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Speaker 2: Here's this week's episode, Welcome In.

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Speaker 3: Welcome In. It's a Late Round Fantasy football show sponsored

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Speaker 3: by DraftKings. David Kitchen here alongside JJ, Zachar Eason and JJ.

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Speaker 3: You were on vacation last week, but it's I don't know,

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Speaker 3: It's like the stats were polling up against you.

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Speaker 1: This is the first like normal day that I've had

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Speaker 1: is Wednesday that we're recording this. I not only got

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Speaker 4: Uh, and that's why I'm a little congested.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of on the tail end of it.

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Speaker 1: But got sick. We got home. Or if you've listened

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Speaker 1: to becoming a Best Ball.

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Speaker 4: Bro, you heard this.

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Speaker 1: Our upstairs ac was completely broken, which is where my

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Speaker 1: So that episode that you guys listened to on Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: Dripping sweat by the end of it.

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Speaker 3: It, I mean, and I was getting nervous because that's

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Speaker 3: where your guest bedroom was located. And that's right, That's

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Speaker 3: why I'll be flying to you know, to the Camp

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Speaker 3: JJ and then we're going to be road tripping to

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Speaker 3: the Fancy Foble Expo this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if anyone's there, say hello. Hopefully Harold Fannon's mom

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Speaker 3: This year, I don't think I thought about this, remember,

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Speaker 3: the the NFL. Well, we were in talks with the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and like part of it was the scroller and we

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Speaker 1: Well we get it this year? Will that be happening?

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Speaker 3: All right, Harold Fannon's mom was actually watching. That's a

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Speaker 3: good point, her son play, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago. The problem with like, so the expo's

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Speaker 1: earlier this year. It's usually the week after the Hall

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited because I know there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: Great like those when you think your kid, like, where's

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Speaker 1: I got someone in chat saying, does the J and

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Speaker 1: I just always say that if I ever had a child,

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Speaker 3: As long as they don't put on your fmx BO

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Speaker 1: That's true that it was on my my my lanyard

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we have some things to get to

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Speaker 3: as far as dues and notes. But before that, go

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Speaker 4: Yes, I already know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't written all the blurbs yet for what I'm

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Speaker 3: Definitely is exciting and one of the guys exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll just uh, we won't tell, We won't tell you

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Speaker 3: the draft one get one. They had another Best Ball

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Speaker 3: Week last week, but this week they're also doing a

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Speaker 3: and JJ, you and I have been comparing exposures and

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Speaker 3: also draft slots. I'm ninety two drafts in. You are

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Speaker 1: I've been doing the the Zone two peloton rides while drafting,

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Speaker 3: Did you see in the Best Ball chat that I

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Speaker 1: I mean, guys, I'm telling you what I'm almost. I

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Speaker 3: All right, JJ, I did see in the chat we

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Speaker 3: had what up? JJ and David love the show only

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Speaker 4: My man is crushing it, uh with with the news

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Speaker 1: All right, First on the list.

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Speaker 3: If you are a Montgomery Truther, this might scare you

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Speaker 3: a little bit. Is he even be splitting reps this year. JJ.

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Speaker 1: The problem with this report, this is a very classic

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to It's a really hard area of

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Speaker 3: Okay, uh, guy that's been in the news this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had Liam Cohen JAG's head coach on

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Speaker 1: unbelievably low on Parker Washington. There's a very very big

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Speaker 4: So don't think that anything weird.

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Speaker 3: Okay, staying on the Lions schefter and other people reported

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Speaker 4: Yeah there you go. You killed that, you say it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just am not sold that like this is this is

438
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: it for him?

439
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tua has been going like later on in drafts,

440
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: in Vestball drafts, I think Tua is like a fine.

441
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: Pick, interesting click.

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah. My only thing is that, like I do think

443
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 1: that like they might want to see what they have

444
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 1: after they're out of playoff contention, you know, with with

445
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: Penix and make sure and check that box. But yeah, man,

446
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean like I've I've not been inspired by Michael Pennix.

447
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: Since he's done what he's done, he's also shown that

448
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: he's not been able to stay healthy. So my my

449
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: stance is that like I think, I mean, look, I

450
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: think tua Is is potentially very very good for be

451
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: John Robinson too, So there's there's that going for him.

452
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: And we know that the the target consolidation is pretty

453
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: sure wrong in Atlanta, and we saw that in Miami

454
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: with Tua that he that he wasn't afraid to just

455
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: give it to his guys. And it's a very similar

456
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 1: situation where like you have like two or three good

457
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: targets and the rest of the team is really iffy.

458
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: And so I don't think that it would be shocking

459
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: to see Drake London hit like a twenty eight percent

460
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: target share, thirty percent target share this year. Kyle Pitts

461
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: could be decent, and then and then Bijon just getting

462
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: a lot of those dump offs that that we've seen.

463
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to attribute all of it

464
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: with a Chan to Tua, but one of the crazy

465
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: things with a Chan right now is the way that

466
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: people are talking about like how there's no one else

467
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: there in that offense and so it's not that big

468
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: of a deal that you know that that everything's changed

469
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: as a new quarterback, like who else they're gonna throw to?

470
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Speaker 4: He can still maintain that twenty percent target share, I.

471
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Speaker 1: Would agree, But without Tua, we saw a Chan be

472
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: completely useless in fantasy football. Like we've we've literally seen

473
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: the floor. The floor is not what happened last year.

