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Speaker 1: Ben is? It? Just like sidekicking this thing. UM, email

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Speaker 1: us at Benn and Ashley at I heart radio dot com. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a big announcement, Ashley, talk to me. It's been

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Speaker 1: a week since we last spoke. A lot has happened

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's official resignation. UM, A lot of thoughts, a

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Speaker 1: lot of a pain ens on that. Mostly I know

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Speaker 1: you and I both kind of just texted back and forth.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from the listeners on their thoughts

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Speaker 1: and opinions. I mean, I think that's really where we're

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Speaker 1: gonna understand, like what's going on. But also in your life,

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Speaker 1: I know there's some updates? What's going on? Is there? Really?

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Speaker 1: It's it's been a week. Sweetde to pretend like there's

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Speaker 1: been updates. Um, now I can't say there is. Ben,

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Speaker 1: has there been any updates in your life? Well, it's

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Speaker 1: been a big week. Uh, I see, I knew that

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Speaker 1: It's just been a big week. Uh. Well, my my

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Speaker 1: showing there we had. We went to Red Rocks. If

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Speaker 1: You're going. That was one of the coolest things ever.

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Speaker 1: the I mean, I've talked about it before. I am

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Speaker 1: I find very creepy but also very enjoyable. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: you made me think about the things that I did

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Speaker 1: It was cool, but we talked a lot about Chris

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us again for the Almost Famous Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're about to dive in deep to the second episode

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Speaker 1: Harrison's departure, and we're gonna sit down with Ali Fedotowski,

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Speaker 1: one of Bachelor Nation's favorite bachelorette's here in just a bit.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my gosh, I would have

427
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: like I would have just been even more insecure if

428
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 1: I had these two beautiful women sitting next to me,

429
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: like I would in my mind, I'd keep thinking, I

430
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: wonder which one of these guys wishes they were on

431
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: last season of the Bachelotte with Tasha, you know, like

432
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: what if they applied for her season, because you know

433
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: that happens a lot. A guy will apply, somebody will mind,

434
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: they'll get pushed to the next season because they will

435
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: make it, or even their quarantined, right and how you're

436
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: quarantine at the beginning of the season for a couple

437
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: of weeks and some people get let go as extras,

438
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: Like what if one of those guys was supposed to

439
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: be unclair tatious season and then I don't know anyway,

440
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: So I feel kind of for her. And maybe Katie's

441
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: way more like secure with herself than I am. I

442
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: think she is um or at least than I was

443
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 1: back then. But I just thinking that for her. It's

444
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: interesting to hear you say that, because I think every

445
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: lead I've talked to after doing it has had similar

446
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: feelings to like you, to what you had. I mean,

447
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: I know I did. I just think it's it's probably

448
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: very human to feel like, hey, I don't want to

449
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: deserve to be here too. There's no way thirty people

450
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: are that interested in me to date me at one

451
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: time and like stick around and go through this for me.

452
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week. We brought up that

453
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: question because Ashley and I both said, hey, I remember

454
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: during my season of The Bachelor, like I had girls

455
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: that you know, had a little crush on Harrison or

456
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 1: they had a little crush on a producer. Now not

457
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: that they were ever acting on it, not that that

458
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: was ever like a thing that it was kind of

459
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: a joke, But you're so insecure that like those things

460
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: start to like poke at you a little bit over time,

461
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: and so we robbed a question last week, Hey, would

462
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: this feel weird to you? Like, would it be odd

463
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: to have too beautiful people who were recently on the

464
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: show standing next to you? Like this? Is that added

465
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: different fact or a different level to the show? Yeah,

466
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: I think so, for sure? For sure for all the

467
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: reason times stated like I would just be like, can

468
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: you guys like stop looking so pretty next to me? Like,

469
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean, Katie does seem very confident

470
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: in yourself, Like I love how she's handled so many things, um,

471
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, even from letting And I'm not going to

472
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: know any of the guy's names, so I'm just gonna

473
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: sort of like I feel like at the beginning of the

474
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: the season, I never know, I just like refer to situations. Yeah,

475
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: like the guy who was like famous, She was like,

476
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you go because I hearsay I'm letting

477
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: you go because there's no trust already. Like I thought

478
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: that was so like intuitive of her to even use

479
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: those words like I would I would have let him go,

480
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: but I would have liked been like, oh, it's because

481
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't really like you that much. And this guy

482
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: says you're bad bye. You know, like she found a

483
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: really smart way to say like there's already no trust

484
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I just I appreciate her and

485
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, she's definitely some maturity to her.

486
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean she showed it to us in last season

487
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: when she uh stood up for the bully in the house.

488
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: She mentioned that there's a big group message with a

489
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: whole bunch of former bachelorettes guiding her along the way.

490
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: I assuming you're in it? How I we just told

491
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: me about it and I wasn't. How active is this thread?

492
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Obviously the last thing I'll tell you the last thing

493
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: that was we all get in trouble for this. Depending

494
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: on what it says, I will hold on. How do

495
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: I even I look it up? It's under just b

496
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: s here it is okay, uh oh, it's just Caitlin

497
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: Bristo saying so fun, You're so freaking cue and relatable.

498
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: It's amazing. So it's very supportive. Um, you know, we're

499
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: always all there for each other. One thing I will say,

500
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: it's been really great about this group, Like we text

501
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot when it's you know, we we welcome Katie

502
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: into the group. Here are the last text before that

503
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: were like, um, so like June three, June five. Actually

504
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of more May twenty two. Every couple of weeks,

505
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: I would say, it gets like active and then dies down.

506
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: But I will say, like every time someone has a project,

507
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: like a podcast or something, everybody's like, yeah, what can

508
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: I post? Give me the link? And so I find

509
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: like that, like women's supporting woman is really great. Um yeah,

510
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: So I think we're all just kind of they're like

511
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: hyping each other up and trying to be supportive and

512
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: give advice. And it's funny because the group was kind

513
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: of like it didn't grow that much for so long,

514
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: Like you get one a new person a year, right,

515
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: but the last like eight months, we've gotten four new

516
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: We've got Claire indentation, and then now you know, yeah, Michelle,

517
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's fun Who started the threat, Like who

518
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: came up with it? Probably trist Up. Trist is all

519
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: about bringing people together. I feel like my mother and

520
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: the mother of the franchise. I decided while watching this

521
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: episode that I preferred The Bachelor at over The Bachelor.

522
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a more romantic series, and I think

523
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: that might have something to do with the fact that

524
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: they decided to do two back to back. Oh, because

525
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: people like it more, you think, But aren't the ratings worse?

526
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: The ratings are worse, But it is because I do

527
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: believe it's because the time of the year, because it's

528
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: the summertime. Possibly. Real funny thing though, before we go

529
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: off the text chain, So we've had this text chain

530
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: for a long time, and then we're we're texting there,

531
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: like some of the things we text each other are

532
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: like kind of you know, crazy and girl talking whatever.

533
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: You can imagine. We're drinking wine texting each other like

534
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: we used to zoom at the beginning of the quarantine

535
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: and drink wine together. Um. At one point during the

536
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: text chain had been going on for like a year,

537
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this person text the

538
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: chain says, I don't know who all of you are.

539
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: Can you please take me off this group message. I

540
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: think it was my fault as I had Caitlin Bristow's

541
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: old phone number. I had put that in because we

542
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: were like putting the gad together and I it was

543
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: We laughed so hard, like some person out there in

544
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: this world. Those things about the Bachelor and Bachelor franchise

545
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: that nobody should know, and that is amazing. Ali, I

546
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: would I mean, I hope it's like a super fan

547
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: who now is hearing this and listen to the podcast.

