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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's the j en Vy Jesse, Larry Charlamagne the Guy.

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We have a special guest

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Speaker 2: in the building. Yes, indeed, from the Gritted Eggs Podcast,

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Speaker 2: Deontay Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Goddamn cat, Big Ice.

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Speaker 3: How you're feeling good? We're good, man. It's cold, bro,

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Speaker 3: excited to be here, tripping Bro, Like you're from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I'm from South Carolina too, so you never really get

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Speaker 1: used to this cold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like I had to jump out of ober, Like, Bro,

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Speaker 4: I might as well just walk jackets, Big jack.

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Speaker 3: Matter.

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Speaker 1: What's the origin story of the Grits and Eggs podcast?

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Speaker 4: I started doing TikTok from the truck just how to

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Speaker 4: you know. I'm like, you consume a lot of media

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Speaker 4: when you're on the road. I was like, man, I

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Speaker 4: feel like I could throw my head in here. I

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Speaker 4: feel like I got something to say. Yeah, charg drive Yeah,

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Speaker 4: for the last five years, I actually just stopped driving

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Speaker 4: trucks in April, you know what I'm saying. So once

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Speaker 4: the ticks has started blowing up, I just kind of

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Speaker 4: like foresight was just like I gotta find something else

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Speaker 4: to do. I can't just live on this one app

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Speaker 4: and I want to kind of get long form with it.

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Speaker 4: So YouTube natural place to go in the podcast, just

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Speaker 4: in like the place where people speak freely. So it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I figure out how much it cost to

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Speaker 4: set this thing up.

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Speaker 3: I just started in the back of the truck.

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Speaker 4: And then once it started gain tractioning me, I called

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Speaker 4: him and I was like, Yo, come work this camera

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Speaker 4: for me. Because we had a little Canning camera go

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Speaker 4: out like every twelve minutes, and I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: just come hit the button every twelve minutes. We had

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Speaker 4: to continue to shot little Sony four k joint and

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, it just run that and then

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Speaker 4: just the chemistry is just naturally started picking up.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even at the twelve minutes because anybody that

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Speaker 2: taped the podcast from the beginning knows that the camera

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Speaker 2: would shut off automatically twelve years. Yeah, so you either

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Speaker 2: have to reset it every twelve minutes or get two

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Speaker 2: views so that way you could go back and forth.

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Speaker 3: That's what it was doing.

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Speaker 4: The continual shot was grainy, but it was like a

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Speaker 4: decam and it was like it'll keep going so in

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Speaker 4: between times because sometimes he'll be like you forget, I

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Speaker 4: forget because we talked as friends, he ain't really seeing

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Speaker 4: me do my thing, so he like kind of getting

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Speaker 4: lost in the message. And then I'm like, Yo, get

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Speaker 4: the camera, bro, get on the camera. The red light

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Speaker 4: not on, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, it

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Speaker 4: was it was just a continuation of like smaller social

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Speaker 4: media clips into long fun content, like you can only

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Speaker 4: say so much in three minutes, and you can only

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Speaker 4: hold people attention so much on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So I was just like, all right, let's get a

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Speaker 4: long form and get the audience to actually want to

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Speaker 4: dive into these topics. You've been doing it for five years? No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I've been doing I started a podcast two years ago

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Speaker 4: in March, so, uh two years visual in January. Oh

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Speaker 4: you ahead of schedule then, because you know, there was

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Speaker 4: always a statistics show that it usually takes a podcast

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Speaker 4: sixty seven years to really.

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Speaker 1: Really really take off. And for you to already be

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Speaker 1: cutting through after only a couple of years, that's damn good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to prove a concept from social

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Speaker 4: media though, So, like I didn't come into it like

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Speaker 4: thousand strong on TikTok when I started, and so I

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Speaker 4: was like, all right, well kind of integrate these folks.

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Speaker 3: And I know, like integration is like ten percent.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you get a thousand people to watch

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Speaker 4: the yeah, I'm good. When we was getting a thousand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you got that mentality because people be

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Speaker 1: acting like a thousand people not a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Other people be outside right now.

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Speaker 4: The real We did our first show one hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty people looking at you on the face.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I need a minute, broball, like this

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Speaker 4: is insane, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But we done got used to that part too.

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Speaker 5: Because yeas you mess up, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It's the same with comedy. It's like transitioning from being uh,

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Speaker 5: this this person will make skits and all that, and

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Speaker 5: then you go on stage and now they're looking at

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Speaker 5: you and you can't delete or you can't.

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Speaker 4: Edited, Yeah, they got it, and then they looking at

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Speaker 4: you like this entertain us, do it do the thing

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Speaker 4: you do?

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Speaker 5: How was the first live show.

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Speaker 3: It was cool man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it was so much love too, because we

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Speaker 4: got invited out there and so like, you know, us

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Speaker 4: being like a podcast that's centered around like a black

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Speaker 4: experience and the community issues for us to go to

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Speaker 4: like one of the blackst cities in America. They invited

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Speaker 4: us and a lot of people. I'm going to Mississippi

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Speaker 4: to do nothing. So it was our first show, so

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Speaker 4: much love in it. But we done kind of got seasoned.

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Speaker 4: We do a couple of shows in Atlanta. We got

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Speaker 4: to show tomorrow out here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A difficult thing to talk about when you talk about

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Speaker 2: the podcast, what's one thing you'd be like, Ah, we

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Speaker 2: got to talk about that as a relationship. As a

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Speaker 2: politics is itationships.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: I start away from anything that's like low hanging fruit,

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Speaker 4: things that people just do just to get clicks.

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Speaker 3: I don't do raise bait.

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Speaker 4: Either you're gonna engage with this because you're genuinely interested,

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Speaker 4: or you're gonna keep it pushing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not trying to come with a hook.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing none of that because relationships, that's two people.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I don't know how you was raised.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what type of love you grew up around,

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Speaker 4: So I can't tell you how to love or how

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Speaker 4: to receive love, or how to operate with your partner.

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Speaker 4: Like that's that's just gonna have people disagreeing, and that's

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Speaker 4: good for engagement, but ain't long lasting.

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Speaker 6: Say, how do you choose in the community?

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Speaker 7: What Because there's always a lot going on, what you

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Speaker 7: spend your time focusing on what's low hanging fruit and

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Speaker 7: what's not.

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Speaker 4: I just don't react, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 4: like the thing about TikTok. What I learned early on

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Speaker 4: how to separate myself is like, don't just make a

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Speaker 4: video soon as something come out, because you're gonna miss

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Speaker 4: the mark. You don't got all the information. You don't

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Speaker 4: know if the headline was false, you don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's AI. You don't know nothing. So I just sit

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Speaker 4: back and kind of let like get my own perspective

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Speaker 4: on it, and like kind of research things too. People

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Speaker 4: just be talking. People just say stuff, and then you

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Speaker 4: come out and you ain't researched. I started to see

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Speaker 4: this happen with lgs a lot now Instagram, Like they

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Speaker 4: reposting stuff and like reacting and stuff and it's like

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Speaker 4: that's AI, it's not it's notorious for that, Pete Rock,

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Speaker 4: what you.

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Speaker 3: Be doing a stuff like oh my god, this is real.

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Speaker 3: Pep right, this.

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Speaker 1: I got one time with what was the brother name,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Lacy. It was they said it was his mom

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Speaker 1: and I got it from an eternity being Crump's page.

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Speaker 1: So it was his mom talking about what happened to

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Speaker 1: him and I just reposted it and it was a Yeah, it.

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Speaker 4: Get a little wicked because it's like you don't want

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Speaker 4: to because then it's like it's it's not really a

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Speaker 4: credibility thing. Anybody can get got by it, especially with

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Speaker 4: it being some new But I think with just reacting

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Speaker 4: to things off your like emotional standpoint, you can't take

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Speaker 4: your back like once you post it in you know

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Speaker 4: the internet thing like if you you take a puss down,

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Speaker 4: they're like scared.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta admit when you're wrong. Yeah, that's all

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Speaker 1: you gotta do too, because your audience will appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think the human aspect of it is just being

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Speaker 4: able to just say you're wrong. Don't double down on

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Speaker 4: your life, don't double down when you when you mess

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Speaker 4: up down here and be like, yeah, I missed, mister Mark,

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Speaker 4: I'm human.

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Speaker 7: Now that people are coming to y'all as like a

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Speaker 7: source of education, how has that changed or has it

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Speaker 7: changed your approach and how you present information? Is there

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Speaker 7: like a pressure because people like my little brother loves

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Speaker 7: your content and he swears by everything you said? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I like literally does that add pressure into how you

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Speaker 7: put out your content on what you choose to up?

