1 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagxam. I'm tay Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and 2 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: John Osier with me. We're all back in the house 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: because the players are back in the house today as 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: the off season program begins. So let's get into our 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: big things. Big thing number one is back. 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: In the building. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Players are here for the first time. They get to 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: get acquainted with this new staff. Brian, We've been here 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: for a little bit, but it's gonna be different with 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: the players here and now they get to kind of 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: meet their new coaching staff and really understand what this 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: year is going to be like. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, qu up the C word culture. 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: This is when the coaches and the players establish the relationships, 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 4: They establish the expectations, you know, the things that they 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: want to get done and the way that they'll go 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 4: about doing it. It's voluntary. It's completely voluntary. But you 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: would think, John, that this is a really important time 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 4: for every player to be here, just to get to 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: know the coaching staff, to get a feel for how 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: they're going to do things. You know, I saw Mike Rabel, 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: you know, sent letters to all the Patriots in his 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: first year voluntarily talked about volunteer It is totally voluntary, 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: but it doesn't make it less important when you have 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: a new coach yet. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 5: It's voluntary, but it's a little awkward if you show 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 5: up for training camp and you haven't met anybody yet. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: So it's it's voluntary. But most players, especially in this 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: first year of a new regime, I haven't been around 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: very many players who even really experienced good players who 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: don't show up and get involved in that first. When 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 5: I talked to Liam Cohen last week at the at 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: the owner's meetings, I asked him what can players expect 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 5: when you show up? And he talked about the energy 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: and you know, when they walk in the building, coaches 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: want them to know this is what it's going to 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 5: be about. I also think Brian is going to be 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: some Look, this is a new thing. What you're walking 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: into is not what it was before, and there's a 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: little bit of a you know tight and I. 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: Do yeah, I do think also, And there's no way 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: to quantify this. But if you're a player, especially a 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: player who's gotten another bite of the apple, if you're Trevor, 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: if you're Josh, if you're Tyson, if you're one of 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: these guys who's up for a contract. You have to 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: look and see what the owner did, I mean, to 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: make the clean sweep, which they had not done around 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: here since twenty thirteen, to send the entire defensive coach 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: is coaching staff packing at after all, just bringing them in, 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: you know, it was a serious financial investment, emotional investment 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: in this franchise turning things around by the owner. And 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: I would think if you're a player, you'd want to 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 4: take a bite of that apple now. 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: And you look at some of the players that were 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: like go as well, veteran players here that we're used 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: to seeing, Evan Ingram, Christian Kirk, it's all different now. 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: There's some new free agents that were brought in, so 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces all around. Our second big 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: thing today is going to be fifty. 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: Year option John. 61 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: I think one of the most obvious no brainers of 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: the week. They pick up the fifth year option on 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Trayvon walk And people outside of Jacksonville don't seem to 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: understand as much because I know they don't watch Traylon 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: as much, but obviously this is a no brainer for them. 66 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: What does it mean in terms of a long term 67 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: deal though? Does this affect that at all? 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 6: Well, not really. 69 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: I mean I think it shows certainly, hey, we like 70 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: Trayvon Walker. I think everybody who follows the team knows 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 5: how important Trayvon is and knows what a core piece 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 5: he can be. Necessarily, I don't necessarily think the fact 73 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 5: that they did the fifth year means that they are 74 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: going to do the Trayvon's long term deal in a week. 75 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: It's kind of hard to explain, but when a new 76 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 5: regime comes in, even if a guy is going to 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: be a core player, they've only been around Trayvon the 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: new regime to shake his hand. He's only been around 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: them to shake their hand. There's nothing wrong at this 80 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: point in terms of the long term deal, Brian of 81 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: just saying, hey, you know. 82 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 6: We know this is gonna work, but let's just see. 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 5: It work for a while, see how everybody likes, to 84 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 5: see how you flourish. I don't think there'll be any 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: problem once the time is right to get Trayvon done. 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: And again, the fact that the long term deal hasn't 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: done yet and know it means they don't like Treyvon. 88 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: They love Listen. 