a lot of
Speaker 1: them on you know, on TikTok and on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: if when I say on it, they're not using it
Speaker 1: daily in quite the same way. You know, where we
Speaker 1: have a lot of people who are you know, let's
Speaker 1: say forty and up who listen to listen to terrestrial radio.
Speaker 1: And so I think it's hard to it's hard for
Speaker 1: people who don't work in this space to really grasp
Speaker 1: what it means that social media companies are doing this.
Speaker 1: What it means is that all the websites, all the
Speaker 1: news organizations, every political issue that you care about is
Speaker 1: slanted against you now even if you don't use these
Speaker 1: things correct. And I think that's what I think when
Speaker 1: when people understand that this is we can't win as
Speaker 1: a party if the biggest, most powerful media companies in
Speaker 1: the country are actively suppressing us while pretending to be
Speaker 1: open platforms that having that section to thirty protection, it's
Speaker 1: game over. It's game over. And they're also too now
Speaker 1: launching these fact checking organizations. The DNC actually just launched one.
Speaker 1: It's twenty two million dollars in fact checking against memes.
Speaker 1: So they're actually controlling the information. And then as most
Speaker 1: people know a meme as a joke, it's usually a satire,
Speaker 1: and they're wanting to fact check that and then actually
Speaker 1: bring punitive action against people that share those memes if
Speaker 1: they don't agree with the information that's on them. So
Speaker 1: I've been targeted for multiple times for what I say
Speaker 1: about masks and about and by the way, I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a hardcore person about you know, things never
Speaker 1: work or I'll never do restrictions or whatever, but i'd
Speaker 1: know that I know what nonsense is, and I'll call
Speaker 1: out nonsense. I mean the fact that we're sitting here,
Speaker 1: for example, and the rules just everybody knows are a
Speaker 1: broadcast roll. Your mask can be down. If you stand up, though,
Speaker 1: and your three feet from the radio table, then the
Speaker 1: rules set by the Hyatt, not set by Sepack are
Speaker 1: you must have a mask on right away. There is
Speaker 1: no epidemiological basis for this whatsoever. There's no reason to
Speaker 1: believe that anyone who is walking past is more or
Speaker 1: less of it in danger. So I put on things
Speaker 1: like that. They the fact checkers that have come after me,
Speaker 1: like PolitiFact and these other ones. These are left wing hacks.
Speaker 1: It's basically media matters they're using. There are five or
Speaker 1: one c three and you know what happens when they
Speaker 1: when they ding you on something and then you you
Speaker 1: want to complain and say this is unfair. Yeah you
Speaker 1: have I think it's actually thirty six hours to contact
Speaker 1: them back, and if you miss that window, then that's it.
Speaker 1: They're not required to respond. And what's even worse is
Speaker 1: if you are someone like you or me and you
Speaker 1: have a monetized page, they then take your ability to
Speaker 1: use that for engagement and folks. You know what they
Speaker 1: tell you to do. They say, take it up with
Speaker 1: the fact checker. Directly. That's what Facebook will do, do
Speaker 1: you now, Facebook will say take it up with the
Speaker 1: fact checker. This is like saying, hey, my house has
Speaker 1: been robbed and you go to the you go to
Speaker 1: what you think of the police, and they're like, go
Speaker 1: ask the burglar to give it back to it true.
Speaker 1: That is what they're doing to you. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's amazing and it's appalling at the same time. I
Speaker 1: just wish that everybody would understand what the real implications
Speaker 1: of this are, because we're not going to win any
Speaker 1: political arguments going forward if we don't win on this.
Speaker 1: Well in other countries are really seeing what they did
Speaker 1: to the president. So ultimately you have places like Australia
Speaker 1: and India and even the United Kingdom that are coming
Speaker 1: against these organizations because they realize control of social media's
Speaker 1: control of election and its control of information. It's absolutely
Speaker 1: the case. Anna, Polina, Luna, everybody. Anna. Always great to
Speaker 1: have you here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for
Speaker 1: coming to Seepack and we'll have you on again soon.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. This is the Buck Sexton show podcast. Follow
Speaker 1: Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. All Right, continuing with
Speaker 1: some of our favorite people here in person with me
Speaker 1: at Sepack. We have a fellow that you might know
Speaker 1: from his radio show, A Great Show on the West
Speaker 1: Coast on Seattle's KTTH, but also from his frequent appearances
Speaker 1: on Tucker Carlson Show on Fox News talking about the
Speaker 1: crazy left coast woke maniacs. We've got Jason in rants
Speaker 1: with us. Now, Jason, how you doing. I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting because you come out here from Seattle
Speaker 1: to Orlando, and if this was happening in Seattle, one,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen in Seattle. But if it were NonStop protests,
Speaker 1: there's everyone. You're so nice, everyone friendly, everyone I walk
Speaker 1: up everywhere that I see in the hotel and everything
Speaker 1: that aren't even a part of Seapack. They're just like, well, hello,
Speaker 1: how are you so weird not to have Antifa here?
Speaker 1: Like this is what you used to start to ask
Speaker 1: these questions. If you're gonna get antievan Orlando. Something tells
Speaker 1: me they're going to have to make the trip in
Speaker 1: but they don't work and they don't drive, so how
Speaker 1: they're going to get here. What we don't know, but
Speaker 1: you know we'll see on Sunday. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: what we're seeing here right now in this Biden administration.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating to me because you know, you're a guy.
Speaker 1: You have the advantage. I remember when I when I
Speaker 1: first came into media, I just left the CIA, and
Speaker 1: of course, and uh, I wasn't doing both the same time.
