Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa Booth at the America
Speaker 1: is losing its way, not because of the people who
Speaker 1: just want what's best for their country, they just want
Speaker 1: what's best for their families, but because of the radical
Speaker 1: leftist overtaking our culture and the cowardly leads wielding too
Speaker 1: much power that are trying to drive this country apart.
Speaker 1: Simply put, America needs to recover its values, recover a
Speaker 1: traditional way of life. This is the Truth with Lisa Booth.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. I've got
Speaker 1: a tremendous show for you guys this week. I am
Speaker 1: so so excited about it because my guest is the
Speaker 1: one and only John Voight, Academy Award winning actor, all
Speaker 1: around amazing guy, great patriot as well. He's been an
Speaker 1: outspoken conservative, unafraid to buck the far left Hollywood establishment.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful storyteller. It's always entertaining, always insightful, and
Speaker 1: today I asked him about his upbringing, his career, how
Speaker 1: we got into acting, and of course the state of
Speaker 1: our country. With that, I want to welcome the great
Speaker 1: John Voight to the Truth with Lisa Booth. Mr boy,
Speaker 1: it is my honor. It is my pleasure to speak
Speaker 1: with you, well, at least it's a pleasure to be
Speaker 1: speaking with you. I've been impressed with you, you know,
Speaker 1: down through the years, even so you don't want to
Speaker 1: set and you know, expressed my appreciation of what you're doing,
Speaker 1: and it's it's good to talk to you. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and just so for everyone to note, So I met
Speaker 1: Mr Boy on set when I was guest co hosting
Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends, and you were so kind and
Speaker 1: so humble and just exceptionally kind. That was something that
Speaker 1: really stood out to me after meeting you, just how
Speaker 1: nice you were to everyone and including myself. And then
Speaker 1: well that good for me, yes, good for me too,
Speaker 1: me too. It's much it's much better than the alternative,
Speaker 1: right you bet, you bet us. And it's not nice
Speaker 1: to be on the Fox channel when I am, and
Speaker 1: I pay attention to it, and I've watched your you
Speaker 1: know work over the years now a couple of years,
Speaker 1: and it's you just terrific. So it's always nice to
Speaker 1: see your face and your presence and the various shows
Speaker 1: that you do. Well, Thank you, sir. That's a huge
Speaker 1: honor and huge compliment coming from you. So I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it, you know, And so I think sometimes, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you're a huge Hollywood star. You have had an incredibly
Speaker 1: long career, an incredibly successful career, and so I think
Speaker 1: sometimes when someone has been out in the public so
Speaker 1: so long, they kind of forget you. Who is John Voyett? Like,
Speaker 1: what was your what was your childhood like? Growing up?
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your upbringing. I will.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you know, life is very short.
Speaker 1: People say that all the time to the little kids,
Speaker 1: and then little kids are thinking, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: going to be so long before I get to be
Speaker 1: eighteen or so. It wants so much to advance and
Speaker 1: grow in all of that, and life is very short,
Speaker 1: and a career is very short. And at one point
Speaker 1: somebody asked me, some young lady asked me who was
Speaker 1: Carrie Grant? And I couldn't believe that I was listening
Speaker 1: to this, because in my lifetime he was, you know,
Speaker 1: such a splendid part of our lives, watching his great movies.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe that the kids didn't know him,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm like that now I'm getting older,
Speaker 1: and so the new ones are coming forth and and uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's just interesting to look back on different things. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I I've forgotten the question, what was your childhood like?
Speaker 1: Growing up? You know what, what were your parents like? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what my child I grew up in Yonkers Younger's,
Speaker 1: New York, and I had two brothers. We were we
Speaker 1: were threesome. We were only a year apart, and I
Speaker 1: was in the middle. And uh, from the earliest time
Speaker 1: we you know, we were all a rambunctious, very give
Speaker 1: three kids and my and each one of us went
Speaker 1: our different ways. My my younger brother became enamored of
Speaker 1: music and uh and went on to be a singer songwriter,
Speaker 1: and he wrote A Wild Thing, an Angel of the Morning,
Speaker 1: and many many great hits. And he's still writing today
Speaker 1: and he's a wonderful and he's in the you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Songwriters Hall of Fame and and stuff. And my older brother,
Speaker 1: Barry was always when he was a young fellow, was
Speaker 1: out with his uncle who would come back from the service.
Speaker 1: This was in the forties, and he would go on
Speaker 1: camping trips and stuff. And he was very interested in
Speaker 1: nature and he would take photographsive of the natural world
Speaker 1: and different animals and stuff, and and he became a
Speaker 1: geologist and a a well known volcanologist of volcano expert,
Speaker 1: and he's he's been faded in put into entered a
Speaker 1: major society in the scientific society, very elite society and
Speaker 1: all of that. You know. So the kid we each
Speaker 1: of us in our childhood gave evidence of what we
Speaker 1: wanted to be, and we were given encouragement as kids
Speaker 1: to follow, you know, whatever wherever our loves took us.