89 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it'll take very long high for them 90 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: to decide, Hey, let's get this deal done right, Not 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: that there's any sense of urgency, but when they see 92 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: the way that he works, when they see his physical 93 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: skill set, when they understand what he means to the 94 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: defensive front, they love him. They're going to love him 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 4: even more and they'll get it done. I don't know 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: how it works, if he'll ever play on the fifth 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: year deal, or they get a new year in place 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: and supplant that, or how they'll put it all together, 99 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: but he'll be here and they'll get him a long 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: term deal. And I'll say it one more time. He's 101 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: the first player since Kalaiis Campbell, the first player the 102 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 4: Jaguars have ever drafted that's posted back to back double 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: digit sack seasons. And I can't see any reason John 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: why he wouldn't be the first to have three consecutive 105 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: double digit sack seasons. He may never be the seventeen 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: sack guy that Josh Allen is, right, but he absolutely 107 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: a double digit sack guy year after year after year 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: because of the way you play the game. 109 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: And all the other things he does for the team 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: as well that go unnoticed, but not by the players 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: and of course not by the new coaches. Once they 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: see him in action. So let's do our final big 113 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: things today, which is just over two weeks away. The 114 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: draft is coming up. We've been talking about it's inching 115 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: closer bit by bit Brian. At this point, how set 116 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: is the board? Do they feel like they know what 117 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: they're doing at this point or is it all how 118 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: things fall. 119 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: On the day of Well, you know, most teams are 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: set at this point. They know who they like and 121 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: they know where they like them at, and not just 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: the first round obviously, all the way through the end. 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: But you know, you've got a scouting staff that was here, 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: a general manager who wasn't. They brought in a new 125 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: element with the analytical and strategical side of things, So 126 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised John if they're still tweaking things 127 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: around the edges. 128 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: But my sense is they know who they want. 129 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: You have a good idea of where most guys are 130 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 5: in the draft right now in terms of who they 131 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 5: specifically won at five. Tiss the season for a lot 132 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: of self mocking, and I do that a lot, so 133 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: I know it's about But for them, what it means 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: is you do a lot of scenarios, You do a 135 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 5: lot of Okay, well, what do we like here? If 136 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 5: so and so falls to five and then you do 137 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: a lot of weighing value. I think it's wide open. 138 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I know everybody's mocking Mason Graham right now. 139 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: I don't think he's a lock. I don't think anybody's 140 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 5: a lock. I think there are decisions and discussions being had, 141 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: not right up to the draft, but certainly using these 142 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 5: next few weeks to make sure you're making the right choice. 143 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here on Jagsam. 144 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: We'll dive a little bit deeper, do some this or 145 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: that about what we think they go down in the 146 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: draft in a couple of weeks. 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 7: So the way it played out is the Jaguars have 148 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 7: moved on from head coach Doug Peterson. 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: The Jacks are allegedly down to three. 150 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 7: Final Liam Cohen will remain in Tampa Bay and no 151 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 7: longer be in. 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 4: The meg We are following a local breaking news alert 153 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: involving the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars parted ways with general 154 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: manager Trend Baking. 155 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 7: I did feel an immediate connection. Okay, you know, Shad 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 7: was very clear with where he wanted this organization to 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 7: go moving forward. I was being provided with an opportunity 158 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 7: in Tampa to potentially stay. But this is the goal 159 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 7: and it's at your doorstep. 160 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Jack Vamerin. 161 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: It into a little bit of this or that, but 162 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: that was a tease for the Hunt episode which dropped 163 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: last week. If you haven't checked it out, it's about 164 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: thirty two minutes, I think. 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of it. 166 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: A lot has happened in the off season, but if 167 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: you want to look into that process of everything that 168 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: changed in the front office and the coaching, it's really 169 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: great access that we have. Now We've always done really 170 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: great things with this show, but just to see the 171 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: access we have now, it's spectaculars With Tony and James, 172 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: that's suddenly and Colin, it is excellent. 173 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't get much better than that. 174 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: You know, I've seen a lot and I'm sure you 175 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: guys have two around the League of team produced behind 176 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: the scenes content. Nobody has access better than this team does. 177 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: Now. 178 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is off the charts access and yeah, because 179 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: saying that doesn't happen without leadership buying in Tony, Liham 180 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: and James have been outstanding on that because they want 181 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 5: the fans to see what's going on. 182 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: So you got to give a shot at the crew 183 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: that produces that because there is a lot of passion 184 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: that goes into the early mornings and the late nights 185 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: and the travel and being behind the scenes and developing 186 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: the relationships. 187 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: It's a great production. 