Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. It is La La Kent. We're back at
Speaker 1: it baby with t T just the two of us,
Speaker 1: just the best. It feels just like I'm right at home.
Speaker 2: This is my favorite.
Speaker 1: So yesterday, I've talked about tattoos a lot, and I
Speaker 1: always feel like every time I get one, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I don't need another one. So yesterday we
Speaker 1: had someone come to the house. His name's Ignausio Suarez,
Speaker 1: and I found him because Sheena has been getting a
Speaker 1: lot of her tattoos done by him recently, and I
Speaker 1: loved just like the crisp, fine lines. He's so good,
Speaker 1: and I was picturing exactly how I wanted Sosa's name
Speaker 1: and where, and he came over and I loved that
Speaker 1: because like obviously for me, I am not a tattoo connoisseur.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of tattoos that have just kind
Speaker 1: of like they bled just based off of me not
Speaker 1: wanting to listen to the artist then being like that's
Speaker 1: not a great spot for a tattoo, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: just want it, and then they do it and it
Speaker 1: doesn't turn out exactly how I want, but it's like whatever.
Speaker 1: I just felt like yesterday I'm like, I'm gonna listen
Speaker 1: to Yeah. So he goes by Iggy. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna listen to Iggy.
Speaker 2: I told you what I wanted. His Instagram is c
Speaker 2: a c Ho tattoo.
Speaker 3: So how do you say that?
Speaker 4: Ketchoketcho okay ketcho tattoo is his stag?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: So I got Sosa's name on my arm. It's still
Speaker 1: wrapped up.
Speaker 3: And then I wanted La on my middle finger on.
Speaker 1: My left hand for so long Eastern I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get any tattoos on my left
Speaker 1: hand because that's the hand that you put.
Speaker 3: You said I would say this, I'm like your ring
Speaker 3: finger hand.
Speaker 2: Oh that's why this hand is clean.
Speaker 4: I told you, like I wanted to one of mine
Speaker 4: on my left but I was like, I just want
Speaker 4: it for like, for clean hand for when I never
Speaker 4: get married.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always nice to just like know that there's
Speaker 1: a possibility a fifty to fifty show it's.
Speaker 4: Clean if there is one, not to tattoo for the
Speaker 4: wife or anything. I just want to clean reading fingerhead.
Speaker 1: I totally get that. So is that whole arm clean?
Speaker 2: The whole Yeah, I'm keeping the whole thing clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my left arm is where I have the eight
Speaker 1: oh one tattoo.
Speaker 2: But that's on your shoulder, so that you're good.
Speaker 3: I'm fine.
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 1: get the LA on the left middle finger because it
Speaker 1: looks cute. I like, drew it on with a sharpie,
Speaker 1: loved it. I was like, I'm most likely never going
Speaker 1: to get married, and even if I do have a
Speaker 1: ring on the finger for like commitment purposes, like do.
Speaker 3: I really care? No different thinking process.
Speaker 1: So I tell Iggy, I'm like, this is where I
Speaker 1: want it. He said, it's if you go deep into
Speaker 1: the skin.
Speaker 3: On the finger, it's going to blow out.
Speaker 1: It's not going to look like that sharpie does because
Speaker 1: that sharpiet is basically a surface tattoo.
Speaker 3: So he goes, So.
Speaker 1: I'll go on more of the top of the skin.
Speaker 1: I won't go deep. He goes, but then it's going
Speaker 1: to fade very quickly. But if you want, I can
Speaker 1: come back and touch it up whenever. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't like maintenance. I don't like maintenance. So I
Speaker 1: put on my right hand just right there. He said
Speaker 1: that was a good spot.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really love them.
Speaker 1: They're like super delicate and fine. And now I think
Speaker 1: I am done unless I have a third kid.
Speaker 2: So you're not done, which.
Speaker 4: Is that very So we're not done with tattoos, is
Speaker 4: what we just came to the conclusion of.
Speaker 1: Mom loves to be like, why are you getting hand tattoos?
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell her I was doing the la one.
Speaker 1: She's like, look at my hands. They're old and wrinkly
Speaker 1: and have veins and spots. This is what it's going
Speaker 1: to look like, Lauren. And I was like, I just
Speaker 1: feel like those hands are not my hand's future.
Speaker 4: And even if it's an exposure, I just have a
Speaker 4: feeling that down the line there are gonna be tattoo
Speaker 4: removals that don't hurt or are very easy.
Speaker 3: Well, like just like a cream or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or there's going to be a cream for your
Speaker 4: hands not to look like a catcher's mit at sixty
Speaker 4: years old. Oh, I love that, you know, Like there's
Speaker 4: gonna be some more like skin treatments.
Speaker 2: And I think just down the line when I have
Speaker 2: to worry, by the time you're over it, I'll there's
Speaker 2: a solution.
Speaker 1: I fully agree with you, Like I'll be able to
Speaker 1: just walk through a machine or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I have to believe that because if I don't,
Speaker 4: then I'll go crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't like forever, so.
Speaker 1: I'm a weirdness like I don't like commitment and I
Speaker 1: don't like the thought of forever.
Speaker 3: But just like, put this forever thing on my body.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 4: When you were telling me about the botched tattoos that
Speaker 4: you've seen and things like that, like did you start pacing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very important you make sure that all looks right.
Speaker 2: He was starting to tattoo the numbers and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: what what have we got down there? Right? He was like,
Speaker 2: do you want to take a look?
Speaker 4: And I looked three times over again because I was
Speaker 4: so nervous. They're good though, They're good great. Still worried though,
Speaker 4: I still look down and I'm like.
Speaker 2: But are they I mean too late now, buddy, No,
Speaker 2: it's never too late.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Happy Gilmore too?
Speaker 2: Let me put it to you this way. I have
Speaker 2: troubles like just falling asleep. I have fallen asleep twice.
Speaker 4: I've tried to watch it in the movie twice over,
Speaker 4: and I've never had somebody.
Speaker 2: Put me in such a like zen state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so it wasn't boring.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's amazing. I mean a lot of people
Speaker 4: are like there's too much going on, and it's like
Speaker 4: it's happy Gilmore too. We know that it's full of cameos, yeah,
Speaker 4: of just random people, like it's his The thing is he's.
Speaker 2: He kills his wife on accident, right I saw that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so just funny off the bat, But like he
Speaker 4: has to go back and play because his daughter is
Speaker 4: really good at ballet and dance.
Speaker 1: So and his wife plays the ballet teacher. Yes, and
Speaker 1: his actual daughter plays, and then his other.
Speaker 2: Daughter plays the AA meeting. She's the drunk.
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, So like he goes to the AA
Speaker 4: meetings that aren't like AA meetings, but his other daughter
Speaker 4: in real life is like tattooed in it and like
Speaker 4: telling him that it's going to be all right, and
Speaker 4: then forgetting his name, but he was the.
Speaker 3: Wow are you talking about Shooter McGavin.
Speaker 4: No, the other one who played his grandma's and I'm
Speaker 4: forgetting his name, but he's in everything. His dad is
Speaker 4: in Seinfeld Stellar Ben Stiller still yea, So.
Speaker 2: He plays like the AA guy.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like he put his Happy Gilmore's
Speaker 4: grandma through hell and now.
Speaker 2: He's putting Happy Gilmore through hell. So it's just like
Speaker 2: a lot of fun things.
Speaker 1: But it was like, what was Kid Cuddy's camp? Did
Speaker 1: he have a cao or a pretty large.
Speaker 4: Part because Eminem, yeah, I haven't seen that cameo, but
Speaker 4: like they're just face to face and Eminem just says
Speaker 4: something and like a little hat and stuff, but like, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's got a It's unreal.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Eminem doesn't do anything anything, Yeah, and I love everything
Speaker 4: that he does, even in I.
Speaker 2: Can't remember the name of the video or the movie,
Speaker 2: but it's Interview.
Speaker 4: Or something like that where they go over to North
Speaker 4: Korea to like interview Jim but like no Ki Kim
Speaker 4: jong un whatever. But in the movie he's talking to
Speaker 4: Eminem and Eminem is like, he's like, yeah, you have
Speaker 4: a lot of things that relate to you liking guys,
Speaker 4: and he goes, yeah, I do, I do, and like
Speaker 4: the part of him to play that like you never
Speaker 4: get Eminem, and then he goes and.
Speaker 1: Plays this part of like no, he's incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he.
Speaker 4: Played in that they obviously, I you brought it up
Speaker 4: to me, but I caught it was the Disney Channel Star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Happy Gilmour came out well before or The Descendants,
Speaker 1: which was on Disney channels. So there was like in
Speaker 1: a scene where Cameron Boyce is on the screen, it's.
Speaker 4: Let me put it this way, it's like a caddyshack.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: And then like the screen is in the back of
Speaker 4: it where the people are working, yes, and like on
Speaker 4: the TV screen you see Cameron voice.
Speaker 1: And he passed away a few years ago from complications
Speaker 1: with epilepsy, and everyone was like beside themselves because he
Speaker 1: was like the Disney heart throb, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was the in my opinion, he was
Speaker 2: going to be the zac Efron.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He just had like a very bright future, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people didn't know. It's so
Speaker 1: interesting when you see someone who blows up and you
Speaker 1: only know them for that and then you start seeing
Speaker 1: them in things where you were like, I had no
Speaker 1: idea that he was in this.
Speaker 3: It's like Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan, who I first saw him when he was in
Speaker 1: Hardball with Keanu Reeves and then he just blew up right.
Speaker 1: I had such a crush on him when he was
Speaker 1: in Hardball. Oh my god, anytime it came to the
Speaker 1: point where they kicked him off the team because he
Speaker 1: was too old. I started the movie over the devastating
Speaker 1: don't buy.
Speaker 2: Come Back and player No, I can't even remember.
Speaker 3: No, don't you remember?
Speaker 1: He like gets caught up in like not a good life,
Speaker 1: and then the shooting happens and g baby gets hit
Speaker 1: by a ricochet bullet. No, the movie is heartbreaking. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, how did that take a turn? There was
Speaker 1: also you pointed this out to me that there was
Speaker 1: a tribute to Chris Farley.
Speaker 3: Were like at the end of Happy Gilbart too.
Speaker 2: So it's.
Speaker 4: Chris Farley and Tommy Boy and he's just walking by
Speaker 4: himself down.
Speaker 2: Just a street, like a dirt road.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And in the end of the movie of Have You
Speaker 4: Go Toppy Gilmore, he grabs his clubs out of the
Speaker 4: back of the car and then it like switches to
Speaker 4: the same camera angle.
Speaker 2: So it paid tribute to Chris Farley.
Speaker 1: Every time you guys I put Sosa in her sleep suit,
Speaker 1: it's like this puff suit, like this.
Speaker 2: Fat guy in a little kind and.
Speaker 1: I feel it's so funny because she's just so big
Speaker 1: and awkward.
Speaker 3: Like I take her out and she's.
Speaker 1: Just like this, and it's exactly like she has to
Speaker 1: become a giant potato.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 4: She is, just a big potato that just doesn't move
Speaker 4: here and there.
Speaker 1: I know when she's pushing eleven months and I have her,
Speaker 1: I have her in a sleep suit and a weighted blanket.
Speaker 1: You put this girl in just her pjs, she stores
Speaker 1: one or the other. She's up and bounces and you
Speaker 1: can't get her to bed, like it wakes her up.
Speaker 1: I finally got her down. She's teething right now, and
Speaker 1: so I had to make her fat guy in a
Speaker 1: little coat again.
Speaker 4: I was like, you may need to get another coat
Speaker 4: because I saw her on well, yeah, I saw her
Speaker 4: on the.
Speaker 1: They don't make the most kids should be out of those.
Speaker 4: We got to get a weighted blanket.
Speaker 2: But like when I saw her, I was on the
Speaker 2: baby monitor.
Speaker 4: You guys, obviously I've never seen it, but you guys
Speaker 4: weren't freaking out.
Speaker 2: I saw her and she was standing.
Speaker 4: I sprinted upstairs to get her because I was like,
Speaker 4: oh no, because you guys.
Speaker 2: Were like out at the pool.
Speaker 4: But like you had just seen her like that, So
Speaker 4: I was like, because I go, she was standing and.
Speaker 2: You go, yeah, she does that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: I was like, I thought she was gonna be and
Speaker 4: she's chewing the wood, isn't she is?
Speaker 2: She is? She?
Speaker 3: Well, I think she needs her top teeth.
Speaker 1: But I think that's why she was losing her mind
Speaker 1: yesterday because she's in prime teething.
Speaker 4: Well, I see like the little lights of them on
Speaker 4: the top of her guns now.
Speaker 2: And that before.
Speaker 1: I texted Janet and I was like, I cannot kick
Speaker 1: it today because my kid is beside herself and she goes,
Speaker 1: did you have you felt any spikes? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I just don't feel comfortable shoving these nails into her
Speaker 1: mouth because even when you wash your hands thoroughly, like
Speaker 1: these are fake nails, you don't know what what's happening.
Speaker 1: I know that sounds horrendous. Most of us have fake nails,
Speaker 1: but like, I just don't feel comfortable being like what's
Speaker 1: going on in here?
Speaker 4: I agree, but like, couldn't you do like the top
Speaker 4: like stick it your finger just lightly and do like
Speaker 4: the top knuckle where maybe it's not as filthy touching
Speaker 4: and things?
Speaker 2: Do you get what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, you know what I did.
Speaker 1: I wash my hands and then I put a little
Speaker 1: glove on to feel around, and the gums just felt super,
Speaker 1: super swollen.
Speaker 2: It was her eyes are all red and her nose.
Speaker 3: She's looked better, for sure.
Speaker 2: She's going through right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have that problem with Ocean on the
Speaker 1: heels of this whole.
Speaker 3: I was talking to mom about this the other day too.
Speaker 1: The Brian Coburger and him taking the Plea deal and
Speaker 1: getting life. Can I tell you so, we watched One
Speaker 1: Night in Idaho and it's a docu series, four episodes
Speaker 1: on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Very well put together.
Speaker 1: It was so well put together because for the first
Speaker 1: time we were able to listen to Ethan Chapin's parents
Speaker 1: and Mattie Mogan's.
Speaker 2: Mom and dad, and the siblings and.
Speaker 1: The siblings, and it was the first time that it
Speaker 1: wasn't just an interview about what happened.
Speaker 2: Was it wasn't just a murder case. I got to know, you.
Speaker 3: Got to know the victims.
Speaker 1: And on the other side, you got to see how
Speaker 1: deeply affected all these people were with the media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a bone to pick with people.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing that I was feeling a little
Speaker 1: guilty about a lot of a lot of guilt. You know,
Speaker 1: we have a podcast where you talk about things that
Speaker 1: are in the news. Right there are people who are
Speaker 1: like internet sleuths who are out here to solve murders.
Speaker 1: They're going in and like circling pictures and you know,
Speaker 1: putting in and.
Speaker 2: They do well.
Speaker 4: Like I'm not going to say that they don't, but
Speaker 4: like when you're bringing up twenty year olds and things
Speaker 4: like that, and you're just the internet sleuth and saying,
Speaker 4: are the two that survived Dylan and why aren't they getting.
Speaker 1: Charged at the I'm saying, they're like, these two are
Speaker 1: not innocent. And they had a psychologist on there who said,
Speaker 1: you know, people want to talk about Dylan's behavior in
Speaker 1: that moment, and what she did was actually very normal
Speaker 1: for a person of her age when you start going
Speaker 1: in to trauma. You know, she's opened the door, she's
Speaker 1: seen someone she does not recognize, and she's heard voices.
Speaker 1: You can't say what you would have done because in
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 3: There are people who fight flight or freeze.
Speaker 1: And I know, just based off of my mom when
Speaker 1: things have happened, like she's a freezer.
Speaker 2: She doesn't No, she can't move.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we watched these episodes and I just like it
Speaker 1: was so heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: I didn't there were times where like I didn't want
Speaker 4: to watch it, and I should have been honest and
Speaker 4: been like, this is right, it's ruining my sleep in
Speaker 4: a sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't say.
Speaker 1: I was constantly it was wild that I would like
Speaker 1: sometimes at night all wake up to certain noises. But
Speaker 1: after watching that, it was the first time that I
Speaker 1: was actually feeling like if someone were in here right now,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the fear. I can't imagine living in
Speaker 1: a place where like nothing really happens. You know everybody
Speaker 1: you go to the same place.
Speaker 2: You leave it, you lock your doors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I remember one of them said, I don't
Speaker 4: remember ever locking my door behind me because everybody knew everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the weird thing.
Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like I haven't been sleeping
Speaker 4: is there's so many stories. Okay, there were four victims,
Speaker 4: and it's like, Okay, I'm waking up and it's like,
Speaker 4: am I the victim.
Speaker 2: Or am I the person hearing the sounds of this?
Speaker 2: So I'm like, because I saw so much, I'm when
Speaker 2: I was sleeping. I was like getting up out of sleep,
Speaker 2: like okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I'd walk around just to make sure I
Speaker 4: didn't see anybody, Like it really took a toll on me.
Speaker 1: And let's also remember that it was a night of like,
Speaker 1: they're college students, they were partying, it was Saturday night.
Speaker 3: It was a Saturday night. Whether they were drinking, smoking.
Speaker 1: Weed, vaping, taking a shop to who gives one shit? Right,
Speaker 1: they were having fun, living a very normal college experience.
Speaker 1: So when Dylan opens the door, we don't know her
Speaker 1: state of mind, right, No, she's a twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: year old girl in college living her best life, being
Speaker 1: a normal chit going to see.
Speaker 2: Who thinks that this is ever gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Ever in your life?
Speaker 1: Right? And I love that. I loved the statements from
Speaker 1: what is it called when you like the families can
Speaker 1: stand up and address the killer of a victim statement,
Speaker 1: it's a victim statement, the victim statements.
Speaker 4: We're fucking off Kylie's sister, Kayleie, Kaylee Kaylee's sister.
Speaker 1: Olivia, where she was like, you came in in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Like a fucking pedophile.
Speaker 1: I'm like, get him.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I loved when she just said, and if you, if
Speaker 4: you would have attacked them and when they were.
Speaker 2: Awake, yeah, Kaylee would have kicked your fucking ass and
Speaker 2: she would have.
Speaker 3: I could tell that.
Speaker 2: I was reading comments.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I feel one of two ways, Like the
Speaker 1: Chapins didn't go. They didn't want to give him an
Speaker 1: ounce of time, and Mom was like, that's how I
Speaker 1: would have been. I loved what Olivia said because she
Speaker 1: wanted him to know, like you, you're not going to
Speaker 1: get through to someone like him who can literally stab
Speaker 1: Just the two victims were stabbed a total of eighty times.
Speaker 1: We don't know how many times the other two. So
Speaker 1: when you're talking to someone like that, they don't care
Speaker 1: you saying you took someone that I loved.
Speaker 3: He feels nothing. He's a fucking robot. He's a weirdo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, one kills four people the way he does
Speaker 2: and has feelings.
Speaker 1: No, So the way you get to him is either
Speaker 1: giving him no attention at all or telling him like
Speaker 1: you don't matter. Yeah, you you have to tap into
Speaker 1: a place of like I'm unaffected by you.
Speaker 4: The one thing that I really do think that will
Speaker 4: stick with him is don't think you matter because somebody
Speaker 4: said your name out loud.
Speaker 3: Oh I have chills.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No. When she said that, I was like, that
Speaker 2: is a yeah.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you what I want? Though?
Speaker 1: The plea deal should have come with. Here's a list
Speaker 1: of our questions. You must answer every single one otherwise
Speaker 1: deal is off and you will give us a play
Speaker 1: by play of your mental state.
Speaker 3: What happened that night?
Speaker 1: Why? And if you cannot do that, death, We're done
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: Death to you.
Speaker 3: That's on the table.
Speaker 1: And I think that living in prison for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life feels awful if you believe in like
Speaker 1: heaven or hell. Obviously you put him to death and
Speaker 1: he's going to suffer.
Speaker 4: Unimagined to believe he's coming back exists, right, But if
Speaker 4: you believe that, just choose to believe he's going to
Speaker 4: come back as something terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like something.
Speaker 4: That he really lives through, not like a fish that
Speaker 4: has to run for its life from a shark at
Speaker 4: all times, something like that, Like you're always on your
Speaker 4: fucking they're on your ass. Yeah, he can't quiet down
Speaker 4: his mind for a second because if he does, he
Speaker 4: gets eaten. Right, that's what he has to come back ask.
Speaker 3: Let's move on from that topic.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate no.
Speaker 4: This is making me feel really good though about it
Speaker 4: because of how I felt.
Speaker 2: And yeah, no, I the.
Speaker 1: Last thing I'm going to say the mom, which one
Speaker 1: the mom of Kaylee, was like, You're finally gonna be
Speaker 1: touched the way you've always wanted, except it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little different than how you pictured it.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: I was like, you fucking fuckuad.
Speaker 3: And you know that Maddie's dad.
Speaker 4: When he's just like he was the most kept human
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, because deep down, I know this guy
Speaker 4: has an arsenal of a lot.
Speaker 2: Of things mm hmm, and he was keeping.
Speaker 4: It like under wraps of like, yeah, I just don't
Speaker 4: understand when he was in his mind, I could read
Speaker 4: I wanted to get everything I had and find this
Speaker 4: man and do whatever I could to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I respect it.
Speaker 1: How he like tried to keep his composure.
Speaker 2: He did very well, all right.
