Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that nulture? Yes, goodness, Cultista's calling
Speaker 1: high level of brownoutes today in l A. So if
Speaker 1: I melt down, just blame mother Nature. Oh no, you
Speaker 1: hate to hear that. She is soaring. The temperatures are
Speaker 1: in the triple digits. L A is under attack by heat,
Speaker 1: by heat. Ain't that the story. I'm gonna be there
Speaker 1: in a few days, and I'm not really forward to it.
Speaker 1: Bring your skimpiest clothes, because, honey, you are gonna want
Speaker 1: to be very prepared for the heat. I just came
Speaker 1: from Palm Springs. My brain is cooked. Tell me how
Speaker 1: how your LDW was such a good l d w um.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in my favorite locale,
Speaker 1: the Ace Hotel pool. I was sort of like, you know, vibing,
Speaker 1: as they say, and I thought, if this was heaven,
Speaker 1: I would say, period, period. Yes, if this is heaven, honey,
Speaker 1: install the pearly gates. I don't see them. Boo. Cut
Speaker 1: to me with a frozen Paloma salt or tahini rim tropical. Well,
Speaker 1: we haven't even made the tropical yet, and you know
Speaker 1: we went to tropical. See me sitting by the pool
Speaker 1: frozen Paloma salt or Tahini rim, depending on your which
Speaker 1: one of the binary you want that day, and then
Speaker 1: sipping with your legs in the damn water watching flops
Speaker 1: just like flop around the strangers of it, all the
Speaker 1: characters you meet. If that's Heaven, sign me up for Heaven.
Speaker 1: Sign me up for Heaven. Subscribe, Subscribe to Heaven. I
Speaker 1: I love you what I know. It's a place you
Speaker 1: love to go. Would you say that you are you know,
Speaker 1: Ross Matthews level sort of Morganic Michael's level, Palm Springs.
Speaker 1: I can't claim it as a NIP code yet, but
Speaker 1: I do know that I will end up at the
Speaker 1: Tropical bar a completely like other shade other than I
Speaker 1: am now because of Big in the Sun. At some point,
Speaker 1: let's say, when I get to like, you know, sixty
Speaker 1: sixty six out there, they'll be in the outdoor area. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: post up in that outdoor area where like, um, all
Speaker 1: the it's like it's very o c out there, oh
Speaker 1: speaking which we literally we literally saw Vicky gun Wilson
Speaker 1: there that one time. Right, I was just gonna say
Speaker 1: this was before she was like, uh sort of figure
Speaker 1: to us. But she was really very central in the restaurant.
Speaker 1: She was sat very visibly. Yeah, she was really living
Speaker 1: her tropical fantasy. You and I had such opposite weeks,
Speaker 1: I would say, in such opposite climbs climates. You know
Speaker 1: told us about your climb, Miley Cyrush. Well here's here's
Speaker 1: the climb. Okay, and can we say it's a ruler culture.
Speaker 1: It's the climate. That's all culture number thirty, it's the
Speaker 1: climb period. I was working in Iceland and it was
Speaker 1: one of it was a life changing experience. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I do have to come out and tell come out now,
Speaker 1: I have to tell the reader's a story that really
Speaker 1: deals with shame. Oh my god, you're gonna do this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this because I I talked about in therapy.
Speaker 1: I told you were the one of the first people
Speaker 1: I told I support this and I want you to
Speaker 1: go off now, Queen, Okay, Queen, this is truly the
Speaker 1: honesty zone. It's crossed over into the period. The honesty
Speaker 1: zone is indefinitely canceled, but every now and then we'll
Speaker 1: bring it to law sculturistas. Okay. Now, I had a
Speaker 1: day of work where we started out at a waterfall,
Speaker 1: one of the many waterfalls, gorgeous waterfalls in Iceland. Start
Speaker 1: had a day starting out there, just couldn't believe what
Speaker 1: I was seeing. I was like, Wow, I'm very lucky
Speaker 1: to be working period, and lucky to be working in
Speaker 1: this environment. Wow, what a life we were having one
Speaker 1: of the best days of your life. Yeah, let's say
Speaker 1: nothing of the animals that you met along the way. Well,
Speaker 1: I was going to say. Next stop was the locks
Speaker 1: and Horse Farm, one of the famous horse farms in Iceland.
Speaker 1: Ben Still, it was just there writing one of the
Speaker 1: Icelandic horses. But a week ago, huge star, huge star director,
Speaker 1: even huge director and me nominated director. I him best
Speaker 1: of luck to him at the big show. At the
Speaker 1: Big show and got to ride an Icelandic course, which
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's horse eugenics because the Icelandic horses can't
Speaker 1: leave No, I'm sorry, No other horses can enter Iceland.
Speaker 1: And if an Icelandic horse leaves Iceland for any reason,
Speaker 1: it cannot come back. I'm sorry. Is this spiritual? It's
Speaker 1: not spiritual, it's it's I think it's just like, uh,
Speaker 1: because all the Icelandic courses are purebred horses there between
Speaker 1: the size of a pony and like a full on mayor.
Speaker 1: So basically they don't want any with other horses not
Speaker 1: of Iceland because it could fun. It's for diseases. It's
Speaker 1: for disease reasons mostly period. But you know, sort of
Speaker 1: when I say it, it sounds like eugenics and it's
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, But I didn't sound like that when you
Speaker 1: said it. Most horses, I think horses only have four
Speaker 1: walks four gates, right, Icelandic horses have a fifth gate walk.
Speaker 1: They were given a little bit more that God must
Speaker 1: have spent a little more time on them. They have you.
Speaker 1: The fifth walk is a trot. It's called a tilt
Speaker 1: an Icelandic. And I was shown a video of my
Speaker 1: horse handler riding this horse bare back while holding a
Speaker 1: full glass of beer. Picture your favorite beer filled to them,
Speaker 1: and you're holding it to the side while you're on
Speaker 1: an Icelandic horse that is galloping at such a steady
Speaker 1: clip and such at such a steady level way that
Speaker 1: the that the beer, not a drop of beer, is
Speaker 1: spilling out. Isn't that amazing? That is so? And so
Speaker 1: what happened now, I'm telling you Matt, you would have
Speaker 1: loved this. I'm I'm wrapped right now, and it really is.
Speaker 1: You were truly in a different environment than me. You
Speaker 1: sort of in the mountains with the horses, me in
Speaker 1: the pool with the palm springs residents like this is
Speaker 1: a tale of two cities that I've that I've ever
Speaker 1: ever heard, never heard of, tell of two cities like
Speaker 1: this like this now, I was having, as you said,
Speaker 1: one of the best days of my life. And I
Speaker 1: even told you this. When I did, you reached out
Speaker 1: to say that when I prefaced the story that I'm
Speaker 1: about to tell the readers to you, I said, this
Speaker 1: was one of the best days of my life. I thought,
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky to be experiencing these experiences. And then
Speaker 1: at one point, it's a new deal. They're turning the
Speaker 1: cameras at the horse farm. Sure, I have a costume
Speaker 1: on that is five layers, both top and bottom. I
Speaker 1: have crazy layers. The sound guy that's a crazy rig
Speaker 1: on me with the wire just sticks the wire behind me.
Speaker 1: So you know, a sound person will typically put the
Speaker 1: microphone tape it to your your clothing, around your declate
Speaker 1: your neck. I'm just I'm just your show. Biz legend.
Speaker 1: You're very seasoned in the business, in the ways of
Speaker 1: set life. I'm aware of where the place. We can
Speaker 1: just say it like that. We don't have to say
Speaker 1: too much of this verb between I know where the
Speaker 1: microsc It's true, I too early to say legend in
Speaker 1: my career. I think you have to wait a couple
Speaker 1: of years. Jennifer Lewis herself said that you have the
Speaker 1: it factor. We'll get to that later because I have
Speaker 1: things to say about that episode, because it was truly
Speaker 1: one of the best, one of the best interviews conversations
Speaker 1: I've been privileged to listen to more on that la
Speaker 1: That's not true, Ellen, but continue with your story. Legend.
