WEBVTT - Cradle to Prison

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Governor is a production of I Heart Media and

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<v Speaker 1>three Months Media. Dear Governor Newsom, Dear Mr Governor Newsom,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an open letter to Governor Gavin Newsom, Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Governor news Problem. To read Jarvis Master's book That Bird

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<v Speaker 1>Has My Wings and Autobiography of an Innocent Man on

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<v Speaker 1>Death Row is to know that his opportunity for success

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<v Speaker 1>in living the American dream was hijacked long before He's

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<v Speaker 1>So much is inhaled his first breath, and tragically, his

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<v Speaker 1>story is anything but an isolated experience. There's a disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon in this country in which a population of babies,

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically babies of color, and even more specifically impoverished

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<v Speaker 1>baby boys of color, are pushed out of the womb

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<v Speaker 1>onto a direct pathway to prison. Marian Wright, a woman

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<v Speaker 1>President Emerita and founder of the Children's Defense Fund, who

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<v Speaker 1>identified this trend and coined the phrase cradle to prison pipeline, writes,

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous place for a child to try to

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in America is at the intersection of race

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<v Speaker 1>and poverty. Folk, you know, we're losing it and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going backwards in just one or two generations here and

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<v Speaker 1>this in my belief is that this is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>crisis based by the black community sent slavery in that

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<v Speaker 1>incarceration is becoming the new American apartheid. We're feeding poor

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<v Speaker 1>children about the hundreds of thousands each year into this

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline to prison and the dead in lives um and

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<v Speaker 1>um at younger and younger ages um. And we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to stay stopped because it's gonna under the last fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years of progress. Jarvis grew up on the corner of

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<v Speaker 1>race and poverty, but his particular intersection was so perilous

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<v Speaker 1>it spit him right past the cradle the prison pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>straight to the cradle to death row pipeline. We've enlisted

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<v Speaker 1>in Little McCray, a personal mentee of Jarvis and a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Truth Workers Theater Company, to help us

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<v Speaker 1>tell Jarvis's story in his own words from That Bird

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<v Speaker 1>Has My Wings. It was the late sixties when my mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia and my stepfather Oldis from among the biggest heroin

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<v Speaker 1>users and deals in Long Beach, California. From the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>the house didn't look like a dope house. My parents

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<v Speaker 1>had lots of money from being in the drug underworld,

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<v Speaker 1>so they could afford a front house that drew no

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<v Speaker 1>suspicion or complaints from the neighbors. The house was a

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<v Speaker 1>place where my parents clientele and whoever they chose to

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<v Speaker 1>bring with them could always, the matter the time of day,

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<v Speaker 1>walk right in and shoot their dope indoors off the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of their customers would nod themselves to sleep right

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<v Speaker 1>there on the living room or bathroom floor and stay

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<v Speaker 1>for hours and hours the house. You know, Heroin was

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<v Speaker 1>a big thing, Jarvis masters. Everyone had those little things

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped around on their arms and had a little uh

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<v Speaker 1>shaving kit. They shot dope in the kitchen, They shot

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<v Speaker 1>open in the living room, they shot dope in the restroom.

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<v Speaker 1>They argued about who was who had more dope in

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<v Speaker 1>the other and dope was like all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. To avoid the prostitutes and the narrow dwells

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<v Speaker 1>drifting in and out of their home, Jarvis, his older

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<v Speaker 1>sister Charlene, his younger sisters Bertie and Carlette, and baby

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<v Speaker 1>Dean found comfort in the safety of the attic, their

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<v Speaker 1>own private treehouse. We love that attic that at It

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<v Speaker 1>was somewhere where we just love staying at. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we when we thought there was gonna be violence downstairs,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to that attic when we felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were too hungry to move around, we'll go up

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<v Speaker 1>in that attic. We would that mean, Uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>something that we found it. We thought no one in

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<v Speaker 1>that house would walk in that house or leave that house.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that exists. It was a good place for

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<v Speaker 1>us to be when we thought that there was something

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<v Speaker 1>going down in that house that we didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be around. So yeah, we we we were living that

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<v Speaker 1>attic and it was a really really good place for us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was here that they could sleep soundly like babies,

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<v Speaker 1>despite their empty stomachs, the lack of electricity, and their filthy,

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<v Speaker 1>ragged clothes. An old white woman lived in the house

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<v Speaker 1>behind us. Every morning she will put food off for us.

