WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: 'Grits & Eggs' Podcast Talk Free Thought, Avoiding The Noise, Parenting + More 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:07.160 Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club Morning. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.120 Everybody's the j en Vy Jesse, Larry Charlamagne the Guy. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.040 We are the Breakfast Club. We have a special guest 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.640 in the building. Yes, indeed, from the Gritted Eggs Podcast, 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:16.759 Deontay Kyle. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.320 Welcome, Goddamn cat, Big Ice. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.880 How you're feeling good? We're good, man. It's cold, bro, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:33.000 excited to be here, tripping Bro, Like you're from Atlanta. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.000 I'm from South Carolina too, so you never really get 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:35.640 used to this cold. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:36.360 Yeah. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.960 Yeah, It's like I had to jump out of ober, Like, Bro, 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.320 I might as well just walk jackets, Big jack. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:44.760 Matter. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.840 What's the origin story of the Grits and Eggs podcast? 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.879 I started doing TikTok from the truck just how to 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.320 you know. I'm like, you consume a lot of media 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.480 when you're on the road. I was like, man, I 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.040 feel like I could throw my head in here. I 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.080 feel like I got something to say. Yeah, charg drive Yeah, 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.880 for the last five years, I actually just stopped driving 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.440 trucks in April, you know what I'm saying. So once 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.240 the ticks has started blowing up, I just kind of 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.680 like foresight was just like I gotta find something else 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.680 to do. I can't just live on this one app 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.039 and I want to kind of get long form with it. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.399 So YouTube natural place to go in the podcast, just 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.760 in like the place where people speak freely. So it's like, well, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.960 I mean, I figure out how much it cost to 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.880 set this thing up. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.839 I just started in the back of the truck. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.360 And then once it started gain tractioning me, I called 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.120 him and I was like, Yo, come work this camera 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.600 for me. Because we had a little Canning camera go 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.840 out like every twelve minutes, and I was like, man, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.760 just come hit the button every twelve minutes. We had 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.200 to continue to shot little Sony four k joint and 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:45.560 I was like, yeah, it just run that and then 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.680 just the chemistry is just naturally started picking up. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.840 I'm not even at the twelve minutes because anybody that 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.160 taped the podcast from the beginning knows that the camera 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.560 would shut off automatically twelve years. Yeah, so you either 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.400 have to reset it every twelve minutes or get two 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.200 views so that way you could go back and forth. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:01:59.840 That's what it was doing. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.240 The continual shot was grainy, but it was like a 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.640 decam and it was like it'll keep going so in 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.280 between times because sometimes he'll be like you forget, I 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.760 forget because we talked as friends, he ain't really seeing 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.880 me do my thing, so he like kind of getting 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.919 lost in the message. And then I'm like, Yo, get 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.200 the camera, bro, get on the camera. The red light 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.320 not on, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, it 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.040 was it was just a continuation of like smaller social 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.760 media clips into long fun content, like you can only 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.400 say so much in three minutes, and you can only 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.000 hold people attention so much on TikTok. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.079 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:34.239 So I was just like, all right, let's get a 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.280 long form and get the audience to actually want to 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.160 dive into these topics. You've been doing it for five years? No, no, no, 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.920 I've been doing I started a podcast two years ago 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.960 in March, so, uh two years visual in January. Oh 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.880 you ahead of schedule then, because you know, there was 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.679 always a statistics show that it usually takes a podcast 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.480 sixty seven years to really. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.960 Really really take off. And for you to already be 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.480 cutting through after only a couple of years, that's damn good. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.919 Yeah, I don't have to prove a concept from social 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.120 media though, So, like I didn't come into it like 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.360 without an audience I had. I was like one hundred 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.400 thousand strong on TikTok when I started, and so I 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.440 was like, all right, well kind of integrate these folks. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.400 And I know, like integration is like ten percent. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.679 I was like, you get a thousand people to watch 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.000 the yeah, I'm good. When we was getting a thousand. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.600 Yeah, I'm glad you got that mentality because people be 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.520 acting like a thousand people not a lot of people. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.440 Other people be outside right now. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.200 The real We did our first show one hundred and 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.640 fifty people looking at you on the face. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.280 It's crazy, that's right. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.800 I was like, I need a minute, broball, like this 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.240 is insane, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:38.920 But we done got used to that part too. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.960 Because yeas you mess up, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.800 It's the same with comedy. It's like transitioning from being uh, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.000 this this person will make skits and all that, and 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.320 then you go on stage and now they're looking at 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.360 you and you can't delete or you can't. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.040 Edited, Yeah, they got it, and then they looking at 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.440 you like this entertain us, do it do the thing 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:56.680 you do? 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.000 How was the first live show. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:00.760 It was cool man. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.000 Yeah, that's it was so much love too, because we 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.280 got invited out there and so like, you know, us 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.640 being like a podcast that's centered around like a black 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.640 experience and the community issues for us to go to 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.760 like one of the blackst cities in America. They invited 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.320 us and a lot of people. I'm going to Mississippi 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.640 to do nothing. So it was our first show, so 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.719 much love in it. But we done kind of got seasoned. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:21.919 We do a couple of shows in Atlanta. We got 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.160 to show tomorrow out here. Yeah. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.440 A difficult thing to talk about when you talk about 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:28.720 the podcast, what's one thing you'd be like, Ah, we 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.240 got to talk about that as a relationship. As a 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.440 politics is itationships. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.320 Yeah, don't do that. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.360 I start away from anything that's like low hanging fruit, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.680 things that people just do just to get clicks. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.640 I don't do raise bait. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.440 Either you're gonna engage with this because you're genuinely interested, 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.000 or you're gonna keep it pushing, you know what I mean. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.920 I'm not I'm not trying to come with a hook. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.760 I'm not doing none of that because relationships, that's two people. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.000 I don't know what I don't know how you was raised. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:51.880 I don't know what type of love you grew up around, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.360 So I can't tell you how to love or how 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.120 to receive love, or how to operate with your partner. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.120 Like that's that's just gonna have people disagreeing, and that's 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.240 good for engagement, but ain't long lasting. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.919 Say, how do you choose in the community? 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.240 What Because there's always a lot going on, what you 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.479 spend your time focusing on what's low hanging fruit and 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:09.800 what's not. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.360 I just don't react, you know what I mean? Like, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.680 like the thing about TikTok. What I learned early on 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.680 how to separate myself is like, don't just make a 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.279 video soon as something come out, because you're gonna miss 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.240 the mark. You don't got all the information. You don't 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.080 know if the headline was false, you don't know if 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.200 it's AI. You don't know nothing. So I just sit 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.560 back and kind of let like get my own perspective 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.599 on it, and like kind of research things too. People 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.760 just be talking. People just say stuff, and then you 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.960 come out and you ain't researched. I started to see 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.960 this happen with lgs a lot now Instagram, Like they 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.400 reposting stuff and like reacting and stuff and it's like 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:55.200 that's AI, it's not it's notorious for that, Pete Rock, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:56.000 what you. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.800 Be doing a stuff like oh my god, this is real. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.560 Pep right, this. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.480 I got one time with what was the brother name, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.760 Kyle Lacy. It was they said it was his mom 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.320 and I got it from an eternity being Crump's page. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.720 So it was his mom talking about what happened to 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.240 him and I just reposted it and it was a Yeah, it. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.320 Get a little wicked because it's like you don't want 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.080 to because then it's like it's it's not really a 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.359 credibility thing. Anybody can get got by it, especially with 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.840 it being some new But I think with just reacting 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.080 to things off your like emotional standpoint, you can't take 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:30.520 your back like once you post it in you know 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.920 the internet thing like if you you take a puss down, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:33.880 they're like scared. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.400 But you gotta admit when you're wrong. Yeah, that's all 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.839 you gotta do too, because your audience will appreciate that. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:40.520 Yeah. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.200 I think the human aspect of it is just being 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.400 able to just say you're wrong. Don't double down on 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.840 your life, don't double down when you when you mess 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.320 up down here and be like, yeah, I missed, mister Mark, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:50.920 I'm human. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.760 Now that people are coming to y'all as like a 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:58.120 source of education, how has that changed or has it 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.280 changed your approach and how you present information? Is there 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.240 like a pressure because people like my little brother loves 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.120 your content and he swears by everything you said? Yeah, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.320 I like literally does that add pressure into how you 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.120 put out your content on what you choose to up? 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.600 Not really, I don't. I never approached it as like 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.440 an authority. These things I was talking about anyway, These 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.040 are things conversations I was having with lot of my friends, family, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.120 the homies, like any anytime I used to rap, like 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.120 in between songs and the engine er doing this thing. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.760 I was always talking about like owning our own stuff 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.800 or like you know, just like organically creating a following 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.920 different ways and strategic and then it was naturally leading 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.320 to things that's going on in the community. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:38.880 I had these opinions already. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.480 So a lot of my stuff is things that I researched, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.640 lectures that I watch and kind of digest it for myself, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.200 but also like life experience. I don't talk about nothing, no, no, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.840 So I don't got that pressure to feel like I'm 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.400 an authority on something or I gotta say something like 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.200 it's ten other creators out here that said something about that. 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:56.600 Go watch the video. They might have hit it. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.280 I'm not gonna regurgitate information just because you want to 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:00.640 hear it from me, you know what I mean. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.800 My brother wants to start this like trucking company, and 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.120 he has a whole idea. And when he told me 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.080 about it, he sent me the video that you did 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.080 on ownership. It was like, you could work all these 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.000 businesses and try to become a millionaire, but what they 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.880 give to you they could take from you, right, And 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.960 that was his way of telling me, like I need 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:17.960 to help him figure that out. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.720 But yeah, yeah, so he. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.000 Leans into y'all lot, Yeah for sure, shout out your 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:22.360 little brother. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.920 His name is don Don't on the truck. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.560 Why the name grits and eggs, Like, what does that 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.080 represent about the show's voice of the identity I was. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.719 I was kind of thinking about when I came to 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.760 my own, like when I started thinking for myself, making 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.439 my own decisions and started real young. I was like eleven, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.559 when my folks had split up. My mom actually moved 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.280 to Atlanta, and we started in women to North Carolina 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.600 with our dad, and Passa's like, look, bro y'all, Mama 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.000 grond I got to pick up another job. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.760 Grits, gris and eggs. That's to go to all the time. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.160 It's always gonna be on there. Learn how to. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.880 Cook that you can take care of yourself twice a week. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.719 Come throw us pot of spaghetti in there. You know 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:03.160 what I'm saying. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:03.560 You good? 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.320 So it was just like this how I kind of 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.400 game my autonomy. I was taking care of my siblings. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.760 I ain't have to do nothing if I don't want to. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:09.920 If I didn't want to go to school, I ain't 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.000 have to, you know what I mean. But I also 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.080 started making like responsible decisions for myself too, and too 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.040 like all the hemies at school when'm a skied school. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:17.560 And be a humb by myself. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.679 I ain't trying to do that, but it was just 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.160 like it reminded me of a time when I was 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.959 like really starting to think for myself. And then it 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.840 just like it's southern, you know, it's black, and it's 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.120 it sounds good, you. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.360 Know what I'm saying. So it hit all my marks 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:32.640 and I was like, yeah, we're going a roun with it. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:37.480 Ain't no better breakfast bro a biscuits every day you live. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:38.760 You're full too. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:39.960 Yeah. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.960 Look, right, so you went from social media to now 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.120 doing your live shows? Right, what are some of the 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.439 challenges that you would face when you when you made 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.840 that transition, Like, because you mentioned earlier it's one in 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.480 the seats is like, now what do I do? Like, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:57.559 what are some of the other challenges? 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:58.760 What did you realize? 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.199 I think it's just figuring how to structure the show. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.959 It's not the same when we me and himuld go 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.800 off on a tangent, like we're just banter sometimes, and 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.400 it's like you can't really do that in a live 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.000 show because you kind of got to involve the crowd. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.960 You want them to be involved. So also, you know, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.040 rushing through your talking points my first show, like I 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.679 had all these talking points and I done went through 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.640 them because I'm nervous for real. So I'm just like, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.679 I'm not pacing, I'm not taking my time, I'm not pausing, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.360 I'm not doing none of that that I would do 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.480 on the show. And then I was like, damn man, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.360 it's like we're only fifteen minutes and they don't know, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.160 And I'm like that to slow bro, and I was like, big, 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:39.960 what's up baby? 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.760 Talk to the people. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.719 But I was like with me, but when you start interacting, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.000 I like the thing that I do at the live 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.960 shows now is like, you know, normally you wait till 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.320 the end, you do a Q and A and they 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.679 ask you questions. But I got these topics that surround 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.920 already my talking points were, but I like to pose 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.199 a question to the crowd because like, I feel like I. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:04.800 Could trust my crowd. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.240 They intelligent people, and every time we post questions of 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.160 the crowd and they come up, it's like so much 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.280 substance that they bring because a lot of these people 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:15.160 be like professionals, Like we got professors that come, doctors, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.160 all people from all talk about so life and shit 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.400 like that. So it's like, damn, I can really trust 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.760 my crowd and I can feed off them too, and 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.600 that actually like build out the interaction. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.240 But they really feel like they're part of the show too. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.800 When you're doing cultural commentary, right, and both of y'all 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.280 have so much different perspective and personal experience in preparation 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.000 how long because I feel like y'all conversations between each other. Well, 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.360 probably go for hours in preparation. How do you cut 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.600 it and be like this is what we gonna take 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.800 from it there because your clips online get straight. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.240 To what you need to get to. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.600 I mean, we just focus on the main the main thing. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.320 We keep the main thing, the main thing, because like 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.000 I said, like he said, we can bant it for hours. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.040 We can go for hours and hours about different different 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.880 topics and subjects, but basically we just you know, he 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.000 focus on he gets his key points, he writes them 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.080 down on the talk on the whiteboard, and then we'll 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.840 go over and then we just go from the show 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:06.160 from there. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.920 Brother, don't even know what we're gonna talk about. I 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.720 really don't. He just put it's like the whiteboard full. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.599 And it's like, but I know him, you know what 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.880 I'm saying, and we know each other for so long, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.880 it's like it's natural. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.439 You know what I'm saying. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.120 It's natural, Like he gonna fall in. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.320 He got a different perspective on a lot of things too, 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.559 but it's the ideology is a line, so you know 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.360 what I'm saying, Like like when we kick the mathematics 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:29.880 to him, like because you know he got the five 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.760 percent of knowledge and all of it. It's just kind 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.400 of like showcasing all these different black thoughts, you know 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.800 what I mean. But as far as picking the topic, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.720 it's like, for real, I might pull a topic from 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.000 this conversation, like I like to pull it from real 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.720 life situations and you know, just things that I actually 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.480 care about, Like if we see issues in our community, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.920 it ain't really like it ain't. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.760 Progressive to like beerate each other. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.440 And a lot of people think that that's the way 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.760 to get a point across, Like I gotta brate you, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.720 I gotta talk down like, hey, bro yall, mama talk 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.360 to you. That don't time to me like that, you 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:02.839 know what I'm saying. A lot of people bringing stuff 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.280 from their household when you bring up to the community. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.520 If you start empathy, I love, it's like people don't 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.200 receive that, you know, the same way you receive information. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.920 So if it feels like it's coming from somebody who cares, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.280 then I think the messican can get across. But I 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.720 think getting right to it, like especially on social media. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.480 I don't need no hood. This is what we're talking about, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.000 and then we gonna go through. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.760 So Cat, you don't even be knowing what he gonna 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.200 talk about it when you come up to the house. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.640 He got on the Satan mask with a shoot on. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.800 First of all, when I came to the house, that 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.760 they okay. He came to the door regular, He said, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.560 I got surprised for you. I said, all right, cool. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.040 He goes upstairs. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.520 You ready, I said, YOA come on, nigga, come downstairs 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.880 in a Trump suit with a Saint mat I said, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:41.920 I know what kind of episode is going to be. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.880 I already know what the sponsors to go be. You 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.680 know what I'm saying. But that's the type of ship 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:47.800 we do though. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.679 If somebody say something online, like they try to counsel 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.679 them every two weeks over something that he say, but 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.439 the people ain't listening, trying. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.400 To cancel you and they listen to react, no listen 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:57.760 to the message. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.280 I think it's because a lot of people are gonna 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.080 say free but free thought with black people in black 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.240 community sometimes there's a big fight of what people think 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.720 free thought is and what they don't think it is. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.120 And with you, you kind of just say things that 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.960 people are really not going to say. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.720 Well, I mean systemically free thought come with big punishment, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:18.880 and so I think a lot of it is like 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.920 maybe not cancel them, Like maybe the folk be scared 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.000 for me, because I'd be saying for like protecting them, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.080 like protect me from who? 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:25.280 Bro. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.400 I ain't tripping on that. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.480 Like if we're not gonna say, I mean, what's the 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.200 point We're gonna play the game like a cow? Then 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.600 what's the point I don't need no podcast If I'm 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.440 playing a game like a cow, I could just go 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.440 take a little money that they try to get to 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.640 me ere two weeks or whatever the case may be. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.480 But we got like stract stances on what we not advertising, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.520 where we not going with it, what we're not gonna 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.240 talk about. And you know, I think the bigger thing 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.360 is just like it's it worked to get us here. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.600 What I'm changing it up for, you know what I mean, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.200 I ain't really I ain't scared to talk about now 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.360 as far as like, you know, whatever the topic may 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.640 be that oh this will get you shot up band whatever. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.840 I don't own the apps, bro, I own it. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.360 So it's like, Okay, if I see people constantly getting 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.240 shadow Man for stuff, maybe we say this for a 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.320 patron you know, you just got another game. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.320 You're playing in the fields you're in like on none 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:12.000 of these apps. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.600 So if I see them punishing folks, let's go somewhere 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.800 where we already got our subscription for the service. We 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.720 know our faults over here, we got a discord over here, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.240 let's talk about it or not everything. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.720 I gotta be for the public all the time. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.360 But you know, what you just talked about is making 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.040 a choice. And I think that there's a misconception that 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.920 when you work for a corporate entity, you can't talk 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.440 about the things you want to talk about, right, you can't. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 You just make the choice. You make choice, the choice, yeah, 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:36.800 and deal with what comes with that. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.440 Yeah, you know the rule. You know what I'm saying, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.320 But you sign the rules. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.440 Don't come from the rules. The backlash ain't gonna come. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.040 From corporate No, you know what I mean, It's not 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.320 come from the consumer. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.760 The consumer or the person you actually talked about. If 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.240 I go on Fox News and I talk about Donald Trump, 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:51.720 which I have, and that Donald Trump calls me a 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.920 racist swede bag with a low IQ, which he has, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.800 that just comes with me, you know, making the choice. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.040 Yes, I mean, ain't it ain't gonna change, and the 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.080 way I approach it. I think the thing about getting 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:07.600 canceled is like, I mean, you gotta art You gotta 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.040 articulate the disagreement. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:09.160 Bro. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.200 You can't just say I don't like that you cancel. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:13.360 You don't control my life. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.160 I don't. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.120 Yeah, at one time it was advertising pulling immediately, but 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.560 I always hated it because we should be able to 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.360 have a conversation even if we don't agree with each other. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.600 Why can't we have a conversation. Well, we don't understand 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.600 push the limit. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.920 For sure, because we also don't understand like what freedom 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.920 and speech is. You know what I'm saying, Like, it 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.520 ain't the freedom of consequences. I get, but we self censoring. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.040 Now we're gonna censor ourselves. So then when they take 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.120 your freedom of speech, it's like, well, y'all slow walked 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.360 us into it because you like that mob mentality to 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.120 make you feel like you got power online. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:42.920 But the thing is, in three days you don't even 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.400 care no more. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.160 And this this is messed up person, hard career regardless, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.800 like you know, the the other side of this is 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:50.880 like Russell Lumball had like. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.360 A very lucative career. I ain't agree with. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.200 Most And then he said, but I can understand the 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.720 power of that community. They did agree with him, allowing 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.479 him to do it for so long, and we were. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.680 Right here, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.200 We did a joint show with Russ before and went 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.880 back and forth and everything agreed to disagree and all 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:11.200 of that. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.480 I think, I think you need a diversity of thought. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.920 If you only engaging with stuff that you agree with 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.280 all the time, your scope of intelligence is gonna shrinks 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.400 because you're an echo chamber. So I always dive into 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.200 like like a lot of people were saying they ain't 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.359 no who like Charlie, Kurt web for he died and whatnot, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.439 Like I did. I pay attention to folks like that 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.159 because I need to know what these folks think about this. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.760 And that doesn't find the community too, but also too, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.120 It's like why they kicking it like that? If you're 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.080 not basing no facts, I really don't want to hear it, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.080 but it's being said, so we need to know it's 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.440 being said about it, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.240 Has there been anybody that has reached out to y'all 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.440 to come onto the podcast to debate some of y'all 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:47.119 thought that. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.000 You're like, nah, this is harmful. We don't want to 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:49.640 have this conversation. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.840 No, never, because I ain't debating ugh, but debates on 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.719 change minds. It's just we just having a pisson context. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.280 I'm cool on that. You know what I'm saying. You 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.880 can stitch a video and do your thing. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.080 I ain't baiting they said you debate your Piers everybody 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.240 else you teach you did. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.280 Yeah. A lot of people come on the show man like, no, 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.680 we ain't doing that. Really ain't doing that, Noah. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.960 I mean if on the line with it, if you 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.480 don't like it, like if you don't want to funk 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:17.800 with it, if he don't rock with it, it's like, 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.159 we ain't doing that, you know. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:19.520 Yeah. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.359 He also said, like people have been reaching out to 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.560 us for a bag for one. We don't do no 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.320 gambling if you won't do no DIC pills. So we 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:27.399 always talk to. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.160 No mail enhancement. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.399 You know what I'm saying, it's the reasons reason for this, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.159 you know what I mean, that'd be offering to you know, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.520 but I'd be like, and if they answers again, everybody 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.679 getting fired because I already said no. So it's like 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.520 the thing is you know, big care Bro, Like this 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.760 is my dog, Bro, I'd be cool, like I don't 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.000 really we we we wanted a few shows where people 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.640 would prefer for us to have the solid episode anytime 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.159 we drop I guess on Wednesdays, Like Wednesdays is our 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.480 Sollo slot. We didn't have our guests for the longest. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.440 He ain't even our camera, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.399 So I'm for a facing. We don't drop Wednesday episodes. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.800 They like, yeah, that's cute now, but you can give 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.920 that another thing. Wednesday is our day. We're doing the 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.359 knowledge on Wednesdays. So I mean, now we got to 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.760 guess episodes. But if you're not hip to who I am, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.800 I'm not hip to what you do. I'm not like 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.280 a marketing company, bro the promo. Are we here to 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:27.600 have a conversation. I don't know who you is. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.600 I think it's good. I think it's good because sometimes 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.440 we get stuck in our own chamber, right, but we 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.840 don't know what's going on or see what's going on. 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.159 Like her brother listens to you all the time. He 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.840 listens from a different perspective, for sure, So I watch 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:41.520 you from a different perspective. I watch you from the 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.399 clips because I don't have time to watch full episode. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.919 But it's sometimes it's putting on people that might not 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.240 know who you are, but be like, damn, that's a 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.879 small brother. Those are small brothers. Let me let me 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:49.800 check them out, you know what I mean? 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.880 Yeah, So I say this, I took my strategy when 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.440 it comes to guests. It's kind of like the Joe 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.240 Rugan strategy. I like to take people that is in 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.439 feels like we just interview a black extra physicists, uh 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.560 black like psychologists. We interviewed quite a few, like therapists. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.640 I'm pulling from different schools of thought. But it ain't 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.280 really necessarily about your following or nothing like that. It's 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.520 like if I like what you're talking about, or if 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.600 it's out of my range of capability, Like I don't 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.000 know nothing about astrophysics, for really, he do, and somebody 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.879 listening might be interested in this, or their child might 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:24.960 watch it, like people watch our show with their children. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.360 So it's like this might send him on the career path. 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.639 But I'm also like, I got like some little nerdy 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.280 questions to ask you, bro, and you you the professional, 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.240 You the expert. I'm gonna gonna ask you, But I 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.000 think we need to see like a spectrum of black thought, 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.480 and it ain't always got to be black radical thoughts. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.680 Sometimes it's just pure education. Sometimes it's just these are feels. 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.159 We don't know what people in We gonna interview a 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.720 marine biologists top of twenty twenty six. It's like, I 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.200 just want to see, like see blackness in this full thing, 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:52.400 this monolift that we got. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:53.560 But that's dope, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.720 It's always been all model here, same thing. Bring everybody, 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.760 anybody with an area of expertise, you know, especially black people. 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.119 You know, let's why not why not give them a platform. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:07.840 That kid's mind, you know what, I want to try that. 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:09.480 Let me look look that up in school, Let me 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.400 do my homework on that, which sometimes we don't get. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.639 Yeah, y'all have y'all lover caught y'allself like in the moment, 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:19.000 like shout of here's wildent y'all. Don't y'all like like 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:23.440 where you like kind of freezer, like what's like because 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.879 you can see where people I don't know about you you. 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:32.239 Take it up with them. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.400 But like I think sometimes I know when people coming 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.640 because they want to like, oh, this would be good, 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.239 like I can get some clips or whatever. It's like, 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:42.639 I don't went down your pathg ain't talk about for 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.560 real cool on that. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.960 plenty of folks you can talk to and the following 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.520 really doesn't matter. It's like, is this gonna be like 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.680 not benefit me, but like benefit the audience. It's gonna 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.280 add anything. Is we're gonna be able to have a 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.040 real conversation or you just want to come up here 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.160 so you can disagree with me in front of everybody. 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.399 Cool, But you know what, y'all learning of very a 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:03.600 very good part of your skill set because when women 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.080 used to always tell me, you're only gonna interview somebody 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.719 like jay Z wants right, though you might interview Rihanna 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:13.360 Beyonce wants right. They come to listen to you every 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.439 single day. So it's the same thing with y'all. With 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.159 the podcast, right, people want to hear from y'all to 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.359 every single episode that I know I can stand on right. 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:22.399 Everything else is gravy. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.040 Yeah, it feels good to have established it ourselves without 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.120 like we were not like formerly media trained or even 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.680 in entertainment, like we kind of grassroots came up. TikTok 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.119 is a great platform for like the everyday person to 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.080 kind of voice their opinion and perspective. And you know, 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:40.960 I'm just grateful that people right with me in the 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.360 way they do, like, because I don't think that everything 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.600 got to be a situation where people are placed in 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.280 front of you by corporations or entities or you know, 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.399 I've been grinding ten years and I just pivoted to this. 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.840 It's like, bro, I'm in truck, I just like you. 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:56.720 You know what I'm saying. Every day, I'm working sixty 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.600 hours a week. I'm taking care of my babies. You 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.560 know what I'm saying, but also out of mind and 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:02.679 perspective on things too that I feel like it's valuable 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:03.400 to the conversation. 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.119 And those my favorite podcast stories, and I know that, 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.159 you know, there's a lot of rappers and athletes and 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.080 celebrities that get into the podcast get my favorite podcast 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.560 stories of people like yourselves and to read and Mandy 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.480 and Wheezy, people who weren't weren't in media at all, 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.480 like doing corporate jobs, driving trucks and decided know it, 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.119 I got something to say, I want to tell my 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.040 unique story and then people gravitate towards it. To me, 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:26.920 that's what the essence of podcasting is about. 