548
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: It's like I literally could have just stayed quiet and

549
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: I could have had all of the info. Oh my gosh,

550
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: the headlines that person could have sent over so good.

551
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's got to be someone that's never

552
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: seen the show before because they would have known who

553
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: we were. Well, Ali, uh, we are going to break

554
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: down the episode with you. You are expert. Um Ashley

555
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: always guides us through these episode breakdowns, so I'm gonna

556
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: pass it off to her. Thanks for sticking around for this.

557
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: You're the best I'm gonna be here from my commentary,

558
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: but I feel like you can really speak some wisdom

559
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: into what's going on behind the scenes of the said.

560
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the first group date. We

561
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: have Christian Garrett, Trey, Courtney, Mike p James, Justin, Thomas

562
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: connor By, and Carl. They all get invited on a

563
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: date and it's pretty known right off the bat that

564
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: this guy Carl is annoying the guys, And at first

565
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, guys, just annoying, Right, He's just

566
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the annoying guy. He's not going to be bad, and

567
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: then we see later in the episode there's actually like

568
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of bad. Um who what were the standout moments

569
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: on this group date for you? Oh my gosh, I

570
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: literally just watched the episode an hour ago and you're

571
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: forgetting already. What was the group date? Yeah, I'm thinking

572
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. Okay, what they did was with the

573
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Heather mc with Heather McDonald, they were supposed to do.

574
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: They're supposed to like express why they were the greatest lover.

575
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: They're all okay, And Carl's the guy who went up

576
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: and just started yelling obscenities and then later the episode

577
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: had the white boards and all that. Yeah, Carl is

578
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: the one who like started drama at the cocktail party. So, yeah,

579
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Carl will be gone soon or he's gonna stick around

580
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: for drama sick. But Kay seems like she's not necessarily

581
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: doing that whole thing because the way she let Cody go,

582
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: But that's later in the episode. Will get there then, Okay, Yeah,

583
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: so let's go have the McDonald on stage talking about

584
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: how the guys are gonna have to prove basically how

585
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: sexual they are. I immediately am like, okay, so we're

586
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: getting a date like this every single season I had.

587
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: I was the host of the date last time when

588
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: the guys are the girls had to tell Matt you

589
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: know read read it eroica yeah to him, and I

590
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: thought that was, like, you know, it was fun. And

591
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I'm not down for the over sexualization,

592
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: but my date was fun. I think you can like

593
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: really convert it into something romantic, like they like to

594
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: pretend like you're gonna have to be like super sexual,

595
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: but then like all these guys and the girls on mine,

596
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: you can make it sweet, you can make it romantic.

597
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: And I was really really feeling for Mike the virgin

598
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: of course, oh my gosh, literally beautifully, Oh my god.

599
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: But I was feeling so awkward for him. But way

600
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: for him to turn an awkward situation into something so beautiful.

601
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: M h And I don't know. I mean, again, like

602
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: you said earlier, I can't believe that he, like she

603
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: was able to handle it with such grace and with

604
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: the perfect word choice. Same with him. You're given like

605
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: an hour to come up with something, and he came

606
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: up with that beautiful piece of writing and described it

607
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: and just like the classiest way, and and he just

608
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: got so much respect from Katie and the other guys.

609
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: I loved it so much. I did too, because I

610
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes too, like whenever there's a like well,

611
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I I feel like sometimes with virginity on

612
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: the show, like it can be looked at as I

613
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: mean it's like non experienced, right, or like, oh, he's

614
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: not gonna know what he's doing. But it's almost like

615
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: the way he did it, it was like you were

616
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: like the sexiest man ever. Oh my god, exactly just

617
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: said are so sexy, and like when you do get

618
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: in bed, oh my gosh, you are going to like,

619
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, want a woman's world. So I feel

620
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: like you're right, he couldn't have done it better. Um,

621
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: And I think especially under the circumstances, like I mean,

622
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: you know from experience what it's like being on the

623
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: show and having that like pressure of like having to

624
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: talk to somebody about your sexual status. Well that's what

625
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I was so stressed about, is because like when I

626
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: told Chris Souls, I was not ready to do so,

627
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: and I felt very uncomfortable given the timing that I

628
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: was to do so. And I need a little bit

629
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: more time than I think I did it week three

630
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: or four, and he's having to do this, like the

631
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: third day he's actually there and he's probably said five

632
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: words to her, and then here he has to tell her. Oh.

633
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I had so much sympathy for him, and you could

634
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: see how emotional he was over it and how like

635
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: not ready he was, and for him to to be

636
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: able to turn it around and you're right to just

637
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: see it seems so desirable. We asked Katie last week,

638
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: when you find when you know, speaking in future tense,

639
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: where like when you find out about his virginity, like,

640
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: how are you going to take it? Like? Is it

641
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: a turn off even for somebody like you who you know,

642
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: you talk, you know, you're very open about your sex life.

643
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: And she was like, I was even surprised by my

644
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: own reaction, and it was a great reaction. I cried.

645
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: I cried twice during this episode. Yeah, and you know that,

646
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, don't I know already the second time

647
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: you cried because I'm bawling my eyes out. I cannot

648
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: wait to talk about that. But yeah, let's talk about that. Actually,

649
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: can we talk about that the second time? Yeah? Because

650
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: that's the next one, it's the It's the It's the

651
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: date with of course. Well before we skip ahead, just

652
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about how Mike ends up getting the award,

653
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: but Thomas ends up getting the group date Rose and

654
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: they had like the steamiest kiss ever where he dragged

655
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: her on his lap and I don't know that, Like,

656
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think this was gonna be Katie's type. He

657
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me like a Josh Murray, like a

658
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: Gastone figure, but she's into him. They talked about how

659
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: they have this indescribable chemistry that it's just they definitely

660
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: seen that. But I don't know that I would call

661
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: any of the makeout sessions in this hot and steamy

662
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: they've done. I don't know what it is if things

663
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: are like getting forced too soon, but every makeup team

664
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: has just seemed extremely forced and awkward to me so far.

665
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: But it could just be early in the season and

666
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: they'll get there. I really don't because I feel like

667
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm watching this. This is week one and you know,

668
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: we've I think it was two guys this time, you

669
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: know said can I kiss you now? Which is a

670
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: great thing to do, very respectable, but like it was

671
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: almost because I feel awkward and now I don't know

672
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: what to do, and so I'm gonna ask this because

673
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: we're still like unfamiliar with It wasn't like out of

674
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: a respect and out of like it was more like,

675
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: I just feel awkward right now, and I feel like

676
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: I need to kiss you, so can I because that

677
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: would help this moment exactly. And they all go in

678
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: really fast and then like try to slow and down.

679
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: It's just something about it. I don't know. And there's

680
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of awkward, quirky guys in this season,

681
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: which I love, like that type awkward quirky, and I'm

682
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: in like, that's what my husband is. I love awkward quirky,

683
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: but like it's just it makes for interesting makeout session.

684
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: One note here that I've never brought up, but you

685
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: bring up a great point. Ali and Ashley, I'm sure

686
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: you've experienced this, and I'm sure listeners have all experienced this. Also,

687
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: you know what's more awkward than um than even the

688
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: initial kiss or approach, like you're kissing strangers. It's like

689
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: a second date. Maybe hey, all good, you do get

690
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, But the moment that gets most

691
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: awkward and even watching this season, I see like we're

692
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: I feel like we're seeing it more is when the

693
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: kiss ends and both people are sitting there like, oh

694
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: that was good. Yeah that was the analysis part. Yeah,

695
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: it's so cringeing to watch. And I remember those moments

696
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: because you're like, we were kissing because we didn't have

697
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: anything else to talk about. Now we just kissed, and

698
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: we still don't have anything else to talk about except

699
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: that this was a kiss, and so we're just gonna

700
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: sit here and analyze it, and then we're hoping somebody

701
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: comes in and breaks it up so we can go.