474
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Speaker 3: You guys.

475
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: The Dolphins offense last year was not good, but that's

476
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: not the floor for a guy like a Cham because

477
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: Tua was still elevating him just from a pure you

478
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: know how we score fantasy football perspective, right, And I

479
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: feel that that way with Tua in Atlanta, where I

480
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: do think that he can at least give these guys

481
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: a floor and be a distributor. Do I think he's

482
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna all of a sudden be a pro bowler? Well,

483
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say pro bowler because that doesn't really matter anymore. Uh,

484
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean, se Door Sanders was a pro bowler, But no, Like,

485
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be like have like a

486
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: special season or anything.

487
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: Okay. Adam Schefter came out with his AS podcast yesterday

488
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: talking about training camp notes, and one of those was

489
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: that Jalen Wattles playing the joker in Denver And if

490
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 3: you remember last year, people were all about Evan Ingram

491
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: because the word joker was attached to him. So joker

492
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: means value basically in the Denver offense.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like Sean Payton has always had this

494
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: joker role where he lines it's usually not a wide receiver,

495
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: it's usually a tight end or running where he lines

496
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: these guys all over the field and likes to deploy

497
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: them in in interesting ways. Like Darren Sproles was sort

498
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: of that role at one point, Jimmy Graham was that

499
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: role at one point, And like, it's probably not something

500
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: that we need to be that concerned about and worry

501
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: about the labeling of it, but I do think that

502
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: this is just another instance of like I don't understand

503
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: why Courtland Sutton gets drafted where he gets drafted, and

504
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand where why Jalen Waddle gets drafted where

505
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: he gets drafted. I'm not talking about best ball, I'm

506
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: talking about season long leagues right now. If you look

507
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: at Yahoo and ESPN, we're talking wide receiver twenty two

508
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: and wide receiver twenty four for Jalen Wattle. According to ADP,

509
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: I have my wide receiver seventeen, so that's a pretty

510
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: big difference. And then ESPN and Yahoo have Courtland Sutton

511
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: at a wide receiver thirty three and wide receiver thirty seven.

512
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 1: I have said in a wide receiver forty four. I

513
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: will never ever understand why people love Courtland Sutton so

514
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: much in fantasy football. It makes absolutely zero sense to me.

515
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: He's quite literally not been a wide He's never had

516
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: a wide receiver one season, he said, one wide receiver

517
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: two season. In PPR points per game if I recall correctly,

518
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: and his yards per rout run has not been over

519
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: the two mark in like seven years, like an insane

520
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: amount of time. And so I don't really understand why

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: adding Jalen Waddle to the mix is going to to

522
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: sustain Courtland Sutton's fantasy production when there were times last

523
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: year where in this role, because I think Waddle's gonna

524
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: play the Z a lot in this role, we saw

525
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: Troy Franklin play this, and there were times last year

526
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: where Franklin was out producing Courtland Sutton. There was like

527
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: a stretch of three or four games where he was

528
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: a better fantasy asset than Courtland Sutton was and so

529
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all. I think Jalen Wattle is a smash

530
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: at his ADP and I do not understand, you know,

531
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: in a season long environment, why court why you would

532
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: be drafting Courtland Sutton as a wide receiver three. I

533
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: just can't get behind it.

534
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 3: Hey, Cameron Wolf has Tetero McMillan from the Show playing

535
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: more slot this season in Carolina.

536
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: We talked to TAMAC about this at the Super Bowl.

537
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: I brought it up about him playing more in the slot,

538
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: and he said that he was he would be excited

539
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: to do that because he referenced, which was a great reference,

540
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: the Atlanta game and that in that game last year

541
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: he played a little bit more in the slot, he

542
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: was really productive out of the slot. The only problem

543
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: with this is that Jalen Coker is good there too,

544
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: and I worry about what that would do to his

545
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: fantasy value. I'm not trying to like make this too

546
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: big of a deal, but I do think that it

547
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: would It would ease some concerns for me with t MAC,

548
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: because my fear with t Mac is not that he's

549
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: not going to get a decent amount of volume and

550
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: be good because I think he's a stud. My fear

551
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: would be the conversion of some of the looks that

552
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: he gets, and he'll have an easier time converting if

553
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: he does get more slot work. So I think it's

554
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: a good thing for him for sure that he would

555
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: be playing more out of that area and also just

556
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: shows more offensive you know, innovation and being able to

557
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: get your got or get your best players in good

558
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: spots and such. But it would be a little bit

559
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: of a of a damper for for Jalen Coker there,

560
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: because I do think that he's a He's a pretty

561
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: good slot player himself.

562
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Speaker 3: Okay, last one on the list, because we've we've seen

563
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: his name floating around. I'm I'm still kind of shocked

564
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 3: he still hasn't signed. And that is stuf On Diggs.

565
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: Where's he going? You think you think he's gonna be

566
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: a new the new commander since i UK has kind

567
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: of played himself out of that role.

568
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: I think that it makes most sense, the most sense

569
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: for him to go to the commanders.

570
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: I think he.

571
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: Meshes well with with Terry McLaurin. I mean McLaurin can

572
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: obviously stretch the field really well. I think Diggs is

573
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: kind of past that point in his career. So I'm

574
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: still I'm still banking on that. Where I don't want

575
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: him to go is Baltimore.

