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Speaker 1: not the end. Why do you say that, Polly Wolf?

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Speaker 1: Pretty very agitated Paul. See now, well, if you're a

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him, you know, whether it

424
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Speaker 1: was on the edge and you know, kind of flashing hands,

425
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: dipping around the edge, or inside you know, uh, you know,

426
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: taking a couple of steps up on the guard, getting

427
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 1: the guard to fan out on him, and then countering

428
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: making the inside move and just yeah, I've learned a

429
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Speaker 1: lot from him. Hey, Cameron Thomas our guest here on

430
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage third round picks. So like Sanders

431
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: as well, have you guys bought it? Just the fact

432
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: you play the same position you were taking in the

433
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: same round. Yeah, absolutely, It's been great working with maj

434
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: Why would you describe his game because I know you

435
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: guys are quite different in a lot of ways. Yeah,

436
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: way you approach the game and just your skill sets,

437
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: body types. But it tell us a little bit about

438
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: what you've seen out of him. Yeah, be able to

439
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: work with moj is great. Especially one thing I do

440
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: like as how they kind of drafted different a little

441
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: bit different players. You know, he's a very speed player.

442
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean he jump off the ball as was one

443
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: of the best I've ever seen. And yeah, so be

444
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: able to have that on one side then versus you know,

445
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: have me on the other side with you know, a

446
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: little more power to my game, and it's definitely creates

447
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: a lot of different mismatches and stuff like that. You know,

448
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: I've heard like DJ Humphreys, Cardinals starting left tackle, has

449
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: been the host of big red rage for many years,

450
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: and he let it be known that, you know what,

451
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: as a left tackle, if you're going to keep the

452
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: same guy in there the entire game, I'm going to

453
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: get used to what he brings in his body. But

454
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: let's just say the Cardinals in a game this year,

455
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: go with the maj Sanders and they roteet into Cameron

456
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: Thomas and then here comes Dennis Gardak right six foot

457
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: even or so, a pit bull kind of guy, and

458
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: then a Devon Knard. I would imagine that could be

459
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: a challenge left tackle, just bringing the whole arsenal one. Yeah.

460
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're changing it up on the offensive lineman,

461
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: that's got to be to your advantage, I would think, absolutely.

462
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: So when you're out here, what sort of impression if

463
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: you tried to leave on the coaches going into training

464
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: camp with that being just over a month a month

465
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: or six weeks away or so. You know, I'm just

466
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: trying to be myself out here. And I just like

467
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 1: I said before, discipline is it is a huge thing

468
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: for me. So I'm just trying to show them the

469
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: person I am in the player I am. What's been

470
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: your biggest challenge so far? Cameron Thomas, Cardinal's third round pick.

471
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: A lot of guys at this point will say the

472
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: playbook is that accurate or is it something else? You know,

473
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: the playbook's obviously been a little bit of a struggle,

474
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I've been taking my time outside of

475
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: here and really trying to make sure I make the

476
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Speaker 1: best opportunity. One thing I am struggling with, I guess

477
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: I would say, is man, I gotta get a watch.

478
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: I get a watch man. I'm kind of a little

479
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: too close to so many of these meetings, but um, yeah,

480
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: another playbook has been um kind of something I've taken

481
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: in my own hand. What about your cell phone? Can

482
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: you can you? Can you set the alarm on your

483
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: cell phone? Cameraon that? I can do? Yep, that I

484
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: can do. But I don't always have my phone on

485
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: him at all times. So because what's the rule if

486
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: you're five minutes early, you're late? Is that sort of

487
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: the rule in the NFL? That is it? Yeah, okay,

488
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: I got you, all right, So you've heard it from

489
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Charlie Bolling. Yep, that's good. All right. So what do

490
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: you have plan between now and Yeah, the rookies have

491
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: to stay through the end of the month. I get it.

492
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: But you're there's gonna be a few weeks of downtime.

493
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: What you're planning, You're going back to your hometown of

494
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: San Diego. That is your hometown, right, Yes, there it is. Yeah.