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.040 Yeah, you got a bit on yourself for sure. Yeah 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:29.400 for sure. 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:33.040 So earlier you said you don't talk about surface level ship, 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.640 you know, none of the little hanging through. But what's 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.440 a cultural moment right that it's taking place? And you've 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.000 seen online that you felt like absolutely needed a Grits 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.240 and Eggs tape. 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:43.400 I don't know. 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:47.159 I don't know, Like we talk about everything. The pumpy 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:52.200 shit was good, I said, yeah, you know, I think 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.680 the most recent thing we kind of like fuzz being 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.639 it's like the whole like Rory in my situation of 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.160 the tweets, but it's just like I just be thinking, 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.719 like that fun and like, hey bro pack it up, 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.680 you know what I'm saying, Like it's cool because we're 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.680 kind of in this podcast space, like on some fun 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.040 friendly stuff like yeah, get up out of the way, 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.199 like we're making way for ourselves. But like cultural moments, 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.680 they come and go. If it's too much conversation about 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.760 it on social media, I don't really feel like I 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.600 could add that to it. If I don't feel like 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.480 I could add that if I've got a fresh perspective. Man, 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.359 I'm cool on it because it's like, like I said, 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.520 we just regard to having the same thing. If people 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.280 ask me what my opinion on stuff, and I know 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.000 a creator that has like a point in opinion, I'll 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.440 be like, go watch them got you know what I'm saying. 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.159 But I feel like, you know what makes you all 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.600 successful with y'all got a mission baked in to y'all podcast. 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.159 At least that's what I feel when for sure, So 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.600 what's the what do you think the intentional through line 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:50.399 behind your conversations is? 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.640 I think you click something yeah, sure. 0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:58.159 And you AI D I T. 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:13.840 We'll stop talking for we got got just like that. 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.920 But what do you think the intentional through line behind 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:16.760 your conversation? 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.000 I think, for one, I know I can't change nobody's mind, 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.640 but I can change that perspective, right. I think that 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.399 the big overarching thing is like liberation, you know what 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.399 I'm saying, And liberation outside of the system, liberation outside 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.800 of the way you're thinking, liberation for black people, like 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.240 and then it's going to expand of course to like 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.879 all people of color, all poor people, all people that 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.560 face oppression. But I think for more than anything, it's 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.760 like we cifle through, We cycle through a lot of 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:48.160 talking points, saying the same ship over and over, and 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.400 it's never really a situation where I'm trying to help 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.679 somebody grow. It's just like a lot of people are 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.639 just happy, like, yeah, I don't think like that, but 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.840 you do. So I'm smart, you're dumb, I'm rich, you're poor, 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.960 all these different things. Like I got to like tip 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.320 the scales like that, Really we can leave opportunity for 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.120 everybody to grow. And a lot of people don't want 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.479 to see other girls for whatever reason. But for me, 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.960 it's like I come from blue collar work, Bro. I 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.879 know how many brilliant people is out here in the 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.199 world that don't even have social media. And then I 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.640 also know there's a lot of brilliant people that can 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.360 add the conversations that can help us grow and help 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.120 us see things in a different way because a lot 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.480 of times, like I said, we live in these echo 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.640 chambers where we kind of constantly get in the same 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.520 feedback loops, and a lot of the issues be with 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.840 self esteem, bro, And like we just it's very easy 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.760 to tear each other down, And I think that's the 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.000 route that people take, Like it was, like, you know, 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.520 it takes a lot more to care about somebody than 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.040 it do to like, you know, just like cut them 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.159 deep and just be like that's the easy thing to do. 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.080 A lot of us grow up in households where that's 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.920 the play, like cut you down real quick. 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:51.360 But I don't. 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.720 I want us to actually like be willing to express 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.440 a love and care for one another publicly. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.560 You know what I'm saying, how do you avoid that noise? 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.480 Because you know, with a lot of time with podcasts, 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.480 anybody in the public, right you do it for the 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.680 right reason mostiple anger say everybody does, but most people 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.080 want to do it for the right reason. They want 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.400 to help and they realize the people that they're trying 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.000 to help somehow some way. Terms right, it could be 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.639 another podcast, there could be another personality. How do you 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.359 deal with that where you feel like it's it's not 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.240 a mental thing and you keep going through it and 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.440 don't let that ball do you affect you and that 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:20.120 of your day? 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.720 I think that first it's just being honest about it 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.640 that they do about it, you know what I'm saying, 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.600 Like it don't feel good to be taught about negatively, 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.320 especially by multitude of people, and to feel misunderstood in 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.479 the midst of that too. So I can acknowledge the feeling, 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.040 but I don't got to defend it. I can back 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.040 up a little bit, like maybe I was wrong, maybe 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.000 I did say something that miss the mark. But at 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.520 the same time too, it's like, sometimes you gotta put 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.600 that phone down, bro, like in a real way, just 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.800 put the phone down, like gone about your day, and like, 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.919 you know, I got kids. I like can't spend all 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.840 day arguing with fouls online. My baby hunger and like that. 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.760 It can pin a bun of jail time. So hold on, 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.800 let me respond to this real quick. Got me messed up, like. 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.760 I'm not now you got the kid? 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:06.600 Yeah? 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:07.359 Up? 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:08.960 Like bro, bro, this man tripping bro. 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:10.520 And it's like, you know, you got to live your 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.919 real life too, I think I don't you know. 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:14.720 Social media. 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.080 Social media can be affirming, it could be very validating 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.320 at times, and I also tear you down. So it's 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.040 like just find the balance and all of it. It's 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:24.760 like I take the good just like I take the bad, 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.840 you know what I mean, Because if you get caught 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.280 up in it. It'll people people. 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.240 Having mental breaks, Like people be breaking mentally because my dad, my. 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:34.840 Daddy, you said, you never as good as they say 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.159 you are, You never as bad as they say exactly. 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.320 And one of my radio mentors and Cadillac Jack, he 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.320 would say, the rule of ten, three people go agree 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.120 with you when you say something. Three people will not 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:46.720 go agree with you. Four people don't even know what 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:47.280 the fun going on. 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:53.200 Yeah, yeah, I keeping you speak about like how people 0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.280 get certain things from growing up in their household. 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.280 Do you ever talk about yours? Do you ever talk 0:28:58.280 --> 0:28:58.800 about yours? 0:28:58.880 --> 0:28:59.080 Yeah? 0:28:59.080 --> 0:28:59.960 For sure. 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.720 The birth for the Grisons is out of that. Like 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.680 when my focks split up that joint, it changed a 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.520 lot in me because when you in the household with 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.600 people that like really can't stand each other, but they trying. 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:14.600 To keep it together for the kids. 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.240 It's like it informed me so much, like, oh, they 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.560 don't think we're paying attention for real, or they don't 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.800 think we could feel like it's tension in here. So 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.240 I think a lot of that stuff in front of you, 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.600 making hyper vision it. So then it gets to a 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.120 position where like when I'm with my parts, I could 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.600 do whatever I want because he and her, and then 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.840 when I go with my mama, she's super strict. Now 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:36.720 I gotta find a balance and I'm bucking too, like, 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.880 but you got me missed up. Like I literally just 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.520 came from a situation where I'm out til one in 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.680 the morning because my parts, like he get off work, 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.840 he do bouncing that nightclub. 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.920 He get home like two o'clock, but he got the car. 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.320 The car so loud, like squeaking. 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.240 Wise, as long as I'm within eyeshot of the crib, 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.200 I can hear him coming like from the front of 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.000 the neighborhood, like all right, y'all boy, y'all here the man. 0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:58.680 We're in the house. And then I'm in the house 0:29:58.760 --> 0:29:59.920 like that, Yeah, what's up? That happened? 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.400 But I think, you know, I think the truth is 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.520 is like as vulnerable as I am about my situation 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:12.400 and everything, the thing that I realized is like, once 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.800 you push through like the kind of anxiety about exposing 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.560 yourself just being honest about your experience, you realize how 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.320 many people that went through it too, So you're really 0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.560 actually helping people because they don't feel alone. So you know, 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.160 we don't talk about several things. I think the biggest thing, 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.200 the hardest thing for me to kind of come forward 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.400 was like you know, dealing with sexual saldy as a 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.240 child and stuff like that. But so many men came 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.680 out like, bro, if you hear stories about how men 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.160 lose Dave Virginity's crazy. 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:37.800 I was eight. 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.600 Yeah, me too, eight years old, and it's like it's 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.120 a babysitter. You can't even say nothing. But it's like 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.160 if we if we start looking tour. 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:53.239 They like to laugh about I'm not laugh when it's 0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.760 a guy. 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.040 Deonce, we do not laugh. 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.560 He just said that his abuser head a Jerry Kill 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:00.960 and I didn't like the. 0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:06.760 Smell that's mine. I made her quick that man, you. 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.320 Know what I'm saying, because he like so if she 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.800 had a swoop on the side, made her quick. 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:12.800 Where the joke come in? 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.800 We don't laugh, no, man. When I was young, that's 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.800 what I told myself. I made her stop doing it 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.240 because I didn't like to smell her Jerry. 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:23.760 Yeah. 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.200 Reality is I made her stop doing it because it 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.520 needs Yeah, you're. 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:33.320 Being, yeah, but having the conversations like what we're gonna 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.920 lose by being I think a lot of times it's 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.520 like I just faking the funt like you everybody Okay, 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.320 you know you ever hear folks say that like I 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:46.280 got whooped and I turned off. You didn't actually didn't 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:52.200 this morning. You know what I'm saying, I'm scared eating? 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.080 Why did you streaming? 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.080 But but they all right, is I don't talk about it. 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.120 So if I don't talk about it, I finally acknowledge it, 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:02.160 then it can't be bothered. 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.080 And you know, like we. 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.000 Talked about this the whole situation, like around food, Like 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.040 when you grow up poor, it's like you got to 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.200 eat everything on the plate. So then when you got 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.440 adults out here, like why you eating a triple cheeseburgers 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.240 because like they stomach just expanded. They be eating theyself 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.720 to death since they was eight seven to eight years 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.920 old because they folks just couldn't afford food. 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.520 So it's like can't waste food. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.360 It's a lot of stuff that type out that our childhood. 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.600 You know, therapy it helps you like recognize some of 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.440 them stuff too. So when you kind of start unpacking 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.520 your childhood, you just wonder how many people ain't unpacking. 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.760 Their because everything when you I saw I see you 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.480 on your journey, and I see that you started going 0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.600 to therapy. One thing therapy is gonna teach you that 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.120 every single thing that you're dealing with as an adult 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.959 is directly connected to something that happened to you as 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.800 a child. And you spend so much time as an 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:54.000 adult trying to heal that little traumatized little boy. 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:55.320 Man that fruit front the roof, bro. 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:59.080 So whatever fruit you're putting out, it got a root 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.840 that it started there. And I think acknowledging that, I 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.840 think one of the most five bars my therapist ever dropped. 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:13.000 He was like, a perfection starts at inception, So if 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.040 you ever made a mistake, you ain't perfect. 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:16.520 So she stopped trying to be perfect. 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:21.240 You know, I was like cold, I would make mistakes 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:21.680 at seven. 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:22.720 Well I'm trying to be perfect. 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:23.400 I can't be perfect. 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.200 No, mom, He's like, you missed one shot in the 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.120 beginning of the game. You can make all the rest 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.640 of them. It's still ain't one hundred percent. You ain't perfect. 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.800 So you know, taking that with me too, and then 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.000 just not if I put it out there, how well 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:35.840 it's been received. 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.440 It kind of takes the stigma and the fear away 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:38.760 from it. 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.040 From not only me, but for other people too, and 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.280 it's like, that's really the girl for real because everybody 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.360 can't afford therapy. What mean you start going, yeah, bro, 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.480 this jump started again becoming a lot because dealing with 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.240 all this notoriety it pull you in several different directions. 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.560 Then start realizing like now I ain't got as much 0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.560 time as I used to and where I used to 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.560 unpack these thoughts late at night, it's like, well, I'm 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.240 thinking about something I did when I was thirteen, and 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.120 I got to show tomorrow and I got this interview 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.400 and damn, I double schedule the studio session and I 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.799 got to like cancel on something, and it's like, damn, bro, 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.799 I need somewhere to put this and I don't want 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.080 to put it on somebody. I can't just put my dog, 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.840 like everything on my partner. Yeah, that's crazy. And the 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.359 day he got stuff he dealing with too, and it's like, well, 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.719 there are professionals out here that deal with this. It's 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:29.320 like and too, you have been like champion in therapy 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.640 for black Man for a long time, so you know, 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.000 I was like you look too. Situations like That're like okay, well, 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.880 Charlott mane be telling you go therapy, let me go 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.200 see what he fuk talking about. And I got a 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.759 black male therapist too, so it's like, you know, I 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.080 think it's also too important to be an example in 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.200 that space. Like it's okay, you take the stick my way. 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.479 We don't be trusting doctors. That's we got good reason 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.640 behind it. But get your mind right, like, get your 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.400 mind right for real, because if you don't get your 0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.359 mind right in this space where you're sharing a lot 0:34:58.360 --> 0:34:59.680 of your mind, you're gonna lose your mind. 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.160 Is your therapist culturally competent? You know? 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:04.120 Yeah, he's from Northfolk, Virginia. 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.879 Okay, do you talk to your therapists about certain things 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.279 you decide to divoge on your podcast or TikTok or 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:11.799 whatever first before you do it? 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.680 Oh nah, man, we'll be talking about me. 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.960 Okay, really you know what I'm saying, Like the stuff 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.640 I won't share because it's like you got to keep 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.160 stuff for yourself too, you can't get folks. 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:22.839 But then also to. 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.520 Some stuff you know, you know, I got my own 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.839 shortcomings and perfections too that I want to work through 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.319 and like as I grow in this space, like it's 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.560 great to boom and have a great career. But like 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.920 if you stay routed in the same mentality or you 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.839 keep packing stuff away, you know, that's where you see 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.480 people crash out because he was like, dangn brother, just 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.719 snap one day. But it's like he been dealing with 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.160 all the pressures of being a provider, making all the 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.680 money and holding up this image and stuff like that. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.399 A lot of this stuff do come with, like having 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.480 a reputation, being reputable, being trustworthy, being a. 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.080 Source of truth. 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.200 You know, that come with pressure too because you want 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.839 to maintain the integrity of the stuff too. But then 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.839 you slipping in other parts of your life, that ship 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.120 are gonna compound it be a rout for you. 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:04.799 That's what about you? 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.520 What's your childhood? 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:08.280 Childhood? 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:09.840 I had this lit childhood. I ain't going out to. 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.720 You cool your trauma. 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:22.280 T I don't have trauma. 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.840 But as far as like overall my childhood, like my 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.960 parents gave me a great childhood. My dad did this 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.960 thing in the streets, went to prison. So that's like 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.400 how where my trauma come from? Because I never I 0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.040 like always said, no matter how broke, I am ain't 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.120 gonna see on no drugs because being in the call 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.759 when you were a kid and driving through the middle 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.320 of know where to go to a prison. That should 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.600 do something to you, you know what I'm saying, Because 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.000 then I had to leave my dad. That's my dog nowhere, Yeah, 0:36:51.080 --> 0:37:01.360 in the middle of nowhere. But but yeah, so like 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.799 just seeing that and like going to a prison and 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.120 seeing my dad have to these white people talking to 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.400 my dad crazy, like getting in line and do this ship. 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.560 That is where my trauma come from. So I always said, 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.520 I never put my woman on my kid. 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:16.120 Do that, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.560 So, like I said, no matter how broke I am, 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.719 I'd be thinking about it, like now, well I can 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.640 get off of brick right now, yep. But then the 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.319 other part of it, I've seen the other part of 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.600 a lot of people don't talk about that. They just 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.640 talk about, yeah, my dad was this in the street. 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.000 But do you ever go see your dad in prison? 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:34.400 That shit crazy? 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.279 So yeah, that's that's That's the only thing traumba for 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.480 my childhood. But other than that, everything I wanted. 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:48.120 And y'all met early, y'all met, Like we're saying that 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.560 about your father. You know, there was this whole thing 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.440 with Mike Capsta. Think about it last week when they 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.400 was like mad at him because he said you shouldn't 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.040 celebrate people when the home out of prison. What y'all 0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:56.560 thought about that? 0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.439 I mean, we say this all the time. People who 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.040 get celebrated coming out of prison. We celebrate them more 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.040 than people that come home from college. You know what 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.759 I'm saying. Naw, you shouldn't really get celebrated because you 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.680 can't hold a prison. But were happy to see you, you. 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:09.200 Know what I'm saying. 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.560 But also your cousin in college, you're struggling to eat 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.400 every night. We gotta get him that money. You in jail. 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:17.719 You know, of course we gonna help you when we can, 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:19.799 but ship you need to help too. 0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:20.480 More do you do? 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.400 But when you come home, we go celebrate you, But 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.560 we should also celebrate you know, the cousin that's coming 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:25.800 home from college that just graduated. 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.399 And in our community, I think we don't see that enough. 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.920 And I think, like, you know, that's that's like a 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.120 big thing in our community, celebrating people that come from jail. 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:39.319 Because go ahead, bay stress, because yeah, because like we 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.160 see that more in our community, people going to jail 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.440 then people going to college. And it's like, you know, 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.520 how can we relate? So when you get somebody to 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:46.839 go to college, it's like, all right, well you're home 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:47.399 now that. 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:48.120 What he's supposed to do. 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.040 What about the person that went to jail what they 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.799 were supposed to do? Yeah, so come home, get in line, 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.399 get that job, get that trade. We go help you out. 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.200 We ain't even throw no bigg ass party. 0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:03.480 For you at your kids? Right, How does the trauma 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.440 that that you had as a child affect how you 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:06.160 raise your kids? 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.319 Man, bro, I already know that I'm just not gonna 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.600 get everything right when you get out of your. 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:15.040 Man. 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.359 Look, man, the lder you get, the more like you 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:22.920 just understand your parents With people, I honestly, when I 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.640 make a mistake, I apologize to my children, like directly, 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:28.760 straight up. I love on my kids lot because ween't 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.480 come from a very effictionate household. I'm thinking, do you 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.719 know I don't remember. I know I was in teenage 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.960 years and like kind of cutting up before my folks. 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.240 It was like vocally said I love you. 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:39.920 You know what I'm saying. 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:46.279 So I kind of killed the superman early with them, Like, look, bro, 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.200 I make mistakes, I mess up. I'm not perfect. You're 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.560 not perfect. You're not gonna be perfect. 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.480 But that doesn't kill a superman because they still think 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:53.320 thatad he's Superman. 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.600 Yeah, but I'm talking about that fiction is like, you know, 0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:01.080 I used to think my parents knew everything. Bro y'all 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:08.399 was winging it brou because like it be times where 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.200 I'm like, I'm fucking winging. I'm winging it right now. 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.120 I don't got it figured out, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:14.920 I'm like, Bro, it's a little Caesars. That's what I 0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.440 got on me right now. It's not like but and 0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.160 I want you want to dress it up like it's 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.280 a piece of party. It's like, nah, we broke because 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.080 that's where we are with it. We messed up. We're 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.440 gonna get two pieces for a little Caesars, you know 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.160 what I'm saying. We're gonna rock out, eat it while 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.040 it's hot, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, But I 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.080 think more than anything, it's like you just try to 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.120 minimize it. Like for the most part, I'm gonna take 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.920 everything from my parents that I feel like they did 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.080 right and in part of their wisdom to my children 0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.440 because it worked for me and things I feel like 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.239 they did wrong. I don't think we gotta demonize it, 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.479 but just learn from it. Why did they think like that? 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.440 That's the understanding why they did the day? 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:50.560 Yeah. 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.279 I mean like sometimes I look back at my dad 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:53.640 and I would hate when it's like you got to 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.319 be home with this time. You can't go there now 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.440 when I got kids, I'm. 0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:58.920 Like, that's why you said it. 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.319 Now you can't go there. But the difference is, I explain, 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:04.200 as I said, so you just took it. 0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.399 Asked why, well I couldn't. Why you know what I mean, 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.440 that's because she couldn't. Right, You look at that as 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.080 a form of disrespect, like you are you questioning my judgment? 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.920 Is like, yeah, I am. 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.040 And when and when did that start with black people? 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.399 Well, we couldn't question that, so we carry that into 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.200 our households and we just got to continue, you know, 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:32.919 Like I get the idea of breaking generational curses is cool, 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:34.920 but it's like I ain't gonna say my fault cursed me. 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.719 I think we just we're healing generation by generation. We 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.560 come from a rough beginning in this country, and that 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.720 stuff staying on a on a genetic level of staying. 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:48.440 So I think more than anything. I try to recognize, Like. 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.359 When I'm repeating some of those behaviors too, I try 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.880 not to, like try to be slow to anger. But 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.879 you don't get it right all the time. Sometimes kids 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:57.439 be tripping, like they do. 0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:58.200 What's with you? 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:00.000 Like that? 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:04.640 You know what I'm saying. You try, But I think 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.120 the same thing too, is like you just got to 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.120 take the ego out of these people. They little people. 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:08.480 They don't know. 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:10.440 I used to say no for no reason. 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:12.160 You do not get to know. 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:13.680 Why did you say. 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.680 Because you can because because that's what you used to 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.520 You just used to know, just like and then it's 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.719 like to my point, it's like your parents don't tell you, 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.600 like what the finance situation is, and then like you 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.160 gotta ask your mama, Like, bro, you know the Dreamcast 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.759 came out, get the face, like. 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.120 Yeah, but you put more pressure on it though I 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.480 just seen I just seen the commercial. 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.120 But I don't know what you're going through. 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:42.840 But that's really about to say. 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:44.719 You just put more pressure on on your parents at 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.400 that point because they don't they don't know how to 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.239 say like I ain't got it, I ain't got it 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.640 because they want and they eyes they wanted you to 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.240 look at them like they got everything. They can provide 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.640 everything for you. And sometimes been telling myself like, brother, 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.279 I ain't got it right now. Brom'st in sixteen, so 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.080 I'll be like ship Bro sometimes and he was loving 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.240 b I ain't got that shit right now now a little. 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:05.000 Bit, you know what I'm saying. 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.839 But one reason that we are head of the curve 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.640 is because we not afraid to tell our kids our stories. Man, 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.080 We're not afraid. When I started to, you know, go 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.520 to therapy and start talking about my mental health issue, 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.879 That's what my dad opened up to me. I ain't 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.320 know my dad was on ten to twelve different medications 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:21.600 for his mental health. I didn't know he tried to 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.120 commit suicide. I didn't know he was going through a 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.120 therapist two and three times a week. But when he 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.520 told me that, man, I give it just made me 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.480 give him all the grace in the world come like 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.040 he was just a man trying to figure it out. 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:32.959 Like I'm a man trying to figure it out, right, 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.760 But it's just good to tell our kids our stories. 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.360 Yeah, and even with your or the faults, like you 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.480 can extend grace tong once you learn that story. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:41.280 Some people ain't gonna change. 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.080 I think a situation like we kind of grow up 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.839 in this situation where we ready to cut everybody off 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.960 of everything. We got enough contact with everybody. That's an 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.200 avoidant style of dealing with stuff too. I'd rather just 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.200 get you out my life. But I also understand on 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.759 the other side of that, it's like, man, you can't 0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:00.960 just gonna be disrespecting me. You know what I'm saying. 0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:02.879 You're gonna recognize me as a girl and human too. 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.640 And I understand a void like like just giving folk 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.880 space when you realize they ag ready to grow so 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.120 you can continue to grow too. Cause like trying to 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.319 change somebody's mind, bro, that's the hardest thing. That's hard 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:14.600 to change your ownline about stuff. 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.360 Yeah, you can't deal with the person that hadn't recognized 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.120 your growth on me. Ain't even just your family, just 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:20.960 anybody in general. Like I'm sure y'all got people from 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.239 high school. That's like still trying to talk to y'all, 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.640 like y'all haven't grown and who y'all are now? You 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:26.120 know what I mean? 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.000 If you calling me from high school, you're STI talking 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:29.279 about it in high school. I don't want to talk 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.520 to you. Yeah, I don't want to kick it, which 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:32.359 you can chop that bro. 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.600 Even going back to what you said Kat, just now, 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.880 you were talking about having a child and you're saying 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:40.960 just no because you can, and then you're putting the 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.040 pressure on. Yeah, you were talking about putting the pressure 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:45.920 on the parent because you know they ain't got it. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:46.920 They don't know how to say it. 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:47.520 Now. 0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:51.400 My sons seeing the best of both worlds because I 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:56.399 didn't always have it right and now I do, you know, 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.719 and been having it right. But I still don't like 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.680 to you just give him because we got it now, 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:03.759 you know what I mean? 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:05.239 Like what are your thoughts on that? 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.000 Because some people bought out of control all the time 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.800 because they got it now and they didn't have it before. 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.360 But I want my son, I want ask them to 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.120 be open minded. I don't want him to be entitled. 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.600 I don't it's certain things I don't want him, oh 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.480 just because my mother got this, oh you know, and they're. 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.719 Just a black experience. Yeah, I don't like to. 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.560 Give him everything he asked. So like the christ if 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.160 you saw this Christmas list, but. 0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.160 Sid, your son can't from trugtle with you though, like 0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.600 we've seen your son grow up with you, you know what 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.359 I'm saying. That's amazing too, though, But you know, it's 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:36.480 just you have to balance it out. 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.680 But I ain't get him everything on the Christmas list. 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.520 It's wrong for them. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.480 I'm not getting no because you got to teach him 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:44.480 like some shit you got to earn. 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.279 Some shit can be given. Some shing you gotta earn. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.520 You know what I'm saying. You can't give him everything. 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.520 If you give a person everything, they feel entired, like, 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:52.960 oh shit, I can get it whatever I want to get. 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:55.480 And I have no complaints. I'm talking about straight a. 0:45:55.719 --> 0:46:01.640 My son smart as a mom like me, you know, but. 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.640 I would say he's smarter, but that's that's good. Supposed 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:06.239 to be smarter than. 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:07.279 He's supposed to be smarter. 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.400 My son is smart. 0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.759 But even still, I have no problem out of my kid. 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:20.719 But still it's just something about getting him everything that 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.360 he asks for when he asks for it. I have 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.759 no issues with my son. I just still don't want 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.839 to do that getting every single thing. 0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:29.480 No, we should. 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:31.080 We should be able to spoil our children, you know, 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.160 because the other side spoil their children, you know what 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:33.600 I'm saying. 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:39.759 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:41.399 But the other side, you know, they had to look, 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.400 you know, can't tell me nothing. We come from a 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.520 place where you know, a lot of us came from 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.360 humble beginnings. So we ain't always have everything, you know 0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.279 what I'm saying. So that's that's that's where it comes from. 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:53.440 It's like a mental thing like I don't want to 0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.440 give everything because ship I ain't have everything, but my 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.279 mom did try to give me what she could. But 0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.160 you can give them what you what you want. And 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:01.760 that's a difference, and I think it's way your struggle. 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.720 But you know, on the other end of that, because 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.960 I go back and forth about this, A lot of 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.640 parents when they die, they give their kids something right, 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:11.440 and I never wanted that to be me. I want 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.840 to see my parents enjoy. I want to see me 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.680 my kids enjoy what I work hard, like, I want 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.000 to see it. I don't want to give it to 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:19.560 them when they die. I want to see it. And 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.160 then on another thing, I always say, we work hard sometimes, 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.319 but we want our kids to struggle, and I don't 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:26.920 want I didn't want that to be my kids. I 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:28.840 want them to do what they want to do, right, 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.479 because at the end of the life, you realize life 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.359 is short, right, and at the end of the day, 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.400 it doesn't matter how much money you got, is matter. 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:36.200 How happy you are. 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.160 So if I could set your life up where you 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.200 can do if you want to do nails, if it 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.279 makes you happy, you're happy. I don't care. 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:44.120 That's not my life. 