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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jackie and he arm Draw get it.

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Speaker 1: Live from my home office. It's clearly a bola. And

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Speaker 1: to find out that Elon and Doge cut a bola

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Speaker 1: funding is bad news for those.

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Speaker 2: Of us with with obola ebo. Oh the irony, I know,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I was pro Doge he cuts ebola. I

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Speaker 2: get a bola. That's how the wife works.

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Speaker 3: I noticed you were bleeding from the eyeballs. Didn't want

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Speaker 3: to bring it up. You know, you thought it was

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Speaker 3: my other thing.

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Speaker 1: Live from wherever we all are all collectively in the

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Speaker 1: Armstrong Young getting the communications compound. And today what counts

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Speaker 1: exactly and today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.

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Speaker 2: I'm torn, Jack, I'm torn. Number one.

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Speaker 1: I despy celebrity worship number two. I have said a

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Speaker 1: thousand times I don't care about an actor's opinion on

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Speaker 1: anything more than I do an orthodonist or truck driver.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, the many performances of the great

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Speaker 1: Gene Hackman have brought a hell of a lot of

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Speaker 1: joy and thought and the rest of it enjoyment through

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Speaker 1: the years.

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Speaker 2: So Gene Ackman has passed. He is our honorary general manager.

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Speaker 1: Passed in an odd way. So he and his wife

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Speaker 1: and dog found dead in their home. But no suspicion

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Speaker 1: of foul play. What's your guest there. I think everybody's

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Speaker 1: mind is going to the same thing, some sort of

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Speaker 1: carbon monoxide problem or similar phenomenon. So not suicide, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's some sort of that would be foul play.

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Speaker 1: Even if you kill yourself, it's foul play. Well, the

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Speaker 1: dog didn't kill him, or maybe he did. It's not

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Speaker 1: a crimeal he was then dog. No, No, it's just

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Speaker 1: all the accounts I've read. If it had been a murder, suicide,

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Speaker 1: or even a multiple suicide, it would have made that clear.

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Speaker 1: She was in her early sixties, he was in his

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Speaker 1: early nineties. Sixty five, ninety five, I believe. If they're

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Speaker 1: both in their nineties, was seventy four. If they're both

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Speaker 1: but no, she's only like sixty two or something like that.

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Speaker 2: So you think some sort of gas leak. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: very similar, one hundred percent. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, aside from the strangeness around the death, which I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they'll announce today, he's my all time favorite actor.

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Speaker 1: I mean back in the day, I would go to

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Speaker 1: any movie that hadn't Gene Hackman in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a bad maneuver. He was absolutely fantastic. But

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Speaker 2: he's yead. His time was long ago.

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Speaker 1: The movie they keep mentioning, the French Connection, which he

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Speaker 1: won his first Oscar for, was nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Good god, that's.

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Speaker 3: Fifty four years ago, so right, right, And as we've discussed,

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Speaker 3: I think picking a single favorite anything's a little silly,

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Speaker 3: but as a topic why not. I've often cited, unforgiven,

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Speaker 3: the Clint Eastwood Western is my all time favorite movie

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Speaker 3: and Gene Hackman was a huge part of that and

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Speaker 3: won a Best Supporting Actor for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite Gene Hackman role is Mississippi Burning. Got

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Speaker 2: his goal so good? Oh man, man.

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Speaker 1: I was watching some highlights last night after I heard

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Speaker 1: the news on YouTube. Anyway, so you got that news.

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Speaker 1: Have you watched any of the videos of Elon at

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Speaker 1: the cabinet meeting yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Oh yeah, Well, what's your take on that.

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Speaker 1: I don't I want to say what I think until

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Speaker 1: I hear you say what you think, because I don't

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Speaker 2: But it struck me a certain way. Yeah, yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I found myself speculating what you're gonna say. My reaction

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Speaker 2: to it was it seemed lighthearted.

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Speaker 3: I was in favor of of all of it. It's

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Speaker 3: in the imperfect process. But I came away cheery.

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Speaker 1: I felt like the cabinet, the actual cabinet, the strict

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Speaker 1: mean I rewatched, I went back and watch it over

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Speaker 2: They didn't.

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Speaker 1: There was not a moment of light hearted amusement on

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Speaker 2: How interesting, huh?

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Speaker 1: And I you know, I don't know. I'm only seeing

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Speaker 1: guarantee it. I mean, you know you want to most

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Speaker 1: of the time I've been in those meetings with you, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And you could draw all kinds of conclusions from that,

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Speaker 1: And it's really just that I hate long meetings and

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have anything to do with the content. But I

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Speaker 1: could absolutely see a Marcu Rubio thinking, I'm Secretary of

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Speaker 1: bloodiest war since the end of World War Two?

