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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello everyone, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of.

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Speaker 2: Shut Short, Every Sweet.

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Speaker 1: This is about lastraw's.

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Speaker 2: When is a lastraw? And listen.

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Speaker 1: It is the holiday season and I think that oftentimes

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Speaker 1: the last straw kind of lands at this you've had

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Speaker 1: it or at leased with the Luddington's. The Lutdingtons love

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Speaker 1: alastraw at Christmas. It's like we have turkey and a

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Speaker 1: cide mac and cheese and a side of whatever and

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Speaker 1: a side of the.

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Speaker 2: Lastra Yeah, I've had it. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the call We're going to dive straight in because

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Speaker 1: the call It crew have sent us submission. Okay.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I just want to say, well, I

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Speaker 3: was gonna say I do feel like I've evolved a

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Speaker 3: bit because I used to like, for me, a lost

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Speaker 3: straw would be you know, when you're having just one

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Speaker 3: of those really challenging mornings where just everything seems to

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Speaker 3: be going wrong, like you're alarm does and go off,

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Speaker 3: you sleep.

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Speaker 2: Through it, you wake up, you don't have clean underwear.

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Speaker 2: You then go like all the things are just going wrong,

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Speaker 2: going going wrong, going wrong, and then it culminates and

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Speaker 2: you get into your car and you split your coffee

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Speaker 2: all over yourself and you're like yeah, and it's just

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Speaker 2: all over. And I've gotten better at that because I

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Speaker 2: have the moment where I'm like, this is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I calm the entertainments and I say, just wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, this is not it. It will never be it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a breath, we're gonna collect ourselves, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna keep going.

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Speaker 1: I have to say I'm good until unless my last

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Speaker 1: straw ends up being a toe stub, a physical toe

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Speaker 1: stub will always be my last straw. And it happens

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Speaker 1: often to me. I feel like, if things are going wrong,

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Speaker 1: my toe is like I'm going to go this way,

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Speaker 1: run into that corner, and and it is refect. But

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Speaker 1: it happens.

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Speaker 2: It happens enough for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, Listen, if if your day's going badly and

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Speaker 1: then you stub your toe, you tell me that's not

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Speaker 1: your last straw. If you can survive that, Jess, you're

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Speaker 1: you're on You're on the next level. You're you're revolved

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Speaker 1: as a human being, as an entity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to.

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Speaker 1: Get into the into the Colic crew talking about their

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Speaker 1: last straws. So Mary and Sally have written us and

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Speaker 1: they said, we both work at the same retail store,

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Speaker 1: and on Black Friday this year, they had us steaming

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Speaker 1: so many clothes, so many and eventually the steamer got

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Speaker 1: got as tired as us and exploded all over the place.

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Speaker 1: It burned Sally's arms and my chest. Safe to say,

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Speaker 1: we quit real quick because I.

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Speaker 2: Was the last straw.

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Speaker 1: That was their last straw. I mean, if you first off,

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Speaker 1: I hated working retail. I quit the first day of

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Speaker 1: the job.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 1: I hated it more than waiting tables.

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Speaker 2: I was to say. I never did do retail. I

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Speaker 2: only did service.

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Speaker 1: You're missing out on hell, seriously. And so if I

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Speaker 1: got burned in retail, hold.

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Speaker 2: Done, done done, just walking out right, it's over, yep.

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Speaker 2: I would I would, I would have. I would agree

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Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, all right. So Jenny wrote in and said,

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Speaker 2: my last straw was the head chef I work for,

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Speaker 2: telling me, oh boy, oh god, the woman's place is

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Speaker 2: at the sink, not cooking. And this was after I

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Speaker 2: caught the head chef doing drugs on the countertop where

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Speaker 2: we all prepared food. And after I informed the owner

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Speaker 2: of the restaurant about all of this, to which she

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Speaker 2: did nothing because they were both sleeping together. Astro. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you that there's so many cliches in

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Speaker 2: this little, this little don't you always hear that, like

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Speaker 2: head chefs are, chefs are angry, and chefs do drugs,

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Speaker 2: and chefs are sleeping with everyone. Well, I mean, have

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Speaker 2: you watched The Bear? Yeah yeah, yeah, But I'm this

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Speaker 2: is you think it really is all just true? Like

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Speaker 2: that's like, now I'm gonna look at chefs.

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Speaker 1: I've known some. I've known some chefs that have been

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Speaker 1: sleeping with some some peeps, and I thought.

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Speaker 2: That like chefing was a sexy like getting you to.

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Speaker 1: You're wrong, You're wrong, because here's the thing. You got

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Speaker 1: to imagine this, right, you're a waitress. You're going you're like, god,

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Speaker 1: those people out there, and he's like, guess what, I

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Speaker 1: just made those fries on the fly for you because

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Speaker 1: you forgot to put them in. And you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: you just saved me. You just saved my tip. He's like,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. Like there are situations where the chef has control.

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Speaker 2: You got saved by fries.

