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Speaker 1: going to New York and all that stuff was the

425
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: culture shop for you. At first. I used to take

426
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: summer vacations back to the South, so I was used

427
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: to tryangling. My mom made it a point, like I said,

428
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: we were low income, poverty living in Compton, you know,

429
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: but I still have relatives Florida, Texas, Georgia, ship like that.

430
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: So Mom's made it up point to put us on

431
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: a plane or a bus and ship us out, so

432
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: as far as down south and going and knowing how

433
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: to whatever move as a kid, but as far as

434
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: the rap ship going to places that I would never thought.

435
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: Of course, the first time I went to New York

436
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: at eighteen years old, you know, during the rap ship,

437
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: it was a culture shock to me because I had

438
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: never been nowhere other than Gulfport, Mississippi, you feel me,

439
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: and that was it, or Tampa Bay, Florida, where my

440
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: pops was from. Other than that, I've never been nowhere,

441
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: you hear me. I'm eighteen nineteen in the hood. I mean,

442
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: we didn't even shoot. I didn't go to l A,

443
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: you feel me, unless it was to the Untes house

444
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: as a kid or something. By the time I got

445
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: older and was banging, I didn't travel out of I

446
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: didn't like. I didn't go nowhere. You know, we didn't

447
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: do Hollywood, We didn't do none of that type of

448
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: ship because the way I felt like, i'm I'm we

449
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: from Campton, so you stay in your territory. So when

450
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: I started wrapping and was able to go to places

451
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: like Dallas, Texas or New York or Atlanta or Chicago.

452
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: It definitely was a culture shop because I was able

453
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: to see the positive side out of doing something other

454
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: than banging. You did me. It was taking me different places.

455
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: So it would change my attitude because you gotta meet

456
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: all kind of people, different elements of motherfucking people. You

457
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: give me, I'm going to different cities, and I gotta

458
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: walk up in these record labels in different cities, and

459
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: you know, everybody has different personalities over here. It might

460
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: be full of white people over here. It might be

461
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: blacks and Asians over and everybody not like us where

462
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: we come from. Everybody don't get it. So you have

463
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: to learn how to adapt to that type of ship

464
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: when you meet in different people. And and like we say,

465
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: regular civilian motherfucker's who ain't never had a part it is.

466
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: And they were to ask you questions and and why

467
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: his niggas doing this? And colors and why is niggas

468
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: killing and banging? And why did you have to sell

469
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: drugs and do this ship? They really don't get that ship.

470
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: They don't they've done at all. And one of the things,

471
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: like James said, is like we could talk about this

472
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: that we blew in the face because unfortunately George Floyd

473
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: wasn't the first. He's not gonna be the last brother

474
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be. We're gonna be gonna have probably

475
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: had this conversation twenty five more times and why But

476
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to figure out some loose solutions. And

477
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: I think really the whole key to this man is

478
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: getting to these cats while they're young, like you out

479
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: there coaching football. Eight And I missed coaching football for

480
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: that fact, because you were able to impact guys and

481
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 1: when they were six seven years old, guys that come

482
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: from terrible backgrounds. Had a whole bunch of game banging

483
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: kids on my team. You know. The keys wasn't necessarily

484
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: game bankers, but the parents was. You could tell, Okay,

485
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: the day from Carver Park, the other there from Tree Top,

486
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, but they come out on that football field,

487
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: everybody kind of clicked up. And that's equalizers. So what

488
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I want to do? Man? And I was talking to

489
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: a um, you know, big dinners up there. You know,

490
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean this sons, our sons projected to go pretty

491
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: high next year the draft. So what I really want

492
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: to do? Eight, James, I'm beat y'all involved in this.

493
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: I want to really start up program where we start

494
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: taking these kids to see different places. That's one thing

495
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I do like about the Snoop League is it takes

496
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: kids about their neighborhood and they go see different places,

497
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: even if it's just up this road to go to Oakland,

498
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, to go to friends, no play different you know,

499
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: see different stuff. But that that makes it different sometimes

500
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: because the first time I went to Europe it was

501
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: life changing for me because I came back home and

502
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: I said, Man, it's a whole another world out there.

