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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jill Winterstein, aka's Spirit Daughter, and today we're talking

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Speaker 1: about what it means to truly feel lovable. I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: down with Amber Ray, the author of Lovable, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about her chart. When I first looked at her

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Speaker 1: naedle chart, all I saw was her four major placements

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Speaker 1: in Scorpio that literally wrote the book that she just published. So,

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Speaker 1: if you have your son's sign in scorpio, or you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of scorpio placements, or maybe you know

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Speaker 1: a scorpio, this episode was designed for you. Get ready

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Speaker 1: to dive deep. Welcome Amber. But it's so great to

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Speaker 1: have you here. I'm so excited to talk to you

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Speaker 1: and dig into your naedle chart. There was so much

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Speaker 1: that made sense because I have your book Lovable. I've

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Speaker 1: read your book Lovable, and I went and even saw

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Speaker 1: you speak, and you know, there was that beautiful gathering,

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Speaker 1: and then I looked at your chart and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there it is. There's the story. It's right there.

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Speaker 2: I can't hear it limiting for me.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting how these things like happen. I'll

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Speaker 1: look at a churn I was like, you can't make

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Speaker 1: this up, and so we'll dive deep into you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of Scorpio placements, and so anybody listening who

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Speaker 1: has a Scorpio sun sign or a lot of Scorpio placements,

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Speaker 1: you're definitely in for a treat because we're going to

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Speaker 1: go deep and Scorpio goes deep and so, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: should be a good one. Have you had your natal

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Speaker 1: chart read before? Like how much you know about it?

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Speaker 3: I have, but you know, I know, I'm like pretty early.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've seen the thing. Someone's walked me. A

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Speaker 3: few people have walked me through it.

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Speaker 2: Over the years.

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Speaker 3: But this is this, this feels you know, I feel

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Speaker 3: like a newbie. Okay, Okay, Like I know there's houses

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Speaker 3: and houses have signs and those mean things, but I

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Speaker 3: can't really tell you more than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So your needle chart, I mean it's basically

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Speaker 1: a picture of the sky three sixty view when you

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Speaker 1: were born, and it's divided in twelve sections, which are

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Speaker 1: the houses, and so the houses are areas of your

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Speaker 1: life and so they represent things like your career, your relationships,

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Speaker 1: your identity, how you communicate, and so there's planets and signs,

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Speaker 1: in your houses, and so the planets are pieces of

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Speaker 1: your personalities and you can kind of think of them

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Speaker 1: as you know, the little parts of you. I always

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Speaker 1: think of like internal family systems a lot of times

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, that's the that's that part, that's

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Speaker 1: that part, and then they're themed by the signs and

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Speaker 1: then they show up in the houses. So the houses

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Speaker 1: are like the arenas that this energy shows up in.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just deep diving into that with you because

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Speaker 1: you have so many placements in your sixth and seventh house,

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Speaker 1: so that's going to be important to really understand. And

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Speaker 1: sixth house is service. Yeah, okay, we also have this recording.

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Speaker 1: We can send you the transcript.

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Speaker 3: Note.

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Speaker 1: I'm a note taker.

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Speaker 2: I had loved my pen and paper.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I love that.

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Speaker 1: The sixth house is the house of service, it's the

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Speaker 1: house of devotion, It's where we give our gifts. And

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Speaker 1: the seventh house is partnerships. And so you really learn

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Speaker 1: through partnerships and partnerships or a catalyst for your own

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Speaker 1: spiritual awakening and growth. But because there's a scorpio component there,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy. And the Scorpio brings

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Speaker 1: the challenge. The Scorpio brings the depth. The Scorpio brings

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Speaker 1: the fire. Even though scorpio's water sign, it brings the fire.

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Speaker 1: When we walk through fires in our lives, we're walking

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Speaker 1: get into all of that, and then just to kind

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Speaker 1: of start your chart off since you don't know too much,

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Speaker 1: we always talk about the Big Three. Probably you've heard

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Speaker 1: that in astrology or if you follow any astrologers on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: it's always about the big three. And that's your rising sign,

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Speaker 1: your moon sign, and your sun sign, and your rising

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Speaker 1: sign is in Tarus, and so that starts your chart,

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Speaker 1: and it also themes your chart. And so Tarus is

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Speaker 1: So for you, that's Tarus. People will meet this Tarus

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Speaker 1: And so we have all this depth in Scorpio. You

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Speaker 1: So your son is your core identity. And so we

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Speaker 1: have all of this depth, all of this wisdom, all

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Speaker 1: of this fire and transformation, wrapped in this tarus blanket,

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Speaker 1: but then they meet the Scorpio part of you, which

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Speaker 1: by fire kind of energy. So I think it's always

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Speaker 1: interesting because Taras and Scorpio sit opposite each other, and

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Speaker 1: so it's always interesting when the rising is opposite the

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Speaker 1: sun because there brings that kind of tension in your

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Speaker 1: life where, wow, do people really understand who I am? Am?

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Speaker 1: I conveying my truth? You know, when people get to

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Speaker 1: know me, will they still love me? Right? So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of a theme of your chart. I mean, have

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Speaker 3: I I just whenever I tell people I'm a Scorpio,

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Speaker 3: they're like, really, there's a there's a like surprise of like,

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Speaker 3: you're not like a Scorpio that I've met, which I

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Speaker 3: A lot my life, but I don't It doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: Get to know the real me, will you still me?

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Speaker 2: I guess at least not in this version of me.