702
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Like those moments to me, I just they're awful to watch.

703
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: It's so funny and so true and so true. All right,

704
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: let's get let's give ahead now to Greg's one on

705
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: one date, the second moment that made Ali and I cry.

706
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Greg and Katie end up going on a like camp

707
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: camping sort of fishing date and great. You know, they

708
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: have good chemistry. We like Greg. You know, we saw

709
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: him last week and got the first impression Rose. He

710
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: was the one who said I'm so awkward, Like how

711
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: do I'm is so nervous. I'm so nervous, And she knows.

712
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: She told us last week that she gave him the

713
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: first impression rose because she wanted him to kind of

714
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: calm down and to show him like I really like you,

715
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: so like just chill out. Yeah, can I tell you

716
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: something interesting? Yeah? Really's interesting for me when I was watching.

717
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: So when I was watching their date, I kept thinking,

718
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: something is off. Oh my god, I was like he's

719
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: hiding something. He's not saying something. Yes, but I thought

720
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: of it like I was taking at the negative row.

721
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: I'm like to break her heart. He's going to break

722
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: her heart. Like I was so like, this guy's not

723
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: he's holding something back. Like I'm like I almost don't know,

724
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: like is he not as in as to her as

725
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: she is into him? And so I was like I

726
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: and I hated it because I just love them together

727
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: and I think they're so precious together. I was like

728
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: something's gonna come out later on in the season and

729
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: like he's going to break her heart. And that's why

730
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: I was so like emotional in the next scene when

731
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: we see him open up at dinner and say like,

732
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: well I lost my dad too, Like uh, like I

733
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: just was a attle on the floor because I was

734
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: like the reason he felt like we felt watching like

735
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: he was holding some bas because he was, and for

736
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: him to like give I don't know. I don't know

737
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: why he chose to wait to tell her about his dad,

738
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: But in my mind the reason is um whatever reason

739
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: it is, it doesn't matter. That's his choice to share

740
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: that information when he sees fit. But in my mind,

741
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: he did it because that was her moment to talk

742
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: about her dad, and like he gave her that moment

743
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: and then later to come. It was just so beautiful

744
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: and it felt meant to be. And if they end

745
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: up together, like I feel like that's their dad's setting

746
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: them up, like so sweet. I was looking at his

747
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: face and it just seemed I kept thinking to myself,

748
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: this guy his dad died too. I feel like his

749
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: dad died too. Why isn't he saying anything he felt that, Yes,

750
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: that's so intuitive of you. So when he decides to

751
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: do it at dinner, I wonder if she had a

752
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: moment where she was like, why didn't she tell me

753
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: this earlier? Well, I would say to like, you know,

754
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: pain takes time, and even watching his face, I I mean,

755
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: maybe I've missed it. Getting to know Katie, uh, which

756
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, we talked to her last weekel and we're like,

757
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: we don't really don't know you, like at all, Like, well,

758
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, you weren' around last season much and then

759
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: like even the first episode didn't really highlight you as

760
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: much as we would want. So this was a you know,

761
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: a shock to me or new information to me that

762
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: she had lost her father. I wonder in that moment,

763
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean I I I know, in moments of deep pain,

764
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: like I wonder if he was so taken back that

765
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: he's like I can't just come and say, oh, me too,

766
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: because it hurt him so deeply, like that was still

767
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: such a fresh moon that he wasn't expecting to have

768
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: to open back up, and so him taking time for

769
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: at dinner, like I'm sure Katie gets it too, like

770
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: it probably took her weeks to even mentally prepare for

771
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: the moment she was going to tell somebody on this

772
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: season that she lost her father. And so he was like, yeah, one,

773
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean I would love to say, because he seems

774
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: like a good dude, Like out of respect, he was like,

775
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you your moment to talk about your dad.

776
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Who knows Like in those moments, I don't know if

777
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: we're like it takes a very wise human to like

778
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: process that much in that bad time. Um, maybe he did,

779
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: who knows, or he was just like, I can't yet,

780
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: I need us a moment before I even start talking

781
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: about because if I do that, this now like I

782
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: don't know where this goes, Like I don't know how

783
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: how heavy this comes out. And so it felt like

784
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: to me he had prepared himself, he was respectful to her,

785
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: and then he was able to communicate his dad's story

786
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: in a way that was beautiful in the right time,

787
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: in the right moment um. And and this is why

788
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: maybe this second episode was I thought so good. Was

789
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: right away we have two really real moments that I

790
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: that we all love watching. We have Mike uh having

791
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: the wisdom and the time to do something really difficult,

792
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: but also seeing how the guys respected him and responded,

793
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: and how Katie responded, and then we had Greg. These

794
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: are two moments that like are huge pivot points in

795
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: their life, and we were goot to see it in

796
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: one episode. That's a big deal, very authentic, genuine moments.

797
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. This is why I left

798
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: this episode being like I like the Bachelorette more because

799
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: the last time I felt these things was watching Tatious season.

800
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: I love that they're giving us the romance, they're giving

801
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: us the depth and the emotion that we asked for.

802
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: And there was so much little, little, such little drauma

803
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, and I do, like I think when

804
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: I chose to be the bachelorette, I went in with

805
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: such this thought of like I was guided here by

806
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: whatever that is or what you know, something was guiding

807
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: me to be the bachelorette, and like I was there

808
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: for a reason, I was supposed to meet somebody on

809
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: there for a reason. I had all these sort of

810
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: like spiritual and emotional things tied into it. So I

811
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: can only imagine for Katie. You know, she probably feels

812
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that too, Like my dad's watching over me.

813
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: There's a reason I'm here, and like, I don't know,

814
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I just think it's so beautiful. And I think if

815
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: they do end up together, like they're gonna like, I

816
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: just think that date is going to be like one

817
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: of the most special moments in times of their lives.

818
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Like they'll look back on that day and be like,

819
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: our dad set this up for us. That's where we're here.

820
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: This is one of the most special days of my life.

821
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: I just it was so beautiful. I loved every every

822
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: second of it. And the fact that both dads took

823
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: the kids fishing, I know, I know then they kissed

824
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: that a toilet. I was gonna was like that boat.

825
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: It was just really funny. You know what it reminds

826
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: me of, Uh, this is ridiculous, you know, wedding crashers.

827
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: He's sitting on the toilet and she comes in. I

828
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: felt like that's how this was going, Like this is

829
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: getting weird. I wonder if they realize that he's still

830
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: sitting on a toilet. And finally they made a joke

831
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: of it, which I'm glad because if they wouldn't have

832
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: said anything, I would be like that had to be

833
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: like somebody had to say something, So that was That

834
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: was a funny moment. I mean, it's really foreshadow and

835
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: for the future because all the best marriages, especially you'll

836
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: find out Ben when you if you guys decide to

837
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: have kids one day that throughout your marriage it's really

838
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: all talk about, like your relationship and poop. It's like,

839
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you how many times Kevin and

840
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: I ask each other about the kids about movements or whatever. Alright,

841
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: so let's talk about the last group day. It was

842
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: mud wrestling. Caitlin and Taitia woke up all the guys

843
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: early mud wrestling. As I've said to zillion times, not

844
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: my favorite kinds of dates. You don't get to know

845
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: about the guys. Like even though like the Sex States

846
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: can be raunchy, at least you get to see what

847
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: they do with the situation like this. In this case,

848
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: they're literally dis wrestling in the mud. You don't get

849
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: to know them. Um, this is the day of every season, right,

850
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: the physical violence dates. Get rid of them. I hate them.