503
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: It's a whole another world out there, big world, and

504
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: we need to start showing these kids. So maybe and

505
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: my whole thing is this are the twenty kids. If

506
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: we can get one or two, I'm cool with that,

507
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: if we could say it's one or two of them,

508
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: because you ain't gonna be to say to everybody. But

509
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: I really want to start getting back to the root

510
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: of everything. And man, that's these babies and some of

511
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: these cats. Man, once they turned seventeen and eight two,

512
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: it ain't necessarily too late for them. But they mind

513
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: already made up. Man. Yeah, they started early, you know,

514
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: So whatever I think, whatever you can do to show

515
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: involvement with the with the with the youngs and with

516
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: the youth, and showing involvement and showing that there is,

517
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, life outside the hood, because like I said,

518
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: a lot of us be products of our environment and

519
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: we and we'd be stuck and not too criticized because

520
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: I came from that ship. You feel me. But it's

521
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, inner city kids who you know, uh,

522
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: single family, mom's low income. You know, you know that

523
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: work homei'es come home from prison, the drug deal or

524
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: whatever they caught gang banging. It's kind of hard to

525
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: get your life straight when you're gonna be a twenty

526
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: five years and you come home and then you know,

527
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: the babies is left with the single moms and then

528
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: they have to go through that insition of hate because

529
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: pops ain't around. So you know, if you could start there,

530
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: even though you know it ain't pops and I'm not Dad,

531
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: but the male figure, I feel showing importance to some

532
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: of the young kids is what really could change some

533
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: of the aspects. Uh, you know, letting the motherfucker see, hey,

534
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: your pops might not be here at the game, but

535
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: we showed up. You get me, or they might not

536
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: can't get you a pair of shoes, but we kicked

537
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: up and we got you some shoes. Or you uh,

538
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: your mom or your dad might not be able to

539
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: get you to Oakland and ship, but we're gonna get

540
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: you there. And I think when you do ship like that,

541
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: it shows the motherfucker oh well, because so now you

542
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: can't blame the aspect you get me. You can't be

543
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: like all with ship. My mom couldn't do this and

544
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I was left being When you show that importance and ship,

545
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: then I think that makes it a great change because

546
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: there was a lot of kids I saw in six

547
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: seven you know, gets be bad and the motherfucker at

548
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: four or five, six years or man. And I think

549
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: just because I participated, and you know, oh dad, ain't

550
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: your dad. I ain't never seen your pops at the game.

551
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: But it's still fucking we got you. Oh y'all going

552
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: to Disneyland and Asbury Farm. Oh fucking you're going to

553
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: here's your ticket, here's your ticket. I think when we

554
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: do that, just like I do the ship, I'll make

555
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: sure every kid on my team when they show up,

556
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: what she cleats, I'm getting everybody cleats I'm getting everybody

557
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: whatever because I don't kiss to feel left out. You

558
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: feel me. That really funks with a lot of kids

559
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: when they feel left out of ship. So I think

560
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: just showing that and being able to participate and being

561
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: able to do certain little ship like that makes a

562
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: whole lot of difference. And it takes a motherfucking kid

563
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: from wanting to throw up the set to motherfucking want

564
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: to throw in the basketball. Who could throw a football

565
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: or or pick up a book and do some other

566
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: ship like that when you as niggas like us where

567
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: we came from, James, when we showed interest eight eight,

568
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: it's something else you could be doing. Let me let

569
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: me show you, let me peep this out. Yeah, And

570
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: I and I really want to bring that back though,

571
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: because I read at one time changed that and they

572
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: this for both of y'all. I heard that Compton at

573
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: one time was producing more Major League Baseball players than

574
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: anywhere else and they made baseball so expensive for the

575
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: little kids. But they said that at one time Compton

576
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: was the Meca for baseball. My neighborhood had all kind

577
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: of superstars, baseball, football, the whole nine in it. Uh.

