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Speaker 1: Christian day Talk. He is a White House supporter for

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Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner. In fact, we're talking to him from

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Speaker 1: Daily Caller. Christian, welcome and thank you for joining me

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Speaker 1: in Newtsworld.

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Speaker 2: No problem, Speaker Gingridge, happy to join you today.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious because you've been right at the heart

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Speaker 1: several years. How has the White House press pool changed

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Speaker 3: Well, been an adventurous first seven weeks or so in

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Speaker 3: been major changes in the briefing room. First and foremost,

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Speaker 3: of Mexico, the name it's had for hundreds of years

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Speaker 3: before President Trump signed that executive order. But a few

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Speaker 3: weeks after that, Caroline Levitt, the new Press Secretary, announced

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Speaker 3: there is a little bit of tension right now, not

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Speaker 1: I think I would help our listeners, Christian if you

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Speaker 3: Of course, So there are three main pools that cover

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, were there problems with the White House

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Speaker 1: You had mentioned in passing the difference, but what's it

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Speaker 1: Tend to agree. I think that they've got to get

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Speaker 3: So they say, oh, if you charge us ten percent

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Speaker 2: Again, it's early days.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get additional implementation next month, and then

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Speaker 3: via executive order. I think the biggest outstanding issue is

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Speaker 3: going to be up to Congress to get his tax

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Speaker 3: cuts vehicle through the House in the Senate, and then

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Speaker 3: after that, who knows what's going to come. So it

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Speaker 3: feels like it's been a fire hose which the media

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Speaker 3: months now, and again I say we shouldn't have been

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Speaker 3: surprised because This isn't our first rodeo with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: but I think even some folks in the White House

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's so interesting to see if

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Speaker 1: you look at the cabin that he's appointed. These are

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Speaker 1: all really strong personalities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt across the board.

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Speaker 3: I think personally, my favorite pick so far has got

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Speaker 3: to be Brooke Rawlins at USDA because we don't talk

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Speaker 3: but she is someone who is truly a policy expert.

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Speaker 2: I mean she was there.

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Speaker 3: She was the director of the Domestic Policy Council during

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Speaker 3: Trump's first term in office, and she's really sort of

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Speaker 3: hit the ground running. She was in the mid tier

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Speaker 3: in terms of confirmations this second time around. She wasn't

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Speaker 3: during the first two weeks or anything like that like

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Speaker 3: the National Security team was. But when you look at

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Speaker 3: what's happening right now in terms of inflated egg prices

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Speaker 3: following the bird flu epidemic, which the country has been

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Speaker 3: grappling with. She had a concrete plan. They came out

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Speaker 3: and they said, we're going to subsidize the purchase of

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Speaker 3: right now. And it's like, oh, okay again, even if

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Speaker 3: you don't agree with this president on the issues and

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Speaker 3: you are raising the topic of elevated egg prices, that's

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Speaker 3: a real answer there. And it didn't take weeks and

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Speaker 3: months to get it. It happened in pretty rapid succession.

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Speaker 3: And I could give you examples from a number of

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Speaker 3: other agencies, but it does seem like the team that

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Speaker 3: is in place right now is unified around the mission

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Speaker 3: that this White House is trying to achieve, and they're

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Speaker 3: going to be working double time, triple time over time

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Speaker 3: to make sure that they deliver on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm very close to Brooke and I can't imagine anybody

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Speaker 1: better At agriculture. She was the statewide for each president

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Speaker 1: in Texas in high school. She actually majored in agricultural

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Speaker 1: economics at Texas A and M. Her family has a ranch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she founded the Texas Public Policy Foundation. So

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Speaker 1: there's a pretty animate knowledge about issues in general, and

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think she's very striking as

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Speaker 1: somebody who can get things done. But I look at

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Speaker 1: that whole cabinet and virtually everybody there is very strumming.

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Speaker 1: You compare them to Biden's cabinet, and there's just no

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Speaker 1: comparison in terms of what they've achieved in the real world.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot you can say about what this cabinet

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Speaker 3: has done in the private sphere versus President Biden's cabinet,

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Speaker 3: which did seem to be primarily career bureaucrats, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's just sort of the nature of the beasts

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Speaker 3: these days. There is significant appetite again on both sides

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Speaker 3: of the aisle, for people who come from outside of

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Speaker 3: government coming in and taking control of a system which everyone,

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Speaker 3: regardless of your political ideology, feels pretty confident that things

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Speaker 3: have gotten out of hand. So it's a very stark contrast.

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Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, who knows how long each of these

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Speaker 3: secretaries day on. Of course, turnover is a reality for

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Speaker 3: any presidential administration.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: Also, you know, we heard a lot from Vice President

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris about how she pledged to reach across the

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Speaker 3: aisle and put a Republican in her cabinet, which, for

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Speaker 3: the record, used to not be an outland just thing

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Speaker 3: to say. I mean, we used to have bipartisanship within

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Speaker 3: presidential administrations not too long ago. But now Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: has a former Democrat running HHS and Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior.

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Speaker 3: So things certainly seem to come full circle. And I'm

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Speaker 3: interested to see what this team can achieve and how

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Speaker 3: long they will stick together.

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Speaker 1: His director of National Intelligence was a Democratic candidate for president.

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Speaker 2: I almost forgot about Saulcy Gabbard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's clear to me that you really

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Speaker 1: are paying close attention. Of course, the White House now

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Speaker 1: for a reporter to be covering. It's a lifetime education

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Speaker 1: for you, and I really want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining me. Our listeners can read your reporting at Warshton

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Speaker 1: Examiner dot com, and I think after listening to this

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Speaker 1: That's very, very impressive.

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Speaker 3: join you today.

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