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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful Friday here in Pittsburgh and well, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we're now about two and a half weeks out from

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Speaker 1: the start of training camp here. Um. Really, if you

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Speaker 1: look at it this way, we are, I believe three

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Speaker 1: weeks from Friday night lights. Wow, that's out about you

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Speaker 1: know that? About two weeks from us being there, you know,

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Speaker 1: every day and doing shows from up there and getting

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Speaker 1: the whole vibe again. And I'm pretty psyched about it,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say. I mean the Mayfield trade from yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it was a nice shot in the arm of something

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Speaker 1: new in the NFL. But we haven't had new Steeler

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Speaker 1: stuff in a while, and I'm pretty excited to see

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Speaker 1: just you know, be in the environment and also react

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Speaker 1: to some things that actually happened on the field. Absolutely. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I assume you've been keeping track

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Speaker 1: of this a little bit, Matt, but Jeremy Fowler, of course, no,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Well, Um has been going over some of the

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Speaker 1: uh he's doing his build up to training camps here,

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Speaker 1: and so he's pulling some league executives about who their

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Speaker 1: top players are at different positions, and um, well we've

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Speaker 1: got he's well, actually, what he's doing is he's pulling

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Speaker 1: up front seven. I think it's done right. Yeah, fifty scouts, executives, coaches,

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So he started off with edge

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Speaker 1: rushers shoes. Let's talk about the edge rushers here, because

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Speaker 1: he's got edge rushers, defensive tackles and off ball linebackers

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Speaker 1: are are in the hopper at this point. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: a real quick Jeremy does great work speaking of camp.

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Speaker 1: He was two dorm rooms away from me, you know,

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Speaker 1: back when he was covering the Steelers, and then he

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Speaker 1: kind of took over the Mike Sando role at ESPN

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Speaker 1: who went to the Athletic it's kind of their national

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Speaker 1: guy that does a lot of these kind of articles.

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Speaker 1: So I'd urge people to check it out. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the honorable mentions on the for the

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Speaker 1: edge rushers, it just shows you how deep the position is.

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Speaker 1: Um guys who also received votes for Josh Allen, Robert Quinn,

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Speaker 1: Rashawn Gary. They didn't even didn't even get honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: Quinn had a great year, Gary's come on strong and Allen.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to make a huge impact as a pass

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Speaker 1: rusher when you're never winning. Yes, you're always behind, which

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Speaker 1: against to me is why the Steelers leading the league

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Speaker 1: in Saxon nine team was such an amazing feat. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I think I added it up. They hit a hundred

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Speaker 1: and ten minutes of a lead that year, not not

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Speaker 1: double digit leads, a lead like they were just all right,

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Speaker 1: it's not a ton better than over the last two

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Speaker 1: years either. I mean they're not playing with fourteen point leads.

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Speaker 1: I can't city, you know. Uh So the the other

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Speaker 1: honorable honorable mentions are DeMarcus Lawrence, Shaq, Barry Jack, Barrett

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Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter, Chase Young, and Trey Henderson. That's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good group. I mean every team in the league would

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Speaker 1: kill for all those guys. Chase Young's the one. I

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Speaker 1: would be shocked if he's not in the top ten

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Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, I mean he's the year. It's year three.

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Speaker 1: It's time for him to kind of turn it on here.

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Speaker 1: Uh hurt a little bit last year, so um, you know, Hendrickson,

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Speaker 1: he was guy. Yeah, so we'll see, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: let's get into the top ten here and you see

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Speaker 1: why this is such a good list. Number ten is

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's His highest ranking was number five, his lowest

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Speaker 1: So he's fallowing a spot to me. If he were

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Speaker 1: a Steeler and Cam Hayward were a saint, all our

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Speaker 1: listeners would love Cam Jordan like they love Cam Hayward,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he is a quiz essential rows stud,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, does it all dirty work, leader,

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Speaker 1: potential Hall of Famer. You know, maybe he's not in

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Speaker 1: the prime of his career anymore, but he's still as

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Speaker 1: good as ever. He's a great player and a great career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steeler if he took Steeler fans off. A couple of

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Speaker 1: He's nipping on his heels already. But comparison to sakes

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Speaker 1: t J. Water seventy two, yeah, yeah, and he is