Speaker 1: And I as a kid was very playful. I was
Speaker 1: kind of the glue in the family in a certain
Speaker 1: sense for the children because I I kind of negotiated
Speaker 1: between my two brothers, who both are fierce energies and
Speaker 1: uh and we had a lot of fun. And I
Speaker 1: was playful, and I would make up games to play
Speaker 1: and I would When television came along in the fifties,
Speaker 1: I started watching uh uh Saturday night show hour and
Speaker 1: a half show called The Show of Show was your
Speaker 1: Show of Shows? And it started Sid Caesar and Imagene
Speaker 1: Coca and Carl Reiner and Howard Marks, those four and
Speaker 1: it was written. This show was very popular at that time,
Speaker 1: and it was written by mel Brooks Woody Allen Neil Simon,
Speaker 1: all of the great comedy writers. Uh, we're part of
Speaker 1: that show. And so I had a very I didn't
Speaker 1: know it at the time, but I was being influenced
Speaker 1: by really brilliant people in the entertainment world. And I
Speaker 1: used to imitate this fellow, said Caesar a lot from
Speaker 1: for the entertainment of my classmates. And and and that
Speaker 1: became as I looked back, I said, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I think I probably got more out of that. And
Speaker 1: I did you know, on the other years, I've certainly
Speaker 1: learned from many, many people on the way up. And
Speaker 1: but but that initial signature was stay with me. So
Speaker 1: because he was a character comedy actor, right, and I would,
Speaker 1: and I became a character actor. I was interested in
Speaker 1: different kinds of characters and different accents and different behaviors,
Speaker 1: and that examination into those those areas of acting as
Speaker 1: to oppose to leading the leading man kind of actor
Speaker 1: who I have great appreciation for, guys who are pretty
Speaker 1: much the same in every film, and I just know
Speaker 1: how to how to do that kind of work and
Speaker 1: are very charismatic. And I just I went off into
Speaker 1: this other world of character acting and was influenced by
Speaker 1: many people growing into it, you know, and working with
Speaker 1: great people with Dustin Houton and this, you know. And
Speaker 1: so how did you get into it, because you know,
Speaker 1: acting in Hollywood's obviously an incredibly hard career to sort
Speaker 1: of get your foot in the door. How did you
Speaker 1: do it? Well, it was a long process for me.
Speaker 1: No one in my family had any connection to to
Speaker 1: you know, zoo acting or you know, entertainment. My band
Speaker 1: was a golf professional, and he was and I have
Speaker 1: to say, just take a word about my father was
Speaker 1: a He was he loved golf. He was a great
Speaker 1: golf professional. And he had a terrible accident when he's
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. Uh, and he wasn't able to pursue
Speaker 1: it created spin the accident that was happening coming from
Speaker 1: a golf tournament in Chicago, and and the result of
Speaker 1: the injury that he had created calcium depotits and a
Speaker 1: spy and he wasn't able to be flexible, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't able to play play golf on the tour. So
Speaker 1: he lost the great love of his life. Really, but
Speaker 1: he became a great teacher of golf and he and
Speaker 1: we as his children, gained a father at home. He
Speaker 1: wasn't away in the golf tournaments. And with the lures
Speaker 1: of all of that, he was a great father, and
Speaker 1: he was a great storyteller. And I don't know to
Speaker 1: this day how he became so such a good storyteller
Speaker 1: because he came from immigrant parents. His grand his father
Speaker 1: couldn't speak very good English, never did pick up a
Speaker 1: language too well, but was really really charming and funny,
Speaker 1: a good fellow. But my dad, Uh, with the help
Speaker 1: I think of the members of the club. It was
Speaker 1: a German Jewish country club that people couldn't get into
Speaker 1: other country clubs because they were Jewish, so they built
Speaker 1: their own club and my dad was the beneficiary of
Speaker 1: that and our family and h and I think he
Speaker 1: probably learned storytelling from those members as he was caddying
Speaker 1: when he was a very young boy, and the stories
Speaker 1: he told us at bedtime for several years in our
Speaker 1: growing up were very key to UH, to us growing
Speaker 1: properly and to enjoyment of things and insights into things,
Speaker 1: because he would always put little messages into the stories
Speaker 1: and stuff. And whenever you get into that phase of it,
Speaker 1: he's he gave well, you know, boys, you've got to
Speaker 1: you know, know that you won't be able to run
Speaker 1: as fast always, and you will be able to and
Speaker 1: and and so you have to we'd say, tell the story,
Speaker 1: to get back to the story, get back to the story.
Speaker 1: We were very impatient. We didn't why did they tell us?
Speaker 1: But the messages head home, I think. And uh. And
Speaker 1: because of that, man, you know, a lot, a lot
Speaker 1: I have to give my my father and mother great
Speaker 1: credit for for whatever good I have in my personality today.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we we grew up in in that
Speaker 1: in that kind of an atmosphere when I was young,
Speaker 1: and I got caught, as I say, with this imitating
Speaker 1: and being playful and all of that stuff, and I
Speaker 1: thought I would go into it. I never you know,
Speaker 1: it was a very interesting journey that I took. But
Speaker 1: at the end of my college career, my my junior
Speaker 1: year of college, right before I went into my senior college. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I was at College of Catholic University in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Which had a very good drama department, but
Speaker 1: I was in the art department because I thought I
Speaker 1: could get more more attention to other things. I was
Speaker 1: very active in the in the let's say, the politics,
Speaker 1: but also just a social life of the university. And
Speaker 1: that was very good training for me. I must say
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that and I grew from it. But I
Speaker 1: kept asking people what I should do? What do you
Speaker 1: think I should do? You know, who should I be?
Speaker 1: A lawyer? Should I? And I thought about, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a politician may be a teacher. Teacher, I'd be
Speaker 1: a good teacher, and things like that, And and then
Speaker 1: I was walking around campus with a book and I
Speaker 1: looked at at one point I saw this book, and
Speaker 1: I said, what am I doing in this book? And
Speaker 1: of course I knew when I was in the book.
Speaker 1: But it was a book of criticisms of stage work
Speaker 1: in the Golden Age of the British theater, with Laurence
Speaker 1: Olivier and Ralph Richardson and John Gielden, those saws. And
Speaker 1: it was by Kenneth Tynan, the leading critic at that time,
Speaker 1: and he was very gave very elaborate descriptions of the
Speaker 1: different performances in their effects. And I underlined and made
Speaker 1: notes on all of Laurence Olivier's performances. The rest of
Speaker 1: it I wasn't so interested in, but in his performances
Speaker 1: I saw something about how he approached the character that
Speaker 1: he was playing, and how he his choices in building
Speaker 1: a character made a difference in the impact of the
Speaker 1: of the play. I somehow understood that maybe I got
Speaker 1: it from my you know, my father and the way
Speaker 1: he told stories, because because I ingested all of that understanding,
Speaker 1: and and then maybe just there was a talent there
Speaker 1: for me. I saw something. I saw how you affect
Speaker 1: a story. So you so you grabbed the attention of
Speaker 1: the people, and you moved them to this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and and and once and I looked at that and
Speaker 1: I said, actually, I think I even verbally said as
Speaker 1: out loud. It was a load on campus looking at
Speaker 1: this book. And I said, I know what I want
Speaker 1: to do. I want to be him. I pointed to,
Speaker 1: you know, something of Olivier's you know, so that's and
Speaker 1: once I that moment, that epiphany that happened right there,
Speaker 1: that was it. I knew I was going to graduate
Speaker 1: after this senior year, and I was going to go
Speaker 1: on to New York and I was going to study.
Speaker 1: And I knew in my mind at that time these
Speaker 1: are the things that I remember very visit, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, I and I know I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give up. I'm going to do it. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a success. In other words, I knew it was going
Speaker 1: to be challenging. I know what he's going to go
Speaker 1: up to death, but I knew I would. I know
Speaker 1: it's stick with it. I knew would be okay. But
Speaker 1: nobody else if certainly your parents don't when you're going
Speaker 1: going towards such a shaky career, you know, you you
Speaker 1: don't know if your child is going to be able
Speaker 1: to make a living. Sur just one moment, we have
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and then we'll get right
Speaker 1: back to it. You know, you hear about the Hollywood industry.
Speaker 1: I mean you're out at castings and it's really it's
Speaker 1: hard to get in the door, and you read stories
Speaker 1: about people getting your story. But that's exactly well, I
Speaker 1: have family, I have family, I have family in the industry,
Speaker 1: but I've also you know, you like you read about
Speaker 1: different people's stories, like Sylvester Stallone stories always stood out
Speaker 1: to me as well, and sort of his hustle and
Speaker 1: getting you know, Rocky started. But how did you persevere?
Speaker 1: Like what what what was that just trying to get
Speaker 1: your foot your feet in the door. What was that
Speaker 1: like for you of just trying to get that that
Speaker 1: first gig, that that that first opportunity, that first ability
Speaker 1: to show what you had to offer. What was that
Speaker 1: like for you? Well, you don't you when you start out,
Speaker 1: you certainly don't have a lot of experience to tell
Speaker 1: you who you are and what you do to see,
Speaker 1: so you have to gain some experience, and you have
Speaker 1: to And I looked for a teacher right away in
Speaker 1: New York, got a little apartment in New York with
Speaker 1: two other guys. Thankfully they went almost never there, so
Speaker 1: I had the place to myself. It was a little
Speaker 1: bear apartment and there was a great Greek restaurant cafeteria downstairs,
Speaker 1: which was very reasonable and kept me alive. And uh,
Speaker 1: but I tried to go to I went to classes,
Speaker 1: I talked to actors, I took a try out for everything.
Speaker 1: All of that stuff, right, didn't have much success in
Speaker 1: the beginning and long periods of drought, And if I
Speaker 1: finally got I got into an acting coach and he
Speaker 1: wasn't good. I turned out to be very bad. I
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't learning anything. I was actually going backward.
Speaker 1: And then finally I got a teacher who was one
Speaker 1: of the one of the great teachers at that time,
Speaker 1: Sanford Meisner. Sanford Meisner and Stella Adler and Lee Strasburg
Speaker 1: were the three great teachers at that time that that
Speaker 1: you were fortunate enough to you were fortunate if you
Speaker 1: had any contact with And so I learned a basic,
Speaker 1: kind of basic for the for the craft. And of
Speaker 1: course I had I had something in me that was
Speaker 1: an I knew about entertainment. I could entertain people. I
Speaker 1: did have abilities that I knew, but how they applied
Speaker 1: in the real world I didn't know. So so I
Speaker 1: worked very hard. And then when I got through that,
Speaker 1: and I had a little jobs too. Always I got
Speaker 1: a little job, and I got a little job on
Speaker 1: Broadway actually with the very early on playing the Telegraph
Speaker 1: Boy and sound of Music, Ralph the fellow who turns
Speaker 1: the family in, and and the and anyway. So I
Speaker 1: had some success. I knew that I knew I had something,
Speaker 1: and that kept me going. Uh. And then finally, after
Speaker 1: I finished a couple of years with Mr. Meisner, I
Speaker 1: was looking to get a job that would show off
Speaker 1: these talents that I had, and I finally got a
Speaker 1: view from the bridge which is an Arthur Miller play.
Speaker 1: It was the first production of the long the long
Speaker 1: version of that play. And it's a very great play,
Speaker 1: I have to say. And and I was and I
Speaker 1: got that role, and I worked with Robert Daval Bobby Duval,
Speaker 1: and it just happened that Bobby Duvall was good friends
Speaker 1: with Dustin Hoffman and was asked and Dusty was also
Speaker 1: connected to this director role of gross part and he
Speaker 1: showed up to help out with with the directing of
Speaker 1: the piece. So I met Dustin Hoffman, you know, in
Speaker 1: that in that time, and he saw me do some
Speaker 1: very good work. That was the first time that I
Speaker 1: realized that I had achieved something in the class work
Speaker 1: and that I had found some ground, you know. And
Speaker 1: it was like it was like a base to fly
Speaker 1: from in a way. I experienced a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of things in that particular time period where I
Speaker 1: learned about myself. I was very entertaining in the character
Speaker 1: I think I was, and I was very moving and
Speaker 1: powerful as well. So it was a great role and
Speaker 1: the role that was fit to me, and I made
Speaker 1: a mark and therefore I had, you know, a step up.
Speaker 1: Now people were going to be looking at me, and
Speaker 1: that's what happened. And you've been in a ton of
Speaker 1: successful films, you know, starting with you know, Midnight Cowboy.
Speaker 1: That was a big break for you too, even more
Speaker 1: recently winning a Golden Globe for the television series Raid Donovan,
Speaker 1: Why do you think you've been able to have such
Speaker 1: a long and sustained career when so many haven't been
Speaker 1: able to do that? First of all, a good fortune,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I was lucky. But also there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a mystery to me, and it's
Speaker 1: a spiritual aspect. Uh the I was in bad behavior.