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Speaker 3: But I have found that like it takes a little

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Speaker 3: bit to get to that core depth and like deeper knowing,

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Speaker 3: and it can people can think I have it all

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Speaker 3: need any support. You know, she's she's she's got it

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Speaker 1: There's more going on beneath the surface. And yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: always reaching. And your north note, which we'll get into,

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Speaker 1: rising to meet it. And so I would guess that

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Speaker 1: as you journey through life, you do become more grounded,

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Speaker 1: you do become more present with yourself and others. You

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Speaker 1: There is like a path right that you're on, and

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Speaker 1: you don't always you can trust and surrender to the

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Speaker 1: moment and to what is and give up this urge

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Speaker 1: to control or transform. And so all that scorpio is

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Speaker 1: going to say, let's keep transforming, let's keep burning it down,

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Speaker 1: let's keep rising like the phoenix, and the Tarist is

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Speaker 1: going to go, hey, let's just be for a while

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Speaker 1: And so does that like resonate to burn it down?

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Speaker 1: So do you like to burn it down?

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Speaker 1: I've burned it down more than once in my career.

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Speaker 3: And then of course I've burned down a marriage, yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And it tends to be very It's like I ignore a

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Speaker 2: And then it's like I'm got to burn it all down,

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Speaker 2: and I have to do it in like three weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's like when I started my career in the tech

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Speaker 3: belongings and moved across the country in forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So it was like, you know, I like I move.

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Speaker 3: And then once I knew my marriage wasn't right, I

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That is quick. It's very efficient.

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Speaker 2: One side, it's like, okay, well, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know, yeah, keep playing here? Or should

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right back after a quick break. That

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Speaker 1: that is very Scorpio. Scorpio is very like, okay, it

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Speaker 1: needs to change, we're changing it today. We're going to

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Speaker 1: lot of people are like, isn't it like the sign

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Speaker 1: reborn again. And once you see something and it doesn't fit,

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Speaker 1: change immediately. Scorpio Scorpio sun signs or people with like

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Speaker 1: they don't fear change. They don't feel like a lot

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Speaker 1: but it's familiar. Scorpios don't do that. Scorpios are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they don't fear the unknown so much. They don't

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Speaker 1: feel fear the uncomfortableness of having to change, of having

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Speaker 1: to transform. And so that's a real gift of Scorpios

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Speaker 1: is that they don't they don't fear that. And your

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Speaker 1: son in Scorpio lands in your sixth house, which is

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Speaker 1: the house of service, it's the house of devotion, it's

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Speaker 1: the house of where we give our gifts. So not

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Speaker 1: only do you burn it all down, transform, but then

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Speaker 1: you that your gift, you make that your service to others.

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Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, how can I teach this transformation? How

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Speaker 1: your book makes perfect sense. And so there's this natural

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Speaker 1: it's like fuel for your fire, it's fuel for your gift,

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Speaker 1: it's fuel for how you serve others and offer to

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Speaker 1: the world. And so it really is like a core

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Speaker 1: and your work in this world is to transform. Now,

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Speaker 1: I will say there is a point, especially since you

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Speaker 1: have your self Node, your Pluto, and your Saturn all

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Speaker 1: in scorpios. That's a lot of energy in Scorpio. And

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Speaker 1: so looking at the South No, the South note is

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Speaker 1: what we've come into this world knowing. And I always

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting you say all that because that

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Speaker 1: just have that full presence with our kids, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then it deepens, especially even when they get into

432
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Speaker 1: like tantruming, you know, because you still have to just

433
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Speaker 1: have that pure presence when they're three and they're having

434
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Speaker 1: a tantrum and be like, oh, I see that you're

435
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: upset that you can't use the red plate because the

436
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: red plates in the dishwasher and we have a blue plate,

437
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: and so but that could really help you integrate this

438
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: taris side of the north node and your tar is rising,

439
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: which is all about finding that sheer presence in the moment,

440
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: not a future, not past, not where I'm booking next,

441
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: not where I'm moving next, not when I'm writing next,

442
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: but just sheer presence when you write. Do you find

443
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Speaker 1: that you reach that state as well, that like kind

444
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Speaker 1: of meditative flow.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, It's a timeless pract There is no time,

446
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: you know, when I'm writing, And I think that's probably

447
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: why it's so meaningful to me, because it's the one moment,

448
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: one time.

449
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: Feels like it stops.

450
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or you know, or seas is to matter

451
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: and I can just be fully immersed and flow.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's how I feel. I love writing. It's

453
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Speaker 1: like meditation for me. So not everybody has that. Not

454
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Speaker 1: everybody loves writing. I love writing just because I just

455
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: everything else fades away and time fades away. It's really

456
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: it's really nice. Sometimes I find it hard to get it,

457
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: like to start to actually like it's kind of like meditation,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, to show up on the cushion. But then

459
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: once I'm there, it happened, which is which is really nice. Yeah,

460
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: and just go into that.

461
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Speaker 2: So do you journal or is this more writing writing?

462
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Speaker 1: I do both, like when I was writing my book

463
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Speaker 1: or when I write the work books, like I'm just

464
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Speaker 1: like in it, and then I do journal. I journal

465
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Speaker 1: most mornings, and that I found to be really a

466
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: practice of presence, but also just emotional processing, like I

467
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: process through my emotions and that's what I really use.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, I process. I process through my writing and

469
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Speaker 1: my journaling. So that's where that's where they show up

470
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: and like whatever is going on, I just write about

471
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: them and they come out, which I know you know

472
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: a lot about that piece too as well. Yeah, how

473
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Speaker 1: old are your boys?