Speaker 1: I swear, despite what some people conspiracy through it say,
Speaker 1: I started covering Occupy Wall Street in New York City.
Speaker 1: It started right down on Wall Street near Wall Street
Speaker 1: in New York City, and you got that day to
Speaker 1: day contact with these groups, and you really there's there's
Speaker 1: no replacement for being around them, talking to them, knowing them.
Speaker 1: You have that. I mean Seattle, which is a city
Speaker 1: I will say I've never been to, always wanted to
Speaker 1: go Seattle. I had thought of as it's like the
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy City and Kelsey Grammar on the show Frazier
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Now people in their minds they
Speaker 1: have this it's like a lunatic asylum of Antifa. And
Speaker 1: I know that's not the whole city and everybody there,
Speaker 1: but you're around them. How does the city view this
Speaker 1: every day. How does the city of Seattle handle these
Speaker 1: left wing they embrace media. I mean, that's part of
Speaker 1: the issue with Seattle, right. I mean, you've got a
Speaker 1: council and a mayor's office that does not address virtually
Speaker 1: any of the violence any of these groups, and they
Speaker 1: kind of pretend that Antiva doesn't exist, just like the
Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler's and the Joe Bidens of the world, pretending
Speaker 1: it's a myth. And yet we all know it's not.
Speaker 1: We've got all the images, we know who these people are,
Speaker 1: and we've seen some arrests and prosecutions. They're very rare,
Speaker 1: and usually we see them on a federal level, but
Speaker 1: it's obviously happening. The problem is there's a large contingency
Speaker 1: of people in Seattle who are sympathetic to the cause.
Speaker 1: They might not agree with all of the tactics. They
Speaker 1: don't support the violence per se, but they can justify it.
Speaker 1: And that is a dangerous place to be where you
Speaker 1: can say, Okay, I don't like violence, but in this case,
Speaker 1: we'll give it a pass because their hearts are in
Speaker 1: the right place. What happened really with the chaz meaning
Speaker 1: we know that they set up this Capitol Hill, which
Speaker 1: is so confusing for East Coasters because we all assume
Speaker 1: we hear Capitol Hill. We think obviously where Congress is
Speaker 1: in the Capitol Building. But the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Speaker 1: the CHAZ, which I know they changed to the CHOP
Speaker 1: the Capitol Hill occupy protests for like a couple of days.
Speaker 1: I think they went back because CHATZ sounded better than
Speaker 1: was the one they settled with, which does sound better
Speaker 1: than it does sound better, but it went away, but
Speaker 1: then there's an effort to bring it back. Is that
Speaker 1: Where does it stand right now? So it doesn't exist anymore,
Speaker 1: there's no occupied zone, but it is still the center
Speaker 1: of where when they do try to engage in their activism,
Speaker 1: they usually show up right outside of the East Precinct,
Speaker 1: which is the police station within that zone that they've
Speaker 1: been trying to drive out of the community, which of
Speaker 1: course would be a total disaster, but that's where they
Speaker 1: generally go. Now. Across the street is a park it's
Speaker 1: called cal Anderson Park, which again was part of the zone.
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, probably at this point six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks ago or so, there was a homeless encampment
Speaker 1: there that they built a wall around ironically, and they
Speaker 1: try to occupy it. This time the city said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to allow you to do that, so
Speaker 1: they took over. It's amazing, it's insane that this is
Speaker 1: what a modern American city will go through. What I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk obviously to people in law enforcement in Seattle.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is your hometown, right, this is where
Speaker 1: you're based out of. What do the cops think about this? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean from you know, from the rank and file
Speaker 1: all the way up to the top. Well, I'll give
Speaker 1: you this. We had a historic number of officers leaving
Speaker 1: the Seattle Police Department. Last year. You had one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety seven. Now, to put that in context, we
Speaker 1: had a crisis of staffing about two three years ago
Speaker 1: and that number was one hundred and ten. So it
Speaker 1: is getting worse. There's no sign that it's stopping. The
Speaker 1: police don't want to work in Seattle because they don't.
Speaker 1: No one has their backs at all. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got a council that this story is maddening to me
Speaker 1: because no one knows about it, because only a few
Speaker 1: of us were actually talking about it. And thanks to
Speaker 1: Fox News, who actually were able to get it out there.
Speaker 1: You had a group of Antifa thugs who use quick
Speaker 1: dry cement to seal shut the door to the East precinct,
Speaker 1: while at the same time, on the other side of
Speaker 1: the building, you had activists trying to set fire to it.
Speaker 1: They try to burn people inside of that police precinct alive,
Speaker 1: and not a single council member said anything. I reached
Speaker 1: out to every single one. I thought, this one, you
Speaker 1: know what, everyone could come together. This is wrong, this
Speaker 1: is attempted murder. Not a single one said anything, and
Speaker 1: that for a lot of cops said it all and
Speaker 1: they decided, yeah, I'm done. They were waiting for that straw.
Speaker 1: And that was that unbelievable do you have We're speaking
Speaker 1: of Jason Rants. He's a host on k T th
Speaker 1: and so so Jason is Seattle in a decline the
Speaker 1: way that other major American cities are because of the
Speaker 1: woke madness de Blasio's New York City. We had the
Speaker 1: purge night. It happened, all my block storefronts destroyed. NYPD
Speaker 1: furious beyond words because they were basically both overwhelmed and
Speaker 1: knew that they didn't have the backing to do what
Speaker 1: they had to do, which is, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to throw people in flex cuffs and arrest them, and
Speaker 1: you need overwhelming fort You need overwhelming for us, otherwise
Speaker 1: you get mobbed. And that's what happens San Francisco, everybody
Speaker 1: knows about. I don't know what else to say on them.