Speaker 1: The wire gets looped behind my back and typically you know,
Speaker 1: they put the mic pack on your waist, clip it
Speaker 1: to your waist, and again I have layers and layers
Speaker 1: and layers of clothing on me. I go to my
Speaker 1: trailer to relieve, relieve, defecate, take a big show. Can
Speaker 1: I just pause for one second the fact that relieve
Speaker 1: and defecate sort of mean the same thing. They feel
Speaker 1: so different, like I'm stepping away to relieve myself and
Speaker 1: I'm stepping away to defecate. You're saying the same thing,
Speaker 1: but the where do you use can change everything, And
Speaker 1: it's a rule of culture number forty nine. The word
Speaker 1: word can change change everything. We'll defecate has some more
Speaker 1: fricative sounds. Again, it's so freaking like like the cut
Speaker 1: the foot, like it's just it's the death. It is
Speaker 1: letting you know something sharp, hard and very real about
Speaker 1: life is happening. Defecate relief sounds so meditative, sounds so natural.
Speaker 1: Defecate that's hard. Anyway, continue iconic friend. I go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom in my trailer, and to take down my pants,
Speaker 1: I have to sort of move my scarf, move my pancho,
Speaker 1: take off my pants, take off my thermal leggings underneath business,
Speaker 1: take take down my compression guard. Moment. That's sort of
Speaker 1: like helping me snatch a little bit for camera business,
Speaker 1: which is which is what you know, what the costume
Speaker 1: department gave me the movie magic. The wire is still
Speaker 1: sort of mind you tatally behind me, my running down
Speaker 1: my back, running down to the waist of the pants,
Speaker 1: which is at this point on the floor or close
Speaker 1: to the floor. I'm not one of those poopers who
Speaker 1: you know, and some of these people and the most
Speaker 1: iconic people, let's just say, are the people at public
Speaker 1: urinals this elementary school style who put down the pants
Speaker 1: to the ankles. Yeah. I think those are the most
Speaker 1: iconic people around. And it shows the confidence that only
Speaker 1: people out there are aspiring to you, and I have
Speaker 1: a long way to go to get to that level. Well,
Speaker 1: and also, bone, you have to understand some people they
Speaker 1: have to get fully nude to in order to pee
Speaker 1: or defecate. Sorry everyone for the again found it. Sorry
Speaker 1: to these men and to these women, and so anyone
Speaker 1: out there listening. But those icons are wearing rompers, and
Speaker 1: you can't just do whatever you want. Okay, you can't
Speaker 1: just do whatever you want. You have to get legends
Speaker 1: through Jennifer lewis it factor legend? What happened next? I go,
Speaker 1: I turn around. Everything looks good. I flushed the toilet.
Speaker 1: I zip up, I pull up my compressions, my leggings,
Speaker 1: my pants. Yeah, you're thinking at that point period period,
Speaker 1: I go, I'm let me just re jigger the wire
Speaker 1: a little bit and I'm good to go. I have
Speaker 1: a huge poncho sort of draped over my ass as well.
Speaker 1: I feel a little tugged behind me as I walk
Speaker 1: out too set. We're shooting outdoors, mind you, and I'm
Speaker 1: also in a crazy wig color contacts. I look stupid
Speaker 1: for the comedy of the show. Aquafina is North from
Speaker 1: Queen's a very comedic show. Am I giving too much context? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Really what happened? I walked back. I walked back to set.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of horses all around. Crew people, wonderful Icelandic,
Speaker 1: union paid crew people, fulfilled lives. They're so these these
Speaker 1: people have worked one on every set you can think
Speaker 1: of in Iceland, the Northman Halo, every Nordic noir you
Speaker 1: can imagine. They are figures of esteem and respect. Executive
Speaker 1: producer Anna is saying that she's on the end of
Speaker 1: her seat. Okay, I'm I'm getting there. I walk right
Speaker 1: in front of video village and Sacy, the iconic former
Speaker 1: model who is now our production manager, Polish German beauty,
Speaker 1: coolest girl on set, at the front of esteem, respect
Speaker 1: and great beauty is calling. Is making restaurant reservations for
Speaker 1: the entire casting crew every night at the most exclusive
Speaker 1: places in wreck You. Actually, this woman has power. This
Speaker 1: woman has seen this woman understands Queen's legends, Jason Queen's legend.
Speaker 1: She's seen it all. She knows he's dying with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she You would think that she has not experienced much
Speaker 1: shame in her life. Maybe, and maybe that's a production.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm assuming too much. She turned, We have
Speaker 1: not interacted too many times. At this point, I hear
Speaker 1: her call out my name. She goes, oh, Bowen, you
Speaker 1: have um you have a little piece of paper dangling
Speaker 1: behind you. I go, what? And before I pull up
Speaker 1: the wire to see to fish up what was caught
Speaker 1: on it, because I assume it was on my wire.
Speaker 1: The director peeks out from behind village and he runs.
Speaker 1: So the director of someone who runs a film a
Speaker 1: TV set sort of is the leader. They're a figure
Speaker 1: of esteem and um great pathority authority, and they're they're
Speaker 1: a figure of respect. And if you look silly in
Speaker 1: front of them, that's not great. You are the Jester
Speaker 1: Flop period, the Jester Flop period and the clown square
Speaker 1: known as a film set. Our director, the Great Jordan
Speaker 1: Kim comes out and goes, oh, yeah, what is that? Oh,
Speaker 1: I fish up the wire. It is a used wad
Speaker 1: of toilet paper. Full of brown. And when you do
Speaker 1: stay brown, you do mean your poop. Your poop was
Speaker 1: all over your my desication. I've never felt everyone should
Speaker 1: I've never felt more embarrassed in my light. Sister, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Can you imagine the environment?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a more humiliating moment? I can't let
Speaker 1: you hang out here by yourself. So I said to you,
Speaker 1: if you shared this story, that I would share something
Speaker 1: as well. No, no, no, no. I had a speedo
Speaker 1: and I ruined it when I was sick in in
Speaker 1: in Fire Island. I shared in the speedo and I
Speaker 1: had to throw it. I threw it over the ledge.
Speaker 1: I threw it over the blood. You you wait with
Speaker 1: your shark man. I did go down and get it
Speaker 1: and put it in the in the in the garbage,
Speaker 1: just kidding? Did I? This will be one of the
Speaker 1: great questions of law school ESA's. Did I go down
Speaker 1: eventually and pick up the speedo and actually dispose of
Speaker 1: it or did I just throw it over the allege
Speaker 1: at Fire Island? It's not giving honesty's own if you're
Speaker 1: not being Can I say something? No one will ever
Speaker 1: find out the answer to this question. It will be
Speaker 1: my great secret. But this is the thing. It's a
Speaker 1: secret for you. And know what, you did not have
Speaker 1: to tell anybody this period. Well, I'm saying, actually, I
Speaker 1: take it back you. I would have to volunteer this
Speaker 1: story to someone like me, your best friend, and I
Speaker 1: don't judge you for it, my girl, your girl, and
Speaker 1: I would say that I there was no escaping the
Speaker 1: truth of the matter. There was no escaping the shame
Speaker 1: of being in front of all your coworkers on a set,
Speaker 1: on a foreign set, with people that you are you
Speaker 1: I've only started to get familiar with. There is no
Speaker 1: competition at all. Your story is the humiliating moment of
Speaker 1: a lifetime. I was simply trying to be charitable in
Speaker 1: my sharings because I feel so sad that you flopped
Speaker 1: in the Clowns Square, so hard as to be covered
Speaker 1: in your filth in front of figures of great esteem, respect, beauty, leadership,
Speaker 1: and talent. Did I mention there were former models on
Speaker 1: this set? Polish German legends. They had a great fortune
Speaker 1: of beauty, These people, they had a great fortune of beauty.
Speaker 1: Not I, Well, it gets better. I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: even think I told you this part. Tell me more
Speaker 1: about it. I'm mortified, and I raced well. First of all,
Speaker 1: sweet Jordan, God bless him, a kind effective director. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't have seen that. But I've known him many years
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's he's wonderful. As I run
Speaker 1: away after realizing what had happened, he says to me,
Speaker 1: it happens. And I and this is what I said,
Speaker 1: staring at the ground walking away, I go, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: And I run back and I run. I scurry back
Speaker 1: to my trailer and see that there is at least
Speaker 1: two wads of use toilet paper on the ground in
Speaker 1: the trap that I had, that that had come off
Speaker 1: the tail. But my my little wire tail on the
Speaker 1: way over. And there are teamsters p A s kind
Speaker 1: of like who have been there all along, who probably
Speaker 1: have gone, what is that? My girl was set decorating period.