188 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they're working on it right now. With all the 189 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: players arriving today for off season workouts voluntary workouts. 190 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little draft though. 191 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: We are just over two weeks away, which is crazy 192 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like we've been talking about for a 193 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: while and we're inching slowly closer to these mocks and 194 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: we don't really know what's going to happen. We are 195 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: currently sitting at the fifth pick. So do we think 196 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: they're going to stay at the pick or are they 197 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: going to trade the pick well, or what's your choice? 198 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: Maybe let's do it that way. 199 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: I think they're going to stay because I think it's 200 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 5: a year where it's going to be hard to trade. 201 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 6: And that's just a guess. You don't know until you're 202 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 6: on the clock. 203 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: But there's been so many years where everybody's talked trade 204 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 5: beforehand and the GM comes out and says, we wouldn't 205 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 5: have minded, but no call. So this feels like that 206 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 5: year because it feels like the two quarterbacks are going. 207 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 6: To go before the Jags. That's just sort of a consensus. 208 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 5: And if there's not a quarterback at five, then a 209 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: lot of people believe that the two great players in 210 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 5: the draft are Carter and Hunter, and at five, you're 211 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: starting that run of good players but not necessarily better 212 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: than the rest. So I think they'd like to trade 213 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 5: but I think most teams would like to trade back 214 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 5: this year, so I think it'll be difficult. 215 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: I'll go from the I'd like to see them trade back, 216 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: but no further than nine because I've been told by 217 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: people that I know in this league that there are 218 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: nine guys that are difference makers, nine guys that have 219 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: true first round grades. 220 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: John, and so. 221 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: If you're gonna go back for this team and the 222 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: roster needs they have, it doesn't it doesn't matter. I mean, 223 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: you get a receiver, you can get a defensive lineman, 224 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: you get an offensive lineman. You have a pick in 225 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: those nine guys, So don't miss on the chance to 226 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: grab one of those. Because you have ten picks this year, 227 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 4: you have eleven picks next year. I never want to 228 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: say that you have enough picks, but you don't have 229 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: enough great difference making players four and thirteen is evidence 230 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: of that. So if I'm gonna move back, I'm only 231 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: going to go back a couple of spots. 232 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, nine's a low number, but it's an accurate number. 233 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 5: It there's a lot of people who think between six 234 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 5: and maybe one hundred that there's really not a huge difference. 235 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 6: That's a little bit of exaggeration. 236 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: But when people talking about this draft, that's what they're 237 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: talking about is there's a lot of good players. There's 238 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 5: about for me know x number up here, and it's 239 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: really deep through the first two. 240 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 6: And a half three rounds. 241 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't back away from the money. 242 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: All right. 243 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: So when we look at the draft as a whole, 244 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: obviously this is the first with the new regime here. 245 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: So how big of a deal is this draft? Obviously 246 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: there's been important drafts in the past, but for this franchise, 247 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: where they're at at this state, is it just the 248 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: next draft or is it really important that they get 249 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: this right. 250 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: No, I think it's really important they get it right. 251 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: And again, you could go defensive line so that they 252 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: could push the pocket and play to their playmakers. 253 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: On the edge. 254 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 4: You could go to the defensive line because of the 255 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: running game. You go to the offensive line because of 256 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: the offensive struggles they've had converting on third down? And one, 257 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: where are the touchdowns coming from? 258 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: Right now that you've let. 259 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: Go of two guys that were incredibly important to your offense, now, 260 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: I think there's a very important draft, John, because you 261 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: need to grab a player that can be a difference 262 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: maker right away. 263 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's important because it's the first draft of James Gladstone, 264 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: and I think he's going to be here for a 265 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: long time. I don't want to necessarily over emphasiz the 266 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 5: importance because it's not necessarily considered a great draft where 267 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: you're going to get great in the second or third round. 268 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: You're gonna get good, solid, So I think it's important 269 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 5: in this sense. If you're James Gladstone, you want to 270 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 5: set the tone for what you're gonna be, the direction 271 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: for what you believe. You want to get good players 272 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 5: and start raising the young. 273 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: Floor of the roster. 274 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 5: He feels like he's already raised the floor. I think 275 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 5: it's really important to get a good start. I don't 276 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 5: know that you're going to get pro you know, three 277 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: pro bowlers out of it. But I think it's important 278 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 5: to get quality at the top and then one or 279 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: two guys in that second or third round that you 280 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 5: feel like are starters by the end of the first year. 281 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us. We're gonna come back a 282 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: little bit. We're gonna get an ozone mail bag. He 283 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: will join us with all of the answers after the break. 