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<v Speaker 1>She someone knew that we were being left to starve

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<v Speaker 1>in our own house. We counted on her food sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when no adult was around the house for days. This

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<v Speaker 1>was the only food we had. The white woman used

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<v Speaker 1>to set food out for us to and that was

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<v Speaker 1>our breakfast. You know, we always thought that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>had coming. You know, we didn't know if she was

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, and she was doing this for my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have no idea about what that step was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, but we we survived off of it. Jarvis

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<v Speaker 1>has only one vivid memory of his father, just before

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<v Speaker 1>his stepfather Otis came into the picture, and little McCray continues,

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<v Speaker 1>We were all in the bedroom where Mama had been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pack our stuff. In the chaotic frenzy, My father,

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<v Speaker 1>whose name I never knew, banked open the front door, yelling,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you, bitch? I'm gonna kill you and your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Panic stricken, Mama grabbed me, jerked my face up to hers,

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<v Speaker 1>and shook me, saying if anything happens to me, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>take care of your sisters, and she crammed the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us under the bed, one by one, with me

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside. Now I heard my father yelling where

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<v Speaker 1>are those kids, sweat dripping from her face. Her mother

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of the bedroom, hearing the bam bam bam

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<v Speaker 1>about father's fists against her flesh. I knew what happened

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<v Speaker 1>when she got to the next from my sisters, and

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<v Speaker 1>I shook with every blow as if our mother's cries

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<v Speaker 1>or our own and one cries stopped. We can still

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<v Speaker 1>hear the blows. But that wasn't all we heard. The

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<v Speaker 1>furniture was breaking in, glass was flying as the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>fell down from the walls. My father had slammed it

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<v Speaker 1>to us like hurricane. Then with a kick of his foot,

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<v Speaker 1>the bedroom door smashed open, and the storm stood at

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<v Speaker 1>our threast hold From under the bed, while I could

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<v Speaker 1>see was these shoes, the scariest sight I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I freezed my eyes to catch a glimpse of the

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<v Speaker 1>man who filled the shoes, but his voice interrupted me,

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<v Speaker 1>where you motherfucking kids at. I'm gonna kill you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully he never thought to look beneath the bed, but

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<v Speaker 1>the violence their mother endured is indelible. Hearing our dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>a neighbor came in and called an ambulance from home.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, I never asked about my father. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>remembered those shoes trying to stump out the light, of

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<v Speaker 1>my mother taking me to paint the house lass of Forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Though only six point five percent of California's are black,

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<v Speaker 1>African Americans make up of the prison population and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of those condemned to death. The pipeline from

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<v Speaker 1>the intersection of poverty and race to the execution chambers

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<v Speaker 1>in California's state prison is difficult to refute, and along

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<v Speaker 1>the pathway looms largely a highly dysfunctional foster care and

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<v Speaker 1>juvenile justice system. Jarvis and his siblings were removed from

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<v Speaker 1>their mother's care after she was beaten within an inch

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<v Speaker 1>of her life. Though separated from his siblings, Jervis's first

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<v Speaker 1>four years in foster care was a brief, albeit profound

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<v Speaker 1>example of what's right with the system. Dennis and Mamie

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<v Speaker 1>PROCs were elderly, god fearing Christians who first took Jarvis

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<v Speaker 1>into their loving home and under their nurturing wings of

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<v Speaker 1>the Proxies. He writes their faith in the power of

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<v Speaker 1>loving hearts gave me the best years of my childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow erasing many of the horrors I experienced before I

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<v Speaker 1>walked into their lives. Mammy and Dennis was my very

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<v Speaker 1>first foster home, and it was the first foster home.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the first place in my life that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw all the contradictions of where I had came from

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<v Speaker 1>and what I had now. They loved me morning anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. You know, I was the only kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had my whole little bedroom. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole huge backyard, a real huge backyard. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>red porch, the whole thing. You know, how was the

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<v Speaker 1>darling in the house, the darling in the whole block. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was when I first really went to school,

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<v Speaker 1>when I first really got the great first really played

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<v Speaker 1>in the sandbox. Uh, everything you know, and the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between there and where I came from was shocking. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was like I didn't even want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the stories after a while, and they didn't make each

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<v Speaker 1>other stories near they didn't need to know the stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever Social services had communicated to them. They understood where

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<v Speaker 1>I had came from, and they were very understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>that life. They didn't show sadness for it because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to wear that off on me. But they

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<v Speaker 1>understood it. They understood it, and they knew their role

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<v Speaker 1>and having this opportunity, you know, to care for uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to care for me. What are some of your Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>what are my favorite memories? M hmmm, Uh, Christmas is

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<v Speaker 1>and my first bike and my first real day in

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<v Speaker 1>the first grade, in the second grade, and ah made me.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved her so much. Um. What was she like? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>She was. She was rolled off. She was rolling into

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of things. She was your your mother,

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<v Speaker 1>your auntie, your grandmother, uh, your disciplinarian. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>these things, you know, and she would try to be

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<v Speaker 1>all those things to be one kind of person, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where she made herself into For me. Uh, Dennis

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<v Speaker 1>was the same way. You know. They were older folks.

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<v Speaker 1>They made life very very comfortable for me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to do a whole lot. The child

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<v Speaker 1>in me just came rolling back, and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much hurt and pain I had suffered, um being

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned like that. Hm. You you you tell a story

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<v Speaker 1>about them taking you to church? What was that like? Oh? Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I at first, let me just say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never when I first went to church with

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<v Speaker 1>with Mammy and Dennis, I had never ever had seen

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<v Speaker 1>so many black folks in my life. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that had just blown me away. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Mammy was a very very light, loved, appreciative person in

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<v Speaker 1>the church and she always got the best seats. Jennie

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<v Speaker 1>was a deacon, so he always set way up there

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<v Speaker 1>and her friends were They were the most bizarre women

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw in my life. You know. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>they would have them. They would go through these holy

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<v Speaker 1>ghost moments, you know, where they were, they were where

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<v Speaker 1>they be trying to get the devil out of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they'd be spinning on the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>sweating and kicking and like she's having a seizure or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Mammy would then down and put a fan

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<v Speaker 1>on her face, and I'm thinking, oh God, I got

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<v Speaker 1>you out of here, you know what I mean. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't call the they to say we need some help

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<v Speaker 1>here where we need some help, We need to get

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<v Speaker 1>this woman off the ground. No, they just get real

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<v Speaker 1>close to her and fanner fan and woman on the

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<v Speaker 1>face like everything she's doing is okay. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>knew that wasn't cool. You know. I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated it. So I gave my life. I gave

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<v Speaker 1>my allowances back just so I don't have to go. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you gave your allowance back so you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to church. Yeah, they said they made it deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said if you go to church, which I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember because they used to say three bits, four bits,

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<v Speaker 1>so they never said fifty said they I was calling bits,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And at first I was collecting the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coins and everything, and then one morning I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you guys can have this pack. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going you know. Yeah, I was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first executive decisions I ever made in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not confident. Did you stay home? And they

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<v Speaker 1>went to church after he gave the money back. The

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<v Speaker 1>people a cross street babysit at me. I was cutting

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<v Speaker 1>their loss was twice as much, it was. That was brilliant, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was cutting their lives with twice as much. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about how it all came to an end. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the reality that I lived in, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was reality that I learned later. The reality that I

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<v Speaker 1>lived in was that they were getting old and they

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<v Speaker 1>were just not able to keep up with me. It

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't keep up, you know, and it broke their

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<v Speaker 1>heart to have to let me find me another place.

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<v Speaker 1>But in reality, Mamie was diagnosed with cancer and she

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<v Speaker 1>was dying. And that's the story I never got, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So they Dennis couldn't do it by himself. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I left, maybe a month or two after I left,

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<v Speaker 1>she died. I was crushed. That really spuned me in

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<v Speaker 1>a way where I compared everybody to her and no one,

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<v Speaker 1>no one ever got as close to her in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she was. If the proxy showed what's right within

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<v Speaker 1>our foster care system, Earl and Florence du Pomp showed

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<v Speaker 1>quite the opposite. This was the next household. Jarvis was

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<v Speaker 1>shipped too, and it was nothing short of a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>He was little more than a paycheck to them, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less than an innocent nine year old boy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what happened to him for confiding his grievances

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<v Speaker 1>to Mamie and Dennis. Florence looked down at my hands

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<v Speaker 1>and told me to wash before I left the house.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the sink later in when she suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>came up behind me, gripping one of my hands. She

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<v Speaker 1>forced it down into the drain for split second. I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine she thought I dropped the soap and was wanting

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<v Speaker 1>me to retrieve it. And I saw a flip that

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<v Speaker 1>gob was disposal switch. Tips of my fingers felt bits

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<v Speaker 1>of food, bouncing multi role taking blades. I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>put my hand out as Florence kept pushing it down

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<v Speaker 1>for towards the blades. We were like two arm wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know why Florence was doing this. She was

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<v Speaker 1>not only mean, she had become totally possessed. I could

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<v Speaker 1>feel her evil. That's willing to hear my screams. The

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<v Speaker 1>seconds felt like minutes thanks to the soul. She kept

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<v Speaker 1>losing her grip, which may have been was saved my fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever, Florence said, spinning into my air, try

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<v Speaker 1>calling somebody else about what goes on in this house.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't have this hand, don't you ever? Ever? She

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<v Speaker 1>seed it through her teeth. Do you hear me? Do you? Yes? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. I won't, I promise I won't. What the

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<v Speaker 1>trip tell me about him. I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>for many, many years before I even wrote that book,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized there so many people in prison, not

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<v Speaker 1>just on death row, but in prison, had known someone

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<v Speaker 1>like that in their younger life. These are the faces

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<v Speaker 1>and names of people we can I can go out

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<v Speaker 1>to any yard and we can talk about for you

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<v Speaker 1>for for for hours. We can compare life experiences with

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<v Speaker 1>these people. We could show our rooms where we was

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<v Speaker 1>hit when we were first hitting, second hit, and third hit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and what that did to us when we

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<v Speaker 1>ran away from that, and we ran away from something

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<v Speaker 1>just like that and something just like that again, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we found the most safest place is in some

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<v Speaker 1>juvenile hall with the dormitory that had in the structure

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<v Speaker 1>that we went to school early in the morning. We

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<v Speaker 1>came back and when we got in trouble, we got

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<v Speaker 1>uh thrown into a hole. So the dew Ponts is

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<v Speaker 1>very much in that in that way they stack you up.

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<v Speaker 1>You went in there and there's five or six maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, foster kids, and they're in a very

0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:15.040
<v Speaker 1>small room and there were three bump bets, so two

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<v Speaker 1>bump bets but three three decks. I was put at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. I was the smallest. I can raise my

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<v Speaker 1>arm halfway and I can touch the ceiling. It was

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<v Speaker 1>It was junky, it was stinky. It was just completely

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<v Speaker 1>utterly different from where I had been to me raised

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<v Speaker 1>with Mammy and Dennis. It was completely utterly different. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand it at all. And even though I had

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<v Speaker 1>a little with my mother and we had that experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that I can always think about it and reflect back on,

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<v Speaker 1>this was totally different. This was a machine a systematic

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<v Speaker 1>way of because I'm in wealthy by the by the

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 1>exploitation of kids and a juvenile system that was just

