WEBVTT - IRS Will Survive: Studio 54

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth Zarn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that you decided to grace this with

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<v Speaker 1>your presence.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Claude.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to do the last four shows all by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I saw the sock It's kind of cool, though.

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<v Speaker 2>You must have done a good job. Was about sending

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<v Speaker 2>me emails with photos of the sockbuck the show?

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool. It was really cool. Dirty socks. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Listen, buddy, you know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I do you know when you know

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<v Speaker 2>that you would be friends with the celebrity?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right here had that feeling. There are two that I

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<v Speaker 2>know what I would be friends with. They're both gone,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't be friends with them. But yeah, most

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<v Speaker 2>of the celebrities I think I could be, like have

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<v Speaker 2>an affinity for a friendship with are all gone. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is that? What does that say? Do I not

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<v Speaker 2>fit in these times? Anyway? Both of them loved each other,

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<v Speaker 2>but the funny thing is is neither one of them

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<v Speaker 2>could understand each other. They're two of my favorite people ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Marvin and Toshiro Maffuni. Wait, so this story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the actor Marvin, right, yeah, and the actor to Shiro Maffuoni.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like best friends. But this is a story

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<v Speaker 2>we have from Betty Marvin, obviously Lee Marvin's wife. She

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<v Speaker 2>says the story and I quote Lee and I always

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<v Speaker 2>from the beginning would see Japanese films. He'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>Shiro Maffuoni so much. He used to call him on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. Couldn't understand a word of Japanese BUFFOONI spoke

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<v Speaker 2>no English. They'd have these long conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>About what wait, isn't that the best?

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<v Speaker 2>Just sitting there drunk on the phone because they were

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<v Speaker 2>both big drinkers, right, so I'd be billing about his

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<v Speaker 2>nighttime phone calls they're for at least one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a morning phone call for the other because the

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<v Speaker 2>time difference. But they're drunk sitting there on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was saying that to John borhim the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, love me, what are you doing? We was just talking?

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<v Speaker 2>So how great is that two people have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with another person who doesn't speak their language or my people?

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<v Speaker 2>That is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous too, right, But you know what else is ridiculus?

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<v Speaker 1>No keeping perfect criming records.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, this is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd

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<v Speaker 1>and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. It is always ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>Nightclubs zaren, Yes, one of my favorite places. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like to go to night clubs?

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<v Speaker 2>I used to? Yeah, I mean I did. I like

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<v Speaker 2>really more like jazz clubs. Nightclubs are going to have

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<v Speaker 2>like a comic. I don't want, like a burlesque.

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<v Speaker 1>Show people snap and appreciation of things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but like the old school and nightclubs like we're

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<v Speaker 2>like a Dean Martin where you're going to see a show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to, like you know, see

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<v Speaker 2>someone like you know, reading their death comedy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I like a nightclub, like to go dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Cat of nightclub, like a dance club, a dance area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in this dancery like dancer dancery. So that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. Yeah, I love dancery. You do all freak

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<v Speaker 2>of freaka floor I do not really you don't like dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>I like dancing. It's not like like nightclub dance.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you like go with your friends and just

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<v Speaker 2>like dance with your friends, you don't have to dance

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<v Speaker 2>with strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a long time ago. Sarah TACIONI a goddess among humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Great great persons.

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<v Speaker 1>She and I used to go to two different like

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<v Speaker 1>dance nights in the city. One was at the cat

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<v Speaker 1>club called sixteen on Sunday night. Sure I never went,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know it was like all rock and roll whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was like sort of a similar one.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the old Covered Wagon. Oh yeah, Bordello Night

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing music, and so we would go to that

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of google walk around and you know, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people and get down. But like that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't think of myself as a nightclub

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<v Speaker 1>disco person.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see how you might not see that because

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<v Speaker 2>it you also like to go to bed early.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day it gets earlier than earlier, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>The big dog, let's talk about nightclubs. Let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Back on the big dog of all nightclubs

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<v Speaker 1>has to be Studio fifty four in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. The legendary Kramela Crown, the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Mountain City, the Big Potato. Yes, Studio fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four relatively short lived.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the first I never got to go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the First Iteration opened in nineteen seventy seven. I was

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight years old and I was the deputy mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of New York City. Huh No, it was I'm just kiddings.

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<v Speaker 2>Are now You're still in Minieapolis at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>So that First Iteration, right, thirteen seventy seven, that closed

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's like the disco era, wor Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It burned out, it did not fade away. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's set the stage for you. Nineteen seventy seven. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you told us recently you're punk broke. That was how

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<v Speaker 1>That was the year that punk ro was sex pistoles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a very avant garde music scene. So was disco,

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<v Speaker 1>totally dance music. It was played in disco texts. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a French phenomenon. Yeah, I love a good

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<v Speaker 1>disco tech. The backstory on that, when my brother opened

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<v Speaker 1>his bar, we were at a family function and we

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<v Speaker 1>saw our like second cousin, like our dad's cousin, who's

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy like New York socialite, eccentric. Yes, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was an older, older gap woman of a certain age,

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<v Speaker 1>very certainly like getting up there and my brothers, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>opening this bar. And she turns to him with her

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<v Speaker 1>like her vivid red lipstick and dark black hair, says,

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<v Speaker 1>I love a good disco tech. So that's what we call.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is like clearly not the seventies or the

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<v Speaker 2>eighties when this is oh no, this was not.

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<v Speaker 1>At all so but she loved a good disco tech.

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<v Speaker 1>The French love a good disco tech. That phenomenon of

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<v Speaker 1>the disco tech came from France to the States in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty and it was placed in New York called.

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<v Speaker 2>La Club Club that sounds like a place.

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<v Speaker 1>You go Manhattan. Of course, Studio fifty four, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>was the big dog when it came to disco nightclubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of drugs and hedonism and like just letting go

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<v Speaker 1>into the buget all my favorite things, oh totally lights,

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<v Speaker 1>loud music, DJs, and dance. Expressing yourself through dance, telling stories,

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<v Speaker 1>standing in your truth through dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking through the language of your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Physical communications through dance. That was the point. So people

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<v Speaker 1>they showed off their moves, which tended to be like

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<v Speaker 1>really smooth and saucy, a little six sexy, very sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>very seat. And there was the fashion. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of it. There's like polyester for days.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen Saturday Night few.

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<v Speaker 1>So glamorous, spend a lot of time on my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>like flowy yet like skimpy dresses made to show off

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<v Speaker 1>the moves, shiny suits, Saturday Night fever with like tight

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<v Speaker 1>flared pin open collars. Yeah, his in hers high heels, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, yes, right, chunky high.

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<v Speaker 1>Heels, yes, so much glitter, gold, lemm a cost satins, yeah, gold, jewelry,

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<v Speaker 1>body paint, dress, body paint, gold body paints. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like that became huge. It was and peak hockey

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<v Speaker 1>and outlandish and early punk guards totally art scene type.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing and going against the mood of the time or

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<v Speaker 2>the mainstream, like what was going on at the time

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<v Speaker 2>in terms.

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<v Speaker 1>Of esthetic, right. And then there were drugs of course, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>always the drugs avant garde. Yeah, so that was right

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<v Speaker 1>up there in importance with the music. In the clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's like a kind of a mix. There

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<v Speaker 2>are three angles of the triangle.

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<v Speaker 1>There were three main drugs common in disco text like

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<v Speaker 1>adare council, Yes you do. So there's the cocaine. Yes, cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that is. You know it speeds. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you think you're also makes you feel you well,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you think that your hair brained ideas are

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<v Speaker 1>really clever, brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Poppers, Yes, so you inhale the vapors of break it

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<v Speaker 1>open and go, Yeah, exactly like h of the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous and popular drug gives you a very short

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<v Speaker 1>lived for it totally. And then quailudes the down lids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those discos because they got you all loose and wobbly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I figured they're taking them afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>They called them disco biscuits.

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<v Speaker 2>Biscuits, and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Made sure they made your legs wobbly, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>felt jubbly and it felt amazing interesting, gets you right

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<v Speaker 1>in the Joe blues. So all of the aforementioned elements

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<v Speaker 1>were present at Studio fifty four better believe. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with the opening of the club. It actually starts

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy six. There's this German by centennial picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. Every one of their stars and Stripes

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<v Speaker 1>tall ships in the New York. Then a German male

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<v Speaker 1>model named Uva Harden, Uva Harden, Uva Harden Wow, which

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<v Speaker 1>like right, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like your eggs?

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<v Speaker 1>Harden surrounded by like Uncle Sam the Stars and Stripes Centennial.

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<v Speaker 1>Un Hey, he wanted to open a nightclub in New

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<v Speaker 1>York called Studio just play a studio like the club.

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<v Speaker 1>So he and this Israeli dude, Joram Polani, they signed

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<v Speaker 1>on to take over the old CBS Studio fifty two, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And since that was on the recording space, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>a big auditorium.

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<v Speaker 2>The radio place that they would do shows and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And have like audiences and orchestras. And since it was

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<v Speaker 1>on fifty fourth Street, they decided to call it Studio

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four. And so Harden and Polani they formed a

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<v Speaker 1>corporation for ownership of the place. But for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get a liquor license. They needed more cash too,

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<v Speaker 1>so they sold almost all of their corporate stock to

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<v Speaker 1>the operators of the Marlborough Gallery, which was just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So with that cash on hand, Harden then he meets

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<v Speaker 1>with these two entrepreneurs, Steve Rubel and Ian Schrager, I

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<v Speaker 1>know those names, you know those names. They agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>operate the club for them and then delays though continued

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<v Speaker 1>to mount Harden and Polani they left their own project.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, I guess this isn't going to work. Schreger

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<v Speaker 1>and Rubel they took over and they're like the publicity guys, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they know how to work things. So November of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six, Billboard magazine said that they were the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who planned to open the nightclub called Studio fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>They spent four hundred thousand dollars to get the place

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<v Speaker 1>disco ready. So they were going from this old studio

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<v Speaker 1>to a nightclub.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a great expression being disco ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Some disco ready. And so they had to build a

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<v Speaker 1>dance floor, a balcony, a disco booth like, putting in mirrors,

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<v Speaker 1>light bars, floating vinyl platforms.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The lighting system required three people to run it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was that, yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You're running like track. The lights were going, they're sweeping

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<v Speaker 2>up and down the music.

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<v Speaker 1>They could fill the place with fog, dump a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of confetti. Whoa tailor it all over the Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>was seating for two hundred and fifty people in the

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<v Speaker 1>orchestra area, and the balcony held five hundred seats. And

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<v Speaker 1>also the balcony was covered in rubber so that it

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<v Speaker 1>could be hosed down at the end of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Make of that which you build, So either way the

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<v Speaker 1>place was bathhouse. Yeah, pretty much. There was a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>by forty foot cyclorama on the ceiling, the project images

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<v Speaker 1>of galaxy volcanoes, sunrise, sunset, and then they had this

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of logo, this like icon for the nightclub

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<v Speaker 1>that was a giant moon with a spoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and so for on supporting cocaine. But I like

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<v Speaker 2>the branding, the aesthetic.

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<v Speaker 1>For the opening, the guys sent out eight thousand invitations.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the occupant has eight thousand friends. I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>occupancy was twenty five hundred. And they also crafted a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like an a list, and these were people

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<v Speaker 1>who got specially tailored phone calls and on opening night,

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand people share that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, half of the thousand people. And you know how

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<v Speaker 1>nightclub culture puts the emphasis on like night right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right there in the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get there early.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I tried starting a day club. It did not go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you imagine it's so bright here, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you don't show up right when it opens late. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know who was first in line at that opening night?

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<v Speaker 1>He got there bright and early.

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<v Speaker 2>Dum. What's the guy uh in the the Police Academy movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Gutenberg Guenberg? Steve Gutenberg, very very close. It's your boy,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and his first wife Ivanna get out?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you for real?

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't invited, They just tag They tagged along with

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<v Speaker 1>some friends who were. They were like at dinner with

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<v Speaker 1>the socialite. She's like, are you going to Studio fifty four?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like what's that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Come, you know, just come with and so they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it says ten o'clock is when it opens. So they

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<v Speaker 1>knock on the doorlock only people outside. No one answers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they stood there for fifteen minutes waiting, no one

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<v Speaker 1>in line, just them, and then they're just about to

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<v Speaker 1>leave and the door opens. The staff is like completely

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<v Speaker 1>confused as to why anyone would be there that early,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, it technically opens at ten, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one there. So they go in and they wander

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<v Speaker 1>around the place is empty, and they're just so clueless.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't until about midnight that the crowd starts

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<v Speaker 1>to form outside. I know if Trump was still up

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<v Speaker 1>in there by the time the crowd showed up. A

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<v Speaker 1>bus boy named Richie no Tar told the BBC years later, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>no one remembered him being there the first night. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a non entity. He was never on the dance floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't imagine him dancing. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>he's known for dancing now, but I couldn't imagine it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he did eventually become a regular and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>insert himself, like into any semblance of any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>New York society established or friend. It makes sense he's

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been shhorn for a while, right, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's a later connection you'll see anyway, the opening,

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<v Speaker 1>so traffic stopped on fifty fourth Street. Really so many

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<v Speaker 1>people were lined up to get in. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who were stuck in traffic trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the club and just couldn't get there, Frank Sinatra sor.

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<v Speaker 2>My man Blue Eyes himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like Warren Batty.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. Warren Batty and actually Henry Winkler.

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<v Speaker 1>They both got to the door, but they didn't get in.

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<v Speaker 1>What they could they didn't get in. Warren Batty didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get in, and the Fonds.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that he's like a Yale actor when he's

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<v Speaker 2>not wearing the jacket, but I mean, Warren Baty's Warren

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<v Speaker 2>Baty out all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He let Warren Bady in, Margot Hemingway and.

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<v Speaker 2>Share, Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Loving designers, I'm guessing yes, Dolly Parton, Andy Warhol, Robin

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<v Speaker 1>Leach Kissinger, I figured inside. Robin Leach, later host of

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<v Speaker 1>Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. He was a correspondent

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<v Speaker 1>for CNN, and he brought a date. Date was Brookshields,

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<v Speaker 1>who happened to be eleven years old at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really hoping, you're gonna say, like Grace Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was waiting for like a fun well.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of weeks after the opening, Halston calls the

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<v Speaker 1>club and like, things have been kind of slow after

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<v Speaker 1>it opened, but he wanted to have Bianca Jagger's birthday parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, on.

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<v Speaker 1>A Monday night, and they're like, that's not really a

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<v Speaker 1>big club night. Like these are the coolest people wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to have a super cool party, so they jump into

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<v Speaker 1>action and it was it was exclusive. It was not

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<v Speaker 1>the four thousand like.

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<v Speaker 2>The opening Jagger's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Only one hundred and fifty people were invited or allowed in,

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<v Speaker 1>and the place was filled with white balloons. They went

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<v Speaker 1>out and they got like as many white balloons as

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<v Speaker 1>they could, And as Ian Schrager told Vanity Fair decades later, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Halston only had about one hundred and fifty people, the

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<v Speaker 1>best people from Barishtakov to Jacqueline Bissett. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>petty late seventies of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I like how when he goes to pick two

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<v Speaker 2>people they have the same letter their last name, from

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<v Speaker 2>Barishakov to Basset.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone his last name started with b Zarin. Were you there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was actually an Angola.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that makes sense. The prison, according to Rolling Stone,

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<v Speaker 1>quote one of the bartenders donned a diaper and popped

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<v Speaker 1>out of a cake. But the highlight of the evening

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<v Speaker 1>occurred around midnight, when a white steed was let out

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<v Speaker 1>from behind a stage curtain by a nude couple slathered

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<v Speaker 1>in shimmering paint and sparkles. The birthday girl took the

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<v Speaker 1>place of honor astride the horse, which trotted across the

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<v Speaker 1>dance floor while the camera's greedily snapped seriously. So that

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<v Speaker 1>became this iconic moment of glamour and excess for the

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<v Speaker 1>club and the disco. Grazia magazine described the club as such,

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<v Speaker 1>quote Studio fifty four was a phantasmagorical dreamscape, teetering always

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<v Speaker 1>between a dream come true and a nightmare. Throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>course of any given evening, A giant anthropomorphized crescent moon

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<v Speaker 1>with a coke spoon pressed to its nose and eyes

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<v Speaker 1>flashing red, hovered over the room like a Peruvian flake

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<v Speaker 1>dayusic Machinah wow, it's like an elevated Stefan sketch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So getting in wasn't easy, as I've said, apparently just

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<v Speaker 1>getting in at all was a status symbol. It usually

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<v Speaker 1>was like seven or eight bucks to get in. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can pay for this annual membership and exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>discounted tickets. Tickets will cost more on the weekends and

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<v Speaker 1>then like even more on nights when there were performances.

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<v Speaker 2>Were they like picking do you know if they were

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<v Speaker 2>picking people like by your fashion, like they're standing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get to so. Andy Warhol

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<v Speaker 1>famously said, quote, the key of the success of Studio

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four is that it's a dictatorship at the door

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<v Speaker 1>and a democracy on the dance floor. So see Rubelle,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the dictator. He would like pull this step stool

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<v Speaker 1>outside and you'd stand on it and you'd pick people

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<v Speaker 1>out of the crowd. Totally subjective, like you know if

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<v Speaker 1>if you had the vibe, you go in and otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry mister.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so like this doorman Mark Bennechy told the

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment quote, we had the kid who worked at McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>next to some movie star or some superstar model, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they were dressed in a festive way, or they were interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>high energy, danced well or socialite, celebrity model. You had

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<v Speaker 1>to bring something to the table interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So I imagine there's actually a lot of good dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, amazing dancing. Amazing dance. Now let's think about that dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a break, listen to some have some disco biscuits,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we get back, we're gonna go right back

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<v Speaker 1>into the club. Zara, I'm telling you, why slow you down?

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<v Speaker 1>The disco biscuits. You'll sound like me. What did I take?

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<v Speaker 1>You took the old?

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<v Speaker 2>Is something under the sink?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, that's our keeper's friend. Okay, So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how hard it is to get into the club.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people they didn't give up easily, like they would

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<v Speaker 1>try new outfits, switch up their hairstyle, and go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Actress Jade Barrymore, mother of Drew, who first went to

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<v Speaker 1>the club at age four, but she was at the

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<v Speaker 1>later iteration of the club when she was eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>a coke user. She was a regular at that club. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>said Jade, the mom said of the crazy desire to

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<v Speaker 1>get in quote people were waiting in lines with the

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<v Speaker 1>most fantastic costumes on, each one trying to outdo the

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<v Speaker 1>other one so they could be pointed to and get in.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, meanwhile, you got your kid there, Okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have fun getting dressed for one year.

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<v Speaker 1>At Halloween, two women they were inspired by the Bianca

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<v Speaker 1>Jagger things sitting on a horse. They rented a horse

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<v Speaker 1>and they rode up to the doors in it. They

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<v Speaker 1>were nude. Yeah, the doorman let the horse in but

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<v Speaker 1>made them stay outside. A lot of their hitters didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Aside from Henry Winkler, there are two good examples.

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<v Speaker 1>One time the President of Cyprus was turned He was

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<v Speaker 1>turned away because the doorman misunderstood him and thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was the President of Cypress Hills Cemetery presidents brothers, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big difference. Another time, one of Saudi, the

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<v Speaker 1>King Khalid, one of his sons, was turned away, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the Saudi embassy in the US wrote a letter

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<v Speaker 1>to the club and said, please do not reject the

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<v Speaker 1>prince again.

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<v Speaker 2>You're hurting his feelings. I have ah, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to buy the colr.

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<v Speaker 1>So some people got mad and actually like shot at

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<v Speaker 1>the club from outside. Yeah, but and when they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get entry. Yeah. But others they bangers. Really do you

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<v Speaker 1>know that band's chic with mel Rogers. So he and

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<v Speaker 1>his bandmate Bernard Edwards, they're trying to get into Studio

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four one night and not just like they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>just looking to dance.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was New Year's Eve nineteen seventy seven. Nile Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>told sound on sound quote, we were invited to meet

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<v Speaker 1>with Grace Jones at studio. She's coming. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>interview us about recording her next album. At that time,

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<v Speaker 1>our music was fairly popular. Dance Dance Dance was a

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<v Speaker 1>big hit, but Grace Jones didn't leave our name at

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<v Speaker 1>the door, and the doorman wouldn't let us in. We

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<v Speaker 1>stood there as long as we could take it until

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<v Speaker 1>our feet were finally just way too cold. We were

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<v Speaker 1>really totally dejected. We felt horrible. So they go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Nile's apartment. Quote We grabbed a couple of bottles

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<v Speaker 1>of champagne from the corner liquor store, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>went back to my place, plugged in our instruments and

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<v Speaker 1>started jamming. We were just yelling obscenities. Studio fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>come go off, those scumbags them, and we were laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>We were entertaining the hell out of ourselves. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a blast, and finally it hit Bernard. He said, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're playing sounds really good. They had this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>song that they'd written called GoF, but that wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>them on the radio, so they changed the title and

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics to Freak Off and then to the better sounding

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<v Speaker 1>freak Out a freak Out, so they released as freak

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<v Speaker 1>in September of nineteen seventy eight. It was their first

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<v Speaker 1>number one, biggest hit gone. And so you have like

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<v Speaker 1>all these people, these celebrities we've talked about, but there

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>are regular people there too, and they just wanted to dance, Saren.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to be interesting or beautiful to get in.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The club was known mostly though for celebrities, so you

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<v Speaker 1>had like the regular folks, but it was just everything

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<v Speaker 1>was about the celebs. Among those who went, John Belushi,

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<v Speaker 1>David Bowie, Elton, John, Jackie Kennedy, On Nasais, Wow, earth

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a kid of course, Leonard Bernstein, Yes, party Share, Salmond

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>or Dolly of course, Jackson, you're Pal, Rick James, Robin Williams,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Liz Taylor, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all these kids, Bella a, whoa, that's just progressive.

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, Sylvester Stillo, Tina Turner, Rick Flair, whoa, Roy Cohen,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Alvin Klein, oh Wowler, John Lennon, Truman, Capoti, al Pacino,

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Tom Ford and even Betty Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>Betty and Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was Truman being like kind of bitchy

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting there studio amazing. There's also disco Sally She was

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a seventy seven year old widow who was a regular

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>dancer there. She's a great dancer and everyone loved her.

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh yeah, Alec Baldwin was there, but it

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>was because he worked as a waiter. Really yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever wear the diaper?

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>He always just wore he wore a diaper. He's still

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to this day. Where's a diaper? The antics were insane.

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>So one New Year's Even, event planner for the club

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>brought in four tons of glitter. Oh no, for the

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>guests to dance on.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, are they still getting the glitter out of

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>people's outfit?

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Ian Schrager said, quote, you felt like you were standing

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>on stardust. People got the glitter in their hair and

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>their socks. You would see it in people's homes six

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>months later and you knew they'd been at Studio fifty

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>four on New Year's Is.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 2>There glitter in this cocaine? Were you a Studio fifty

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 2>four on New Year's Well?

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And again, okay, so the cocaine, Like you can imagine

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>when you get drugs and glamour and late nights in

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 1>the hospitality industry, there's hanky business. Yeahan think So remember

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>how the initial opening of the club that was delayed

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>due to no liquor license huh, Well, they didn't get it.

0:25:58.640 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 2>They never got it.

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>No, every day they kept applying for a caterers permit,

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like a one day caterers every single day, every single day,

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously exploiting the law.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>And they just kept Yeah, they sent a guy down

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 2>the office nine in the morning and they're.

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Like, this isn't really like a wedding reception or like,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, a family reunion. That you're like, fine. They

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>also they didn't have a certificate of occupancy and they

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>also didn't have a public assembly license.

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh so wow.

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so since they turned a lot of people away

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and bruised a lot of egos, it comes as no

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>surprise that someone tipped off the authorities about their lack

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of paperwork.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>The fire codes are being violated.

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>So nineteen seventy seven, the New York State Liquor Authority

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>rated the club for selling liquor without a license. No worries.

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>The club still open that night and they just serve fruit,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 1>juice and soda instead of liquor.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Give it time, it'll turn into rugs.

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>They're like, we've got a bag of kludes here.

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>No one really wants maybe some champagne.

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess they kept serving non alcoholic drinks until the

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>New York Supreme Court ordered the Liquor Authority to grant

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>them a liquor license, and the authorities chairman complied but

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>objected to it and said that the judge was swayed

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>by this Studio fifty four's fancy clientele. So Schrager he

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>also applied for a cabaret license from the New York

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>City Department of Consumer Affairs.

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I think Jackie Oo got on the phone and she's like, look, I.

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Have to be there, and I need a good gin

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>gimblet if I'm going to be sitting there. So the

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>cabaret license that allows you to run an establishment with

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 1>booze and with entertainment, and so they tried to get

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>one and it was stalled out for like a year.

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And New York has really weird cabaret license.

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>They're an arcane and they actually kind of powerful, and they.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Were used for a very long time to manipulate and

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like redline and that kind of stuff.

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't try to be a jazz musician in the sixties

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>in New York.

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>So they stalled it out, went on for more than

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of the year. But part of it wasn't really intentional

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>because the city at the time only had three cabaret inspectors,

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 1>so there's this huge existing log jam. They can't be everywhere,

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and people generally didn't get too worked up about it because,

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like the fine was like twenty bucks, so they're like,

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>find me, who cares. When they asked about it, though,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like the press asked, the Department of Consumer Affairs said

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>that the application wasn't approved because of fire code violations.

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course, so then you know, reporters go to the

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>fire department, which once they're like, I can't talk about it, okay, whatever.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't just the city and State of New

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>York on their case. August seventy eight, the American Society

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of Composers, Authors and Publishers ascat OH sued Rubel and Schrager.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>They said that the guys hadn't paid licensing fees for

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.719
<v Speaker 1>six performances that ASKAP had staged at Studio fifty four

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the year. The club went ahead, They're like, fine,

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll get our askab license and they took care of that.

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But then the National Labor Relations Board came calling some

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>workers said that they were unfair labor practices. Basically, the

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>club was high profile, irritated a lot of people, so

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>they became a target. But then the real trouble began.

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>What's the real Steve Rubell, he was profiled in New

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>York Magazine in nineteen seventy seven the writer Dan Dorfman.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>He estimated in the article that the club was bringing

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>in about three point eight million dollars by the end

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen seventy eight.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I know his work from later on. We did his

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>videos on golf Dorfund Dolph on Golf.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>That is a foundational film.

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's really incredible stuff. I can't believe he

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>jumped from He was actually, you know, like a major

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>player in you know, just not just New York Magazine,

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>but later on in sports. I mean, the guy he

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>can do anything. This Dorphann, I'm.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Telling ehs cases.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, I'm being told that was a different Doorphan.

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>No, It's okay, keep going. So the please note though,

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>that if he's saying they make three point eight million

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a year in nineteen seventy seven, they only paid eight

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand in taxes, which is kind of how it works

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>now for corporations anyway. But Ubelle said the article quote,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>this is rebel. The owner the profits are astronomical. Only

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the mafia does better. And then he also said it's

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a cash business, and you have to worry about the

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I R S. I don't want them to know everything.

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So the I R S is like, we'd like to

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>know everything, please, we have a new magazine subscription. Luckily,

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a disgruntled ex employee named Donald Moon had plenty to say.

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>So some say that Moon had tax problems and he

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>reported Studio fifty four to the I R S in

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>exchange for leniency. Others were like, no, he was just

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>angry because they didn't give him a promotion. They didn't

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>give them a raise.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I doubt the IRS gives you leniency. Have like gish.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So he got in touch with the I R S

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and he told him that Rebel and Trader were reporting

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>only some of their revenue to the I R S

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>is taxable income, keeping the rest without paying taxes on it.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>They were also storing coke in the basement. The I

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>R S is, it's like, that's our business. Tell me more,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>zaren close your eye. Oh, I want you to picture it. Yeah,

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it's December fourteenth, nineteen seventy eight, and you are an

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>IRS investigator. Oh no, you and thirty other agents have

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>been assigned to raid the business at two two four

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>West fifty fourth Street. Everyone knows this as Studio fifty four.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Your sister tried to go dancing there once. She told

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you about how she and her friends got all dawled

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>up and waited in line, only to be completely ignored

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>by the guy at the door. You aren't a disco guy,

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>You're more in a chamber music. You're excited to be there,

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>though for a few reasons. This is a major bust.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>To be sure, all eyes on you, guys. Everyone's keyed up.

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>This is a notorious place with tons of celebrities coming

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and going, and you can't wait to tell your sister

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what it's like inside. Even with the lights on the

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>bubble machines off, the whole crew has been joking about

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the club and what they might find inside. You also

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>get to sport your new IRS windbreaker today. It's so

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>official and you feel so good and confident when you

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>wear it. The clothes make the man, they say so

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the lead investigators. They've already made entrance, showing the search

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>warrant to the club owner's lawyer, Roy Kohane. You take

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a look at the guy and he gives you the

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>major creeps. Your blood runs cold. It's also cold outside.

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's it. So you and other agents you're standing

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>out on West fifty fourth waiting for the signal to

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>enter and begin the search. You rub your hands together

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>for warmth and watch your breath condense and dance on

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the sharp winter air. The windbreaker looks super cool, but

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't keep you warm. Your boss gives you the

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>wave of the hand and you make your way inside

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>this cavernous building. It looks so strange to be in

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a nightclub during the day. Your uncle owned a bar

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>out on Long Island, and you remember as a team

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>going to help him clean up a couple of times.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Seeing a dive in the light is like catching your

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>elderly neighbor in the news. It's intrusive for you both.

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It's unsettling, maybe a little haunting, but it's real life.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So you're direct did toward the club's office and you

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>begin your search. Other agents swarmed the desks, opening drawers

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and going through paper and office of themera. One of

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the owners of the club, Ian Schrager. He walks in

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>carrying a briefcase. Your coworker tells him put it on

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the ground. He does, and you go over and pick

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it up. Inside are some random documents, as well as

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>an envelope containing five one ounce packets of cocaine. You

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>lift it up and show everyone in the room. Laughter

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>rings out as you nod to the New York Police

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>officers standing at each side of the door. They cuffed

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the dude and haul them away. More laughter. As papers

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>shuffle and boxes get moved about, you find yourself standing

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the room, watching the commotion. You

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>look up at the ceiling, taking it all in. Is

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that glitter? Then you spot something. The ceiling tile seems

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a bit of skew. You follow your instinct and drag

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a small step stool over. It's metal lakes screeping against

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the tile floor. You climb the steps and reach up

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to the ceiling tile in question. You lift it slightly

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and move it gently to the side. There's a little resistance.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>What could be up there? You wonder, maybe a small person,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a panda. This place is unpredictable. You give the title

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a little more of a shove, and then something tumbles

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>out and kitchen in the head, then another, then another.

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Garbage bags You poke it one with your shoe. It

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>feels like paper in there. You bend down and open

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 1>up one of the bags. It's cash, all cash, same

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>with the other one. There's also a ledger book and

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 1>a bag of coeludes. You open the ledger and leave

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>through the pages. You start to laugh and everyone looks

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>over at you. Right there in the ledger book there's

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a column. The title of that column is skim. They

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>kept meticulous records of their crimes, and now you've got

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>them dead to rights.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>They kept a skim column.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>A skim column. There was more than two and a

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 1>half million dollars in the ceiling of the office. Cool. Yeah,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's basically sixty percent of their receipts for the

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>past two years. So another half.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Million there in the bags.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I had another half mill spread around, part of

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>it in the safety deposit box, and then they had

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>like personal safes. But yeah, that's the bank and the ceiling.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>The ledger had, as I said, explicit evidence of doctored

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>records and unreported cash transactions. They may have well put

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like crimes on the outside of the lawn below. So

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Schrager's lawyer did try to get some of the charges

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>lesson by telling the Feds that Hamilton Jordan, chief of

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>staff for President Jimmy Carter, had used cocaine in the

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>club's basement. And the Feds were like, whatever, snitch, we

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>don't care. That means nothing to do es. So then

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>June of nineteen seventy nine, Rebell and Schreeger they're charged

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>with tax evasion, obstruction of justice, conspiracy. Prosecutors said that

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>by failing to report over two point five million in income,

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>they defrauded the federal government of hundreds of thousands of

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars in taxes. So let's take a break. When we

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>come back, we'll find out how the trial went for

0:35:55.680 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>these two. Okay, So the raid of Studio fifty four,

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that was December nineteen seventy eight. A few months before that,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in August of nineteen seventy eight, the club hosted Andy

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Warhol's fiftieth birthday wow. Rubel gave Andy Warhol a roll

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of five thousand free drink tickets to hand out to

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>his pals. Five thousand.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you do that.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>And then he also gave him a silver garbage can,

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and in that can were one thousand brand new dollar bills.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, not what I thought it was going to be.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>In the tarms can. I'll have to admit it was

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>may or may not be a live turtle. So Warhol

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>he's thrilled. He's just like, I love this, he told

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the screends. He's like, this is the best present I've

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>ever been given, like he says, in all sincerity to

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>all these people, and everyone's just like partying and celebrating.

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And some of his pals lifted the can over his

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>head like a full cooler a gatorade and dumped it

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 1>over him and cheers, whoops, go up. He freaks out

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.479
<v Speaker 1>and just like scrambles around to gather up all the money.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.919
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want anyone taking it. Yeah, Andy Warh.

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 2>They dumped the money, and then all of a sudden,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>he's the first one on the ground scooping it up

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>like a honey badger.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't touch it. That's my birthday present. I tell

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you all this because when the Feds raided the office,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they found all sorts of, like I said, the ledgers

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>with all the details. And one of the ledgers was

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a list of gifts given to celebrity friends and clients.

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>And so New York Magazine got a hold of the

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>list in November of seventy nine, and they published it.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's when Andy Warhol learned that his garbage can

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of cash only had eight hundred dollars in ones in it,

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>not a thousand, and his associate Bob Colacello wrote in

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>his memoir quote, Andy's first reaction was, you mean they

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 1>told me there was one thousand dollars in there and

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it was only eight hundred dollars. I knew I should

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>have counted it. Wow with that, Yeah, So in light

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>of all the like detailed evidence, why.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Would he why would it matter? Why would he need

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that extra two hundred dollars? Why?

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess they my money is like messing with my

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>mind by emotions. So in light of all the like

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>evidence that they have laid out and like left this

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>incriminating evidence on a platter, they pleaded guilty. Yeah. They

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to avoid a trial, that.

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>So January of nineteen eighty they were each sentenced to

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>four years in federal prison on two counts of income

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>tax evasion. They got charged with skimming two and a

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>half million, defrauding the government of like four hundred thousand.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>During their sentencing, the judge chastise them for flouting the

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>law and being so completely motivated by greed, Like, duh,

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that's why people wind up in court anyway. February nineteen eighty,

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>just before they're set to go serve their time, Rubel

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and Schrager, they threw one last epic party at Studio

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>fifty four. Oh wow, and they called it the end

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of modern day gomorrah.

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I bet they were not wrong.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, this was smaller than most nights. There are almost

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>two thousand people there.

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's very much the end of an era.

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh completely. They had the regulars, the classics, Richard gear Halston,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Jackson, Yes, mister October, Mister October represent Andy Warhol.

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he's like he wants his money's worth. Florida Loft,

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Sylvester Saloon, Diana Ross, she does set. Liza Minelli was there.

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course, I think he lived there on the floor.

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Just wake up in the learning, asked for orange juice.

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>She performed New York, New York.

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that not a peak of I'm a big Liz fan.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But Liza Minelli performing New York, New York in

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Studio fifty.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Night.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Seen, but not to be outdone, Steve Rebel. He

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>puts on a fedora and he belts out a rousing

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>rendition of Sinatra's My Way. I don't know, I didn't know.

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 1>They played that song on the sound system like a

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.439
<v Speaker 1>bunch of different times. It would come on like every

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>fifth song or whatever. The other one that they played

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>over and over is Gloria Gators, I will survive, Okay,

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, great song Disco Nirvana where they are so

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Steve Rebel. He gives this like serious, tear filled speech

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to the crowd while standing on this platform that's like

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>rotating slow. It was like hanging above the dance floor,

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>this elevated platform, and he's apparently just like coked to

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the gills, which isn't really surprising. Somehow he eats. Someone

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who was there told report quote Bianca Jagger was hugging

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>him and he was saying, I love you people. I

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm gonna do without studio, and everyone

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>was crying and weeping. New York Post columnist Jack Martin

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>wrote of Rubel quote, he was sort of spaced out.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>He had accepted it. It was a sad going away party,

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but we were laughing and trying to have fun. We

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>were with him literally until he took a car to

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>go home and meet the authorities.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh so that's the way to go out though a big,

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>big party with your friends, and in the morning you

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 2>get turned over.

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>To the exactly and head off to a federal presents

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>frush fish. So that they were sent to three and

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a half years, but each of them only did thirteen

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>months before getting paroled. Okay, so while Rubel and Schrager

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 1>were in the can the world whole world changed everything. Well,

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>they tried to keep the club running, but like Steake,

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>get faded and they got eleven year old Drew Barrymore

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>to coke off the tables come on. So the pair

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>had intended to convert the club to like more rock

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>music friendly, as disco was starting to become a little

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>passe Regan's America, but they never got the chance, and

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the club eventually shuddered in nineteen eighty six. Like for good,

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, Rebel and Schrager, they did their time.

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>They got out and got back into business, the hotel

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>business this time. Oh so they bought this rundown place

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>on West forty sixth Street at eighth Avenue called the Paramount,

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and they totally refurbished. It made it super super hit,

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and then they had a hit on their hands. They

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>just you know, it was amazing. They basically created the

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>modern boutique hotel.

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's a Shei hotel that's not just small and unchained,

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like but fashionable. Is like a strong aesthetic.

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's like the places you stay versus where I

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 2>still I don't like.

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't you like nice hotels?

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I like nice hotels, but it like you

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 1>don't like these boutique kinds, boutique coachels. Oh I feel

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm not cool enough to be in there.

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I walk in to check in and they kind

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of like look me up and down.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh jeez, okay, you're you're wearing Adidas. Yeah,

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm just being out.

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>They're like, your your whole You're aesthetic is what is what? Disheveled? Man?

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>You're wearing track pants?

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Like, just I get uncomfortable. I like, you know, I

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like nice things, but I'm not.

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>But you don't want to be around the people who only.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that's not cool enough for some of these things.

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, I'll argue with those people on your behalf.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>You are cool, thank you so much. They're wrong, Elizabeth

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>does this TV get law and Order? They're like, you

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>need to leave.

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you have the Law and Order channel?

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>They just look at me and they go to where's

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>where's the ritz? So uh Rubelle. He passed away from

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>complications of AIDS in nineteen eighty nine, which, like, you know,

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that was the time. Oh yeah, very much of

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the era for the When I was reading about it, yeah,

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like he tried to kind of pass like staying in

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the closet.

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, coming out of the disco seventies. I mean this

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 2>took out a lot.

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Of God do you think of Yeah, that this absolute destruction.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, when I was just reading about it,

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it really hit me, like you know, the law and

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>also how far we've come in terms of people like

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>science wise, like oh my god, like you know, live saved,

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.280
<v Speaker 1>but also just like people being able to be themselves.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was all having him.

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Like hearing about him like living in secret and not

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 1>being able to tell anybody being so sick made me sad. Anyway.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Schreeger he kept on chegging. He developed top of the

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:26.439
<v Speaker 1>line hotels like the Royalton, the Madrian, Grammercy Park. Yeah,

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he currently heads up the very Fashionable Public Hotels brand.

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, he reached out to the guy who

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>locked him up in the first place, Southern District of

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>New York's assistant US Attorney, Peter so Sudler.

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's like, beep Peter.

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So he called Sudler because he wanted a pardon. Really,

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to clear his name and not have a

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>legacy as a felon. Don't commit a crime, my guy,

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and then you will be a felon. Well Sudler was like,

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you deserve a pardon because you've done

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>your time, you've paid your fine, and you make a

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:09.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. You're very successful. It pays to have money.

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So it was in twenty seventeen that President Barack Obama

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>pardon Shreger is like all presidents love celebrities.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, and money freeze.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>They love them. And you know so Ian Schrager gets

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to reinvent himself. So here we have this intersection between

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>talent and fame, crime accountability. Like a chic, fashionable, exclusive

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere inspires something in people, whether it's like a desire

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to be part of it or a need to bring

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it down good point, you know what I mean? Oh yeah,

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>so thank you.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so triggering this club.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I just want to go stand in my truth in

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle of it. So the Feds they used Studio

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty four is a cautionary tale to like celebrity nightclubs

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>that thought they could be in the spotlight but like

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>skirt the law because of it. And for most of

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>us though, the place just lives on is the epitome

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>of seventies New York disco excess, totally dazzling parties, huge

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>cultural impact.

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, definitely disco decadence.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>And so much glitters there.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 2>I think I got some in my outfit.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Just tearing the story about it. Yeah, I can feel

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>what I would love to hear your takeaway on this.

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:25.720
<v Speaker 2>What's rather ridiculous? Are you ready?

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it would have been fun to actually hang

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 2>out with these people, even though almost everything you describe

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>sounds obnoxious when you start hearing it, like, Okay, you

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>got Robin Williams on cocaine with like, you know, you

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>pick another three celebrities or coin on cocaine and they're

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 2>all like having a dance off around a bunch of

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>people who are trying to be impressive. I'm like, okay,

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and Andy Warhol's on the ground grabbing it many Yeah, okay,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>that'd probably be no fun. But yet I would love to.

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Love the idea of I love hearing the stories of it.

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a different America, so decadent, weird.

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>If you yourself in it, yes, i'd be like I

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>need to go home. No, exactly, you can't with these.

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 2>People, Like I gotta get a headache just hearing about it.

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But I love the stories.

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and somehow I'm still drawn to it, like I

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 2>want to be somewhere where, like let's be a jacker, you.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean. I want to hear have those

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>moments because that picture of her on the horse is

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>that's incredible.

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what would and the people by the way,

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the people being turned away and the horse coming in.

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>How so you got two nicked ladies standing there all

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>covered in glittery? Can we talk to about Like I

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know if there was a saddle on the horse.

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm figuring it was unsaddled.

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're saddled with glitter, But its hair is done.

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>It's main is looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>The hygiene issues alone do not.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you how much cocaine a horse can do with

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<v Speaker 2>those nostrils.

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<v Speaker 1>Calling peta, So I think what I need is aside

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<v Speaker 1>from a disco. Now is a talk back day?

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, god, oh god, he went ge.

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<v Speaker 4>Say Ridiculous Crime. My name is Amanda and I'm calling

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<v Speaker 4>out on behalf of my client and dog Sherlock Bones.

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<v Speaker 4>He seeks an opportunity to be your next intern. This rude, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>caper loving canine has solved many notable cases including why

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<v Speaker 4>is dinner two minutes late? Where did that squirrel go?

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<v Speaker 4>Who at this party? Is most likely to give me treat?

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<v Speaker 4>He's ready to sniff out the truth or bury the

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<v Speaker 4>latest mashup. Thanks for the show, keep up the great work.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sherlock Bones is a little overqualified for our interns.

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<v Speaker 2>Made rosy nervous. Our new intern just ran out of

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<v Speaker 2>the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh boy. We may have to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a position for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>May leader and you want this kind of intern?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you for that. This that's it for today.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find us online at Ridiculous Crime dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>which is probably one of the Internet's most secure websites. Interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I read.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah on as a Polka dot hacker, I can say

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading secure website weekly and every day we're

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<v Speaker 1>on page two most Secure. I'm like, did it again?

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<v Speaker 1>Good job. We're also on Instagram and blue Sky and

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<v Speaker 1>you can email us at Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course, as I always say, the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing is to leave a top back on the

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