284 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: Move the freight, Move the freight. 285 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: Magellan Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonmill can 286 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: apply on line at Magellanlogistics dot com. 287 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: There we go. 288 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: We're bringing back the ozone mail bag, John, and we're 289 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: thrilled you do it every day. So we might as 290 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: well recap some of the good ones. Let's start out 291 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: with Daniel from Saint John's, Florida, who says, do the 292 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars think they solve the offensive line problem short term? 293 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: Or do they think they kind of put duct tape 294 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: on it to give them the freedom to take the 295 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: best available players in the draft? 296 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, this was sort of a funny question to try 297 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: to answer because the answer is sort of yes. I 298 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: mean all that is or but it's sort of the 299 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 5: same thing, meaning they think they got better. I don't 300 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 5: want to portray them thinking that they went out and 301 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: signed the five best offensive linemen in the league. You know, 302 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: so can you continue to get better? 303 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: You know? 304 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 6: Is it duct tape? 305 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 5: Well in a sense that you drafted guys you feel 306 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 5: like are capable starters and make you better. But Brian, 307 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 5: I think they still believe that. Okay, say you were here, 308 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: now you got to hear and they want to keep 309 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: getting here. So all of that is, yes, they feel 310 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: like they're better, but everything they didn't free agency was 311 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: done with the idea of being able to go draft 312 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: the best available player. If they think there's a great 313 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: lineman out there, they're gonna take them at five. But 314 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think that they're gonna go that direction 315 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 5: at five. 316 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: Listen, a franchise that espouses that the draft is how 317 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: they're going to build, then free agency is duct tack 318 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: and that's the mindset that they're trying to get to. 319 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: Right now, they absolutely got better. 320 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna find out exactly what they think based on 321 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: where they draft offensive lineman. I mean, I know we're 322 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: all focused on one, but on Night two, they've got 323 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: a second and two third round picks. And this is 324 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: a good draft at the top for offensive lineman, especially 325 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: in the middle as you get into rounds two, three, 326 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: and four. So you know, we can say duct tape 327 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: right now. But if they draft an offensive lineman in 328 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: the second round and in the fourth round, is that 329 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: duct tape? 330 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: I just think when you look. 331 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: At it, we're going to find out more when we 332 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: get through the draft about what they feel about their 333 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: offensive line. 334 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: And unfortunately we've seen depth is very important at offensive 335 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: line considering the injuries, so you can never have enough there. 336 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: Our second question for Ozone's gonna be Tony from John's 337 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: Craig Georgia says, maybe the Jags trade back a spot 338 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: or two and select Ashton genty. He along with running 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: backs Travesy Tan Junior and Tank Bixby would make a 340 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: loaded backfield. I say, maybe too many in the backfield, 341 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: but I have heard some smoke about this. 342 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 5: It's hard to say what they would do it if 343 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 5: they did take uh Gent. I don't necessarily think that 344 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: it's a lot that they have to trade back to tape. 345 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: I mean there are considered. Again, we talked about it earlier. 346 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: Two great players Carter and. 347 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: Hunter. But a lot of people think that ad a 348 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 6: Gent's right there with them. 349 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: The position devalue makes it a trick to take at 350 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: number five. But if you're talking about the three players 351 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 5: in the draft who people think stand above the rest, 352 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 5: he's one of them. 353 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 6: So could they take him. 354 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: I think there's a handful of players they could take 355 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: who sort of fit that. 356 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: Bill. 357 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 5: I think he's right in there. What would they do 358 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: running back in this situation? Sometimes, Brian, it's harder to 359 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: trade backs, meaning running backs than people think because you're 360 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 5: not necessarily gonna get the value. Sometimes it's better just 361 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: to keep those as on your roster because you're gonna 362 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: get more from having them than trading them. 363 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 6: I think it'd be a tough spot. 364 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: We talked earlier about touchdowns, and two years ago Travis 365 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: Etn gave you eleven touchdowns, So you know, perhaps he 366 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: could be worked into a role where he becomes a 367 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: touchdown maker. 368 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: I listen, I've been told. 369 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: That on the high end, Genty looks like a young 370 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: Ladanian Tomlinson, right, and on the low end he looks 371 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: like Christian McCaffrey. 372 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: I mean, both of these guys are prolific. 