495
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: I was born and raised in Carsbay, San Diego, and um,

496
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, I got some people out there I already

497
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: have lined up to work with, and I'm really excited

498
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: to um use that as an opportunity to get a jump. See,

499
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: you grew up seeing all the Arizona license plates in

500
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: the summer. Now you're gonna have the Arizona license plate

501
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: in the summer. That's all that's gonna work, right, That's

502
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be me. How exciting is it, though, just this

503
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: moment to be launching your NFL career, because I know

504
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: you're all about football, right, I mean, this is gotta

505
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: be a big deal. It means, it means everything's me

506
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: be able to wear that little badge on my chest

507
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: up during practice the NFL badge. I mean it really

508
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: just brings a little kid out of me. I mean seriously,

509
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: it just really it means a lot to me. All Right,

510
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: So you're gonna continue to foster that relationship with JJ

511
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Watt as we wrap it up. You're sort of picking

512
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: your spots, aren't you to engage him? Yeah? No, I

513
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: mean he's a busy man. Like I said, you know,

514
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: he's always doing something and I really respect him for

515
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: doing that. Cameron. We respect to you for giving us

516
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: some of your time, and we look forward to training camp,

517
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: you and my j Sanders and what some of the

518
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: other rookiees are going to do this year Austin. Yeah, well,

519
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. Okay, there you go.

520
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas, everyone, your Mountain West defensive player of the year,

521
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: started all fourteen games a year ago, and he'll be

522
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: out there in training current camp, trying to earn some

523
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: time as a Cardinals, trying to generate a pass rush

524
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: minus Chandler Jones this year. Hey, there's opportunity for playing time.

525
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: There was no doubt about it. Avance Joseph's deep and

526
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: so we'll be back with more on the Big Red Race,

527
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: which was in a by Santan Boord and Gilbert. After this, Jackson,

528
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm burned down. Watch the throw going deep looking for

529
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and touch up Hollywood Row price surprise. He

530
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: is a guy that makes sense for a number of reasons.

531
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Speaker 1: Number one, two years of control costs, getting a dynamic

532
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: receiver who's played inside outside obviously, the chemistry with our quarterback,

533
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: and a guy who can be a dynamic vertical thread,

534
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: which is something we were looking for as well. As

535
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: I had a very strong feeling that the board was

536
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: going to fall away. It did, and I'm awfully glad

537
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: that we made this trade. It's Jim Steve Kime. Not

538
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: long after the Cardinals finalize that trade for Hollywood Brown,

539
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: Marquise Hollywood Brown is an Arizona Cardinal from Baltimore Ravens.

540
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: After a first round of the draft where the top

541
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: six receivers went before pick number twenty rules are picking

542
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: twenty three. That was the reference there, and you heard

543
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: one of his big time touchdown catches on the Ravens

544
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: radio network. I tell you a Wolf and you've seen

545
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: it as well. It's hard not to notice number one

546
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: throwing a number two in these OTAs and the Mini

547
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: camps man. They have instant chemistry. And we talked about

548
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: it this week, didn't we not that if you were

549
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: taken a rookie first round receiver, there definitely would have

550
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: been a learning curve. There is with every single rookie receiver.

551
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: But this is plug and play. Yeah, Paul, you know

552
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: you've been out there watching him, Paul, I typically have

553
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: been broadcasting, but you've actually had the opportunity to watch

554
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: him go out there and play. Listen, he's the run

555
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: by guy the Arizona Cardinals needed. I mean, this is

556
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: something we've talked about, but this is going to open

557
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: up a lot of room for de Hop and zach Ertz.

558
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: It just is you cannot even believe the kind of

559
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: impact that a receiver who can run the way that

560
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Marquis Brown can run is actually going to open things

561
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: up for so many other guys. That's number one, and

562
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: produce big numbers himself. Paul, it sound like, you know what,

563
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: it's not just him without the ball, it's him with

564
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: the ball. He could produce himself. That's number two. And

565
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: number three is you know what you think of the

566
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: offense that he comes from. Now, it's a heavy twelve

567
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: personnel run first offense with the Ravens right, mixing the

568
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: old and the new. Very similar to what I expect

569
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: to see the Cardinals do a little bit this year.