474
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Speaker 2: Though I'm not back to my morning journaling.

475
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Speaker 6: Practice yet, there's no I don't know when that's gonna

476
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Speaker 6: happen again.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're three and six, and so my I have

478
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Speaker 1: two jours. I have one like in my meditation room

479
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: and then I have won by my bedside, and so

480
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Speaker 1: if they're up and like they're eating breakfast, like I'll

481
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: journal sometimes at the kitchen counter. And I think some

482
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, that's really important for moms or future moms

483
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: who are listening to understand that it shifts, like your

484
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: practices shift as a mom, and sometimes it doesn't look

485
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: like it. Did you know when I was thirty, I

486
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: would just I was a apastita meditator, and I would

487
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: meditate for an hour every morning, and then I would journal,

488
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: and then I would go for a run, and then

489
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: I would have a smoothie and by the time I

490
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: was done and showered, it was only nine am. Yeah,

491
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: And so then I had like the whole day. And

492
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Speaker 1: then I would meditate for another hour in vipassana, and

493
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: I would do an hour to have yoga somewhere in between.

494
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: And you know, I had all those practices that I

495
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: now teach, and as a mom, I'm like, hey, I

496
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: meditated for eleven minutes and I did it in bed

497
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: and it was great. I have a breath work track

498
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I listened to with my six and a half year old,

499
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm like, I did five minutes of breath

500
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: work with my six year old this morning. Like that

501
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: check done, you know, Or like I journaled or answered

502
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: some prompts, like at the kitchen counter while they had

503
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: their yogurt and syrup, and I just wrote what I

504
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: was grateful for and anything that was coming up for

505
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: me in that moment. And so that's what it kind

506
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: of looks like now. It doesn't it doesn't always look

507
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: like that. You know, that perfection. There are mornings still

508
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: where you know, I'm on it and I'm up at

509
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: five point forty five and I've got my tea and

510
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: my meditation cushion, and you know, I've told their dad, like, hey,

511
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: it's your morning. Like if they get up at six,

512
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: you're dealing with them for an hour, you know, because

513
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: they usually sleep till seven, which is nice. I can

514
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: get that in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's I am

515
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: definitely blessed by kids that sleep, so at least that's

516
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: in the morning. They usually wake me up. Somebody wakes

517
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: me up in the middle of the night, most nice,

518
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: you know. But then that becomes like if I can't

519
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: get back to sleep, that becomes a time to like

520
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: do a body scan or listen to a meditation. You know.

521
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Then I wake up in the morning, I'm like, well,

522
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I meditated at four am and then I went back

523
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: to sleep. Like that counts totally. And so that's important

524
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: to know as a mom, like just get it in

525
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: and it counts.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 2: My son is like mostly saving through the night.

528
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: He'll wake up at like four twenty or so, and

529
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: then I actually get into bed with him and we

530
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: snuggle until seven is usually you're six forty five seven.

531
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Speaker 2: When he wakes. But at four am, I'm like.

532
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay, how do I get these last two and a

533
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: half to three hours of sleep?

534
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: And that's my it is, that's my body scan moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm like this at four am. Four am is when

536
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: we practice.

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00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: That's a great time to practice. I mean the yogis

538
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: love to practice at four am. It's called the Ambrosia hour.

539
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the darkest point at the night,

540
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: right before the sun rises. And like there's some people

541
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Speaker 1: like in Kundalini yoga, they like for like four am

542
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: is when you practice. So you're right there, that's where

543
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: you want to be. But it is important for you

544
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: because you have so much in your sixth thousand, which

545
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: is you know your offerings, your service. You need to

546
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: develop them within you first. So you have to be

547
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: of service to yourself first. Before you can take all

548
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: of this knowledge, take your practices and give them to others.

549
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: They have to be real and lived by you, which

550
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: I believe they are from what I know from you.

551
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I think you live every practice that you teach, and

552
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: so it is important for you to like get in

553
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: your practices and serve yourself so that you can serve

554
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: others because along with your Pluto south note and your

555
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: son in the sixth house, you also have Venus and

556
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Mars in Libra in your sixth house as well, and

557
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: so your sixth house is actually it makes contact with

558
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: both Libra and Scorpio, and so you have a lot

559
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: of placements. You have five placements in your sixth house alone,

560
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of energy. You have a supercharged

561
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: sixth house, and so you have a lot to offer

562
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: the collective, the community. You have a lot of gifts.

563
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: You're here really to be of service in some way.

564
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: You need to live those though, and with Venus and

565
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Mars and Libra. Libra is the sign of relationships and

566
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: love and union, and so these aren't just themes in

567
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: your work or in your book. These are a daily practice.

568
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: So your relationships and every relationship you've ever been in

569
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: has been an act of devotion in a lot of ways,

570
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: both to yourself and your path, and so it has

571
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: been a practice. Your relationships are part of your practices

572
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: because they land in the sixth house, and so even

573
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: your relationship with your son is part of your practice.

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00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: So meditating at four am in bed with your son

575
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: is part of your practice. It's part of what you

576
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: eventually will give back an offer to the world one day.

577
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: What you're learning in that relationship and in that practice

578
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: and venus is how we love. And so you love

579
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: through your practices, you love through your offerings. It's like

580
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: a vehicle for you to give your love to others.

581
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: Is your practices, is your acts of service. And then

582
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: that Mars is action, and so Mars is saying, Okay,

583
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: now I'm going to take all that I've learned through

584
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: my relationships. I'm going to put it into action. And

585
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: so your relationships are this catalyst for you to act

586
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: in service in the world. And that's kind of how

587
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: we put together all of this in your sixth house

588
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: again that area of your life. So again when I

589
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: looked at your chart, I was like, lovable makes complete sense.