Speaker 1: So that that murder that you're talking about, the guy
Speaker 1: who like poisoned his wife like ten times.
Speaker 2: Yes, and for like ten day straight, for.
Speaker 1: Like ten days straight in her smoothies and you guys,
Speaker 1: this guy clearly has watched not a lick of Dateline
Speaker 1: or twenty twenty. He's putting into his Google search bar.
Speaker 1: I kid you not, if I murder my wife with
Speaker 1: arsenal with arsenic, is it traceable?
Speaker 3: It's like, wow, we're now.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say yes, it may have not been, but
Speaker 2: it is now. And it was like that.
Speaker 1: He says that it was like suicide right, and he
Speaker 1: like did some chat, gput for his daughter and is like,
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna say, like.
Speaker 2: His daughter, I want to know now who his daughter
Speaker 2: is to be.
Speaker 1: No, by the way, his daughter is what they would
Speaker 1: call a rat. But we're glad because she's like, no,
Speaker 1: my dad's fucking insane.
Speaker 2: Can't do this. Ship So she did. She folded and
Speaker 2: was like what am I?
Speaker 1: She was a great idea, dad, Yo.
Speaker 2: She was the whistleblower of like, yo, he's having me.
Speaker 1: She was someone who they brought in to take him down.
Speaker 3: And like.
Speaker 1: The prosecution was like the search engine didn't say if
Speaker 1: my wife tries to kill herself will arsenic work? It
Speaker 1: was very clear what's.
Speaker 4: Happening, and not only that, Let's get on Amazon and
Speaker 4: have it delivered to the house.
Speaker 3: Can you get it on?
Speaker 1: I was watching The Worst Roommate Ever and this one girl.
Speaker 3: They were in Utah.
Speaker 1: She got all of her stuff on the black market,
Speaker 1: but still traceable. You guys, you cannot order things her own.
Speaker 1: First of all, stop trying to kill people.
Speaker 2: Right if you don't like him.
Speaker 4: There's a thing called you don't have that, or you
Speaker 4: can leave, even if it's a friend, a.
Speaker 2: Girlfriend you're not, you can leave. How wild that you don't.
Speaker 2: You have a choice. You could leave. You don't have
Speaker 2: to kill him to leave. Just leave.
Speaker 1: The people are freaking insane, and it's actually like every
Speaker 1: other day, like the other So you guys know, I
Speaker 1: wake up and watch the news every single day.
Speaker 3: A couple in Arkansas.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: They're walking with their two children. Okay, Hi, a normal day,
Speaker 1: a hike at Devil's Den. A random guy right now,
Speaker 1: there's no motive attached. Okay, this guy, he's twenty eight
Speaker 1: years old. They finally arrested him, I want to say,
Speaker 1: a few days ago, and you guys, he just stabs
Speaker 1: the couple to the front of the freaking kids.
Speaker 3: The kids run off, find help.
Speaker 1: I could not believe it. What goes wrong in someone's life.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it, And this sounds horrible. If
Speaker 1: life is that bad, like the guy who rolls up
Speaker 1: on the NFL building and then he handed his own life.
Speaker 2: Just kill yourself. I know it is morbid, but it's
Speaker 2: like the people that you're taking away, they shouldn't be.
Speaker 4: No, you should be with the thoughts, but the thoughts
Speaker 4: just and if it's that bad, go to Switzerland, I know,
Speaker 4: go to they do assistance, they do assisted death.
Speaker 2: You can actually say, like I want to die, They'll
Speaker 2: kill you. It's legal over there. And I know.
Speaker 4: It's a little dark, no way it could be dark,
Speaker 4: but it's such a true statement that you said.
Speaker 1: Like, I know it really morbid, and I don't everyone's
Speaker 1: agreeing with you. I I want to reiterate there's help
Speaker 1: out there for your mental state.
Speaker 3: Science has come a very long way.
Speaker 1: Conversations can happen, meds can happen, There's so much you
Speaker 1: can access, and I just don't understand how someone could
Speaker 1: get to that place. The guy who did the shooting
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, he was really upset about football.
Speaker 3: He had is it CTE?
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called Yeah, and he wrote a
Speaker 1: long letter about how he didn't feel protected and then
Speaker 1: he ended his own life. And it's like, write the letter,
Speaker 1: and if that's gonna be the end game, let's like
Speaker 1: not cause heartbreak amongst so many families. I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: on because it just sends me into a rage and
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna get in tru I.
Speaker 4: Do want to go back to the One Night and Idaho,
Speaker 4: because wasn't he trying to reenact somebody else's murders?
Speaker 1: Yeah, something Rogers and he was Papa Rogers on a
Speaker 1: Facebook group that was talking about the murders and he
Speaker 1: went by this and they're trying to connect that. I
Speaker 1: believe it was Ellis Rogers who it's called in Cell
Speaker 1: and it's basically a hate group towards women in.
Speaker 3: Who are sexually active.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, But again, that guy ended his life as
Speaker 1: well after.
Speaker 3: He went on a rampage.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, he hit three different locations and it was
Speaker 1: just he left utter devastation and then ended his own life.
Speaker 3: Coberger did not.
Speaker 1: I hope that that.
Speaker 3: I hope that that.
Speaker 1: Woman who he respected so much, who gets in the
Speaker 1: mind of serial killers, and she she.
Speaker 3: Would go in and I don't know if she was.
Speaker 1: A teacher at DeSales University or if she would just
Speaker 1: go in and give a seminar, but he highly respected her.
Speaker 1: I want them to send her in get into the
Speaker 1: mind of this fucking nut.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so if because I know it sounds terrible,
Speaker 4: but history repeats itself, and you know it's not going
Speaker 4: to be the last one. It's it's as sad as
Speaker 4: it is. Yeah, but it would be nice to understand
Speaker 4: the motives so you can understand other different patterns.
Speaker 2: Because that's the other thing.
Speaker 4: When I don't know if he was at the Sales
Speaker 4: or Washington State when he was learning about.
Speaker 3: All of the oh he did the questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were learning about like that Rogers Ellis
Speaker 4: Rogers the sales when that guy was talking about it
Speaker 4: and he was like very interested in it.
Speaker 2: So like that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, now we have to learn about this
Speaker 4: guy's patterns and mindset so we can have information of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How wild because remember they interviewed the two students ad
Speaker 1: to Sales and the girl who went on a date
Speaker 1: with him, and he tried he was trying to tickle
Speaker 1: her oh yeah if she was like okay, stop and
Speaker 1: then when she pretended to be sick, he left and
Speaker 1: then wrote her a note that or a text that
Speaker 1: said that she had good, good birthing hips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have good birthing hips.
Speaker 3: Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: No, he's weird.
Speaker 4: Not once not what I've gone on a couple of
Speaker 4: dates here and there. Not once my looking at a
Speaker 4: girl's hip for birthing canal, I'm like, wow, you got
Speaker 4: a fat ass nice not.
Speaker 3: I think the hips are completely different.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that that is because I've
Speaker 1: had babies before.
Speaker 2: I'm learning.
Speaker 1: Okay, so can I tell you this thing that popped
Speaker 1: up just very quickly and then we'll move to like
Speaker 1: fun shit, this is fucking hysterical. So this was in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, but it like resurfaced on Instagram and I
Speaker 1: looked at the date and it had resurfaced like a
Speaker 1: week ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're not late, but we're late.
Speaker 1: We're late, but so is the rebel.
Speaker 3: Okay, this didn't get.
Speaker 1: This didn't get the appreciation that it deserved.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Woman in Arizona allegedly sent a man that she met
Speaker 1: on a dating site one hundred and fifty nine thousand
Speaker 1: text messages over a ten month period they had only
Speaker 1: met once.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm kind of obsessed with you.
Speaker 1: You're first of all one hundred and fifty nine thousand
Speaker 1: text messages. How many days sent that in the in
Speaker 1: my lifetime of having how many months ten month period?
Speaker 2: Mat a lot. How many days and ten months divide
Speaker 2: that by that? How many text is that a day?
Speaker 1: It's an insane amount, and you should feel I'm going
Speaker 1: to read what she was saying. Okay, I'd wear your
Speaker 1: facia in the top of your skull, in your hands
Speaker 1: and feet.
Speaker 3: So she's gonna do you know what or fashion.
Speaker 1: It's what your muscles are wrapped in. She wants to
Speaker 1: wear that, and then she's gonna put his skull on
Speaker 1: her head and where his.
Speaker 3: Hands in his feet. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then she proceeds to say I'd make sushi, and I'm
Speaker 1: reading verbatim.
Speaker 3: This is what it says.
Speaker 1: I'd make sushi out of your kidneys in chopsticks out
Speaker 1: of your hand bones. Oh god, oh, what would I
Speaker 1: do with your blood?
Speaker 3: I'd want to bathe in it?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: These are what she was finally arrested after she breaks
Speaker 1: into his home and takes a bath.
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with this woman.
Speaker 1: Why wait, I have to show you the picture. Have
Speaker 1: you seen the picture of her?
Speaker 2: Beauty is in the eyes of she would have She
Speaker 2: needs to be in the movie Smile she's terrifying.
Speaker 1: No, it's not like a it's not like a smile
Speaker 1: movie kind of smile. No, it's like actually like a smirk.
Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't get to his blood and fingers yet,
Speaker 2: but I will.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is that's obviously happened or is
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 2: Oh sh I'm gonna be honest. She doesn't look that nutty.
Speaker 4: Like usually when you see like somebody like that, you
Speaker 4: look at them and you're like, oh, you are a nutbag.
Speaker 2: She looks normal.
Speaker 3: I would say. She's very imaginative, very imaginative.
Speaker 1: What scares me with shit like this, though, is it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but she didn't actually do those things, but like let
Speaker 1: her out, and.
Speaker 2: Then there's gonna be a spiracy to yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be a day where we see this
Speaker 1: woman and she will wear why didn't we arrest her
Speaker 1: back then? And it's like, well, because she didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Then she just talked about it and it was like
Speaker 1: a little weird and she she got arrested for stalking.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not the messages. I guess you can say
Speaker 1: whatever you want, right, No.
Speaker 2: I mean she did everything besides saying I'm gonna kill
Speaker 2: you before I wear your facia your feet.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I think you could say something
Speaker 1: like that unless you actually do it or attempt to.
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing anyone can do, Macon.
Speaker 4: I mean I'd be like, hey, she sent me all
Speaker 4: of these, she broke in my house, is sitting in
Speaker 4: my tub?
Speaker 2: At what point is she not going to do everything
Speaker 2: she's written?
Speaker 1: The laws are very, very different. So let's just say
Speaker 1: where we live. If someone were to break into my
Speaker 1: house and they had no weapon and I protected the family,
Speaker 1: and let's just say they were in my closet, and
Speaker 1: I protect my family. Because you're in my home uninvited,
Speaker 1: I don't know you. I don't know what you're capable of.
Speaker 2: I think if you should have in the home, you're good.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: All I know is there's been so many robberies, as
Speaker 1: you guys know, like Teddy Mellencamp's ex husband's house. It
Speaker 1: may still be Teddy's house too was broken into last
Speaker 1: week with three men.
Speaker 4: There was need help maybe from John on this, but
Speaker 4: I forgot his full name. A Momoto on the I
Speaker 4: think he's like shortstop for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was broken into.
Speaker 2: He's the picture, Yeah, the picture. No one he got
Speaker 2: his house got broken into. But luckily people were home.
Speaker 4: People were home, and it was at night, so when
Speaker 4: they flipped on the lights, the robbers just left.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And then that couple that's had everybody in this area
Speaker 1: on high alert, where someone had called in and said, hey,
Speaker 1: my neighbor, someone just jumped over their gate. The cops come,
Speaker 1: they put a helicopter in the air, they see nothing.
Speaker 3: They're like, all is good. Four days past.
Speaker 1: They've got neighbors and family members calling saying I have
Speaker 1: not heard from my sister. I haven't heard from my
Speaker 1: brother in four days. Please someone do a wellness check.
Speaker 1: And there they were being robbed. They came home during
Speaker 1: or I guess they were being burglarized. They came home
Speaker 1: during the burglars and he had just broken into another
Speaker 1: home where he stole a gun, shot the couple.
Speaker 3: And they both died.
Speaker 2: So and that is the other.
Speaker 1: One of what I'm saying is you have to be
Speaker 1: very careful in la just like you can't if they're
Speaker 1: found in your closet. It's like, okay, well there's no
Speaker 1: weapons in your closet. They didn't have a weapon on them.
Speaker 1: This looks like your fault. I'm just gonna get wasped
Speaker 1: spray because you permanently blind the person.
Speaker 3: And it's such an accurate.
Speaker 4: Spray like shoots thirty feet.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm getting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it has a little nozzle on it, thirty
Speaker 2: feet spray.
Speaker 4: Don't when if you miss their eyes and like hit
Speaker 4: their face and stuff like, it's yeah, that's not gonna
Speaker 4: feel great. But speaking of wasps, oh, I don't know
Speaker 4: why we're on the topic.
Speaker 1: We've been watching a lot of like documentaries that we've
Speaker 1: been watchings.
Speaker 2: Don't wonder I'm so depressed.
Speaker 3: Even move on to the wall wasps.
Speaker 4: Wasps, Guys, wasps, let me get there are radioactive wasps
Speaker 4: in North Carolina, South South Carolina.
Speaker 1: They're moving though making They found this wasp's nest where.
Speaker 2: They used to make us nuclear They.
Speaker 1: Used to make the most important parts for nuclear bombs,
Speaker 1: and these wasps wasps, the radiation that was found was
Speaker 1: ten times what is allowed by federal regulation.
Speaker 2: My question is not about the wasps.
Speaker 4: Why were we allowed or what were we doing with
Speaker 4: ten times the nuclear.
Speaker 2: That we were allowed. I don't even know how to
Speaker 2: even put that in a sentence.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I don't know what the rules are for
Speaker 1: making weapons like that.
Speaker 2: But if we were only and I'm throwing out a number,
Speaker 2: if we're only allowed.
Speaker 4: To use ten nuclear XTA and we're using twenty, it's like, well.
Speaker 2: Should we kinda be in trouble over here? Or was
Speaker 2: it ten times more? Not too?
Speaker 1: It was ten times what is allowed by federal regulations.
Speaker 3: What I want to.
Speaker 1: Know is they say that there's there's no danger with
Speaker 1: these wasps, but I just like don't entirely believe that,
Speaker 1: because do wasps breed like I don't. I'm not super
Speaker 1: familiar with wasps, But what I do know is like,
Speaker 1: if they sting, I know they sting.
Speaker 2: So if I get stung by a radioactive wasps, what
Speaker 2: happens to me? You're fucked right?
Speaker 1: So for me, when you hear that there's a wasp's
Speaker 1: nest and they're radioactive, I don't entirely feel comfortable. I
Speaker 1: have to imagine that they've contained the situation that starts
Speaker 1: moving nationwide beyond that little area where they were making
Speaker 1: the parts for the nuclear bombs however long ago.
Speaker 2: That's not good.
Speaker 3: No, you'd have to go in with hazmat suits.
Speaker 4: I mean you gotta And is it just like one
Speaker 4: like that's the other thing that was so I see
Speaker 4: Now I got a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: Do wasps move nest to nest?
Speaker 4: Is there more that we're in there that were radioactive
Speaker 4: that moved to another nest? We're all gonna be radioactive?
Speaker 4: Hearing about cheese little whillakers.
Speaker 1: There was a w NBA game through a dildo.
Speaker 2: On the court that was me.
Speaker 4: Do you want to know the only thing that I
Speaker 4: wish it had a suction cup on the bottom and.
Speaker 3: Slop the wig? No, the wig.
Speaker 2: I'm into that is that a person's nickname the wig.
Speaker 4: One of the girls's ways fell off in the middle
Speaker 4: of the game, stops and ran to the locker room.
Speaker 2: They had to stop the game so she can get
Speaker 2: her wig up.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
Speaker 2: And then apparently they.
Speaker 4: Kicked a fan out because he was they were making
Speaker 4: fun of him for their wig falling.
Speaker 1: There was a guy I'm pretty sure, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be a dick, but you guys fucking suck. No,
Speaker 1: not all of you, but like, are you joking?
Speaker 4: I was watching like a fun podcast and it was
Speaker 4: a girl and a guy and she like turns in
Speaker 4: her and she goes.
Speaker 2: Everywhere. Fine, just grab it, put it on.
Speaker 4: So I did not see the wig, and I think
Speaker 4: we didn't see the wig because of probably that reason.
Speaker 3: We can I ask you something.
Speaker 1: What did Shane Gillis say at the s p oh?
Speaker 4: And he goes, we have and I'm just gonna make
Speaker 4: up a name here, I'll just say.
Speaker 2: And we also have four time NBA All Star Gg Burningham.
Speaker 4: Here everybody goes wild and he goes, well, Gg Birningham
Speaker 4: is my wife's my buddy's wife's name.
Speaker 2: So I know none of you watch NBA back or.
Speaker 3: WIBA is so messed up, but it's so true.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought that they had chap too.
Speaker 2: No, I would have clapped. I don't know they could
Speaker 2: have done it for NBA.
Speaker 1: And I'm so far out the names and unless you're
Speaker 1: watching ESPN on the regular, which even then they're talking
Speaker 1: about people who I don't know what the f is
Speaker 1: even going on It.
Speaker 4: Is incredible to see where I am today from where
Speaker 4: I was, like even five years ago, how much I
Speaker 4: was up on sports, Like I would watch it like
Speaker 4: I knew every player on every team. I would see
Speaker 4: him and be like, oh, he's kind of nice. I
Speaker 4: watched the NBA and I feel like Dad now, because
Speaker 4: Dad would.
Speaker 2: Come up and he'd be like, who the hell are
Speaker 2: you even watching? And I'd tell him. He'd be I
Speaker 2: don't know any of them. I don't care. And now
Speaker 2: that's me. I'm like, I don't know him, don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Easton, that's just called getting older.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing that you can do about that.
Speaker 1: You have things that are going to take precedence over
Speaker 1: I don't know, caring about what basketball player right just
Speaker 1: got traded to the Celtics.
Speaker 2: And now it's a struggle to watch college football.
Speaker 4: Why I'm getting so excited And I'm like, wow, I
Speaker 4: know I used to be that age.
Speaker 1: It's I'm gonna be thirty.
Speaker 2: Five this day. Yeah, doesn't it? Time goes by?
Speaker 4: I remember, like it was yesterday when like college football
Speaker 4: was coming up, and I you know, you're twenty one,
Speaker 4: twenty two, and you're like, this is it?
Speaker 1: Watching college basketball when I was like in that age group.
Speaker 1: That's how I created my roster. Yeah, I would like
Speaker 1: slide in the DMS of anyone that was hot. There
Speaker 1: was a time where I was talking to like a
Speaker 1: few USC players, a UCLA player, someone on Notre Dame
Speaker 1: the fuck LSU, like I'm ever gonna go to Louisiana.
Speaker 1: I'm freaking nineteen.
Speaker 4: Oh, Louisiana is so dope, though, you know, I would
Speaker 4: love to do a tailgate.
Speaker 3: Louis at LSU.
Speaker 2: Honestly, any team in the.
Speaker 3: SEC, they know how to do it right.
Speaker 2: They as a football that's football down there would be
Speaker 2: fun to go to.
Speaker 3: It's not as fun when you.
Speaker 4: Don't even stay. Stacey's over here saying it like Georgia.
Speaker 4: Another one that I want to Clemson. I do like
Speaker 4: a run down, like this huge hill, like the team
Speaker 4: it's like they're opening thing and it's like straight down
Speaker 4: and the whole team runs down it and like hits
Speaker 4: this statue of like the Clemson Tiger.
Speaker 1: But do you think that it would be as fun
Speaker 1: not drinking?
Speaker 2: No, it is.
Speaker 4: I have to assume it is, because the energy is
Speaker 4: so fun and like even if you're not drinking so
Speaker 4: many people are around where it's like I'll play beer
Speaker 4: pong for a sec even if I'm not I'll hold
Speaker 4: my diet coke or my cocin play with him, and
Speaker 4: you have my beer and then like once it's done,
Speaker 4: you can go over chat with somebody else about new stuff,
Speaker 4: throw some you know.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: It would be to put that on my bucket list.
Speaker 4: Would choose a team more fun to drink because then
Speaker 4: you're like alert for everything.
Speaker 2: But by the time there.
Speaker 1: Gonna we're gonna choose what game we want to go to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna people, and then I'm gonna post, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna have whoever's going to that tailgate. They'll take
Speaker 1: care of us, like when I mean take care of
Speaker 1: us because I'm not gonna know anybody we can.
Speaker 3: I'm great at venmoing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I would really love to do that,
Speaker 4: and it would really.
Speaker 2: Just uh be the Bee's Knees for.
Speaker 3: The bees fing knees.
Speaker 1: Housewives news that I was just brought up on. So
Speaker 1: did you hear that Brynn is indeed leaving?
Speaker 2: I did see that.
Speaker 1: I know how long ago that was because I've been
Speaker 1: having like guests, and you guys should see my.
Speaker 3: For you page now.
Speaker 1: It is great, it's it is great, but I almost
Speaker 1: feel a little guilty because I'm like, oh, my people
Speaker 1: on the pod like I should know this shit. But
Speaker 1: I'm like very much living in just like a different
Speaker 1: bubble and that may change. You have to remember, I've been,
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat out of the Bravo universe for a
Speaker 1: year and a half, so my algorithm is, you know,
Speaker 1: just where I am in life. So I looked.
Speaker 2: Up just as page. Just click a couple, they'll be
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: I was looking.
Speaker 1: I kind of enjoy the for you page way it
Speaker 1: is right now. It's like very kind and nice, and
Speaker 1: if I were to scroll and scroll for days, it
Speaker 1: would literally be nothing that I wouldn't want to see, right.
Speaker 1: But I looked up Roney because I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is happening? Like there was a time, you guys
Speaker 1: where I would turn on my TV and it was
Speaker 1: like I knew when every single season of Housewives was
Speaker 1: coming out. And now there's a lull because we've got
Speaker 1: two shows that are not They're just kind of like
Speaker 1: on pause. As Andy would say, Ronie and Jersey, No
Speaker 1: one knows what the hell is happening? Are we recasting, rebooting,
Speaker 1: getting rid of what people are saying? So Brin's gone,
Speaker 1: She's gonna, you know, go focus on herself, which I
Speaker 1: think is a really good idea. That was a really
Speaker 1: tough season for her, and I find when you have
Speaker 1: a tough season, it's best to just kind of like
Speaker 1: disappear for a minute.
Speaker 3: People forget, but just like go away for just a moment.
Speaker 1: And then I read that it's kind of being talked
Speaker 1: about that Ronie's not going to come back at all,
Speaker 1: and that to me is just devastating.
Speaker 4: But then again, tough season, like you just said, for Brnn,
Speaker 4: but I thought it was a tough season for everybody.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It wasn't good.
Speaker 4: And so maybe disappear for a minute, even the whole show,
Speaker 4: come back, bring a whole new cast the way you want.
Speaker 3: Can I say something a little?
Speaker 1: And I feel this way about a few shows, And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the one that I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: right now because I just don't want that.
Speaker 3: Don't don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want this show you to But there are
Speaker 1: people who I'm like, I dig you so much, You're
Speaker 1: so fun to hang out with. I have a lovely time.
Speaker 1: You fill my cup.
Speaker 3: You are boring for TV. I'm never bored when I'm
Speaker 3: with you. But you are not someone that translates onto
Speaker 3: me very well.
Speaker 4: I agree, and I feel like that that comes with a.
Speaker 2: Good cast though.
Speaker 4: But yes, and that's like yes, but it's so I
Speaker 4: mean just.
Speaker 2: I've been on reality TV a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Yes, they try to structure me into things do I listen?
Speaker 4: Never it's hard for me to look at like how
Speaker 4: you could be more honest or you're not that fun
Speaker 4: to watch, but like if you were to bring up
Speaker 4: things that are being around that people may not want out,
Speaker 4: you know, the.
Speaker 2: Backfire of bringing.
Speaker 1: That out, you know, I think it is beyond.
Speaker 4: And that's where I'm saying, you have to have a
Speaker 4: good cast where it's like they're all being honest and
Speaker 4: things like that, and it's.
Speaker 3: Beyond being honest.
Speaker 1: I think there is just and I don't even want
Speaker 1: to call it an IT factor because that just seems
Speaker 1: like if you're not interesting for TV, you don't have
Speaker 1: an IT factor. There's such a specific oomph that comes
Speaker 1: with someone who's on TV that you enjoy watching every
Speaker 1: single cast member from og Rony had it whether it
Speaker 1: was the smallest of an argument to like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Ramona Singer has had a husband who's been cheating on
Speaker 1: her the whole time. It didn't have to be this big,
Speaker 1: huge scandal. It didn't have to be everyone's being honest.
Speaker 3: That's a part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's just something that it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you're willing to share it all that you just have,
Speaker 1: and when you can get a cast where each person
Speaker 1: has that where it's like, you're just interesting. I could
Speaker 1: listen to you talk about the fucking weather and I'm interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm interested.
Speaker 1: They had that, and even watching Ultimate Girls Trip.
Speaker 3: I think they had three seasons.
Speaker 2: Total they had that.
Speaker 1: They did one with og rone and it was for me,
Speaker 1: the only one that was watchable. Okay, there's just something
Speaker 1: about those women who I find.
Speaker 3: And they're extremely interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like, you know, Ronie had a
Speaker 4: tough couple of seasons in my opinion.
Speaker 2: I mean I had to watch them with you.
Speaker 4: There's ones that I actually watch where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: interested in this, Like it's it's not my cup of tea,
Speaker 4: but I can at least get involved, right, Ronie like
Speaker 4: it was very tough to get involved for me. And
Speaker 4: there's my point of like bringing it back is like,
Speaker 4: maybe take a beat, get off. People will forget restage Ronie,
Speaker 4: look at Ronny as a person.
Speaker 2: Take your beat. Let people forget about the old cast
Speaker 2: in the new cast, in the comparisons. I just back.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand the reasoning behind why they wouldn't
Speaker 1: just bring the.
Speaker 3: Old cast back.
Speaker 2: Do they want to the cast?
Speaker 1: I think that they would in a heartbeat. I don't
Speaker 1: understand that move at all, and I you know it would.
Speaker 1: I think it would hold more weight what I say
Speaker 1: if I had hit shows left and right. So I'm
Speaker 1: just a girl's viewing.
Speaker 2: But is't that everybody in life?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It is.
Speaker 1: And they're really annoying, and I'm turning into that person
Speaker 1: where I'm like, let me just share my opinion with you,
Speaker 1: solicited advice and opinions.
Speaker 3: But that's how I feel. Bring them back on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you, you're probably.
Speaker 1: Not the only one that thinks that it was the
Speaker 1: greatest city to watch period. And I was talking to
Speaker 1: a friend of the other day and she's a housewife
Speaker 1: fanatic's she's high level in the business world, and you know,
Speaker 1: very intelligent women watch Bravo. It's just like from Rihanna
Speaker 1: to Chrissy Teagan to right exactly. People who live really
Speaker 1: insane a list lives watch these shows. So I was
Speaker 1: really curious what she felt about just this universe. And
Speaker 1: she said, the thing about old school Housewives is you
Speaker 1: were watching extraordinary women live ordinary lives. And then she
Speaker 1: made reference to another show that I won't mention, but
Speaker 1: she said, we're watching ordinary people live ordinary lives. It's
Speaker 1: just something needs to change. It's just very like who cares?
Speaker 1: And I was like, that is such an interesting take.
Speaker 1: She said, what flipped with Housewives is it's getting too
Speaker 1: glam It's getting too like the interviews, their their decked,
Speaker 1: their scenes hiking their decked, whereas.
Speaker 2: Like taking it back to like the Osborne type.
Speaker 1: Well, the Osbourne's is like that's when Reality TV. It
Speaker 1: was like the wall they showed up.
Speaker 3: There was no pulling people aside to.
Speaker 4: Me and s Sheckler when he was like eighteen the
Speaker 4: skateboarder had his like show and I was watching like
Speaker 4: snippets of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like to watch that.
Speaker 4: Old reality TV and then the new I'm like I'm
Speaker 4: kind of needing old reality TV back, right.
Speaker 3: It's much it's not produced. It's like they go in with.