Speaker 1: I was props department. I was I was giving production design. Yeah,
Speaker 1: special effects, special effects, practical things. You were making movies
Speaker 1: this week. It was movie magic, this movie magic. And
Speaker 1: I walked back to my trailer and I go, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I've shot all over this set, and so
Speaker 1: I was I could not bring myself to talk. I
Speaker 1: could not bring myself to talk about it to anyone
Speaker 1: until the last night where Saucy took us out for drinks, dined,
Speaker 1: and then at one point I did say to say
Speaker 1: to Saucy, well, I was telling the story to two
Speaker 1: other people UM at the bar, and then Saucy was
Speaker 1: sitting next to me and she had over she was
Speaker 1: in another conversation, but she overheard me recounting the story,
Speaker 1: and then Saucy goes, you know what, Bowen, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that you're like, you have a sense of humor
Speaker 1: about it now, because I was so scared that I
Speaker 1: had embarrassed you so much by letting you know what
Speaker 1: was happening. And I said, no, Saucy, you did me
Speaker 1: such a favor. She goes, I just wanted. She was like,
Speaker 1: I had to let you know before more people saw.
Speaker 1: And she I really do think she she changed my life.
Speaker 1: She is a heroine, I have to say, has stepped
Speaker 1: forth and really taking her place in the last culture
Speaker 1: Stas canon. And it is UM actually our honor to
Speaker 1: announce that UM Saucy is a winner of the Legend Award,
Speaker 1: the last culture Stas Legend Award, and she might be
Speaker 1: nominated for more and the nomine the nomination, the full
Speaker 1: nomination will be Saucy, the Icelandic production manager who told
Speaker 1: Bowen he had shipped on his costume. On his costitume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean she is a nominee. She is a recipient
Speaker 1: of the Legend Award, and that does not mean she
Speaker 1: has won the Legend Award of the Culture Awards, but
Speaker 1: today she is or was it the Icon Award that
Speaker 1: we give. There's there's there's the Legend Award, there is
Speaker 1: the Queen dhom Award, of course, the Queen Him Award.
Speaker 1: She I think she's up for all those categories. You're right,
Speaker 1: I think that we already have a nominations leader, but
Speaker 1: we can't announce yet, we can't adjust. Around the corner
Speaker 1: is going to be the last countries those Culture Awards nominations.
Speaker 1: Just around the corner. It's gonna be a nominate, It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a category reveal first, and then at a
Speaker 1: later date we will reveal the nominees. Because there will
Speaker 1: be new categories and some a remnants of categories from
Speaker 1: last year. Some remnants just like what Bowen was leaving
Speaker 1: all around the set. Remnant. Okay, hold on and then
Speaker 1: very quickly just to tap up the story. I did
Speaker 1: also tell Sarah's Reman and Celeste because I'm so embarrassed
Speaker 1: to know, like I was already text freed with them,
Speaker 1: already liked to tell people I think I did. I can't.
Speaker 1: You have to own it. And I texted them I
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, the worst thing, one of the
Speaker 1: worst thing that's ever happened in my life, just happened
Speaker 1: to me. And they go, what what happened? And then
Speaker 1: I told them and then Sarah God bless her, said,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just with a costume designer on
Speaker 1: on a job and she was like, and she has
Speaker 1: worked with every single actor you can think of. And
Speaker 1: she goes to Sarah, every actor period has shot their
Speaker 1: pants while on the job, and that is I need
Speaker 1: to believe that in order to survive this. And here's
Speaker 1: some just if you, if this helps you, here's some actors.
Speaker 1: And so when we say that every actor has shopped
Speaker 1: themselves well on the job, I just wanted to name
Speaker 1: some actors and they've all shipped themselves. Gina Davis, she
Speaker 1: shipped herself. Jessica the Great Jessica Chastain has pooped. Um
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks poops, Yes, Angela Landsbury pooped, and
Speaker 1: she she sometimes would poop in her costume because she's
Speaker 1: an actor and every actor has done it, Melanie Lynskey,
Speaker 1: So you're sharonin has been pooping for several years now
Speaker 1: in big films, And here's a transition for you. Harry Styles,
Speaker 1: Chris Pine, Jemma Chan, Florence Pew. They all shot themselves
Speaker 1: on the set of Don't Worry Darling. Yeah, and Olivia
Speaker 1: Wild should herself in her acting costume and her regular
Speaker 1: clothes as a director on the set. Incredible, don't direct
Speaker 1: So it's not just exclusive to the actors, it's also directors.
Speaker 1: M wow, yeah, oh yeah, let's talk about We talked
Speaker 1: about what's been happening at Venice. Did you see their
Speaker 1: fucking looks? Because Florence absolutely, she said, I'm showing up
Speaker 1: for one thing and but you get a moment though
Speaker 1: that that leg and that shoe she was giving movie
Speaker 1: star arriving period. Once a year at Venice. Once a
Speaker 1: year at Venice, there is one person who cements themselves
Speaker 1: as a legend if they have not already with a
Speaker 1: with a Valentino ocuture look that it features Ostrich feathers.
Speaker 1: What we're seeing that was Lady Gaga and that pink
Speaker 1: thing that was Valentino. Like that iconic photo of gagat
Speaker 1: Venice when it was raining just a little and there
Speaker 1: was just those droplets like reflecting the flash. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's one of the most beautiful photos ever taken. And
Speaker 1: we also have to say Becca producer Becca has just
Speaker 1: like chimed in and says also the purple because she
Speaker 1: showed up looking like, honestly, I would have accepted that
Speaker 1: as the as the look. I was like, like, she
Speaker 1: she literally showed up in that purple just to arrive
Speaker 1: in Venice pre costume change, and I was like that
Speaker 1: was the look. I was good with it. Then this
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, history is made. It inspired me,
Speaker 1: honest there's like this is the aesthetic. I was like,
Speaker 1: I am a short legged person and so is Florence
Speaker 1: and she's making it work. Let's let's just say, let's
Speaker 1: just pause for one second to say, Hugiota, it's piggioto huge,
Speaker 1: it's down. And here's something about piggioto. Piggiota is a
Speaker 1: is a star, is an actress? Is a talent and
Speaker 1: is in her prime. And this is what I was
Speaker 1: thinking when I was driving from Palm Springs today. It
Speaker 1: required much of my thought. I think we have a
Speaker 1: generation of these young girls, these movie stars who are
Speaker 1: turning fashion. Zenda gives it. Florence just gave it. Fucking
Speaker 1: Timmy Shallamy gives it. Like my my girl showed up.
Speaker 1: The young girl showed up backless, completely backless. You gotta
Speaker 1: give it up. I it was lot of Flynn Boyle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Countess Luian obviously, I have to say. But you know
Speaker 1: how we've been saying for so long, like there are
Speaker 1: no movie stars anymore, there were no real movie stars anymore.
Speaker 1: I kind of am starting to disagree with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just named three, and then you think
Speaker 1: about Tom Holland, like all these people are good, they're hot,
Speaker 1: they're really talented, they're you know, they're different than what
Speaker 1: usually gets shoved down your throat. Zenda in particular, like
Speaker 1: she to me, I think I was thinking about how
Speaker 1: she has like a one name, like she has a mononym,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, because when you can give legend,
Speaker 1: give legend legend, and that's a royal culture. Number One hundred.
Speaker 1: If you can give legend, give legend, legend, legend. Venice
Speaker 1: is interesting. I'm decided to see the Whale. That got
Speaker 1: a great reception. It was very, very fun to see
Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser get emotional. It was a huge Brendan Frasier
Speaker 1: week for me. Actually, really, did you watch a lot
Speaker 1: of people are watching the People? Are people watch The
Speaker 1: Mummy this week? A lot? Girl? The Mummy Too was
Speaker 1: on television when we were getting ready one night in
Speaker 1: Palm Springs and I realized I haven't sat and watched
Speaker 1: this movie and sometime Rachel Weiss that was a moment
Speaker 1: in screen history when she rocked that buld eye and
Speaker 1: she was snatched. Rachel Vice is such a star. And
Speaker 1: Mummy Too was the moment. And that film is incredibly
Speaker 1: scary and dark. There was a moment where a Mummy
Speaker 1: sucks the life out of another guy. I was really
Speaker 1: upset and distressed by it. That's really scary. It was
Speaker 1: so scary. Bough And I think the Mummy is due
Speaker 1: for some sort of grand return in the culture. Here's something.
