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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now.

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Speaker 1: This is Buck. I'm solo today because Clay is traveling.

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Speaker 2: He's handling some stuff going out there in California, I believe,

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Speaker 2: or I don't even know where he is right now,

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Speaker 2: but he's good textan this morning. He's doing well. He'll

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Speaker 2: be back with us on Monday, so it's taking a

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Speaker 2: couple of days off for travel and things. I have

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Speaker 2: so much to speak to all of you about, and

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 1: You know what the some of the top topics of

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Speaker 1: the day are going to be. I would just start

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Speaker 1: with this.

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Speaker 2: The Trump picks are truly driving already emotionally fragile libs

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Speaker 2: completely up the wall. They are losing their minds over this. Now,

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Speaker 2: I want to focus on the ones today that are

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Speaker 2: particularly what's the word controversial, That's what they keep saying. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's so controver. We'll get to that. I would say,

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Speaker 2: first off, there have been some picks already that, no

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Speaker 2: matter who you are, you would have to admit for

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Speaker 2: a Republican president, especially for Donald Trump as the incoming

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Speaker 2: president of the United States, isn't it fun? To hear

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Speaker 2: that to say that Donald Trump two point zero, it's

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Speaker 2: actually happening. But some of these picks make perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: You know, Michael Wallace's National Security advisor impeccable, fantastic, Tom

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Speaker 2: Holman borders are impeccable, fantastic. I mean, there's a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of Them'll le Zelda will do a great job

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Speaker 2: at EPA. I don't want to go through all of

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Speaker 2: the ones that even if they don't even if the

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Speaker 2: what do we even call them now? They're definitely not

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Speaker 2: the mainstream media because they're not the center of the

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Speaker 2: media world, and they're fine. They found that out the

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Speaker 2: hard way in this election, and it upsets them that

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Speaker 2: this reality has set in. I guess that the Democrat

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Speaker 2: aligned legacy media we need to come up with a

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Speaker 2: better shorthand for that. But they can't get as upset

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Speaker 2: about some of these nominees for the Trump cabinet because

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Speaker 2: they know that ultimately highly qualified people with a record

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Speaker 2: of accomplishment and public service.

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Speaker 1: Et cetera. There are three picks though.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I think there are three of the

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Speaker 2: people that I know the best of or you know,

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Speaker 2: I have spent the most time with at least with

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Speaker 2: Tulsi and Pete. I don't know Matt as well, but

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Speaker 2: three of the picks are just completely blowing lib minds.

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Speaker 2: And one of them is like Chernobyl for the lib soul,

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Speaker 2: and that would be Matt Gates as Attorney General. We're

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Speaker 2: going to get there, but let's just start with the

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Speaker 2: other two first. I want to focus it on the

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Speaker 2: Matt Gates pick, because I mean, just just the panic

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Speaker 2: from the swampiest of swamp creatures has been very entertaining

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Speaker 2: and illuminating on this issue. But Pete Eggs as a

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Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense, I've known Pete, as I think I've

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Speaker 2: said here on the show and those of you who

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Speaker 2: have followed my career, Pete and I really got started

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Speaker 2: around the same time. He came out of the military.

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Speaker 2: He came out of the Army, I came out of

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Speaker 2: the CIA, and both found her way into media commentary,

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Speaker 2: writing TV all this stuff. And so I've known Pete

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Speaker 2: as long as I've been doing this. Really, I think

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Speaker 2: we probably first sat on a panel together on Glenn

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Speaker 2: Beck's Real News, which was a great show. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I wish they had like old episodes of it. Up

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Speaker 2: somewhere you could see it was a really good show

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Speaker 2: and a lot of very talented young conservatives. I may

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Speaker 2: say so myself, but really if you look and we

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Speaker 2: used to have Guy Benson and Katie Pavlich and Pete

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Speaker 2: Hegseth and I can't even begin to name all of

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Speaker 2: the people. Will Kane, you name all the people who

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Speaker 2: it's actually the first time I ever met Carol Marcus

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Speaker 2: had since admitted that she thought we were the cool kids,

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Speaker 2: and she was really nervous, but she did a great

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Speaker 2: job and now she's the cool kid. So here's where

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Speaker 2: we are. On the Pete nomination. They can't really attack

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Speaker 2: his resume because he's got I believe it's twenty years

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Speaker 1: I like Pete.