576
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Speaker 4: I I don't want to.

577
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: See that happen, uh, just because there's not gonna be

578
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: as much volume, and you know, I want Zay Flowers

579
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: to to be able to maintain a really high target share.

580
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: But Washington, Kansas City's one to to keep an eye on.

581
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up going. There

582
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: might be a little bit of a redundant asset to

583
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: what they already have to a degree, but yeah, I

584
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: think Washington is probably the favorite right now.

585
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into today's data where we have

586
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Speaker 3: some market score comp projections for running back and receiver

587
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: today's data. All right, JJ, tell us what we're looking

588
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Speaker 3: at here.

589
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I did that episode yesterday on the comps

590
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: score stuff and the looking at these players in market

591
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: score and how they performed based on what their comps

592
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: were saying, right, And so I got a lot of

593
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: feedback that it was really cool and fun and hopefully

594
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: you guys didn't take it like too seriously because it's

595
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: not how market scorer.

596
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Speaker 4: Is being used.

597
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Slash it's not how my projections and how my you know,

598
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: it's not like the sole thing that I'm looking at

599
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: when I'm trying to see if I like a player

600
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: or not, but it is going to be part of

601
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: my evaluation process. And so right here I have the

602
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: top twenty four running backs and wide receivers listed for

603
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: you by their market score, COMP projection. So just to

604
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: run through this and what this means, b Jhon Robinson,

605
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: I look at his ADP, his market score in his

606
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: career year, and I find the ten most similar players

607
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen who fit those three criteria best for

608
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: b Jon Robinson, and then from there, I can multiply

609
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: the similarity by that point per game projection point per

610
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: game output that that player that comp had, and can

611
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: it can produce this projection that's based that's weighted by

612
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: the similar scorer. So if a player like had a

613
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: guy who was ninety five and similarity scorer and then

614
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: the next guy was seventy five, that ninety five is

615
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: getting more weight. That is basically what that means. So

616
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: b Jon Robinson comes in as the RB one. You know,

617
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: I called out some of the crazy ones on the

618
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: show on Tuesday which was the whole point of that show.

619
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Speaker 1: But you can see where this is. I mentioned the

620
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: drop off from from Chase Brown to RJ. Harvey fourteen

621
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: to fifteen, and you can see that drop off. It's

622
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: it's one point three points per game, which is pretty

623
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: significant compared to what you were seeing before. That These

624
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: are not these are not actual projections. It's just a

625
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 1: way of looking at market score and kind of a

626
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: unique and different way and see where you know, there's

627
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more fear or some some uh

628
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, downside risk for some players like running back.

629
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: You have David Montgomery, who we talked about. You have

630
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: the new England backfield at wide receiver DeVante Smith. It

631
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: doesn't like very much the comps. Now the actual market

632
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: score doesn't mind him, but the comps don't, uh don't

633
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: love them Christian Watson, DJ Moore. But you can see

634
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: where these guys rank. It's just an interesting way of

635
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: looking at market score, you know, in a in a

636
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: different way that that I don't think is really out

637
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: there uh that much. I think like looking at comps

638
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: and seeing what goes on in history is always just

639
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: fun content.

640
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the uh, some of those Guys, if if you had,

641
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 3: if you're high on them, and you see them on

642
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: this list, you're like, uh, and the why are they

643
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: so far down?

644
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: Right?

645
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: Like AJ Brown Wide receiver? I love a J Brown

646
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: this year wide receiver eighteen. Yeah, I'm not ranking my

647
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: wide recis eighteen. It's just that Mon Raw at wide

648
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: receiver sixteen. Yeah, there's yeah.

649
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: I mean, like that's crazy, man.

650
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: That's not only not only that, it's crazy because like,

651
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: don't think that market score doesn't like these players, that

652
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: their projection is low. Uh, it's just saying that historically

653
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: there haven't been good top ten comps. There might be

654
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: good eleven to fifteen comps. You know, I have no

655
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: clue I lived the top ten. But it's just it's

656
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: just interesting thought, you know, like like yeah, like content

657
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: to chew on and to think about.

658
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into the main event. It's the

659
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: late round main event, all right. The topic is training

660
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: camp sleepers for the main event JJ, And you're gonna

661
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: tell us what we're looking for.

662
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: So here's what I'm doing. I'm thinking about players who

663
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: we might see a lot of love for in the

664
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: media and from beat reporters and stuff. As training camp

665
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: gets going, and there I was thinking about like what

666
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: criteria should be looking at here, and the three criteria

667
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: that I thought of was there's an opening to showcase

668
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: their talent. So you know, maybe the wide receiver two

669
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: is injured or there's just no wide receiver too and

670
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a battle for it. So there's some

671
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: some opening in the depth chart for these players to

672
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: do something. There's ambiguity surrounding the player himself and the

673
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: talent of that player. And then typically you'll see more

674
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: athletic players get a little bit more love and camp

675
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: because they're just athletic and spectacles to watch, right, So

676
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: those are the three things. It's openness or in opening

677
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: to showcase their talent. There's ambiguity surrounding that individual players talent,

678
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: and then there's athleticism. That's that's typically that that plus

679
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: for for these players.

680
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: So with that being said, I'm gonna just go with

681
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: the low hanging fruit one.

682
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: First. This one's fairly obvious, but Jonathan Brooks and I

683
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: don't have like this is very much more vibes based

684
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: than anything else.