851
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: I hate them me too. That's nothing they did Olive

852
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: oil wrestling. I mean, come on, guys, let's get a

853
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: little bit more original on my season wrestling mud wrestling.

854
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: It's like all the same it, um it was. It

855
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: wasn't in Italy. Gosh, I think it was a freaky

856
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: Turkey Okay, that makes sense, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

857
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: And I was just I hated it. I remember being like,

858
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: why are we doing this? Like this is so pointless.

859
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: So I wish they would do away with those. Okay.

860
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: So the only thing that really came out of this

861
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: is that there was some beef between Aaron, Aaron and Cody,

862
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: which we saw last week for a split second during

863
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: like the original cocktail party, and we're like, what the

864
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: heck is that random spat? And now we learned that

865
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: the two of them knew each other in San Diego,

866
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: and Aaron, who seemed like the dramatic one last week,

867
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: it was actually the one in the right. He said

868
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: last week, I've never liked you since the moment I

869
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: met you, And we thought it was super dramatic because

870
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: they're like, you met this guy an hour ago, but

871
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: really they had known each other for a while and

872
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: apparently Cody had led onto that he was there for

873
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. He's like an unkind dude. And when

874
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: Aaron got time with Katie because he won that the

875
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: mud wrestling, he let her know about these issues. And

876
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: did we not love the way that Katie dealt with Cody,

877
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Like she sat him down. He had no good answers

878
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: to this, Like he didn't even deny the things that

879
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: that Aaron was saying about him. And then she was like,

880
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: you know what, gut feeling says, no, Like you said,

881
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: what did you say that? There's no trust, no trust

882
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: and then she sent to home and I'm like, can

883
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: we deal with all conflicts this painlessly? I know? Right?

884
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: And the thing is too that I really liked that

885
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: she said. She said that like if someone had approached me,

886
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: my face would have said it all and like his

887
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: face said nothing, like your face said, you're hiding something,

888
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: You're prepared for this, Like so she's right, Like, I mean,

889
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: she made the right decision and you know, like you said,

890
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: if only all decisions could be that way. But then again,

891
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: if they all were that way, it wouldn't be the

892
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: best sort because if I could have handled every scenario

893
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: like that on my season, I would have. But sometimes

894
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: the drama just tested drag on, you know. For Cody,

895
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: it was really odd to me. I don't think I've

896
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: ever seen a more emotionless exit. Like he didn't even

897
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: try to defend himself or say no, this isn't true,

898
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: or Katie, I'm really sorry that this is going down

899
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: this way, like this isn't what I am feeling. It

900
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: was just like, Okay, well, I hope you find your guy.

901
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: It's like, no, if somebody is literally calling me out,

902
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: if somebody is literally I mean and telling the person

903
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to know that I'm not a

904
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: good dude, Like at least I have a rebuttal or,

905
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: at least there's something. It was so nothing. It was

906
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: just like, okay, see you later by what like what

907
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: just happened? You? Just like are you not mad? Are

908
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: you like upset? Are you like? I don't know? It

909
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: was that was really odd for me to see. Really.

910
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: It was like he was caught right handed and was

911
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: just like, I'm not gonna put up a fight. Yeah,

912
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: so he's performing. I think the people sometimes for are

913
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: that way are the people that are most aware that

914
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: they're on camera and of trying not to give a

915
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: reaction because they don't want that reaction. You know, he's

916
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: probably boiling up inside to be what people see of

917
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: him on TV, and he's very aware that people are

918
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: watching him on TV. Yeah, it's when you want to

919
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: be famous. Good for her, He's gone, you know, and

920
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: we move on. As far as the rest of that

921
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: group date, I felt like her moment with Andrew the

922
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: football player from Overseas definitely stood out the most. I

923
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: love him, Yeah, he seems so great. Something about him,

924
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: like he just has that like super friendly face. You

925
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, oh, I like you. I

926
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: feel like if you know, we'll see what happens through

927
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: the relationship. I mean, in my mind it's Greg. But

928
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: like then again, would it be Greg, Like so obvious

929
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: at this point, so obvious at this point, But it's

930
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: almost like they have to be so obvious at this point.

931
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: How do you take away that beautiful connection that they

932
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: had and you know, story that they had shared together. Um,

933
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: but it feels like it has to be Greg. If not,

934
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: Greg's like in the top two, so whether or not

935
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: Andrew makes it to the end or not, Like I

936
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: feel like he's the type of person that like will

937
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: stay in the franchise, Like I hope that he's like

938
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: on Paradise one season, Like he just seems like a

939
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: really nice, friendly face this season. I really love to

940
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: watch Andrew's reactions to like even when the dramas going

941
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: on at in the night with Carl. I know I'm

942
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: skipping ahead and we'll get to that in a bit,

943
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: but just Andrew's just facial expressions, like you can tell

944
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: what's like, how he's feeling what's going on the room

945
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: when they flash past him, and I just love that.

946
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm like you, you're feeling every moment. You're as surprised

947
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: and shocked as we are. Like I I enjoy watching

948
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: his commentary just by seeing how he reacts. He's very animated.

949
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: I guess I would say, yeah, for sure. All right,

950
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: well let's get to the Carl drama, because that's really

951
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: all we have left. Is a standout moment of the episode.

952
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: It's at the cocktail party. Everything seems to be like

953
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: pretty settled, you know, like she got rid of Cody,

954
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: who seemed to be the only guy that was there

955
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons. She's feeling good about her group,

956
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: and then Carl comes up to her and says the

957
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: vaguas I've ever heard. He's like, by the way, he

958
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one that's not here for the wrong reasons.

959
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: There are others. And she's like, but who, And he's like, well,

960
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names. Okay, Well what are

961
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: the examples? What they do? Oh? I don't have examples.

962
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: It's like Katie, she doesn't have anything. He's literally just

963
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: starting drama. I felt so bad that she took it

964
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: to heart so much, because, you know, especially after she

965
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: pulls Aaron aside and asked Aaron, like, is there anyone

966
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: else like I trust to you the one time? Can

967
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: you tell me again? And He's like, no, I don't know.