Speaker 1: As I look back, and things happened to me where
Speaker 1: I changed my perspective on things and I was lifted
Speaker 1: from that. I was able to get it, get away
Speaker 1: from that, and I became very connected. Although I grew
Speaker 1: up a Catholic, and when I hit New York kind
Speaker 1: of lost that, you know, I kind of left that
Speaker 1: behind and got in trouble with it, you know, got
Speaker 1: away from this understanding of God and and the and
Speaker 1: the rules of life and stuff, and even the examples
Speaker 1: of my parents, who were admirable people. I lost my
Speaker 1: way a little bit, and then I came back around
Speaker 1: and Because of that, I turned into and you know,
Speaker 1: a person who was devoted to God and did a
Speaker 1: lot of meditation and I was able to change and
Speaker 1: in that change many things happened that it was quite
Speaker 1: I have some stories to tell about the mysteries of that,
Speaker 1: But I would I would say that's the mark that
Speaker 1: kept me going, uh, you know, giving me a lift
Speaker 1: when I was very down. I said prayers, and the
Speaker 1: prayers were answered and then ways. So so I'd say,
Speaker 1: there's a spiritual aspect and you talk about God a lot.
Speaker 1: And you know, right now in the country, we're saying
Speaker 1: at the klient in religious affiliation over the past few years.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's why we're having so many problems
Speaker 1: as a country right now. Well, I would say yes,
Speaker 1: I would say yes. I would say we've lost our moorings.
Speaker 1: You know, the stuff that they're feeding our children right
Speaker 1: now is very disturbing. Uh. You know, there used to
Speaker 1: be Remember there's a book everything that you need to
Speaker 1: know you were learned in kindergarten, you know, and that
Speaker 1: was a good book because it showed you how much
Speaker 1: morality and and real basics for life we're taught in kindergarten.
Speaker 1: Taking responsibility for yourself and all sorts of things. And
Speaker 1: we've gotten and now the children are being given poison,
Speaker 1: uh from all of these woke teachings have to say.
Speaker 1: And we've let our guard slip and we have to
Speaker 1: recapture that ground otherwise we're we're doomed society and uh.
Speaker 1: And I feel that we're starting to understand that too.
Speaker 1: And that's why I you know, the last video that
Speaker 1: I that I released was very strong, and I have
Speaker 1: helped to get these videos done, you know, to do
Speaker 1: these videos. But I perhaps i'd read it to you
Speaker 1: and we can talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you you know what what concerns you right now the most?
Speaker 1: In taking a look at the country? You know you're
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I watched the videos that you do.
Speaker 1: I know that you you tweet them out as well, sir,
Speaker 1: and you're a very vocal conservative. What taking a look
Speaker 1: at where we are right now is a nation? What
Speaker 1: concerns you the most? What concerns me the most is
Speaker 1: that we've we've lost our moorings and and we're being
Speaker 1: overtaken by really it's it's a it's an evil that
Speaker 1: is trying to overtake this country and all the greatness
Speaker 1: of this country. Why is it that people want to
Speaker 1: come to this country? Why is it that people are
Speaker 1: breaking down, you know, our borders to get to us,
Speaker 1: And and why is it that the people who are
Speaker 1: most concerned about us are people from who have lived
Speaker 1: under this this tyranny of of socialism, of communism, you know,
Speaker 1: across the world, people from Poland, people from Russia, people
Speaker 1: from Cuba. We're turning into a venezuela. And they see it.
Speaker 1: They can see it clearly because it happened to them.
Speaker 1: They went through all of this, this horror and said
Speaker 1: no and lost their countries. And they see the same
Speaker 1: thing happened to the United States, and this was the
Speaker 1: place that they came to because they needed to say
Speaker 1: to get to a safe shore, they needed to get
Speaker 1: to freedom, they needed to get the opportunity. And and
Speaker 1: now they see that this country, too, is is falling
Speaker 1: under under this evil influence. And and so that's that's
Speaker 1: my concern at this time. I think we all have
Speaker 1: to be very, very concerned. And and therefore I I
Speaker 1: do everything I can because I've gone through a lot
Speaker 1: of this myself from the sixties, and I see how
Speaker 1: it's happened, and I know that the people must be
Speaker 1: courageous and learned and fight this battle for our future generations.
Speaker 1: We have to start. We have to stand up here.
Speaker 1: This is it at such an interesting point. Mr Boye,
Speaker 1: hold that thought right there. We have to take a break.
Speaker 1: I just I have a fundamental respect for people that
Speaker 1: go their own way. You know, it's it's so easy
Speaker 1: to follow the crowd. It's so easy to follow a group.
Speaker 1: It's much harder to stand alone and your convictions and
Speaker 1: in your strength and what you believe, and that is
Speaker 1: what you do. You're exceptionally brave, particularly in an industry
Speaker 1: that doesn't really care for, you know, different diversity and ideology.
Speaker 1: How how has it been like for you as a
Speaker 1: conservative in an industry that typically seems to all be
Speaker 1: on one side of the aisle? Has that been hard?
Speaker 1: It's going to be difficult. It's costing new work, of course,
Speaker 1: because people will are afraid to um. It's the people
Speaker 1: who would would have common sense are afraid to be
Speaker 1: exposed for having common sense. Can you imagine what's going on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really nuts. So I'm kind of a I'm a
Speaker 1: person that everyone Thank God that I've had some success
Speaker 1: in my life so that I can people know that
Speaker 1: when they hire me, I'm going to give a good
Speaker 1: representation of the work and and maybe make their peace
Speaker 1: more successful and uh all of that. But people are
Speaker 1: are afraid to be exposed at this time for questioning this. This.
Speaker 1: I think this this this bad behavior that's going on
Speaker 1: all over the place. But uh, it's it's interesting. It's
Speaker 1: a battle, it's a bottle and and and it's in
Speaker 1: this industry. You see. Initially the KGB targeted the United
Speaker 1: States and and crusechev said, you know, we won't will
Speaker 1: overcome you, but we won't do it with guns. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll just you'll vote vote us into office. That's what
Speaker 1: he said, you know. Uh, And that's pretty much what's happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, they know what they're doing. They targeted They
Speaker 1: targeted the film industry because of its influence. They targeted schools.