373 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: Touchdown scorers, and you you don't have Christian Kirk is gone, 374 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: Evan Ingram is gone. Who are the touchdown makers last year? 375 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: The only guy left is Brian Thomas Junior. You need 376 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: people who scored touchdowns. This guy scored what twenty six 377 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: last year. I've got no problem with they decide to 378 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: take this running back because he looks like he is special, 379 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 4: even if he's not Ladanian Tomlinson, who's at the league 380 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 4: record with thirty one touchdowns in two thousand and six. 381 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: If he's the guy that McCaffrey was two years ago 382 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: when he was the Offensive Player of the Year and 383 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: scored twenty six touchdowns. 384 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: Take it. 385 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, for perspective, you tend to forget as guys move on. 386 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 6: Ladanian might be the best back in the last twenty years. 387 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 5: Oh and I know there are Derrick Henry. There are 388 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: guys who be on that conversation as well, Adrian Peterson. 389 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 6: But I mean, if he's Ladanian, who. 390 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: Was a high level I haven't looked at his numbers lately, 391 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 5: but it felt like high level for seven or eight years, 392 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 5: then number five is not too Would number five be 393 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: too high for Fred? 394 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: No? 395 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 5: No, So if he's Fred, which that's the conversation, Ladanian 396 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: is up there to me with the Fred Taylor of 397 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 5: the world. If he's that, then number five and two. 398 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: If the Bears took Curtis Enis at five, ye, so, 399 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: and they would have rather had Fred. 400 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: Listen, you need touchdown may. 401 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 6: Common to take me instead. 402 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably. 403 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: So. 404 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: You need touchdown scorers, touchdown makers on this roster. 405 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: You don't have enough of them. 406 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: So you know, whether it's a running back or receiver, 407 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: a tight end, they're all available in those you know, 408 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: those nine players most people think belong there in the 409 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: first round. Give me any of the three of them, 410 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: and it makes this offense explosive. And don't forget, by 411 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: the way, it's worth noting that last year Liam Cohen, 412 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 4: in his year as the offensive coordinator for the Tampa 413 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: Bay Buccaneers, took a running game that was near the 414 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 4: bottom of the league and moved them into the top five. 415 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: And you saw what it did for Baker Mayfield's career 416 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: career best forty one touchdown passes. 417 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: So imagine that this on the. 418 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 4: Field with your quarterback and Brian Thomas Jr. It's pretty 419 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: exciting to sort of let the scenarios play out. 420 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exciting to be at a point now where 421 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: you could say anything besides quarterback, and I wouldn't be 422 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: surprised if they picked that position for the draft. So 423 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool to see how they build this together. 424 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 6: All right. 425 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Final ozone mailbag questions runs from JP. I don't know 426 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: if it's our JP, he says, I saw we can 427 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: now wear our throwbacks four times a year. 428 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: I guess we're getting at least four wins this season. 429 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 5: Well, I played Agrans. I don't know if they can 430 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 5: wear them all four times. I think they can. I 431 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: think what the rule is from what I have read, 432 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: a version of an alternate jersey can be worn four 433 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 5: times rather than three. In the pasture, I think there 434 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 5: will be a thought of wearing the prowlers as often 435 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: as you can. 436 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I don't know what the rules are either. 437 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: At this point, they're changing year to year. It's clear 438 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: though that there is a lot of money to be 439 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: made in alternate uniforms and alternate helmet. Look at what 440 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: college football, especially what Oregon has done. We're getting to 441 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: the point where you feel like maybe they're just gonna 442 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: take all the rules off and it's going to be 443 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: where what you want. 444 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 5: I doubt the NFL will ever do that because they 445 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: like The NFL really likes people who can be in 446 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 5: a sports bar without the sound and know that they're 447 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: seeing a certain team, but. 448 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 4: Half the schedule now is in an alternate uniform. They're 449 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: getting closer. 450 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 5: I don't think they'll go where it's Oregon where you 451 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: can basically see or May Maryland a few years back, 452 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: where like they were in purple at some point. 453 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: I think so. 454 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 5: I don't think they'll go to that degree, but they're 455 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: going further than I ever thought they woul. 456 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're putting a lot of emphasis there on the 457 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 4: merchandising side of things, and that's what the NFL does well. 458 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 3: They make money. 459 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Many shades of teal will figure it out at some point, 460 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be mad if they did the throwbacks 461 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: four times. 462 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: Here. 463 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: Stay with us. 464 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: We'll tell you what's coming up the rest of the 465 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: week here and what you can expect before the draft, 466 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: which exam brought to you by Fresh from Florida. It's 467 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: always in season. 