968
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: I was honestly surprised how she took it, to be

969
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: honest with you too, I find that Katie just seems

970
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: like so strong, right, like emotionally strong and just like

971
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: very little headed and like just like I. I've always

972
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: seen her that way. So when she got so much

973
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: about that, what Batt told me as a viewer and

974
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: as someone who's been in her shoes, is that like

975
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: there's some insecurity there, you know, Like I was saying,

976
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I maybe would have handled it that

977
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: way if I were in her shoes, because of the

978
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: insecurity of worrying about people are there for her, if

979
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: people like her all of that. I think it was

980
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: less about what he said and more about her like

981
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: overall feelings on being the bachelorette, because that's how I was, like,

982
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I felt that way. Um, But I think he Why

983
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: do I think he did? I Mean that's the question,

984
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: why did he do it? Right? And I think that

985
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: he did it because he wants the screen time. I

986
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: think the only thing I can come up with in

987
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: my head of why he would do that, Like why

988
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: would he just he doesn't know her enough to just

989
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: want to hurt her, right, Like do you want to

990
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: hurt somebody like that? You got to know them more,

991
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: like you know, it's vicious and vindictive. But so I

992
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: feel like he just did it because he knew that,

993
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: like that would get his face on camera. Yeah, no,

994
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: You're probably right even when we stop her, I mean,

995
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: he's a motivational speaker, Like can we start? Can we

996
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: stop for a second and just sit on that? Because

997
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: I kept watching this and watching this thing play out,

998
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: and when originally, you know, when he did his package,

999
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, he's a motivational speaker. This will

1000
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what wisdom and encouragement and support

1001
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: he brings into the house, because that's what you would

1002
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: associate with motivational speaking, I would think. So my question,

1003
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: and this is where I want to throw with the listeners,

1004
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: has anybody ever heard Carl speak or does anybody know

1005
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: what he speaks on when it does when he does

1006
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: this for a career. But this felt so um opposite

1007
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: uh And I was trying to think of a bigger

1008
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: word for opposite, But I'm not that smart. Right now,

1009
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Um so opposite. Yeah, that's a good word of what

1010
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: you would expect from a motivational speaker. And right, can

1011
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: we talk about what a motivational speaker does, because don't

1012
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: they usually have really full, healthy careers and experience to

1013
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: be able to speak about things to inspire people and

1014
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: motivate people about how do you just be a motivational speeder?

1015
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Speaker as like a twentiesomething who we don't know what

1016
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: you've accomplished? Well, maybe has, maybe he does, Maybe he

1017
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: hasn't more of a story to his name than we've seen,

1018
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: but I'm ready to see it now like we have.

1019
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: Like now he's so much of a character. He's caused

1020
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: so much drama, Like what what does Carl do? One? Well?

1021
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: I think for me, a motivational speaker is someone that

1022
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: like uses sort of feeling is like the way that

1023
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: they lead, right, Like whether it's like it's like using

1024
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: the feelings that you have to sort of motivate your life,

1025
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: the positive feelings to take you in a certain direction.

1026
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: Do things like whenever I hear a motivational speaker that

1027
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: I feel like it's really good, they like kind of

1028
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: pull up my heart strings or just my my soul

1029
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: like to lead me a certain way, Whereas I almost

1030
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: feel like he is the like you said, Ben, the

1031
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: opposite at this is what the world. I was like, yes, yeah, actually,

1032
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: um so I feel like he is like doing the

1033
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: opposite in the sense that he is um using his

1034
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: words to take a very emotional experience like the batchler

1035
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: at where it's all about finding tugging your soul, your

1036
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: heart strings, and he's making it into a competition and winning.

1037
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: Then he's taking things about people. He should be talking

1038
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: about the guys in the house in such positive ways.

1039
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: Everyone's here trying to find love, go on their path.

1040
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: That's what a motivational speaker will do. And it said

1041
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: he's trying to cut the guys down. He's doing it

1042
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: all opposite. I don't know how that's his job. I

1043
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: can't believe he actually makes money doing that. But I mean,

1044
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: we gotta find out how successful he is gets it,

1045
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: and we gotta find out. Woken at one conference in

1046
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: front of time people and call himself a motivational speaker.

1047
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: You know this is a bachelor title. But at the

1048
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: same time, it just because And I say all this

1049
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: to bring up the point you said he wants screen time. Okay,

1050
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: that's some people's pursue, right, you want screen time, that's

1051
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: not you know, that's not unknown when it comes to

1052
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: cast in the franchise, the usually get sorted out pretty

1053
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: well sometimes. But for him, if you were wanting screen time,

1054
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: you're walking into this experience, you would think in your

1055
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: mind you'd be like, I want screen time to help

1056
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: my career, but like I will not be like, but

1057
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't want that screen time, Like I don't want

1058
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: the screen time of the person causing the drum. I

1059
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: don't want the screen time of hurting Katie like that.

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00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: Just that's where this whole thing got weird to me.

1061
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, he's a motivational speaker, and yet

1062
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: he's just like kind of like poking holes that don't

1063
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: seem healthy. Everyone listening has got to look him up,

1064
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: do some little internet digging and tell us if he's

1065
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: actual actually a motivational speaker, because my gut is he's not.

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Speaker 1: You guys, the twist here is that he's the one

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00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: who is there for the wrong reason, exactly, big twist. Dash.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's it for the episode. Do you have

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00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: any other comments, Sally that you think we've forgot. I

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00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: love this episode. I mean, I'll say it. I think

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00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was an enjoyable episode to watch. I

1073
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: was intrigued like at the time, and for episode two,

1074
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: I thought it was it has it started a lot

1075
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: of good storylines that we missed with Matt season. I

1076
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: think this with Matt season, we're always waiting to kind

1077
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: of be like connected to the cast and we're kind

1078
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: of waiting for those storylines to start, and it never

1079
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: really happened until the very ing kind of Um, but

1080
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: it's episode two and I feel very connected these cast

1081
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: members same. We didn't even talk about Connor b and

1082
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: he's somebody that we really feel connected to. The cat

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00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: the cat, the cat well, Ali Fantowski. Before you go,

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Speaker 1: we do want to bring up one thing. Uh. First off,

1085
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: today marks a really big day I think for you

1086
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of people who are going to be

1087
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: helped by you. Uh. Today he released an article talking

1088
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: about you coming out and talking about a blood disorder

1089
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: that you have and that you've been getting treatment for

1090
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: one that's not uncommon for many Probably do you mind

1091
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: sharing a little bit about that? Oh? My gosh, I

1092
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I didn't know that, like someone wrote

1093
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: about it. Um, yeah, I mean I found it. I

1094
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I'm an emic, which I know

1095
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: is very very common. I've just been super super tired lately,

1096
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: like weirdly tired, um and I couldn't figure out why.

1097
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: So I went to my doctor and they just run

1098
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: and ran a bunch of blood work, and my doctor

1099
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: was like, your Fareyton levels, and Fairyton is essentially the

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00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: like in what's in your body that helps your body

1101
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: store iron. She's like, it's almost zero. She's like, I'm

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00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: surprised you're walking like you must be so tired. So

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00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm gonna like go get like, ah, I'm

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00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: excited about it. I'm gonna go get a I v

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Speaker 1: um full of iron. I do it once on the

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00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: once next week and then once the week after um

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00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: to see how it makes me feel, and I hopefully

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00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: I'll just get all my energy back. That's amazing. So

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00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: can you develop anemia? I guess yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I remember like years ago, like I've always been the

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00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: type of person that's just not very like in tune,

1112
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Like I never had a primary care doctor, like I

1113
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: go to the doctor because like something really hurts, like

1114
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: like keep up with my health over the years. But

1115
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: I do remember years ago a doctor saying to me,

1116
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: like after getting some sort of test done, maybe like

1117
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, saying like, you're on the verge of

1118
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: it being anemic. You should watch out for that. And

1119
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, whatever, and just never thought of

1120
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Speaker 1: it again. Um so now yeah, I mean I just

1121
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: got blow work done becau was just so so so

1122
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: tired and like a way that I'm like, this feels

1123
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: not normal that I'm so tired, Like I was thinking

1124
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: something was really wrong with me. I was so tired,

1125
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: um you know. And then I got this blood test

1126
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: done through the mail that said I had inflammation in

1127
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: my body and I was like, oh my gosh, inflammation

1128
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: like this sea where it went through my brain, you

1129
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Thankfully it's not not that anything

1130
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: like that, but that's kind of like what I was feeling.

1131
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: So to find out I'm anemic is a relief because

1132
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: I know I can like take iron, get the things

1133
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: and like hopefully increase my energy. You've always been somebody

1134
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: that's been open and vulnerable sharing um your stories and

1135
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: your your health history and everything going on in your life.