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Speaker 2: I consider Pete a friend, and so they're going to

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Speaker 2: freak out about it. Now the Pentagon is a very

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Speaker 2: I want to spend some time on the arguments that

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Speaker 2: they're making about all of this. Tulci Gabbard was named

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Speaker 1: I've gotten to know her a little bit over the

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Speaker 2: She's always struck me as a very fundament decent, honorable,

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Speaker 2: well intentioned, and capable person. The DNI, for me, is

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Speaker 2: as a job that probably shouldn't exist. And this comes

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Speaker 2: much time was spent by the various agency heads squabbling

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Speaker 2: over who has privacy on one issue or another.

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Speaker 1: It's absurd.

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Speaker 2: But whatever it is that Tulsi has called upon to

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Speaker 2: not even really clear in some ways, I think what

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Speaker 2: just a bureaucratic, bureaucratic role. And then you have Matt

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Speaker 2: Gates's Attorney general now Attorney General for Trump. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: think arguably it is after the choice of vice president,

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Speaker 2: of course, because somebody that would have to take over

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Speaker 2: heaven forbid. But if health or for some reason, Trump

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Speaker 2: couldn't finish his term, the vice president steps in.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's in the constitution. That's why we have

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Speaker 1: a vice president.

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Speaker 2: So attorney general is very, very high less attorney general

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Speaker 2: pick for Trump for this administration more important than secretary

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Speaker 2: of State. Not a knock on market Rubio, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I think you know he's He's going to be a

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Speaker 2: of some of the mess the Biden administration has created.

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Speaker 2: But I just mean for the mission set that Trump

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Speaker 1: And as I've said, isn't it amazing? The economy is

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Speaker 2: Just expect that the Trump economy is going to be great,

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Speaker 2: you know, and we shouldn't take it for granted. But

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Speaker 2: I think we take it for granted a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, well, you know, he knows how to

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Speaker 2: and you've got Elon and Vevak at the Department of

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Speaker 2: Government Efficiency doge, there's a lot of reason to be

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Speaker 2: very optimistic about that. The two big things, as I've

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Speaker 2: and I don't know that there is a more important

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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice. And let me explain why. And

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Speaker 2: this is even without getting into you know, Matt Gates

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Speaker 2: more sense to people or that somebody along the lines

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Speaker 2: of a Matt Gates who is ultra loyal, fierce, cannot

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Speaker 2: be broken by the system. And let's be honest, it's

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Speaker 2: But so we I'll get into the specifics of Gates

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Speaker 2: Look what he.

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Speaker 1: Beat to get to where he is. The guy was

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Speaker 1: indicted multiple times on garbage garbage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he was indicted for times over criminally felonies for

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Speaker 2: non crimes. These are non crimes, and that's why the

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Speaker 2: after him civilly on multiple counts. Again garbage.

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Speaker 2: Saying that mar A Lago is worth twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: to a billion dollars depending at least Okay, that's if

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Speaker 2: you're not in that range. And the state of New York,

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Speaker 2: the attorney general who ran on and now I'm getting

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Speaker 2: into the mission, right, ran on going after Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: ran on a campaign to become the attorney general of

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's home state. Now, I know this isn't DOJ

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Speaker 2: has happened. And it's a very straightforward proposition here. There

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Speaker 2: standard method of operation against Republicans. I have been banging

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Speaker 1: Shame, shame. I don't know what else to say.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he went after Scooter Libby for a leak that

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Speaker 2: Imagine a prosecutor who knows what happened in a situation

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Speaker 2: But you need to understand the context here. This has

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Speaker 2: in fact, victories for Democrats because even if they don't

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Speaker 2: do I always tell you the process is the punishment.

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Speaker 1: So they go after.

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Speaker 2: They really wanted Carl Rove, they wanted Dick Cheney. I

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Speaker 2: been good, but they wanted to They wanted to proscue

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Speaker 2: Carl Robe, Dick Cheney over over a non crime. And

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Speaker 2: that when that just went without any blowback in the media, Oh,

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Speaker 2: they elevated this woman who's a by the way, tether

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Speaker 2: Plane is a loon. Go back, why do you never

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Speaker 2: publicly after this stuff. Oh yeah, then you move on

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Speaker 2: to Chris Christie Bridgegate. This is the traffic jam in

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Speaker 2: very far, but we want you to hear different voices.

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Speaker 1: Then criminally, criminally went after Chris Christie.

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Speaker 2: Total headhunting expedition. They went after Scott Walker in Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're talking about the

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Speaker 2: a lot of your emails coming in very different opinions

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Speaker 2: I have. I got nothing but positive stuff from all

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Speaker 2: of you about about my friend Pete hag Seth. Again,

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Speaker 2: I've met Matt Gates, we've got a meal together once before.