570
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: And he was the number one receiver. When d Hop

571
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: actually gets back into the fold after week six, he's

572
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: not going to be asked to be the number one. Yeah,

573
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: And he's mentioned that, has he not about how he

574
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: looks forward to the fact that DApp will be the

575
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: guy getting the double coverage or the brack of the

576
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: safety over the top. That's something that would always happen

577
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: to him in Baltimore. And you know what, and that

578
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: Greg Roman offense in Baltimore, You're right, it was run first,

579
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: it was tight end second, and then it was receivers third.

580
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: It might have been Lamar running third and then receivers fourth,

581
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean in the packing orders. So the Cardinals feel

582
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: like they can unlock some of this big playability of

583
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: Marquis Hollywood Brown. In fact, Cliff Kingsbury was asked about

584
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: that he can stretch the defense. There's no doubt vertically,

585
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he can really roll. He had a bunch

586
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: of big plays last year, could have had more. I

587
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: felt like that's an aspect. You know, having aj Rondo

588
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: him guys that can can stretch the field from all

589
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: angles is going to be good for us. And you

590
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: heard Steep Kimes say about he can play inside and outside.

591
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: And look, we love Christian Kirk. Okay, he's our guy,

592
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: and he's a great guess so many times in the

593
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. But but Wolf, you tell me he

594
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: was much more effective inside than Christian Kirk ever was outside. Right, Yeah, no,

595
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: you're right about that, PAULI. And once again, way to

596
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: go Christian, way to go a bad guy. I'm just saying, right,

597
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: there are good things to Christian Kirk. But yeah, listen, um,

598
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to have so many different weapons

599
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: to use. And yes, eleven personnel is going to be

600
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: one of those eleven personnel, whether it's in rundown situation

601
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: or otherwise, that is going to be really intriguing to me.

602
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: One back, one tight end, in three wides. Who are

603
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: the three wide receivers going to be? They're gonna have

604
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: multiple eleven personnel packages, Paul, multiple Typically you don't typically

605
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: you just okay, it's what's our starting eleven personnel? One back,

606
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide. Like I said, you know

607
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: what they might mix and match the three wide receivers

608
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: that are going to be in a game, not only

609
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: that Paulie. They may say, um, that tight end, it's

610
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: not always gonna be zach Ertz. When we go eleven personnel,

611
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: that tight end might be Trey McBride. That tight end

612
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: might be Max Williams, depending on the personnel group. Once again,

613
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna have multiple eleven personnel groups. That's exciting, all

614
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: those weapons. Cliff Kingsbury made a dead pan comment to

615
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: the media. I think he was joking, not joking that

616
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: he needs his three weeks of vacation for mental health

617
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: because when he gets back and then de Hop gets back,

618
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot of these guys. Yea, and

619
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: at him as the play caller. You know, where are

620
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: my targets? You know? Because somebody give me the dang

621
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: ball and there's only one of them. So it's a

622
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: good headache to have, There's no doubt about it. And

623
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: I also like that that Marquis Hollywood Brown and Rondale

624
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Moore are already pushing each other. These are two guys

625
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: who are similar in size and speed. They're already feeling

626
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: questions Who's faster, who's going to be more productive and so,

627
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: and then we found out about Hollywood Brown and just

628
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: what sort of practice player is. He's known as a

629
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: grinder in fact, in fact, he was asked, Okay, are

630
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: you taking time off? And if so, how and when

631
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: between now and camp? No, I'm going over starting tomorrow. Yeah,

632
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow. Get my body right, and then you know

633
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: whoever Kyler's at, That's where I'm gonna be. That's and

634
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: you know what, we found out this week that they've

635
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Speaker 1: been spending a lot more time together in the Dallas

636
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Speaker 1: area than we anticipated. So, look, they enjoy each other's company.