685
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: You know, this is.

686
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: More of a I mean, I don't know how it

687
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't be vibes based when when this is the topic.

688
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: But I'll give you, guys my take on these players

689
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: as I talk about them. So, like the notes in

690
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: here aren't like super super detailed. But Jonathan Brooks, if

691
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: he steps into camp and he looks completely healthy, I

692
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: don't see how his ADP doesn't continue to go up.

693
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean it went up a little bit, but like

694
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: you're still getting him on DraftKings, for instance, at like

695
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: the nine to ten turn pretty frequently, or into the

696
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: tenth rounds sometimes, where I think that you can get

697
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: them a lot earlier than that. You know, I look

698
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: at my rankings. I have him at RB thirty two

699
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: right now, which is way higher than where you'll get

700
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: him on ESPN and Yahoo where Over on Yahoo he

701
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: is RB thirty nine. ESPN he's also RB thirty nine.

702
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: So I think that, Like, again, the way that I

703
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: like look at these players in rankings and in fantasy

704
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: drafts is like, if you're in round eight to ten,

705
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: you should not be worried about the floor outcome, and

706
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: the ceiling outcome is pretty crazy for Jonathan Brooks when

707
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: you consider last year their backup, Carolina's backup took over

708
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: Touba Hubbard as starter like he took that job. Like

709
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: we've seen this happened before in the same offense with

710
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: the same coach, so don't think that it can't happen

711
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: again now. The difference this year is that Chuba Hubbard

712
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: is going later than he was last year. Last year

713
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: he was a fade. This year it's not so obvious

714
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: because he's not going as early. But I do think

715
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: that Brooks and Cuba on those main sites should be

716
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: closer together. It's not going to shock me. In a

717
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: best ball environment where you get a lot of slappies

718
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: and you get a lot of people who are, you know,

719
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: wanting to be the smartest person in the room, it

720
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if by mid August Jonathan Brooks is

721
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: being drafted head of Chuba Hubbard.

722
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 4: I don't think it would shock me. Just based on steam.

723
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, some highlights and and we'll get there this summer.

724
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: Another guy who's crazy, explosive athletic and who's been steamed

725
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: up a little bit and we have some positive training

726
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: reports is Rashid Shahi.

727
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like four or five wide receiver spots ahead

728
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: of the market with Shaheed. This year, he joined Seattle

729
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: last year, he only had a two thirds route share

730
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent route share once he joined Seattle. I

731
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: think he'll end up being more of a full time player.

732
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: He's had a career one point seventy five yards barrow

733
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: run rate some seasons over the two mark. His rookie

734
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: season was incredible in terms of the big playability. He

735
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: was able to take away volume from Chris A Lave

736
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: last year, which is not nothing because obviously a Lave

737
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: like right when Shaheed left, is when the Lave rocket shipped,

738
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, to fantasy football greatness in that offense, and

739
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: so a lot of people will credit it to Tyler Shuck,

740
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: but I think it's just as much rashid Hiheed and

741
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: the lack of competition for him to be able to

742
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: get as big of a target share as he did

743
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I also have the take that I

744
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: think Seattle is going to be forced to throw the

745
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more this year because the defense

746
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: more than likely won't be as efficient as it was

747
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: last year, because it's going to be very difficult for

748
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: it to be as efficient as it was last year.

749
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: So that to me, is going to combat the JSN

750
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: regression a little bit, and it can help a guy

751
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: like Rashid Shaheed. You know, if he carves out like

752
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: a eighteen to twenty percent target share in the offense,

753
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: which is very doable. If he is running more routes

754
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: and more close to that like eighty five to ninety

755
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: percent route cherry range. All of a sudden, you're talking,

756
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of big plays. He could be

757
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: a low end wide receiver three in fantasy like pretty easily.

758
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: So I think he's a good pick right now. And

759
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked if we get more and

760
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: more positive reports about Shaheed, his speed, how he opens

761
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: up the offense. I was gonna play more and that's

762
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna just increase his ADP.

763
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: Kay, next guy, you've come around on a little bit.

764
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: Zacharia Branch with the Falcons.

765
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, it was. It was weird because I

766
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be so much lower than the

767
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: market on Branch in rookie drafts, and then I was

768
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: basically at the market with Branch in terms of how

769
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: I ranked him. But look, from a prospecting profile standpoint,

770
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: the TLDR is that Zachariah Branch is really athletic and twitchy,

771
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: but he's gadgety.

772
00:36:59,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: You know.

773
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: A lot of his college production came behind the line

774
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: of scrimmage.

775
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: It was kind of manufactured. He doesn't have.

776
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: The full route tree, you know, under his belt, and

777
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that ability to run that just yet.

778
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: But again, you think about the type of the archetype

779
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: of player that he is, speedy, twitchy. That is the

780
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: training camp you know, like the training camp archetype that

781
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: you know is going to end up just just being

782
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: boosted by beat.

783
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 4: Reporters and such.

784
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: And there's no locked in wide receiver two in Atlanta

785
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: right now. So I think that he's going to rise

786
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: in ADP over the next three weeks.

787
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: Okay, next we have cover boy t for Terrence Ferguson

788
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: with the Rams.

789
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I love Terrence Ferguson, loved him

790
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: as a prospect last year. There's no wide receiver three

791
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: on this team on this on this RAMS team, there's

792
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: no one that's like reliable as like a slot player.