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Speaker 2: Who's this freaking guy.

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Speaker 3: Over in the corner and the base Or even if

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Speaker 3: it is an overtly hostile you're taking on an enormous

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Speaker 3: new job. You're managing upward as a cabinet secretary constantly

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Speaker 3: it's a difficult task to you know, stay on the

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Speaker 3: right side of the president, You do what needs to

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Speaker 3: be done, blah blah blah, and then you've got, you know,

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Speaker 3: a third poll of power, Elon Musk, who's laughing and

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Speaker 3: joking and dressed with his hat and all I could

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Speaker 3: see it being even if you didn't hate it, it

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Speaker 3: would be a swirling waters to kayak through, if you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. And I knowing the support Musk

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Speaker 3: has from the President, yeah, I'm pro.

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Speaker 1: Elon pro doge, But I just I don't think the

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Speaker 1: rest of the cabinet was digging it.

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Speaker 2: And well, I don't know if you saw this clip.

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Speaker 1: But at one point Trump cut him off and said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's enough. Elon, the rest of the cabinet has to

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Speaker 1: speak at some point. And then there is some and

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Speaker 1: no smiles from the people in the cabinet when he

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Speaker 1: And people then kind of laughed. Yeah, but that was

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Speaker 1: that line. That was his baffo mic drop line.

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Speaker 2: But he was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so that was the President recognizing that maybe

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be tough. I mean, you talk about managing

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Speaker 2: egos and personalities.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Elon stands up.

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Speaker 2: He expects to command a room.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't he, especially presbe well his resume and his personality.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you were if you had Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 3: again kudos to mister Bezos for his fabulous tweet the

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Speaker 3: other day explaining how the Washington Post editorial board is

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Speaker 3: now going to be all about free people in free markets,

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Speaker 3: which is stealing the Wall Street Journal editorial board anyway. Ah,

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Speaker 1: But it would be a very different experience have Jeff

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Speaker 1: Bezos in that role as opposed to Elon Musk, who

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Speaker 1: is a loose cannon and an incredibly utter, energetic, scattered,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I didn't. I didn't take that seriously.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's it is odd. I'm not taking it seriously.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a problem. I just thought it

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Speaker 1: Dig the We've got certain ways we do things around here,

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Speaker 1: and you're not doing it the usual way. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a fan of that ever in any in any setting.

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Speaker 1: So you know, whatever, get over it.

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Speaker 3: And and the more I look at it, and I've

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Speaker 3: spent a good bit of time getting ready for the

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Speaker 3: show looking at this specific thing, the knee jerk often

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Speaker 3: just silly and idiotic. We must oppose everything, everything they

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Speaker 3: do at every moment. We must be in opposition to.

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Speaker 1: If Trump picks up a pen we must screech that

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Speaker 1: pencils are being oppressed. If Trump looks out the window,

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Speaker 1: we need the curtain lobby to to weive us a contribution.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just every single little thing has got to

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why.

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Speaker 3: The left, the Democrats, don't take a little more of

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Speaker 3: James Carville's advice.

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Speaker 2: And just lay weakly. You've got something good to take

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Speaker 1: I mean, because you're you're absolutely You're just there's so

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Speaker 1: much noise. You're becoming increasingly easy to ignore. One of

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Speaker 1: my least favorite symptoms that I've ever ever get in

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Speaker 1: my life, I've got right now, clammy. I don't like clamming. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Clammy's not a good feeling. No, No, Clammy's one of

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Speaker 1: my least favorite feelings. Well, especially because it's related to

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Speaker 1: several other words that are at the top of polls

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Speaker 1: for people's least favorite words, including moist or damp. A man,

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Speaker 1: when you're clammy, I got parts of me that are damp,

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Speaker 1: parts of me that are moist.

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Speaker 2: No, stop it.

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Speaker 3: I see every everybody listening, including me, is recoiling right now.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? Well you can guess which parts are which.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Katie, I was gonna tell Hanson to just turn

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Speaker 1: I am il, So you have to take me to

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Speaker 1: it's his disarming honesty, Katie, it's his trade.

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Speaker 2: We'll stop it.

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Speaker 1: I got a new trademark, tim me boy Blamy. So

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Speaker 1: we have an interesting thing to talk about. I hadn't

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump Junior said we should have armed a

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Speaker 1: that was Ai, that wasn't really him, and a bunch

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Speaker 1: pretty major we all got fool by AI.