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Speaker 1: They're really close friends. Marquis Salio Brown knows that he

638
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Speaker 1: wants to have a big season, obviously with that contract

639
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Speaker 1: hanging into the balance. So the best way to learn

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Speaker 1: the offense and be effective and hang out with one

641
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Speaker 1: of his good friends. You know what, I'm just going

642
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Speaker 1: to go where Kyler is. Yeah. You know what I

643
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Speaker 1: love about that? Marquis is a dog. He's Paul. This

644
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: is a guy that loves to practice. You're just telling

645
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Speaker 1: me right now that a guy loves to practice. He

646
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Speaker 1: just I don't care who it is, Paul, what the

647
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Speaker 1: name is how much money he's making. If you tell me,

648
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Speaker 1: here's the guy that loves to practice and gives a

649
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Speaker 1: lot of effort when he practiced, I'll tell you right alcohol,

650
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: that dude's a dog. He is. And you know what,

651
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: if you look at his backstory, he didn't get a

652
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Speaker 1: Division one scholarship right out of high school. He had

653
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Speaker 1: to go to Southern California from Florida. He had to

654
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Speaker 1: work a side job and then play ball to a

655
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: junior college to put himself through junior college. And then

656
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: he earned it on the field. Boom, he got the

657
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Speaker 1: scholarship to Oklahoma. Then him and Kyler on the scout team,

658
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: they said they would just go out and they knew

659
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Speaker 1: they weren't playing in the game. Was Baker Mayfield and

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Speaker 1: company when Bake was winning the Heisman. They'd go out

661
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: and just try and torch the first team defense. That

662
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: was their game day during practice in the week. So

663
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Speaker 1: he's a guy who's used to earning it. And then

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury was asked about Kyler, and you know what

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Speaker 1: he can teach Hollywood Brown at this point during those workouts,

666
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: Kyler can signal things out to him, talk through the offense,

667
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: how we do things, pace of play all that and

668
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: just continue to build that rapport. Getting that timing together

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Speaker 1: is huge anytime you can have that type of work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they already have that chemistry, Wolf, you

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Speaker 1: tell me, because too often last year we saw Kyler

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Speaker 1: not quite have some of that chemistry with his receivers.

673
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: Aj Green has been blunt and honest and is pointing

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Speaker 1: the finger out himself and he needs to work on

675
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: his relationship with Kyler Murray. So it seems like you

676
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: know it once again, it's just plug and play Hollywood

677
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Speaker 1: and Kyler. Yeah, no, paul it is. It's a huge

678
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Speaker 1: advantage right now, it really is. You think of Derek

679
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Speaker 1: Carrn Davante Adams, right, yep, these guys that were former teammates, Paulie,

680
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: they were friends. Of course they've got that chemistry. This

681
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: is exactly what Kyler Murray has with Hollywood Brown Man.

682
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Speaker 1: It's the reason why I really do believe this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a super Bowl caliber offense. And you know

684
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Speaker 1: what if something else that stands out as we hit

685
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Speaker 1: zoom out on the offseason, and we just talked to

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Speaker 1: the rookie Cameron Thomas. If you go back to win.

687
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Speaker 1: Trey McBride, the second round rookie tight end out of

688
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Speaker 1: Colorado State, met the media. He made a comment in

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Speaker 1: response to why would the Cardinals take a tight end,

690
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: and Trey McBride told the media that coach Cliff wants

691
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Speaker 1: to disguise the offense a little bit more. Yeah. It

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Speaker 1: sort of validates your point, does it not? Of what

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals were when they had Max Williams. So now

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Speaker 1: if they're able to get Tray McBride and hopefully get

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Speaker 1: Max Williams healthy and just sort of keep some of

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Speaker 1: these teams on their heels a little bit more, perhaps,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's a big reason why each of the

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Speaker 1: last two years, in the latter part of the season,

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Speaker 1: with all the film that was out there, maybe just

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00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals offense got a little too predictable. Yeah, Pauline,

701
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Speaker 1: always remember this as well. Super Bowl caliber always means

702
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Speaker 1: prove it. Hey, we'll continue to do that in the

703
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: big red rage position battles. Next, keeps up on the football.

