WEBVTT - I Choose..Beverly Hills 90210 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:09.600 You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, Hi, Hi, 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:15.000 it's me Jenny. Welcome to the I Choose Me Podcast. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.080 You are all showing up for our new podcast, and 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.440 I am so grateful. I'm reading all of your reviews 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.520 and your comments and I'm just loving all of it. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.360 This spot is for you, guys, So I want you 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.479 to tell me what you want to hear about from me. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.879 What topic do you want us to delve into. What 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.320 decision have maybe you made that you want to talk about, 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.320 and tell us what you learned from it. Let us know. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.760 I have a question for you. Do you believe in 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:50.760 trusting your gut making decisions based on instinct? This next 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.560 story is an example of when I trusted my gut 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.760 on one of the biggest choices I ever had to 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:05.119 make decision that would alter the trajectory of my life forever. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.320 And I had to make this decision when I was 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.840 only seventeen years old. But first I want to introduce 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.960 you to another member of my team, my life team. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:23.080 Randy James started as a page at ABC, the network ABC, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.319 you know the one, when he was only eighteen years old, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:31.360 and quickly rose through the ranks of the company to 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.720 become the director of casting for the whole network. In 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.600 nineteen eighty six, he started his own talent management company 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:43.640 at the age of twenty nine. He is my longtime manager, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.800 my best friend, my father figure, my discoverer. I call 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.480 him mister Showbiz and you can too. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.480 Hey, Jenny Garth. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.440 Don't ever call me by my full name. That makes 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.480 me feel like I'm in trouble. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:59.960 Look at you with your own podcast. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.080 Are you proud now? 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.560 I possibly be any prouder. This is so cool, This 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:05.520 is so exciting. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:07.800 We're talking about choices, Randy. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.200 I know, I know, we've all made a few. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.120 Good Yep, you chose me, I chose you. That's a 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.240 whole nother story. We'll tell that another time. But today 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.440 I want to talk about the choice to do Beverly 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.840 Hill's line Up two one now, and you were there. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.920 I was there, and I'll bet a lot of people 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:33.520 don't know. But it actually was a choice because you 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.240 had two different shows that were interested in you, that 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.639 wanted you, and you had to make a choice between them. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:41.320 That's right. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.520 It was not an easy choice. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.760 Wow, I forget about that that there was another show 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.280 on the table. It wasn't like it was another offer 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:54.279 on the table. It was just another audition, right, Well. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.000 No, they actually wanted you. So, yes, you were in 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.840 a position where you could have had either show. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.960 At the time, Wow, look at me. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.120 Just to get give a little context for the listener. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.359 When you came out, it was nineteen eighty nine and 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.919 you had done a couple of things. You did one 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.240 episode of Growing Pains. Do you remember that? 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.480 Yes? I do. I remember the line you want to 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:16.800 hear it? 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:18.640 Yeah, I would love to hear it. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:24.200 Sticky, sticky, sticky. And that was it. Sticky, sticky, sticky. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:24.800 That was my line. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.839 You don't remember, you know what. It's amazing, but it 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.760 escaped me momentarily. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.120 There I reminded you. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.720 Then the other thing you did, I don't know if 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.480 you were you'll, well, of course remember this. You did 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.200 a TV movie I think it was for Disney called 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.880 Teen Angel Returns. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.160 Starring Jason Priestley. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.240 How crazy is that? 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.040 That's right, we played in a movie together. I don't 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.040 think we were like love interests or anything. I really 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.000 don't remember at all. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.840 And then you did a short lived series called A 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:01.000 Brand New Life where you played Barbara Eden's daughter and 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.840 By the way, that should be an episode of your podcast. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.280 You should bring Barbara on because she's such an influence 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:07.960 on you. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.600 She has a huge influence on me, Like as an actress, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.080 I want let's Booker Booker Dano. We need her on 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.120 the show. But let's talk about okay. So the shows 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.600 that we were looking at. One was something called Whole 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.360 Street High, right, right. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.719 I think it ended up going on there as Hull High, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:32.000 Hole High, Yes, And that was an NBC pilot. A 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.720 little bit of background. NBC, I believe at the time 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.960 was the number one network. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:37.120 Fuck. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.840 Huge Box was this upstart network that had just come 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.800 on the scene that really not a whole lot of 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:46.440 people were. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.479 Watching, right, It didn't even exist until what nineteen eighty nine. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.120 Right, I mean nine o two one. I was one 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.880 of the first series nine to two one. I ended up, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:01.200 along with The Simpsons, being the one of the shows 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.200 that really launched that network, that got people to start 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.760 watching it. Now. Hull High was the concept of the show. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.400 It was a set in a high school, but there 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:16.640 was a major singing and dancing component, and it was 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.479 directed and the series was going to be directed by 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:25.000 a guy named Kenny Ortega. Which most people today remember 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.440 from High School Musical. He directed the High School Musical. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.040 And all the dancing and all the numbers, all the 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.200 dance was master. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:41.440 Before that, he did all of the choreography for Dirty Dancing, 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.000 for Madonna's videos, for San Elmo's Fire. I mean, he 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:50.279 was a major, major force in that world, the world 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.520 that so the fact that he was a part of 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.120 Hull High and Hull High was going to be on 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:01.920 the number one network was huge. Aran Spelling was at 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.920 that time god going through kind of a lull in 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:10.480 his career. He had been super super successful when he 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.720 was had all the shows on ABC, right, and I. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.799 Knew about all those shows like I watched The Love Vote. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.120 I grew up with Aaron Spelling shows. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:25.120 Charlie's Angels, Dynasty, The Love Boat, Fantasy Island. Now, I 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:30.400 was at ABC in those days and ABC was There 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:35.240 were only three networks and ABC was number three. It 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.360 was doing really, really poorly. They started working with Aaron 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.480 and it went to number one all because of him. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.760 In fact, they used to joke and say that ABC 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:54.400 stood for Aaron's Broadcasting Company. So now Aaron came up 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.400 with this show along with Darren Starr, for Fox, and 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:03.479 so it really was a risk because Aaron wasn't hot 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.040 at that moment. X was this new. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.920 Network nobody knew about. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:12.880 Yeah, nobody knew about. So it really was a risk. 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:18.000 I actually, because of my experience working with Aaron at ABC, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.480 I didn't count this guy out. He was an absolute 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.400 genius and here he had an opportunity to work with 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:32.880 this fledgling television network who was probably really thrilled to 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.880 work with him. And I thought that that possibly could 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.480 be just the right combination. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.880 Yeah, and you sort of guided me in that direction 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:47.720 a little bit, and I remember thinking, Wow, this is 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.680 incredible to be at the sort of fork in a 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.520 road where I get to have two things on the 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.800 table to decide between. And it was a I remember 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.840 being like, I don't know what to do. This is 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.520 it was scary, you know, it's a very big decision. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.080 It is. And there was one other piece of this, 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.800 which is when I first met you. The first time 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:17.920 I saw you, I saw you dancing. That's right, Yeah, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.720 And in Hull High it was all about dance. That's 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.680 why they had Kenny Ortegas. So that was another sort 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.440 of if you're doing the pros and com that was 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.480 another one for a Hull High, So it really was. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.720 Which one they kind of balance each other out. But honestly, 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:41.360 doing the show with Fox and for Aaron Spelling was 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:42.400 a riskier. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:47.200 Move on paper. It absolutely was. There was no question 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.760 about that. And that's why at the end of the day, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.920 it really came down to you having to go with 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.319 your gut on this, because all I can do is 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.840 your manager is say, well, here pros and here are 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:05.880 the cons and here's what could happen. But I've learned 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.679 in this business that it's this is not a business. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.720 It's based on science, you know, or based on statistics. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:19.280 And over the years, I've seen many examples where what 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.240 everybody thought was going to happen didn't happen. I mean, 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:29.920 back in ninety four, there were two shows that were 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.760 set in hospitals that were procedural shows. One was called 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:40.120 Chicago Hope and it was produced by DAVIDY Kelly, who 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.120 was a huge producer at the time, and the other 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:48.600 one was called Er. And at the time, everyone in 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.560 the business thought that Chicago Hope was going to take 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.080 off and be this enormous success and run for you know, 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.040 ten years, and Er, you know, was going to peter out, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.360 not go anywhere now Chicago Hope did Day on the 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.840 air for a few years. But Er became Er and 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.960 gave us George Clooney, Oh, the gift, the gift. The gift. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.400 George Clueney changed George Clooney's career because he had been 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.679 around for a while. He had auditioned for US at 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.559 ABC on all kinds of things, and he'd been working 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.280 here and there. But he made a choice. He went 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.600 on that show and against probably almost everybody in the 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:31.800 business's guests, Er became the juggernaut that it became and 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.520 launched his career in a lot of other people's careers too. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:35.920 So at the end of the day, it had to 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.720 come down to a gut decision that you had to make. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.480 That I had to make. What I was sixteen, seventeen 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:47.120 years old, right, How can sixteen or seventeen year old 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.960 make a gut decision of that magnitude. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.280 Well, you you had input from me, you had input 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.480 you know, other people in your life. But at the 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.000 end of the day, I think that there was probably 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:06.880 probably even if you don't remember, the conscious conversation that 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.120 you had with yourself at the end of the day, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.000 something about this decision had to feel right, and I 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.520 think that's why. I think that's why they call it 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:19.480 a gut decision, because sometimes it's not a conscious, intellectual 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.520 decision that you make, but just a feeling that maybe 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.040 you can't even articulate or explain, you know. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.680 I mean that happens a lot when you make a choice. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.559 Then you just go with your gut, and it's really scary, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.760 but that's like the ultimate decision maker. I think if 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.000 we listen to our guts, listen to you know, that 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.640 little voice inside of us. And that's what I did. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.199 I took all of your advice, and I took all 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.160 of the pros and all of the cons, and I 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:59.800 was just like, I choose Beverly Hills nine or two 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:04.040 on it. Oh that's the show for me. And I 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.000 didn't know why I chose it, but I did. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:16.720 Here we are, I'm definitely happy. Let me ask you 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.720 a question that I don't know if we've ever discussed 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.120 when you went on to Beverly Hills nine O two 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.720 and zero. Because most people in the industry teenagers, a 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.960 lot of them, and this is the case I think 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.199 with every one of your co stars on that show 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.640 started in the industry when they were kids. I think 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.520 all of them worked as kids in the industry, or 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.400 at least you know, had been in the business for 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:39.880 a while. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.280 You're so right, every single one of them. Yeah, Sanna, 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:50.840 jason Ian definitely was, Brian was Gab was Tory what everybody. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.200 And they had all been doing it for a while. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.360 And you had just blown into town basically a year before. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:12:59.959 I had just gotten off the bus. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:05.280 But I'm wondering how that felt. I don't know if 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.520 you've ever heard the expression imposter syndrome, which is a 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.559 phrase that's used with actors in the entertainment industry, but 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.440 I think it can apply to a lot of areas 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.319 where you find yourself in a job where you're there, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.600 but there's a little voice in your head that says, 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.240 what am I doing here? I think all these people 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.800 maybe made a huge mistake. And I'm just wondering if 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.080 you ever had that feeling when you got on this 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.800 show and you looked around and you had done a 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.280 little bit of work, but not much, and you'd only 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.679 been here for a year and you're working with all 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.600 of these people, if you ever felt that. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.800 Way, I mean that's interesting that you should ask that question. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.120 I do remember being at the first read through, the 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.200 first like gathering of the whole cast. We were at 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:59.440 Aaron Spelling's house, and I just remember being out of 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.120 my mind and nervous, like seriously kind of out of 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.520 my body. That was that kind of experience. And yeah, 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.400 I surely felt that then. I didn't know that it 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.120 was called imposter syndrome. I didn't even know what imposter 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:17.360 syndrome was until very recently and someone told me about 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.320 it and I was like, oh, wow, okay, yeah, I 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:24.160 had that yesterday. I literally have that on a daily 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.120 basis something I'm working on. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:32.080 Well, I think doing this podcast, I think hopefully you're 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.000 going to be able to work through your imposter syndrome, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.080 and maybe we do a whole episode just on that, 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:43.280 and we take questions from the audience or experiences that 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.640 some of your fans listeners have had and how they 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.640 maybe can apply the things that you've learned to work 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.520 through that those feelings that they have of not feeling 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.680 that they deserve or have earned where they are, because 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.920 the truth of the matter is, you actually did deserve 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.760 everything that you've gotten. You wouldn't have gotten that job 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.440 if you hadn't gone in there and beaten out a 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:10.640 whole lot of other. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.680 People for it, I guess so, so you. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.120 Did deserve to be there. But then all of us 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.800 have that little voice in our head that says, I 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.240 don't deserve to be here. What have these people done? 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:26.200 This is crazy? And that's something that probably a lot 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:26.840 of people can. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.000 Relate to in their own Absolutely, I mean, that's a 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.720 huge topic. We definitely definitely need to talk about that, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.760 because not only did I struggle with it when I 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.880 was a young girl, I've struggled with it my whole life, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.240 and I struggle with it literally this past weekend, like 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.480 it's something that you have to learn how to control. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.320 But yeah, I definitely had it back then. So I 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:53.920 see how that decision really impacted the overall trajectory of 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:58.320 my entire life. Like that moment was a defining moment 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.720 when I decided to say yes to Beverly Hills nine 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.000 two and oh and I decided to jump into that 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:09.320 cast and go on that ride. You know what a 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.520 profound impact it had on my life. I mean, were 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.400 you scared at all when you see you saw what 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:16.000 was happening? 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:21.320 Yes, because aficionados of nine O two and oh may 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.280 remember that the show was not an instant hit. It 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.880 struggled and Hull High did go on the air. It 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.280 went on for a few episodes. I don't think it 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.360 ran a full season. Was canceled, I think part way through. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.880 But both shows were on the air, and both shows 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.520 were struggling, And it wasn't until the summer summer. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.120 The summer episodes, the bathing. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.360 Why don't you tell the listeners who may not be 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.640 what happened in the summer, Oh my gosh. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.680 The producers were genius. They saw that the show wasn't 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.280 doing well. People we didn't know about it, you know. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.560 And also Fox was a smaller network, so it didn't 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.920 have the like wide release that you would want a 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:12.480 show like that to have, and they decided to while 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:17.199 all the other shows on network television were showing reruns 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.560 because they were taking a break in their production schedules, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:25.080 so they decided to continue shooting throughout the summer and 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.879 play those episodes during the summer months. So when people 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.480 had the option to watch the same old rerun that 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.040 they had watched a million times, or to watch this 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.679 new show about Beverly Hills. I think it started to 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:44.240 grab people's attention, and that's when we got that sort 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.200 of momentum building up. You know, we found our audience. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.040 Isn't that when they introduced the beach Club and they 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:51.600 did all of this. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.440 Yeah, it didn't hurt that we were all in bikinis 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.840 and right, and then the guys are shirtless. Yep, that'll 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.880 get you some ratings. So a good choice on their part, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:03.399 for sure. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:04.359 Yeah. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.320 Absolutely, what if I hadn't made the choice? Can you imagine, like, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.320 I mean, the sky's the limit on that imagination, what 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.080 my life would be like if I hadn't done Beverly 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.320 Hills nine or two or zero? Who knows? 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.960 Well, yeah, because you know, this is such a brutal business. 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.880 And you go back and you look at the cast 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.920 of Hull High and they were all good actors, and 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.880 the young lady that got your role is a good actress. 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.359 But they've gone on and they've all worked here and there, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.680 But I don't think that any of them went on 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.080 to have the kind of career that the cast of 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.840 your show had, or certainly, you know, no one's talking 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.280 about them or those roles thirty years down the road. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.479 So yeah, yeah, you're like, thank you life. I mean, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.720 it's just like a force, you know, Like in life, 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.760 sometimes you don't know you're making choices, but you're making 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.160 some really big ones. And this was one of those 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.960 moments for me, and I could have never never known 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.400 how it would end up. Do you think that there's 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.480 an element of fate for all of us in our choices? 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.600 Like you can measure the pros and the cons all 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.160 you want, when you can write it down and listen 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.040 and talk about them to your shrink or whatever you 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.600 need to do, But there's that element inside all of us, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.640 like you said, that little voice, that gut instinct, call 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.000 it fate if you will do you think, yeah, it 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:25.640 works right? 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.760 And I think the message I think is that maybe 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:36.159 it's important to almost like an exercise. You need to 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.880 train your body to be able to do certain things, 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:40.439 whether you want to be a runner or a swimmer 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.840 or whatever. Maybe there's a process where we have to 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:50.880 train our brains to listen for that instinctual message. And yeah, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.320 you know, you can rack that message up to fate 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.280 or God or the universe or whatever, but the important 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.120 thing is to hear it and not have it drowned 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.160 out by all the other voices in your head, because 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.680 I think statistically, on paper, if you went through those 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.320 two choices that you had, the statistical choice to make 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.959 would have been hull high for all the reasons that 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.720 we discussed. 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.639 And I know for me, when I'm faced with a decision, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.800 especially like a career decision, where you basically say, here 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.760 are all the pros and here all the cons and 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.520 you really do help me break it down and think 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.840 it through. But then at the end of that conversation 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.000 you also say, but it's up to you, and I 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.439 will support you whatever you decide. So you hand it 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:42.120 back to me, and I'm like, oh God, well, scary. 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.560 But the truth is, even if I can't make the 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.160 decision in that moment, I usually will take some time 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:53.800 with it and sit with it and really, like you said, 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:58.040 get quiet and listen to my inner voice, my instinct, 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.479 and then go with that because when I get that 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.760 direct message from the core of who I am, I 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.800 know that's the right decision every time. Even if it's 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.920 the wrong decision, it's the right decision. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.479 You've said before, there been times that you've made the 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.240 wrong decision or the wrong choice in your life, but 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.800 there's also a way of looking at those choices and 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:26.120 recognizing that sometimes you have to look at things from 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.920 the perspective and the luxury of looking at it from 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.000 a year down the road or further. My wife has 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.480 a phrase that she's always used, could be good, could 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.359 be bad. And sometimes in the moment, you don't know 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.000 if whatever is happening to you in the moment is 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.439 good or bad. But you look back at that moment 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.200 six months, a year or more, then you realize, oh wow, 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.960 I didn't realize it at the time. I thought that 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.159 was one of the worst things that ever happened to me. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.400 But if that hadn't happened, that wouldn't have led to this, 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.760 and that wouldn't have led to this exactly. But you 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.680 realize if it wasn't for that at the time quote 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.280 unquote wrong choice, you wouldn't be in this place where 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.440 you are right now, you know, a year or two 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.040 down the road, and. 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:12.959 From where I sit now. When I look back on 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.320 that decision that I made to be on the show, 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.239 I never I don't think I ever came to you 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.480 and said, oh I think I made the wrong decision. 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.399 I think I made the wrong choice because it was 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:30.040 such a great experience. Yeah, even the you know, the good, 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.919 the bad, and the ugly of all of those ten years, 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:34.960 it was the right decision. 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:44.000 Yeah. Well I have another question for you. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.320 Oh I like it when you ask you questions, Randy, 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:47.440 mister Shobiz. Sorry. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.040 When this show took off, it took off in a 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:56.680 way that not many shows, even super successful shows, take off, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:02.600 because it really was a touchstone for young people, for teenagers. 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.399 It spoke to them in a way no other show 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:10.160 had spoken to them before the level of fandom went 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:14.080 from zero to sixty in a very short amount of time. 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.879 You went from just being kind of a normal kid, 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.879