Speaker 1: Uh and because we're in a country of freedom, freedom
Speaker 1: of speech, they used it for there as a tool
Speaker 1: for themselves. They took advantage of it, and we were
Speaker 1: we didn't see it coming. So there's an awful lot
Speaker 1: to be said about this, of course, and they're better
Speaker 1: they're smarter people than I do. Well, and I work
Speaker 1: in the media, sir, and you know, I see you. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I work for a network that really tries to get
Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle when you look at other
Speaker 1: networks that do not, like see Ann and MSNBC. But
Speaker 1: I see how you know, a lot of the mainstream
Speaker 1: media really pushes the left Propageau. What role do you
Speaker 1: think Hollywood plays and that as well? Well, I think
Speaker 1: it's a very big surprise that the media can be
Speaker 1: so so captured, so overtaken. How could this be? Don't
Speaker 1: journalists have any sense of pride even you know, don't they?
Speaker 1: But you know they're they're they're low in the totem poles.
Speaker 1: So they keep the mouth shut and they just do
Speaker 1: their jobs. You see, they repeat the party line. This
Speaker 1: is just like rush. I mean, this is just like PROVDA.
Speaker 1: There's no difference. You read the New York Times, You're
Speaker 1: getting funny stuff. So so what what is it? What
Speaker 1: does the guy do? He wants to feed his family
Speaker 1: and he needs to keep his job. It's those pressures
Speaker 1: that they keep it going. I think, So who's going
Speaker 1: to stop this? Well, there are many brave people that
Speaker 1: are stepping up and great brave teachers who are in
Speaker 1: our the industry, the entertainment austry, and in the you know,
Speaker 1: in the news industry that are stepping up and giving
Speaker 1: us a direction. So we have to find those people
Speaker 1: and stick with them and support them. What was it
Speaker 1: about conservatism? You know, when did you become a conservative?
Speaker 1: And what convinced you? Know you talked about your journey
Speaker 1: with religion. What was your journey alike in politics? My
Speaker 1: journey in politics was that I was susceptible to being
Speaker 1: in the sixties. I was just learning to going to
Speaker 1: school to learn to act, wanting to be one of
Speaker 1: those actors that works all the time, you know, needing
Speaker 1: to have success and trying to find roles, trying to
Speaker 1: find all of this stuff. And I was available to
Speaker 1: all of the The politics of that time, which was anarchisms,
Speaker 1: took place in the streets of the United States. You know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of things going on, and I
Speaker 1: when I look back, I say, well, what happened was
Speaker 1: really from the trauma of losing John Kennedy. I was
Speaker 1: a big supporter of Kenny. I mean it was I
Speaker 1: was infatuated with Kennedy, was very it seemed like the
Speaker 1: answer to many things. He was very idealistic, and he
Speaker 1: had this nice way about him and I believed in it.
Speaker 1: And then and the country did too, and suddenly he
Speaker 1: was murdered, and I think everyone was I think everyone
Speaker 1: was hurt by that. When we talk about trauma, I
Speaker 1: think everybody knew where they were when they heard that news.
Speaker 1: I think the fact is that nobody really could figure
Speaker 1: out what exactly happened to this day, and and after
Speaker 1: that things became We had no leadership in the top.
Speaker 1: That's what I felt. That leadership we believed in, and
Speaker 1: that's my personal Everyone knows where they were at the
Speaker 1: time they heard that news, and so I would say
Speaker 1: that was a big blow, and in moved all of
Speaker 1: this leftism, some from from the people in the streets
Speaker 1: who were just advocating free love and this and you
Speaker 1: know all that stuff. But that was also planted by
Speaker 1: by very clever people from the left, which means the
Speaker 1: Communists and the Russian KGB, the German group, the Frankfurt
Speaker 1: School came in. They were on the left, and so
Speaker 1: all of these distortions that took place were manipulated, and
Speaker 1: that was the beginning now since that time, we we
Speaker 1: had one break where we President Reagan and things were
Speaker 1: more clear and different and better, but it didn't last
Speaker 1: very long, and we took our eye especially when the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union collapsed. We felt we had no you know,
Speaker 1: no enemies anymore, and we took our eye off the ball.
Speaker 1: And that's when they moved in. That's when the forces
Speaker 1: that they had started in the sixties moved into our
Speaker 1: schools or education. So they had been moving into the
Speaker 1: education system and took over our industry and and and
Speaker 1: took over the media. So and we can you can
Speaker 1: you can chart that out and see here as and
Speaker 1: villains in that process. But that's that's where we are now.
Speaker 1: We're really facing a takeover. Well, there's just such censorship.
Speaker 1: I mean, you talked about tyranny earlier. I mean we
Speaker 1: look at the fact that the president, the former president
Speaker 1: of United States was banned from so social media. We
Speaker 1: have big tech actively taking a role in silencing or
Speaker 1: suppressing information. I mean even today, if you try questioning election,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that Democrats whied about the election for years,
Speaker 1: if you try questioning an election where we had an
Speaker 1: unprecedented amount of mail in ballots in the middle of
Speaker 1: a pandemic. Uh, you know, you get needed as some
Speaker 1: sort of conspiracy theorist. Why do you think that is? Why?
Speaker 1: Why can't we question the results of election? Well, this
Speaker 1: has been launching Donald Trump has been very interesting because
Speaker 1: Donald who is Donald Trump, Donald Trump as a fellow,
Speaker 1: is very very successful, has many gifts, obvious gifts prior
Speaker 1: to becoming president, right. Uh, certainly got to work with
Speaker 1: many different aspects of our society to put up the
Speaker 1: beautiful buildings that he has, you know, gotten accomplished. It's
Speaker 1: changed the skyline of of you know, New York City
Speaker 1: and the world. Really many many different buildings across the world.