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Speaker 1: Into what the mission is at DJ and who the

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Speaker 2: What they did, and I think we've lost sight of

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Speaker 2: this because Trump won, because Trump beat four criminal prosecutions,

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Speaker 1: A former president and a good man fundamentally not a

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Speaker 1: And then some as in they will target you.

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Speaker 2: This is something that has to be remedied. And this

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Speaker 2: And then I mean, you know, you know, Pete, Pete

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Speaker 2: There's a report that's coming out that was they say

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Speaker 2: the country, or every district i should say, or every

436
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Speaker 2: A lot of them are doing the work they're supposed

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Speaker 2: to do, locking up orderers and rapists and you know,

438
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Speaker 2: fraud stirs and all assorted criminals. Right, this isn't oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, let's just get rid of the entire Department

440
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Speaker 2: of Justice, top to bottom, because you need a justice department.

441
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Speaker 2: You can't have federal laws without a federal law enforcement arm.

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00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: You need an FBI of some kind. But you need

443
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Speaker 2: to reform it. You need it to be something that

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Speaker 2: is set not just from a leadership perspective, but from

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Speaker 2: an internal cultural perspective to accomplish the mission, and to

446
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: get that at this stage, you need to metaphorically crack

447
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Speaker 2: some skulls. You need some people to go in there

448
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: and shake things up, because what went on here with

449
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: these prosecutions. Specifically, we'll talk about the federal prosecutions of Trump.

450
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Speaker 2: I mean Alvin Bragg in New York. He's a disgrace.

451
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: He should lose his law license. The fact that anybody

452
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Speaker 2: supports this guy in a law enforcement role is honestly despicable.

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Speaker 1: He's a despicable person.

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Speaker 2: And that he would put that he would do this

455
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Speaker 2: stacking of the thirty four charges of a business records thing.

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Speaker 2: What Alvin Bragg showed you is if you have no

457
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Speaker 2: ethics and you're a prosecutor, you can bring a case

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Speaker 2: against anybody. The famous line from Laventi Berria, the head

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Speaker 2: of the Soviet secret police. You show me the man,

460
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Speaker 2: I'll show you the crime. This is exactly what they

461
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Speaker 2: did with Donald Trump in New York and a similar

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Speaker 2: version of it in Atlanta at the state level.

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Speaker 1: But put that aside.

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Speaker 2: The federal criminal charges, the one in Florida thrown out,

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Speaker 2: and let's all be reminded here for a second. One

466
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Speaker 2: of the reasons I think it was so easy to

467
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Speaker 2: throw that out, although that judge deserves a lot of credit,

468
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Speaker 2: was that they just decided that Joe Biden had too

469
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Speaker 2: much dementia to be held accountable for his actions when

470
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Speaker 2: it came to the handling of classified.

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to take a moment and think about this.

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Speaker 2: The active commander in chief, the president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: He was excused from gross mishandling and retention, willful retention

474
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Speaker 2: of national security national defense information from when he was

475
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Speaker 2: not president. By the way, he could not declassified he

476
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Speaker 2: did not have And they said, look, this guy's brain

477
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Speaker 2: has scrambled eggs.

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Speaker 1: You knows, he means, well, what can you do? He's

479
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Speaker 1: still the president.

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Speaker 2: And I bring it up because one that was one

481
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Speaker 2: of the reasons why I think the documents thing with

482
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Speaker 2: Trump just fell apart.

483
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Speaker 1: It's so absurd.

484
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Speaker 2: So Biden can have classified documents next to the corvette

485
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Speaker 2: in his garage, you know, probably next to uh, you know,

486
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Speaker 2: a razor and a mirror with some white powder on

487
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Speaker 2: it that a hunter might have left around. You know,

488
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Speaker 2: that's okay. But if Donald Trump brings things and has

489
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Speaker 2: them secured in mar A Lago under lock and key

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Speaker 2: that he says he declassified from when he's president. Let's

491
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Speaker 2: do a raid on mar A Lago rate an FBI

492
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Speaker 2: rate on the former presidents and now future presidents residents.

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Speaker 1: My friends, this.

494
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Speaker 2: Requires not just a redo, This requires a reckoning. This

495
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Speaker 2: requires somebody who is going to go into the DOJ

496
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Speaker 2: and inspire a degree of not just anxiety, but yes,

497
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Speaker 2: I will say it outright, fear in those who have

498
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Speaker 2: abused the law. Otherwise it does not stop.

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Speaker 1: This is not about vengeance. This is about justice.

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Speaker 2: Vengeance would be well, now we're going to have the

501
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Speaker 2: Trump DOJ bring frivolous That would be vengeance. Trump DOJ

502
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: bringing frivolous federal charges and trying to ruin people's reputations,

503
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Speaker 2: ruin people's lives, throw them in prison knowing they did nothing.