Speaker 1: The poop app where you're finding and just want a mess.
Speaker 1: Everything literally would a mess. Everything is on the streets
Speaker 1: there and people are fleeing in large numbers, hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands where Seattle on that order, do people kind of
Speaker 1: embrace the vagrancy and the insanity because that's where their
Speaker 1: politics are and so they're not yet fleeing. This is
Speaker 1: where you really do have to live there to fully
Speaker 1: understand the weird dynamic, because on the one hand, you
Speaker 1: absolutely have people who want to pretend that it is
Speaker 1: somehow compassionate to allow people to sleep out on the
Speaker 1: streets and in parks and in alleyways, because if you
Speaker 1: were to move them or clean up any of their trash,
Speaker 1: they'll say, that's not trash, that's their personal belongings. We
Speaker 1: have to treat these people with compassion. They're human beings,
Speaker 1: which is weird because that level of compassion means you're
Speaker 1: staying out on the streets and you're living in filth, right,
Speaker 1: But then you also have a vacancy rate in apartments,
Speaker 1: which is really what you can track if you want
Speaker 1: to know if people are leaving, and it's through the roof.
Speaker 1: You have in the downtown in South Lake Union Area
Speaker 1: hitting ten percent vacancy rates for those apartments they're fleeing.
Speaker 1: Don't know where they're going yet. We're starting to see
Speaker 1: some anecdotal data that people are leaving Washington State, but
Speaker 1: for the most part that neighborhood is occupied by Amazon workers.
Speaker 1: Amazon has been closed down for in person visits for
Speaker 1: a year. So when you start to think about, Okay,
Speaker 1: do I want to spend twenty five hundred three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a month on a small studio apartment when I
Speaker 1: can't use any of the amenities because every single park
Speaker 1: nearby is taken over by the homeless. We have a
Speaker 1: city where we have just hit a twenty six year
Speaker 1: high homicide rate. We've got crime just going through the roof.
Speaker 1: They're saying no, and they're moving. My suspicion is they're
Speaker 1: just moving across the lake. I mean, they're going into Belvie,
Speaker 1: the greater east side of King County, which is more affordable,
Speaker 1: much more beautiful, and you've got a council that actually cares.
Speaker 1: Is there a sense that the blue state mentality though
Speaker 1: that that obviously is pervasive in Seattle? Are more people,
Speaker 1: so I will tell you this. I was a part
Speaker 1: of a of a Have you done any of these
Speaker 1: clubhouse calls or I have been working in the background.
Speaker 1: I just did a clubhouse call with a bunch of
Speaker 1: other lifelong New Yorkers in media, including people somebody who
Speaker 1: actually worked at the Washington Works, the Washington Post, people
Speaker 1: from New York Post. I mean, but you know a
Speaker 1: lot of media people. And it was all the one
Speaker 1: unifying characteristic of everybody in the call who was speaking
Speaker 1: was I love New York. I think it's in big
Speaker 1: trouble and and I'm willing to say that even if
Speaker 1: there were some Democrats are part of this too. Is
Speaker 1: that happening where you are? Are even Democrats starting to
Speaker 1: realize this can't we can't have the chop or the
Speaker 1: chats or whatever. We can't have this. More of them
Speaker 1: are starting to realize that. And it's always been interesting.
Speaker 1: I talked to a activist about a month ago. Her
Speaker 1: name is Andreas Suarez, and she started a group called
Speaker 1: I Love Downtown Seattle, and she explained to me that
Speaker 1: once the pandemic hit and everyone for the most part
Speaker 1: was staying at home except for the homeless, when she
Speaker 1: would walk in her neighborhood of downtown Seattle, she realized
Speaker 1: how bad it actually was and it finally kind of
Speaker 1: hit her to say, this can't continue. We've got people
Speaker 1: who are wandering around like their zombies because they're high
Speaker 1: out of their minds and they're living out on the streets.
Speaker 1: And when that's all you see, then you do have
Speaker 1: that lightbulb moment. It's not happening fast enough, though. I
Speaker 1: keep saying people say, you know things are going to
Speaker 1: turn around. I don't think we've at rock bottom yet,
Speaker 1: and that's what we need to do in order to
Speaker 1: see a significant shift. And that we haven't hit rock
Speaker 1: bottom with what we're currently going through is terrifying to
Speaker 1: me because I live in Seattle. I'm not a Seattle
Speaker 1: talk show host who lives in the suburb. I live
Speaker 1: in the heart of Seattle, and I'm seeing this every
Speaker 1: single day. I live right next to Times Square, Manhattan
Speaker 1: the same thing. So I feel like I'm right near
Speaker 1: the pulsing heart which now is corroded. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: increasing increasingly smelly and not healthy. But anyway, Jason, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go, Jason Rance. Jason, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: all your work. We really appreciate it. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. I really do appreciate it. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Shoe Podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
Speaker 1: Are continuing with our trend of fantastic guests here in
Speaker 1: person with me right next to me. Today here at
Speaker 1: Seapack in Orlando, we've got my friend John Lot. He
Speaker 1: is the author, of course of More Guns, Less Crime.