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Speaker 4: Not really, I don't. I never approached it as like

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Speaker 4: the homies, like any anytime I used to rap, like

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Speaker 4: I was always talking about like owning our own stuff

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Speaker 3: I had these opinions already.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of my stuff is things that I researched,

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Speaker 4: lectures that I watch and kind of digest it for myself,

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Speaker 4: but also like life experience. I don't talk about nothing, no, no,

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Speaker 4: So I don't got that pressure to feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: it's ten other creators out here that said something about that.

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Speaker 3: Go watch the video. They might have hit it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna regurgitate information just because you want to

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Speaker 4: hear it from me, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: My brother wants to start this like trucking company, and

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Speaker 7: he has a whole idea. And when he told me

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Speaker 7: on ownership. It was like, you could work all these

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Speaker 7: businesses and try to become a millionaire, but what they

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Speaker 7: give to you they could take from you, right, And

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Speaker 7: that was his way of telling me, like I need

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Speaker 7: to help him figure that out.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, so he.

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Speaker 3: Leans into y'all lot, Yeah for sure, shout out your

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Speaker 3: little brother.

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Speaker 7: His name is don Don't on the truck.

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Speaker 1: Why the name grits and eggs, Like, what does that

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Speaker 1: represent about the show's voice of the identity I was.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of thinking about when I came to

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Speaker 4: my own, like when I started thinking for myself, making

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Speaker 4: my own decisions and started real young. I was like eleven,

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Speaker 4: when my folks had split up. My mom actually moved

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Speaker 4: to Atlanta, and we started in women to North Carolina

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Speaker 4: with our dad, and Passa's like, look, bro y'all, Mama

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Speaker 4: grond I got to pick up another job.

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Speaker 3: Grits, gris and eggs. That's to go to all the time.

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Speaker 3: It's always gonna be on there. Learn how to.

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Speaker 4: Cook that you can take care of yourself twice a week.

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Speaker 4: Come throw us pot of spaghetti in there. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You good?

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Speaker 7: When you're doing cultural commentary, right, and both of y'all

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Speaker 6: To what you need to get to.

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Speaker 9: We can go for hours and hours about different different

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Speaker 3: Brother, don't even know what we're gonna talk about. I

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Speaker 4: And it's like, but I know him, you know what

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He got a different perspective on a lot of things too,

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Speaker 4: but it's the ideology is a line, so you know

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Speaker 3: Progressive to like beerate each other.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of people think that that's the way

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Speaker 4: If you start empathy, I love, it's like people don't

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Speaker 3: I don't need no hood. This is what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: So Cat, you don't even be knowing what he gonna

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Speaker 1: He got on the Satan mask with a shoot on.

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Speaker 9: You ready, I said, YOA come on, nigga, come downstairs

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Speaker 9: I know what kind of episode is going to be.

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Speaker 3: I already know what the sponsors to go be. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But that's the type of ship

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Speaker 9: If somebody say something online, like they try to counsel

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Speaker 3: To cancel you and they listen to react, no listen

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Speaker 7: I think it's because a lot of people are gonna

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean systemically free thought come with big punishment,

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I ain't tripping on that.

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Speaker 4: Like if we're not gonna say, I mean, what's the

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Speaker 4: But we got like stract stances on what we not advertising,

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Speaker 4: What I'm changing it up for, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: I ain't really I ain't scared to talk about now

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Speaker 3: I don't own the apps, bro, I own it.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, Okay, if I see people constantly getting

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Speaker 3: You're playing in the fields you're in like on none

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Speaker 4: So if I see them punishing folks, let's go somewhere

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Speaker 1: But you know, what you just talked about is making

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Speaker 1: You just make the choice. You make choice, the choice, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the rule. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: But you sign the rules.

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Speaker 1: Don't come from the rules. The backlash ain't gonna come.

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Speaker 3: From corporate No, you know what I mean, It's not

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Speaker 1: I go on Fox News and I talk about Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: You can't just say I don't like that you cancel.

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Speaker 3: You don't control my life.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we have a conversation. Well, we don't understand

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Speaker 4: For sure, because we also don't understand like what freedom

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, in three days you don't even

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Speaker 4: And this this is messed up person, hard career regardless,

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Speaker 3: A very lucative career. I ain't agree with.

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Speaker 4: I think, I think you need a diversity of thought.

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Speaker 4: And that doesn't find the community too, but also too,

440
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Speaker 4: It's like why they kicking it like that? If you're

441
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Speaker 4: not basing no facts, I really don't want to hear it,

442
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Speaker 4: but it's being said, so we need to know it's

443
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Speaker 4: being said about it, you know what I'm saying.

444
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Speaker 7: Has there been anybody that has reached out to y'all

445
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Speaker 7: to come onto the podcast to debate some of y'all

446
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,119
Speaker 7: thought that.

447
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 6: You're like, nah, this is harmful. We don't want to

448
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Speaker 6: have this conversation.

449
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Speaker 4: No, never, because I ain't debating ugh, but debates on

450
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Speaker 4: change minds. It's just we just having a pisson context.

451
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Speaker 4: I'm cool on that. You know what I'm saying. You

452
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Speaker 4: can stitch a video and do your thing.

453
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Speaker 1: I ain't baiting they said you debate your Piers everybody

454
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Speaker 1: else you teach you did.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of people come on the show man like, no,

456
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Speaker 3: we ain't doing that. Really ain't doing that, Noah.

457
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Speaker 9: I mean if on the line with it, if you

458
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Speaker 9: don't like it, like if you don't want to funk

459
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Speaker 9: with it, if he don't rock with it, it's like,

460
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Speaker 9: we ain't doing that, you know.

461
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 9: He also said, like people have been reaching out to

463
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Speaker 9: us for a bag for one. We don't do no

464
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Speaker 9: gambling if you won't do no DIC pills. So we

465
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Speaker 9: always talk to.

466
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Speaker 3: No mail enhancement.

467
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, it's the reasons reason for this,

468
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that'd be offering to you know,

469
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Speaker 4: but I'd be like, and if they answers again, everybody

470
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Speaker 4: getting fired because I already said no. So it's like

471
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Speaker 4: the thing is you know, big care Bro, Like this

472
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Speaker 4: is my dog, Bro, I'd be cool, like I don't

473
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Speaker 4: really we we we wanted a few shows where people

474
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Speaker 4: would prefer for us to have the solid episode anytime

475
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Speaker 4: we drop I guess on Wednesdays, Like Wednesdays is our

476
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 4: Sollo slot. We didn't have our guests for the longest.

477
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Speaker 4: He ain't even our camera, you know what I'm saying.

478
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Speaker 4: So I'm for a facing. We don't drop Wednesday episodes.

479
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 4: They like, yeah, that's cute now, but you can give

480
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Speaker 4: that another thing. Wednesday is our day. We're doing the

481
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Speaker 4: knowledge on Wednesdays. So I mean, now we got to

482
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Speaker 4: guess episodes. But if you're not hip to who I am,

483
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Speaker 4: I'm not hip to what you do. I'm not like

484
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Speaker 4: a marketing company, bro the promo. Are we here to

485
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Speaker 4: have a conversation. I don't know who you is.

486
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Speaker 2: I think it's good. I think it's good because sometimes

487
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 2: we get stuck in our own chamber, right, but we

488
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on or see what's going on.

489
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Speaker 2: Like her brother listens to you all the time. He

490
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Speaker 2: listens from a different perspective, for sure, So I watch

491
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Speaker 2: you from a different perspective. I watch you from the

492
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Speaker 2: clips because I don't have time to watch full episode.

493
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Speaker 2: But it's sometimes it's putting on people that might not

494
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Speaker 2: know who you are, but be like, damn, that's a

495
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Speaker 2: small brother. Those are small brothers. Let me let me

496
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Speaker 2: check them out, you know what I mean?

497
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I say this, I took my strategy when

498
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Speaker 4: it comes to guests. It's kind of like the Joe

499
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Speaker 4: Rugan strategy. I like to take people that is in

500
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Speaker 4: feels like we just interview a black extra physicists, uh

501
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 4: black like psychologists. We interviewed quite a few, like therapists.

502
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 4: I'm pulling from different schools of thought. But it ain't

503
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: really necessarily about your following or nothing like that. It's

504
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 4: like if I like what you're talking about, or if

505
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Speaker 4: it's out of my range of capability, Like I don't

506
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 4: know nothing about astrophysics, for really, he do, and somebody

507
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 4: listening might be interested in this, or their child might

508
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: watch it, like people watch our show with their children.

509
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 4: So it's like this might send him on the career path.

510
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Speaker 4: But I'm also like, I got like some little nerdy

511
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 4: questions to ask you, bro, and you you the professional,

512
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 4: You the expert. I'm gonna gonna ask you, But I

513
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 4: think we need to see like a spectrum of black thought,

514
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: and it ain't always got to be black radical thoughts.

515
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just pure education. Sometimes it's just these are feels.

516
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Speaker 4: We don't know what people in We gonna interview a

517
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Speaker 4: marine biologists top of twenty twenty six. It's like, I

518
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 4: just want to see, like see blackness in this full thing,

519
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 4: this monolift that we got.

520
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Speaker 3: But that's dope, you know what I'm saying.

521
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Speaker 1: It's always been all model here, same thing. Bring everybody,

522
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Speaker 1: anybody with an area of expertise, you know, especially black people.

523
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Speaker 1: You know, let's why not why not give them a platform.

524
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Speaker 2: That kid's mind, you know what, I want to try that.

525
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: Let me look look that up in school, Let me

526
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Speaker 2: do my homework on that, which sometimes we don't get.

527
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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all have y'all lover caught y'allself like in the moment,

528
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Speaker 4: like shout of here's wildent y'all. Don't y'all like like

529
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Speaker 4: where you like kind of freezer, like what's like because

530
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Speaker 4: you can see where people I don't know about you you.

531
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Speaker 3: Take it up with them.

532
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Speaker 4: But like I think sometimes I know when people coming

533
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Speaker 4: because they want to like, oh, this would be good,

534
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Speaker 4: like I can get some clips or whatever. It's like,

535
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Speaker 4: I don't went down your pathg ain't talk about for

536
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Speaker 4: real cool on that. You know what I'm saying. It's

537
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: plenty of folks you can talk to and the following

538
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: really doesn't matter. It's like, is this gonna be like

539
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Speaker 4: not benefit me, but like benefit the audience. It's gonna

540
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Speaker 4: add anything. Is we're gonna be able to have a

541
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Speaker 4: real conversation or you just want to come up here

542
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Speaker 4: so you can disagree with me in front of everybody.

543
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Speaker 1: Cool, But you know what, y'all learning of very a

544
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: very good part of your skill set because when women

545
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: used to always tell me, you're only gonna interview somebody

546
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Speaker 1: like jay Z wants right, though you might interview Rihanna

547
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Beyonce wants right. They come to listen to you every

548
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: single day. So it's the same thing with y'all. With

549
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: the podcast, right, people want to hear from y'all to

550
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: every single episode that I know I can stand on right.

551
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Speaker 1: Everything else is gravy.

552
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels good to have established it ourselves without

553
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Speaker 4: like we were not like formerly media trained or even

554
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 4: in entertainment, like we kind of grassroots came up. TikTok

555
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 4: is a great platform for like the everyday person to

556
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Speaker 4: kind of voice their opinion and perspective. And you know,

557
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Speaker 4: I'm just grateful that people right with me in the

558
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Speaker 4: way they do, like, because I don't think that everything

559
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Speaker 4: got to be a situation where people are placed in

560
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Speaker 4: front of you by corporations or entities or you know,

561
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Speaker 4: I've been grinding ten years and I just pivoted to this.

562
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Speaker 4: It's like, bro, I'm in truck, I just like you.

563
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Every day, I'm working sixty

564
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Speaker 4: hours a week. I'm taking care of my babies. You

565
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, but also out of mind and

566
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 4: perspective on things too that I feel like it's valuable

567
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 4: to the conversation.

568
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Speaker 1: And those my favorite podcast stories, and I know that,

569
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of rappers and athletes and

570
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: celebrities that get into the podcast get my favorite podcast

571
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Speaker 1: stories of people like yourselves and to read and Mandy

572
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: and Wheezy, people who weren't weren't in media at all,

573
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Speaker 1: like doing corporate jobs, driving trucks and decided know it,

574
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Speaker 1: I got something to say, I want to tell my

575
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Speaker 1: unique story and then people gravitate towards it. To me,

576
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Speaker 1: that's what the essence of podcasting is about.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a bit on yourself for sure. Yeah

578
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Speaker 3: for sure.

579
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Speaker 5: So earlier you said you don't talk about surface level ship,

580
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Speaker 5: you know, none of the little hanging through. But what's

581
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Speaker 5: a cultural moment right that it's taking place? And you've

582
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Speaker 5: seen online that you felt like absolutely needed a Grits

583
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Speaker 5: and Eggs tape.

584
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

585
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like we talk about everything. The pumpy

586
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Speaker 4: shit was good, I said, yeah, you know, I think

587
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Speaker 4: the most recent thing we kind of like fuzz being

588
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Speaker 4: it's like the whole like Rory in my situation of

589
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 4: the tweets, but it's just like I just be thinking,

590
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 4: like that fun and like, hey bro pack it up,

591
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it's cool because we're

592
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: kind of in this podcast space, like on some fun

593
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 4: friendly stuff like yeah, get up out of the way,

594
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 4: like we're making way for ourselves. But like cultural moments,

595
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 4: they come and go. If it's too much conversation about

596
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: it on social media, I don't really feel like I

597
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: could add that to it. If I don't feel like

598
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: I could add that if I've got a fresh perspective. Man,

599
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Speaker 4: I'm cool on it because it's like, like I said,

600
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Speaker 4: we just regard to having the same thing. If people

601
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Speaker 4: ask me what my opinion on stuff, and I know

602
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: a creator that has like a point in opinion, I'll

603
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Speaker 4: be like, go watch them got you know what I'm saying.

604
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Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know what makes you all

605
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: successful with y'all got a mission baked in to y'all podcast.

606
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Speaker 1: At least that's what I feel when for sure, So

607
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Speaker 1: what's the what do you think the intentional through line

608
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Speaker 1: behind your conversations is?

609
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Speaker 6: I think you click something yeah, sure.

610
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Speaker 3: And you AI D I T.

611
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Speaker 8: We'll stop talking for we got got just like that.

612
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Speaker 1: But what do you think the intentional through line behind

613
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Speaker 1: your conversation?

614
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Speaker 4: I think, for one, I know I can't change nobody's mind,

615
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: but I can change that perspective, right. I think that

616
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 4: the big overarching thing is like liberation, you know what

617
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And liberation outside of the system, liberation outside

618
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Speaker 4: of the way you're thinking, liberation for black people, like

619
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Speaker 4: and then it's going to expand of course to like

620
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Speaker 4: all people of color, all poor people, all people that

621
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Speaker 4: face oppression. But I think for more than anything, it's

622
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Speaker 4: like we cifle through, We cycle through a lot of

623
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Speaker 4: talking points, saying the same ship over and over, and

624
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Speaker 4: it's never really a situation where I'm trying to help

625
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Speaker 4: somebody grow. It's just like a lot of people are

626
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Speaker 4: just happy, like, yeah, I don't think like that, but

627
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 4: you do. So I'm smart, you're dumb, I'm rich, you're poor,

628
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: all these different things. Like I got to like tip

629
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: the scales like that, Really we can leave opportunity for

630
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Speaker 4: everybody to grow. And a lot of people don't want

631
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 4: to see other girls for whatever reason. But for me,

632
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: it's like I come from blue collar work, Bro. I

633
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: know how many brilliant people is out here in the

634
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 4: world that don't even have social media. And then I

635
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: also know there's a lot of brilliant people that can

636
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 4: add the conversations that can help us grow and help

637
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 4: us see things in a different way because a lot

638
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 4: of times, like I said, we live in these echo

639
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 4: chambers where we kind of constantly get in the same

640
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: feedback loops, and a lot of the issues be with

641
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: self esteem, bro, And like we just it's very easy

642
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: to tear each other down, And I think that's the

643
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: route that people take, Like it was, like, you know,

644
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Speaker 4: it takes a lot more to care about somebody than

645
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Speaker 4: it do to like, you know, just like cut them

646
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Speaker 4: deep and just be like that's the easy thing to do.

647
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Speaker 4: A lot of us grow up in households where that's

648
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Speaker 4: the play, like cut you down real quick.

649
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Speaker 3: But I don't.

650
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Speaker 4: I want us to actually like be willing to express

651
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Speaker 4: a love and care for one another publicly.

652
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, how do you avoid that noise?

653
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: Because you know, with a lot of time with podcasts,

654
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: anybody in the public, right you do it for the

655
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: right reason mostiple anger say everybody does, but most people

656
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: want to do it for the right reason. They want

657
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: to help and they realize the people that they're trying

658
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: to help somehow some way. Terms right, it could be

659
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: another podcast, there could be another personality. How do you

660
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: deal with that where you feel like it's it's not

661
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: a mental thing and you keep going through it and

662
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: don't let that ball do you affect you and that

663
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: of your day?

664
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Speaker 4: I think that first it's just being honest about it

665
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 4: that they do about it, you know what I'm saying,

666
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: Like it don't feel good to be taught about negatively,

667
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: especially by multitude of people, and to feel misunderstood in

668
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 4: the midst of that too. So I can acknowledge the feeling,

669
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: but I don't got to defend it. I can back

670
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: up a little bit, like maybe I was wrong, maybe

671
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: I did say something that miss the mark. But at

672
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: the same time too, it's like, sometimes you gotta put

673
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: that phone down, bro, like in a real way, just

674
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: put the phone down, like gone about your day, and like,

675
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: you know, I got kids. I like can't spend all

676
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: day arguing with fouls online. My baby hunger and like that.

677
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: It can pin a bun of jail time. So hold on,

678
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: let me respond to this real quick. Got me messed up, like.

679
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm not now you got the kid?

680
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

681
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: Up?

682
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: Like bro, bro, this man tripping bro.

683
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, you got to live your

684
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 4: real life too, I think I don't you know.

685
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: Social media.

686
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: Social media can be affirming, it could be very validating

687
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: at times, and I also tear you down. So it's

688
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: like just find the balance and all of it. It's

689
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: like I take the good just like I take the bad,

690
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Because if you get caught

691
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: up in it. It'll people people.

692
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: Having mental breaks, Like people be breaking mentally because my dad, my.

693
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Daddy, you said, you never as good as they say

694
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: you are, You never as bad as they say exactly.

695
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: And one of my radio mentors and Cadillac Jack, he

696
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: would say, the rule of ten, three people go agree

697
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: with you when you say something. Three people will not

698
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: go agree with you. Four people don't even know what

699
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: the fun going on.

700
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I keeping you speak about like how people

701
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: get certain things from growing up in their household.

702
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 6: Do you ever talk about yours? Do you ever talk

703
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 6: about yours?

704
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

705
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: For sure.

706
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: The birth for the Grisons is out of that. Like

707
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: when my focks split up that joint, it changed a

708
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: lot in me because when you in the household with

709
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: people that like really can't stand each other, but they trying.

710
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: To keep it together for the kids.

711
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: It's like it informed me so much, like, oh, they

712
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: don't think we're paying attention for real, or they don't

713
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: think we could feel like it's tension in here. So

714
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: I think a lot of that stuff in front of you,

715
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: making hyper vision it. So then it gets to a

716
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: position where like when I'm with my parts, I could

717
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: do whatever I want because he and her, and then

718
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: when I go with my mama, she's super strict. Now

719
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: I gotta find a balance and I'm bucking too, like,

720
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: but you got me missed up. Like I literally just

721
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: came from a situation where I'm out til one in

722
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: the morning because my parts, like he get off work,

723
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: he do bouncing that nightclub.

724
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: He get home like two o'clock, but he got the car.

725
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: The car so loud, like squeaking.

726
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: Wise, as long as I'm within eyeshot of the crib,

727
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: I can hear him coming like from the front of

728
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: the neighborhood, like all right, y'all boy, y'all here the man.

729
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: We're in the house. And then I'm in the house

730
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: like that, Yeah, what's up? That happened?

731
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, I think the truth is

732
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: is like as vulnerable as I am about my situation

733
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: and everything, the thing that I realized is like, once

734
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: you push through like the kind of anxiety about exposing

735
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: yourself just being honest about your experience, you realize how

736
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: many people that went through it too, So you're really

737
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: actually helping people because they don't feel alone. So you know,

738
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: we don't talk about several things. I think the biggest thing,

739
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: the hardest thing for me to kind of come forward

740
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: was like you know, dealing with sexual saldy as a

741
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: child and stuff like that. But so many men came

742
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: out like, bro, if you hear stories about how men

743
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: lose Dave Virginity's crazy.

744
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: I was eight.

745
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, eight years old, and it's like it's

746
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: a babysitter. You can't even say nothing. But it's like

747
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: if we if we start looking tour.

748
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 1: They like to laugh about I'm not laugh when it's

749
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: a guy.

750
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Deonce, we do not laugh.

751
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 5: He just said that his abuser head a Jerry Kill

752
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: and I didn't like the.

753
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Smell that's mine. I made her quick that man, you.

754
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, because he like so if she

755
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: had a swoop on the side, made her quick.

756
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: Where the joke come in?

757
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: We don't laugh, no, man. When I was young, that's

758
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: what I told myself. I made her stop doing it

759
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: because I didn't like to smell her Jerry.

760
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

761
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: Reality is I made her stop doing it because it

762
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: needs Yeah, you're.

763
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: Being, yeah, but having the conversations like what we're gonna

764
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: lose by being I think a lot of times it's

765
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: like I just faking the funt like you everybody Okay,

766
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: you know you ever hear folks say that like I

767
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: got whooped and I turned off. You didn't actually didn't

768
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: this morning. You know what I'm saying, I'm scared eating?

769
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: Why did you streaming?

770
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: But but they all right, is I don't talk about it.

771
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: So if I don't talk about it, I finally acknowledge it,

772
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: then it can't be bothered.

773
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: And you know, like we.

774
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: Talked about this the whole situation, like around food, Like

775
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: when you grow up poor, it's like you got to

776
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: eat everything on the plate. So then when you got

777
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: adults out here, like why you eating a triple cheeseburgers

778
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: because like they stomach just expanded. They be eating theyself

779
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: to death since they was eight seven to eight years

780
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: old because they folks just couldn't afford food.

781
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: So it's like can't waste food. You know what I'm saying.

782
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: It's a lot of stuff that type out that our childhood.

783
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: You know, therapy it helps you like recognize some of

784
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: them stuff too. So when you kind of start unpacking

785
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: your childhood, you just wonder how many people ain't unpacking.

786
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Their because everything when you I saw I see you

787
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: on your journey, and I see that you started going

788
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: to therapy. One thing therapy is gonna teach you that

789
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: every single thing that you're dealing with as an adult

790
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: is directly connected to something that happened to you as

791
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: a child. And you spend so much time as an

792
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: adult trying to heal that little traumatized little boy.

793
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: Man that fruit front the roof, bro.

794
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: So whatever fruit you're putting out, it got a root

795
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: that it started there. And I think acknowledging that, I

796
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: think one of the most five bars my therapist ever dropped.

797
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: He was like, a perfection starts at inception, So if

798
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: you ever made a mistake, you ain't perfect.

799
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: So she stopped trying to be perfect.

800
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: You know, I was like cold, I would make mistakes

801
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: at seven.

802
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: Well I'm trying to be perfect.

803
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: I can't be perfect.

804
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: No, mom, He's like, you missed one shot in the

805
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: beginning of the game. You can make all the rest

806
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: of them. It's still ain't one hundred percent. You ain't perfect.

807
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: So you know, taking that with me too, and then

808
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: just not if I put it out there, how well

809
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: it's been received.

810
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: It kind of takes the stigma and the fear away

811
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: from it.

812
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: From not only me, but for other people too, and

813
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: it's like, that's really the girl for real because everybody

814
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: can't afford therapy. What mean you start going, yeah, bro,

815
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: this jump started again becoming a lot because dealing with

816
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: all this notoriety it pull you in several different directions.

817
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: Then start realizing like now I ain't got as much

818
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: time as I used to and where I used to

819
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: unpack these thoughts late at night, it's like, well, I'm

820
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: thinking about something I did when I was thirteen, and

821
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: I got to show tomorrow and I got this interview

822
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: and damn, I double schedule the studio session and I

823
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: got to like cancel on something, and it's like, damn, bro,

824
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: I need somewhere to put this and I don't want

825
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: to put it on somebody. I can't just put my dog,

826
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: like everything on my partner. Yeah, that's crazy. And the

827
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: day he got stuff he dealing with too, and it's like, well,

828
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: there are professionals out here that deal with this. It's

829
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 4: like and too, you have been like champion in therapy

830
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: for black Man for a long time, so you know,

831
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: I was like you look too. Situations like That're like okay, well,

832
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: Charlott mane be telling you go therapy, let me go

833
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: see what he fuk talking about. And I got a

834
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: black male therapist too, so it's like, you know, I

835
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: think it's also too important to be an example in

836
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: that space. Like it's okay, you take the stick my way.

837
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 4: We don't be trusting doctors. That's we got good reason

838
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: behind it. But get your mind right, like, get your

839
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 4: mind right for real, because if you don't get your

840
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: mind right in this space where you're sharing a lot

841
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: of your mind, you're gonna lose your mind.

842
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: Is your therapist culturally competent? You know?

843
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's from Northfolk, Virginia.

844
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 7: Okay, do you talk to your therapists about certain things

845
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 7: you decide to divoge on your podcast or TikTok or

846
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 7: whatever first before you do it?

847
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh nah, man, we'll be talking about me.

848
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: Okay, really you know what I'm saying, Like the stuff

849
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: I won't share because it's like you got to keep

850
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: stuff for yourself too, you can't get folks.

851
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: But then also to.

852
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: Some stuff you know, you know, I got my own

853
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 4: shortcomings and perfections too that I want to work through

854
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: and like as I grow in this space, like it's

855
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: great to boom and have a great career. But like

856
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: if you stay routed in the same mentality or you

857
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: keep packing stuff away, you know, that's where you see

858
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: people crash out because he was like, dangn brother, just

859
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: snap one day. But it's like he been dealing with

860
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: all the pressures of being a provider, making all the

861
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: money and holding up this image and stuff like that.

862
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 4: A lot of this stuff do come with, like having

863
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: a reputation, being reputable, being trustworthy, being a.

864
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: Source of truth.

865
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: You know, that come with pressure too because you want

866
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 4: to maintain the integrity of the stuff too. But then

867
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: you slipping in other parts of your life, that ship

868
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: are gonna compound it be a rout for you.

869
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: That's what about you?

870
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: What's your childhood?

871
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 8: Childhood?

872
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: I had this lit childhood. I ain't going out to.

873
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: You cool your trauma.

874
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 3: T I don't have trauma.

875
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 9: But as far as like overall my childhood, like my

876
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 9: parents gave me a great childhood. My dad did this

877
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 9: thing in the streets, went to prison. So that's like

878
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 9: how where my trauma come from? Because I never I

879
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 9: like always said, no matter how broke, I am ain't

880
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 9: gonna see on no drugs because being in the call

881
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 9: when you were a kid and driving through the middle

882
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 9: of know where to go to a prison. That should

883
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 9: do something to you, you know what I'm saying, Because

884
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 9: then I had to leave my dad. That's my dog nowhere, Yeah,

885
00:36:51,080 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 9: in the middle of nowhere. But but yeah, so like

886
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 9: just seeing that and like going to a prison and

887
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 9: seeing my dad have to these white people talking to

888
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 9: my dad crazy, like getting in line and do this ship.

889
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 9: That is where my trauma come from. So I always said,

890
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 9: I never put my woman on my kid.

891
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: Do that, you know what I'm saying.

892
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 9: So, like I said, no matter how broke I am,

893
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 9: I'd be thinking about it, like now, well I can

894
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 9: get off of brick right now, yep. But then the

895
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 9: other part of it, I've seen the other part of

896
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 9: a lot of people don't talk about that. They just

897
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 9: talk about, yeah, my dad was this in the street.

898
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 9: But do you ever go see your dad in prison?

899
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: That shit crazy?

900
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 9: So yeah, that's that's That's the only thing traumba for

901
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 9: my childhood. But other than that, everything I wanted.

902
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: And y'all met early, y'all met, Like we're saying that

903
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: about your father. You know, there was this whole thing

904
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: with Mike Capsta. Think about it last week when they

905
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: was like mad at him because he said you shouldn't

906
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: celebrate people when the home out of prison. What y'all

907
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: thought about that?

908
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 9: I mean, we say this all the time. People who

909
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 9: get celebrated coming out of prison. We celebrate them more

910
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 9: than people that come home from college. You know what

911
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 9: I'm saying. Naw, you shouldn't really get celebrated because you

912
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 9: can't hold a prison. But were happy to see you, you.

913
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

914
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 9: But also your cousin in college, you're struggling to eat

915
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 9: every night. We gotta get him that money. You in jail.

916
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: You know, of course we gonna help you when we can,

917
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: but ship you need to help too.

918
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: More do you do?

919
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 9: But when you come home, we go celebrate you, But

920
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 9: we should also celebrate you know, the cousin that's coming

921
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 9: home from college that just graduated.

922
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 3: And in our community, I think we don't see that enough.

923
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 9: And I think, like, you know, that's that's like a

924
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 9: big thing in our community, celebrating people that come from jail.

925
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 9: Because go ahead, bay stress, because yeah, because like we

926
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 9: see that more in our community, people going to jail

927
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 9: then people going to college. And it's like, you know,

928
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 9: how can we relate? So when you get somebody to

929
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 9: go to college, it's like, all right, well you're home

930
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 9: now that.

931
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: What he's supposed to do.

932
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 9: What about the person that went to jail what they

933
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 9: were supposed to do? Yeah, so come home, get in line,

934
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 9: get that job, get that trade. We go help you out.

935
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: We ain't even throw no bigg ass party.

936
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: For you at your kids? Right, How does the trauma

937
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: that that you had as a child affect how you

938
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: raise your kids?

939
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: Man, bro, I already know that I'm just not gonna

940
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: get everything right when you get out of your.

941
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: Man.

942
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: Look, man, the lder you get, the more like you

943
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: just understand your parents With people, I honestly, when I

944
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: make a mistake, I apologize to my children, like directly,

945
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: straight up. I love on my kids lot because ween't

946
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: come from a very effictionate household. I'm thinking, do you

947
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: know I don't remember. I know I was in teenage

948
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: years and like kind of cutting up before my folks.

949
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 4: It was like vocally said I love you.

950
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

951
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: So I kind of killed the superman early with them, Like, look, bro,

952
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: I make mistakes, I mess up. I'm not perfect. You're

953
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: not perfect. You're not gonna be perfect.

954
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: But that doesn't kill a superman because they still think

955
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: thatad he's Superman.

956
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm talking about that fiction is like, you know,

957
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: I used to think my parents knew everything. Bro y'all

958
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 4: was winging it brou because like it be times where

959
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm fucking winging. I'm winging it right now.

960
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: I don't got it figured out, you know what I'm saying.

961
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, it's a little Caesars. That's what I

962
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: got on me right now. It's not like but and

963
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: I want you want to dress it up like it's

964
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 4: a piece of party. It's like, nah, we broke because

965
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: that's where we are with it. We messed up. We're

966
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: gonna get two pieces for a little Caesars, you know

967
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We're gonna rock out, eat it while

968
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: it's hot, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, But I

969
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: think more than anything, it's like you just try to

970
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: minimize it. Like for the most part, I'm gonna take

971
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: everything from my parents that I feel like they did

972
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: right and in part of their wisdom to my children

973
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: because it worked for me and things I feel like

974
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: they did wrong. I don't think we gotta demonize it,

975
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 4: but just learn from it. Why did they think like that?

976
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: That's the understanding why they did the day?

977
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

978
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean like sometimes I look back at my dad

979
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: and I would hate when it's like you got to

980
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: be home with this time. You can't go there now

981
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: when I got kids, I'm.

982
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: Like, that's why you said it.

983
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: Now you can't go there. But the difference is, I explain,

984
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: as I said, so you just took it.

985
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 5: Asked why, well I couldn't. Why you know what I mean,

986
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 5: that's because she couldn't. Right, You look at that as

987
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: a form of disrespect, like you are you questioning my judgment?

988
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 6: Is like, yeah, I am.

989
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: And when and when did that start with black people?

990
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: Well, we couldn't question that, so we carry that into

991
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: our households and we just got to continue, you know,

992
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 4: Like I get the idea of breaking generational curses is cool,

993
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: but it's like I ain't gonna say my fault cursed me.

994
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: I think we just we're healing generation by generation. We

995
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: come from a rough beginning in this country, and that

996
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 4: stuff staying on a on a genetic level of staying.

997
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: So I think more than anything. I try to recognize, Like.

998
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 4: When I'm repeating some of those behaviors too, I try

999
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: not to, like try to be slow to anger. But

1000
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 4: you don't get it right all the time. Sometimes kids

1001
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 4: be tripping, like they do.

1002
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: What's with you?

1003
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Like that?

1004
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You try, But I think

1005
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: the same thing too, is like you just got to

1006
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: take the ego out of these people. They little people.

1007
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: They don't know.

1008
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: I used to say no for no reason.

1009
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: You do not get to know.

1010
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: Why did you say.

1011
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: Because you can because because that's what you used to

1012
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: You just used to know, just like and then it's

1013
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: like to my point, it's like your parents don't tell you,

1014
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 4: like what the finance situation is, and then like you

1015
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: gotta ask your mama, Like, bro, you know the Dreamcast

1016
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: came out, get the face, like.

1017
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, but you put more pressure on it though I

1018
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 9: just seen I just seen the commercial.

1019
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know what you're going through.

1020
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: But that's really about to say.

1021
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 9: You just put more pressure on on your parents at

1022
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 9: that point because they don't they don't know how to

1023
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 9: say like I ain't got it, I ain't got it

1024
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 9: because they want and they eyes they wanted you to

1025
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 9: look at them like they got everything. They can provide

1026
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 9: everything for you. And sometimes been telling myself like, brother,

1027
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 9: I ain't got it right now. Brom'st in sixteen, so

1028
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 9: I'll be like ship Bro sometimes and he was loving

1029
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 9: b I ain't got that shit right now now a little.

1030
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: Bit, you know what I'm saying.

1031
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: But one reason that we are head of the curve

1032
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: is because we not afraid to tell our kids our stories. Man,

1033
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: We're not afraid. When I started to, you know, go

1034
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: to therapy and start talking about my mental health issue,

1035
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: That's what my dad opened up to me. I ain't

1036
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: know my dad was on ten to twelve different medications

1037
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: for his mental health. I didn't know he tried to

1038
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: commit suicide. I didn't know he was going through a

1039
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: therapist two and three times a week. But when he

1040
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: told me that, man, I give it just made me

1041
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: give him all the grace in the world come like

1042
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: he was just a man trying to figure it out.

1043
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 1: Like I'm a man trying to figure it out, right,

1044
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: But it's just good to tell our kids our stories.

1045
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even with your or the faults, like you

1046
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: can extend grace tong once you learn that story.

1047
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: Some people ain't gonna change.

1048
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 4: I think a situation like we kind of grow up

1049
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 4: in this situation where we ready to cut everybody off

1050
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: of everything. We got enough contact with everybody. That's an

1051
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: avoidant style of dealing with stuff too. I'd rather just

1052
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: get you out my life. But I also understand on

1053
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: the other side of that, it's like, man, you can't

1054
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: just gonna be disrespecting me. You know what I'm saying.

1055
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: You're gonna recognize me as a girl and human too.

1056
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: And I understand a void like like just giving folk

1057
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: space when you realize they ag ready to grow so

1058
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: you can continue to grow too. Cause like trying to

1059
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: change somebody's mind, bro, that's the hardest thing. That's hard

1060
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: to change your ownline about stuff.

1061
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't deal with the person that hadn't recognized

1062
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: your growth on me. Ain't even just your family, just

1063
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: anybody in general. Like I'm sure y'all got people from

1064
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: high school. That's like still trying to talk to y'all,

1065
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: like y'all haven't grown and who y'all are now? You

1066
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1067
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: If you calling me from high school, you're STI talking

1068
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: about it in high school. I don't want to talk

1069
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: to you. Yeah, I don't want to kick it, which

1070
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: you can chop that bro.

1071
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 5: Even going back to what you said Kat, just now,

1072
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: you were talking about having a child and you're saying

1073
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: just no because you can, and then you're putting the

1074
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: pressure on. Yeah, you were talking about putting the pressure

1075
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: on the parent because you know they ain't got it.

1076
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 5: They don't know how to say it.

1077
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Now.

1078
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 5: My sons seeing the best of both worlds because I

1079
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 5: didn't always have it right and now I do, you know,

1080
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: and been having it right. But I still don't like

1081
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: to you just give him because we got it now,

1082
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

1083
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Like what are your thoughts on that?

1084
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: Because some people bought out of control all the time

1085
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 5: because they got it now and they didn't have it before.

1086
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 5: But I want my son, I want ask them to

1087
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: be open minded. I don't want him to be entitled.

1088
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 5: I don't it's certain things I don't want him, oh

1089
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: just because my mother got this, oh you know, and they're.

1090
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: Just a black experience. Yeah, I don't like to.

1091
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Give him everything he asked. So like the christ if

1092
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: you saw this Christmas list, but.

1093
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 9: Sid, your son can't from trugtle with you though, like

1094
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 9: we've seen your son grow up with you, you know what

1095
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 9: I'm saying. That's amazing too, though, But you know, it's

1096
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 9: just you have to balance it out.

1097
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 5: But I ain't get him everything on the Christmas list.

1098
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: It's wrong for them.

1099
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 9: I'm not getting no because you got to teach him

1100
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 9: like some shit you got to earn.

1101
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: Some shit can be given. Some shing you gotta earn.

1102
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You can't give him everything.

1103
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 9: If you give a person everything, they feel entired, like,

1104
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 9: oh shit, I can get it whatever I want to get.

1105
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 5: And I have no complaints. I'm talking about straight a.

1106
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 5: My son smart as a mom like me, you know, but.

1107
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: I would say he's smarter, but that's that's good. Supposed

1108
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: to be smarter than.

1109
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be smarter.

1110
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: My son is smart.

1111
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 5: But even still, I have no problem out of my kid.

1112
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 5: But still it's just something about getting him everything that

1113
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 5: he asks for when he asks for it. I have

1114
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 5: no issues with my son. I just still don't want

1115
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 5: to do that getting every single thing.

1116
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: No, we should.

1117
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 9: We should be able to spoil our children, you know,

1118
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 9: because the other side spoil their children, you know what

1119
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 9: I'm saying.

1120
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1121
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 9: But the other side, you know, they had to look,

1122
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 9: you know, can't tell me nothing. We come from a

1123
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 9: place where you know, a lot of us came from

1124
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 9: humble beginnings. So we ain't always have everything, you know

1125
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. So that's that's that's where it comes from.

1126
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 9: It's like a mental thing like I don't want to

1127
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 9: give everything because ship I ain't have everything, but my

1128
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 9: mom did try to give me what she could. But

1129
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 9: you can give them what you what you want. And

1130
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 9: that's a difference, and I think it's way your struggle.

1131
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 2: But you know, on the other end of that, because

1132
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: I go back and forth about this, A lot of

1133
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: parents when they die, they give their kids something right,

1134
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: and I never wanted that to be me. I want

1135
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: to see my parents enjoy. I want to see me

1136
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: my kids enjoy what I work hard, like, I want

1137
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: to see it. I don't want to give it to

1138
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: them when they die. I want to see it. And

1139
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: then on another thing, I always say, we work hard sometimes,

1140
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: but we want our kids to struggle, and I don't

1141
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: want I didn't want that to be my kids. I

1142
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: want them to do what they want to do, right,

1143
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 2: because at the end of the life, you realize life

1144
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: is short, right, and at the end of the day,

1145
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how much money you got, is matter.

1146
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: How happy you are.

1147
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: So if I could set your life up where you

1148
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: can do if you want to do nails, if it

1149
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: makes you happy, you're happy. I don't care.

1150
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: That's not my life.

1151
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: I just want you to be happy. You don't got

1152
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: to be a billionaire, you ain't got to be one

1153
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: hundred million yet. But if you happy making one hundred

1154
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year and you're genuinely happy, that's better

1155
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: than most people out here that's not happy that makes

1156
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: all this money. I try to set up their life

1157
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: where it's like, let me guide you, where you could

1158
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: just do what you want to do. Because as a kid,

1159
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: when I said I wanted to be a d J,

1160
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: everybody laugh like, nigga, you can't be no DJ. And

1161
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure y'all heard the same thing when y'all said,

1162
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: y'all want to do the podcast. So it's like, that's

1163
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: what I want for my kids in my family, just

1164
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: want them to be happy.

1165
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, my son wanted to be a gamer, but

1166
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 5: then I watched them and like he sucks, so it's

1167
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 5: like you can't do the game, but he's great at sports.

1168
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

1169
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: I think that real though, bro, Like you know, I

1170
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: told my kids like you, like people tell you can

1171
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 4: be anything in the world you want.

1172
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: You could be with you good at you know what

1173
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1174
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: You second, math, why are you trying to be a

1175
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: rock sized It's just like sugg Justice, know what I'm saying,

1176
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: attle Bit you're great with words, Yeah, slam.

1177
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: Poetry may be when you say that because he hates

1178
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: to see his kid slim, I'm crazy.

1179
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: It's just dramatic. That's not like anime. It's just ramatic.

1180
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: You just you the she was just yeah, we got

1181
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: something drop on her. It's not it's not that, it's

1182
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 4: just you know, like I wish that I.

1183
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: Could see.

1184
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about, just that genre and when

1185
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 4: you can see that, the d isn't for me.

1186
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: L G B T.

1187
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 3: A real breakfast club.

1188
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but keeping a balance with your kids is important

1189
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: to because I think you don't want to get to

1190
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 4: receiving And then also one of the worst things as

1191
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 4: a parent is like when you give your child something

1192
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: and you don't feel like they're grateful, like you feel

1193
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: like it's like but you got to internalize it too,

1194
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: So it's like you kind of you can't just you

1195
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: can't make somebody be grateful. But I think, you know,

1196
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: I tell my kids like it be limits on everything

1197
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: to Like my son, he get a fourteen, you know,

1198
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: like their generation is looking at like Lamping's and is

1199
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: that how you pronounce that whatever?

1200
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: Designer? They look at that like regular Degglar.

1201
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: I'm like I told him, I was like, you know

1202
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: anything that I will rock Nike, you know, Dadas whatever

1203
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: like regular Doglar. I'm with you. When you start talking

1204
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: designer that stuff, you gotta go get your own. You

1205
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: heard of that, you know what I'm saying, Like twelve hundred.

1206
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, like it got them form but ship but right, yeah,

1207
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 9: but how many hours did the airport for them get

1208
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 9: twelve niggas their port all day?

1209
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like I told my son, yeah, sixteen.

1210
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: Sixteen you bought Wow, but flying fresh.

1211
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 9: They come from my childhood though, you know what I'm saying,

1212
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 9: It's like my daddy had it like that, you know

1213
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 9: what I'm saying.

1214
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: So what I like, Shit, your.

1215
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 9: Dad wasn't working at the airport, was he was he

1216
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 9: wasn't working at the airport. But I've seen this shit.

1217
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 9: Like if I asked for it, I probably wouldn't get

1218
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 9: it that week, but I get it next week, you

1219
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying.

1220
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: So it's just like damn.

1221
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 9: In my mind is like the pressure like what I'm saying,

1222
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 9: the pressure like that, how can I keep it?

1223
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: Like my dad was a great dad, even in prison.

1224
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: My dad was a gret dad. My dad told me

1225
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: how to watch the dishes over the phone. You know

1226
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Do this, go, do that. He told

1227
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: me to cut the grays on the phone. You feel me.

1228
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: But I'll be like, damn, how can I keep it

1229
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: with my dad?

1230
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 9: I ain't got the money that my dad had to

1231
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 9: throw away, but ship, I still want to be a

1232
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 9: great dad, you know what I'm saying.

1233
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: That's why I like compete with myself.

1234
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I mean you are you already are? Yeah,

1235
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: You're a better father than your father because just being

1236
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: free physically.

1237
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: I always tell my kids that when they think I'm

1238
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 4: being hard on them, It's like, bro, I'm not focused on.

1239
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: You, the twelve year old, I'm focused on you the

1240
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: twenty two year olds.

1241
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: Real you know, you're raising it like we're raising we're

1242
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: raising children, but they're going to be a They're gonna

1243
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: function in the world, and a lot of how they

1244
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: function is gonna start from how they was in the household.

1245
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: So if they feel entitled because their mom and get

1246
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: them everything they want, that's gonna spill over the jobs,

1247
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 4: that's gonna spill over the partners, that's gonna spill over

1248
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: to so many different.

1249
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: Relationships in your life.

1250
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: It's just like keeping bound You got boundaries with your

1251
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: cheersren too, you know what I'm saying. And you allow

1252
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 4: your kids to have boundaries with you as a parent,

1253
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: you know.

1254
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: What I mean?

1255
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, speaking of parenting you uh your TikTok video about

1256
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 7: your biological mom being white, Yeah, that sparked so much

1257
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 7: like conversation around identity and like being a biracial kid

1258
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 7: and you know what made you want to share that

1259
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 7: and particalarly going through that.

1260
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: So it was just you know, you just start talking

1261
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 4: about yourself, like honestly, my mom and dad in two

1262
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: thousand nineteen, I didn't look Yeah, yeah, I didn't know.

1263
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: I didn't know I was a doctor. So I found

1264
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: out post her. I was adopted at two days old,

1265
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying. So of course that is

1266
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: gonna spark up a whole bunch of stuff around identity

1267
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: and things like that. But for me it was liberating

1268
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: because I was like, brod, I knew I went't crazy.

1269
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: Bro Yeah, we ain't all in here looking alike. You know,

1270
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 4: I'm I'm add aball out on how we looked.

1271
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 6: It was just a physical looking or did you feel

1272
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 6: away and turning?

1273
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: No?

1274
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: No, it's like it's everything. I don't think the way.

1275
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 4: It's a lot of different things, you know what I'm saying.

1276
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: But for me it was just like really, it's like

1277
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you hear it from the horse's mouth

1278
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: because it was it was all TikTok videos that was resarchcing,

1279
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: and people was like, see, he ain't no black leader,

1280
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 4: he ain't even black. It's like shouty my mom and

1281
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: daddy black. I was adopted at two days old. I

1282
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: don't even know these folks. For one, I don't know

1283
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: if these folks white or not. I don't know them.

1284
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: And only only thing I know is JUHNK. We just

1285
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 4: joke about being Scottish because I did a little ancestor

1286
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: like you know when you first time find something out

1287
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: you like, I don't know, it's like, oh, I'm thirty

1288
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: percent Scottish, I'm forty percent not gym like real, you

1289
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I'm a Scottish Nigerian. I just

1290
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: but I'm going through like my own moutions are like

1291
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: accepting it. And then I went through a lot of

1292
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: angry phases about this. But you gonna try to discredit

1293
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 4: who I am because of something you say? Hey, I

1294
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: tell you you know what I'm saying. You ain't gonna

1295
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 4: take it like you can't hear from the horse's mouth.

1296
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: It wasn't really about defending anything. It's just like noah, yeah, yeah,

1297
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 4: now what because like you ain't got this credit me Bro,

1298
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: Like it's it's it's a couple of creators.

1299
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Speaker 3: They are like, it's the men be obsessed with me.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 4: They make videos about me all day every day and

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00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: it's like yeah, and I'll be like, it's free promoting.

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00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 6: That just reacts to your content, even your old content.

1304
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's loved though, because even fake pages like bro

1305
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 4: they all promote me. My my they page is full

1306
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 4: of my face. Once they refined the real thing we live.

1307
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 4: But I think for me, it was just like clarifying,

1308
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: like this ain't nothing I'm running away from, bro. And

1309
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: that's the same time, it's like I was two days old. Bro,

1310
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 4: I don't know them people. I don't know nothing about them.

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00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 4: I don't really desire to either. Your biologic Yeah, yeah,

1312
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: well I heard stories.

1313
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1314
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 4: I really don't like even my folks don't know. My

1315
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 4: mama was swore the fuck secret. But then you find out,

1316
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 4: like your mama having warm issues and stuff like that,

1317
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: it's a miracle for her, bro to be able to

1318
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: get a baby. So it's like, yeah, Bro, I'm not

1319
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: tripping on that, you know what I mean. Like, whatever

1320
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: them folks had going on, that was their arrangement.

1321
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: I was here. My folks raised me. Well, you know

1322
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: They had their own shortcomings and stuff, but I was

1324
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 4: raising the household of love, and I learned so much

1325
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: from my household, you know what I mean. And my

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00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 4: family taught me so much. It's like, I'm not discarding

1327
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 4: that because I get some new information, you know what

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00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm already in. I'm already whole, So I

1329
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: don't really need to go looking for none. I don't

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00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: feel no for it, you know what I mean?

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: You know, one stereo type they always say, they'll say

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00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: that light skinned black people are biracials, will be overly black,

1333
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: overly revolutionary. Yeah, that's probably what they try to come in.

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00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah they did. But it's like, yeah, I ain't never

1335
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: know nothing about it. You know, I ain't know.

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00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 4: I had nothing to compensate for, you know what I

1337
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 4: mean in my neighborhood. But it's like being light skinned.

1338
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 4: It's like I see life skin folks all the time.

1339
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 4: I see mixed folks all the time. Like all I

1340
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 4: know is this community. I ain't never really seen no difference.

1341
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: But I understand, I can understand the psychology but trying behind,

1342
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 4: trying to over compensate. But that just ain't my vibe.

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00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: But the dog skinning brothers with boll heads that.

1344
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: Hettle jump you in this mother he.

1345
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 4: Almost hard art that feet don't touch the ground, you

1346
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: know you're surrounded. See that's the thing too, is like

1347
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 4: like it's it's like, you know, the funniest thing to

1348
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: me is like, uh like when certain black men to

1349
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 4: be like yeah, you know them them light skinning them

1350
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: by racials like, Bro, you don't want to make it.

1351
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: Bro, that's a fact. Stop sleeping with white women. You

1352
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 3: gotta worry about.

1353
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: Manout somewhere like.

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00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: Love you love, But like bro, like you you you know,

1355
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: I ain't go out there like they be coming for

1356
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 4: him on and I'll be.

1357
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 3: Ready to cry, I'll be ready to fight off.

1358
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: But he'd be like, but.

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 9: They's on line. But we come from a real place.

1360
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 9: Like the nigga talks about my dog. I'm really slepting,

1361
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So it would be loving person.

1362
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, loving person you don't want to picture, you know

1363
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1364
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Speaker 4: Every single time, Like I think one of the biggest,

1365
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: one of the biggest haters.

1366
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: I got like as to be on the podcast and

1367
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: I just didn't respond the time.

1368
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Happened all the time.

1369
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: Now you never never you up. We never talked about Cooper.

1370
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Nobody hate to question being that you don't know who

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: your biological parents are. Just ice scare you.

1372
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: Matross my mind.

1373
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: We can jentlem if you.

1374
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: Want, you know, smoke crazy in the back outs on

1375
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: the real web side that you know what the funniest

1376
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: thing is Like when I was younger, you know, you

1377
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 4: get the breasht cut. You know, won't we won't go

1378
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: waves at junk. You know you really you're really struggling

1379
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 4: to try to get some waves. I was like, man,

1380
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: I ain't doing that. So, uh, my partners used to

1381
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 4: joke with me, like when we was roast, they called

1382
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: me dis broader your mixing a one time me and

1383
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: my home boy had went we was like breaking in

1384
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: cars and stuff, and I guess whatever the word got

1385
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 4: like we was on foot. Now that's so stupid breaking

1386
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: the car while you're on feet. But the police pulled

1387
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 4: this over and they was like going at my partner

1388
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: and it was like you you speak English. I was like, no,

1389
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: it's not.