504
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Speaker 2: That would be vengeance from the Trump administration. Justice is

505
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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. You guys use the law as

506
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Speaker 2: a weapon of politics to destroy people, to bankrupt staffers

507
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: of the Trump administration of the first term, or you know,

508
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: run their finances down. These people didn't have a lot

509
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: of money. They're trying to get lawyers to defend themselves

510
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: with the Russia collusion nonsense to then try to entrap

511
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Speaker 2: anyone around Trump with a series of and they did

512
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Speaker 2: send some of them to prison for all.

513
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Speaker 1: Look at George Papadopolis. Look what they did to that guy.

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Speaker 2: No, people don't really remember it anymore now, he didn't

515
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: do anything. They ended up going to prison for a

516
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I forget what it was because he

517
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: lied about not committing a crime. They say, these people

518
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: are brutal, and they are maniacs, and you have to

519
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: remember they're ideologically lyned. The Weisman's the federal prosecutor. Weisman,

520
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: who was Mueller's pitbull. Remember that he was the guy

521
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: running that investigation. They just used Muller as a figurehead.

522
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: And then we had Muller up there, who was like

523
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Speaker 2: the guy at the end of a Scooby Do cartoon

524
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: and like, I don't know what you darned kids were doing,

525
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: had no idea what was going on in front of Congress.

526
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: A total embarrassment. That was the guy that they used

527
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Speaker 2: to say, Oh, this isn't about politics. No, Weisman is

528
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: a Democrat activist using the powers of a prosecutor to

529
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Speaker 2: destroy people.

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Speaker 1: And you know what he's concerned about this. This is

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Speaker 1: cut six.

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Speaker 2: Here's Andrew Weisman, former federal prosecutor and beloved MSNBC propaganda's

533
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: play it.

534
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Speaker 4: He is selected to nominate, yet to be confirmed, somebody

535
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Speaker 4: for the Attorney General and somebody for the Department of

536
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: National Intelligence that are not just unqualified, but have shann

537
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: they're untethered to the facts and maybe also the law.

538
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: This idea that somehow Matt Gates is going to be

539
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Speaker 4: the person who prevents and stops weaponization when he is

540
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Speaker 4: the exhibit a to weaponization. I mean, we are impure

541
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Speaker 4: George Rwell nineteen eighty four land where you know they

542
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: say black is white and we're supposed to believe it.

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Speaker 2: No, Andrew Weisman is actually exhibited of weaponization. And he's

544
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: a disgrace and he should be disbarred and he should

545
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: be banned from Polite Company for the rest of his

546
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: days for trying to bring down the Republic as some

547
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: ideological leftist scumbag. You need somebody who's going to go

548
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: into DOJ that views it that way. You know, I'll

549
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: just say some of the other names that were being

550
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: bandied about, someone like Senator Mike Lee. I have the

551
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: utmost respect for Senator Mike Lee. He's a brilliant man.

552
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: He knows the Constitution, he's an ethical man, he's a

553
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: decent public servant. I have nothing but good things to

554
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: say about him. Is he a brass knuckles going to

555
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: go in there and really go after people.

556
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: Kind of guy? I don't know. I do think you

557
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: need that. I do think you need that. And maybe

558
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Mike would be that guy. Because this is about justice.

559
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Like I said, anytime they say this is vengeance or no, no, no,

560
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: that would be doing what they did. That would be

561
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: the next you know, all of a sudden, Gavin Newsom

562
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Speaker 2: finds himself in the middle of a Federal Irs you know,

563
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 2: deep audit, and all of a sudden, Gavin Newsom being

564
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Speaker 2: investigated for some nonsense with his finances and money laundering,

565
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: which by the way, wouldn't be hard to do. They

566
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: can do it to anybody. Trump's not going to do that.

567
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: His team's not going to do that. That would be

568
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: venge that would be becoming the monsters that they are.

569
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Speaker 2: And that's not what our side is going to do.

570
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: That's not the promise of the Trump administration. But it

571
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: is going to be rough for some people because that

572
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: is what justice demands.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't say to somebody, you don't say, why why

575
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Speaker 2: did the judge sentence that murderer to prison time? Prison

576
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: is so unpleasant? You go, well, don't murder people. It's

577
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: not vengeance. It's justice, or at least the closest approximation

578
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Speaker 2: to justice that we can get in our own society.

579
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Speaker 2: And then you look at what's going on here with

580
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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice. It's not even just about Trump.

581
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: They went after pro life activists. They started gearing up

582
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: to go after parents at school board meetings as domestic terrorists.