1136
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: We appreciate it here. Um, I know many people appreciate

1137
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: So even though you didn't know that there was an

1138
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: article written, Uh there was. You can check it out.

1139
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: You can google your name right now. Um. But it

1140
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: is helpful for many uh, and so we thank you

1141
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: for that, Ali Fatowski, Mona, you are the best. Have

1142
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: a great time tonight. Uh, enjoy the party. Uh tell

1143
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: everybody I said hello and then actually said hello because

1144
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: d D does listen to Almost in his pot. Yeah,

1145
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: she's a great supporter, so she'll hear this. Yeah. So Ali,

1146
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. It's

1147
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: now time for one of the most listened to segments

1148
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous podcast. It is Bachelor Hot Topics.

1149
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: Everything that's happened this week imbatination and obviously there has

1150
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: been a lot, a lot of reactions to Chris Harrison's departure.

1151
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that in just a second. Um,

1152
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: but also let's talk for a second. We kind of

1153
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: mentioned it last week, but we have more clarity this

1154
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: week on the Bachelor in Paradise hosts. Before we talk

1155
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: about Chris Harrison officially stepping away. We did have the

1156
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: announcement of four new host for Bachelor and Paradise. Some

1157
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: of Bachelination had some mixed reviews, uh, specifically Tannel tannerd Tolbert,

1158
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: who I know you're close with and if probably been

1159
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: able to kind of process with Ashley before give dive

1160
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: into the headlines of it all. What are your thoughts

1161
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: on these four hosts? Well, I love Lance Bass and

1162
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: I love David Spain. I mean, obviously I consider Lance

1163
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: a friend, and then David Spain, I've I've had lunch

1164
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: with with Amy and I think he's hilarious and I

1165
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: actually think, yeah, he'll be super entertaining. I understand where

1166
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: Tanner's coming from. Let's talk about what Tanner said on

1167
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: his Instagram last week. He said the franchisees hosting decisions

1168
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: have been a train wreck. He doesn't really like the

1169
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: fact that, like American Idol, I would say, did once

1170
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Simon left, they kind of tried to stunt cast right.

1171
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: It's like Jennifer Lopez and Ellen de Genner is like, Wow,

1172
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: huge names are going to try to fill in for Simon.

1173
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: But sometimes people, you know, especially when they've been with

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00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: a franchise since the very beginning and have been such

1175
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: a figurehead for them, they're like irreplaceable. So I think

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00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: I know what Tanner is talking about here. When it's

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: just like calls it a surface, it's because there's so

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00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: many people that they're just like throwing at us to

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00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: entertain us. Possibly, But I think what Tanner is also

1180
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: saying is that he um, he thinks that the show

1181
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: is going to become more about to be well, in

1182
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: the American Idol case, the judges right, so they're gonna

1183
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: mean they're making The Bachelor in Paradise more about the hosts,

1184
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: and they're making it about the contestants, and people watch

1185
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: for the contestants. Let's talk about this for a bit.

1186
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: It comes down to the thing we've talked about so

1187
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: many times on this podcast, and it's the ultimate question

1188
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: of the franchise. Why do people watch? Like, why has

1189
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: this thing been successful because of the love stories? Well

1190
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: that's our assumption and the drama. But could it be

1191
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: that the franchise who studies this data, who has been

1192
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, some people have worked there for the nineteen years,

1193
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: has been going on? Do they know differently? Are they

1194
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: saying no, people are watching this not just for the

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00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: love stories. Probably maybe not even for the love stories

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Speaker 1: at all, but more for the character to development. Um,

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: the comfort I think is a big deal for the show.

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Speaker 1: And you get the comfort from the consistency that was Harrison.

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Speaker 1: I think you do. And so now this does seem

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01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: like a drastic switch. I get Tanner's concern and others

1201
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: concerned where it's like we're losing all familiarity with the

1202
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: franchise when we do these hosts. The the other question

1203
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: I have in this, and I don't I'm not saying

1204
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: any of these hosts are bad. I really don't know

1205
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: them as hosts. Like you know, Lance Bass, I know

1206
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: him from the show. He's great, Little John I've I've

1207
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: seen him on the show, but he was Yeah, David Spade,

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01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: you're telling me he's gonna be great? Uh, Titus like

1209
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: I I mean, I think he's funny. I've always enjoyed him. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But why, I mean we have to ask the question here,

1211
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: if they're gonna diversify, if they're gonna go as far

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Speaker 1: as you know, replacing with not just one host before,

1213
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: why is there a woman involved here? Isn't that bizarre? Well,

1214
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean Sarah Highland. But but she's not on this

1215
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: list right now, we don't really know Wells and Sarah's

1216
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: roles or if they're gonna be there one week or

1217
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: if they're there consistently. Let's say right now, just for

1218
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: the sake of this conversation, we don't really and we

1219
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: don't know what Sarah's role is gonna be here if

1220
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna add for new hosts. How is there not

1221
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Speaker 1: a woman involved? I mean, we're on this conversation right

1222
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: now and they have a moment where they can really

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01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: change things up. There's that one that's that's weird to me,

1224
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: especially for Paradise. I get it. For Bachelorette, right you

1225
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: have Caitlin and Tastia there, uh, their guides, their mentors.

1226
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: They can sit beside the bachelorette and relate on a

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01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 1: lot of levels, maybe even go as far as saying

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: on some levels that Chris Harrison couldn't write when it

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01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: comes to um being a woman and and and the

1230
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Speaker 1: power that brings and the leadership you need for that.

1231
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: But here for Paradise, I mean, it's a very it's

1232
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: very clear that like a woman should be involved. I think,

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01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it just feels like it fits and there's

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: not I totally agree. Let's read this Tanner quote. He says,

1235
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: I think the franchise needs to figure their out and

1236
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: figure it out quick, because I think this show is

1237
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: on a slippery slope right now. And as a fan

1238
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: of the show first and foremost, I want to see

1239
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: it keep going. But with all the host drama, it's

1240
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: just starting to get ridiculous. The host doesn't need to

1241
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: be the star of the show. I don't need to

1242
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: see commentary on every little thing, and not every little

1243
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: thing needs to be a joke. Night agree. Well, so again,

1244
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: and as a fan of the show myself, as a

1245
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: fan of a lot of people that work on the show,

1246
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: as somebody personally who wants to see this show continue,

1247
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: I am now on the edge of my seat to

1248
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: see what paradise looks like. And we're gonna get into

1249
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: a bit on a conversation about the Bachelorette ratings dropping

1250
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: drastically this week, and that totally relates, and so we're

1251
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that, uh in just a little bit.

1252
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: It does relate. Uh, And there's a lot of things

1253
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: that we can assume are part of it, but all

1254
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: all in here, if we're all honest with ourselves. Every

1255
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: fan of the show right now, I would agree with Tanner.

1256
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: They might not agree that they don't like the hosting choices,

1257
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: but the show right now needs a figure stuff out.