793
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: And last year he played by far the most in

794
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: the slot of all of the RAMS tight ends. He

795
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: had a fifty percent slot rate that was double every

796
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: other RAMS tight end. He's an athletic freak. He's a

797
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: year two guy. They run a lot of heavy personnel.

798
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna see a lot of two three

799
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: tight end sets. I think that we're gonna see articles

800
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: and we've kind of seen them, but not a ton

801
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: where we're gonna we're gonna hear them. Say Terrence Ferguson

802
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: is the de facto wide receiver three in the Rams offense,

803
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: and that alone is gonna boost him over you know,

804
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: the more stable guys like a Jawan Johnson or something

805
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: like that from an ADP standpoint into maybe that like

806
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: tight end sixteen to eighteen range as opposed to you know,

807
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: more in the the low twenties.

808
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why if like, because some people were

809
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: talking about the Rams getting one of these bit receivers

810
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: as their wide receiver three.

811
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's another one like Diggs. Diggs could end

812
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: up going there, and it would it would probably be

813
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: not great for best ball bags.

814
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: It would be fine, more neutral.

815
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: But we're hoping if you've been drafting step On Diggs,

816
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you're hoping that he get he goes somewhere like Washington

817
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: and ends up as like a ninth round pick as

818
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: opposed to a twelve round one.

819
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, regardless of where he goes, he's going to be

820
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: steamed up a little bit. This guy we talked about

821
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: internally and the I was talking with Branda Doula about

822
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: I need to get more exposure to Tank Dell at Bhils,

823
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: like because if that highlight clip of him last week

824
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: or this week, he's cutting and everything else. I mean,

825
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: he's he's like a seventeenth eighteenth round pick right now.

826
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's fine to throw a dart out.

827
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: I like Jalen Nole too. I liked him as a

828
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: prospect as well. And I'm actually ahead of the market

829
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: on on Jayden Higgins a little bit just because I

830
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: think he's he's like a really solid player, like he's

831
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: a he's a like I'm not taking Shaheed over or

832
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm not taking him over Shaheed. But I do think

833
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: that that Higgins is a good player himself. But the

834
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Tank Dell stuff, if he looks like his old self,

835
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: his ADP is going to go up. The one thing

836
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: that I want to say about Tank Dell is there

837
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: is this narrative out there that CJ. Shroud has only

838
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: been bad because Tank Dell hasn't been healthy and if

839
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: you'll get his rookie year. Yeah, sure, like it helps

840
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: because he had a good rookie season. If you'll get

841
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: his second year.

842
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: C J.

843
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 4: Stroud, he was just bad in general.

844
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

845
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: He averaged thirteen point two standard points per game with

846
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: Tank Dell in twenty twenty four, and then the three

847
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: games without him was a couple points below that. He

848
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: was just bad in general. He's just been bad the

849
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: last two years. C J.

850
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: Stroud has nothing to do with Tank Dell.

851
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: It has to do with the fact that he's not

852
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: been a good quarterback and that offensive line has sucked

853
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: and the coordinators haven't necessarily meshed well. So I don't

854
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: want to overstate what Tank Dell does for CJ. Stroud,

855
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: but I do think that there's a very real chance

856
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: we see him get steamed up here in late late

857
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: July and into August.

858
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: Some talented receivers, obviously they're in Houston. I'm just beginning

859
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: to think maybe c J. Stroud has a comeback year

860
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: this year.

861
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: We'll see raft.

862
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: I mean I've drafted him, and yeah, I have not

863
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 3: drafted as much of him because he's in that same

864
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: tier as mister camp Ward. Uh yeah, of course, Yeah, there.

865
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta you gotta ignore one bad quarterback for

866
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: another bad quarterback.

867
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: I will not take any CG awardslander, especially after quarterback.

868
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: All Right, MacKaye Fields, this Giants offense is speaking of

869
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: wide receiver rooms. We have no clue really what to expect. Yeah,

870
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: and you have MacKaye Fields on the list.

871
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't think.

872
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 4: Fields is that good of a prospect.

873
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: I think as separation issues he had, he had really

874
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: mediocre aged justic collegiate production.

875
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: He played five years in college.

876
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Uh, and it's just never really like his production profile

877
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: is just never Studeley. And so I don't think he's

878
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna be Studeley in the NFL. That being said, there

879
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: is an opening. And he's not a speed freak, but

880
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: he's a size freak, and so I think there's a

881
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: very real chance we get some videos of him mossing

882
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: defenders and all of a sudden, we get the hype

883
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: train going about how.

884
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: He's gonna be using the red zone.

885
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he's a He's a good asset

886
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: from that perspective, which obviously will lead to being more

887
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: productive and fantasy football. And so I've actually been drafting

888
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: like I'll get naked Jackson Dart and I'll just get

889
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: Malchi Fields in round twenty, you know, just to get

890
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: some piece of that offense with him, because I think

891
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: that they'll end up using him, you know, throughout the season,

892
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: especially with with the the injury to neighbors. So watch

893
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: out for fields given that size and how they might

894
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: deploy him in the red zone. All right, Jonah Coleman, Yeah, yeah,

895
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm on an island with Jonah Coleman.

896
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, it's uh.

897
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: No one likes Jonah Coleman because there's two guys ahead

898
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: of him on the depth shot.

899
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: And I don't mind RJ.