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Speaker 2: That happened yesterday? I believe so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to play that for you.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later that said that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the show officially as Moist and Clammy as I am,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this at his

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Speaker 1: Thursday February twenty seventh, yere twenty twenty five, where I'm

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Speaker 1: strong and getting.

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Speaker 3: We approve of this program. I am, the other hand,

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Speaker 3: well powdered and fragrant. Let's begin the show officially now

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Speaker 2: Raggs at Mark. You see, mister beausham, this is the

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Speaker 2: kind of tras I need to get on. You find

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Speaker 2: this kind of all smooth and all your posperous communities,

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Speaker 2: which it tall over in Cheyenne. Oh jeez, family, Holy.

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Speaker 1: Crap, you won't find him in a town of big whiskey.

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Speaker 2: One of our more violent opening clips.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm, Flora Clinton. He was ailing with the flu or

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Speaker 1: I guess if you don't know the movie Unforgiven, you

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Speaker 2: And there's you're probably better for it.

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Speaker 1: But that was the great Gene Hackman who passed because

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Speaker 2: When he was supposed to do, or something something like that.

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Speaker 3: the London bookies that he and his wife.

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Speaker 2: What was arity that that had? Where did that come from? Hanson?

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Speaker 2: You've got to come out, as Tim cooks, you got.

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Speaker 3: Right, if there is some sort of award for somebody

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Speaker 1: And then who is that on CNN Claire Duffy. Claire

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Speaker 1: And why would CNN think it's a good idea to

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Speaker 1: Well. Do you think this is an overreaction to discuss

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Speaker 1: That person misgendered someone, and misgendering is worse than thermonuclear war.

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Speaker 3: their apartment, to ejection from school whatever. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 3: one of the most insidious things to me. This is

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Speaker 3: already just going forward one hundred miles per hour. Is

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Speaker 3: it makes it that much easier to indoctrinate our young

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Speaker 3: people if while looking for an article on photosynthesis, they

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Speaker 3: always come across neo Marxist climate change information or misgendering,

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Speaker 3: crap or whatever I mean, because that's the goal of

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Speaker 3: the neo Marxist They've they've stated it out loud. You

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Speaker 3: see it in universities, you will incorporate the principles of

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Speaker 3: DEI in every class, including quantum mechanics and physics and biochemistry.

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Speaker 2: So this is a dream way to be able to

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Speaker 2: do that. Well, I've got a perfect example of that.

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Speaker 1: Let me bring up my notes here, I'll find them

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Speaker 1: from yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It was a one of your schools. Ah, I'll find

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Speaker 2: it anyway.

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Speaker 1: It was an example of what you were saying that

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Speaker 1: college universities have to work in this sort of crap

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Speaker 1: into everything. It was a I think it was a

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Speaker 1: math class. No, it was an astronomy class. That item

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Speaker 1: one for the students was recognizing the dangers of climate

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Speaker 1: change and everything that goes with it. And and somebody

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Speaker 1: complained in the university actually made them take that out

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Speaker 1: of astronomy. What's what the hell is? You know, looking

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Speaker 1: at the moon and the stars got to do with

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Speaker 1: climate change? But that had to be number one item

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Speaker 1: agenda to work into the class.

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Speaker 2: Somehow, that makes me so insane, but it motivates me

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Speaker 2: to do what we do that is so ugly and

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Speaker 2: stupid and obviously bent on controlling society. It needs to

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Speaker 2: be in everything. They must hear it everywhere. Every topic

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Speaker 2: must be about equity. Wh Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For instance, the London School of Economics hosting an event

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Speaker 1: today called Understanding Hamas and Why that Matters. In its description,

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Speaker 1: it says Hamas has been subjected to intense vilification, branding

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Speaker 1: it is a terrorist or worst worse, and this is

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Speaker 1: why the London School of Economics, what are the most

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Speaker 1: respected learning institutions around economics in the world, is gonna

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Speaker 1: spend the day convincing Hamas isn't bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The fact that AI could that any AI.

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Speaker 1: Even like some weird offshoot minor AI let alone, almost

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Speaker 1: all of them say misgenering is worse than thermonuclear war.

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Speaker 1: You gotta unplug it or do whatever you to stop AI.

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Speaker 1: I don't I stop it, but I don't know. Put

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Speaker 1: lay down a tax strip in the road or something.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you do to slow down AI needs to happen immediately.

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Speaker 2: It is a computer system.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's not a person, but well it's it's more

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Speaker 3: than it's just a technology that even the guys behind

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Speaker 3: it don't understand correct. One is reminded of Maya Angelou's

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Speaker 3: famous statement that when someone tries to tell you what

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Speaker 3: kind of person they are, believe them. When AI tries

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Speaker 3: to tell you how dangerous it is, believe it. What

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Speaker 3: do we do about it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know?