Speaker 1: They just refurbished the attraction in Orlando. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: Mummy ride in Orlando right now? And things are absolutely
Speaker 1: popping off in Orlando. Do you hear about this epic universe?
Speaker 1: Have I told you about the epic universe? You've told
Speaker 1: me every time I take the readers that there's a
Speaker 1: classic monsters land with Frankenstein Dracula. Yes, all that, And
Speaker 1: then there's been more leaked about it. And this is
Speaker 1: the rumor that the like diagetic of it like is
Speaker 1: that it's now the year two and it's like a
Speaker 1: museum land and the Frankenstein Castle is now run by
Speaker 1: his great great great granddaughter Victoria Frankenstein, who apparently is
Speaker 1: a legend and invites you into the Frankenstein manner for
Speaker 1: an experience with classic monsters, like in a zoo setting
Speaker 1: and of course in great universal rides and attractions fashion.
Speaker 1: Something period goes period wrong period and monsters are unleashed.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something right now, as I point
Speaker 1: in your face, get into it. Do you don't have
Speaker 1: to tell me. I'm already there. I'm into it already there.
Speaker 1: Remember that Lone Star song that was iconic? Wow, I
Speaker 1: love this premise. Victoria Victoria Frankenstein, who I want to
Speaker 1: be every who more? Who who should play her? This
Speaker 1: is what I said, okay, who should play? Everyone, readers
Speaker 1: get together with us. We need to start dream fancasting.
Speaker 1: Victoria Frankens. Victoria Frankenstein. She runs a manner and she says,
Speaker 1: come here, I have something to show you. Who is
Speaker 1: it who plays her? Icon Florence. You might have missed
Speaker 1: this earlier when you were talking about Piggioto saying she's
Speaker 1: a star, she's an actress. Digiotagia. Sorry did goodaidiodaidioda? That
Speaker 1: sounds like that. That's literally a hook Piggioda, my fucking
Speaker 1: as period short Piggioto as a bop Piggiotaga. That is
Speaker 1: actually really, really, really something we should think about. We
Speaker 1: should think about that. Piggioto is a short haired queen,
Speaker 1: much like Missflow Florence showing up in these looks amazing.
Speaker 1: It's Florence. Pugioto down Florence. That's it. She's taking flight.
Speaker 1: I choose you, as they have always iconically said, I
Speaker 1: choose you. Talk about that as a moment to talk
Speaker 1: about what it feels like as a POKEM wont to
Speaker 1: be chosen by the master. I choose you. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's an iconic emotion. Three words monosyllabic words in the
Speaker 1: culture forever so seated with this, I p you can
Speaker 1: never say I choose you in a setting without evoking
Speaker 1: ash catch him Sorry, Sarah Barrella is sorry. Sarah. By
Speaker 1: the way, we love that profile for The New Yorker.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And so I've now seen her in it,
Speaker 1: and I have to tell you, congratulations to the entire
Speaker 1: cast who just left, because this is a perfect show.
Speaker 1: Sarah Brellis, where is the tony on her mantle? We
Speaker 1: should consider putting it there. I listened to after sleeping
Speaker 1: on it for so long, finally listened to the now
Speaker 1: like seven year old album of What's Inside, like her
Speaker 1: singing all the waitress songs. When he sees Me, when
Speaker 1: he sees when he sees Me is truly when she
Speaker 1: takes it down me octave again at the end, when
Speaker 1: she goes won't st again, when she when she's like
Speaker 1: wailed the whole thing. I loved it. When he sees
Speaker 1: me in the cast recording, it's a great It stands
Speaker 1: out as a character, you know, sort of like number right,
Speaker 1: like it's Canna a Glenn, It's it's like and she's
Speaker 1: in She did a great job. With it did a
Speaker 1: great job. But then to hear Sarah just give it
Speaker 1: like a precision, do you know what I mean? Is
Speaker 1: and and have it still works so well as a song,
Speaker 1: I go wow, like I almost like this better? Dare
Speaker 1: I say? I mean they're her songs, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I think that she's always going to be
Speaker 1: connected to them in a way. I do think, like
Speaker 1: in terms of she used to be mine, I think
Speaker 1: like Jesse Mueller really sang the ship out of that song.
Speaker 1: But I will also say on the duet, um you
Speaker 1: matter to me, Sarah just is so you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like her sound, the way she acts, like
Speaker 1: the way she tells a story is just so simple
Speaker 1: and present that like it's perfect for um Moments in
Speaker 1: the woods, and like it deserves to go down as
Speaker 1: like one of the best interpretations of that because she's
Speaker 1: just so thoughtful with every note and every word. She's thoughtful,
Speaker 1: and literally that's what that song is. It's there's thoughts, thoughts,
Speaker 1: it's thoughts of thoughts of thoughts, thoughts, thought, and so
Speaker 1: Sarah is able to just be pinpoint accurate with like
Speaker 1: the way she places where you're feeling things and it's
Speaker 1: just it was a treat and a treasure, and like, honestly,
Speaker 1: that is the type of thing you want to see
Speaker 1: when you go like to see life theater period and
Speaker 1: Moments in the Woods is a perfect example of especially
Speaker 1: in Sarah's take on it, of the Jennifer Lewis thing
Speaker 1: of like I don't cry, I make them cry, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not crying as the character. I'm I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: doing I'm making choices in order to try and evoke
Speaker 1: something from the audience, and it works. I was being
Speaker 1: facetious earlier when you were like that was an incredible
Speaker 1: interview because you were placing a lot of it on me,
Speaker 1: but but it really was. She was such like, the
Speaker 1: book is great. You finished the book is incredible. I
Speaker 1: finished the book so so so good. She's just like,
Speaker 1: not only is she so incredibly entertaining to speak to,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just always is are such a ride,
Speaker 1: but also like she really is smart and she's seen
Speaker 1: a lot, like this story about being conned by this
Speaker 1: guy that she fell in love with. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: just done and seen so much and so like every
Speaker 1: single time, I'm like like in the same vicinity as
Speaker 1: her like you walk away like feeling like, well, she's
Speaker 1: just a force of major and reading the book, I
Speaker 1: kept reminding myself for being reminded, that's Patricia, and I
Speaker 1: love that for You is so grounded in something that
Speaker 1: like you don't really get from Jennifer Lewis, the persona
Speaker 1: the person who writes like you know, her life, Patricia
Speaker 1: is something completely different. And I'm sure but and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Jennifer still like finds her way in somehow,
Speaker 1: but it's so not like Jennifer Lewis. You know what's
Speaker 1: funny is that when we were doing it on set,
Speaker 1: they definitely had the option to make it Jennifer Lewis,
Speaker 1: Like I will say, she definitely gave you some takes
Speaker 1: that were like really grand and like, you know a
Speaker 1: lot of power in the way that um, j Didnifer
Speaker 1: expresses it, which is an action where so like every
Speaker 1: another take she would really throw one away. And I've
Speaker 1: noticed that's what they used every single time. They really
Speaker 1: like gave like such a like the moments where she
Speaker 1: has so much heft are like that's so powerful, and
Speaker 1: they really they it was just really well found in
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I should just say that. I was very
Speaker 1: sad to miss that interview. But as I told you
Speaker 1: on a textbook with Jolkin Boster, you just got back
Speaker 1: from Burning Man, a transformative experience for him. Um, I
Speaker 1: did not mind. I did not mind listening to the
Speaker 1: two of you talked this one on one. It was
Speaker 1: so lovely to listen to. I was so I was
Speaker 1: just beaming the whole time for both of you. I
Speaker 1: was like, Matt has found a mentor and appear and
Speaker 1: a friend in this amazing person. And she you can
Speaker 1: tell she respects the hell out of you. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's very nice. It's very nice and honestly like I
Speaker 1: had just Um, I don't know, it's like she she
Speaker 1: but she does. She is onto something when she says
Speaker 1: when she said that things some people just have a
Speaker 1: little bit more like. I was thinking about that with
Speaker 1: Sarah when I was watching. I'm like, some people just
Speaker 1: have a little bit more like it's and yeah, it's soho.