578
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: One of my home boys went to college. Uh, full

579
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: scholarship for baseball, had a cold as arm, came home

580
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: spring break, never went back. It's just the decisions that

581
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: we're making, the things that we do. Man, you know

582
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: we paeople are now. But when back then, when motherfucker's

583
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back to college, they preferred the hood,

584
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: and and at the end of the day, we paid

585
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: for it. So we make poor decisions. But a seventeen

586
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: year old cat can be reached out, can be reached

587
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: nor Uh, you just got show him something different. Still

588
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: early in the game for him, he still went behind

589
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: the ears far as just being a game banging. Uh.

590
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: And I don't give a high solid he might think

591
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: he is sixteen, seventeen years old. He can be reached.

592
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: You feel me, Well, we have to come with alternatives

593
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: because my thing is this, I really want us to start.

594
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: Like you're putting your money where your mouthel is. You

595
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: don't have no mon keys out there. You still messing

596
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: with the kids. And I've been driving by those parts lately,

597
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: Like I missed that. Like we had a little kid

598
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: of the team named Ramble. Rambo was one of my

599
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: hardest players. When I tell you he was every bit

600
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: of two foot nothing, but one of my hardest players.

601
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: I put him on the edge, on the edge when

602
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: we got hard games. Say what nobody get around the

603
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: corner from the smallest dude out there. But you know

604
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: why he got his name Ramble. He used to carry

605
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: a pistol with him every practice in twenty two and

606
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: this dude what the seven eight years old pistols every day.

607
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: So we're talking to him one day and we say, man,

608
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: why did you have to We don't took three games

609
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: when you are already he said, coach home. When I

610
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: leave here, I ain't no telling what can happen. I

611
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: already had a brother, I've already lost a brother. I

612
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: lost the cousin. So this dude in his mind, he's

613
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: thinking of eight years old. I have to have protection

614
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: because I've seen my brother lose his life already, and

615
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 1: I've seen my cousin lose his life. So I don't

616
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: want to go out like that, you know. So it's

617
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: like I think about them kids all the time because

618
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: I had them from when they was babies on up.

619
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: But then after they leave me, what happens to him?

620
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, like, like, where did they

621
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: go and I, you know, I hear these stories about him,

622
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: some of them in prison, some of them dead, some

623
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: moving and went to college. You know, I try to

624
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: keep up with as many of them as I can't. Man,

625
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: But I think the only people that can help us

626
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: is us. So I want to start putting my time

627
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: and my our money, our efforts into doing that right there.

628
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: And again, I know we can't say is everybody, man,

629
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: but something gotta give. Then all it is is that

630
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: just trying to put forth the effort. I mean, it

631
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: starts from somewhere. And like you said, talk is cheap.

632
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: So it just has to be a scenario where you

633
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: connect with something, you connect with it, and you you

634
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: make it happen. Like I said, my son has been

635
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's been out of a youth football for

636
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: three years now, but I still coach and I started.

637
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: I went back to coach eleven twelve year old kids because,

638
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: like I said, it's not even the factor to me.

639
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: It's just about connecting with kids and let my fucking

640
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: kids see, Like ship, it's cool that you come out.

641
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't come out on the fact that they know

642
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm who I am or whatever. I just come out

643
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: as a regular dude. And then naturally the parents start

644
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: noticing and stuff like that, and it just excites the

645
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: kids because they see that I could be anywhere, you know,

646
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: doing anything, but you know, to me, I don't give

647
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: a funk. I'd rather be out at the park with kids,

648
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: trying to teach kids about teamwork, trying to teach kids

649
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: about you can get along, because, believe you me, I

650
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: got living your old kids who do not like each other,

651
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: you feel me, And they'd be ready to get him

652
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: up and talk about I'm fuck him up and I don't.