Speaker 1: And he's used to working with all sorts of different things,
Speaker 1: you know, in order to get permissions that you have
Speaker 1: to work with the different city councils and all sorts
Speaker 1: of stuff and and architects and building materials. You have
Speaker 1: to budget stuff, and he had to. He has a
Speaker 1: tremendous arsenal of talents that he's uh that he's been creator,
Speaker 1: you know, calling over the years, and and then he
Speaker 1: becomes president United States. Now he becomes president United States,
Speaker 1: and people didn't know where he was going to go.
Speaker 1: If you remember, they didn't know whether he was going
Speaker 1: to be conservative or whether he was too much on
Speaker 1: the left, because he's been you know, he's been friends
Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton for you know, put money into this that,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he starts. But but
Speaker 1: somebody knew because before he was, before he was actually
Speaker 1: sworn in, they said they're going to impeach him, didn't they?
Speaker 1: The left and the Democrat Party knew he was dangerous
Speaker 1: to them because why why he hadn't done anything yet.
Speaker 1: Part of it was because he didn't have any respect
Speaker 1: for the swamp, you know, the way things go. He
Speaker 1: wasn't You couldn't corrupt him, you couldn't buy him. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's that stuff, you see. But did how did they
Speaker 1: see the power that he was? And it's very interesting
Speaker 1: they were They were went after him with everything they
Speaker 1: had right from the beginning, and he was very friendly
Speaker 1: to many of these people who were leadership in the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party. So something's way off, you see. They knew
Speaker 1: somehow that he was going to be dangerous to them,
Speaker 1: and in fact he was because he's because he's a good,
Speaker 1: god fearing man who has a great talent for leadership
Speaker 1: and he was going to go in and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to clean this up a little bit. And
Speaker 1: he did everything he said he did. And perhaps it
Speaker 1: was the promises he made as he grew towards the
Speaker 1: election that he said he was going to do this close,
Speaker 1: you know, close for the war at the border, take
Speaker 1: you know, take on the challenge of of China, do
Speaker 1: all redo the trade, all of these things that he
Speaker 1: said he was going to do. He actually did the
Speaker 1: most amazing thing because no one has ever done so
Speaker 1: much in such a short period of time. And and
Speaker 1: when you think that he was attacked every day that
Speaker 1: he was in office, it's unbelievable. But what do you
Speaker 1: think happened? Because you've said before, um, you know, you're
Speaker 1: disgusted with the lie that Biden has been chosen as
Speaker 1: if we all don't know the truth, what do you
Speaker 1: think the truth is about? Oh well, I mean I
Speaker 1: think you said it. I mean, there's so much evidence
Speaker 1: that it was it was a stolen election. I take
Speaker 1: this back to the moment when Soros realized that Trump
Speaker 1: had been elected by the American people and he said,
Speaker 1: this is a disaster, and he meant it, and Soros
Speaker 1: is a very interesting character, and he represents all of
Speaker 1: the stuff that's going on. Ah, he's anti Trump in
Speaker 1: every way, and he was not. And he uses all
Speaker 1: his billions two infiltrate into the schools with all his
Speaker 1: foundations and all this is organizations all misnomer by the way,
Speaker 1: because they all represent themselves on being patriotical. They're not
Speaker 1: like like looking at the Constitution. And then it really
Speaker 1: is an attack on the Constitution and that's given to
Speaker 1: the you know, kids in colleges. I mean, he's really
Speaker 1: a supporter of everything at the American So so anyway
Speaker 1: that when he said that, it was like saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: threw down the ground, but he's gonna he's never gonna
Speaker 1: let this happen again. And it was he and the
Speaker 1: Democratic leadership and all of the people on the left
Speaker 1: who gathered together to stop this man and to make
Speaker 1: sure that this next election would not repeat itself. And
Speaker 1: of course they had a big problem because Donald Trump
Speaker 1: gave us the best economy we've ever had, and he
Speaker 1: was doing all all sorts of things you know that
Speaker 1: we dreamed would be accomplished. It needed so badly to
Speaker 1: be done. We were seeing you know, the the country
Speaker 1: go down hill, and all of a sudden, this man
Speaker 1: comes up and has insights and almost every area of
Speaker 1: the problem and corrects it as he goes. Well, some
Speaker 1: quite something and and they were going to but they
Speaker 1: were going to bring him down. So they gathered every
Speaker 1: force they could and tried every deceitful, you know, method
Speaker 1: to attack him and slander him, and they still couldn't
Speaker 1: do it until COVID And so you have to question
Speaker 1: that too. But then coming down to the election, they
Speaker 1: weren't going to do They weren't gonna let this happen.
Speaker 1: They just weren't happen. So that you get all of
Speaker 1: these things about, you know, well, just weakening all the
Speaker 1: ability for people to make a proper vote and be
Speaker 1: properly counted. And that's what they did all across the country,
Speaker 1: And they used every method, and they encouraged every kind
Speaker 1: of bad behavior and uh and I and and those blackouts,
Speaker 1: you know, there's several hour blackouts in the main states, unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and that turned the tide. So yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think we have to pay very close attention to it,
Speaker 1: and hopefully, you know, the truth will emerge and we'll
Speaker 1: catch these people who are this is real, This is
Speaker 1: real criminal behavior of the highest order. Do you think
Speaker 1: President Trump should run again or who do you think?
Speaker 1: Who are you looking at as the future of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. Well, I think we have many great people.
Speaker 1: Actually we should take heart that we have many great
Speaker 1: people in the Republican Party who have stepped up too,
Speaker 1: have gone through this, you know, standing standing tall. I
Speaker 1: can name you know, dozens and that, and that's a
Speaker 1: that's good. But right now I'm I'm watching President Trump
Speaker 1: to see what he's going to do. I think I
Speaker 1: think we have to just wait and see. There obviously
Speaker 1: are other people who can run, uh and be successful,
Speaker 1: and I think the country will show itself next November
Speaker 1: in a very strong way. But I'm watching President Trump.