Speaker 1: His latest book is Gun Control Myths, and you can
Speaker 1: read his research at crimeresearch dot org. John. Great to
Speaker 1: see it, Great to see you again, Buck. So we're
Speaker 1: all expecting that there are going to be some major
Speaker 1: gun control efforts from this Biden administration. They've talked about it,
Speaker 1: they were talking about it certainly during the campaign in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. What have we seen so far and where
Speaker 1: do you think this is going to go? Well, one
Speaker 1: thing that they've done so far, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember Operation Choke Point at the end of the
Speaker 1: Obama administration where basically the federal government put pressure on
Speaker 1: financial institutions not to do business with companies that the
Speaker 1: Obama administration didn't approve of. So, like, you know, a
Speaker 1: company may find that financial institutions would refuse to handle
Speaker 1: credit cards from customers, or handle checks, or not even
Speaker 1: given them a check encounter or loans. Trump ended that policy,
Speaker 1: and he was in the process of finalizing regulations that
Speaker 1: forbid the federal government from engaging in that type of
Speaker 1: discrimination against law abiding companies they're producing law lawful products.
Speaker 1: The problem is the final rules were set to be
Speaker 1: published in the Federal Register a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and right before they were supposed to come out, the
Speaker 1: Biden administration pulled them. And so presumably they'll be able
Speaker 1: to go back to going and targeting companies or whatever
Speaker 1: that they don't find politically attractive there. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just a way of using the regulatory power of the
Speaker 1: government to put out a business gun makers and gun sellers,
Speaker 1: or people in the energy business or whatever that they
Speaker 1: don't approve of. What do you think the chances are
Speaker 1: that we're going to be faced with a real effort
Speaker 1: at an assault weapons ban, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: big ticket items if you will, that the left always
Speaker 1: the Democrats always talk about when it comes to gun control,
Speaker 1: is there is there a serious effort you think that
Speaker 1: will be underway to do that. I don't think legislatively
Speaker 1: you'll get something that through. I think the things that
Speaker 1: they'll do are just to try to make it more
Speaker 1: costly for people to have guns. And we can talk
Speaker 1: about some of the bills I think might go through.
Speaker 1: But with the tutory changes, well, what to tell me?
Speaker 1: Tell me the bills that we'll go through them, we'll
Speaker 1: get into executive orders and regulatory issues. I think the
Speaker 1: one that's probably most likely to get through is background
Speaker 1: checks on the private transfers of guns. You know, um
Speaker 1: in DC where they already have it, it costs one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five dollars to privately transfer a gun
Speaker 1: just to do the background check. Uh. It's one thing
Speaker 1: that I actually try to work on when I was
Speaker 1: in the Trump administration. You know, the deep state is there.
Speaker 1: I just give you one story from when I was there.
Speaker 1: I convinced the Bureau of Justice Statistics to try to
Speaker 1: get data on the false positives for the background checks.
Speaker 1: Because we will hear constantly about three and a half
Speaker 1: million dangerous inhibited people have been stopped from buying guns,
Speaker 1: and that's simply not true. What they should say is
Speaker 1: there have been three and a half million initial denials
Speaker 1: and something over ninety nine percent of those are false positives,
Speaker 1: and it's particularly minority mails that are being discriminated against.
Speaker 1: And so when I was in Washington, I tried to
Speaker 1: get data on the false positives that are there the FBI.
Speaker 1: We got the Bureau of Justice Statistics to ask the
Speaker 1: FBI for the data. The FBI first of all try
Speaker 1: to convince us that nobody would be interested in, you know,
Speaker 1: the rate that black mails and Hispanic mails are being
Speaker 1: discriminated against in the background check system. And then they
Speaker 1: went silent for about five weeks and then finally got
Speaker 1: back to us two days after the election and insisted
Speaker 1: that the that the Bureau of Justice Statistics had to
Speaker 1: do a foyer request from the FBI to go and
Speaker 1: get the data. And of course nobody you had ever
Speaker 1: heard of something like that. And then they told us
Speaker 1: that we weren't going to be able to get it
Speaker 1: anyway until after January twentieth, and they assured us that
Speaker 1: the Biden administration would not be interested in that type
Speaker 1: of data. So just one of many stories I can
Speaker 1: tell you from kind of uh, kind of the politicization
Speaker 1: of the FBI that's there, But I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the one. You got the Tomy mansion bill that's going
Speaker 1: to come up again, and I think that's one thing
Speaker 1: that's there. So are they are they going to come
Speaker 1: after people's guns? I mean, this is always the concern.
Speaker 1: Are there any realistic chances you think that they're going
Speaker 1: to try a mandatory buy back program through executive order
Speaker 1: to clare a you know, a gun violent state of emergency?
Speaker 1: I mean, what are people worried about? The more radical possibilities?
Speaker 1: I think I think the one that they're likely to
Speaker 1: do is h is classifying different weapons as as Class
Speaker 1: three weapons. You know what that is is basically machine
Speaker 1: guns right now, but during the campaign, Biden wanting to
Speaker 1: classify semi automatic rifles as Class three and magazines that
Speaker 1: hold over ten rounds. So that would require a two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars fee for each of those items that you
Speaker 1: would have, and you'd have to register and license them. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's about a nine month approval process right now to
Speaker 1: go through it. I assume if they expand it the
Speaker 1: way they would would dramatically increase that time. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they'll be lawsuits if they try to do something like that.
