1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Quick Prolepsie has the first Annimo or up the side 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: by forty thirty forty ten to five touchdown Johnston, there 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: is no off season for your Houston Texans. Game day 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: is every day. No, it's Texans, all Exans. What's up? Everybody? 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday Night edition, A beautiful Thursday night. Hopefully 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: you guys are out about driving somewhere, drive to get 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: into park. Maybe you're listening to us at the radio 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: dot Com app or through Texans App. But either way, 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: glad you are with me. I'm your host, John Harris, 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: football analyst and sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Can 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: be joined by Mark Vannimir later in the show. But 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: joining me right off the top is the General, the 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer John McClain from the Houston Chronicle. General, 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: how are you doing this evening, John? I'm doing well. 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I hope you are a tision Well, yeah, I gotta 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I gotta say pretty well, and I'm gonna say right 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: out the shoot, We've got a lot a lot to 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: get to right out of the shoot. I said this 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: last night. With the legal situation that's going on with 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: Sean Watson, that's not something that that any of us. 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: The Texas have put out statements. That's kind of the 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: philosophy we're following as well, actually required to follow, So 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: we're not really going to be discussing that situation. You 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: can listen to our guys on Sports Radia sixteen. I 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: think they've done a nice job kind of encapsulating all 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: that goes on. But we are going to talk football 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: in general. We talked to you last Thursday. We're heading 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: into free agency where I don't know we were four 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: or five days away. Just in general. Did you see 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: any of what the Texans we're doing with the two 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: big moves over the weekend and then about twenty five 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: different signings that they've had. I didn't expect to see 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: such a flurry of activity. Did you think this was 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen? No? I don't know anybody could expected Nikelsario 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: to make many deals. He's the contract negotiator as he 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: was in New England. He is wisely signing guys for 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: one or two year deals. He is now. One thing 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought he would work hard to get 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: as many compensatory picks in two thousand and twenty two 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: as possible, But he's signed a lot of players who 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: will fit into the compensatory formula, depending on if they 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: make the team out they play what the contract is. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: And I like the way he's gone about it. John. 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: He's not blowing money on a player that might be 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: used up by the time they're good again. I at 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: a station in Carolina called me and seeing man they'll 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: trade Christian McCaffrey. I's so, wait a minute, why would 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: it Texans one McCaffrey. He catches as he runs. He's 49 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna get beaten up for a couple of years. And 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: this is a rebuild. It is. Nobody likes to use 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: the R word, but that's what it is. Be honest 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: about it. You can tell by the moves that Nick 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: Assario is making that he considers this a rebuild. He's 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: at it, He's added depth, He's at a competition some 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: of these guys may start. He's really helped special teams 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: that are already good, and not just with Andre Roberts, 57 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: a premium returning guy, but with guys who can cover kicks, 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: and that was a strength anyway. I was really surprised 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: when he cut Brian Anger, because I think Anger has 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: been tremendous in his two seasons here, but he signed 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: so many players. I can't keep up with all of them. 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: And I thought at one point, John, I think I 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: said the sixteen I expected by the time the fifty 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: three man roster was set the first week of September, 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: more than fifty percent of the roster would be transformed. 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: And ordinarily it's about forty percent, and now I'm thinking 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: it could be sixty to sixty five percent of it 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: because there's more a free agency. There's the second wave 69 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and the third wave when here's the minimum taking or 70 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: don't play. So be Causario is going to sign more 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: right now. He has eight draft choices. You know, based 72 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: on the way they operated in New England, he's operating 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: on that the same way here. Give guys you think 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: you get for good value, and that's what they've done. 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: So man, you talk about not telling the players without 76 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: a program, Texans ought to be able to sell a 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: lot of programs next season to keep up with all 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: these new players on the roster. Yeah, no doubt. And 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: the two that obviously in general we have not the 80 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Texans have not announced this, but it's out there. It's 81 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: been you know, we give it the According to sources 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: notification if you will, because it hasn't you know, physicals 83 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: have to be passed, etc. But the two moves to 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: that actually happened. I think it happened on the same 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: day and it started before the legal tampering period, and 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: that those are the two trades. General wa go there, 87 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, I think being traded for Bernardrick McKinney. I 88 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: don't want to say, you know, stroke a genius or 89 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: anything like that, but I didn't think that Bernardrick was 90 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: coming back for this team in twenty twenty one. I 91 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: was surprised not only that they got something for Bernardrick McKinney, 92 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: but they actually got a player, a young player with 93 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: still some upside at a key position like four three 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: defensive and that sets the edge against the running can 95 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. What'd you think and what'd you make 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: of the deal for Bernardrick McKinney to get shock lost 97 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: and in return Bernardrick did not fit love He's just 98 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: four three defense mental linebackers, got a drop and cup 99 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: you can do that. Looks like they're not going to 100 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: resign to Roll Adams right now. I think Christen Kirks 101 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: and maybe Whitney merciless. If he had the pencil and 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: starters right now with Cunningham, that would be it. With 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm guest seeing Lawson many who hall in Blacklock as 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a starting alignment assuming Blacklock steps up in the four 105 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: to three. I remember late last season when we were 106 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: talking to Romeo Cornell about Blacklock, who had a very 107 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: disappointing roots season. He mentioned some one time about the system. 