Speaker 1: I just like think, you know, we're we're gonna see
Speaker 1: if she gives it on Wednesday, is miss Leah? Wow?
Speaker 1: That is right? That is within forty eight hours away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I was saying to someone that it's
Speaker 1: not like a full insurance policy to have Leah be Fanny.
Speaker 1: It could still be bad. I mean, of course it could.
Speaker 1: Anything could be better any time time. That's culture. Anything
Speaker 1: could be bad at any time any time. You know.
Speaker 1: What's funny but all this don't worry abouting stuff is
Speaker 1: it's like the reviews have come out and some people
Speaker 1: are like it's not that great, Like you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: all that went until like something that now is not
Speaker 1: that great. I haven't we haven't seen it. But the
Speaker 1: reviews are sort of like lukewarm on it, and I
Speaker 1: will still go through it, I'm so, But like it
Speaker 1: is funny that like sometimes like all this stuff goes
Speaker 1: into stuff that like could be bad at any time.
Speaker 1: It really could for all of the chatter around it,
Speaker 1: for all of the marketing dollars that go into it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just like most of the time I would
Speaker 1: say even you're just like was it was it worth it?
Speaker 1: And yeah? And then you think like, but would would
Speaker 1: people have been talking about this movie if it didn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, have all these things. Maybe they wouldn't. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. And this brings us to an
Speaker 1: interesting question is all press good press? Is it better
Speaker 1: to be talking about this all press is not good press? No,
Speaker 1: I did? I really disagree with that. It depends on
Speaker 1: the value assessment of like good in service to a
Speaker 1: goal or something. If the goal is to like talk
Speaker 1: about it, then yes, I think that's what people mean
Speaker 1: when they say that. But I'm like, it doesn't it's
Speaker 1: very hollow and not that it doesn't leave you feeling
Speaker 1: good after, you know, even to feel yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: at least we don't uncomfortable. Just no, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that you hate to feel like uncomfortable around something like
Speaker 1: That's probably the thing you want to feel the least
Speaker 1: when you go see something like especially like when you
Speaker 1: go see some someone perform live and it seems like
Speaker 1: they're really nervous or like that there's an ickor on
Speaker 1: the project, like it is distracting totally totally, and with
Speaker 1: Funny Girl, I'm just excited period to see it, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's it. But it's but but but what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is like, it's not a guarantee that Leah Michelle will
Speaker 1: like save Broadway just by nature of being in the show.
Speaker 1: And then I I had heard too that like back
Speaker 1: in the Glee days when they would go on tour,
Speaker 1: she would sing I think the first season, the first
Speaker 1: year they did this, she would say don't wait on
Speaker 1: My parade. And she only did it like twice because
Speaker 1: after both times it was like, this is too much
Speaker 1: on her voice. So I wonder, what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with this with this iteration of like her singing this song. Interesting,
Speaker 1: it's so funny that like you bring that song up
Speaker 1: in particular, and also Jennifer mentioned that song like last
Speaker 1: week she mentioned out being in such a moment because
Speaker 1: last night, like Barbara Streisan's Don't Ran on My Parade
Speaker 1: actually came on at Quads, which is great Palm Springs
Speaker 1: bar where they show all of these like iconic videos
Speaker 1: and everyone just sort of like points at the screen
Speaker 1: and screams um. But they did play don't run out
Speaker 1: My Parade by Barbara, and it really is such a
Speaker 1: shred from so many different perspectives, like she's so present
Speaker 1: on screen and such a star, and she sounds unbelievable
Speaker 1: and the shots are great and the narratives moving, and
Speaker 1: it's just a really great movie moment. And then you remember,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like someone else is gonna have to do
Speaker 1: it now, and that Barbara think still does creep on in.
Speaker 1: I mean, but at least you know she's going to
Speaker 1: be able to sing it, and at least we're seeing
Speaker 1: her on the second damn day she does it, so
Speaker 1: if she runs out of gas in the tank, it
Speaker 1: won't have been in our performance. Yeah. Well, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I kind of wish we were saying
Speaker 1: and and I don't I don't mean to say that,
Speaker 1: like I don't appreciate you taking me to see the show.
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm saying that I might see it again
Speaker 1: like a month later when she doesn't have the knee
Speaker 1: jack the Broadway jack Jack. Yeah, before she can see
Speaker 1: any damn reviews. It's gonna be really interesting to see
Speaker 1: what the crowd with the blak theater critics say about her.
Speaker 1: I'll be really interested. We'll be seeing it the day
Speaker 1: after reviews come out. Yeah, because that's and that's also
Speaker 1: like huge for the show to like to have it.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. It's like the Funny Girl
Speaker 1: Press that was not good pressed. But I think that
Speaker 1: show is gonna sell tickets. They have, But again that
Speaker 1: funny girl press, even as it bleeds into the Leah
Speaker 1: of it all. I'm like, we're not going in with
Speaker 1: great energy, even like the Leah can't read stuff, You're
Speaker 1: like can't reading thing. I just don't think it's that funny.
Speaker 1: Like I just think like Millie Bobby Brown, like that
Speaker 1: mime of her being like, hey, y'all have to hit
Speaker 1: some facets with my car, Like that to me was
Speaker 1: at least funny because it was so stupid, like Leah
Speaker 1: Michelle can't read. It's like I get that, like people
Speaker 1: are dragging Jamilla Jamil because like she like this is
Speaker 1: a blest and it's like Jamila stop, but also like
Speaker 1: it is sort of a blest, and also it's just
Speaker 1: not that funny, like she can read, Like it just
Speaker 1: doesn't make me laugh. Bobby. The difference between the Millie
Speaker 1: thing and the lead thing though that Millie being Millie
Speaker 1: was very very very shaken by that, and it's still
Speaker 1: like you cannot. I think she like was doing interviews
Speaker 1: in tears, being like this is such a cruel thing.
Speaker 1: But whereas with at least it's funny, whereas with Lea
Speaker 1: Michelle can'try and she's just like, no, read. It's sad,
Speaker 1: like why are they doing that? And it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's obviously gonna read. But the Leah thing. The funny
Speaker 1: thing about the Leah thing to me is that in
Speaker 1: that New Yorker piece, she's like, why are people saying
Speaker 1: that I can't read? I would show She goes, I
Speaker 1: would show up to the gleece that every day. I
Speaker 1: would know my lines. I can read. And you're like
Speaker 1: that that's something that you would say he didn't know
Speaker 1: how to read. That's funny response moment. Yeah, the joke
Speaker 1: itself is like fine, whatever, um, but her response to it,
Speaker 1: because she's Leah Michelle and you kind of are like,
Speaker 1: what a fucking idiot she is? I mean like that
Speaker 1: is the that's the fun part to me. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like it's like, just sing yourself and be like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Matt and I'm not lying about that. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, what do they mean I can't read? I've
Speaker 1: read so many books. Here's three books I have read.
Speaker 1: That's okay, Mama, slow it down, reader, readerlow it down reader.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I don't I don't. I don't feel bad
Speaker 1: about calling her an idiot on this podcast. She's not
Speaker 1: a reader, so she's she won't she won't listen. I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about very quickly. Do we want to
Speaker 1: talk about this Leo thing real quick? What Leo thing?
Speaker 1: The that he broke up with this girl like days
Speaker 1: after her twenty five birthday, and that this is the
Speaker 1: pattern that he dates women until they turned and then
Speaker 1: he dumps them. Here's my take on that. It's just like, okay, then,
Speaker 1: like girls, if you know this, then you know this.
Speaker 1: He's just this kind of guy. Don't date him. What's
Speaker 1: to me is this? So this latest girl, Camilla maroone,
Speaker 1: she weirdly her mom I've read this today. Her mom
Speaker 1: dated al Pacino, So something's going on there. But the
Speaker 1: family of star Fuckers, that's funny. But I period, there's
Speaker 1: like a show in there or something. But star Fuckers
Speaker 1: started Shorny Weaver and Jennifer love hewittt Yes, gag. It's
Speaker 1: it was like Heartbreakers with the same cast. Amazing. She
Speaker 1: posted something on her Instagram like a year or two ago,
Speaker 1: a picture of Humphrey Bogart and Lauren bicaal who with
Speaker 1: the caption a love like this now mind you. The
Speaker 1: two of them had a twenty five year age difference.