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that the Democrats control the
Speaker 1: DC Circuit where everything goes through, and you're you know,
Speaker 1: there was seven to four Democratic majority on that court,
Speaker 1: and you know it could be four or five years
Speaker 1: before something like that would eventually get to the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: and so for some period of time they would be
Speaker 1: able to go and impose attacks and require registration licensing
Speaker 1: of the guns and items that they wanted to classify
Speaker 1: that way. Speaking to John, his latest book is Gun
Speaker 1: Control Myths, and you've got a crime research dot org
Speaker 1: for his latest research. John, it we got about a
Speaker 1: minute left or so. I just wrote a book, Gun
Speaker 1: control Myths. What is the what is the gun control
Speaker 1: myth that you find is the most pernicious or I
Speaker 1: mean the one that just drives you crazy that people
Speaker 1: believe or that's out there and it's just not true. Well,
Speaker 1: it's hard to pick one, but if I were to
Speaker 1: pick one, I'd say the notion that the United States
Speaker 1: is somehow unique in terms of mass public shootings. We
Speaker 1: make up about four and a half percent of the
Speaker 1: world population, but we actually make up less than one
Speaker 1: percent of the world's mass public shootings and fatalities from
Speaker 1: those attacks. You know, even Europe, you know, these cases
Speaker 1: just don't get news coverage. I mean, France had more
Speaker 1: casualties from mass public shootings in twenty fifteen than the
Speaker 1: United States had during the entire eight years of the
Speaker 1: Obama presidency, at five hundred and thirty two compared to
Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty seven casualties in the United States.
Speaker 1: You know, Russia has casualties from mass public shootings that's
Speaker 1: about fifty percent higher than the rate in the United States.
Speaker 1: You don't hear about university shootings or school shootings that
Speaker 1: occur in Russia. I mean, they may get one little
Speaker 1: story and buried in the back of a newspaper here
Speaker 1: in the United States. And yet a country like Russia
Speaker 1: has incredibly strict gun control. You have other countries in
Speaker 1: in Western Europe, that Eastern Europe that have very high rates.
Speaker 1: So we aren't we aren't some anomaly with mass shootings
Speaker 1: that don't happen anywhere else. And the media always seems
Speaker 1: to suggest that that is the case for more gun
Speaker 1: control myths busted. You should go check out John's book
Speaker 1: Gun Control Myths and got a Crime Research dot Org. John,
Speaker 1: Good to see you man in person. Great to see you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. You're listening to the Buck
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Speaker 1: All right, road call Facebook dot com, slash buck sex
Speaker 1: in until they kick me off Facebook forever for telling
Speaker 1: you the truth, or Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. Hopefully
Speaker 1: they're not going to kick us off the servers there,
Speaker 1: so we'll still have an email address. It's the world
Speaker 1: we live in now. We've got to use the communications
Speaker 1: platforms we've got while we've got them. So that's where
Speaker 1: we That's where we are with all this stuff. And
Speaker 1: now let's let's get into it. I canna tell you,
Speaker 1: it's so nice to be down here and in sunny
Speaker 1: Florida at Sea pack in Orlando. Producer Mark, It's um,
Speaker 1: it's looking good here, man. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I think you and missus Mark would be very happy.
Speaker 1: Maybe Coco Beach a little east if here. It's pretty nice,
Speaker 1: and we'd be very close to Disney and Universal. I
Speaker 1: love those parks, you know, I've never been to either. Really,
Speaker 1: and you're in Orlando, you gotta go, you gotta go
Speaker 1: over now. I don't think they're open. Yeah they are. Oh, no,
Speaker 1: of course they are. It's Florida. That's what happens when
Speaker 1: you when you're from New York, You're like, nothing is open.
Speaker 1: Then you got to Florida, you go, wait a second,
Speaker 1: it's all open. And I hadn't even thought I had
Speaker 1: even thought about that one. Um. Well, anyway, it's really
Speaker 1: nice here, having a good time, enjoying myself, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of friends, which is great people
Speaker 1: that it's nice to touch base with them and say
Speaker 1: thank you for all the hits they do on the
Speaker 1: radio show and seeing them in person, and also just
Speaker 1: seeing some of the people who listen to this show. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know you really we've all been so isolated the
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, basically, my only friend every day
Speaker 1: is producer Mark and Tallulah. There's the only people I
Speaker 1: hang out with every day. So you can imagine it's
Speaker 1: nice to see human beings. Mark, You're still you know,
Speaker 1: in the cave in Jersey. But you're all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're You're my only friend now, you know, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that's Mark and I hang out with each other
Speaker 1: every day and then all the rest of you get
Speaker 1: to hear it. Um. But let's let's get into what
Speaker 1: you think, what you have to say here, And like
Speaker 1: I said, please use the Facebook, um or you can
Speaker 1: obviously send me messages on Instagram to Mark's got all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Let's get to it, David, hey Buck. I
Speaker 1: live very close to my alma mater, the univer Versia Richmond,
Speaker 1: so I drive through the campus pretty regular to see
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's a small student population on a
Speaker 1: large campus, so there are mostly students walking alone and
Speaker 1: they're all wearing masks. They've been brainwashed. It's unbelievable. They're
Speaker 1: also glued to their phone while they're walking. I almost
Speaker 1: root for them to walk into a lightpost. It's very
Speaker 1: unsettling to see these young minds being controlled by the
Speaker 1: garbage they've been fed by the media. Keep up the
Speaker 1: great work you and produce your mark do. You're a
Speaker 1: great team. Well, David, thank you so much, and thank
Speaker 1: you for having such excellent taste in radio to listen
Speaker 1: to this show. And I will tell you this, it's
Speaker 1: very hard to know if someone is brainwashed or if
Speaker 1: they're just being forced. You know, I'm here in Florida,
Speaker 1: I have to get up and the moment when I'm
Speaker 1: sitting and broadcasting, I don't have to wear a mask
Speaker 1: because thank god, they realize that that would muffle my voice.