653
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't like that kid, and I'm gonna suck him

654
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: up after practice, and I have to talk to kids

655
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: and be like dude and pull kids together and be like,

656
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: while you're around me for the next four months, nigga,

657
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: we homies right here. He got your back, You got

658
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: it back. Take two gloves, and you know what I'll

659
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: make you know what I'll make you know what I'll

660
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: make them do, James, I'm make them hold hands and

661
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: skip around the whole part together while they hold hands.

662
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: That's what I make them do. Y'all want to be

663
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: on my team, and y'all want to be acting crazy?

664
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: Oh then I'm gonna embarrass you, because that's what you're

665
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: gonna really be doing, embarrassing yourself, trying to be out

666
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: here fighting that eleven years old man. You know what

667
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: my son was doing that eleven playing football and living

668
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: in an eleven year old life, cartoons and fucking cereal

669
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: and ship like that. He didn't have no beefs with

670
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: no little kids. Everybody liked them everything. And that's what

671
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Addie Levin at seven eight, you don't

672
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: carry a pistol. You should be being a kid. You

673
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: get me, and and that's unfortunate. So that's why I say,

674
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: it's just we just have to, like you said, you

675
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: just have to put up on shut up. And and

676
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: that's that's why I still coach football, because I'm trying

677
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: to put up and not shut up just because and

678
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: show motherfucker's it wasn't just about coaching my son or

679
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: getting to that level. And now I can go cool.

680
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: I might funk that I'm gonna go coach again. Why not,

681
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: because that's because I've stayed around for like a year

682
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: or two after my son was gone. But then the

683
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: time this became too much because I wanted to just

684
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: stay and be a coach, but didn't nobody want to

685
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: step up and do the president's stuff. So that's what

686
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: it was. Kind of like, you know what, it's getting

687
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: too difficulties, you know, the time to go into that.

688
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: It's like when you running the organization, it's a lot,

689
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: it's time consuming. So I get it. That's why I've

690
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: never tried to be a president or nothing. That just

691
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: let me coach. I take my two hours with the kids,

692
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, teach them some some some some sportsmanship, teach

693
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: them how to get along with other dudes, and teach

694
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: them how you you know, everything's about not retaliation in

695
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: that aspect, and that's it. And then maybe at the

696
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: end of the day when they leave practice, they go

697
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: home with the sense and the feeling of they've learned

698
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: something and it's some motherfunk out there who really care

699
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: about what's going on. You would feel me with me

700
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: as a kid, because you know, you know you as

701
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: a kid, sometimes you might not lock with the parents.

702
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: Then you might not like with going on that's cool,

703
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: or the brother at home or whatever, and then there's

704
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: somebody you can connect with that just understand it. All

705
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: you give me, I ain't take a mama's side, daddy side,

706
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: brother side of teacher side. You just be cool, don't

707
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: get into no ship and me and you straight. And

708
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: I think that really resonates with some of the kids exactly.

709
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, man, because I know James talked

710
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: about it all the time. And one thing James just said,

711
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: he made a really like big point because once these

712
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: kids turned thirteen or four teen, they leave us, we

713
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: have to have something that work. We can really just

714
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: keep something going for them for the next three or

715
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: four years, something for him, because you know, eight, some

716
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: people stop playing youth football, basketball or whatever and just

717
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: never play again after that, right, they start getting to

718
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: other stuff. You know, they may not be interested in

719
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: sport no more. But we we really definitely, man, we

720
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: gotta sit down and and and put some stuff together.

721
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: You're already doing the eight and I know where your

722
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: heart is, would the James. And that's one of the

723
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: really biggest things for us over the next few months

724
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: to established some stuff. You know, shout out the snoop,

725
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: shout out the flow rider, because all of them to

726
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: dudes put their time and their money, you know where

727
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: it's at. You know, they started with these babies. But

728
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: like James said, we just can't ignore the seventeen and

729
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: sixteen year olds and stuff like that. And you know,

730
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a thing like the way they say

731
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: you can't help everybody, man, but I damn should want

732
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: to try. You know what I'm saying? What man? You

733
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: know what you sitting there to talking about this stuff

734
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: just pissed me off. Man. You know that all the