583
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: They locked up nonviolent January sixth defendants in solitary for

584
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: over a year in some cases on the absolutely Kakamamy

585
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: theory that they would maybe have another insurrection. Something middle

586
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Speaker 2: aged guy with a fanny pack and a maga hat

587
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: on who got a little too excited and wanted to

588
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Speaker 2: see what was going on inside the capitol. You're gonna

589
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: lock that guy up in solitary for fifteen months and

590
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Speaker 2: say that he might have another insurrection. Federal judge in

591
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Speaker 2: on that, federal prosecutors in on that what these people

592
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: did is monstrous, So is it? Matt Gates. Is he

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Speaker 2: The answer is he just four D chess to make

594
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: it easier for other nominees to get through This all

595
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: remains to be seen. But here's what I do know.

596
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: Trump deserves to have the team that he thinks he

597
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: should have at this point. And for DOJ, you need

598
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: somebody who goes in there with righteous anger. It cannot

599
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: be Oh, maybe we could have some meetings and like

600
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: improved morale. No, it has to be who did this.

601
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Who decided that it was a massive national imperative to

602
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Speaker 2: lock up middle aged pro life activists.

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Speaker 1: For blocking access to the board. Oh you blocked access,

604
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Speaker 1: somebody had to step around.

605
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Speaker 2: You, lock you up for ten years? Monstrous, monstrous stuff

606
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: was done by the Biden DJ. I adn't gotten to

607
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Speaker 2: COVID yet, by the way, I even gotten to how

608
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Speaker 2: they went full authoritarian when they can get away with

609
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Speaker 2: it now they're gonna lecture us about things.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 2: The reckoning is necessary here, and if it's Gates or

612
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Speaker 2: if it's somebody else who achieves it, and then that's

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Speaker 2: what we need.

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Speaker 1: That's what we need.

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Speaker 2: I'll take your calls on this also, some of your

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Speaker 2: emails you're coming up in a second. But I think

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Speaker 2: you know how I feel about it. Look, you know

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Speaker 2: you've been seeing a lot of the mainstream no we

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to the holidays but treading on Tethel's political peckings.

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Speaker 1: You need Turkey Talk.

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Speaker 2: A limited edition episode in the klayin Buck podcast feed

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Speaker 2: on November seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to play and Buck.

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Speaker 2: While they really are just trying to keep counting votes

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Speaker 2: and finding votes in Pennsylvania until they can change and

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Speaker 2: the resolve these Democrats. They are so shameless. Chris and Tallahassee.

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Speaker 2: You wanted to call in talk let's go.

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Speaker 1: What he got?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, man, as far as Matt Gates goes, I'm

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Speaker 5: one of his old constituents over in Pensacola, and all

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Speaker 5: I can say for Matt is he is a fighter

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Speaker 5: and he's gonna go for what's right. I used to

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Speaker 5: do charter fishing over there, and even for us, he

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Speaker 5: went up against Noah and got a lot of things

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Speaker 5: changed for us, for the right of the people. And

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Speaker 5: I believe getting in the DJ and making a change

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Speaker 5: is gonna be something he can do. The biggest thing

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Speaker 5: is just getting the other Republicans to get him voted

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Speaker 5: in so he can do his job and do it right,

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Speaker 5: like I know he can appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Chris, thank you for calling in from from Tallahassee, where

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Speaker 1: my in laws live. I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 2: You know one thing you know about Matt Gates, and

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Speaker 2: you know about Donald Trump. When the Feds have tried

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Speaker 2: to destroy your life, uh, and and you you beat that,

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Speaker 2: you know you uh, you don't let that happen.

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Speaker 1: You fight through that.

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Speaker 2: Very little that can throw you off, very little that

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Speaker 2: can slow you down. That can scare you, that can

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Speaker 2: call you. I mean, it is a different thing, right.

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Speaker 2: I think it's true of this version of Trump as well, though.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think Trump always had it in him,

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Speaker 2: and I think for Gates, they they tried to destroy it,

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Speaker 2: you know, they tried to destroy and they really did,

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Speaker 2: and and they've been unsuccessful. And obviously now he's looking

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Speaker 2: like he might be the attorney general. And there's something

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Speaker 2: very clarifying about that experience. And I do really believe

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Speaker 2: we need people. We need people to go into DJ

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Speaker 2: who will find the Weissman's and the you know, these

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Speaker 2: special what's the guy named Jack Smith's and these people

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Speaker 2: and make them pay the price for their mouth seasons,

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Speaker 2: not just say don't do that again.

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Speaker 1: Consequence