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Speaker 1: And your example, so the really obvious ones, of course

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Speaker 1: we'll catch. You know, the idea that misgendering is worse

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Speaker 1: than a nuclear holocaust is ridiculous. Uh, if you type

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Speaker 1: the word trump and it changes it into racist is

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Speaker 1: easy to catch and ridiculous. But what about all the

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Speaker 1: way more subtle versions of that that will just be,

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Speaker 1: you know, running through all of our lives, in schools

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Speaker 1: and at home and in business, anything you do. You're

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Speaker 1: an eighteen year old college student who can spell, which

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Speaker 1: is a rarity. But you type in capitalism versus socialism

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Speaker 1: advantages and disadvantages.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: That would be so easy to shade I mean way

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Speaker 1: over into the capitalism is evil side of things? I mean,

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Speaker 1: or the founding of our country and how it would

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Speaker 1: be you know, push this direction or that it'd get

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Speaker 1: way closer to sixteen nineteen project than you know, what

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Speaker 1: we grew up learning that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Of course it will sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, highly troubling, i'd say, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and again your.

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Speaker 1: Point maybe the most troubling that Apple thought that was

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Speaker 1: the way to handle it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's a lot easier for me to deal

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Speaker 3: with because I understand pr and in corporate spokespeople and

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Speaker 3: shaping public opinion a lot than I understand AI. I

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Speaker 3: just and you know, there are plenty of folks at

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Speaker 3: Apple listening right now. Thank you for listening, and feel

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Speaker 3: free to be anonymous. Seriously, now, why in the world

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Speaker 3: would you so be clown yourself when the idea that

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Speaker 3: there was a troll or two at a Silicon Valley

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Speaker 3: operation and they thought it would be funny. Is that's

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Speaker 3: the modern world. We'd all be fine with it. I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna take a baalpen hammer to my iPhone over this.

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Speaker 3: It's actually, you know, it's frustrating because that whole Trump

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Speaker 3: racist thing is such a worn out trope.

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Speaker 2: But no, it's you know, it's almost funny. It's fine.

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Speaker 2: But instead you go with that bizarre, hilariously disingenuous explanation.

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that? Mail bag it?

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Speaker 1: Armstrong in geddy dot com and Apple spokeswoman blame the

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Speaker 1: issue on phonetic overlap between.

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Speaker 2: The two words. Right right, there isn't really any I've.

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Speaker 3: Written many songs. Let me, let me see if I

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Speaker 3: can make this work. I went to d C to

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Speaker 3: talk to Trump, but it left me wanting to take

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Speaker 3: a racist.

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Speaker 2: Is that a good good rhyme? There? Who's any other

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Speaker 2: songwriters out there like to comment?

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Speaker 3: Come on, Apple, be better than that. Mailbag is coming

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Speaker 3: up in moments. Stay with us, so I.

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Speaker 2: Know for some of you this is a really big day.

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi says she's going to release the Epstein information,

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Speaker 1: the Epstein list, travel logs, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: We can talk more about that maybe an hour or two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, everybody's looking forward to that in a weird,

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Speaker 1: purient way. Mostly I think, hmm, well, we can discuss

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Speaker 1: and certainly share those names with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh I feel a little weird about it. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not what most people are all jazzed up about. Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about it next hour.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's your freedom loving quote of the day from

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Speaker 3: George Washington. We should not look back unless it is

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Speaker 3: to derive useful lessons from past errors and for the

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Speaker 3: purpose of profiting by dearly bought experience. That reminds me

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Speaker 3: of a nietzschee quote I heard yesterday about how nations

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Speaker 3: need to be able to forget certain things and remember

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Speaker 3: certain things to survive. And I don't think he meant

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Speaker 3: forgets in like bury your history, but like not dwell

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Speaker 3: on right certain things you've done wrong, what you know

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Speaker 3: it'd be like in your marriage or your you know,

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Speaker 3: your relationship with.

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Speaker 1: Your boss or your kids or whatever. Sports is the

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Speaker 1: same way sports psychology.