1390
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: Like indimitably English, Nigga, the Kings English, the Queens work.

1391
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 7: Speaking of the love of the creator showed so much

1392
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 7: love one of the podcasts he listened to it with

1393
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 7: the cutting room floor. After talking about people that got

1394
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 7: podcasts are not smart.

1395
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: Said gross, You actually said podcasts are gross?

1396
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel me.

1397
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: It's love, bro, You know, we get a lot of love,

1398
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: and that's what matter for real. Like you know when

1399
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: people walk up, like even with Tyler knowing he just

1400
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: don't like nothing.

1401
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, that's love.

1402
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: But I think more than anything, when people walk up

1403
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: and they're like, man, man, my son taught me to

1404
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 4: listen to your podcast, And then on the opposite out side,

1405
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 4: it's like man, my son, like, like my dad told

1406
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 4: me to listen to you, Well, my mom taught me

1407
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 4: to listen to Like it's intergenerational thing. I know we're

1408
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 4: doing the right thing because, like what we're trying to

1409
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 4: really do is bridge gaps. Like we got a lot

1410
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: of gaps in our community around differences, but our experience

1411
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: is extremely the same. And it's like, bro, you want

1412
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: to let one little thing that you don't have in

1413
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: common with a person separate you when all the other

1414
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: experiences you can relate to, that's a little foolish. It's like,

1415
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: you know, I ain't with no division. So if we

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00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: bridging gaps and it's like a family thing, you know,

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01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: folks watching this like me and my man watch this,

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: Me and my girlfriend wate this, Like, bro, that's the love.

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01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: That's what we focus on. The love.

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01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I got two more questions learn about

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01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: one bet right from I heard you talking about systems

1422
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: and that we had Christopher Williams up here and he

1423
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: was talking about that as well, and I feel the

1424
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: same way. And I don't know we'll ever truly be

1425
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: able to change the system. I don't even know if

1426
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: that's a pessimistic mindset to have, but I do feel

1427
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: like we can liberate ourselves with fitnesses, like that's really

1428
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: the only way to be to achieve anything. Really.

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 4: I think that's a lot about what like intersectionality is about.

1430
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: It's like people want to tear down the dismount of

1431
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: systems that for one, they really don't know how to work.

1432
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: They just know how they work against them.

1433
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: You know, they you know how how it feels to

1434
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 4: be oppressed, but like you don't understand like the history

1435
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 4: of these system how they was built and things like that.

1436
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: So you know, you tear everything down, do you have

1437
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 4: a community you can rely on? Do you like what

1438
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: you're gonna do? Do you have the tools to rebuild it?

1439
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1440
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: And I think because of like film and movie, we

1441
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 4: think doing the gloom, we think mad Max, and we

1442
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 4: think the world just gonna end and be anarchy. But

1443
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: I think you know, within understanding, that's how you operate,

1444
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 4: you know, like at work, anybody like Finesse, at work,

1445
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: like Big K used to be finishing at the Mercedes beans. Bro,

1446
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: He's to be like, he know, if I get this

1447
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: amount of money, I could put that back in the

1448
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 4: Jory and get that back to the company and the

1449
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 4: rest I could pocket. He operating within the system, but

1450
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 4: he benefited himself. It's like that, what do you folks do?

1451
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 4: Like looking for me that.

1452
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: You don't.

1453
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But look, I think that

1454
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: the bigger thing is this is just like you know,

1455
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: I'll be telling my partners in the hour of time. Like, Bro,

1456
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: if you shut your phone off for two weeks, you

1457
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 4: ain't gonna know what's going on in the world, but

1458
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 4: you'll know what's going on in your world.

1459
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: And like, so sometimes you gotta just focus on that part.

1460
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 4: Like if we focus on like the big the big

1461
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: picture of America all.

1462
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 3: The time, like that stretch you out. B.

1463
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: These folks have entire like corporations designed to push negative

1464
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 4: media towards you every day. Like sometimes you gotta take

1465
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: a break, like a lot of you know this this

1466
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: all this technology is fairly new, so like and we

1467
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 4: obsessed over it.

1468
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: It's like, just take a break. B.

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01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: It's like five bit you know, recoup, like because you

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 4: can't really be helpful to the community anyway if you're

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01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 4: not good with yourself.

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: We all got work to do.

1473
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 4: But you know, the bigger system, at largest system that

1474
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: we've been fighting since we came here. So I think

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01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 4: continue to fight we seen which is white supremacis yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 4: and I think you know, and capitalism too. But I

1477
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 4: think to continue that fight while also continue to like

1478
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: embrace each other and strengthen our bond within our community.

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01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: That's the most important part. You know. It's a it's

1480
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: a we're gonna chip away out a little bit of

1481
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: a time, you know what I mean.

1482
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: My last question's something the podcast industry doesn't prepare creators.

1483
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: Success.

1484
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: What jo Joe said, it ramp up, you know, Like

1485
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is too, it's like what

1486
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: you're gonna do when it when it happened. But also

1487
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: like it's gonna be days where you just like just

1488
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 4: like a job, like you don't feel like it, but

1489
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: you really got to tighten up and get to it

1490
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: because now you've got an audience, you got people depend

1491
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 4: on you.

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: It's like the thing is is like you don't want

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01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: them to go away.

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01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, just being consistent, and then I think podcasting in

1495
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 4: general for us, it's shit easy.

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01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 7: Bro.

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: We just being ourselves, you know what I'm saying, We

1498
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 4: represent ourselves. So as long as I know, I ain't

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 4: I ain't hear faking the funk. I ain't got no gimmick,

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01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's just like we being ourselves.

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 4: That's what makes it easy. But scheduling, staying on top

1502
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 4: of the thing, building the team, finding the team, you

1503
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, finding good people, getting over the

1504
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: anxiety and feeling like everybody trying to take and still

1505
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 4: you know, just be opportunistic. Like you know, it's a

1506
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: lot of stuff that come with it, but you just

1507
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: a day at the time for real. When you manage it,

1508
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 4: you can.

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01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: When you say success, you mean like the notoriety that

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01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: comes before the money. You say, you still work at

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Speaker 1: the airport.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I was at I was at airport. Not

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Speaker 3: the notoriety, the part.

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Speaker 4: It's the part where it's actually a functioning system, Like

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Speaker 4: we're making money out of this. We're feeding ourselves, we

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Speaker 4: feeding each other, We able to hire people, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Things like that where it's like, oh shit,

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Speaker 4: I just was like driving truck. That was the easy part.

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Speaker 4: I knew my routes, I knew everything. Now I'm giving

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Speaker 4: people they routes, you know what I'm saying. And metaphorically,

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Speaker 4: but being being in charge, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I want to be a leader one and I want

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Speaker 4: to be a boss, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 4: leading by example is a tough thing to do too,

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Speaker 4: because everybody just see it as like, damn, you make

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Speaker 4: it look easier.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, you ain't gonna you ain't. You ain't

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Speaker 3: in the room me at three am, Like oh my god,

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Speaker 3: what the fuck have I got myself into? You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But it's real though.

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Speaker 4: It's like and I think keeping the balance of like

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, It's gonna be peaks and valleys,

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Speaker 4: but you just keep going.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to keep going for sure? Right?

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Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, man, make sure y'all subscribe to the GRITCH today.

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Speaker 3: Thankful we go. Are you rappers out there? Get out

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Speaker 3: that booth.

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Speaker 9: American needs plumbers, electricians, we need we need everything, h VAC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get that trade man.

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Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, The trade is what got

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Speaker 9: the podcast off the ground.

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Speaker 3: So go get that trade man, get some money. Man.

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Speaker 4: If you do got good music, we do got to

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Speaker 4: show that, Ben cause every Monday, new music, Monday coming

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Speaker 4: tapping with that, Bro.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you having to make sure.

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Speaker 1: Y'all subscribe to the Grit to podcast. With the Grit

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Speaker 1: Podcast heavy man, I think y'all are very dope, very necessary,

1549
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Speaker 1: and it's crazy. It's so early for y'all.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the best is really yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be a fun journey to watch. Man.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate only one who.

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Speaker 2: Listen, but y'alla, she's just.

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Speaker 5: I really don't but.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, man, that's love, Thank you, Thank you all.

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Speaker 2: Kyle is the Grit and Eggs podcast Sir.

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Speaker 3: Every day a week

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Speaker 1: Breakfast club finish for yar Dump