108 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: Kind of well, I think what he meant doesn't fit 109 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: what he does best. It's what they played, it's what 110 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: fit the others. So now in a system where you 111 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: get off the ball and get up the field, and 112 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: the fact he's going into a second season when a 113 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of rookies make big, big improvement, I think it 114 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: could be ideal for him. And Lawson was more suited 115 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: for a four three defensive end on the week side 116 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: than he was playing outside linebacker at Miami and dropping 117 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: sometimes he's almost two hundred and seventy pounds, it's hard 118 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: to run and cover. And when you're two hundred and 119 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: seventy pounds, So getting bernardric and I thought, I didn't 120 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: know if they would cut him or if they'd redo 121 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: his contract, but it would have been a tough fit. 122 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: The only way they could have kept him is it 123 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: say they want to move Cunning him to the weekside 124 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: outside linebacker where you got to run and cover and 125 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: leave Benardrick in the middle. And we all know his 126 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: strength was against the run. And one thing I've heard 127 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: about Shack Lawson, he plays a run hard and we 128 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: all know that run defense needs to improve after being 129 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: the worst Enfranchise history and the worst in the NFL, 130 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: which is one reason they're changing as much as they are, 131 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: because on defense, the only got one way to go. 132 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: So I like that trade a lot, and only time 133 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: will tell if it's a good one. After the season, 134 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson added at defensive end Vincent Taylor, MALIEK Collins 135 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: added at defensive tackle. John. I still don't think that's 136 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: enough on the defensive line. I think in the draft 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: they'll definitely look to potentially add even more size in 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: the middle to help against that run. I still think 139 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: losing DJ Reader is a killer. From two years ago 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: or from twenty nineteen, the other trade that was made John, 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: this one becomes really really interesting to me. First of all, 142 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I was a huge Marcus Cannon fan when he was 143 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: coming out of TCU. I love the guy. He has 144 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: traded four The deal is I think a swap of 145 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: fourth and fifth round picks and then a six round pick. 146 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. The key thing is Marcus Cannon's coming 147 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: to Houston to be part of this offensive line. He 148 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: opted out of twenty twenty. He's a cancer survivor. He's 149 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: thirty three years old, but he had a full year 150 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: of not taking eight hundred to nine hundred car crashes 151 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: throughout an entire calendar year. Now there's Larry Tunsil, there's 152 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: Titus Howard. Cannon played right tackle where Howard is right now. 153 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: The Texans do have a need inside at guard. After 154 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: signing Justin Britton, then releasing Zach Fulton, all that goes together, John, 155 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: how would you say the Texans are going to configure 156 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: that line for twenty twenty one? Ncessario was there. He 157 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: was a personel director when he was drafted, and he 158 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: beat cancer early in his career. He's a lucky had 159 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: to teach you in two thousand eleven, but he's been 160 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: a right tackle. I looked it up. He played guard once, 161 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: did not play well. They moved into right tackle. Now, 162 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: at this stage of his career. Maybe he could slide 163 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: back inside and it would be an easier transition. But 164 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, John having that season off and they 165 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: say he's worked like crazy and he's a big guy. Yeah, 166 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: he's six six and I don't know what Nobody has 167 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: any idea what he weighs right now, and except to 168 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Texans will when he passes the physical. But just adding 169 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the competition the offensive line is good. They've got some 170 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: big guys. You know, there's I think if you look 171 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: at some of the guys on this team, they do 172 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: have some talent. Offensive tackles are one. Zach Cunningham's another one. 173 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they think about Max Sharping, who 174 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: was impressive, is rookie and not play well last season. 175 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: They're banking on Justin Britt coming back from a knee injury. 176 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: But they've got to have more depth in the line. 177 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: You're to my defensive line. They're not through. I mean 178 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of free agents still out there. Nicko 179 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Sarrio is going to sign more and then he's going 180 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: to draft him. It's almost like, you know, get the 181 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: free agents, get more free agents. You don't have to 182 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: pay much for these guys. Agents are smart. You're most 183 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: guys are not going to break the bank with a 184 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: salary cap has fallen as much as it has. Best 185 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: to try to do it next year when it goes 186 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: back up really over the next two years. So I 187 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: think Cannon was a really good Addison didn't cause him 188 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: a player, and I'm eager to see what can Sario's doing. 189 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm really confident that he can be the architect of 190 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: this rebuild. It's not gonna happen one off season. It's 191 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: not gonna happen in two off seasons. But it's sure interesting. 192 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: There's a revolving door over there, and it is spending 193 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: so fast you better not get in the butt when 194 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: you go through it. I remember when the Seahawks John 195 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, and every year NFL Network does 196 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: America's Game recapping, basically an hour documentary talking about that team, 197 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: and for some teams they go back a little bit 198 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: in history to kind of tell the story of that team, 199 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: they need to go back a few years. And when 200 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll got there in twenty ten to Seattle with 201 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: John Schneider at that point as Jim, they set the 202 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: record for the most transactions in a particular year, and 203 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: essentially what they were doing was churning the bottom of 204 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: the roster, essentially trying to find the right mix of 205 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: guys that we're gonna end up making that roster. And 206 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: then that churn sort of stopped once they found the 207 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: right mix, added Russell Wilson to it, then win super bowls. 