900
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: Harvey either. I've become a Harvey bro based on how

901
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: his ADP's fallen. But Jonah Coleman is a backup to

902
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: both JK. Dobbins and R J.

903
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Harvey.

904
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Right, you can play an early down role. He did

905
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: that throughout college. He was a really goodass catcher. He's

906
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: good in pass pro. Like there's he's a he's a

907
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: j We said this on becoming a best ball bro.

908
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: He's a jack of all trades, master of none, and

909
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: that can be fine in an environment where you have

910
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: a veteran running back who's been hurt throughout his career

911
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: and a very volatile.

912
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: Second year running back in RJ. Harvey.

913
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: I think that they wanted a player who was a

914
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: little bit more stable, which is what you get with

915
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Jonah Coleman. And so to me, the instant that you

916
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: hear from beat reporters that he's going to be mixed

917
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: in with the first team, he's one of those players

918
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: that can rise in ADP because all of a sudden,

919
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he might have some standalone value in

920
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Best Ball if things just kind of go his way

921
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: in a given game, because he might see five to

922
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: seven touches or something. But also there's multiple contingent outs

923
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: for him if if one of those two guys gets hurt.

924
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: So I think Jonah Coleman was a good prospect, and

925
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: I think he's underrated in Best Ball right now.

926
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: And you know, and I.

927
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: Wrote about this in the Draft Guy, like I would

928
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: only draft him in season long if it's like a

929
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: deep bench type of situation. But I still think that

930
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: he is draftable in that kind of environment as well.

931
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me right now, the guy, because I I've

932
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: even been getting some RJ. Harvey. We've talked about Harvey

933
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: a lot on the show. The one guy I haven't

934
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 3: been getting in this offense is JK Dobbins.

935
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 4: I haven't been drafting Dobbins.

936
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: No.

937
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I think it's completely defensible. Like to me, there is

938
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: no reason in season long. If you look at JK Dobbins,

939
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: I'll do it right now because I have the Yahoo

940
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: and the ESPN ADP. Yahoo has him met RB thirty five,

941
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: ESPN RB thirty three. And then if you look at

942
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason, Yaho hasn't met RB forty four, ESPN RB

943
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: forty six. And to me, it's the exact same archetype.

944
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: Archetype like, it's the exact same type of player. You

945
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: get an early down grinder, and you could argue that

946
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason has easier competition in his backfield than JK

947
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: Dobbins does. Dobbins was not used at all as a

948
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: receiver last year, and so you know, was he good

949
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: on the ground. Yeah, but we know that he's coming

950
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: off an injury. He's often injured himself, and he's not

951
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: a pass catcher. And there's now a Jonah Coleman factor

952
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: that maybe he sees no work, but there's the chance

953
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: he sees some I don't see what the upside is

954
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: with JK. Dobbins. I just don't get it, and people

955
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: are drafting him as high as like RB thirty, and

956
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: I just I can't get behind that because the pass

957
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: catching profile is not there and people are gonna hate

958
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: on that because they're like, oh, you just care about

959
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: pass catching Stuff's like, no, you can arbitrage this kind

960
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: of player.

961
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: That's my point.

962
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: You can get a Jordan Mason fifty picks later on

963
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: a platform like ESPN. There's no reason to reach for

964
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: a guy like Dobbins.

965
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Okay, his next guy's been steamed up already in the

966
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: best ball circles, but redraft might be lagging just a

967
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: little bit. It's eighty Mitchell wide receiver for the Jets.

968
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna get reports that

969
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: he's out there in two wide receiver sets, that he's

970
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: their number two wide receiver. Omar Cooper's more of a

971
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: slock guy for them, and we know the athleticisms there.

972
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he's actually not been that bad on a

973
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: per route run basis throughout his career, and so I

974
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: think that he's not a terrible dart if you want

975
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: to look his way in a deeper format. I've definitely

976
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: drafted him in Best Ball plenty, but I think there's

977
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: a real chance that we see him sort of get

978
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: closer to where Omar Cooper's going and maybe.

979
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: Even flip by the time training camp is done.

980
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Next on the list, we have Elijah Saratz, the

981
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: wide receiver for the Ravens.

982
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 4: Yes.

983
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Uh, this one is very simply. Elijah Surrat really profiled

984
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: as a slot guy, a big slot.

985
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: You know.

986
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: I remember having a text conversation with Harmon back in

987
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: February when I was doing some of my prospect breakdowns,

988
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: and I told him that Elijah Surrat was getting like

989
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Pat Bryant type comps, and then Harmon

990
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: mentioned to me that when he watched him, he couldn't

991
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: get off the vibe and the idea that he was

992
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: more of a big slot. Now, Harmon said that before

993
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: about players, and he's he's been right like Keon Coleman,

994
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: he called a big slot, and we see that lack

995
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: of separation on the outside from Keon Coleman, and I

996
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: think Harmon nailed that right, and I think that we

997
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: could see a very similar situation here, except hopefully you

998
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: have a smarter staff in front office saying yeah, we're

999
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: going to deploy him that way because we lost Isaiah

1000
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: likely and we need more of a presence in the

1001
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: middle of the field alongside Mark Andrews. And if that happens,

1002
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna get more excited about Surat

1003
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: because when you get a late round pick and you

1004
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: can attach him to a certain role in an offense,

1005
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: and that role might be you know, not like thirteen

1006
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: fourteen PPR points per game, but a role that could

1007
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: see some spiked weeks, it's going to excite people.

1008
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: And I think that we can see that with a

1009
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: player like Sarat sure handed, big wide receiver for sure.

1010
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: Speaking of sure handed, big burly, just amazing tight end.

1011
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: Gunner Helm next on this list.

1012
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the athleticism is in I'm just kidding,

1013
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean gunner Helm had horrible athleticism scores

1014
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: because he got hurt, you know, in the in the drills.

1015
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: And still ran, still ran with a busted ankle. Look

1016
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: at the riding of four to nine, Look at the

1017
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: picture with him and that ankle, and think could a

1018
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: regular human do this?

1019
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean I don't even care about that

1020
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: stuff to be to be fair, what I do care

1021
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: about is with late round tight ends, you often want

1022
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: an open pass catching room where we don't know exactly

1023
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, more ambiguous, right, we don't know exactly how

1024
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: targets are gonna get distributed. I think we kind of

1025
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: have that in Tennessee right now. There's no tight end

1026
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: that he's really competing with. They did get Daniel Bellinger,

1027
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, a Brian Dable fave, but he's not that

1028
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: much of a threat from like a pure pass catching standpoint.

1029
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: So I think if there's some chatter about him being

1030
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: a top target on the team, which I think is

1031
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: very possible, Gunnerhelm could could rise a little bit.

1032
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: In ADP.

1033
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: I'm definitely head of the market right now with with Helme.

1034
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't even think he's ranked on some of the

1035
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: big platforms.

1036
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Last on this list we have Demon Claiborne.

1037
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: And then I want to ask you about a guy

1038
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: who I think could be on this list.

1039
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot that I could have thrown out there.

1040
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: So if I miss somebody, you know, it's definitely possible

1041
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: that I just you know, like I like that person

1042
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: as a candidate as well. Well, but yeah, I mean, look,

1043
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: I've I've been on oddly team Jordan Mason this summer

1044
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: now for the last few weeks, like a month or so,

1045
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: and it's a weird place for me to be because

1046
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I've not been on Team Jordan Mason in the past.

1047
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: And I but I still recognize that Mason is not

1048
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: necessarily like a complete running back. He certainly doesn't have

1049
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: the pass catching chops right. And then Aaron Jones is

1050
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: older and again a guy near and dear to my

1051
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: heart for a lot of reasons.

1052
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: But he's older and.

1053
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Definitely looks like he's he's lost a little bit of

1054
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: a step, you know. Thirty two beat writers friend of

1055
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: the show on Twitter, they had posted a quote that

1056
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: says Demon Claiborne about demonk Claiborne's his executives, coaches, and

1057
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: teammates quietly raved about his movement skills this spring.

1058
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: This is where it was kind of funny, though.

1059
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: It says, if he can master the system, pass protection

1060
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: rules and ball security, buckle your seatbelt. So it's like

1061
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: I can, if he can play the running acquisition, watch out, guys.

1062
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: But though like the reason that you get excited about

1063
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: DeMont Claiborne from an adp rising perspective is because it's

1064
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: an ambiguous backfield with a very clear opening, and demon

1065
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: Claiborne is at the very least very athletic. He ran

1066
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: a fourth three seven forty. He had a pretty good

1067
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: pass catching profile. I think he's more of a threat

1068
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: to Aaron Jones in the role that Jones plays in

1069
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: that offense. But even still, you know, if we could

1070
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: get a you know, five to six percent target share

1071
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: and you know, like maybe we get like eight touches

1072
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: a game towards the middle of the season and that

1073
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: that slowly climbs the double digits towards the end of

1074
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: the season.

1075
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 4: I think that's possible for him. I don't think that he.

1076
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Is a true bell cow back though he's a very

1077
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: small running back, like he's sub one ninety. I don't

1078
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: think that we're going to see that kind of role

1079
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: with him. But when he was drafted, I think I

1080
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: mentioned like he he pairs really well with Jordan Mason,

1081
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: like realistically similar to how I think Aaron Jones in

1082
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: a hypothetical world pairs well with Jordan Mason. So we'll

1083
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: see what happens. But he's definitely a player that is

1084
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: going to get steamed. I think of all these guys

1085
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: on this list, he's probably top three for me that

1086
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: will get a lot of love as training camp goes on.

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00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: Did you see our buddy Pat Thorman? He tweeted yesterday

1088
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: the athletic might have hung the most, but she's got

1089
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: a great personality. Blurb ever on Aaron Jones, and the

1090
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: blurb was, if you pulled NFL players, Jones may rank

1091
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: in the top five with the nicest and most respected.

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00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, I mean it's not it's I've said this before,

1093
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: and like you know, I like throwing these kind of

1094
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: like stories out there. But like when I first started prospecting,

1095
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: it was the year I think it's twenty seventeen. It

1096
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: was his class. That's when I first started like vaguely prospecting,

1097
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: and the stuff that I was working on loved Aaron Jones.

1098
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: So I followed him really early when he had like

1099
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: five thousand followers on Twitter, and he followed me back.

1100
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: And so like every I know, I've told this story before,

1101
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: but every time there's like a chart or something that

1102
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: I post where it's negative about Aaron Jones and someone

1103
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: like tags him or something like that I can always

1104
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: be like, you know, I'm an og and he's like, yeah, you're.