1258
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: It is on a slippery slope. It's being shown in

1259
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: the data. And my question for people who are listening

1260
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: in for you Actuley, is does these four hosts that

1261
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: they just announced for Paradise does it help or her

1262
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: the show? You're asking me, I, it's not anything personal

1263
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: towards the host, you know, I can't wait to see

1264
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: Lance host. I think we needed a more more consistency,

1265
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: especially right after Harrison leaves, to have four hosts, I

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Speaker 1: think just gonna just gonna like kind of like confuse

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Speaker 1: people about the theme of the show. What's the point here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think one of the things for me

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Speaker 1: actually in all these years is I watch this show, um,

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Speaker 1: because I'm familiar with it, and I and I you know,

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Speaker 1: and I enjoy seeing the process. I like watching Paradise

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Speaker 1: because I'm familiar with it. Uh. It's it's obviously a

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Speaker 1: little more dramatic, it's a little bit more unpredictable. There's

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: weird stuff that happens new people are showing up every week,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling, even as somebody has been a part of

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Speaker 1: the show, I'm feeling less and less like familiar with it.

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Speaker 1: And that goes one of two ways. Either I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: that and that's a good thing because it's moving beyond

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01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: me and it's entering into a whole new season and

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Speaker 1: it's a whole new franchise and it's gonna take on

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Speaker 1: a whole new look and it's gonna be very successful

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Speaker 1: in this way, or it's not gonna work. Now, to

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: close this thought, the Bachelor has always prized themselves on

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: being that kind of stand up reality show, right. It's

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01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: been around for a long time. I remember back in

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: the day they kind of said, hey, we have the

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01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: Secret Sauce like our bread and Butter. Is the format

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Speaker 1: and it works and it tells a story, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's what's made it stand out among so many other

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Speaker 1: reality shows that have tried to come out and be successful.

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Speaker 1: I feel like here, I'm feeling like it's slipping back

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Speaker 1: into what other shows are doing and not necessarily still

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: trying to be this franchise that we've known in love

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Speaker 1: for so long. Well, isn't like it goes back to

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Speaker 1: not to bring up my former other favorite show, but

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01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: American Idol. It's like sometimes like a show peaks and

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01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: then one of its stars is no longer there, like

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Speaker 1: one of the foundation pieces of the foundation is no

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Speaker 1: longer there, and they keep they try to reinvent it,

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Speaker 1: they try to make it sparkle with like big names

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Speaker 1: and twists and all that, and it just can't recover

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01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: from that loss. So yeah, I guess the storyline here

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01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: for this franchise. And again we're gonna get into the

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: ratings drops in a bit. We're gonna get into Chris

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's resignation and talk more detailed about that. But

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Speaker 1: the big question now that I think people are going

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: to be watching is does this work and do people

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01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: tune in? And does this seem to bring in the viewership.

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: The show might be funnier, but is that what we want?

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01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Or do we want love stories. Another thing that I

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Speaker 1: think is really interesting about Paradise is that there are

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01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: so many big cast stars that we expected to see

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Speaker 1: there who are still very active on social media and

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Speaker 1: doing interviews, so it looks like they didn't show up

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Speaker 1: a lot. Like we're talking like I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: You and I thought that Maddie would go. But like Maddie,

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: Hannah and Victoria Fuller, Kelly Flann again, Mike Johnson, they're

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Speaker 1: all around, they're on social media. It feels weird, Ashley,

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01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: it feels weird. Well, hey, uh, entering in a new season,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about a lot more here on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Let's take a break. When we come back,

1322
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: when you talk ratings drops, what does that mean for

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Speaker 1: the franchise, is their recovery and process. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: your opinions on that. And then also we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's resignation, everything we know about that next step

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Speaker 1: and what it looks like for The Bachelor moving forward.

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Speaker 1: But we'll be back with the almost famous podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: we promised it right before the break, and now it's

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Speaker 1: time to talk about it. Chris Harrison has officially resigned

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: from The Bachelor franchise. He did get a pay out

1331
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: for his time on the show. There's rumors going around

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01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 1: from everywhere from fifty million to five million to ten million,

1333
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: like nobody really knows, but it's it's it's some millions, uh, Ashley. Obviously,

1334
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: some people believe that he was already ready to leave

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01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: the show. Um and that or and some people feel

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: like this came out of nowhere and it was as

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: a result of just, you know, kind of what happened

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Speaker 1: over the last year. Do you have any insight into

1339
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: like this exit now, like what was the timing? I

1340
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: have a feeling, but I want to hear your thoughts first.

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it has everything to do with

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: what happened over the winter with the interview, and I

1343
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: don't think that's what the majority of fans wanted. I

1344
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people wanted to see him

1345
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: leave Adventure to even say that, like based on what

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: I see on social media and what I see from

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01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: people who come up to me and just say hi,

1348
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, because their Bachelor fans, But people just did

1349
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: not want to see him leave. I think there was

1350
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: lots of ways that they could have dealt with you know,

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01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: what happened. You know, he did a lot of learning,

1352
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: a lot of growing. I think there was a way

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: that they could have shown that on the show. I

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: am sad that this is how it's gone down. Um

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: who would have I don't know who would have thought? Right?

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: My thoughts are are this And obviously, um, as a

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01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 1: white male that you know the way that this doesn't

1358
01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: really carry too much. But I feel like we just

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: don't have not a conclusion. But I feel like there

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: was an interview that went poorly, uh to say the least,

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Speaker 1: and I think most people would say this wasn't a

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01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: good interview. There was something said that we needed clarity on.

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: But now we don't get any clarity on, like now

1364
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: we're now there's no uh, there's there's no kind like

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: Chris is just gone. And it just feels like, hey,

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: this was a moment, especially knowing Chris and knowing how

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Speaker 1: hard he was working, knowing the people he surrounded himself with,

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: knowing the questions he was asking, knowing what his heart

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: and desire were, it was to learn and to figure

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01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: out like how how these words that he said hurt

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Speaker 1: and how he could have done better. I just feel

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01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: like now we don't get that on the show. And

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: I think all all the people, all of viewers and

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Speaker 1: Chris himself kind of in a sense like I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe just like we want it. Maybe it feels like

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01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: he was a part of our living rooms and our

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01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: television for so long that it feels like, uh, if

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: that is the path he was on, like why aren't

1379
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: we getting it? And I and don't know why it

1380
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: just abruptly ended without even an interview on after the

1381
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: final rose or even a moment on the franchise. It

1382
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: just feels like they just said, oh, this was bad,

1383
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: this wasn't good. Let's totally separate from it's like does

1384
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: that fix the thing? Like is that a good move

1385
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: for the show? I don't know. That's not a good

1386
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: growth move. It doesn't. It just shows that, like when

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01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: you it just shows that there's not a lot of

1388
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: room to learn sometimes and I think, um, you know, Chris,

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01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: like Chris is a friend, and we've talked about many times,

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01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I know this situation, uh is was

1391
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: bad for multiple different angles. But it also feels like, hey,

1392
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: Chris has been around and supported all of us. You know,

1393
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: he has supported um every person has gone on this

1394
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: franchise as best he could and to the capacity that

1395
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: he could in incredible ways. And and I just don't feel,

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, now it's just done, and it feels odd, um,

1397
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: but it's happened, and and that's the truth of it all.

1398
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: And so now we talk about like, what is this

1399
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: new season for The Bachelor? Is it a good season?

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: How is the Bachelor going to change? Uh? And how

1401
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: are they going to evolve to not only learn from

1402
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: what happened with Chris but also keep viewers interested without Chris.

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: That's a big deal now, Okay, so let's go onto

1404
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: that headline. The ratings were down significantly for Katie's premiere episode. Okay,

1405
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: so three point seven million in total viewed this um.

1406
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: In comparison, Matt season had five point two million. But

1407
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: The Bachelor is always down from the Bachelor and Claire's season,

1408
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: Oh damn. Claire season back in October started with five

1409
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: million total watchers. So ratings are down. And so this

1410
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: is a conversation that that we want to have with

1411
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: the listeners and so please email us. But as the

1412
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise enters into this new era and people, we

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: have a quote here, I'll just pull this one up

1414
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: from Tyler Cameron saying he's he's excited for this new

1415
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: season kind of the fresh faces that will enter in

1416
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: UM to the franchise as hosts. Uh, and what that

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01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: can mean for the franchise. Well, are we getting eerily

1418
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,839
Speaker 1: close to not even having the show any longer because

1419
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: from TV Guide it's on the chopping block at ABC

1420
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: right now. Like, so they're they're making these big changes. Yeah,

1421
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: so they're making these big changes and people are saying, Oh,

1422
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: this is great for the show, this is good for

1423
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: the franchise, but like what happens when the franchise doesn't exist?

1424
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: I mean, are people good with that? Is that kind

1425
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: of where people wanted to go? Or is that why

1426
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: people aren't watching? They're saying this thing is done, like

1427
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: not even just because not without Chris the shows are

1428
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: in its course. Well, Ben, how much do you think

1429
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: of the ratings job had to do with People are

1430
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: saying like, I don't I don't want to watch this

1431
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: show because Chris isn't part of it, and because I

1432
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: think that they didn't it wasn't dealt with properly. I

1433
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: don't know if that would be uh the reason I

1434
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: think fans of the show are fans of the show.

1435
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just look. I know that people

1436
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: say like I'm not gonna watch, I'm not gonna watch them.

1437
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: They always watch. But if you read the comments under

1438
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: these articles online, like so many people are saying I'm

1439
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: not watching because of Chris, and then you see the

1440
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: ratings DOPP and you're like, oh, maybe there is a correlation. Well,

1441
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: and I also wonder, kind of like we're talking about earlier,

1442
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: like why do people watch the show? Is it the

1443
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: love stories? Because if that's the case, it doesn't really

1444
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: matter if Chris is they' or not. Is it the drama?

1445
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: Is it the drama of it all? Well, that doesn't

1446
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: really matter if Chris is They're not. Is it the comfort? Comfort?

1447
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Is it the comfort? And being uncomfortable isn't always bad,

1448
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: Like maybe you know, changing and evolving and growing is

1449
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: not bad. But we're people watching this because they had

1450
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: a part of their lives for last twenty years and

1451
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: now they're saying it's time to give it up. Like

1452
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: it's just like, I'm done watching it because I've I've

1453
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: I've seen enough, I've been a part of it enough.

1454
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: I think the Chris thing has something to do with

1455
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: I think he has his like following um, but I

1456
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't think you can attribute almost half of

1457
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: the viewership to Chris being gone. I think that would

1458
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: I think that would be a big stretch, especially because

1459
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: over the last few years we've seen less and less

1460
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: of Chris on the show anyways. Yeah, well, I guess

1461
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: we'll continue to see like how this season and Paradise

1462
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: and in Michelle, and then we'll be able to make

1463
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: like some more some more deductions. It's just it's it's

1464
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: an interesting topic and um it also is a topic

1465
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: around like how do we grow from mistakes? And then

1466
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: like how do we allow others to grow? And was

1467
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: this to write or wrong decision? So we want to

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: hear from you. Um, but I mean, I'm I'll go

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: as far as to say, like and I said on

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01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: my Instagram, Chris has been really good to me. Now

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's everybody's experience. I can't speak

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: for everybody, but I'm gonna miss watching him on the show.

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: Mostly not only because, like I you know, he felt

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Speaker 1: like my coach. It's like, you know, when you're football coach,

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Speaker 1: basketball coach in high school retires ten years after you're

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Speaker 1: out of high school, you don't feel connected to the

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Speaker 1: high school as much anymore. Um, it's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: weird for him, like not to start each season with

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Speaker 1: like his hands classed turning on the wet driveway, like

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Speaker 1: we've seen the last of that that's so bizarre to me,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. Well, um, that's a big announcement. We have

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Speaker 1: some some really great announcements to talk about on the headlines.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll through here. Um, some really great things

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Speaker 1: to celebrate. But to close that topic, we are I

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Speaker 1: guess actually I both talked off the line. We're very

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Speaker 1: intrigued to see what the Bachelor does when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the host and when it comes to the leadership

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Speaker 1: of the show and the consistency of the show moving forward. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but here's some really cool things that have happened from

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Speaker 1: the show that we need to celebrate. Lauren Burnham gives

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Speaker 1: birth welcomes her and Ari Liondyke Junior's twins, son and daughter.

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Speaker 1: This according to US yeay happy birthday baby twins. In Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ari said that mama and babies are doing great. Everything

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Speaker 1: went smoothly and they're spending time cherishing these moments. They keep,

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Speaker 1: they think them, they think all of you guys for

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Speaker 1: your support. Um, so yeah, it's so great. It's so great. Man.

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Speaker 1: It feels like Jess yesterday she and not she was pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Now they have three kids. It's absolutely wild and it's

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Speaker 1: I've said this before, but like my grandma and my

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Speaker 1: Like they just are like really into that family and

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Speaker 1: watching them grow and function. It's it's pretty cool. Well,

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Speaker 1: another big announcement that I, you know, personally really want

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Speaker 1: to say. Uh here for myself and for Ashley and

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Speaker 1: for the podcast, but mostly for myself. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: for um. Lauren Bushnell, who I obviously know well, gives

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Speaker 1: birth welcome's first child with husband Chris Lane. This according

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Speaker 1: to US Weekly, and we're so pumped for them. She's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great mom, and uh, I'm just really

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Speaker 1: excited to make that announcement. Yeah. Remember last week I

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Speaker 1: ended the podcast by saying, I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some first report on next week. While we were right,

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Speaker 1: all of the pregnant Bachelor ladies gave birth. UM's Lauren,

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Speaker 1: Lauren and Chris's baby boy is named Dutton Walker Lane.

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Speaker 1: He's nine pounds and I know, and Lauren wrote, your

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Speaker 1: dad and I can't get enough of all nine pounds.

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Speaker 1: A do. Now back to baby cuddles and praising Jesus

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Speaker 1: over and over again for this little miracle. So sweet. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Laurens had their baby this week. You're right, Ashuley,

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Speaker 1: you predicted it. Well. Final headline of the day, Bachelor

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Speaker 1: mom Becca Martinez celebrates college graduation. Her quote is I

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Speaker 1: freaking did it this according to people? Ashley, how do

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Speaker 1: we celebrate? Oh, we're so happy for Becca. It took

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Speaker 1: her eight years to graduate college, but for good reason,

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Speaker 1: she did the bachelor. In between that she had two kids.

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Speaker 1: She started, she said, she started at UC Irvine in

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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, fresh out of high school. She had

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Speaker 1: plans to be an elementary teacher or an art teacher.

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Speaker 1: She dropped down. She that's fifteen. But here we are finally,

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Speaker 1: uh she she said, she's gained two babies along the way,

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Speaker 1: and she's so darn proud. So cool. Well, that's it

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Speaker 1: for the Almost Famous podcast today. It's been a pleasure

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Speaker 1: talking with you all. Thank you Ali for t Tawski

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Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast. Thank you all for listening.

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Speaker 1: Please write in your thoughts and opinions on all other

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Speaker 1: things we talked about today. You can email us at

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Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley at I heart radio dot com, and guys,

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Speaker 1: we do want to hear your opinions about Chris Harrison's departure.

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Speaker 1: We haven't read mails in a while, and I think

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Speaker 1: it would be a great time to do that next week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'd be nice. Well, with all that being said, i've

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Speaker 1: been been, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys later. Follow the

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Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart

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