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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. I'm one of

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Speaker 1: your celebrity mentors, Kelly ben Simone, and I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to have my friend on the pod today. You know

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Speaker 1: him from the Golden Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise. He

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Speaker 1: is incredible and officially it's official he's off the market,

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to check in and hear everything about

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Speaker 1: what he's doing in his new relationship. Please welcome Gary Livingstone.

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Speaker 2: Kelly is in the house.

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Speaker 1: There's my boy girlfriend, Shake.

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Speaker 2: It is so nice to see your lovely face living color.

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Speaker 1: In living color. You look so sunny and so happy, so.

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Speaker 2: Happy in the desert.

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Speaker 1: Sweet, that's right, life in the palm desert gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: You better believe it, You better believe it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how's my thoughtful man? How's how's mister thoughtful?

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Speaker 2: In a great place, in a great place. I was

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Speaker 2: able to get out and do my walk this morning.

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Speaker 2: Played pickleball earlier than normal, But that's okay because you

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Speaker 2: know everyone's out there. Everyone's out there before it warms up,

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Speaker 2: and even though it's going to get into like maybe

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Speaker 2: the high seventies, low eighties, it still feels warmer than that.

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Speaker 1: You know well you are. You are a warm person,

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Speaker 1: and I want to ask you a very interesting question.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, so we're gonna die.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna dive right now into your romance. Fans want

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Speaker 1: to know you left Bachelor in Paradise with Leslie. Yes, Leslie,

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Speaker 1: who I love Leslie? And you guys were hanging out

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Speaker 1: in Tahoe.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Bachelor and Paradise was airing. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: we have no idea what happened after the show. Okay,

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Speaker 1: did you guys try to date? What happened?

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Speaker 2: You know? It's interesting because I wouldn't call it dating

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Speaker 2: as much as it was just a close knit friendship,

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Speaker 2: like a connection like best friends, right, not dating or

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Speaker 2: with an intention of loving each other or I love

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Speaker 2: her dearly, don't get me wrong, but in a friend

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Speaker 2: kind of way, not in a romantic kind of way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I really like you just said dating with intention?

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Speaker 1: I say that, you know, I love that because I

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Speaker 1: say it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's an interesting dichotomy of when you're dating

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Speaker 2: with intention, you make things happen. Both parties make things.

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Speaker 2: You just make things happen. And yeah, and so we're

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Speaker 2: the best of friends. We've always been. I respect her

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Speaker 2: dearly and it comes back and that that is a

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Speaker 2: wonderful that's a wonderful thing to have.

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Speaker 1: Well, I love you saying so many beautiful things about

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Speaker 1: Leslie because she is a beauty. I'm her biggest fan.

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Speaker 1: I love her so much. She's best, she's the grandmother,

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Speaker 1: she's gorgeous, she's so much fun. I did want her

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Speaker 1: to teach me some dance moves, but she did not.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get to that later. But I really love

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Speaker 1: what you just said about dating with intention, and I

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Speaker 1: also really love what you said about you meet a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, but then when you do meet that person, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's like, let's go, we're ready to do this.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Kelly, it does hit differently later in life.

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Speaker 2: Later in life, when love hits you, it hits differently

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Speaker 2: because you know what really matters and what's important, and

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Speaker 2: the little stuff that you used to think was important,

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Speaker 2: it really isn't. It really isn't m the respect that

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Speaker 2: you have for one another. It's the recognizing the imperfections

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Speaker 2: are going to be there, but you worked through them

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Speaker 2: later in life to have great times, because that's all

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Speaker 2: that matters. It really is Oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, you're giving me like these like beautiful chill

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Speaker 1: It's so true speaking of these beautiful, beautiful thoughts. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you just hard launched that you're in a relationship. I wait,

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Speaker 1: why didn't I know this? There's no DM Hey, Kelly

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Speaker 1: knew that was that's what's happening. Nothing crag well friends.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were like texting buddies, and all of

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Speaker 2: You know, Kelly tell us about her. Yes, So we

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Speaker 2: met at church believe it or not, beautiful, and I

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Speaker 2: saw her leaving one day and I said, are you

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Speaker 2: Are you new? And she said. When she turned around

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Speaker 2: and we both looked at each other, it was like

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Speaker 2: the clouds open, the trumpets were playing, and it was

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Speaker 2: just one of those things that hits you like this

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Speaker 2: isn't a fantasy, this is real. And so from that

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Speaker 2: cherish I cherish it to no end because I've never

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Speaker 2: felt like this for anyone. And she says the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So it's great getting filled back up when we pour out.

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Speaker 2: So much because you know, like you were givers. We

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Speaker 2: it's an amazing it's an amazing feeling. It really really is.

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Speaker 1: So do you think the faith brought you guys together

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Speaker 1: or do you think that's one of your common bonds

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Speaker 1: or what do you what do you think? What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the faith?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you've heard of being equally yoked? Right, you've

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Speaker 2: heard of that comment that's saying, and I think it

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Speaker 2: is our faith. But I also think it was divine

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Speaker 2: intervention because she's not on social media. She never saw

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Speaker 2: social media? This is twenty twenty five, What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: You kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Like, really, she's for really non social media, like no

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Speaker 2: Really for her. And I did too, you know, so

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Speaker 2: that's not what brings her joy. And I thought, this

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Speaker 2: is this is really special that someone is liking me

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Speaker 2: because of who I am, not where I came from

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Speaker 2: or what I've done.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me. So we we we heard about

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Speaker 1: how you guys first met. Yes, clearly have this amazing

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Speaker 1: beautiful mind heavens. Yeah, I mean, come on, tell me, Kelly, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to get in trouble. Gary, tell

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Speaker 1: me about your first date. What'd you guys do? I

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Speaker 1: know you're so incredible, You're gonna love this. I'm your

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Speaker 2: So our first date now, I'll even go into our

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Speaker 2: second date. Our first date was going out for coffee

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Speaker 2: at iw Coffee Indian Well's coffee shop. We had coffee

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Speaker 2: and we just talked and we talked and talked and talked.