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Speaker 1: This time of the two backs set on fristant goal

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Speaker 1: right right is Noah Grad. I want to give it

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Speaker 1: up Daryl Williams. That's a back to the left ter

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Speaker 1: cutting right into the end zone. Touchdo Chansas City. Daryl Williams,

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Speaker 1: smart and tough, cutting back to his left homes parking

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Speaker 1: up the calls right foot in front of the left

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Speaker 1: of the near hatch, takes the snaptos and the flat

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Speaker 1: darrel way at fifteen ten five lid touchdown Kansas City.

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00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders still aren't covering Darryl Williams. It's a twenty

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Speaker 1: three yard touch down on a flat route in yards

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Speaker 1: after the catch by d will About Chiefs Radio Networks.

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Speaker 1: Some big moments, some big plays in big games from

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Speaker 1: Daryl Williams over the last few years. Smart and tough wolf,

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Speaker 1: So you know what the potential to be worthy of

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Speaker 1: the number twenty four in the running back room like

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Speaker 1: you once upon a time with the Arizona Cardinals. How

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Speaker 1: about ball? Thank you very much. I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 1: attack now momentarily, but let me just say this, Darryl Williams.

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Speaker 1: We had the opportunity BOLLI to actually speak with Darryl

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Speaker 1: Williams and I have not met. Do tell Can I

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00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: tell you right now? It's very interesting. Um, he's a

725
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: lot bigger and a lot thicker than what I thought

726
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: he was going to be thicker as an AJ Dylan thick. No, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, like like his leg day, like that

728
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Speaker 1: kind of thick legs. Yes, the butt and thighs were thick, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now now. He said he told

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Speaker 1: us at the time, Darryl that he wanted to lose

731
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: some weight, still needed to lose some weight, but man,

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Speaker 1: I told him, don't just keep it right where you are. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean. Arguably, that running back

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Speaker 1: room is going to be the most loaded position group

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Speaker 1: perhaps on this team going into camp. Considering you already

736
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Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl running back in James Connor. We

737
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: know Darryl Williams coming off a season where he had

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Speaker 1: a thousand all scrimmage yards, think starting only seven to

739
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: seventeen games for Kansas City, still had a thousand yards

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Speaker 1: from scrimmage. And then you have maybe the guy who's

741
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Speaker 1: the up and comer of the off season, and that

742
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: would be Eno Benjamin who has gotten multiple props from

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. And that's not the only one. Listened to

744
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh on the Day Pash podcast. I think James

745
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of keeps that that same role we'll go out

746
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: there be short yardage. He I mean, he was getting

747
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: out in the passing game, doing screens, doing all those things.

748
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Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. I think a guy to look for,

749
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, he looked great in mini camps so far.

750
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Speaker 1: He's probably been our best outside zone running back that

751
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: we've had on the roster, even last year, and he

752
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: had to learn how to pass protect and that was

753
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: really the only thing. You can't trust the guy to

754
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: be in the game if you can't trust him to

755
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: pick up in pass protection. And he's gone night and

756
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: day from last year this year. So I think he's

757
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: gonna have a big jump. Well what did he say

758
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: right there? Did he see the outside zone? Did you

759
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: hear him say that? Pauls what he said? Oh? Baby,

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00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about, Paul. That is the package

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Speaker 1: of plays that is the panacea. It is what's the

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Speaker 1: passa Part two for the Arizona Cardinals, the end all

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: be all the key that under Paul, that is huge

764
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Speaker 1: right there. Honestly, you tell me they're gonna run the

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Speaker 1: tackle zone and the package of plays that come off

766
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Speaker 1: of that as their base man, that is good news

767
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: to me. I tell you might want to end the

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00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: show right there, considering Wolf's reaction. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can even follow that up.