Speaker 1: Camilla and Leo have a twenty three year age difference,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, ship, like you've been like pilled
Speaker 1: into thinking that like this kind of May December thing
Speaker 1: is like amazing or asked or like good or that
Speaker 1: like classic which whatever, And this is not to say
Speaker 1: and I think everyone's being very clear in the discourse
Speaker 1: whatever of it all that like age differences in these
Speaker 1: relationships are not inherently bad. But the thing that is
Speaker 1: troublesome is that there's a pattern and Leo and maybe
Speaker 1: that does mean something is maybe morally tricky about like
Speaker 1: a man dating a younger woman. But I think and
Speaker 1: Katie with Ashcraft wrote this in Jezebel Our our good
Speaker 1: friend Katie A. She was saying that this is actually
Speaker 1: a good thing because now we can just make fun
Speaker 1: of that model of older men dating younger women or
Speaker 1: who who exploit or who like fall into a pattern
Speaker 1: of exclusively dating younger women at like a very young age,
Speaker 1: where you're like, wait, this is like now you have
Speaker 1: like a pop cultural reference to them and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's just like doing the Leo thing. It's sad, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Leo thing is often things that I find are
Speaker 1: it's just kind of interesting how he does a movie
Speaker 1: and like, you know, it's the Oscars, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's it's the big thing. It's Leo
Speaker 1: the movie Star. And then him when he's not being
Speaker 1: Leo the movie Star is literally in like a bad
Speaker 1: T shirt, a shitty hat, like on a huge yacht,
Speaker 1: like just a two big of a of an expense
Speaker 1: like and and obviously not great for whatever the body
Speaker 1: of water it's in with these young young, young young
Speaker 1: models that are then like completely replaceable. But yet when
Speaker 1: he shows up and he he clocks in and he
Speaker 1: sleeps in a bear or something for like the Oscar,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, god damn, the great movie star. And it
Speaker 1: is sort of like he might be like the last
Speaker 1: one and ben fff, like I think like gets to
Speaker 1: make you know, he he makes a lot of like
Speaker 1: transitions between prestige and trash throughout the years, and people
Speaker 1: seem to accept him back. But it's true, like the
Speaker 1: male movie stars do get treated with a degree of
Speaker 1: like I'll let him do it, which is like, uh,
Speaker 1: we've tossed away so many of these women because they
Speaker 1: like because of whatever, and yeah, their tip popped out,
Speaker 1: they had work done God forbid because of the oppressive patriarchy.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. But like, you know, it just feels
Speaker 1: like it never like I think that Bradley Cooper could
Speaker 1: show up at the Oscars with with poopy coming out
Speaker 1: of his pants and people would be like, well, Mama,
Speaker 1: he did a stars Born. He's a classic movie star
Speaker 1: and he does it all. Got couldn't got covered in poop.
Speaker 1: If God can covered in poop, it better be by
Speaker 1: her own curtains. It would be curtains for Gaga. I
Speaker 1: think that even that would be a bridge too far
Speaker 1: for our lady Gaga. Honey, and me even telling the
Speaker 1: story to the public about my own poop journey, that
Speaker 1: might be it for me. Okay, it might be curtains
Speaker 1: for bo It's fine. I had a good run. Really,
Speaker 1: you have had a good run. You've been able to
Speaker 1: do amazing work I have. I have, Um, what do
Speaker 1: you have anything else to talk about? I have one
Speaker 1: more thing to talk about. I mean, what is the
Speaker 1: topic of it you are going to bring up? I
Speaker 1: was just gonna bring up I'm bringing some negative stories
Speaker 1: to the chat, but this one concerns our former guests
Speaker 1: and another legend, Marion Morris. Yes, I think she is
Speaker 1: really doing it right period period. She's really like taking
Speaker 1: these narratives that are being like foisted upon her and
Speaker 1: she's just like, Nope, I'm gonna like actually win out
Speaker 1: in this way. She Maren is funny, she's a and
Speaker 1: we and we knew this, but Marin's she's got jokes.
Speaker 1: She Marin gets it. And for basically anyone that doesn't
Speaker 1: know out there that's listening any of these readers, she
Speaker 1: basically is just getting like really ripped to shreds by
Speaker 1: like the demons like Tucker Carlson and Fox News because
Speaker 1: she basically called transphobia what it is and said that
Speaker 1: anyone has a place listening to country music at her shows, etcetera,
Speaker 1: because she dared call out someone's transphobia. Is Brittany Alden, Yes,
Speaker 1: Jason's flop wife, just to flop in the clown square.
Speaker 1: She might be nominated next year. Um, but this is
Speaker 1: this is this really made me laugh? Was that? Um? She?
Speaker 1: First of all, Brittany tweeted, Uh, she was the one
Speaker 1: who tweeted like that, I want to thank my parents
Speaker 1: for not changing my gender when I was a tomboy.
Speaker 1: And then I love this, I love this girly life.
Speaker 1: Brown heart emoji, brown heart emogi brown Heart. I think
Speaker 1: I think she's she's part of the poopy club. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I think brown Heart is the title of
Speaker 1: autar one word like brave Heart. And then Marc brown
Speaker 1: Heart like brave Heart. That's the title about. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then mayor and tweeted, um, it's so easy to not
Speaker 1: be scot Bag. And then she says, sell your clippings
Speaker 1: and zip it, Insurrection Barbie. I think that's a really good. Wow,
Speaker 1: Insurrection Barbie, Barbie, sell your clippings and zip it. You
Speaker 1: know what's crazy about insurrection Barbie. People would buy her.
Speaker 1: The insurrectionists would buy her, and they would have Insurrection
Speaker 1: Barby like in their homes. Their kids would be playing
Speaker 1: with Insurrection Barbie. That's where America is at. There's so
Speaker 1: many homes that would buy insurrection Barbirection Barbie, just a
Speaker 1: militant Barbie intent on taking down democracy would fly off
Speaker 1: the shelves. It's gonna be huge this Christmas. An insurrectionist homes.
Speaker 1: You think you think Marry made a mistake. No, I
Speaker 1: think she's bringing Insurrection Barbie is below. I think, um
Speaker 1: it is a funny. I don't know, sketch Lauren. I
Speaker 1: think Insurrection Barbie is kind of kind of hilarious. And
Speaker 1: I would even like if Marion Morris came and cameot
Speaker 1: as Insurrection Barbie. But also that would make her need
Speaker 1: to dress up like an insurrectionist, and who really wants
Speaker 1: to do that? Maybe some of the new cast members
Speaker 1: on of snl UM keep an eye out for um
Speaker 1: that announcement soon. And but anyway, no, I think that
Speaker 1: she's um playing it online and in life and probably
Speaker 1: live on concert because the woman's voice is incredible. She's
Speaker 1: a great performer, and I'm seeing her in October. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, where's she playing the damn Bowl? That'll be
Speaker 1: so good, Maren. I blasted daties Mercedes minutes before we
Speaker 1: started this recording. What a song. I will never stop
Speaker 1: saying it. I just have to say to the bones,
Speaker 1: oh the bones it's about did you see Marin has
Speaker 1: been actually saying she's been posting a little bit about this,
Speaker 1: but she auditioned for Wicked on Broadway. I got a
Speaker 1: call back for Glinda for Alphabet for Alphaba. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that feels good, and I was like, I would buy
Speaker 1: a ticket to this. Define gravity what a song? But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: of course, but I'm saying to define gravity. I meant
Speaker 1: to finish the sentence define gravity by merritt Ala Maren
Speaker 1: would be so so good, it would be incredible. Anything
Speaker 1: else you want to bring up? Mama? What I think
Speaker 1: it's time for? I don't think so high, Okay, Mama,
Speaker 1: I think it's time. Indeed, do you have something? I
Speaker 1: have something weird. I have something kind of weird too.
Speaker 1: I think this is this is one of the weirder
Speaker 1: whacko episodes, and I think that what It's okay. Sometimes
Speaker 1: get a little weird, a little whack o, get in
Speaker 1: touch with your kind of cookie side, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Especially like as we get into fall, it's
Speaker 1: gonna become you know, a little bit darker, a little
Speaker 1: bit colder, Like you can try some things out, like
Speaker 1: in the privacy of your home, like getting a little
Speaker 1: weird and cookie, trying that new hairstyle, putting on that makeup.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like maybe, like you know,
Speaker 1: just like just get a little weird. You know, you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a little weird moment this, I
Speaker 1: might get a little weird this fall, Like, I think
Speaker 1: I might try something different, you know, maybe do a
Speaker 1: little What about a little ear piercing for me? Oh?