208 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: And I always think about that team in particular out 209 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: in Seattle that had all those transactions. Look, well, all 210 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: these transactions lead to a super Bowl in twenty twenty 211 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: one for the Texans. Boll. I love it, but I 212 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: don't think that's it is the goal. But I don't 213 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: know that that's where this is going to lead at 214 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: least this year. Down the road, could it? Sure? But 215 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: you need a few drafts, you need a few other pieces, 216 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: and obviously, when the salary cap does go up, hopefully 217 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: you'll be in good salary cap position to be able 218 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to make some moves when that does come to fruition. John, 219 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned Andre Roberts. He's one of the signings you have. 220 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Malie Collins, he was another defensive tackle that was added 221 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: to the mix. Is there a signing or two, John, 222 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: to you in your opinion that sort of stood out 223 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: to you like, WHOA. I kind of like what they're 224 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: doing with these decisions right here, with those signings other 225 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: free agents that they've signed through today. Um, who is 226 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: the guy that started for Washington last year? Oh, linebacker? 227 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: And yeah he started. I could see him competing for 228 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: a starting job. Terrence Brooks the safety if Malie Collins 229 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: played the way he did in his best chears with 230 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yes, they're taking chances on guys. And because 231 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: Sario knows they're not all gonna make it, he and 232 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: the personnel people know. I'm guessing if half of them 233 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: made the team, that would be good because it hasn't 234 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: cost them too much money, and it's worth the risk 235 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: of signing so many guys because you need so many help, 236 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: so much help, especially on defense. And so something I'm 237 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: curious about, you know, if they thought, now I'm not 238 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: talking about the legal issues with Watson, but if they 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: thought there was a chance Watson would be back here 240 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: as a player and they weren't going to trade him. 241 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: They get rid of Will Fuller, Darren Fells his joe 242 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: to receiver in the red zone, and Nick Martin is 243 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: good fred who is his center. So that's three guys 244 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: Watson was close to and so all of them have 245 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: to be replaced in one way or another. So the 246 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: tight ends and I know they made that trade, you know, 247 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: And this is the way it was with Gary Kesbiak, 248 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: and people complained he's bringing in too many guys from Denver. 249 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: Natie going to complain because Sario's bringing in too many 250 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: guys from New England. But we got to give him 251 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: a chance. But the player that we've been fascinated about 252 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: for two years flashed just a little last year. Well 253 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: this could help Holly Wearing get more opportunities because they 254 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: brought back Farrell Brown, who I thought in the role 255 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: he played doing different things. He was a terriftic addition, 256 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: and everybody thinks Bill and made nothing but bad moves, 257 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: And he did make some bad moves, but he made 258 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: some good ones as well. And I like Farrell Brown, 259 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: and everybody loves Jordan Nakeds. Last year, when the trading 260 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: deadline came, they had more people calling about Jordan Nakeds 261 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: than any player on the team. Wisely Jack easter Be, 262 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: who was interimgm he didn't make that deal. He kept 263 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Nakeds and I think that's gonna pay off and 264 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna get more opportunities, but right now they have 265 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: for maybe they'll cut Wearing. We don't know what Casario 266 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: thought about him when he was available in the draft, 267 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: and Casario scattered him thoroughly. Maybe he liked him a lot. 268 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: But that's one of the of the tight ends. That's 269 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: the one I'm most intrigued by. And I say that 270 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: he might get cut tomorrow. But there have been so 271 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: many free agents that he's signed. I can't keep I 272 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: can't keep track of him. In fact, one was just signed. 273 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: And John, if you asked me that same question to 274 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: ask you, hey, what's the signs would you be would 275 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: you be happiest with? I think it's the one. Yeah, 276 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the Desimond King signing. I mean from a standpoint of 277 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: when you look around the league now and you just 278 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: look around football, I mean, colleges just come out and 279 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: say it. They're running a stack three three five, they're 280 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: playing five dbs. NFL teams won't really say it, but 281 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: they're playing a nickel seventy to seventy five percent at 282 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: a time. You better have a nickel that can cover 283 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: on the inside. And Desmond King strikes me as somebody 284 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: that has done it before. Oh and by the way, 285 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: he's one heck of a return guy too, if you 286 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: need him to be. And they've got I think two 287 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: or three guys that they've brought in, Andre Roberts being 288 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: one that could be a return guy. John I kind 289 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: of like the Desimond King signing a lot actually to 290 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: come in and help this secondary. He is still just 291 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty six, I think. And when he was with the Chargers, 292 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: people are really excited about it. He looked good. And 293 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: then last Jerry ended up I think Tennessee tennant. He 294 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: was in in a seat. But any corner they get 295 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: is good. Terrence Mitchell, I don't care who else it is. 296 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: They got to get some talent there. They got Bradley Roby, 297 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: and they got Kean Crossing and Cornbell Armstrong and Ronon 298 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Hargraves and now Dasmond King and about three or four 299 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: other guys they've signed. So there's gonna be a lot 300 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: of competition. And when they make their first peak in 301 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: the third round, and it's gonna be a position that 302 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: they need, they're gonna say they both take the best athlete. 