770
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: But there was the question I was going to go with,

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Speaker 1: is that if James Connor is a power back, and

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00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: he is, although we learned he has a lot more

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00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: in that toolbox right especially catching the ball, and he

774
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: can house it. He can finish some of the Dary

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Speaker 1: Williams is a big back. If Eno Benjamin, who is

776
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: in great shape, like now Rook looks great, do you

777
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: think he fills a Chase Edmonds type role and that

778
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Speaker 1: you know, he's the back who can make the first

779
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Speaker 1: guy miss better than anyone else. Perhaps, yes, PAULI you know,

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: once again, remember when they drafted you know, Benjamin, I

781
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: did compare him to Chase Edmonds. I did. I thought

782
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: these guys were going to get along really, really well

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Speaker 1: because I heard that Eno was very cerebral. Well guess what,

784
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: those guys did get along very very well. And having

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00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Chase on the field, Chase was like Paul, it was

786
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: like having a coach on the field. And I think

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00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin is that kind of brain, and he's that

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00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: kind of grinder He's that kind of guy that's going

789
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Speaker 1: to finish practice and going and watch tape himself. He's

790
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna go home, as a matter of fact, and watch tape.

791
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: He's that kind of guy. And that's exactly who Chase was.

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00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: You know me, Wolf, I love a good conspiracy theory,

793
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: And mayor may not have wondered out loud on air

794
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Speaker 1: with you earlier this week that all this praise Reno

795
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: Benjamin is that because they're setting up a trade because

796
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: they're only going to keep four running backs and special

797
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: teams isn't exactly his special tea. And so you know,

798
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: but I asked around a little bit and the answer

799
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: would be a resounding no. Calvin that he really has

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00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: popped and shined in these offseason workouts and on the

801
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: field when the Cardinals have been out there. So it

802
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: sounds like it's legit. Justin Pugh you just heard with

803
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: Dave Pash brought him up on his own. So, okay,

804
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: the running back room, we get that. Now, what about cornerback?

805
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: Because the Cardinals did sign former second round pick Josh Jackson,

806
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: a four year guy. They signed him today. He was

807
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: on a tryout basis during mini camp. Fact I tweeted

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00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: out some video of him at Paul CALVC and I'm

809
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: just wondering about the cornerback room now after the tragic

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Speaker 1: death of Jeff Gladney, because they want to move Byron

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Speaker 1: Murph be inside, do they not? That's where he excels.

812
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Speaker 1: But are they going to have that ability if they

813
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Speaker 1: don't have a capable outside corner to go with Marco Wilson, Paully,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the running back room again, Okay? Can

815
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Speaker 1: we do that? Paul? I mean corner right now? It is.

816
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: It is an area of concern, obviously, and you know

817
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Speaker 1: who that is going to be, Polly, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're done. There's no way. Man. There

819
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Speaker 1: was a John Abraham that is coming here. There's an

820
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Speaker 1: Eric Winston signing. There's something that is coming here. Paul.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think there'll be guys that get let

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Speaker 1: go as well in training camp that I think the

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00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals will kick the tires on. I think this is

824
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Speaker 1: going to be a constant search leading up to the

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Speaker 1: regular season for that corner, that third guy. I agree,

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Speaker 1: what about inside linebacker Zaban Collins. Isaiah Simmons obviously will

827
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Speaker 1: begin in every chance in the month August to win

828
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Speaker 1: those inside linebacker spots. But will they I mean, that

829
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Speaker 1: is a bit question, is it not, Polly, Yes, it is,

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying to myself, please, please, please please, I

831
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Speaker 1: am please please, Avan Collins and Isaiah Simmons win those

832
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: inside linebacker jobs right there again, Isaiah, I think sometimes

833
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, they move them all over the place, and

834
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Speaker 1: that's great. He truly is an X factor. He truly

835
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: is a rare talent. But sometime, at some point in time,

836
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Speaker 1: you gotta find home, baby, You gotta have a position

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Speaker 1: you can call home. This is where I belong. Yeah,

838
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be creative with me. Yeah, they're gonna move

839
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: me around in special situations. But I got to I've

840
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: got to be a master of one, not a jack

841
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: of all trades, master of none. I've got to be

842
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: a master of one. And look the practice sessions the

843
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: media was allowed to see during this offseason, the entirety

844
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Speaker 1: of the offseason, every time we were out there. And

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Speaker 1: this is according to Craig Griglou, who tracks these sort

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Speaker 1: of things, Isaiah Simmons worked exclusively with the safeties. You

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Speaker 1: never worked position group roles with the inside lineback so

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know what that means exactly. They

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Speaker 1: signed another inside linebacker today, a four year guy who

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Speaker 1: played for the Chiefs most recently, and Ben Nieman. There's that.