Speaker 4: A camera on the wall. It's not a stable camera
Speaker 4: where they're like moving. It's like it's like you're watching
Speaker 4: the office. That's exactly what it is, and it feels
Speaker 4: authentic and like there isn't push of somebody walking in
Speaker 4: with like this theme song and then walking in for
Speaker 4: their big fight that they're already planned. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: this kid walked in and was brought up and now
Speaker 4: here we go.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Like when I would watch old school OC, they'd.
Speaker 3: Be like, we're getting.
Speaker 1: We're going on the boat that day, and they would
Speaker 1: just like make it work. Now, I can only come
Speaker 1: from what I experience when I've filmed. It's very well
Speaker 1: thought out and planned, and I don't like plans like that.
Speaker 1: I'm a kind of a last minute type of person
Speaker 1: where I'll decide day up if I feel like doing that.
Speaker 1: But that's just not conducive to the way reality TV
Speaker 1: is filmed.
Speaker 4: Now's I was just gonna say, like, I feel like
Speaker 4: they've put a like a certain prestige on reality TV,
Speaker 4: even the people on it where They're like, I have
Speaker 4: to present a certain way. This isn't I'm not now
Speaker 4: living my reality. I'm on a show, so I'm putting
Speaker 4: it up. It's like no, no, no, we want the
Speaker 4: reality of you. Yeah, you know, I don't need to
Speaker 4: see you going to get lunch with your friend at one,
Speaker 4: with your fifteen thousand dollars Chanel bag, with your you know,
Speaker 4: yeah Jimmy Choo shoes.
Speaker 2: I'm dressed up. But that's the thing. That's what we've created.
Speaker 2: I feel like, is you have to present yourself this way.
Speaker 2: We want to.
Speaker 1: Follow you, like where you go, like what do you do?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I go here. We can't get permits
Speaker 1: to film there, so we're gonna have you go here.
Speaker 1: It's like perfect, a place I've never been in my life.
Speaker 2: Sounds good, awesome because.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what the permitting process was like
Speaker 1: back then, but I assume it's like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: like a big deal.
Speaker 3: We're going to be on TV.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we could get an influencer to come
Speaker 1: here and pusst there.
Speaker 4: It is like people there, I could have a camera
Speaker 4: just picture this. I have the camera and I'm just
Speaker 4: recording you on YouTube Live or something like that, and
Speaker 4: you wanted to go into the space that you wanted
Speaker 4: to You can't get permits through Bravo.
Speaker 2: But because now it's a production.
Speaker 4: If you just walked in there and did it your
Speaker 4: own self and yeah, I'm just making a video, people
Speaker 4: are gonna go perfect.
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 4: But once you bring a production and then there's names
Speaker 4: and things and all of that, they're.
Speaker 2: Like, now we can It's like, well, we asked too much.
Speaker 2: Don't ask for permission. Go in and ask for it later.
Speaker 3: You know, they won't let you in with a full
Speaker 3: production team.
Speaker 2: Well there's where it's at.
Speaker 4: It's like, that's where I loved the Ryan Sheckler, even
Speaker 4: Robin Big. Yeah, just like one camera just moving around
Speaker 4: all fucked up. You know, it's like, I I'm a
Speaker 4: fly on the wall right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob just Big just broke a chair.
Speaker 4: Rob's on the other side of the bed laughing, and
Speaker 4: the camera's just going wild. It's not set to set.
Speaker 4: It's just funny. You're like, wow, this is great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I loved, And because of that,
Speaker 2: it wasn't.
Speaker 4: So you have to present yourself a certain way, or
Speaker 4: you have to look or you want to look to
Speaker 4: make you seem up and above people because you're on
Speaker 4: a reality show. Back then, it was like, here's my
Speaker 4: life and you're not. I don't need to act any different.
Speaker 4: And I feel like we've put that you have to
Speaker 4: you have to elevate, you need to be chaneled out,
Speaker 4: you have to have.
Speaker 2: Designer and it's like you don't you're choosing this.
Speaker 1: Please bring it back to the old days of I
Speaker 1: mean the differences, and then we're going to wrap it up.
Speaker 3: The differences.
Speaker 1: Those reality TV shows, they were based off of people
Speaker 1: who had other things going on, right, Not that housewives doesn't.
Speaker 1: There are some people who, like they were on soap operas,
Speaker 1: they have businesses. But for the average woman stepping into
Speaker 1: that sort of platform and limelight, if you don't get
Speaker 1: yourself teed up, then you're kind of isolating yourself from
Speaker 1: a lot of other opportunities. So if you show up
Speaker 1: and you look amazing, you're opening yourself up for partnerships,
Speaker 1: brand deals, all of these things, and you're not going
Speaker 1: to monetize the opportunity of being on such a heavy
Speaker 1: hitting platform.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, No, that makes sense too.
Speaker 1: Like Ozzy Osbourne and the Osbourne's They don't need to
Speaker 1: show up and be anything because.
Speaker 2: They work sho Rockstarck like the show is. The show
Speaker 2: was lucky to get them. They didn't need the show.
Speaker 3: Ryan Sheckler, what did he do.
Speaker 2: He was a professional skateboarder.
Speaker 1: And have to However, you probably saw him in a
Speaker 1: lot of gear that he was being sponsored by.
Speaker 2: I mean I only watched like a clip.
Speaker 4: I can't see it, but like yeah, I mean he
Speaker 4: was probably sponsored by like Vans and things, so he
Speaker 4: probably just wore like a lot of Vans and a
Speaker 4: lot of those things.
Speaker 2: But you're right, these these and.
Speaker 4: I feel like Ryan Sheckler started just because he was
Speaker 4: like his buddies were making like little videos and they
Speaker 4: were like, hey, we want to do this full yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was Robin Big another one, pro skateboarder,
Speaker 4: Fantasy Factory, like he was doing other things where it's
Speaker 4: like they didn't need the show, the show needed them.
Speaker 4: And now it's kind of reversed into the role of
Speaker 4: like you said, it's kind of like the show needs
Speaker 4: no one.
Speaker 2: We need the show, so we have to play this
Speaker 2: role to fit the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So what we've just learned is everybody
Speaker 4: get your camera at home, start making your own reality TV.
Speaker 2: And I think we've got things going.
Speaker 1: Oh no, could you imagine one's creating AI. They're like you,
Speaker 1: we need robots. People are learning that they can just
Speaker 1: like create content and make a living off of that.
Speaker 3: No, not really, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, let's say I have an appreciation for
Speaker 1: old school reality TV.
Speaker 3: I have no issue with the way Housewives is going.
Speaker 1: And my only gripe is like, I'm going to need
Speaker 1: New Jersey and New York that needs to be situated
Speaker 1: because that's a big gap that's missing, and you.
Speaker 4: Got to see where my point of view is coming.
Speaker 4: I'm bringing up strictly like dude shows.
Speaker 1: Love dude shows.
Speaker 2: Though I don't care, I love it.
Speaker 1: You guys, Thank you for listening to the most random
Speaker 1: episode of the Give Them All a podcast.
Speaker 3: I hope that you.
Speaker 1: As I I feel like my cup is Hella full, No,
Speaker 1: it's full.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you go hit the low notes. I know about deep.
Speaker 2: Heads up for the WASPS South area.
Speaker 1: I know, be careful, go get yourself.
Speaker 2: Some assback suits.
Speaker 3: I love you guys, I'll catch you next week.
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