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<v Speaker 1>bursting out the scene with what do we do with

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<v Speaker 1>these kids? So that story is a story that you know,

0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 1>has all the environments everything you need to be horrified

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<v Speaker 1>to be that. So many people I know in jail

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<v Speaker 1>and prisons and wherever I've been know they know the

0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:29.000
<v Speaker 1>DuPonts Dupontsism very very It is one of those well

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<v Speaker 1>written books that we all can talk about. I was abused,

0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I was whipped, I was thrown, I was dropped out

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<v Speaker 1>of stairs. I was my hand was forced into a

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<v Speaker 1>a garbage disposed machinery type thing, a rotor everything you know. Um,

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I was made to eat food out of garbage as

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<v Speaker 1>a distillery action. And it was the pits. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the pits. And I watched people for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in my life at that point endure pain. Earlier, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what I knew would being very hungry, starving,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wanting to eat so bad that there was

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there to eat. I understood that. That's fine. I

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.479
<v Speaker 1>did that, that was cool. I understood it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>something of an experience that Mammy and Dennis told me

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<v Speaker 1>that is not what real people do. Only sick people

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<v Speaker 1>do those things. And your mother and your father and

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<v Speaker 1>their friends were not well. I dug it. I understood it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe did I want to believe it so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell no hard story about my mother. That

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<v Speaker 1>might be the case. But this was systematic. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a design way of treating children. It was a way

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<v Speaker 1>of raising kids that were not your own. Their kids

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>lived upstairs, their vituals were flushed. We weren't allowed to

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 1>go up there, and we had to sleep down there. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hell. It was real hell. And someone told

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<v Speaker 1>me how to go to juvenile Hall instead. They showed

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<v Speaker 1>me how to run away just so I can go

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<v Speaker 1>to juvenile Hall instead. So that was the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>place it was. I don't wish that only anyone you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not write at all. Jarvis eventually found the

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<v Speaker 1>courage to escape the bondages of the DuPont House of Terror,

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<v Speaker 1>only to find himself at times homeless or bouncing from

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 1>one foster facility to the next, in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>juvenile detention centers, from the notorious McLaren Hall Children's Center

0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to the even more notorious boys Town of the Desert.

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<v Speaker 1>McLaren Hall incidentally was shuttered years ago under dark clouds

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<v Speaker 1>of rampant abuse and molestation. Boystown the Desert was a

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<v Speaker 1>turning point in my life. It was because of where

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I went after Boystown, After Boystown where all hell broke blues,

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 1>whereafter DuPonts was very abusive on every level. The academy

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<v Speaker 1>was very structured into a military cadet type school where

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<v Speaker 1>every act of violence was justified, every show of cowardness

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 1>were treated with the most disrespect, and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>challenge to keep up with that stuff. We were forced

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<v Speaker 1>to fight. We was forced to learn how to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>We were forced to run. We were forced to endure pain.

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<v Speaker 1>We were forced to give of pain, to issuate pain,

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<v Speaker 1>to to to enjoy it, to make people feel they

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<v Speaker 1>deserved it. We were programmed to be very very violent people,

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:16.959
<v Speaker 1>young kids. We challenge each other by putting cigarettes between

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<v Speaker 1>our arms and to see who flinched. Counselors, cadet counselors

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 1>were bet on that, and I was trained to be

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<v Speaker 1>very very violent. That was a turning point in my life.

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:35.919
<v Speaker 1>That child that was abandoned, that that small house and

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<v Speaker 1>that kid that that that toddler who was with Mami

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<v Speaker 1>and Dennis, that kids that didn't understand why people treated

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<v Speaker 1>people so bad, and the DuPonts, then the peer pressuret

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<v Speaker 1>boys town nothing. None of those compared to the California

0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Military Academy. Nothing. We were made to hurt people and

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<v Speaker 1>made to endure pain. I was pretty good at it

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>because I kind of looked up to these guys, you know,

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the counselors, you know, who showed me how to kick

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>box and showed me how to fight, and showed me

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<v Speaker 1>how to not lose, and show me how to take

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<v Speaker 1>pain by cigarette butts, and who would buy me a

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>six pack up Sodas if I can keep my arm

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:36.160
<v Speaker 1>there the longest. It was a very, very very painful thing.