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Speaker 3: You can't agonize over your mistakes while you're doing the

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Speaker 3: next play. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, an interesting thought. More could

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Speaker 3: be said, certainly on that point. You know, the one

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Speaker 3: thing about being young, and I was as guilty of

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Speaker 3: it as anybody is. Since you are young and have

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Speaker 3: quickly arrived at your decision on what the world must

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Speaker 3: to do. Now that you've taken one college class, you

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Speaker 3: assume everybody else has done the same, including the older generation,

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Speaker 3: and that the world that exists was just arbitrarily and

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Speaker 3: hastily designed. As opposed to, as Washington said, you're profiting

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Speaker 3: by dearly bought experience. Things are the way they are

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Speaker 3: because we've tried a thousand different things, some of them

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Speaker 3: several times, and we're going with what works.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, mailbag, what drops not? Mail bag at Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: In giddy dot Com, Eric new to Florgan writes, your weight,

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Speaker 1: it's just a number.

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Speaker 3: I often hear you and Jack say you have a

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Speaker 3: negative relationship with your body and the scale. I too,

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Speaker 3: was once concerned about my own half until I used

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Speaker 3: this weird trick. Convert your pounds to stone like you're

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Speaker 3: an Englishman, so simple. You're slapping your forehead right now

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Speaker 3: with this painfully simple solution. Per instance, I e. Weigh

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Speaker 3: two hundred and forty five pounds. This is not good.

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Speaker 3: But after a simple conversion, divide by fourteen and now

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Speaker 3: only way seventeen and a half stone. That's a much

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Speaker 3: smaller number by anyone's reckoning. That's an excellent diet. Hint there, Eric,

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Speaker 3: and I would say, if you're not ready to lose

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Speaker 3: that much weight, that quickly go with Kilo's divide by

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Speaker 3: two point two. Moving along, Chris in Visalia writes, Trump's

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Speaker 3: outrageous executive orders.

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Speaker 1: Have gone too far. Did you hear about this? He's

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Speaker 1: changed Taco Tuesday to Taco Wednesday. He's renamed Canadian Bacon

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Speaker 1: to Montana Ham. He's changed the name of the Montezuma's

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Speaker 1: Revenge to the Biden Trots. He's renamed the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: the Donkey Show.

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Speaker 3: That's not good, not at all, And as a final

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Speaker 3: act of narcissism, he has ordered McDonald's to drop the

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Speaker 3: Mick and simply become Donald's.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're right, that's executive overreach.

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Speaker 1: I see yesterday changing the name of Canada to gay

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Speaker 1: North Dakota.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. Wow. Uh pissed off.

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Speaker 3: Pete in in Salt Lake City, Utah rights Oh on

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Speaker 3: the doctor questioning you and your son, and you know

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Speaker 3: when sometimes you get ordered out of the room so

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Speaker 3: they can question your son.

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Speaker 1: To prevent a single case of child abuse anyway, he says,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Jack. Let's see if the doctor's qualified

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Speaker 1: and safe. Let's ask these questions doctor, before you take

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Speaker 1: my child beyond closed doors outside of my presence. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to talk to your wife and children have a

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Speaker 1: few questions for them without you being around.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. That is a good one. Pete

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Speaker 2: Scott and pleasant Hill. The justification of the physician who

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Speaker 2: texted Jack his defensive the did your father stop beating

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Speaker 2: you yet? And where does he keep his guns? Questions?

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Speaker 3: As the same justification, they would also do away with

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Speaker 3: our right to remain silent, to have a lawyer against

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Speaker 3: self incrimination, to possess a firearm, on and on if

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Speaker 3: it saves one innocent life.

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Speaker 2: Argument could easily be used to.

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Speaker 1: Take away all of those rights, and has been used

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Speaker 1: that way and throughout history. Oh yeah, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're going to use that philosophy, you need to search

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Speaker 1: every car at to various checkpoints and every home.

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Speaker 3: Certainly you know. But this is to me, this is

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Speaker 3: not a your evil and I'm good thing that one's

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Speaker 3: clearly wrong, one's clearly right.

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Speaker 2: It is competing interests.

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Speaker 1: It is good against good, seeking a balance, which is

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Speaker 1: exactly what we do when we design and run governments

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Speaker 1: theory theoretically.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, we're pressed for time.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the first Circuit Court of Appeals case that says

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Speaker 1: parents have no right to hear about their child's mental

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Speaker 1: health issues at school. I will be going into depth

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Speaker 1: with that, But several people said, I totally agree. I

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Speaker 1: will bury anyone who tries to mess with my family FAFO.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a tough guy, but don't f with my family.

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Speaker 3: The Left is messing with the family, or effing with it,

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Speaker 3: if you prefer, in a very primal, fundamental way, and

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Speaker 3: they are going to find out.

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Speaker 2: I think more on that next hour.

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Speaker 1: Many of these people who have these views have no children.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you miss an hour podcast Armstrong,

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Speaker 1: you Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty