WEBVTT - The Hateful Indoctrination of White Children

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>me your girl, Daniel Moody recording from the home Bunker,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where I feel like I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life because stepping outside of our

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<v Speaker 1>front doors these days seem more dangerous than fucking ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't say that. I say that tongue in

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<v Speaker 1>cheek kind of, but like also really today I engage

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<v Speaker 1>in a conversation with the president of AFT, the American

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<v Speaker 1>Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten, who you have heard on

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<v Speaker 1>this program before, and sometimes I have to like stop

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<v Speaker 1>myself and realize how quickly things have devolved in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for folks who may be new to listening

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I am a former educator. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>master's in early childhood education. I taught in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went into education policy, where I worked

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<v Speaker 1>down the hill, you know, and then worked as a

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<v Speaker 1>lobbyist for you know, several nonprofit organizations and foundations and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think tanks before I found myself full time

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<v Speaker 1>in media. And what I will say is that education

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most important pillars foundations of democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and there has not been a time in our nation's

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<v Speaker 1>history where education hasn't been the battle ground for progress

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. You can look at the integration of

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<v Speaker 1>schools right that took place after Brown versus the Board

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<v Speaker 1>of Education, which I just want folks to wrap your

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<v Speaker 1>mind around the fact that if Brown versus the Board

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<v Speaker 1>of Education is challenged at any time in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the next few years, we will go back to segregated schooling.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the kind of supreme court that we have

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<v Speaker 1>that if we had in nineteen fifty four the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>court that we have now, integration of schools would have

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<v Speaker 1>never taken place. And so when we see the attacks

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<v Speaker 1>happening on schools, on teachers and on administrators for teaching

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, for trying to build empathy and compassion in

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<v Speaker 1>young people by teaching them about people and communities outside

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<v Speaker 1>of their own, we know very well what the plans

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<v Speaker 1>are to continue the hateful indoctrination of white children so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can bear no responsibility and want to change

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<v Speaker 1>nothing because everything is great. Why would you change everything

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<v Speaker 1>if everything is working and as always worked and has

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<v Speaker 1>always been great, you wouldn't. You would remain complacent. The

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<v Speaker 1>status quo would be good enough for you. But you see,

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<v Speaker 1>the more that you know, the more that you were

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<v Speaker 1>challenged about what you have been taught and how it

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<v Speaker 1>has framed your perspectives on the world, the more you

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<v Speaker 1>are activated to change it. But if you remain an ostrich,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remain infantilized by white politicians so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can remain in power, then the status quo stands strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and they double and they triple down on it. So

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<v Speaker 1>in today's conversation with Randy, we talk about her experience

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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend at the sixtieth anniversary of the March

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<v Speaker 1>on Washington, where she sees education has both progressed and

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<v Speaker 1>regressed over the last sixty years. We talk about teachers

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<v Speaker 1>and administrators fleeing the profession because of fascism and authoritarianism

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<v Speaker 1>at the hands of red state governors. Folks, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you have children in our public education CYCE or

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<v Speaker 1>in higher ed, what is happening to this system has

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<v Speaker 1>a great emphasis on whether or not we hold democracy

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<v Speaker 1>against a movement of American fascism led by Republicans. We

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<v Speaker 1>are in perilous times, as I know those of you

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<v Speaker 1>listening to me are well aware of, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>ask Randy, and our conversation is what can people do

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<v Speaker 1>who feel powerless? How do they get involved? And she

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<v Speaker 1>offers up some answers. Coming up next, my conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>the President of the American Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I am very happy to welcome back to wok AF

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<v Speaker 1>Daily the President of the American Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten,

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<v Speaker 1>as we began another school year here in America. Randy,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the sixtieth anniversary of the March on Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wrote a piece reflecting on your speech and

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<v Speaker 1>your time in Washington, d C. Honoring this really important

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<v Speaker 1>march and day in our nation's history. Just give us

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of your mood and your feelings while you

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<v Speaker 1>were there. At the backdrop of it, you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a shooting that took place in Jacksonville, Florida, at

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of a white supremacist that took the lives

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<v Speaker 1>of three black patrons and workers at a general store.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well. First off, Daniel, I'm glad to be

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and I'm glad that you do this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad that you call it what you call

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<v Speaker 2>it in terms of taking back the word woke.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a history teacher. I'm also you know, a union president.

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<v Speaker 2>You think back to what happened in sixty three in

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<v Speaker 2>the march, and then the backlash after the march, and

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<v Speaker 2>think about what happened after the Obama presidency and the

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<v Speaker 2>backlash after that. Think about what happened after Brown versus

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<v Speaker 2>Board and the backlash after that. I think that what

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing is that the enabling, the normalizing, and the

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<v Speaker 2>enabling of hate, combined with ready access to guns, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>to weapons of war, create a really dangerous situation, and

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<v Speaker 2>calling it out is really important. Understanding what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>is really important. But the but just like those kids

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<v Speaker 2>in Jacksonville, how many years ago, after that Saturday of

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<v Speaker 2>Fear that was created, you know, after they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>integrate lunch counters and the KKK created that Saturday of

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<v Speaker 2>Fear of the uh Anville fear or March or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was called of the KKK a riot, and they

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<v Speaker 2>still won. The kids won, they integrated lunch counters. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a commemoration. This was a continuation, not a commemoration.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's so much at stake right now and people

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<v Speaker 2>are awakening to what is at stake. What happened in

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville is a heenous crime of a white supremacist murderer,

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<v Speaker 2>just like what happened in Buffalo was a heenous crime

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<v Speaker 2>of a white supremacist murderer. What those supremacists want, what

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<v Speaker 2>people who enable them want, is to bully and silence

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of us who are fighting for freedom and

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<v Speaker 2>dignity and basic humanity for all, particularly those who have

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<v Speaker 2>been discriminated against quality and freedom. So I would say

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<v Speaker 2>that we have to hold the families as tight as

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<v Speaker 2>we can in the morning of the deaths of those

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<v Speaker 2>innocent souls and fight on and fight on and fight

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<v Speaker 2>on all at the same time. And yes, that fight

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<v Speaker 2>includes the fight for gun safety and getting assault weapons

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<v Speaker 2>off the streets, which America has done before and can

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<v Speaker 2>do again with courage. But that fight is also the

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<v Speaker 2>fight for freedom and the fight against fear, the fight

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<v Speaker 2>for aspiration and the fight against despair, the fight for

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<v Speaker 2>solutions and the fight against smears, And we have to

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<v Speaker 2>do both at the same time. And so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I was devastating and horrible to hear what happened in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 2>As you're leaving the march, but it has to spur

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<v Speaker 2>us on to more action and to not be silent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I want to ask you, both as the

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<v Speaker 1>president and AFT, but also as a former educator yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you know as a president, what does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean right now to you and to teachers of history

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<v Speaker 1>that telling the truth is a crime. What does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean to librarians that they're having to remove books from

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<v Speaker 1>shelves that teach children about empathy and truth and compassion.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain because for those people who don't have

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the school system, who are not as connected,

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<v Speaker 1>but understand that public education connects us all, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not we have kids that are in the system in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment or not, what it means to live in

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<v Speaker 1>this place of oppression, silencing, and fear as a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>a librarian, an administrator in these states.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think what I think you know the answer

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<v Speaker 2>by the way in which you frame the question, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that you know it's terrible, and people are and

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<v Speaker 2>people take great umbrage at it, and it has had

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain effect, the chilling effect that people like

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<v Speaker 2>DeSantis and Abbot want. We see that in polling. But

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<v Speaker 2>what it's not doing is it's not crushing the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of teachers in life variance. What it's starting to do is,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is spoiler alert because I feel pretty optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>that we are going to win. What it's starting to

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<v Speaker 2>do is it's creating activism in a way that we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have for a while, just like the red for

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<v Speaker 2>ed movement around wages a few years ago and conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Teachers want what kids need, and they know that this

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<v Speaker 2>is impairing kids education and hurting kids for the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>And they take and they are really pissed about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the people who and and and it doesn't it

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<v Speaker 2>crosses ideological grounds or or ideal or or ideological lines.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I should say so. In the Panhandle, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, the teachers that had to put tarps cross

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<v Speaker 2>the libraries.

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<v Speaker 1>YEP.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the teachers who teach in the Panhandle

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<v Speaker 2>are Republicans, a lot of them probably voters for DeSantis.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were like, what are you doing. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my library in my classroom that I was using these books.

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<v Speaker 2>I may have use saw these books for five or

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. All of a suddenly you're banning them. Why so,

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<v Speaker 2>what we're seeing in terms of teachers, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing this in terms of the mainstream as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that more and more it is a smaller and

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<v Speaker 2>smaller but very well coordinated and we're very well funded

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<v Speaker 2>group of people who are trying to ban books and

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<v Speaker 2>erase history. And look, I'm not saying that they're not powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>DeSantis is powerful, Abbot is powerful, Huckabee is powerful. They

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<v Speaker 2>also have these, you know, legislators that they have now

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<v Speaker 2>taken control of because of jeremandering. But if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at polling and you look at the reaction, most parents

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<v Speaker 2>and most teachers hate this, and so it's actually activated

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<v Speaker 2>a generation of people to fight it. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>why for us, we have handed out nine million books

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<v Speaker 2>in the last few years. By July of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be ten million. We're working with first book,

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<v Speaker 2>We're working with others. So think about the power of

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<v Speaker 2>a teacher's union working with its members, having these family

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<v Speaker 2>events all throughout America trying to ban books. We are

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<v Speaker 2>distributing books that have diverse titles that kids see themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in and the other thing. And I'm sure that this

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<v Speaker 2>has gotten me in the crosshairs of the right Wing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is what triggered them. Two years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we said to our members, if you teach honest history,

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<v Speaker 2>if you teach history in an authentic way, with authentic sources,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to expand our our legal defense fund, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to represent you, and we're going to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you are not alone. So you have a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of things that are now being used in terms of activating.

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<v Speaker 2>You have unions creating community against banning books and against

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<v Speaker 2>the erasure of children. You have now people like Moms

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<v Speaker 2>Rising and Red Wine and Blue and lots of other

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<v Speaker 2>new groups that have been created that have said enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're starting to see this kind of activism together.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I would say to teachers or to

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<v Speaker 2>librarians who are alone is don't act alone. Let's create

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<v Speaker 2>a community around you. Because the world is too and

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<v Speaker 2>it's too you know, and and and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of haters. So let's create that community and the connectiveness

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<v Speaker 2>around you, and let's fight this together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I want to switch gears for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the rise of COVID that we are seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing lots of headlines about you know, COVID making resurgence,

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<v Speaker 1>not to the extent that it did in prior years,

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<v Speaker 1>but that it's still present. And I saw an article

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<v Speaker 1>about a school that part of their I guess protocol

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<v Speaker 1>now is to keep windows closed because of potential school shootings.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, it's crazy right.

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<v Speaker 1>To keep to keep windows closed. Kids don't get fresh

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<v Speaker 1>air all day because we'd rather treat schools like prisons

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<v Speaker 1>than deal with guns. And I wanted to get your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on a how you think that schools will deal

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, the rise in COVID given the I

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<v Speaker 1>mean extraordinary backlash that we saw, I mean teachers being

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<v Speaker 1>punched and school board meetings going absolutely insane. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, hearkening back to twenty twenty one, but

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that part of protocol in safety is shutting

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<v Speaker 1>windows in places that already lack quality ventilation. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to get your thoughts on both of those pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it's completely surreal because what's happening is instead of

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<v Speaker 2>this is what it says, kids are not a priority.

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<v Speaker 2>Guns are the priority. Kids are not a priority. So

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<v Speaker 2>if it means that to maintain weapons of war culture

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<v Speaker 2>and not take on that issue, that you're going to actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the exact wrong thing that helps not only kids learn,

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<v Speaker 3>But what we've learned is that ventilation is probably the

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<v Speaker 3>number one change you can make.

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<v Speaker 2>Good ventilation for any kind of respiratory illness, for any

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<v Speaker 2>of the climate issues that we've seen this summer, when

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<v Speaker 2>schools are one hundred and five, workplaces one hundred and ten,

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<v Speaker 2>all this you need air conditioning. So good ventilation, really

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<v Speaker 2>good in terms of respiratory illness, or really good in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of climate issues and weather issues. And frankly for

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<v Speaker 2>those of us who are asmatic or really good in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of those kind of issues too. And a desperate

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<v Speaker 2>proportion of our black and brown kids are asthmatic. So

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<v Speaker 2>and I say that as an asthmatic, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so the ventilation that starts with proper air circulation, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have good AC, you know, HVAC systems

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<v Speaker 2>in the school, you've got to open windows and you

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<v Speaker 2>to have a good fan. And so it just says

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<v Speaker 2>that kids are not a priority these and then they

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<v Speaker 2>turn kids and teachers into a pretzel to try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how to deal with all of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>that is the irony of that guns are more important,

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<v Speaker 2>just like during COVID, bars and restaurants were more important

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<v Speaker 2>than opening schools. I love when the extremists start telling

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<v Speaker 2>me all about you know, what happened in Europe. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we and I'm really glad Mehdi Hassan just did this.