468 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: And what the Gators are. 469 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: On top today, I shouldn't give a shout out to them. 470 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of them in the building. They've 471 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: been telling me about it. 472 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: I have heard it yet, this. 473 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: One right here, well yeah, I mean, John doesn't throw 474 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: in your face. 475 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 5: I'm not a huge athletics fan compared to a lot 476 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 5: of people in the building, but I did get a 477 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: little bit into this team the last two weeks, and 478 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 5: because some friends of mine cover the team, so I 479 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: kind of follow them. And they're an impressive champion the 480 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 5: way they won it, so it was kind of cool 481 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 5: to see. 482 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm a college troops guy, went to Kansas and 483 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: so I think I know a thing or two about it. 484 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: But to watch that. 485 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: Team take Houston, which that defense was as good of 486 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: a college basketball defense as I've seen since Nolan Richardson's 487 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: forty Minutes of Hell if you remember that at Arkansas, 488 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: man was a good and for Florida to take pune 489 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 4: after ponge after punch down twelve in the bonus with 490 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 4: thirteen minutes to play in the half, I thought, well, 491 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 4: this one's over, and Florida just kept standing in there, 492 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: taking the punch and delivering, and then of course the 493 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 4: guard comes alive at the end with a couple of 494 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: big three point shots. It was a really fun game 495 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 4: to watch, even though it was what sixty five sixty three. 496 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 6: Now you talk about mental toughness for a college player. 497 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: For Clayton to have the kind of half he did 498 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: and then hit huge shots in the second over watching 499 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: sports for a long time, you see a lot of 500 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 5: people melt when they don't have a great you know, 501 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: expectations high, and it looked like it didn't even affect 502 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: mem It was like an iceman and then hit huge shots. 503 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 6: They don't win the championship without him. 504 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: It was cool. 505 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't follow college basketball like I did 506 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: a long time ago when I was covering it. I 507 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: covered Florida's first Final four in ninety four, So it 508 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: was good. Yeah, A Lone was a good, very good 509 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 5: coach Kansa, and it was cool to see a team 510 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: that you felt like was doing it the right way. 511 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: It was fun to watch. 512 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: March is such a special time of year. So congratulations 513 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: to the Gators. The champions as i've seen, got very good. 514 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: John. 515 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: What's going on this week? They're coming in there wretching. 516 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: I can do some squats, but they can't touch football's yet. 517 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 518 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 6: I had a little stretching this morning. About the same 519 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: on board. 520 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: Here is I mean, so much of this week is meetings. 521 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: It's getting to know these guys and it's really starting 522 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 5: to jump into the schemes. 523 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 6: In terms of meetings, the on. 524 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 5: Field stuff is stole aways off by rule. So but 525 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: one final thing if people haven't heard it. The ozone 526 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 5: podcast last week was Rams General Manager Less Snead. I 527 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: usually don't, you know, promote that much on this show 528 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 5: something else, but the less Snead was really fascinating. His 529 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 5: thoughts on what Tony Biselli means the organization or that 530 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: kind of a vision can mean, and obviously his thoughts 531 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 5: on Gladstone and Cohen, who he knows well. It was 532 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 5: interesting stuff that I would recommend if you're interested in 533 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: what these. 534 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 6: Guys are about to go back and. 535 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: Listen to that absolutely. 536 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Now before we get out of here today, I do 537 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: you want to mention one addition to our production department 538 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: here at Jaguars we have Elizabeth Hockman is our newest 539 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: addition here to Jaguars AM, which is our I guess 540 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: he has many titles. I will say editor, photog, just general. 541 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: He's in my phone. 542 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: Is mad Max, John's favorite person. 543 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 6: Max. He's the best, but he's. 544 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: Responsible for all of the Maximus he's responsible for all 545 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: of the miked up content that you guys love so much. 546 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: But we have baby Elizabeth Hakman that is joining us 547 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: and very cute. 548 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: We love baby. 549 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: Photos, so I had to share. But Max will be 550 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: out for a while. He'll be back for micd up 551 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: during the season. But congratulations to them. 552 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Mom. 553 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: Katie is doing well as well and exciting. First, any 554 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: dad advice did you guys give him any dad advice? 555 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, Max has the same outfit, so 556 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 6: he doesn't love pink. 557 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: He does love pink. 558 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: No, Max and Katie will be great parents because they're 559 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 5: great people. 560 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: My advice for him was before the baby arrived, to 561 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 4: enjoy sleeping because he's not going to get as much 562 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: of it as he's accustomed to. 563 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: For the next Max like some naps, so I'll have 564 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: to figure that out. Get on the right schedule. Anyway, 565 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week on Jagula.