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Speaker 1: No, this is what I'm saying. This is the situation

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Speaker 1: that's never happened to me.

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Speaker 2: Usually you're really good at these hypotheticals on the fly,

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Speaker 2: So I was waiting for no, no, no, I'm just saying, like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that if you've ever forgotten to

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Speaker 2: ring in a food order, and that chef can make

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Speaker 2: something on the flight to make it look like you.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a real life example.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a real life example. Didn't end up

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Speaker 1: ahead chef was No, I did not bone the head chef.

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Speaker 2: You did. You went to bone town with someone who

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Speaker 2: put in an order for fries and saved your butt.

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Speaker 4: It was too specific a lamp. I'm sorry you've been gotten.

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Speaker 4: Are you saying that I slept with a head chef

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Speaker 4: of on the fly? I'm saying, yes, Listen, Bob and

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Speaker 4: I had a Oh, Bob, we had a connection. Don't

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Speaker 4: worry about it, Jess. The point is it's good of happen.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, Great, Sharon. My last straw was over the past

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Speaker 1: few years. I was really close to a guy friend.

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Speaker 1: We called each other brother and sister for ten years,

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Speaker 1: and his family was mine. He got married and instead

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Speaker 1: of asking me to be in his wedding on his side,

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Speaker 1: he asked a guy he knew for two years. I

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Speaker 1: found out that he didn't want to what.

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Speaker 2: Oh what?

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Speaker 1: I found out that he didn't want me in a

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Speaker 1: tuxt because he didn't want to make anyone uncomfortable. I

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Speaker 1: dropped that friendship.

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Speaker 2: M Yeah, I don't like Sharon. Sharon.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Sharon was going to look too hot in

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Speaker 1: the tucks and show him up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna outshine him. Yeah, it's a jerk.

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Speaker 2: Call him a jerk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just petty.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. Nope, I don't like that either.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl says, I'd like to get your perspective on this

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Speaker 2: last straw situation. A twenty five plus year friendship ended

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Speaker 2: because I couldn't fully attend my friend's son's first communion.

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Speaker 2: My daughter had a basketball game and I told her

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Speaker 2: i'd come right after, which I did. My husband also

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Speaker 2: couldn't attend because he's working a side job after losing

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Speaker 2: his job, which my friend knew about. I gave her

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Speaker 2: a heads up through text, but she cursed me out

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Speaker 2: and hasn't spoken to me since. I was still invited

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Speaker 2: spoke to me. Then I realized that I was cut

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Speaker 2: off after texting her to wish her happy birthday. Now

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Speaker 2: it's awkward when we see her and her kids. Her

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Speaker 2: eldest is my goddaughter, and my eldest is hers. Her

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Speaker 2: son won't even say hi to me or my husband anymore.

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Speaker 2: Would love your thoughts this as bullshit? Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 2: like something else is going on. I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because listen, I had my first communion. I barely

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Speaker 1: remember it. I mean, it's not it's not a wedding day.

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Speaker 2: Although you are wearing a teeny tiny little wedding dress. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about that. Well you're getting married.

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Speaker 1: Well, I listen, I don't. It's fine. Life happens. If

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Speaker 1: you have a friend that can't handle the fact that

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Speaker 1: your life also happens at the same time as theirs does,

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Speaker 1: then but I agree, I think, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: it was the last straw. You're right, there are odds there.

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Speaker 1: We need to know the other straws.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something something, something's going on here. I mean, because

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Speaker 2: if that's that's it, then that's I'm sorry. I think

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Speaker 2: that's a little bit of an ever reaction. No, yeah,

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Speaker 2: talk it out. I would.

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 2: I would go in with an attempt to talk it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first thing you say is what the

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Speaker 1: hell is wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what Camilla would say. I would be like, hmmm, hmmm.

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Speaker 1: Actually the hm is worse than me saying what the

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Speaker 1: hell is wrong with you? If you call me so

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Speaker 1: what the hell is wrong and you're like, oh, if

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Speaker 1: you want, hey, Camilla, I'd be like literally pooping my pants.

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Speaker 1: I'd like, oh my god, something terrible. I've done something

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, talk to me about Alice Alis said.

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Speaker 1: My last straw in my friendship was when I was

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Speaker 1: in hospital about to undergo surgery. My friend kept calling

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Speaker 1: and texting me frantically about sending through a recording for

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Speaker 1: a group project, telling me how unorganized and awful I was,

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Speaker 1: even though I had already emailed the teacher and she

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Speaker 1: was fine with it. I felt so disrespected. Major last straw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a big last straw. I feel kind of stupid

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Speaker 1: a little bit because I said my last straw was

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Speaker 1: a toe stub, and everyone's last straws are way more

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Speaker 1: dat straws. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's absurd and I agree. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are not these are not great.

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Speaker 2: No, I think these are like even bigger than.

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Speaker 1: Than a last straw.

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Speaker 2: It's a last like log, it's the last, Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: last stalk.

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Speaker 1: It's a bigger straw. Like, what's bigger than a straw?