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I compared its training bulldogs at an early age. It

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>was training bulldogs at an early age for me to

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<v Speaker 1>a flick violence. I've seen guys get buffed in their

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<v Speaker 1>head with sticks and they did not had cried, you know,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't if they had a has to have

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a pistol that was shut up everybody in there. Then

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I see that a lot when I think about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the virus I see today. I was taught violence

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and then and I don't never think I I really

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>came back from that. In my early age teenage years,

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I learned almost everything that I needed to learn to

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<v Speaker 1>defend myself, and I got pretty good at it. Just

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>something about me just locked up, just locked in, you know.

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>It was something about me that just said that you

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<v Speaker 1>on your own. Now, you know, when you were the way,

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, make sure no one hurts you when you

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<v Speaker 1>any other place you go to, you know, make sure

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 1>no one hurts you. You're not going to depend on

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>asking people are telling on anyone or you know this

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>guy he hit me in the face. There was none

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of that, no more. There was none of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I met all these guys in prison almost you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what blows me and where even when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it today, it was based on your performance

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>in the academy that reflected who you were when you

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>got to prison. If you were week depended upon someone else,

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>scared taking advantage of in the academy, you was expected

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<v Speaker 1>to be that same person when you got to prison,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and people made you that same person when you got

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.959
<v Speaker 1>the prison got stabbed because they were that same person.

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So that would make me strong that would make me survive,

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>because my track record as a kid really reflected everywhere

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>else I've been. Even today, I know, I know that

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>young kids who are in June all they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of for who they were when they were

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<v Speaker 1>in June the hall when they come to prison, because

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the history follows you. Those life experiences as children in

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<v Speaker 1>foster homes, boys homes, champs has follow us where we

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<v Speaker 1>go if we're going in the direction of prisons. Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Newsome, I want to tell you about a man

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I've come to know, someone extraordinary. His name is Jarvis j. Masters.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>He inspires people and helps them. Indeed, he's changed lives

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and save them. But what's most remarkable is that Jarvis

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>has done this while being incarcerated on death row in

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>San Quentin. He's there because he was framed for a

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>crime he didn't commit. There's in controvertible evidence to prove this.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>But in spite of that, he's been on death row

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>for three decades, including twenty two years in solitary confinement.

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Even amid that injustice and in those appalling conditions, he's

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>been a force for good. My name is David Chef.

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm a journalist who has written about social justice, politics,

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>mental health, and many other issues, most recently folk sing

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>on our nation's drug use and addiction crises. In addition,

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the final stages of a book I've been

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.479
<v Speaker 1>working on for three years, a biography of masters entitled

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.719
<v Speaker 1>The Buddhist on Death Row. When I met David Scheff,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>he convinced me, with very few words that that I

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>had a story. It's an extraordinary story. And when I

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>hope and believe will enlighten and inspire. She did not

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>just come here one day in this start tape of

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>me and that was it. She came here consistently going

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>over things, going back over the finding out things, wondering

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>about this. I mean, he is a real biographer. I

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>suspect that he has at least fifty takes, you know,

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>two hundred, three hundred, maybe fourred of tapes. In the book,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I chronicled Jarvis's journey. He had a difficult childhood characterized

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>by neglect and physical abuse, and as he fully admits,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>he committed crimes when he was a teenager. Jarvis has

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>never killed. I'll say that again. He has never are killed,

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's open about the crimes he did commit, and

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>he's repeatedly described his remorse. When Jarvis was incarcerated in

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>San Quentin, it was different than it is now. A

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>former warden described it to me as a war zone.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Jarvis was thrown into that war zone when he was

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>still an adolescent. He was only nineteen. Four years later,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.959
<v Speaker 1>a terrible crime was committed. A correctional officer was murdered.