Speaker 1: And I think you're going to pierce the ear that
Speaker 1: not many people expect the left ear? Which one is
Speaker 1: the gay ear? The gay ear? I think is the
Speaker 1: right ear? So you think it's kind of queer for
Speaker 1: me to pierce the not gay ear. I finish either ear?
Speaker 1: Question either ear, it's queer. Okay, that's a rule of culture.
Speaker 1: That's what umbers that. That's really either ear, it's queer.
Speaker 1: I have a good I think. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Honey. There's never been a sunscreen that
Speaker 1: won't sing you in the eyes. Why have we had
Speaker 1: shark tank for so many years and no one has
Speaker 1: gone on with the invention. It's sunscreen, but it can
Speaker 1: get in your eye and doesn't sting. For me, this
Speaker 1: is the most obvious invention anyone could possibly think of,
Speaker 1: and yet here we are, in the year of our Lord,
Speaker 1: no one's even thought of this. Yet every sunscreen you
Speaker 1: put on your damn face. And let me tell you
Speaker 1: people readers out there, I hope you're protecting your son
Speaker 1: in these times of great heat, because if you step outside,
Speaker 1: it's like a demon heat. And please be protecting yourself
Speaker 1: with SPF. It's different for everyone. But get some on
Speaker 1: your skin now. If you don't, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Back to your eyes singing and sunscreen sliding sweating down
Speaker 1: into your face. Suddenly you're unable to see. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, and then the pain sets in. It
Speaker 1: is pain I'm like you've ever felt. And it is
Speaker 1: because no one has come with the invention, brought it
Speaker 1: to Barbara brought it to the sharks and said, sharks,
Speaker 1: are you willing to a down with me? No? I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. What a shame. That's the one
Speaker 1: minute that was beautiful. Now what kind of screen are
Speaker 1: you using that would stick you and your like? Are
Speaker 1: you spraying it on? Are you? I'll tell you right
Speaker 1: now that I put Super Group sunscreen on my face.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this? No relationship with there's different
Speaker 1: kinds of supergroops on Supergroup sunscreens, which which one? You know?
Speaker 1: Which one you're using? Is the It's heavy white, so
Speaker 1: I think you can probably look into They make a
Speaker 1: Matt sunscreen and which feels very aproposed. Oh I just
Speaker 1: got it. I just got and that one kind of
Speaker 1: goes on. I'm sorry. I I normally I don't do puns.
Speaker 1: But it's but it's a secret power that you'll reveal
Speaker 1: later in your career, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 1: right now you can still do so much types of comedy.
Speaker 1: But later when when when you go into your pun
Speaker 1: era in like ten years, people are not going to
Speaker 1: see that coming. That would be so cool. Comedians should
Speaker 1: have like eras. More eras are absolutely I'm like, not
Speaker 1: not in like the Chappelle way, like oh he's in
Speaker 1: his like transphobia era. I feel like there should be
Speaker 1: like I'm in my clownary era, I'm in my comedia era,
Speaker 1: I'm in my pun air, you know, like not should
Speaker 1: have more era like like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we need huge, massive reinventions for comedians, we kind
Speaker 1: of do. I want Amy Schumer to come out next
Speaker 1: comedy album with a short blue bob and the theme
Speaker 1: is like deconstruction in space, like very neo futurist, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like That's why I want from
Speaker 1: Schumer next go around, next press cycle. I want Schumer
Speaker 1: to basically do a Julio and a Julio Torres impression. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want lesbian Alley Wong with no hair like Seed O'Connor.
Speaker 1: It's all hair based and which is which is what
Speaker 1: are Let's just be real. Errors are Eras are just hair.
Speaker 1: Arrows are just hair. Especially really culture number ninety two.
Speaker 1: Eras are just like pink has never gone through another
Speaker 1: era either, because our hair has always been the damn
Speaker 1: same blonde pink it's been it's been blonde mostly. It's
Speaker 1: been blonde more than it's been painted. You know when
Speaker 1: you said this is a very interesting gay who's on first?
Speaker 1: Because you were like blonde, and I was like pink, pink,
Speaker 1: and so then you were like blonde. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Pink is blond, blond, pink, pink, blonde, it's
Speaker 1: gay who's on first? It would be a hugely successful
Speaker 1: bit in the vaudeville. And this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We like I want I want fucking like bo Burnham
Speaker 1: to have a vaudeville era. Yeah, this is what I want.
Speaker 1: Okay um I have when that's a little weird. As
Speaker 1: I've said, you keep saying it's so weird and bowen,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you something. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of really weird off and so for your I
Speaker 1: don't think still, honey, to be truly weird, it's gonna
Speaker 1: take a lot. Yeah, because I've seen like turtle swim,
Speaker 1: I've seen like whales give birth weird stuff and it's
Speaker 1: time strucks now, I don't think so, honey. The term
Speaker 1: double fisting sometimes just sometimes it's just holding two drinks.
Speaker 1: It's not like someone you know, taking two drinks to
Speaker 1: the head and that's why they need to hold two
Speaker 1: drinks at the same time. It's also co opting the
Speaker 1: kink community. Hello. Also, unless you're Edward forty hands in it,
Speaker 1: it's not really what you think it is when you go, oh,
Speaker 1: you're double fisting. It's always like anytime someone says, oh,
Speaker 1: you're double fisting, it's it's in that tone of like oh,
Speaker 1: someone's like gotten a haircut. It's it's in that like
Speaker 1: delivery that is bothersome to me. I have not double
Speaker 1: fisted in a while. No one said that to me,
Speaker 1: but his watch and Potomac and then Candice says it
Speaker 1: to Gazelle and I was like, don't do that, Just
Speaker 1: say you're holding two drinks. Sometimes you're holding two drinks
Speaker 1: for any other reason than to second double fisting. This
Speaker 1: is a bad term. It's giving two ten, it's giving
Speaker 1: college for me, and we don't need it in the culture.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I think that something is going
Speaker 1: on here. And as someone that has newly become obsessed
Speaker 1: with therapy, I'm going to therapize you. You are uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with the word fisting. You are you like that I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it shouldn't be used in this context. I
Speaker 1: love that. Examine that because words matter. And that's not
Speaker 1: really an answer to the question why don't you think
Speaker 1: people should be saying double fisting and they should say
Speaker 1: something else, like I'm holding two drinks when it's just
Speaker 1: sort of is it because of fisting the word because
Speaker 1: the term double fisting carries with it this like pizzazz
Speaker 1: and flare. When people use it, they're like bile fisting
Speaker 1: and you're like, don't do that. I'm just holding two drinks.
Speaker 1: It's not don't editorialize me. And how do you how
Speaker 1: when when if someone were to say to you, you're
Speaker 1: double fisting, what's your fear about? How you'd be so fear?
Speaker 1: This is not a fear, I go, it's it's a gripe.
Speaker 1: I go, no, I'm just holding two drinks, sir. So
Speaker 1: you think that double fisting shouldn't exist at all as
Speaker 1: something anyone ever says it? Just I don't know what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to do. Like if someone is if someone
Speaker 1: if someone is Edward forty handsing, which I have not
Speaker 1: seen since college, either I would go, well, that person
Speaker 1: is doing Edward forty hands. You don't what about this?
Speaker 1: Does it? What about this is not clicking? You don't
Speaker 1: think that when someone says to you you're double fisting,
Speaker 1: that you're not taking it as an accusation. Then maybe
Speaker 1: you have an issue to examine on your hands. Hey,
Speaker 1: you're double fisting. I definitely don't have an issue. You're
Speaker 1: being garcel to me right now, to my Erica. By
Speaker 1: the way, can we just talk about how rotten this
Speaker 1: season is? I I'm over the season. This is a
Speaker 1: bad season of h I just have to say, like,
Speaker 1: the first of all, I guess the fact that it's
Speaker 1: all moved online and like off the show. I hate lame,
Speaker 1: and I just think like you obviously need like something
Speaker 1: to change at that point, just because so much of
Speaker 1: the narrative is like not what's actually happening in the show.