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Speaker 2: It's a tree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a last tree. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Sarah wrote in and said, my last straw that made

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Speaker 2: me and my relationship was my ex continued allowing his

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Speaker 2: mom to get involved in our reallylationship. Even after multiple conversations,

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Speaker 2: his parents would randomly appear at our date nights. What

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Speaker 2: we couldn't hang out on our own without him involving

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Speaker 2: his parents. The final straw was him lying to me

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Speaker 2: about not being able to have date night because he

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Speaker 2: was rained in at his house when it was only sprinkling,

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Speaker 2: at your house. I'm sorry, I can't come. I mean

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Speaker 2: it would have to just I'm sorry. I just thoughts

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Speaker 2: raining a little bit and I can't come.

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Speaker 1: It would have to be severe rain, Like I'm really worried.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sprinkle, no, no, no, not sprinkling. Yeah, that would

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Speaker 2: be a last straw. I think that you well, the

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Speaker 2: last straw is lying almost you know, lying is definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna be always a last straw, the final Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not good. I don't you know what? And I'm

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Speaker 1: not so sure about the whole, Like why are your

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Speaker 1: even know where you're going? Like I'm not texting Martin

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Speaker 1: Luddington and letting going hdding up Chili's in an hour?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: By the way, because he would come, That's true, he

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Speaker 1: But why you've been telling them where you're going? Maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they shared locations. That's the thing. Do you share

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Speaker 1: I recently, recently, when me and you were somewhere, oh,

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Speaker 2: And then I took you away, Like why you were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was worried. I knew I was looking too

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Speaker 1: well carry on, Charlot said. Charlotte said, My last straw

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Speaker 2: Can't be the first thing, is no, Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Obviously at some point you're gonna say, how's the car?

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Speaker 2: Well I think there also had to have been other

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry I didn't Yeah, that's the whole point

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Speaker 2: of this, Jess, So sorry, so sorry. I'm still clought

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Speaker 2: on you sent Matt Yourn. When I'm with you, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've turned it off.

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Speaker 1: I've turned it off since I got back, and if

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Speaker 2: I'm in the next room. But you never know, capable.

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Speaker 1: you gotta read Phoebe last straw.

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Speaker 2: Phoebe wrote in and said, my last straw was my

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Speaker 2: The kicker is he told me he was too sick

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Speaker 1: Gross, I mean six times in a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he only made four of the ten years that

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Speaker 1: That's annoying, yea, yeah, yeah yeah, that's where.

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Speaker 1: Sku. You can go in and you can edit that.

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Speaker 1: You can figure out who's the not close friend.

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Speaker 1: No, No, okay, Nicholas, last one from the crew, last

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Speaker 1: final straw, my last straw was when I was asked

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that with a married woman twice his age.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't comment on anyone's appearance. However, the woman he

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Speaker 2: Oh stop, Whenever you say I shouldn't comment on anyone's

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Speaker 1: I know, but here we go, going in he's missing.

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Speaker 1: Up front two she had tattoos across her chest and

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Speaker 1: but here's my list. Mind you My friend is thirty

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Speaker 1: It does sound like your friend's clearly going through something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got ditched. Well, so it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you get asked to do something and it's very specific,

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Speaker 1: It's hard when you want a cruise too, because there's

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Speaker 2: So if I went on a cruise with you, would

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Speaker 1: I would always share it. I would always, honestly, even

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm going from the living room.

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Speaker 2: I know something new about you know. I just don't

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Speaker 2: know if I can unring this. You can't. You cannot

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Speaker 1: I love it. I hope that you guys don't have

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Speaker 1: many last straws. This holiday season. May the last straws

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Speaker 1: be in a beverage of your choice eggs. Jessica Capshaw,

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Speaker 1: your first copy, write it.

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Speaker 2: Make a T shirt, make a hat. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. I love it when we do

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Speaker 1: these short Do you hear my dogs marking?

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Speaker 1: Actually, Okay, I love this. I do love a short

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Speaker 2: With no, It's okay. You got to have a starting point,

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Speaker 2: and you know what, there's no bad answer. We're all just,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about side parts versus middle parts.

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Speaker 2: And that someone I don't know, I think I young

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Speaker 2: every single red carpet? See you complete me? I was

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Speaker 2: going to say. I see Blake Lively rocking a side

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Speaker 2: her just with a tossled side part. Loveliness, Lively, loveliness. So, anyways,

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Speaker 2: Because remember we were having the conversation where I said

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Speaker 1: Well, when we back, when we went back to your

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Speaker 2: It looked good. A mysterious car pulled up.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it was mad because it's mad. It was

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Speaker 1: sure that you have the what's in, what's out? What

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Speaker 2: Yeah? See look I'm showing you right now.

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Speaker 1: She looks good right now.

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Speaker 1: And and we'll have a poll. Should just have suit backle.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that Kimila needs to keep her location

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Speaker 2: It's just so us this episode. Call it and the

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