Speaker 1: He still has enormous influence. People love this man for
Speaker 1: what he has done and for that way he handles
Speaker 1: himself how much. You know what you mentioned The next election,
Speaker 1: which I think is probably one of the most consequential
Speaker 1: elections we've ever had an American history. Personally, I think
Speaker 1: it's going to determine if we become, you know, a communist,
Speaker 1: authoritarian type nation or a nation that is still a
Speaker 1: republic that still believes believes in the foundings of our country.
Speaker 1: How much of a referendum do you think it will
Speaker 1: be on the Biden administration. Well, of course it's going
Speaker 1: to be, But then again, it's gonna be You're gonna
Speaker 1: look to the polls to see if you have the ability.
Speaker 1: And the Biden administration is changing everything. They're doing a
Speaker 1: lot of damage on a daily basis, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to and the Democrat Party is trying to overthrow all
Speaker 1: of the constitutional strengths of our country. Lenn can I
Speaker 1: can I just read? Let me read because a lot
Speaker 1: of people haven't seen that video. Let me read the
Speaker 1: words right now, Biden is these are the words. Biden
Speaker 1: has taken all Trump's works and switched to Obama's carefully
Speaker 1: instructed instructions. This nation is in complete chaos. Let us
Speaker 1: pray for a moment. Let us bless this nation for
Speaker 1: a moment. My dear friends, my fellow Americans. Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump was our savior. This new administration has turns us
Speaker 1: upside down with deceit and destruction. We're all in the
Speaker 1: same frame of mind, hoping, praying for God's miracle, a
Speaker 1: miracle that can cross us over like the parting of
Speaker 1: the See Jesus spoke, Moses spoke, Let God speak, Let
Speaker 1: God heal all our suffering souls. And let President Trump
Speaker 1: feel this because he was truly following God's call, not
Speaker 1: the swamp that destroys. I want to get to the
Speaker 1: end of it, because it's very important. He President Trump
Speaker 1: had a gift for all people, all nations. He loved
Speaker 1: this country, and he did say it until the left
Speaker 1: wing distorted all his work and turned it into the
Speaker 1: their deceit. We the people who have faith, We the
Speaker 1: people that love our country, the U s A. We
Speaker 1: all must focus on what is truly truths, what and
Speaker 1: who has our best interests. Be aware, my fellow Americans,
Speaker 1: the Biden administration has destroyed our nation. But my friends,
Speaker 1: God has a plan. He will show that truths will win.
Speaker 1: No man can lie, stale, or take away the one truth.
Speaker 1: And that is the power of God, the power of righteousness,
Speaker 1: the power of Abraham Lincoln's work, the note he left
Speaker 1: for his nation that this nation under God shall have
Speaker 1: a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people,
Speaker 1: by the people, for the people shall not perish from
Speaker 1: this earth. I really do think, you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about earlier about sort of looking at God and family,
Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the reason why the
Speaker 1: left tends to de emphasized religion. They tend to de
Speaker 1: emphasized families, because if you're rooted in these things that
Speaker 1: are deeper and more important than government, you're not looking
Speaker 1: to government. I mean, they really want a population that
Speaker 1: is completely dependent on the government, that's dependent on them,
Speaker 1: that doesn't have you know that aren't that aren't rooted
Speaker 1: in core convictions like family and religion. It seems sense.
Speaker 1: You know, of the COVID stuff to stay in your house,
Speaker 1: do do this? Do that? Where your mass? Where three
Speaker 1: mess do? What are you doing? They spend their time
Speaker 1: with that. They don't spend their time solving anything. They
Speaker 1: have no understanding of governance. Certainly they have no understanding
Speaker 1: of the economy. I mean, when listen, this is a
Speaker 1: long story with communism. When Lenin took over in Russia
Speaker 1: the Bolsheviks, after four years, he killed four million people,
Speaker 1: starved more four million people than to death, and ten
Speaker 1: years later over five million people were starved by Joseph Stalin.
Speaker 1: I was there in the early nineties and I was
Speaker 1: witnessed to the misery that the people lived under. And
Speaker 1: this is what we're voting in now. We we we
Speaker 1: have we've got to stop this. We've got to know
Speaker 1: that we have a great country with a tremendous, you know,
Speaker 1: set of principles and instructions. We have to get back
Speaker 1: to it, to our happiness. And we're suffering right now,
Speaker 1: and and we have to prevail. The truth has to prevail. Now.
Speaker 1: We have to stand up. Do you think that's why
Speaker 1: I'm You know, Martin Luther King said that he wanted
Speaker 1: his kids to grow up in a nation that they
Speaker 1: were judged on the content of their character versus the
Speaker 1: color of their skin. But it seems like the left
Speaker 1: is pushing, uh, this idea that everyone views each other
Speaker 1: from a racial prism as a prisment versus just looking
Speaker 1: at each other as human beings or fellow Americans. You know,
Speaker 1: why do you think we've arrived at this point of
Speaker 1: such racial division? Yeah, well, it's it's been inserted into
Speaker 1: our country because of all of this stuff, the gender
Speaker 1: stuff that came with the private school. You know, we
Speaker 1: we we've been invaded. We got to know where this
Speaker 1: came from and and you know, reveal it to folks,
Speaker 1: um the this this whole nonsense of you know, diversity
Speaker 1: training programs that are not about racial sensitivity there are
Speaker 1: about demonizing white people now and the constitutional order of
Speaker 1: individual freedom, equality and accountability that the American founders created.
Speaker 1: Dressing up a racial attack, you know, like this and
Speaker 1: demand for conformity as racial sensitivity towards minorities is perhaps well,
Speaker 1: it's the only way such an anti democratic set of
Speaker 1: ideas could possibly be imposed on the American mind. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we're dealing with real bad stuff here, bad thinking. What's
Speaker 1: the path forward? Because you've you've been a student of this,
Speaker 1: You've paid a lot of attention over the years, which
Speaker 1: is obvious in my conversation with you. You know, what's
Speaker 1: what's your hope for America? What's your hope for the future.