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:45.440 I just want you to be happy. You don't got 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:46.600 to be a billionaire, you ain't got to be one 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.760 hundred million yet. But if you happy making one hundred 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.399 thousand dollars a year and you're genuinely happy, that's better 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.160 than most people out here that's not happy that makes 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:54.879 all this money. I try to set up their life 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.680 where it's like, let me guide you, where you could 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.080 just do what you want to do. Because as a kid, 0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:00.239 when I said I wanted to be a d J, 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:04.000 everybody laugh like, nigga, you can't be no DJ. And 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:05.440 I'm sure y'all heard the same thing when y'all said, 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.439 y'all want to do the podcast. So it's like, that's 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.040 what I want for my kids in my family, just 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:09.760 want them to be happy. 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.920 Yeah, well, my son wanted to be a gamer, but 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.359 then I watched them and like he sucks, so it's 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:18.120 like you can't do the game, but he's great at sports. 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:19.480 Yeah, that's good. 0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.640 I think that real though, bro, Like you know, I 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.719 told my kids like you, like people tell you can 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:26.279 be anything in the world you want. 0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.080 You could be with you good at you know what 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:28.560 I'm saying. 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.120 You second, math, why are you trying to be a 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:34.000 rock sized It's just like sugg Justice, know what I'm saying, 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:39.440 attle Bit you're great with words, Yeah, slam. 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:44.439 Poetry may be when you say that because he hates 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:54.279 to see his kid slim, I'm crazy. 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.440 It's just dramatic. That's not like anime. It's just ramatic. 0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:02.600 You just you the she was just yeah, we got 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.600 something drop on her. It's not it's not that, it's 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.799 just you know, like I wish that I. 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:16.480 Could see. 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.319 That's what I'm talking about, just that genre and when 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.279 you can see that, the d isn't for me. 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:22.840 L G B T. 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:33.919 A real breakfast club. 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:40.400 Yeah, but keeping a balance with your kids is important 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.719 to because I think you don't want to get to 0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.279 receiving And then also one of the worst things as 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.399 a parent is like when you give your child something 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.799 and you don't feel like they're grateful, like you feel 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:58.440 like it's like but you got to internalize it too, 0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.640 So it's like you kind of you can't just you 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.520 can't make somebody be grateful. But I think, you know, 0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.480 I tell my kids like it be limits on everything 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.279 to Like my son, he get a fourteen, you know, 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.719 like their generation is looking at like Lamping's and is 0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:12.960 that how you pronounce that whatever? 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.480 Designer? They look at that like regular Degglar. 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:20.920 I'm like I told him, I was like, you know 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:25.160 anything that I will rock Nike, you know, Dadas whatever 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.000 like regular Doglar. I'm with you. When you start talking 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.520 designer that stuff, you gotta go get your own. You 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.080 heard of that, you know what I'm saying, Like twelve hundred. 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:39.719 Yeah, like it got them form but ship but right, yeah, 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:42.319 but how many hours did the airport for them get 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.439 twelve niggas their port all day? 0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:49.959 Yeah? Like I told my son, yeah, sixteen. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:54.320 Sixteen you bought Wow, but flying fresh. 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.919 They come from my childhood though, you know what I'm saying, 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.120 It's like my daddy had it like that, you know 0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:00.480 what I'm saying. 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:01.520 So what I like, Shit, your. 0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.840 Dad wasn't working at the airport, was he was he 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:05.879 wasn't working at the airport. But I've seen this shit. 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.520 Like if I asked for it, I probably wouldn't get 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.800 it that week, but I get it next week, you 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:11.440 know what I'm saying. 0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:12.840 So it's just like damn. 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.479 In my mind is like the pressure like what I'm saying, 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:16.960 the pressure like that, how can I keep it? 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.080 Like my dad was a great dad, even in prison. 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:20.200 My dad was a gret dad. My dad told me 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.080 how to watch the dishes over the phone. You know 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.040 what I'm saying, Do this, go, do that. He told 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.000 me to cut the grays on the phone. You feel me. 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:27.880 But I'll be like, damn, how can I keep it 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:28.200 with my dad? 0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:29.960 I ain't got the money that my dad had to 0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:31.520 throw away, but ship, I still want to be a 0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:32.719 great dad, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:34.480 That's why I like compete with myself. 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:38.040 Like I mean, I mean you are you already are? Yeah, 0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.160 You're a better father than your father because just being 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.160 free physically. 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.719 I always tell my kids that when they think I'm 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:48.959 being hard on them, It's like, bro, I'm not focused on. 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:50.840 You, the twelve year old, I'm focused on you the 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:51.719 twenty two year olds. 0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.319 Real you know, you're raising it like we're raising we're 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.680 raising children, but they're going to be a They're gonna 0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.480 function in the world, and a lot of how they 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.920 function is gonna start from how they was in the household. 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.440 So if they feel entitled because their mom and get 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.520 them everything they want, that's gonna spill over the jobs, 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.399 that's gonna spill over the partners, that's gonna spill over 0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:10.400 to so many different. 0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:11.200 Relationships in your life. 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.160 It's just like keeping bound You got boundaries with your 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.080 cheersren too, you know what I'm saying. And you allow 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:17.760 your kids to have boundaries with you as a parent, 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:18.160 you know. 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:18.520 What I mean? 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:24.560 Yeah, speaking of parenting you uh your TikTok video about 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:28.480 your biological mom being white, Yeah, that sparked so much 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:32.040 like conversation around identity and like being a biracial kid 0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.480 and you know what made you want to share that 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:35.600 and particalarly going through that. 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.960 So it was just you know, you just start talking 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.759 about yourself, like honestly, my mom and dad in two 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:46.319 thousand nineteen, I didn't look Yeah, yeah, I didn't know. 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.640 I didn't know I was a doctor. So I found 0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.640 out post her. I was adopted at two days old, 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:55.440 you did what I'm saying. So of course that is 0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.840 gonna spark up a whole bunch of stuff around identity 0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:00.000 and things like that. But for me it was liberating 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.560 because I was like, brod, I knew I went't crazy. 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.400 Bro Yeah, we ain't all in here looking alike. You know, 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.760 I'm I'm add aball out on how we looked. 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:08.720 It was just a physical looking or did you feel 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:09.399 away and turning? 0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:09.640 No? 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.040 No, it's like it's everything. I don't think the way. 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.239 It's a lot of different things, you know what I'm saying. 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.960 But for me it was just like really, it's like 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:20.000 I'm gonna let you hear it from the horse's mouth 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.279 because it was it was all TikTok videos that was resarchcing, 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:25.600 and people was like, see, he ain't no black leader, 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.719 he ain't even black. It's like shouty my mom and 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.440 daddy black. I was adopted at two days old. I 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.560 don't even know these folks. For one, I don't know 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.400 if these folks white or not. I don't know them. 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.880 And only only thing I know is JUHNK. We just 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.239 joke about being Scottish because I did a little ancestor 0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:43.719 like you know when you first time find something out 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.279 you like, I don't know, it's like, oh, I'm thirty 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.640 percent Scottish, I'm forty percent not gym like real, you 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.920 know what I mean, I'm a Scottish Nigerian. I just 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.000 but I'm going through like my own moutions are like 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:54.840 accepting it. And then I went through a lot of 0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.680 angry phases about this. But you gonna try to discredit 0:53:57.719 --> 0:53:59.800 who I am because of something you say? Hey, I 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.520 tell you you know what I'm saying. You ain't gonna 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.399 take it like you can't hear from the horse's mouth. 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:10.239 It wasn't really about defending anything. It's just like noah, yeah, yeah, 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.839 now what because like you ain't got this credit me Bro, 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:16.400 Like it's it's it's a couple of creators. 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.759 They are like, it's the men be obsessed with me. 0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:19.960 Bro. 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.359 They make videos about me all day every day and 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:30.200 it's like yeah, and I'll be like, it's free promoting. 0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.800 That just reacts to your content, even your old content. 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.399 Yeah, it's loved though, because even fake pages like bro 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.359 they all promote me. My my they page is full 0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.919 of my face. Once they refined the real thing we live. 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:42.160 But I think for me, it was just like clarifying, 0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:44.239 like this ain't nothing I'm running away from, bro. And 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:48.239 that's the same time, it's like I was two days old. Bro, 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:50.839 I don't know them people. I don't know nothing about them. 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:54.399 I don't really desire to either. Your biologic Yeah, yeah, 0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:56.120 well I heard stories. 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:56.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.759 I really don't like even my folks don't know. My 0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.759 mama was swore the fuck secret. But then you find out, 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.960 like your mama having warm issues and stuff like that, 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.000 it's a miracle for her, bro to be able to 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.440 get a baby. So it's like, yeah, Bro, I'm not 0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:10.600 tripping on that, you know what I mean. Like, whatever 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:12.719 them folks had going on, that was their arrangement. 0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.880 I was here. My folks raised me. Well, you know 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:16.319 what I'm saying. 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.080 They had their own shortcomings and stuff, but I was 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.839 raising the household of love, and I learned so much 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:22.440 from my household, you know what I mean. And my 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.799 family taught me so much. It's like, I'm not discarding 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.880 that because I get some new information, you know what 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:30.400 I'm saying. I'm already in. I'm already whole, So I 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:32.200 don't really need to go looking for none. I don't 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:33.799 feel no for it, you know what I mean? 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:35.759 You know, one stereo type they always say, they'll say 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:41.880 that light skinned black people are biracials, will be overly black, 0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.960 overly revolutionary. Yeah, that's probably what they try to come in. 0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:47.200 Yeah they did. But it's like, yeah, I ain't never 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:48.759 know nothing about it. You know, I ain't know. 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:50.360 I had nothing to compensate for, you know what I 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.280 mean in my neighborhood. But it's like being light skinned. 0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.080 It's like I see life skin folks all the time. 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.400 I see mixed folks all the time. Like all I 0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:59.720 know is this community. I ain't never really seen no difference. 0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:03.960 But I understand, I can understand the psychology but trying behind, 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.520 trying to over compensate. But that just ain't my vibe. 