590
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Now you know that you and those who haven't read it.

591
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: It's it's Amber's journey from a relationship that was not

592
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: not aligned, not not working, not fulfilling, not centered in

593
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: your heart, and to another relationship through a very scorpionic

594
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: journey of transformation and depth, and and then you gave

595
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: it to the world for other people to learn from.

596
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: It was a gift to other people going through the

597
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: same thing. We'll be right back after a quick break.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that a you know, I don't think

599
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I've ever asked you that, But is that why you

600
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: wrote it? Did you want to be a guide, to

601
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: be a roadmap for others or was it more of

602
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: like a cathartic moment for you to own your story.

603
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: I think it was both.

604
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: You know, writing for me comes from a very personal place.

605
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: So I never set out to write something like I

606
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: want to create the roadmap.

607
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm like I have to.

608
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: I need to understand, unpack, and like figure out what

609
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: happened here. So it comes from like a deep yearning

610
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: and curiosity to understand and know myself really, And so

611
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, writing the book was in parallel with the

612
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: deep work I was doing in therapy, amdr attachment science,

613
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: the different mentors I was studying with, and so the

614
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: writing of the book almost helped facilitate that work because

615
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: it was like my questions were coming through in the writing,

616
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: and then the therapeutic practices I'm doing were the place

617
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Speaker 3: for me.

618
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: To discover, unlearned, relearn, integrate and all of that. And

619
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Speaker 2: so you know, I think It really started from that

620
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: very personal place. But then I realized.

621
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Speaker 3: As I was writing it and telling people what I

622
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: was working on, how many people were like, oh, this

623
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: is my story, or I can relate to this deeply,

624
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: or how many people are in unfulfilling and sexless relationships

625
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: but not talking about it. Yeah, And so you know,

626
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: I of course hoped that my like very you know,

627
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: I didn't think that many people would necessarily like meet

628
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: their person well married.

629
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't know if that was going to be

630
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: what resonated.

631
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: But I thought people would relate to feeling trapped in

632
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: a life that wasn't aligned for them and not knowing

633
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: how to what to do from that place of like this.

634
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: Isn't it And once you know that, what do you do? Yeah?

635
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: So I like I thought that would be the universal thing.

636
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: But what I have been very surprised since the release

637
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: of the book, Like, I mean the amount of dms

638
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: of people like writing me their entire life story about

639
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: how they're moving there, you know, the same story, which

640
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 3: is either you know, I'm dis trapped in this relationship

641
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: or I actually met my person while married.

642
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: And I don't know what to do about it.

643
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: So I mean, like I've had like NBA players message

644
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: to me and be like can you talk to Like,

645
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I have found myself in the middle of

646
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: people's marriages, which was not.

647
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: Wow, you are now a relationship coach.

648
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.

649
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I tell people, like, listen, I'm not a

650
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: therapist or a coach. Yeah, you know, this was my

651
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: story and my experience, but you know, here's some resources.

652
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: That might be helpful.

653
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, amazing, amazing.

654
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

655
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean, did you feel like after you wrote it?

656
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: And I'm only asking because I had this experience with

657
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: my book, which was very personal and very much about

658
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: my life, did you feel like after you wrote it,

659
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, Okay, I'm now done with that story.

660
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: Like did you find closure with the story?

661
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

662
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, to the.

663
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: Point where it was like and it was such a

664
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, in some ways it was such a like

665
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: beautiful story. But like you know, every podcast I went

666
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: on in there like, so tell me about the moment

667
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 3: where you met John, I'm like, there's only so many

668
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: times where I'm like feeling embodied in the way that

669
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I feel like now I'm like telling.

670
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: Here the talking points of what happened, and it started

671
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: to like lose its spark a little bit.

672
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah for me.

673
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, or it feels a distant. It feels distant.

674
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: That's a better. It didn't lose its spark, but it

675
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: feels it feels distant.

676
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: It's no longer like alive in me, which I felt,

677
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: you know, very intensely while I was writing the book.

678
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: But similar to you, I wrote it and I was like, okay.

679
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, complete.

680
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: I didn't understand my childhood in a way I didn't know.

681
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: Right right exactly, yes, yes, and all of those things.

682
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: It was like therapy in itself, I found. And then

683
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: I was like done with it. And I remember when

684
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I was first writing the book, it just felt it

685
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: still felt so present, like everything that was in there.

686
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: And then reading it was of course editing it, and

687
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I am just re traumatizing myself every

688
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: time I have to edit this thing. Yeah, and then

689
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: once it was done, I was like, oh, that's over,

690
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: like chapter completely closed, like and then it felt distant

691
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: like it felt like when I was talking about it,

692
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: like yeah, that happened, but it's no longer really like

693
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in it anymore. It's no longer like this

694
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: defining part of me, Like it's just this thing that happened.

695
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: And so I was wondering if you kind of like

696
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: felt that same.

697
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

698
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you went through the transformation and then you

699
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: give the gift, right, that's that sixth house to the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

700
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: I am not what is my next gift I have

701
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: to give?

702
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: I know, yes, And don't fear don't fear not having

703
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: a gift to give because you're being still right, Yeah,

704
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: don't burn it down because there's something inside of you

705
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: that is like I won't have that. I won't have that,

706
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, Christ for the mill, so to speak, if

707
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: I don't, if I just it and you know, play

708
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: blue blocks with my seventeen month old for a while,

709
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: do that for a long time. You have one more

710
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: placement in Scorpio we haven't talked about, which makes a

711
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: lot of sense too. You have Saturn in Scorpio, which

712
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: actually lands in your seventh house, and so Scorpio makes

713
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: contact with both your sixth and your seventh house, and

714
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: so that Saturn is your planet of commitment, your planet

715
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: of responsibility, and so you have a real responsibility to

716
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: your relationships and so I could see how like in

717
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: your book with your first marriage, there was that like

718
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: desire to stay, that desire to stay committed, because when

719
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: you have Saturn in your seventh house, you're loyal to

720
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: the core, You're committed to the relationship. You're like, yes,

721
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be accountable, Yes, I'm going to do

722
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the hard things. Saturn is that planet that is like

723
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: you said yes, and even if it gets hard, you're

724
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: going to continue go and you're going to stick with it.

725
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: And because you signed up for this and there's no

726
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: backing out of it, and with it being in Scorpio,

727
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: there's that Scorpio pull of transformation, of saying, yet, I

728
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: want to transform this commitment. I want to stay in

729
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: a committed relationship, and I wanted to transform, And for

730
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: you, you took that and you transformed it into a different relationship,

731
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: but still in this committed relationship. So there's like a

732
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: piece of you that is really committed to being in

733
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: a relationship and doing the hard work and going through

734
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: the path, whether it be to leave a relationship for

735
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: another one or to stay in one in the first place.

736
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: But it's like right there, like that that was the

737
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: part of your chart and I was like, oh wow,

738
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: that's like the story of Lovable is in that Saturn

739
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: in Scorpio in the seventh house because there is a

740
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: part of you that is so committed. And also that

741
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: at seventh House also brings in that commitment to yourself.

742
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: So you're committed to yourself being in the relationship that

743
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: is right for you. And I think that's ultimately like

744
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: what came out. But there's a really strong commitment to relationships.

745
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Have you always been like committed to a relationship, like

746
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: even when you were younger?

747
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm you know, I'm a serial monogamist.

748
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I feel like I had I had.

749
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: A maybe a five or six year period where I

750
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: was single. But yeah, I'm a very very committed, loyal

751
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: relationship person.

752
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's Saturn in the seventh But then this

753
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: is how you know, because we're always looking at the

754
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: three things. We're looking at the planet Saturn, we're looking

755
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: at the house seventh and so we could say, oh,

756
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: Saturn in the seventh House is going to make you

757
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: really committed in a relationship. You want to be in

758
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: committed relationships, not just like multiple relationships or like flings.

759
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: You want to be in serious, deeply committed, really relationships.

760
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: Yet we throw in that scorpio and we have a

761
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: whole different theme. Now. The scorpio is like, yes, but

762
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: I want to transform those committed relationships, and the path

763
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: of transformation is going to be burning it down and

764
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: going through the muck and going through the messiness because

765
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: we all know transformation is so messy, going through all

766
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: of that, and so that is your path. And again

767
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: on the flip side, ultimately you're reaching for presents and

768
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: so you know now that you've done that and you've

769
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: walked that path and you've gone through that transformation reaching

770
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: for that presence.

771
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that resonates.

772
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: And then you also have Uranus that happens to being

773
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: Sagittarius in your seventh house too, which Uranus is like

774
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: the great disruptor. It's the planet that awakens us. And

775
00:41:54,760 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: so you're actually awakened through your relationships. So each relateationship

776
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: in your life awakens you to a different part of yourself.

777
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it awakens you to your pain, maybe it awakens

778
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: you to your need to forgive, maybe it awakens you

779
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: to your purpose or your gifts. But each relationship, because

780
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you have your honest in the seventh awakens you to

781
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: really the higher meaning, higher purpose of your path or

782
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: just a piece of yourself that you need to understand.

783
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: Mmmmm yeah that feels true.

784
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It's interesting when we like start seeing because

785
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: you have, like I just laser beamed in on your

786
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: sixth and seventh house because it's like, there's that service

787
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: and then the seventh house is that relationships. And I

788
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: really like I see, and I don't think your intention

789
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: was to write it for this reason, but I do

790
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: see your book Lovable as you know, a service, as

791
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: an offering to others in relationships that they don't know

792
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 1: how to navigate. I'm not surprised at all to hear about,

793
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: like all the dms that you're getting from people, you know,

794
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: asking for more advice on how to navigate relationships, because

795
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: it really is, in a lot of ways an emotional roadmap.

796
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: It's not like you're like, Okay, do this and you

797
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: want to leave your loveless marriage, and this is exactly

798
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: what you do. You know, here's the five steps or

799
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: whatever you know, but it really it's like an emotional

800
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: roadmap of the emotions that you went through, and it's

801
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: emotionally honest and so that's very Scorpio is like I'm

802
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: going to be very honest about the rawlest parts of

803
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: myself and even if I'm judged, even if I'm misunderstood,

804
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to put it out there into the world. Yeah,

805
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: and I think it landed as a gift of service

806
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: to others, and I think you're seeing them too. Yeah.

807
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Now we haven't talked about your moon sign. So your

808
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: moon is your emotional foundation. So getting it back to

809
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: the big three rising sun you just said so much

810
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: in Scorpio, it's like we've got a it's been a

811
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: lot of time. Your moon is in Leo, and so

812
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: you're first of all, all of your rising signs, or

813
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: all of your big three, your rising sign, your Sun,

814
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: your moon are all in fixed signs. So again there's

815
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: that commitment there is that you can be still. You

816
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: can sit with energies and nurture them and grow through

817
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: being still, through holding them through different types of containers.