Speaker 1: I say, righteousness is done dead. God has not left
Speaker 1: his chair, you know. I say, it's this is It's
Speaker 1: not it's not just going to church. It's not understanding
Speaker 1: that we were here for what? What? What is a
Speaker 1: life worth? What is a life? We have to ask
Speaker 1: that question. Our lives are are given us an opportunity
Speaker 1: to grow, to learn lessons, to grow strong, to help
Speaker 1: to look to other people. What is the basic golden rule?
Speaker 1: Do one too others? Well, all of that is missing.
Speaker 1: Now let's not do do onto others. Meet has another meaning.
Speaker 1: Now do it to your you know, the your enemy,
Speaker 1: do it. Do it to the masses, do it. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's this totalitarian thing that that the American
Speaker 1: founders put behind us, put behind the world. We were
Speaker 1: the you know, the Declaration of Independence. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: these words, and the Declaration of Independence changed three thousand
Speaker 1: years of tyranny. We've watch forth government by the people.
Speaker 1: You know, in a very beautiful, very considered way, that
Speaker 1: these instructions that are in our constitution are golden. And
Speaker 1: we changed the world what we thought forever, but now
Speaker 1: we're being pulled back. So anyway, the answer is that
Speaker 1: God is real and we have to be we have
Speaker 1: to be our better selves, and we have to stand
Speaker 1: now for our children and the future children. And what's
Speaker 1: next for you? You've you've confort you've accomplished a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount in your life. What do you want to do?
Speaker 1: What's next for you? Oh? Well, I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: eighty two years old and I'm still very very active
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and pretty good health and you know,
Speaker 1: and I still love acting, so I'll still do my
Speaker 1: work as an actor, you know, the best I can.
Speaker 1: I probably never never somebody asked me if I would
Speaker 1: retire as No, I don't think I'm going to retire
Speaker 1: as long as I can still play something, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the available. But the idea for me is I'm looking
Speaker 1: after this country the best I can. I feel so
Speaker 1: much my citizenship to this country. I'm so proud to
Speaker 1: be an American patriot and to understand what was given
Speaker 1: to us and to find my myself allied with the
Speaker 1: great people of our history. Um. All those wonderful people
Speaker 1: who have been given memorials in d C. They're they're great,
Speaker 1: great people. All those words on the walls, I understand them.
Speaker 1: And so I'll carry on the best I can to
Speaker 1: see if I can do everything I can be or
Speaker 1: have to leave. Sir. I have a tremendous amount of
Speaker 1: respect for you. You are an incredibly talented actor, You're
Speaker 1: a patriot, and hopefully now I can call you a friend. UM.
Speaker 1: And it's been in such an honor to have this
Speaker 1: conversation with you, and I I so appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: It means the world to me is my pleasure to
Speaker 1: be with you. I didn't find this in this conversation.
Speaker 1: As much as I'd like about you, What would you
Speaker 1: like to ask before we go? I'd really like to
Speaker 1: know what your parents were like, what you what your
Speaker 1: siblings were like? How did you grow up? Because you,
Speaker 1: at a very early age have got so much clarity
Speaker 1: and so much drive. It's wonderful. I so appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You know, I grew up my parents
Speaker 1: are very religious. They're Christians. They believe in God. So
Speaker 1: they taught us belief in God, taught us to you know,
Speaker 1: respect others, to be kind to others, to you know,
Speaker 1: try to practice what you preach. I grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: similar to what you were talking about with your dad.
Speaker 1: You know, my my parents have always been the people that,
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what you want to do in life,
Speaker 1: we support you. And there's even been times where you know,
Speaker 1: I've left jobs. I took a gamble, you know, I
Speaker 1: left a great job to take a gamble on TV
Speaker 1: to see if I could get a contract and make
Speaker 1: it work. And I you know, didn't really have a
Speaker 1: plan in place. It was sort of It was sort
Speaker 1: of something that just came up and it arised and
Speaker 1: I had to make a decision. And my parents were
Speaker 1: fully supportive of it because they knew I loved television.
Speaker 1: They knew that was my dream. So I was very blessed,
Speaker 1: like you to have parents that were just very supportive,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're there, loved, unconditionally supportive no matter what,
Speaker 1: always there to pick you up. And which is why
Speaker 1: I believe that family nucleus is everything in life. And
Speaker 1: I grew up with three brothers, so I had an
Speaker 1: older brother who you know, says that he made me tough,
Speaker 1: you know, practicing, you know, wrestling moves and you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But yes, I grew up in an
Speaker 1: environment where family is everything, you know, and especially I'm
Speaker 1: sure you feel this way, you know, working in in
Speaker 1: Hollywood and working and acting. You know, look media as
Speaker 1: a fickle beast, right, So it's you know, things are
Speaker 1: going great today and I'm fortunate for that, and I've
Speaker 1: worked hard. I blessed to have what I have for now,
Speaker 1: but it could go way tomorrow. And so if that happens,
Speaker 1: what are you left with and what really matters in life?
Speaker 1: And you know, it's friends, it's family, it's the people
Speaker 1: around you. It's the things that are so much more
Speaker 1: important than work or money or or any of this
Speaker 1: other stuff. So I try to keep that in the
Speaker 1: back of my mind too. In an industry that I
Speaker 1: know so fickle, so up and down. Uh, and you
Speaker 1: never know where it's gonna end up. You know, even
Speaker 1: a week from now. Well, you're doing very very well.
Speaker 1: You're blessed to have great gifts, you know so, and
Speaker 1: you're using them wisely. So I'm i'm I'm excited about
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to you. Thank you, sir, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: been an honor. You're the best. I appreciate your time. Bye.
Speaker 1: I want to thank the great John Boyd for such
Speaker 1: an amaze sing interview, and I want to thank you
Speaker 1: guys at home for listening. If you enjoy today's show,
Speaker 1: please leave us a review and rate us five stars
Speaker 1: and Apple podcasts. You can also find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram and at least and rebooth. Special thanks to
Speaker 1: our team producer John Cassio, writer Aaron Kleigman, researcher Margaret Smith,
Speaker 1: and our executive producers Debbie Meyers and speaker New Kinkridge.
Speaker 1: We are all part of the Gingridge three sixty network.