1105
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: You're good, all right, some guys that might not be

1106
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: on this list. I'm interested in the the two rookie

1107
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: tight ends, with Sadiq and Stours both being potential guys

1108
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: that I mean Stowars has just fallen off the board now.

1109
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was reports about him just like

1110
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: having like a red shirt season essentially.

1111
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: Right, and we don't know that's for sure at all.

1112
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that is Stowars.

1113
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: That's really interesting to me.

1114
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Is that like that Again, this goes back to when

1115
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: we were doing the prospecting work and it was always lost.

1116
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: But Stowars is like like a lot older than Kenyan Sidik,

1117
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: and so you don't want that to happen for Eli Stowers.

1118
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: You don't want this rookie season to be one where

1119
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't get any production because that's typically a pretty

1120
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: rough sign for a guy who's a little bit older.

1121
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: They already knew he couldn't block, but you don't have to.

1122
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: You don't have to flock if you're a past catching

1123
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: tight end and if they're you know, this new system

1124
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: with hurts, I'm anxious to see where Stours is. And

1125
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: same with Sadik, because people are out on Sadik and

1126
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: it has been playing.

1127
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been hurt and so when he had

1128
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: the like hernia and.

1129
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Like I I've been drafting Sadik. I

1130
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: think that that he's actually not a bad pick. It's

1131
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: just that some of these platforms like an ESPN has

1132
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: n't at a reasonable price. So I I you know,

1133
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: I haven't called him out as like a Late Round Darthrow.

1134
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 3: All right, let's wrap up this show.

1135
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: All right.

1136
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: Just as a reminder, we have the Late Round dot com,

1137
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,319
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1139
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1140
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. Last week was great on the offensive coordinator stuff.

1141
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: He's going to continue that tomorrow. So if you're in,

1142
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Speaker 3: if you're into just like getting back into the groove

1143
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1144
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1148
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: in a discord rankings year round, that sort of thing.

1149
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: You also get access to both of our guides for

1150
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 3: as long as you are subscribed. JJ.

1151
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. And someone's asking a question about the Draft

1152
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: Guide saying, will you be removing any of your targets

1153
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: from your Draft Guide if ADP shifts enough. The answer

1154
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: is absolutely yes. I update blurs, I'll remove players, I'll

1155
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: add updates to the blurs to say this is how

1156
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm feeling about this guy.

1157
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 3: Now.

1158
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: There's just right now, not enough movement going on in

1159
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: ADP for me to really like.

1160
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: If there's any changes to players and targets, players to

1161
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: target and avoid.

1162
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: It's based on.

1163
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: My own research as opposed to the market shifting, because

1164
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: the market's just not moving that much right though.

1165
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: We're right now in like the speculation phase.

1166
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, in two weeks is going to be different, right,

1167
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot more movement.

1168
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: Completely different, all right. Also, again, we are doing some

1169
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: live drafts on this channel, so make sure if you

1170
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: have notifications turned on, like subscribe, all that sort of thing.

1171
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,560
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1172
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,879
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00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080
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00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: if you are a member, join the Best Ball Chat

1176
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: in the discord because we're gonna be doing some stuff.

1177
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: More stuff in there, JJ, We've got Fantasy Football Expo

1178
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: this weekend. You and I. I'm actually going to be

1179
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 3: doing some drafts this year. Last year I just watched you.

1180
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: I sat in my chair and I watched you doing

1181
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: your drafts. This year, I'll be doing my own drafts.

1182
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 4: You're in the You're in the Jim Brown Division, Yeah.

1183
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: Nond division.

1184
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: I can't remember if I'm Brown or Blanded, but I'm

1185
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: in the So if you guys are at the expo,

1186
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: if you go to the Hall of Fame on Saturday,

1187
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: there will be various rooms where one room in the

1188
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: in the room that I'll be in where we're drafting,

1189
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: we'll have like serious XM set up and stuff like that.

1190
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: And then there's a room next to it, which is

1191
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: where kitchen will be drafting, where you'll get to see

1192
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: not only the drafts go down, but there's auctioneers for

1193
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: the auction draft, so we do a snake draft, have lunch,

1194
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: and then do an auction draft, so we're literally drafting

1195
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: for like nine straight hours. But it's funny because Bob Lung,

1196
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: who runs the expo, he randomly assigned picks and draft

1197
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: slots for us, and it just so happens that in

1198
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: the Snake draft in our divisions, Kitchen and I both

1199
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: drew the.

1200
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: One oh one.

1201
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: So I haven't gotten the one on one in Best Ball,

1202
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: but I got it in this, which I'll take. I'll

1203
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: take that.

1204
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, pick, look, especially in fourteen teen leagues, is is good.

1205
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: I also want to shout outs Petrip who says definitely

1206
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 3: gonna be there next year. He also sent me a

1207
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 3: master's hat, so shout out to to feature if I

1208
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: warred on last last week's stream when I was drafting

1209
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 3: on the show.

1210
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: We also got we also got j Bolt, who will

1211
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: be there this weekend.

1212
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: Yes, we have. We have a few members that are

1213
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: going to be there this weekend.

1214
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's gonna be great.

1215
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: It's a great time. It's a great time.

1216
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun time. This was also a

1217
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: fun time JJ, and we appreciate everyone for tuning in

1218
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, getting down and nerdy with us

1219
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: on this show, and we'll see you next time here

1220
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: on the Late Round Fantasy Football show, a