818
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: So that isn't your chart, and so that all that

819
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: fixed energy and that fixed nature does say yes, like

820
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: sit and grow hold things, don't always be reaching for

821
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: the next transformation. Even though Scorpio is a sign of transformation,

822
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: it actually helps to transform by by sitting with things. Right,

823
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: It's a water sign, but it says, okay, let's sit

824
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: with the water. Let's build a container for the water,

825
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: and let's watch the water transform through the fixed container,

826
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: through that fixed lens of understanding. Leo is a fixed

827
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: fire sign, and that's your moon sign. And so your

828
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: moon is in Leo, which is very very different than

829
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: all of the Scorpio, and sometimes they can feel at odds,

830
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm actually the opposite. My son is in Leo and

831
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: my moon is in Scorpio, so I'm flipped. Yeah, and

832
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I have a rising in Libro, which is also ruled

833
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: by Venus. So we're kind of like a like a

834
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: like match set in a lot of ways with our chart.

835
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: So but the moon, your moon, and Sun, there's some

836
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: tension between them because your moon is in Leo and

837
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: your son is in Scorpio. And so Leo moon is

838
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: all about expression, being seen in your fullest capacity, standing

839
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: on the stage and waiting for the applause, knowing because

840
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: it's going to come. And so this Leo moon is

841
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: this driving force that says, okay, let's get out of

842
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: the depths of Scorpio. Let's get out of the transformation.

843
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: Let's get out from the bottom of the ocean, and

844
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: let's stand in the spotlight and let yourself be seen

845
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: and let yourself be loved for who you are. And

846
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: there is a piece of the Leo Moon that you know,

847
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: talk about low sides and high sides. The low side

848
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: of Leo Moon is doing things for the sake of approval.

849
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: The high side of Leo Moon is saying, no, this

850
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: is what my soul needs to do. I'm going to

851
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: stand in the spotlight. I'm gonna let myself be seen.

852
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: And even if the applause doesn't come, I'm gonna love

853
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: myself anyway. And now a quick word from our wonderful sponsors,

854
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: and so again, like getting back to lovable. I was like,

855
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: and there's the Leo Moon, like standing in the spotlight,

856
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: letting your story be heard. I mean, was there a moment,

857
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, in your launch when all these people were

858
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: buying your book and reading your book that you were like,

859
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I want to hide and never be

860
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: seen again.

861
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: You know, I felt really actually at peace with the book.

862
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: And there were like parts, you know, there were more

863
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: like specific people like my husband's sister. I was like, oh,

864
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: the sex.

865
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Scenes right right right, Like you know, there's there's been.

866
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: Some like very prominent people who reached out and are

867
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: reading the book, and I'm like, you know, like what

868
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: are they going to think of me? You know, that

869
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: sort of thing comes out, But I like larger. I

870
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: felt like really solid around the story. But I think

871
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: in the it was more letting myself be seen once

872
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: I had left my marriage and now I was in

873
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: this new relationship and the fear of judgment and the

874
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: shame I was receiving from, you know, more of a

875
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: smaller circle community. Like I felt like that was how

876
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: can I walk into a place holding his hand?

877
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 2: Like what are you know? People who? What are people

878
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: going to think? You know that I just like up

879
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: and left a marriage and jump to this, you know.

880
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: Whatever those those stories were.

881
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: That was.

882
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: That was very hard for me, But I think that

883
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: prepared me for when the book came out, because I

884
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: felt like once I had to navigate people who I

885
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 3: thought were my dear friends tell me that I didn't

886
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 3: have character and how dare I do.

887
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: Something like this?

888
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: And I'm a narcissistic sociopath and like all types of

889
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: crazy things that I like, I was like what that

890
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: I like heard through this, so like that was what

891
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: was devastating to me. And so I think learning to

892
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: move through that and still like stand and be like

893
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 3: I love myself and I know I made the right, honest.

894
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: Truthful choice even if you don't understand.

895
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: It, and actually I don't need you to understand it,

896
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: and you can feel however you want to feel about this.

897
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: That was like the biggest edge from me and living

898
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: this story was that I was so terrified of disappointing people,

899
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: but ultimately I had to realize that I could no

900
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: longer disappoint myself. Yeah, and then so when the book

901
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 3: came out, I felt like really centered in that. There

902
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: was like you know, I had a I made reels

903
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: of the story and you know, they some of them

904
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: really took off. And there are like thousands of crazy

905
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: comments and people like saying you should be dead and

906
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: like worst.

907
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: Woman on the internet.

908
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: So like, you know, there's things like there on the

909
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: ooh that's like pretty intense received but you know it's

910
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 3: so but it's been like a practice of like I'm

911
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: not you know again, people can be all they feel

912
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: about this.

913
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to take that on.

914
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

915
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: So but that was there.

916
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: But I think the like in general, let myself be

917
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: seen and stand in the spotlight, even though that's funny enough,

918
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: so much a part of my career, like getting on stage.

919
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: To me, I have like tremendous anxiety when I'm going

920
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: to give a talk for the week before.

921
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I remember when my John, my husband, when

922
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: he like went to go to the first talk with me,

923
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: he was anxious and like when I finally got on

924
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: stage and like you know, and he's like, you nailed it.

925
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: He like cried on relief because.