303 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna take the best athlete and a need position 304 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: and I've thought now for a while it would be 305 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: a pass rusher, whether it was an outside guy or 306 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: somebody who could penetrate up the middle or cornerback, because 307 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: they have such a need at both those positions. And 308 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: think about the competition right now with all these new 309 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: guys and safety just as safety, Justin Reid, Lonnie Johnson, 310 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: Rig Murray, A. J. Moore, Terence Brooks, and I'm sure 311 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: there's more. And so I can't wait for the offseason program. 312 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: Hopefully there will be an off season program, but it 313 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: looks like we will have preseason games. I have hated 314 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: preseason games forever, especially when I started there were six 315 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: of them. But now without preseason games last year and 316 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: such a roster turnover engineered by Nick Serio that David 317 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: Culley and his coaches have to make sure they know 318 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: how to utilize these guys. I'm pumped about camp. I'm 319 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: pumped about preseason to see how they are. And they'll 320 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: still have two fourth round picks. They won't have the 321 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: one they got from Arizona that went to New England 322 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: and to Marcus Cannondale, but they'll have New England's if 323 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: somebody they got a four from somebody new England didn't 324 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: give them theirs because it's hiring Arizonas. But so I'm 325 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: guessing it'll be on defense. I don't think. I still 326 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: think they're gonna sign another direct. You know they're gonna 327 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: add receivers. You can get receivers cheap. This is there's 328 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: so much depth and receiver and free agency in a 329 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: draft you don't need to be spending money on them. 330 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: And that's why Will Fuller had to take a one 331 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: year dale and why guys like Kenny Galla Day and 332 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: jesusmand Schuster thought they were going to clean up and 333 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: they're not that receiver market. That first day when no receiver, 334 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: no big name receiver, after Godwin and Robinson were franchised 335 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: by the respective teams, I felt like, man, okay, we'll 336 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: see what man, this opens things up. Teams are really 337 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: going to come out to these receivers, and there was 338 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: nobody signed. I think for the first two days. John, 339 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: I thought, oh boy, these receivers are about to get 340 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: a root awakening for the market they think is out there, 341 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: but really is it? And also, like you said, adding 342 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: on to that, this group of rookie wide receivers that's 343 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: common is as good as it was last year. So 344 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what, as they say, bring on the cheap 345 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: labor as a post too. I gotta pay ten million 346 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: dollars for a guy that I'm not totally sure. I mean, 347 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Miami just went with a one year deal with a 348 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: guy we watched for five years, not even play sixteen 349 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: games in a year. So you know, Miami's given up 350 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: eight figures a year to be able to do that. 351 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: But that ninety billion dollars contract must have been a 352 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: site to see for those those guys. All those guys 353 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: that signed one year deals are going, oh yeah, I'm 354 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna get paid. I'm gonna get paid next offseason. General, 355 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: what did you think was the most I don't know 356 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: if you've got a chance to look at all that 357 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: that TV deal stuff, but was there anything that stood 358 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: out to you most about the TV deal that was like, WHOA, 359 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: I didn't see that happening. Uh No, we knew about Amazon, 360 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: we knew about the Thursday Night package, what was being considered. 361 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: And I think that that's why everybody wants to know 362 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: in an NFL franchise, because even though they lost, they 363 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: didn't lose money last year, but they took a bath 364 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: in home games for as for reasons about the pandemic. 365 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: But they make a fortune in TV money. Now. It's 366 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: not all of a sudden that they're going to go 367 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: from two hundred ninety five million a year to five 368 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: hundred ninety five million. It will be stair steps the 369 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: way it always is. But man, to have that, to 370 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: know as an NFL owner that you have that kind 371 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: of network security for another eleven years, that's great. And 372 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: if you're going to buy an NFL team, say can 373 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: say the McNair family all of a sudden wanted to 374 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: sell people line up because they know from that contract, man, 375 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: we're going to get this money over the next eleven years. 376 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: So I can give you three billion dollars. That just 377 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: made the value of the franchises go up even more. 378 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: And the next owner, whoever it is, that sells. My goodness, 379 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: we thought that, Dave Tepper and Caroline. I think whether 380 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: you pay two point three something like that, sex wouldn't 381 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: be three billion, It would be amazing, unbelievable. General, thank 382 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: you so very much. I know you got fighting Baylor 383 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Bears basketball on your mind coming up very very soon. 384 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: What you got going on in the Chronicle this week. 385 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: We've got columns, we've got podcasts, we've got stories, a 386 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of Texans of cores, rockets, astros in sea and 387 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: since you brought it up, I'll tell you this sick them. 388 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: There you go, John, Thank you very much. There is 389 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: John McClain, the Hall of Famer coming up next. It's 390 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: our Hall of Famer, my boss, the Voice of the Texans, 391 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Mark Vanomer joins us. We'll talk about that TV deal 392 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: as well. 