Speaker 1: And then every now and then they'll be like an
Speaker 1: iconic moment or one of the one of the women
Speaker 1: does something funny. But like this Diana thing the other
Speaker 1: day with Sutton, Like the way that all those women
Speaker 1: just sat there while Sutton just cried and wept while
Speaker 1: Diana is laughing like a gleefully calling her a cunt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was wild, and that none of them really said
Speaker 1: anything besides Garcela, and I was just like, you can
Speaker 1: just feel it getting ugly dark in a way. And
Speaker 1: I will say that it's not necessarily like when it's
Speaker 1: dark you don't like watching it, but when it becomes
Speaker 1: like dark and also like inactive and not not fun
Speaker 1: static yet static darkness and hearing an Erica Jane's laugh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That little cackle is just nails on a
Speaker 1: fucking chalkboard. It's the worst sound. Here's what I really need.
Speaker 1: I need Crystal to say something to Erica Jane about
Speaker 1: the ear rings, and I need her to not back down,
Speaker 1: like if she's gonna now bring up the fact. But
Speaker 1: but but I need Crystal to do that, or maybe
Speaker 1: it's just not the show for her, but like she
Speaker 1: needs to come hard. If if she's gonna take on
Speaker 1: this Erica Jane plotline about the Seven Earrings, she better
Speaker 1: not back down to get afraid of Erica when Erica
Speaker 1: lashes out, because you can handle her, you dwarf her
Speaker 1: like you have actual money, your husband is great, you
Speaker 1: have a family like like this, don't be scared of Erica.
Speaker 1: Would be scared of Erica. No one should be scared
Speaker 1: of Erica. She's one of the most pitiful people in
Speaker 1: the public. I I mean it, I end, but Crystal too.
Speaker 1: I'm like, none of these people are giving the give.
Speaker 1: We need to be given the give, okay, and we
Speaker 1: love Garcella, but Garcella will often just sit there when
Speaker 1: something happens to go that's not right, and it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: then then I don't know, yeah, of course that's not right.
Speaker 1: And then get up in there. But get in there,
Speaker 1: make something happen. Get up in there. And this is
Speaker 1: why I need Potomac back a sap And unfortunately, like midnights.
Speaker 1: It's not coming out until mid October. And and you
Speaker 1: and I tend to seem to have a disagreement about
Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City season three trailer. I go, uh,
Speaker 1: I love the season two trailer was a masterpiece in trailers.
Speaker 1: I love the season three trailer. I mean when Heather
Speaker 1: revealed her black guy, I was like, absolutely, who did it?
Speaker 1: That's we already have a who done it on our hands.
Speaker 1: And that's because Salt Lake is and will always be,
Speaker 1: first and foremost a crime thriller. It's salt Lake City
Speaker 1: is a I'm I'm the thriller. I just think the
Speaker 1: Black Eye might be a big, big nothing, might be
Speaker 1: a big burger of nothing, as we call it nothing burger.
Speaker 1: All I know is we did see in the footage
Speaker 1: Heather absolutely toss Whitney. Heather and Whitney. That is, if
Speaker 1: that friendship goes, you go, what else is happening? I
Speaker 1: just I will. These are women of great esteem, great respect,
Speaker 1: great beauty, great talent, and great fortune and great trauma fortune.
Speaker 1: They have a great fortune, these women on great fortunes.
Speaker 1: So to see them in conflict is really troubling. It
Speaker 1: says end of days to me. It says it's giving,
Speaker 1: it's giving. End of days to period period. Potomac needs
Speaker 1: to come back. As I've said, it's the best vibes
Speaker 1: of any city. The women look absolutely gorgeous in that photo. Love,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I need these women. I'm actually excited
Speaker 1: for Mia to come back in you know what, let's see.
Speaker 1: I'm not upset about Mia and and Big Daddy either.
Speaker 1: What's it? What's big Daddy whatever? I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what his name is. Um, but Mia gave us
Speaker 1: some iconic moments. And in the last season, like she
Speaker 1: has a big heart, Like I don't just heart she has.
Speaker 1: She said she has a beautiful heart. She has and
Speaker 1: I've I've met your hell and she has a beautiful heart,
Speaker 1: beautiful heart. And like I was a dancer wearing gowns
Speaker 1: at a place that served lops suran sticking lobster. It
Speaker 1: was a five star restaurant. It was a five star restaurant.
Speaker 1: We serve stake a mobster, and I did wear a gown.
Speaker 1: I was not a stripper. Cut to two episodes before
Speaker 1: I was a stripper. Yeah, no, we need to give
Speaker 1: me a give she is, she's a legends funny, funny. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Potomac needs to come back. Okay, cant big feet? She says,
Speaker 1: your big feet, and then they get into a conversation
Speaker 1: about whether or not that's like. But then sometimes, like
Speaker 1: at the reunion, they did, I think, cut to a
Speaker 1: close up on the feet. See, that's what we need.
Speaker 1: We don't need this darkness. We need the question of
Speaker 1: is it okay for a woman to say another woman's
Speaker 1: feet are too big? Discuss this is why Potomac is
Speaker 1: the best. It's funny. These women are funny. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's not also forget Patona Custody. That's probably the darkest
Speaker 1: days on any other franchises. Yes, and but there is
Speaker 1: another dawn. Yeah, there is another time period period. UM.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you before we go about one
Speaker 1: song that I recently listened to, which actually was snubbed
Speaker 1: in the Great Global Songbook, and I wanted to shoot
Speaker 1: it your way just so. This is one of a
Speaker 1: for your consideration from me to you UM as the
Speaker 1: nomination's approach, you know what I mean, right around the corner,
Speaker 1: and we think about UM recognized, recognizing iconography. And here's
Speaker 1: the song stand out by Tevin Campbell from the Goofy
Speaker 1: movie soundtrack. Oh my God, can we just give flowers
Speaker 1: to Tevin Campbell? Yeah? Flowers? Can we talk? Iconic Kevin
Speaker 1: Campbell song standout momad if I got to shut out up,
Speaker 1: amazing voice, Matt Rodgers, You've never sounded better. And what Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm just crying. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make
Speaker 1: you cry. I didn't mean to make you cry. But
Speaker 1: Tevin Campbell was was out here being sounding like the nineties.
Speaker 1: Take me back to a time in place, King, Now
Speaker 1: take me there. And I'm so happy he's come out
Speaker 1: of the closet recently. I'm so happy he's living in
Speaker 1: his true self. He's someone who really was giving the gift.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry my new phrases give the give, which which
Speaker 1: really can apply to so much. And Sarah Sara Sherman
Speaker 1: did kind of help bring this into my lexicon. But
Speaker 1: Tevin was giving the gift since day one, since he
Speaker 1: burst onto the world stage. When he says in the
Speaker 1: in the track, it's a piece of cake? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Also, do you remember a Goofy movie the
Speaker 1: character of um I believe it was Roxanne, the most
Speaker 1: beautiful woman in the world. The most beautiful dog, most
Speaker 1: beautiful dog woman in the world. She said, this is
Speaker 1: a woman. Let me hold my books to my developing chest,
Speaker 1: even more beautiful. Notice my bangs. I'm gonna look even
Speaker 1: more beautiful than Kate Moss noticed my bangs. Just a
Speaker 1: great beauty, a figure of great esteem, respect, beauty, talent.
Speaker 1: She loved to read books. One of the best things
Speaker 1: to know, couldn't be I'm sorry, and now we're fully
Speaker 1: like in the Lea Michelle can't read, sort of bit,
Speaker 1: but I have to say I fully believe she can read.
Speaker 1: I believe that some of the longest books um in print,
Speaker 1: some of the longest books in print. Lea Michelle has
Speaker 1: read Rock Sand Though rock standon Max had just one
Speaker 1: of those romances that you're like, I hope this works out.
Speaker 1: Chemistry together, chemistry are still together, fucking like dogs. M hm,
Speaker 1: rock Stand is a gorgeous dog woman, beautiful beautiful. Well
Speaker 1: that's real culture number seventy seven. Rock Sand, Rock Stand,
Speaker 1: dog Woman, beautiful beautiful. We end every episode with the
Speaker 1: song stand up MoMA, only you see you stand singing
Speaker 1: with me. Gotta listen to it again By