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.960 But the dog skinning brothers with boll heads that. 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.480 Hettle jump you in this mother he. 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:22.880 Almost hard art that feet don't touch the ground, you 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.920 know you're surrounded. See that's the thing too, is like 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.880 like it's it's like, you know, the funniest thing to 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.080 me is like, uh like when certain black men to 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.560 be like yeah, you know them them light skinning them 0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:36.040 by racials like, Bro, you don't want to make it. 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.520 Bro, that's a fact. Stop sleeping with white women. You 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:39.400 gotta worry about. 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:40.839 Manout somewhere like. 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:47.160 Love you love, But like bro, like you you you know, 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:49.840 I ain't go out there like they be coming for 0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:51.879 him on and I'll be. 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.399 Ready to cry, I'll be ready to fight off. 0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:58.719 But he'd be like, but. 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:02.120 They's on line. But we come from a real place. 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.200 Like the nigga talks about my dog. I'm really slepting, 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:08.520 you know what I'm saying. So it would be loving person. 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.560 Yeah, loving person you don't want to picture, you know 0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:11.960 what I'm saying. 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.480 Every single time, Like I think one of the biggest, 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:15.880 one of the biggest haters. 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.160 I got like as to be on the podcast and 0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:19.880 I just didn't respond the time. 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:21.800 Happened all the time. 0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:27.040 Now you never never you up. We never talked about Cooper. 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:29.960 Nobody hate to question being that you don't know who 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.520 your biological parents are. Just ice scare you. 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:40.360 Matross my mind. 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:41.240 We can jentlem if you. 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:46.480 Want, you know, smoke crazy in the back outs on 0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:56.400 the real web side that you know what the funniest 0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.120 thing is Like when I was younger, you know, you 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:00.760 get the breasht cut. You know, won't we won't go 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:04.720 waves at junk. You know you really you're really struggling 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:05.880 to try to get some waves. I was like, man, 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.960 I ain't doing that. So, uh, my partners used to 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:10.520 joke with me, like when we was roast, they called 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:15.160 me dis broader your mixing a one time me and 0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:17.160 my home boy had went we was like breaking in 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:20.360 cars and stuff, and I guess whatever the word got 0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.360 like we was on foot. Now that's so stupid breaking 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.520 the car while you're on feet. But the police pulled 0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.480 this over and they was like going at my partner 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:33.360 and it was like you you speak English. I was like, no, 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:37.360 it's not. 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:51.320 Like indimitably English, Nigga, the Kings English, the Queens work. 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:56.480 Speaking of the love of the creator showed so much 0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.000 love one of the podcasts he listened to it with 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.440 the cutting room floor. After talking about people that got 0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:02.800 podcasts are not smart. 0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.760 Said gross, You actually said podcasts are gross? 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:05.680 Yeah, you feel me. 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.040 It's love, bro, You know, we get a lot of love, 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:13.880 and that's what matter for real. Like you know when 0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.120 people walk up, like even with Tyler knowing he just 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:17.000 don't like nothing. 0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:18.439 It's like, oh, that's love. 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.000 But I think more than anything, when people walk up 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:24.960 and they're like, man, man, my son taught me to 0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.439 listen to your podcast, And then on the opposite out side, 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:30.800 it's like man, my son, like, like my dad told 0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:32.680 me to listen to you, Well, my mom taught me 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:36.080 to listen to Like it's intergenerational thing. I know we're 0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:38.600 doing the right thing because, like what we're trying to 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:41.440 really do is bridge gaps. Like we got a lot 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:45.200 of gaps in our community around differences, but our experience 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:47.560 is extremely the same. And it's like, bro, you want 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:49.880 to let one little thing that you don't have in 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.880 common with a person separate you when all the other 0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:55.120 experiences you can relate to, that's a little foolish. It's like, 0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:59.040 you know, I ain't with no division. So if we 0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.640 bridging gaps and it's like a family thing, you know, 1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:03.800 folks watching this like me and my man watch this, 1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.000 Me and my girlfriend wate this, Like, bro, that's the love. 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:07.720 That's what we focus on. The love. 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:09.959 Yeah, I do. I got two more questions learn about 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.600 one bet right from I heard you talking about systems 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.280 and that we had Christopher Williams up here and he 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:17.040 was talking about that as well, and I feel the 1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:19.920 same way. And I don't know we'll ever truly be 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:21.640 able to change the system. I don't even know if 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:24.640 that's a pessimistic mindset to have, but I do feel 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:29.000 like we can liberate ourselves with fitnesses, like that's really 1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.280 the only way to be to achieve anything. Really. 1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:35.959 I think that's a lot about what like intersectionality is about. 1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:38.880 It's like people want to tear down the dismount of 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:41.560 systems that for one, they really don't know how to work. 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.280 They just know how they work against them. 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.880 You know, they you know how how it feels to 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.800 be oppressed, but like you don't understand like the history 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:51.720 of these system how they was built and things like that. 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:54.120 So you know, you tear everything down, do you have 1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:56.360 a community you can rely on? Do you like what 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.360 you're gonna do? Do you have the tools to rebuild it? 1:00:58.440 --> 1:00:59.440 Yeah? 1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:02.240 And I think because of like film and movie, we 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:04.320 think doing the gloom, we think mad Max, and we 1:01:04.320 --> 1:01:06.240 think the world just gonna end and be anarchy. But 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:10.720 I think you know, within understanding, that's how you operate, 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:13.439 you know, like at work, anybody like Finesse, at work, 1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:16.240 like Big K used to be finishing at the Mercedes beans. Bro, 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:18.560 He's to be like, he know, if I get this 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:20.720 amount of money, I could put that back in the 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:22.040 Jory and get that back to the company and the 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:24.440 rest I could pocket. He operating within the system, but 1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:26.920 he benefited himself. It's like that, what do you folks do? 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:35.960 Like looking for me that. 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:38.240 You don't. 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:45.440 You know what I'm saying, But look, I think that 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:48.120 the bigger thing is this is just like you know, 1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:51.960 I'll be telling my partners in the hour of time. Like, Bro, 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:53.640 if you shut your phone off for two weeks, you 1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.280 ain't gonna know what's going on in the world, but 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:56.720 you'll know what's going on in your world. 1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.720 And like, so sometimes you gotta just focus on that part. 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:02.320 Like if we focus on like the big the big 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:04.600 picture of America all. 1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:06.000 The time, like that stretch you out. B. 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:10.880 These folks have entire like corporations designed to push negative 1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:13.480 media towards you every day. Like sometimes you gotta take 1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:15.600 a break, like a lot of you know this this 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:18.360 all this technology is fairly new, so like and we 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:19.439 obsessed over it. 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:20.720 It's like, just take a break. B. 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:23.560 It's like five bit you know, recoup, like because you 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:25.840 can't really be helpful to the community anyway if you're 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:27.080 not good with yourself. 1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:28.480 We all got work to do. 1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:31.240 But you know, the bigger system, at largest system that 1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:33.880 we've been fighting since we came here. So I think 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:38.760 continue to fight we seen which is white supremacis yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:41.720 and I think you know, and capitalism too. But I 1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:46.520 think to continue that fight while also continue to like 1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:49.640 embrace each other and strengthen our bond within our community. 1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:52.320 That's the most important part. You know. It's a it's 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.000 a we're gonna chip away out a little bit of 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:55.040 a time, you know what I mean. 1:02:56.080 --> 1:03:00.240 My last question's something the podcast industry doesn't prepare creators. 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:04.600 Success. 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:08.760 What jo Joe said, it ramp up, you know, Like 1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:12.800 I think the biggest thing is too, it's like what 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:14.760 you're gonna do when it when it happened. But also 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:17.440 like it's gonna be days where you just like just 1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:19.480 like a job, like you don't feel like it, but 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:21.320 you really got to tighten up and get to it 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:23.760 because now you've got an audience, you got people depend 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:23.920 on you. 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:26.000 It's like the thing is is like you don't want 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:26.640 them to go away. 1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:30.760 Yeah, just being consistent, and then I think podcasting in 1:03:30.840 --> 1:03:33.479 general for us, it's shit easy. 1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:33.640 Bro. 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:36.000 We just being ourselves, you know what I'm saying, We 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:39.200 represent ourselves. So as long as I know, I ain't 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.120 I ain't hear faking the funk. I ain't got no gimmick, 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:42.960 you know what I'm saying. It's just like we being ourselves. 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:46.040 That's what makes it easy. But scheduling, staying on top 1:03:46.040 --> 1:03:47.840 of the thing, building the team, finding the team, you 1:03:47.920 --> 1:03:50.800 know what I'm saying, finding good people, getting over the 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:53.200 anxiety and feeling like everybody trying to take and still 1:03:53.800 --> 1:03:56.280 you know, just be opportunistic. Like you know, it's a 1:03:56.280 --> 1:03:57.800 lot of stuff that come with it, but you just 1:03:58.040 --> 1:03:59.920 a day at the time for real. When you manage it, 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:00.400 you can. 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:02.880 When you say success, you mean like the notoriety that 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:05.600 comes before the money. You say, you still work at 1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:06.040 the airport. 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.840 No, No, I was at I was at airport. Not 1:04:09.400 --> 1:04:10.880 the notoriety, the part. 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:13.120 It's the part where it's actually a functioning system, Like 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:15.760 we're making money out of this. We're feeding ourselves, we 1:04:15.800 --> 1:04:18.880 feeding each other, We able to hire people, you know 1:04:18.920 --> 1:04:21.479 what I'm saying, Things like that where it's like, oh shit, 1:04:21.560 --> 1:04:23.760 I just was like driving truck. That was the easy part. 1:04:23.800 --> 1:04:26.520 I knew my routes, I knew everything. Now I'm giving 1:04:26.520 --> 1:04:29.520 people they routes, you know what I'm saying. And metaphorically, 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:32.240 but being being in charge, you know what I'm saying. 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:33.720 I want to be a leader one and I want 1:04:33.720 --> 1:04:34.920 to be a boss, you know what I mean. But 1:04:35.680 --> 1:04:37.560 leading by example is a tough thing to do too, 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:40.880 because everybody just see it as like, damn, you make 1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:41.480 it look easier. 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:43.840 It's like, well, you ain't gonna you ain't. You ain't 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:45.400 in the room me at three am, Like oh my god, 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:48.280 what the fuck have I got myself into? You know 1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:50.040 what I'm saying. But it's real though. 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:52.080 It's like and I think keeping the balance of like 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:54.600 you know what I'm saying, It's gonna be peaks and valleys, 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:55.640 but you just keep going. 1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:57.760 You know what I'm saying, to keep going for sure? Right? 1:04:57.800 --> 1:04:59.959 Well? Yeah, man, make sure y'all subscribe to the GRITCH today. 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:04.160 Thankful we go. Are you rappers out there? 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