735
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: people out there, start talking to your neighbors. Let's go

736
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: back to the old value. Start talking to the cat

737
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: to live next door to you, the kid to live

738
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: next door to you. See if he are right. My

739
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: wife was telling me the other day that she saw

740
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: a guy that looked like he thought he was a

741
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: whole boat, like a grown man. It turned out it

742
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: was like a little eleven year old kid. He was

743
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: out there asking for change you in front of people's

744
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: business or whatever. They called the police on him. She said,

745
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: to dude, stood up, he's a little kid. You know

746
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: the kids, and you know, kids should get an opportunity

747
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: to be kids, man, not just like you know, a

748
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: picture the stuff that we grew up in. Man. I

749
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: just couldn't see my kids living life like that. So

750
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: I think some of these kids living, say he living,

751
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: Some of them got to take care of themselves because

752
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: mama doing something pops in that home. So some of

753
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: these kids out there raising theirselves pretty much. You know

754
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, we didn't got bad and it's

755
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: getting worser. So not only reaching out to the dudes,

756
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: we got to reach out to these mothers and tell

757
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: these mothers they need to stand up and be mothers. Uh.

758
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: It ain't about the club every motherfucking night hanging out

759
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: drinking and getting high. You know what I'm saying. All

760
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: the all the black men get the bad end of

761
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: the stick. But there's some women out there that shouldn't

762
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: have motherfucking kids. It's some women out there that that

763
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: their kids for a boyfriend, you know what I'm saying,

764
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: or for that pedophile motherfucker. So we just need to

765
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: check ourselves. Man, hein the only eleven year old kid

766
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: that's out there, you know what I'm saying. In the change. Yeah,

767
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: So this is one thing I want to propose all

768
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: your business owners out there, everybody, We're gonna put some

769
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: stuff together. If y'all want to be a part of it,

770
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: hitting us up at the chronicles podcasts and Gmail dot com.

771
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: You know, it ain't even hard with all the black

772
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: successful men and women out here today to get an

773
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: organization and you can get three builders with with fos

774
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: from each motherfucking person of wealth here to build for

775
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: these teenagers. These young people are here today. You know

776
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It don't take a lot of money

777
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: to do this from one motherfucker's and take a jay

778
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: Z to spend a million dollars. It just takes the

779
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: right people to step up and put their money where

780
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: their mouth is and say, okay, I invested five and

781
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: get the right people to run that ship, and then

782
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: we can move from there and build and grow and

783
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: get these kids off the goddamn street. Teach these kids

784
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: in trade. Teach some of these kids how to read.

785
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: You got you got some kids, some some talent out

786
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: there that that these little young cats in or the box,

787
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: and and you reap the benefits later. You know what

788
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You ain't gonna see him right there and there,

789
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: but you read. The beneficis later. It's not hard to invest,

790
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: but you just want to invest in the right thing,

791
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: and four hundred dollars to save a brother or kid

792
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: is worth it that eliminates the police bullshit. Only when

793
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: she see one thing I trip off of and then

794
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: you gotta look at the police are sets up it.

795
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Some of us have an attitude soon as the police

796
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: come up to us too. And you know, me and

797
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Reggie used to arguing about this all the time. Sometimes

798
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: no matter if you got an attitude, because when they

799
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: walk up to their car, to your car, they got

800
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: an attitude. They got their hand on their guns. Some

801
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: of them just want to see if they can work

802
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: with you and how far can they work with you.

803
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: By that time, it's too late, because the average cat

804
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: in the hood is like, man, why the funk y'all

805
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: sucking with me? Now? They're mad? So from from from

806
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: zero to fifty is on from fifty to a hundred,

807
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: one of us don't got killed because we ain't replying

808
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: that we ain't listening. And that ship is designed by

809
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: their motherfucker's to say stop resisting. Once you say stop resisting,

810
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: its own. From that point dog his own. You know

811
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some of the ships look at and

812
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: see on Facebook, just don't say ship to him. It's

813
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: better not to open your fucking mouth. You don't have

814
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: to tell them who you are. You don't have to

815
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: mention your name. We gotta learn the law. And once

816
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: we learn the law and start busting codes on they asked,

817
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: they know what they can't on how they came funk

818
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: with us. Ship is on us because we ain't paying attention.