Speaker 1: And I mean, what's next, They're gonna make me wear
Speaker 1: a hat to cover up my hair? This is insane.
Speaker 1: Can't You're not buck without the voice in the hair? Right.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel, and I gotta I gotta do
Speaker 1: everything that I can do to just be compliance so
Speaker 1: that I can keep broadcasting and doing my show. But
Speaker 1: of course I think this is idiocy, and of course
Speaker 1: there's no medical or scientific reason. But you have a
Speaker 1: lot of things going on. You have fear of liability
Speaker 1: out there. Places don't want to get sued, and Democrats
Speaker 1: have been fighting every step of the way. Business is
Speaker 1: getting liability protection for COVID because they have power. They
Speaker 1: like power, So there's the liability protection issue. There's people
Speaker 1: who are truly terrified, and we all have to sort
Speaker 1: of bend the knee and make them feel better all
Speaker 1: the time, even though they're terror maybe deeply irrational, but
Speaker 1: there are terrified individuals walking around. And there's also people
Speaker 1: that like to control others. And then there the people
Speaker 1: that just want to go about their lives but can't
Speaker 1: do And I know that's people who listen to this show.
Speaker 1: I don't wear a mask because I think they're right.
Speaker 1: I wear a mask because if I don't, they attack me,
Speaker 1: they come after me. They tell me you can't be here,
Speaker 1: you're you're now trespassing. You're gonna be escorted from the premises.
Speaker 1: So this is why I always say individual non compliance
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of charging the machine gun nest without
Speaker 1: a plan to take it. Mass non compliance right, if
Speaker 1: you're one person who and you know, I hate the
Speaker 1: blocking highways thing, for example, I absolutely hate that tactic.
Speaker 1: I think it's awful and selfish and terrible. But I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're one person blocking a highway, the cops are
Speaker 1: gonna show up, they're gonna put you in cuffs, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna take you away. If you're three hundred people
Speaker 1: blocking a highway, now all of a sudden, it's a
Speaker 1: different calculation. Now, now maybe you know you're gonna get
Speaker 1: attention for the cause, and there's gonna be people, and
Speaker 1: then that's the way the activist Olynskyites have been able
Speaker 1: to get so much by by using these kinds of
Speaker 1: tactics in the past. So individual noncompliance when it comes
Speaker 1: to masks is not a good idea. It has to
Speaker 1: be a movement. And I know people say, well, how
Speaker 1: do you get a movement unless an individual starts it.
Speaker 1: It's a fair point, and maybe there'll be someone who
Speaker 1: decides something. Basically, people are gonna have to be willing
Speaker 1: to get arrested for not wearing a mask. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, you know, if you're around a bunch of
Speaker 1: senior citizens indoors and no, I mean, you know, use
Speaker 1: your judgment, right, But people are going to be arrested.
Speaker 1: Until people are willing to get arrested for not wearing
Speaker 1: a mask and actually get handcuffed and processed and having
Speaker 1: arrest on their record for whatever it is, this will continue.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically where I and that's what I've decided,
Speaker 1: and I'm not yet at the point where I think
Speaker 1: it's useful for me to be a person that is
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm still trying to advocate for the end
Speaker 1: of these policies. But there probably will come a point
Speaker 1: at which I say, you know what, all right, We've
Speaker 1: tried try to be reasonable, We've try to work with
Speaker 1: the law, and you know then, and that's, by the way,
Speaker 1: civil disobedience. I'm not harming anyone. I'm not hurting anyone,
Speaker 1: not destroying anyone's property or building. But I'll say, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm unwilling to abide by this law, and I will
Speaker 1: I will deal with the consequences as a means of
Speaker 1: raising raising my voice within society. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: there yet, but I'm not sure we're never going to
Speaker 1: be there, and I think that we should all be
Speaker 1: very clear on that there is that possibility that at
Speaker 1: some point in the future we will be there. Gina
Speaker 1: Hi Buck. The last seventy two hours the New cycle
Speaker 1: have been crazy. We are told we need to be
Speaker 1: less white, that we need to eat synthetic meat because
Speaker 1: we are rich, that children need to suck it up
Speaker 1: in deal. That Fauci is Maximus Fauci, and he knows
Speaker 1: the way that any news outlet who doesn't ban opposing
Speaker 1: opinions be destroyed. That the Supreme court decided that election
Speaker 1: law doesn't matter, but the ex president's tax returns due,
Speaker 1: the man who would be Attorney general has no idea
Speaker 1: of the law, and that A member of the Clinton's
Speaker 1: cabinet admits, we have become a totalent care in government.
Speaker 1: It has now reached a fever pitch. I like you
Speaker 1: have never been so afraid of our government or the
Speaker 1: power at wields. I'm eighteen years older than you, said
Speaker 1: the pledge, saying the anthem, learned civics in school. Please
Speaker 1: tell me there's a way out, a way back, because
Speaker 1: short of all out civil war, I don't see it.
Speaker 1: These people are evil, but it seems to me there's
Speaker 1: no avenue available to us feeling laws. Please give us
Speaker 1: your thoughts and some hope. Shields hide Gina. The best,
Speaker 1: the best advantage that conservatives have is the actions of
Speaker 1: Democrats in power. I mean that's for making the case.