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Jarvis wasn't involved with the murder, but he was framed.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't defend himself. He would have been murdered himself

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>if he had. As a result, Jarvis was condemned and

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>sentenced to death. Tragically, we've all heard similar stories about

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>wrongful convictions, innocent men being locked up in our nation's prisons.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Far too many languish there for the remainder of their lives,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and many in that situation grow angry and bitter, and

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>many have killed themselves. Jarvis went another way. As I said,

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he has changed lives and saved them. Jarvis has taught

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>so called troubled teenagers non violence and challenged them to

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<v Speaker 1>rethink their definitions of man hood. He's taught them that

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<v Speaker 1>being a man isn't what they had been taught someone cold,

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<v Speaker 1>hard stock and violent, but instead is someone conscientious, open

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<v Speaker 1>and loving, a good father and friend, a citizen who

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<v Speaker 1>contributes to his or horror community. A condemned prisoner told

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<v Speaker 1>me about Jervis's breaking in viable prison codes, intervening in

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<v Speaker 1>conflicts on the yard that would have led to violence,

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<v Speaker 1>and helping inmates who are vulnerable to attack even more improbable.

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<v Speaker 1>In my research, I found examples of Jarvis's preventing murder

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<v Speaker 1>of prisoners, and in two cases I've documented preventing the

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<v Speaker 1>murder of correctional officers. I am now writing you to

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<v Speaker 1>look to ask you to look into Jarvis's case and

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<v Speaker 1>right a terrible wrong that has been done to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He has talked to me about one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he would do he's freed from San Quentin. He would

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<v Speaker 1>return to the kinds of neighborhoods in which he grew

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<v Speaker 1>up to teach California's lost children. He guide and mentor

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<v Speaker 1>kids and teach them to value themselves and live authentically,

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<v Speaker 1>with the aim of helping them avoid gangs, drugs, and violence.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for listening, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to send my respect David Chef. I'm left side you

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<v Speaker 1>know this opportunity to have someone like him sit down

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<v Speaker 1>for all these as, to spend this time with me

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<v Speaker 1>answer right about my life. The system taught Jarvis how

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<v Speaker 1>to fight, and while still a boy, defined for him

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<v Speaker 1>what it meant to be a man, fierce, angry and proud.

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<v Speaker 1>There were times when he tried to rise above and

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<v Speaker 1>escape the cradle to prison pipeline, but the gravitational pull

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<v Speaker 1>was too strong to resist. Next week, we'll hear directly

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<v Speaker 1>from Jarvis about the crimes he committed the first put

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<v Speaker 1>in behind bars. In we'll hear what manhood meant to

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<v Speaker 1>him then, and what manhood means to him now, and

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<v Speaker 1>how that transformation came to be. Today's episode was written

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<v Speaker 1>and produced by Donni Fazzari and myself, Corny Cole. Our

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<v Speaker 1>theme song sentenced his compliments of the band Stick Figure

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<v Speaker 1>from their album Set in Stone. Excerpts from Jarvis's memoir

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<v Speaker 1>That Bird Has My Wings, a Harper One publication, were

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<v Speaker 1>read by n Low McCrae, a member of the Truth

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<v Speaker 1>Worker Theater Company. To learn more about the outstanding work

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<v Speaker 1>they do, please visit truth Worker dot com. Stu Sternbach

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<v Speaker 1>has composed the original music. Nate Dufort did the sound design.

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<v Speaker 1>Visit free Jarvis dot org to find out more about

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<v Speaker 1>Jarvis's case and to sign your name to our Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Newsom petition. And if you have questions for Jarvis,

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<v Speaker 1>please leave a message on our hotline at two zero

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<v Speaker 1>one nine zero three thirty five seventy five. That's two

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<v Speaker 1>zero one nine zero three thirty five seventy five. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can also preorder David Chef's biography about Jarvis, the

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<v Speaker 1>Buddhist on Death Row, How One Man Found Light in

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<v Speaker 1>the Darkest Place. Dear Governor Newsom is a production of

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