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Well back 427 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: this Thursday night edition of Texans All Access from the 428 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host tonight, John 429 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: Harris Football House and sell a reporter. And it's either 430 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: myself or my guest. Sometimes I'm the guest. He's the host. 431 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: Was Pala voice the Texas Lavas of the Texans. I 432 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: don't know exactly to say the Spanish. I think I 433 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: got close, but I saw today posted in Spanish. I 434 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: was like, that's pretty cool to love us. It is 435 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: Mark Vannimir Mark, how are you doing? I'm sure I 436 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: butchered that guy only got through two years of Spanish, 437 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: so that's probably the reason why how are you? And 438 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: my friend? I'm doing great. I think it's love vos. 439 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: I think it's old sound, but it's close enough Johnny. 440 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: And you know, I always thought, well, wait a minute, 441 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: why is it like la and not l like it 442 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: to be el vows that sounds better than me. But yeah, hey, 443 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't be picky you know, hey, Karen carpent Or 444 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: would have said I want love us because she had 445 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: one of the greatest female pop voices ever. Should I 446 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: go down the top ten? Now, we'll do that for 447 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: another show. Okay, well I want to ask you this 448 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: just real facets. We're on music. H huh. All right, 449 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: So I sent you a link I don't know about 450 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: a month maybe not about to go about two, three 451 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago of this guy. He's got a YouTube channel 452 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, he's a musician of some sort, and so 453 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: he did like all these countdowns, and so there's one 454 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: that I haven't yet gotten all the way through, but 455 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: it was the top twenty keyboard openings to a song 456 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, so he didn't do that. He's 457 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: more a guitar bass player, so he got another pianist 458 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: to come in, or keyboard guy to come in. This 459 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: guy's phenomenal because he plays a lot of songs I 460 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: haven't got all the way through, and some of that 461 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: they've got from ten to eleven to twenty are almost 462 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: better than some that I've heard earlier. But I haven't 463 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: gotten to the top five yet. In your opinion, the 464 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: what do you think is the best keyboard intro to 465 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: a song. I have one. I don't know that I've 466 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: heard it yet. I have one. You know. It's funny 467 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: because the guitar one that you sent me, I could 468 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: go on and on, right, Yeah, the keyboard I got 469 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: to think about a little bit more. But you know, 470 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: I think about all the great ones like Piano Man 471 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: by Billy Joel. You know, I'm thinking, you know, it 472 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: just popped into my head. I don't think it's the 473 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: top five one, but Cold as Ice by four things, 474 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it hits it hard. You know, there's so 475 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: many good ones and people are gonna be killing me, 476 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: but you put me on the spot, evil woman l Yeah, Dan, Dan, Dan, 477 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: you know that that kind of stuff. And I can 478 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: play those two, by the way, because I can fake piano. 479 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, like, well, you play guitar, 480 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: you play I can fake piano for about seven minutes 481 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: and that's it. That's all I got is seven minutes 482 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: of piano material. I can't even fake piano. You'd have 483 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: to take all the keys away or I don't know, 484 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: there'd be no way. The one I was thinking about 485 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: was um uh that the Separate Ways from Journey. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, 486 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: that was a good Yeah, that was the one that 487 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: bumped into my head. So hopefully that'll be I think 488 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: in the top eight or so. But I was curious 489 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: because I just started that. I was like, oh, I've 490 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: been Marko no um, so yeah, there's some there's some 491 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: good ones there. Anyways, Mark, we have playing and talk 492 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: to us. We talked to the general in the first segment, 493 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: and we I mean we hit on everything because it's 494 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: been a week since we talked to him, and my goodness, 495 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: seven days in the NFL and all the things that 496 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: have happened, especially here in Houston, holy smokes. But today 497 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: I want to start here. Texans release two veterans, Darren 498 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Fells and Brian Anger. A. Your level of surprise, a 499 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: shock at that, and b just your overall thought about 500 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: what those two guys brought, even in short amount of 501 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: time being here with the Texans. Well, I think they 502 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: brought both brought a nice contribution to this organization. And 503 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: we've seen punting not go as well as it could. 504 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: This is an underrated skill sometimes. You know, it's funny 505 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: because when at times when Texans punting has been a 506 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: little shaky, I've thought why can't we get one of 507 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: those guys. You know, we've been playing a certain team 508 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: some week and somebody's booming sixty yarders with you know, 509 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: the appropriate hang time and hanging punts inside the ten 510 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: and I'm jealous. But Anger didn't make me jealous of anybody. 511 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Anger was real good here. You know, we were boiled 512 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: with Lechler for a long time. Trevor Daniel had some moments, 513 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: but he also had some moments he wanted back right. 514 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: You know. Matt Turk was pretty good. You know. It's 515 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: funny though, because when Chad Stanley putted here, and I 516 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: loved Chad and he was pretty solid and you know, 517 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: his good ball handler on holds and things like that, 518 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: and him and Chris Brown once ran the option on 519 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: a play that was kind of fun and that just 520 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: stands out in my mind. But when we got like 521 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a Matt Turk in after having Chad Stanley for a while, 522 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, this is different. It's different, And then 523 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: you get a Lechler and it's very different. You know, 524 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: he's got control of the ball. So I felt like 525 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Anger was real good. But I know they saved some 526 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: money and I'm you know, you just better get somebody John. 527 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, I told my story many times about being 528 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: at the combine and watching punning tryouts, and that was 529 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: the revelation I had that day, which was, Oh, this 530 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: is why Putter's last so long. This is hard to do. 531 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: These college guys trying to do this pro stuff not 532 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: as easy as you would think, especially in college when 533 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: they do all the rugby punting that they don't want 534 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: to see in the NFL as much. So I was 535 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: not surprised, but because it happens, but you better replace 536 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: him with somebody good and felzy. Look, we love Fells. 