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<v Speaker 2>He debunked a lot of the myths. Kids got COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>kids were vectors for COVID. There's lots of people who

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<v Speaker 2>died from COVID. There's lots of kids who were orphan

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<v Speaker 2>because their parents died or grandparents died because of COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>But we from April twenty twenty, we're the first ones

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<v Speaker 2>to put out a report that said we need to

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<v Speaker 2>have schools reopened. They're really important, but we need the

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<v Speaker 2>safety measures. You can't do one without the other. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to do both. And to have American government led

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<v Speaker 2>by Trump that prioritized you know, bars and restaurants rather

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<v Speaker 2>than schools, and then say, look at what happened in Europe. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Europe prioritized schools being opened. And the problem, the dilemma

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<v Speaker 2>right now is that because of all the conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 2>and all of the odjita that happened at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of COVID, and you know, on mass and vaccines and

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<v Speaker 2>all of this. We're not going to have an appropriate

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<v Speaker 2>or proper public health system directing us or guiding us

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<v Speaker 2>about what to do. So this is what I would

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<v Speaker 2>say to people, and this is what we're doing. Fight

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<v Speaker 2>like hell to get good ventilation in a school. That

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<v Speaker 2>is the number one thing that we can do. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that we don't stigmatize people who wear masks

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<v Speaker 2>or who need to wear masks. And let's do and

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<v Speaker 2>try to figure out the other mitigating factors that we need,

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<v Speaker 2>because COVID is still a respiratory illness, and we need

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure both COVID rsv all of these respiratory illnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to make sure that we are giving people

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<v Speaker 2>the best guidance for how to protect their health and safety,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it be kids, whether it be teachers, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be kids families or teachers' families.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question for you, Randy is this. You know, schools

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<v Speaker 1>like we started out at the top, have always been

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<v Speaker 1>on the front lines for social justice in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>They have always been a battleground and for people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to get involved, for people who see their school

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<v Speaker 1>boards being taken over, for people who see their teachers

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<v Speaker 1>fleeing because they no longer want to teach. What can

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<v Speaker 1>regular people who are not necessarily a part of AFT,

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<v Speaker 1>what can they do to support their public schools, their communities,

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<v Speaker 1>their administrators and teachers and students.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would just say there's one there's one recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>I would make, and I want to kind of link

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<v Speaker 2>it to our new campaign, which is just get involved

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<v Speaker 2>in whatever way you can get involved. You know, lots

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<v Speaker 2>of schools have you know, some open something day night

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<v Speaker 2>for community that welcomes community in. Be involved in a

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<v Speaker 2>local school, do some tutoring, do some reading with kids,

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<v Speaker 2>do something that gets involved in the soul of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the most important thing we can do right now

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<v Speaker 2>is connection and community. That is the most important antidote

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<v Speaker 2>to this hate and division and fear and crossing ideological

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<v Speaker 2>lines and doing the things that really kind of lift

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<v Speaker 2>up communities and lift up kids, and it becomes infectious

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<v Speaker 2>that people then start talking to each other. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter if they're Republican or Democrat or independent. Most people

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<v Speaker 2>still in America want basic decency and basic humanity. So

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<v Speaker 2>what we've tried to do, and this may sound counter productive,

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<v Speaker 2>counter intuitive, is that as Okay, we're fighting the fights

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<v Speaker 2>as they ban books, we're giving books out. As I

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<v Speaker 2>said before, we're fighting to make sure that people can

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<v Speaker 2>teach honest history. But what we're also trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>is deal with the issues of loneliness, learning losses, reading literacy,

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<v Speaker 2>and bringing together really kind of lifting up solutions for

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<v Speaker 2>the problems of families and kids have, for the problems

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<v Speaker 2>that we see all the time, and really trying to

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<v Speaker 2>lift this up. So this whole year we're doing a campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and how do you deal with loneliness? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>wrap services around schools, and let's together fight these social

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 2>media companies who could in a day deal with and

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<v Speaker 2>change the algorithm and change and they could actually emphasize

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>children's health and safety as opposed to making money, and

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>they'd still make a lot of money. So parents and

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>teachers together are working on telling and pressuring social media

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<v Speaker 2>companies to change their algorithms. We're working on wrapping services

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<v Speaker 2>around school. We're actually working to make experience or learning

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<v Speaker 2>the norm career tech ed, giving kids lots of different options,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>particularly as this economy creates more and more new jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Why aren't we doing that? Stop with the testing, testing, testing,

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<v Speaker 2>let's actually work with our hands and make schooling fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And then let's really help teachers help kids how to

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<v Speaker 2>learn to read, so kids have books that they want

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<v Speaker 2>to read. But also what are the tools of the

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<v Speaker 2>trade and doing things like that. So we're really trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get into what are the solutions that transcend ideology.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the things that we can do together as

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<v Speaker 2>a community, because once we do that, these extremists only

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<v Speaker 2>are effective when they can create anger and fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let's create love and engagement around schools dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with the issues that people really care about.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, Randy, every time that I speak to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I say that you're doing the Lord's work and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your leadership and your voice every time that we

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to speak. Thank you for making time

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<v Speaker 1>to join wokay ass.

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<v Speaker 2>And back at you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today, dear friends, on woke

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<v Speaker 1>a f as always. Power to the people and to

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<v Speaker 1>all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.