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Speaker 1: on the back nine of his career. He's still a

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Speaker 1: don't know if he gets to does he get to

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Speaker 1: Number eight twelve this year. I bet not. I'll bet

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Speaker 1: obviously with the Mayfield trade, and spent a little more

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Speaker 1: you know, burning not burns his fault. Uh. Number seven

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Speaker 1: highly effective. Number five is Max Crosby. His highest ranking

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Speaker 1: down the draftboards a little bit. Number four is Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 1: Number three with them would be his brother Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's that good. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that heies necessarily, That's what the what the Steelers

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Speaker 1: same draft class. Yeah. That's actually one thing I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say is his production is not quite as good

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Speaker 1: plumber one and he's a great player. There's no fans

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's when he's one on one, he's unblockable,

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Speaker 1: gets chips, all that stuff. Well, so does what and

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Speaker 1: what gets there? Oh? Yeah, yeah, they these those top

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Speaker 1: four guys get more attention than anybody else on the

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Speaker 1: edge in the league, without question, without question. One note

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Speaker 1: is amazing. The fact that you got like seven guys

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Speaker 1: they also got votes here who didn't get honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: So the honorable mention guys are Dion Jones, den Zelle Perryman,

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Speaker 1: uh A Lou Khan from the Jaguars, jere Mile Wilson, Cormoa,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen got votes on that, uh C J Mosley,

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Speaker 1: there's there's twenty guys on the also receiving honorable mention,

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Speaker 1: we're also receiving votes list. And like we've talked about

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Speaker 1: Queen a lot, he's not an impact player at this point.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Perryman has been on four or five teams. He's

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Speaker 1: really just an old school run stuffer. Has been hurt

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Speaker 1: a lot. Dion Jones is probably gonna get cut in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta because he's making so much money, but because he

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Speaker 1: was good one day. But you know, I mean, a

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Speaker 1: cap casualty probably shouldn't be on this list. So let's

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Speaker 1: roll through these top ten here real quick. Number ten

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Speaker 1: is Jordan Brooks from Seattle. Number nine Lavante David from

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I'm gonna fight him on that, and he

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Speaker 1: should be much higher. Number eight is Bobby Wagner. Well,

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Speaker 1: Seattle thinks Jordan Brooks is better than Wagner's his points, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because the age factor, money. Yeah, and then I went

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Speaker 1: any of this year and money involved. To seven is

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Speaker 1: Tremayne Edmonds, Six is to Mario Davis, five is Roquan Smith.

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Speaker 1: Four is Devin White. I would take any of the

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Speaker 1: guys that just mentioned behind Devon White. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: last year he was last year. Last year was number

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Speaker 1: one on this list, which was wrong too. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not the best linebacker on his team, like the Mario

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Speaker 1: Davis for Steven White is night and day to me. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing. So his highest ranking was

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Speaker 1: number one, is lowest was out of the top ten.

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Speaker 1: That just kind of gives you the idea and idea

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Speaker 1: of number three is Fred Warner. His highest ranking was

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Speaker 1: number one, lowest ranking out of the top ten. He

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Speaker 1: might might be one for me. Number two coverage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: number two is Michael Parsons. His highest ranking number one,

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Speaker 1: lowest number lowis was number ten, and that leaves at

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Speaker 1: number one Day Leonard. Uh somebody his highest ranking was one,

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Speaker 1: His lowest ranking six six. Somebody put Darius Leonard six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. I mean, somebody fred Warner the top

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Speaker 1: ten too, which is nuts. Yeah, I mean, maybe there's

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Speaker 1: not a great grasp of this position. To your point

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Speaker 1: that not a lot of household names of the same

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Speaker 1: names every year. Um, I know we're done here, but

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Speaker 1: my last note is if we were to draft this group,

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Speaker 1: my first pick overall would be Parsons, but he's also

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Speaker 1: plus something else. You know that he's he does more

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Speaker 1: than these other guys. Yeah, I mean Leonard is still

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Speaker 1: twenty six though, so there's a lot a lot there.

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Speaker 1: Um Warner's tent and Warner or neconnected me to some

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Speaker 1: guys only linebackers. Yeah, yeah, there's some guys there that

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Speaker 1: are still young at that position. We're gonna take a break.

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