Speaker 1: We can talk about all the great things that we
Speaker 1: would like to do, and look, Trump did some very
Speaker 1: good things. Other things were unfinished. There's no question about that. Right.
Speaker 1: We can talk about what we want to do that's positive,
Speaker 1: but what really mobilizes people is their revulsion against the
Speaker 1: negative here's an example of this. When you go on
Speaker 1: a lot of websites to check out what people think
Speaker 1: of different restaurants, you'll notice something a lot of five
Speaker 1: star reviews and then a lot of one star reviews.
Speaker 1: Why is that, Well, sure people will say that they
Speaker 1: think of place is great, but there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of people want to show up and give a three
Speaker 1: star review. Why is that? Because they don't want to
Speaker 1: take the time, They don't feel as engaged. Okay, it
Speaker 1: was fine, right, I love it or I hate it?
Speaker 1: Is that those are motivators. It was okay, you pay
Speaker 1: your check, you go home. Politics, there's a similar effect,
Speaker 1: except it's a lot harder through policy, being the I
Speaker 1: love it category, i'd say, than at a restaurant, although
Speaker 1: you know it depends. But I hate it, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot I hate it in politics and Democrats
Speaker 1: making the country suffer, making us poorer, making us less free,
Speaker 1: making us more miserable as a people. That's not going
Speaker 1: to be a game changer for for everybody. Obviously, there
Speaker 1: are people who like what they're doing, who like the insanity,
Speaker 1: but it is something that that big group of people
Speaker 1: in the middle may very well decide they've had enough.
Speaker 1: It is something that could be a game changer for
Speaker 1: those swing voters in places like swing voters in places
Speaker 1: like Arizona who didn't come out or came out for Biden,
Speaker 1: you know, in places like Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: and there is still a pathway to political power for conservatives.
Speaker 1: Make no mistake about it. I know we feel so
Speaker 1: defeated right now, but if we fight on the battlefields
Speaker 1: that are available to us, and if we make sure
Speaker 1: that we push back, I mean, I think that social
Speaker 1: media censorship is the single biggest threat we face to
Speaker 1: our republic right now in terms of free speech. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's nothing else that comes close to it. If we
Speaker 1: have those fights and we can begin to win those fights,
Speaker 1: will be in a better place. And don't gina. I
Speaker 1: mean the slogan of this show, the maxim. I prefer
Speaker 1: that term. The maxim of this show is shields high
Speaker 1: for a reason. Notice it's not it's not swords high, right,
Speaker 1: It's not there, because really, what it means to be
Speaker 1: a conservative is to embrace the fact that you're often
Speaker 1: going to be taking incoming and you're going to be
Speaker 1: on defense. That's what It means you're going to have
Speaker 1: to be trying to save things. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be trying to conserve, and that means that you are
Speaker 1: you are the recipient of the incoming and you stand
Speaker 1: tall and strong and defend what you can. That's why
Speaker 1: we're shields high here. That's why we do what we do. Bobby,
Speaker 1: Bobby Buck, you need to get away from the big Apple.
Speaker 1: You're on the ledge and you need to step back.
Speaker 1: The contempt and disdain in your voice is palpable. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, but I live in a free state
Speaker 1: of Mississippi very near the sanity stricken state of Florida.
Speaker 1: I'm less than one hundred miles in the Florida line
Speaker 1: on the Mississippi Gulf coast, and we are saying down here. Restaurants, bars,
Speaker 1: casinos are all open, and some are very lax on
Speaker 1: the useless masking. Some don't enforce at all. You need
Speaker 1: to get out of that hell hole of New York
Speaker 1: City and come to a saner environment. It will make
Speaker 1: your already good radio show even better. See you when
Speaker 1: you get here, Bobby. I appreciate that, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this meant I'm so torn on this issue, and
Speaker 1: I really am. I mean, Mark knows we're not. I'm
Speaker 1: not just like kidding around about moving to Florida. I'm
Speaker 1: very serious about it. I'm conversations with family members, having
Speaker 1: conversations with the snow Princess. I mean, I'm having I'm
Speaker 1: talking to people who matter most to me about maybe
Speaker 1: moving to Florida and what that would mean. I've never
Speaker 1: thought that before in my life, but I have seen
Speaker 1: a side of the Democrat authoritarian mentality that I it's
Speaker 1: it's at a whole new level. Now, it's at a
Speaker 1: whole it's in a whole new place. And the viciousness,
Speaker 1: I mean, they really because they're they're so sort of fearful,
Speaker 1: and there's such a lack of internal courage and character
Speaker 1: within the leftist mentality. They're looking for people to blame.
Speaker 1: They really think, I mean, it is a widespread belief
Speaker 1: on the left in America that Trump voters and Republicans
Speaker 1: in general are responsible for the spread of COVID, that
Speaker 1: we are uniquely responsible for the spread of COVID. They
Speaker 1: actually think that, they really believe that, and that's deeply
Speaker 1: troubling because one it's insane. I mean, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: we're also for the spread of COVID in Italy and
Speaker 1: the UK and Spain and Brazil and you know, go
Speaker 1: down the list. But beyond it being being uniquely insane
Speaker 1: in that sense, it also means that there is a
Speaker 1: justification for viciousness that is almost endless, and a justification
Speaker 1: for heavy handedness in public policy that should be very
Speaker 1: unsettling to everybody. So heavy handedness is an understatement, by
Speaker 1: the way, So uh, you know, that's kind of that's
Speaker 1: where we are right now. That's what we're seeing, and
Speaker 1: I am concerned about it. But then you say, well, buck,
Speaker 1: why haven't you already moved. I've got a family in
Speaker 1: New York City, and there's a part of me, honestly
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to abandon my fellow conservatives in the
Speaker 1: heart of the biggest blue city in the country. You know,
Speaker 1: I speak to them long. I speak to them every
Speaker 1: day on a station in New York City. I've got
Speaker 1: a lot of people listen to podcasts public to my
Speaker 1: podcast who live in New York City, And there's a
Speaker 1: part of me that's like, I don't want to leave
Speaker 1: them behind on the on the blue state battlefield. But
Speaker 1: there's only so much a man can take. By the
Speaker 1: same token, there's maybe maybe continuing to help in the
Speaker 1: exodus from New York might be the best possible thing,
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about it. You're in the freedom hunt.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the buck Sexton Show podcast. Get
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Speaker 1: rollcall continuing here, Kim, you said and yesterday's show, Trump
Speaker 1: should get a B plus. There could have been improvements.