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Speaker 1: Then obviously there's the center position pending Roddy Hudson, and

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Speaker 1: then the other position battle is opposite Marcus Golden edge

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Speaker 1: rusher and I mean wolf n It's got to be

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Speaker 1: divine Kennard's job to lose at this point and less

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Speaker 1: a Dennis Gardeck is someone. But even Gardeck, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you really view him as an every

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Speaker 1: down player at this point, do you. You know? Listen,

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Speaker 1: how I know he had seven sacks at ninety three reps,

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Speaker 1: Paul right, Truly, that was pretty dog on good right there.

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Speaker 1: He actually existed and flourished, I should say, advanced Joseph's

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Speaker 1: high pressure complex pressure packages. He did very very well

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Speaker 1: in that. But you know, Polly, I just the Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons thing once again, this might be a situation where

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Speaker 1: they know they're going to play him more at that

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Speaker 1: weekside inside linebacker position. But with all the advancement of

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Speaker 1: this new age, of this new era offense, this spread

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Speaker 1: offense being introduced to the NFL. Maybe they want him

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Speaker 1: to get a lot of safety word, Polly, because they

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Speaker 1: are going to move him around and that's the most

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Speaker 1: difficult thing for him to learn. So maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: they're doing it now. But once the pads go on

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Speaker 1: and they start hitting and running the ball, they're going

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Speaker 1: to put him inside. I said this earlier today and

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground the podcast go Toacy Cardinals dot com orherever

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Speaker 1: you year a podcast. You know what his position is

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Speaker 1: week one against Kansas City. His position is the dude

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Speaker 1: who covers Travis Kelsey. And I don't care if he's

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Speaker 1: listened as an inside linebacker or he's listed as a safety.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. He's the guy who's got to check

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Speaker 1: the all pro tight end Travis Kelsey. That's his role.

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Speaker 1: I just want him to stick his face hitto the

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Speaker 1: fan and like it. That's what I want him to do.

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Speaker 1: In the final moments, would you think of Cameron Thomas

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Speaker 1: our interview, because I tell you there was a great

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Speaker 1: moment we were going into the studio. Coming out of

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Speaker 1: the studio after the Red Sea Report was Kyle Vannenbosch

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Speaker 1: and I introduced camera. Thomas said Hey, Kyle Vannenbosch, and

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Speaker 1: immediately camera Thomas lit up. He knew exactly Kyle Vanbosch

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Speaker 1: was as a fellow great pass rusher, right, he knew

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Speaker 1: all about the fact he played for the Lions. That

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Speaker 1: was a great moment when Yeah, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: love the fact he equated intensity with effort. Ah, I

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Speaker 1: love that right there. I also love the fact that

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Speaker 1: this dude is almost two hundred and seventy pounds and thick. Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got a thick base man. Yeah, he looks pretty

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Speaker 1: good at least going through the garbage cans. He can

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Speaker 1: move for a guy who said he hasn't put his

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Speaker 1: hand in the ground once this entire offseason and that's

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Speaker 1: all he did in college. And then he cited how

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Speaker 1: ultra quick my j Sanders is. So all eyes are

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Speaker 1: on those two third round rookies, no doubt when the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals get to camp, that is their next stop because

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Speaker 1: they are off, although the rookies will be here through

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Speaker 1: the end of the month. Special thanks Jim amhndro, Cody

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Speaker 1: Fincher and Cameron Thomas. Ron willflay on Paul kelbyc This

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