926
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,959
Speaker 6: He was like so terrified that based on my level

927
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 6: of anxiety going into it, he said, I was just

928
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 6: gonna like cannot be able to like pull it off. Yeah,

929
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 6: And then I pulled it off and he was like

930
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 6: thank God, Like why didn't we have to go through

931
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 6: that crazy emotional roller coaster to like stand in the spotlight.

932
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: So that, yeah, that has been I think the part

933
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: of my chart.

934
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: Even though it's like, you know, I'm not standing up

935
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 3: here to be it's because I know I have something

936
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: to say that can be of service, yeah yeah, yeah,

937
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: but it's still like uncomfortable.

938
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, And that's Leo Leo is all about

939
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: being a leader even though it feels vulnerable, and so

940
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: Leo Moon, because the moon really rules our needs, you know,

941
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: it's our emotional foundation, like what we need to feel

942
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: fulfilled in life. Leo moons really need to be seen

943
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: fully in their fullness, in their wholeness, like they need

944
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: that from their partners, from others, from the world around them.

945
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: It's it's not that they're performing in any way. They

946
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: just need to be genuinely witnessed, hopefully without judgment. But

947
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: a true like Leo Moon can kind of deal with

948
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: that judgment because they love themselves, right, And that's like

949
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: the most important thing for really anybody with strong Leo

950
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: placements is to know that the only approval you really

951
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: need is your own and as long as you're like

952
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: rooted in that, then you can kind of take any judgment.

953
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: You can take anything that gets thrown at you because

954
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you're still being witnessed for who you are.

955
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: And it's like there's always going to be people who

956
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: don't agree with you. There's always going to be people

957
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: who judge you. There's always going to be people, especially

958
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: on Instagram that have hateful remarks and say things that

959
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: don't feel good, you know, and you're still being witnessed

960
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: truly for who you are. They're just viewing you through

961
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: their lens, which happens to be a lens of judgment,

962
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, but you're still like being you. You're just

963
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: being you and whatever they say is sort of their problem.

964
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like an important thing for most

965
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: Leo's and Leo moons to understand, is like people will

966
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: always say things and it's usually more about them than

967
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: it is about you at the end of the day.

968
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: But it's just important that you are true to yourself

969
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: and you are standing in your own fullness. And then

970
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: you also have actually opposing your Leo moon, you have

971
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: your Jupiter and Aquarius. And so Jupiter is the part

972
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: of our chart where we really take up space where

973
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: we reach for our potential. This happens to be in

974
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: your tenth house, and so you're really here to reach

975
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: for your potential in your career. Tenth house's career in Aquarius,

976
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: which is standing in front of the collective, which is

977
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: being a thought leader, and being Aquarius always brings a

978
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: unique aspect to it. So Aquarius is the sign of

979
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: that's unconventional that thinks outside the box that will find

980
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, stories or a craft out of life that

981
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense to a lot of people. But

982
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: for you, that's part of your expansion and your potential

983
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 1: is that because of that Jupiter is to find these

984
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: sort of unconventional pathways to your own growth, to your career,

985
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: to your life's work and then bring them to the

986
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: collective and then say, Okay, here they are and maybe

987
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: you won't understand them, maybe you'll think I'm crazy, because

988
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: that's a lot of like Aquarium energy is always like

989
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: are people really going to understand this about me? Or

990
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: are they going to think I'm nuts? But for you,

991
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: it's really about like reaching your potential through finding that

992
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: uniqueness and that unique path that is really just carved

993
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: out by you for you, and then sharing it on

994
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: again this bigger stage on the collective, which is also Aquarius,

995
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: and that is your life's work tenth house. Yeah, and

996
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: so those you're Leo Moon and you're jupidan Aquarius, even

997
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: though they oppose each other, they're actually really working well

998
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: together because that Leo Moon is saying, hey, I need

999
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: to be seen, I need to step into the spotlight,

1000
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: and that Jupiter and Aquarius is saying, yeah, you do

1001
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: reach for that potential. Even if people don't understand, you

1002
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: still lead the collective and you'll you'll become a thought leader.

1003
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for making sounds of my life.

1004
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one more placement than I wanted to talk about,

1005
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: and that's your chiron in your first house. And so

1006
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: chiron is where we see the deepest wound in a chart,

1007
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: and so I always kind of like to look at it.

1008
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: Yours is in Gemini, in your first house. So that's

1009
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: your house of identity. And so it's saying, Okay, I

1010
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: have a wound around being seen, and so how what

1011
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: is the pathway to heal it? Allow myself to be seen?

1012
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: And so I've found that a lot of times people

1013
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: with Chiron in the first house in Gemini, they're very

1014
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: misunderstood as kids, Their words are twisted, they really feel

1015
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: unseen in a lot of ways. There's like a wound

1016
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: around that and shows up in early childhood. And then

1017
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: the pathway to really healing that is saying, Okay, I'm

1018
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: going to let myself be seen. I'm going to write

1019
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: my truth, I'm going to share my story with the world,

1020
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: and I'm going to allow myself to be visible, and

1021
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: that is really a deep healing for you. So just

1022
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: writing Lovable and allowing yourself to be really seen for

1023
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: your truth. And maybe people misunderstand you, but my guess

1024
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: is before that book more people misunderstood you than after.

1025
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1026
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, even you know the stories about family, you know,

1027
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: I really went there with my childhood, which was uncomfortable

1028
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: for certain family members.

1029
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but it was important for.

1030
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: Me to not be seen through how they saw things,

1031
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: but for me to share my own perspective and truth.

1032
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, And I remember you talking about that

1033
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: how you had to have it was actually a healing

1034
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: moment for you to talk about those pieces of the

1035
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: book with your family, and you felt like you were

1036
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: healing like generations of wounds through your book, which is

1037
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: Chiron in the first in Gemini to a Tea, Because

1038
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Chiron's not just about your wounds. It's about ancestral wounds,

1039
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: It's about wounds you've come in with, It's about lineages

1040
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: of wounds. You know that you are here to ultimately heal,

1041
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: and so by really sharing your story and speaking your truth,

1042
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: you're healing forwards and backwards through your lineage and past lifetimes,

1043
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: past and forwards. Hopefully you won't have to come back

1044
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: and redo this again.

1045
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: Hopefully not.

1046
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: Because with the sun in Southound and Scorpio, you probably

1047
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: did this once before, yeah, you know, and both in

1048
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: your sixth house. Yeah, but if I would.

1049
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Have stayed in that marriage, maybe I would have had

1050
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: to come back and do it again.

1051
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: You broke the cycle. You broke that cycle of the cycle.

1052
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But how do you have any other questions

1053
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: about your chart? Has it all feeling for you?

1054
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: So illuminating?

1055
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 3: And also I feel like it makes sense around even

1056
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: I think what I'm creating now. It just this was

1057
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: very eliminating.

1058
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1059
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, great? Yeah, yeah, and just like really remembering that

1060
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: you've so much in your sixth House. So everything you've

1061
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: you've gone through, everything you will go through in life

1062
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: is all meant to be of service to others. But

1063
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: you need to be of service to yourself first, right.

1064
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: You need to make your practices whatever they look like

1065
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: as a mom. I want to like make a whole

1066
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: book that's like mom practices, Like this is how you

1067
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: get in your daily spiritual practices as a mom, or

1068
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: you really need them that ultimately is going to be

1069
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: what feeds your gifts. Not the transformation, not the burning

1070
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: it down, but your practices, your devotion to yourself will

1071
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: help you continue your gifts to others. And you are

1072
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: in this period of time right now that serves your

1073
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: Tentaris North note right where you're just being, where you're

1074
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: just having that full presence. And so if you feel

1075
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: that nag to transform, I remind yourself, no, like I'm

1076
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: reaching for presence, I'm reaching for just being in this

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Speaker 1: moment and that is good enough. That's all I need

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Speaker 1: to do to grow is really just be. I need

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Speaker 1: to make just being my new comfort zone. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, beautiful, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I have service to self first, service service to a star.

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Speaker 4: In my notebook, I think becoming a mom that was

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Speaker 4: becoming a mom while having to launch and get a

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Speaker 4: book off the ground, was like self practices, you know

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Speaker 4: what that would imagine even like journaling, journaling every day

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Speaker 4: for you know, since I was a kid, and then

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Speaker 4: it was I haven't journaled in you know, a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's how do I start to weave in

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Speaker 3: those those practices for myself?

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Speaker 2: Take a shower without thinking of how quickly. I need

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Speaker 2: the shower to end, feel the water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, can't be a practice. I know. I

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Speaker 1: remember getting these like skincare products from this one person

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Speaker 1: and on their side are these beautiful rituals and like,

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Speaker 1: take a moment for yourself and like this should be

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Speaker 1: your morning ritual with like your face oil and your

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Speaker 1: you know, your skin brush and your oil body oil.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, my kid was like I don't

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Speaker 1: even know, maybe nine months old at the time, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I will ever be

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Speaker 1: able to do that. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to get in those practices. But you need, you know,

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Speaker 1: you need to get them in, Like you need to

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Speaker 1: feed that sixth house for yourself because you have so

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Speaker 1: much there, and then that will help you give your

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Speaker 1: gifts to others because you do have amazing gifts to

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Speaker 1: give this collective, and so you need to give the

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Speaker 1: gift to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. What a gift this was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much for coming on and sharing

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Speaker 1: your wisdom and letting us peek into your chart the

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Speaker 1: charge of lovable. You feel very like this, I feel

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Speaker 1: very exposed. Well, I think it's great choose for all

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Speaker 1: the people who feel like they can relate to your

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Speaker 1: story to like understand it. It's almost like a vehicle

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Speaker 1: to understand scorpion, oh, to be on it. So it's

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Speaker 1: really it's really interesting how these things match up in

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Speaker 1: astrology and real life. But tell people where they can

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Speaker 1: find you and where they can find your book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lovable is available everywhere books are sold. I'm Heyamberet

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Speaker 3: on Instagram and Amberray dot com is my website.

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Speaker 1: Great, and we'll put all of that information in the

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Speaker 1: show notes for everybody to find. And thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on and just shar sharing your light

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Speaker 1: and your gifts with us today.

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Speaker 2: Good, thank you for taking me on this beautiful journey.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening today. I hope this

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Speaker 1: episode sparks something within you, maybe a new way of

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Speaker 1: seeing yourself or a question where it's sitting with, or

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Speaker 1: maybe it just helped you remember your power. And if

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Speaker 1: this episode resonated, I'd love for you to share it

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Speaker 1: with a friend who might need to hear it too.

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Speaker 1: And if you haven't already, hit subscribe so that you

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Speaker 1: never miss a cosmic down load. You can find me

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Speaker 1: always on Instagram at Spiritdatter for weekly astro insights and

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes moments, and if you want to dive

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Speaker 1: even deeper, show notes and resources are available at spiritdatter

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Speaker 1: dot com. Until next time, trust your timing, trust yourself,

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Speaker 1: honor your path, and remember the stars don't dictate your future,

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Speaker 1: they illuminate it. See you soon,