Speaker 1: I'd give him a standing ovation and send him straight
Speaker 1: to heaven for putting up with the dishonest Democrats. Considering
Speaker 1: the alternative, he was excellent, well, Kim in that sense
Speaker 1: in the binary, it is true that Trump was far
Speaker 1: better than that Hillary would have been, and I gave him.
Speaker 1: I give him credit on trade, on judges, on calling
Speaker 1: out the fake news media and really creating a whole
Speaker 1: paradigm for fighting back against them. I gave him credit
Speaker 1: for not starting any new wars, for a very strong
Speaker 1: ecount me and very low unemployment. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot about Trump that I'm at the front of the
Speaker 1: line saying these are clearly great things for the country,
Speaker 1: but there are also things that didn't get done, and
Speaker 1: there were missus, and I just try to be very
Speaker 1: honest with you all about that. I think that we
Speaker 1: have a better conversation. You know, I'm criticizing Trump from
Speaker 1: within the family, you know what I mean. I'm criticizing
Speaker 1: Trump from the perspective of somebody who supported him, voted
Speaker 1: for him twice, advocated for everybody else to vote for him.
Speaker 1: And you know, in that sense, I mean not that
Speaker 1: I'm the coach of team Trump, because that would be
Speaker 1: very grandios. But I come in at the way that
Speaker 1: a coach speaks to his team, which is and a
Speaker 1: team that just had a big loss. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: the team just lost. So that's that's something I think
Speaker 1: we have to consider here. We did just have a
Speaker 1: big loss, and we could talk about how it was
Speaker 1: unfair and all this other stuff, and that's fine, but
Speaker 1: a loss, and you know, an L is an L,
Speaker 1: and there's an L on the scoreboard, and we need
Speaker 1: to be honest about that. But Kim that said, if
Speaker 1: you want to give it an A because you love him,
Speaker 1: God bless and your opinion is every bit. And this
Speaker 1: is one thing that I really believe a lot of
Speaker 1: other I think radio host don't necessarily believe at all
Speaker 1: every opinion of every person listening to this is absolutely
Speaker 1: as valid as mine when it comes to Trump and
Speaker 1: politics and all the rest of it. I just try
Speaker 1: to put on a good show with a lot of
Speaker 1: information for all of you. But every other person here
Speaker 1: you know I'm wrong about things sometimes. I admit that
Speaker 1: sometimes I get things wrong. Sometimes I'm off, And actually
Speaker 1: a lot of the time when I realize I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: it's because people in this audience tell me. Terrence greetings
Speaker 1: from Soul, South Korea, that the branch of Team Buck International.
Speaker 1: I was just flipping through the channels after work and
Speaker 1: had to stop and watch the ending of my favorite
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson movie. While watching, I remembered something that has
Speaker 1: always bothered me, being oss. I know well your affinity
Speaker 1: for Braveheart and agree it's a very good film. But also,
Speaker 1: but I believe you also give The Patriot very high marks.
Speaker 1: But in all the years we've listened to you, I've
Speaker 1: never heard you mentioned what I could said to be
Speaker 1: his best movie, We Were Soldiers. I'm stuck two possibilities. One,
Speaker 1: you don't think it's worthy to be included, or you
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I find it to be inconceivable, So
Speaker 1: I was hoping you'd shed light on this. You can.
Speaker 1: I can sleep safe and warmly at night. Thanks Buckshieldside well,
Speaker 1: Terrence Man. Great to have you right again from South Korea.
Speaker 1: Love it Team Bucks, South Korea in the house. And
Speaker 1: as for We Were Soldiers, it's a great movie. I've
Speaker 1: seen it many times. I think it's fantastic. It's it
Speaker 1: might it might even make it into my top ten
Speaker 1: top ten more movies. I'm gonna be honest you though,
Speaker 1: it's probably more like a top fifteen or top twenty
Speaker 1: for me. But it is a great movie, and it
Speaker 1: might be. It might be in the top ten. And
Speaker 1: it's very true to life and accurate. I mean I've
Speaker 1: read about that battle specifically, and also the leader that
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson portrays, you know how, And I mean he
Speaker 1: was beloved by his troops and he was he was
Speaker 1: as real deal as it gets. So We Were Soldiers
Speaker 1: highly recommend on the Buck recommendation list. All right, day
Speaker 1: one here at Seapack in the books. Friends, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for listening. Sorry if the sound of the background
Speaker 1: made a little difficult sometimes, but we're bringing you a
Speaker 1: different experience. The next couple of days. We'll be back
Speaker 1: normal on Monday. Until then, Team Shield Hie