537 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Played pro basketball for six years and we've interviewed him 538 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: plenty of times over there. I love talking to him 539 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: about stuff like that, his life, his experiences and oh yeah, 540 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: holds the all time tight end TD reception record for 541 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Solid performer. I'll miss him, but look, 542 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust Nick, and Nick we trust with this 543 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: because it wasn't like going to break the bank to 544 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: keep Felsy. He had a situation here where he could 545 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and make that deal for Ryan Izzo as 546 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: he read the reports today, and let's just see how 547 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: it unfolds. I think they have a plan and it 548 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: should be just as good, if not better, as anything 549 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: they've had lately at that position group. I remember when 550 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: Fells came into our studio and we were cycling through 551 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: guys I think a man been during Ota offseason time 552 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: and we had just had or Jordan Thomas was just 553 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: in the Fells was coming in behind him, and Jordan 554 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Thomas is like, yeah, we joke with Yog about being 555 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: the right right tackle or left left tackle, and then 556 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: we asked Fells about it and he's like, yeah, I 557 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: know what my role is. I know what it's supposed 558 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: to be. And then the guy went out and set 559 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: a record for tight ends scoring touchdowns in twenty nineteen, 560 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: it was and he maybe we should have had one 561 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: more but he came up like three or four inches 562 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: short against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you know, but we 563 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: remember for the one against the Raiders that that put 564 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: us the lead in that one, you know, the one 565 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: against the Falcons where he went over the guy's head 566 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: and that was like was he was almost dunking on 567 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: him and then he just kind of held it up 568 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: there and his safety couldn't be So he was here 569 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: for you know, two seasons but he will be I think, 570 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: I think he will be remembered for a long time 571 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: just for his contributions, and I think for the guys 572 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: that continue to play that were near him no respect 573 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: his you know, his captain like behavior, you know in 574 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: that meeting room, and the veteran voice that he brought. 575 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: I think those two guys will be will be missed. 576 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I there's there's a big part of me, if not 577 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: all of me, that thought, And I don't know that 578 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna see Darren back Anger. I thought, I don't know, 579 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: because to your point about punting, man, you'd you'd really 580 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: like to have somebody that you could absolutely count on 581 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: because you take it for granted until you don't have it. 582 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that always kind of worries me 583 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: about punting. And it was kind of like with Lechler. 584 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: When Leckler was gone, you know, Trevor came on and 585 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: the first two games that year he didn't punt well 586 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: and it may may have cost us in the in 587 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: the Tennessee game in twenty eighteen in Week two, but 588 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: then he started kind of getting into groove and all 589 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden he became a pretty nice asset. Anger 590 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: came along and it was like whoa, wow, this is 591 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: this is what we've been missing since Leckler left. So um, 592 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: those two guys will will definitely be missed. You mentioned 593 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Is and him coming over from the New England Patriots. 594 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: That now makes the tight end room Callie Wearing, Wearing, 595 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: Jordan Nakins, Ryan Iszo and I don't oh, and uh, 596 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: Paul Quizenberry, I think that's all the time. I think 597 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: that's all the tight ends. I know you probably want 598 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: to bring somebody in as a you know, a roster 599 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: body in some sense for training camp, etc. But Mark, 600 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: do you think they'll dip their toe into the draft 601 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: at tight end or do you think that's completely out 602 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: at this point? Wait? Did you say Pharaoh though? Did 603 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: you include and Pharrell Brown Man? I forgot about Farrell Brown? Yeah, 604 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: akings Phararell Brown, Callie Waring, Brianzzo and Paul Quizber's five. 605 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody comes in 606 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: at that point. Yeah, I don't. I don't know either. 607 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: And you've said many times that it's not a deep 608 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: tight end class, which also could mean later in the 609 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: draft maybe there's somebody a pickup that just fell through 610 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: the crack and he could end up making your team. 611 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Because we've always talked about this position group as the 612 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: mystery slash surprise position group where you do get things 613 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: like Farrell Brown comes in. For instance, when he got 614 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: on the roster, I thought, all right, what's he gonna 615 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: do because we have these other guys and look, I mean, 616 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: we want to see Wearing do something. And I know 617 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of tight end. That's a different 618 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: brand of tight end you're talking about, But I thought 619 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: we have enough there, and all of a sudden, Farrell 620 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: Brown is making plays. You're thinking this, Farrell Brown looks 621 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: pretty good and clearly they feel that way too, and 622 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Nick knows Ryanzzh well, so he feels like he can 623 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: help this football team. So I do think they're okay. 624 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: I want to ask Jordan Nakens how he felt about 625 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: last season and his performance and was anything wrong. Was 626 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: he banged up? He probably won't say it, but he 627 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: just didn't look quite the same down the stretch. Some 628 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: of the numbers look pretty decent in some of the games, 629 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: but I expected him to take a bigger leap in 630 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Now, maybe it was just a situation where 631 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to happen all right, based on everything 632 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: that was going on with the running game and whatever else, 633 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: Watson throwing the ball to these receivers. But we'll see. 634 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: I think Aikin's has a lot of potential here. Eager 635 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: to see the rest of it. But you just brought 636 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: up a named Jordan Thomas, who I know we saw 637 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: with the Patriots for fifteen minutes last year when they 638 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: visited at RG Stadium, and we thought that he might 639 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: turn into something for this team. It's just it's a 640 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: strange position group. Like we've said many times, I'm eager 641 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: to see how Ryan Izzo works out. I think he 642 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: could help the team. But as far as the upside goes, 643 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: Aiken still has more. You know, there is more room 644 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: to the top of the cup there, and clearly with 645 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: Wearing there's a top, you know. So Wearing being a 646 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: third round draft choice, I know the current regime didn't 647 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: draft him, but I'm really looking to see what they 648 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: think of him, and I think they're dying to get 649 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: him out there on the field to have a look 650 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: at what a third year Wearing could possibly look like 651 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: for this team, because he really didn't get a much 652 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: playing time, and you need a little bit more development, 653 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: well a lot more development there, but a little bit 654 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: more exposure to see what the potential is. So we'll 655 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. I know a lot of 656 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: people will be watching the Texans on TV this year, 657 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: watching Kalla wearing. And that leads me to the news 658 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL that a ninety billion billion dollar deal 659 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: struck over the next nine years actually starts in twenty 660 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: twenty three, I think is when it comes into fruition 661 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: ninety billion dollars deal mark. Here are some of the 662 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: high points. Amazon exclusive home of Thursday Night Football, Disney's 663 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: ABC gets two Super Bowls twenty twenty six twenty thirty. 664 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: ESPN is retaining Monday Night Football, and after week twelve, 665 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: they have the opportunity to flex games from that week's 666 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: Sunday slate, giving them more attractive games. ESPN ABC will 667 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: feature three weeks some Monday Night Football doubleheaders and broadcast 668 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: select Saturday games. ESPN also gets a second playoff game 669 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: to their slate, with one Division Round game and a 670 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: Wildcard game. ESPN Plus will have exclusive access to one 671 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: International Series game each season. NBC retains Sunday Night Football 672 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: and a select number of games available exclusively over the 673 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: streaming platform Peacock. Fox and CBS both retain their broadcast 674 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: at NFC Nancy Sunday Afternoon packages, respectively. Mark, it's a lot. 675 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Well, NBC Sunday Night Football is 676 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: the number one show on television, so no surprise there. 677 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: And I think it's a tremendous deal for NBC and 678 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: it always has been. I think economically that's by far 679 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: the best package. But ESPN Disney, I believe that they 680 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: weren't happy with a lot of the matchups they've been 681 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: getting on Monday Night Football. They've gotten better in recent years, 682 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: but now they get the double headers, they get more 683 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: preferential treatment obviously with the flex scheduling capability, and to 684 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: have Super Bowls is monumental. So great for them, but 685 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: they're paying more than anybody. Now Amazon Thursday Night. This 686 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: is intriguing. Yeah, Amazon is gonna have your Thursday night 687 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: football game. Now, let's be clear, if the Texans are 688 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football, it'll still be on a local affiliate. 689 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: Everybody gets to bid. ABC thirteen is our partner for 690 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: the preseason games. I know they'll want to bid for that, 691 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: but they have network responsibilities. We'll see how that plays 692 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: out with them. It's been in other places too, when 693 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: the Texans have had a Thursday night game, So that 694 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: to me, the Amazon one is really intriguing because these 695 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: streaming services, this is the cutting edge of everything. This 696 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: is old school broadcast programming. You're getting on a streaming 697 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: service because there are more eyeballs than anything on the NFL. 698 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the number one show is NBC Sunday Night 699 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: Football Thursday. I have football on Fox is still a 700 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: top ten show, top five show, right, So that's what 701 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: Amazon sees. Let's bring the eyeballs to Prime. We're gonna 702 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: force more people to buy Prime. This is you know, 703 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: if you don't like Amazon, you don't like this deal 704 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: because this is definitely helping them get more eyeballs, more 705 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: people to order their service. And they're going to promote 706 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: all their other shows that they have on Amazon, the 707 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: Marvelous Missus, Maizel or whatever else they have heavily during 708 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: NFL football so more people watch it. This stuff intrigues me. 709 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: I love reading about it. I'm wondering how they're gonna 710 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: do the talent. I haven't read that yet, but This 711 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: is going to change the way you watch football to 712 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: have a primetime game exclusively on streaming. Get ready, it's 713 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, no doubt. Then there was one of 714 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: their little nuggets that came out apparently, now this has 715 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: not been confirmed, but apparently the NFL will also move 716 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: Sunday ticket from Direct Tv to ESPN Plus. So there's 717 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: a lot of talk in the last probably month to 718 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: six weeks about ESPN. Hey, they want more with their 719 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: Monday Night package. Well, and Disney got it with the 720 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: ABC getting two Super Bowls, getting an additional playoff game, 721 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity to flex Monday Night games late in the season, 722 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: and then to get the Sunday ticket package over to 723 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: ESPN Plus from Direct Tv. I would say it's a 724 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: pretty banner day for Disney slash ABC slash ESPN as well. Yeah, 725 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: ESPM plus to have all that stuff is huge. The 726 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: Direct TV package, you know, we all knew that that 727 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: was going to change hands at some point soon. Now 728 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: it's available to everybody. I know, direct TV is you know, 729 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: available to everybody. But if you had Axfinity, you're like, 730 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm not going to cancel my affinity for Direct TV 731 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: just to have the Sunday ticket package, so this helps. 