819
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: And if it's a broad next to you or one

820
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: of the homies next to you, we have it up.

821
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: Fuck that none times out can and let them go

822
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: about their motherfucking business. But if we don't start helping

823
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: each other, dog police ain't been to help us and

824
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: know and and nobody feel from Africa when it come

825
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: help us. If we don't help those that need help,

826
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: and we know we need help because they've been there,

827
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: I've been in it. I lived that life. I can't

828
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: knock down thinking that pick up a pistol and go

829
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: out there and do some foky ship because I live

830
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: that ship. So any motherfucker that going out there and

831
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: say they stupid bastard killing the wolf, he's a hypocrite

832
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: and you live that life. So instead of talking and

833
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: and doing all that other ship man, motherfucker's just gotta

834
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: help people, man, And that's what we are. That's why

835
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: we're here, and what I want to do is I

836
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: want to leave everybody on this note right there, because

837
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: I think we don't text on everything. We can touch

838
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: you on about this, and you know, like I said,

839
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: hopefully we don't have to talk about at least for

840
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: a while. Think about it. Only take a minute to

841
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: lose your life. It only takes one minute, so a

842
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: little simple traffic stop to turn into just a tragedy.

843
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: So the next time the police pulled one of y'all over,

844
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: and keep your hands on the team, and two, give

845
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: him what he asked for. Be cordial and get on

846
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: even if it's a bullshit ticket or whatever like that.

847
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Just live to live to see another day. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's so, that's all I gotta say for us. It

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Speaker 1: takes away the intent, man, it takes it away. It

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Speaker 1: takes the upper hand from them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you know what, you're gonna run into that one

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Speaker 1: that want to put his hands on you, that one

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Speaker 1: that's mad. What we gotta realize, when Donald Trump was

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Speaker 1: in office, they showed us they had racist motherfucker's in

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Speaker 1: the military, racist motherfucker's and in office, racist motherfucking police

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Speaker 1: officers and all different branches and and the Marines. The

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Speaker 1: whole nine is, the odds are against us as a

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Speaker 1: people because they got people in higher places than us,

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Speaker 1: so they're not giving a funk about how we feel

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Speaker 1: about certain ships. They're just sicking the dogs on us.

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Speaker 1: And Nick's ain't panting to these police out of here

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Speaker 1: killing motherfucker's And they got women out here. Women went

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Speaker 1: to jail for uh, look at these dudes out of here,

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Speaker 1: day out of the trip for for for hitting with

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Speaker 1: the capital. It's women, military women. It's against us. Dog.

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Speaker 1: I'm scared to get my cheer poor because that motherfucker

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Speaker 1: my dimness might be a motherfucking clansman and he might

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Speaker 1: just suck me up with something, thank you. I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: It's people in higher places that are racist, and if

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Speaker 1: we ain't paying attention to it, or we say hi

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Speaker 1: to the dinners and the doctor, but it ain't just

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Speaker 1: the police, man, I'm just gonna shut it down. Just man.

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Speaker 1: We we really got to focus and pay attention to

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Speaker 1: what's happening to us pitching off. And you know what

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Speaker 1: I haven't only I know you have quite see it

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Speaker 1: in my face. I haven't been this fresh using a

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Speaker 1: long time. We're just doing a research to put this

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Speaker 1: episode together and doing everything. I'm like, Okay, don't be

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Speaker 1: mad at the motherfucking polish if we out there commit

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Speaker 1: the same exactly what That's what I'm saying. It's like

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Speaker 1: we're doing the same ship. So, like I said, eight, James,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start getting busy. Thought it's sound good. Alright

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Speaker 1: the show all right, fellas, all right, we'll kick you

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Speaker 1: all next week. Heys. Well, that concludes another episode of

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