732 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens with red Zone, Johnny. I 733 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: gotta get my red zone the Texans, and we've had 734 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: so many weekends where they're playing on a Thursday or 735 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: a Monday or whatever, or a Sunday, and you need 736 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: red zone injected into your veins on a Sunday afternoon. 737 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: You just gotta have it. So we'll see how that 738 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: works out. The NFL network puts together that programming with 739 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: Scott Hanson, etc. It's just a fantastic broadcast exercise, that 740 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: whole thing is. But I think, look, it's huge money. 741 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: All the other sports are watching that. The NFL basically 742 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: doubled its money with its next layer of TV contracts. 743 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: I remember about five years ago people were wondering, are 744 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: enough people are gonna be watching TV? Will it matter? 745 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: Are the ratings? Are the rates gonna go down? Oh baby? 746 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: More money for everybody. The players make out, the owners 747 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: make out, and I think the customer is served because 748 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: there are more options to watch. Yeah, no doubt. And 749 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: all those players that signed one year deals or in 750 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: the process of signing one year deals are linking their 751 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: shops at what could be available next year. Mark, I 752 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you for jumping in. We'll talk to you tomorrow, 753 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you. Johnny there he as Mark vandermir 754 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans. We'll be back. We'll go 755 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: around in the NFL because there's plenty happening, including a 756 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: new home for will for that's next on Texans to access. 757 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: Don't miss a single thing on your favorite team. Follow 758 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Houston Texans. 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We got want follow seging 777 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: me this Thursday edition. I'm glad I said Thursday. Becau 778 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: almost said something else on like Wednesday. I've totally lost 779 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: on my days, especially if I've been hosting a week 780 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: Mark will be back tomorrow to finish up the weekend. 781 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: It has been, buddy, it has been a wild, wild 782 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: week in and around h Town. I'm your host, Sean 783 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: Harris Football All Silo Report are glad to be with you. 784 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: In the last hour, the Texans made another signing, this 785 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: one I actually like five. Brandon and I were talking 786 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: about turning to break. You asked me whether I whether 787 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: I liked the Desmond King signing, and absolutely, Desmond King 788 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: or Mike Hilton, those are one of the two guys 789 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: I wanted at Nickel. Now, Hilton ended up getting paid 790 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: by the Bengals. I think it was let's say paid. 791 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: PFF did their top one hundred free agents and they 792 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: came up with a projected salary and they had three 793 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: years twelve million for Hilton, I think ended up being 794 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: four for twenty four. So he got paid and he's 795 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: worth it. He is damn good. He's the smallest guy 796 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: in the field, but he is damn good. But he's 797 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: one of the Bengals. But I didn't even think Desmond 798 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: King would end up being an option, and I'm glad 799 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: that he is. And as I mentioned to John McClain, look, 800 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: you've got to have a nickel guy now in the NFL. 801 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 1: If you don't forget it, you'll they will Quarterbacks posing 802 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: offenses will find, oh man, that nickel can't cover anybody 803 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: your toast. And I think there is a distinct skill 804 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: set between inside guy and outside guy. I think Vernon 805 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: Hargraves and Desmond King, although they were all American corners. 806 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: As I'm putting up my fingers air quote, you can't 807 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: see in college they're inside guys. Now they're nickel guys. 808 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: Now they're nickel. And and those two I think will 809 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: be in competition John Reid will be in competition for 810 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: that inside spot. So they've got to find some outside corners. 811 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,439 Speaker 1: And the more outside corners they end up finding, then 812 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: they will be better served by leaving those guys on 813 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: the inside, because last year, I think Vernon had to 814 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: play outside the whole year. That's not where he fits anymore. 815 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: That's not that's not his fit. His fit his inside. 816 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: So it is Desmond King and Desmond King return, punts, kicks, 817 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: whatever you want him to do. He's dynamic with the 818 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: pall in his hands. The Titans found that out first game. 819 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: He picked up Fumbell, took it to the house, and 820 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: now he's a text In one year, three and a 821 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: half million dollars. Former text In Nick Martin is now 822 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: a Las Vegas Raider after Rodney Hudson was traded, the 823 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: All pro slash pro bowler traded to the Cardinals. The Raiders, 824 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean signing Nick Martin great, I mean that's whatever 825 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: they need to do. That's that's great, But the drop 826 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: off from Rodney Hudson and Nick Martin is pretty severe. 827 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: So congratulations and Nick for getting a deal, But that 828 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: drop off, I mean, yeah, they get a third round 829 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: in return. But Rodney Hart Hudson's gonna go to the 830 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl out with the Cardinals. Trust me on that. 831 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: Now that Corey Lindsley is out with the Chargers in 832 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: the AFC and you got Hudson over the NFC, he'll 833 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: end up going to a Pro Bowl, guaranteed. Rodney Hudson 834 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. But your Texans signed Desmond King today. 835 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: Things stay pretty active in all things that are going 836 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: on throughout the NFL. Will have that and then some 837 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: for you tomorrow. Big thanks to Mark the General, John 838 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: McClain to Brandon who's doing a great job in studio. 839 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: Great friend of doing an excellent job. You guys are 840 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: great friends as well and great listeners. Appreciate it. We'll 841 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: see tom arow everybody, and as always, go Texans. This 842 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten. 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