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Speaker 2: And the second date we went on was at at

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Speaker 2: at a protein store for like getting protein shakes. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and I forget the name of the place, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so that was our first date. It wasn't some

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Speaker 2: champagne dinner with caviaar and candle lights. It was at

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Speaker 2: what did you.

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Speaker 1: What kind of questions did you ask her? Just give

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I asked her. Actually what I did is

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Speaker 2: I told her about me being on the show, like

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Speaker 2: and there's lots of people and I now wear this

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Speaker 2: getting used to. And she's like, oh my god, really

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Speaker 2: I've never watched the show. And she's saying that. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I like that, you've never seen this, and you're taking

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Speaker 2: me for who I am as a person. But I

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Speaker 2: had to share that with her. And then she shared

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Speaker 2: a couple of things about what she's into in terms

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Speaker 2: of working out and walking and all the things, and

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Speaker 2: I go, well, I enjoy walking. Also, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: and I go, well, I like walking on the beach.

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Speaker 2: And I said, let's go to Malibu. And we end

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Speaker 2: up going to Malibu, and then we went to Santa

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Speaker 2: Monica and and everything was just falling in place. And Kelly,

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, wait.

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Speaker 1: Your third date, you guys went on a trip.

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Speaker 2: You drove to Malibu, well exact the third date, maybe

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Speaker 2: it was somewhere in there.

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Speaker 1: Well, because the first date was coffee, the second date

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Speaker 2: Wow, already I'm like, I'm trying to yeah, to go

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we just made it happen for all the

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Speaker 1: So now you told her about your experiences, but like,

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Speaker 1: what did you and you you know, you talk about

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Speaker 1: into this. I don't want to hear about the walking

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Speaker 1: and the running. What did you tell her? You must

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Speaker 1: tell her something really good.

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Speaker 2: Well, I told her, I said, I'm not looking for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, So you took yourself out of the game.

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Speaker 2: You're just saying I said, I'm looking for a wife.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for a wife, you know, she said, And

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for a husband. Oh my god, she said that. Kelly.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, boy, things just got real real fast.

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Speaker 1: Am I heard you a wedding? Am I going to

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Speaker 2: But isn't that how it happens. It's all in God's timing,

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Speaker 2: preparing me as I've been praying to show me her face.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear her voice, and prayers come true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, So did you say, like I

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Speaker 2: Nope, I did not want to go to the show

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Speaker 2: because that's not something that she particularly wanted to see.

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Speaker 2: But what was also intrigguing was you're gonna love this one.

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Speaker 2: She was listening to sports talk radio and I actually

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Speaker 1: You like what?

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Speaker 2: Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord. She likes sports, as

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Speaker 2: do I. So all these little golden trinkets are falling

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Speaker 2: and dropping and I'm just in seventh Heaven about who

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Speaker 2: I'm walking with now, and it's truly special.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I love that you guys are like

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Speaker 1: talking about things like sports, and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. But I mean I kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: the show because she's going to find out and there

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Speaker 1: has This is just my personal opinion, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like you guys should like have some kind of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Because I believe it or not, we have.

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Speaker 1: You don't want her to make her own you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't want her to assume you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like if you really care about her like wifey material.

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Speaker 2: Hello, totally, And that's part of my history, my makeup

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Speaker 2: over the past two years. And so I have shared

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Speaker 2: She says, Yeah, just like we did last night at

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Speaker 2: dinner when they were shouting Gary, we love you, and

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to like get away like any celebrity would,

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Speaker 2: as well said that is so awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're just a gracious You're such a gracious human.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Kelly, and it just played out in

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Speaker 2: And you're still going strong. We now are getting forgether

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Speaker 2: And I am just humbled to knowing that I have

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Speaker 2: It's been let me see, that was like right after

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Speaker 1: So this has been a while. Yeah, but you didn't

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Speaker 2: You know, Yes, small town USA.

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Speaker 2: it in and say, you know what they're showing up

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Speaker 1: So mine would be one of mine would be and

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Speaker 1: FaceTime them. They're asking me all these questions. Questions are

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Speaker 1: you guys first met that you didn't go into the past,

435
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Speaker 1: and I'm not a trauma bonder like a lot of

436
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: people are, like, let me tell you about my past.

437
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, no, thank you. I really do

438
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: want to hear about your past if it comes up later. Hey,

439
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: this is a trigger of mine. This happened to me

440
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: this instance. I definitely want to hear about that. But

441
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't want you to kitchen think about your past

442
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: because I want to hear about us. I don't want

443
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: to hear about going there right going forward. And that

444
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: was one thing that was really interesting about my new

445
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: boyfriend is that he he said that to me. He

446
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to hear He asked me

447
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: like a thousand questions a day, and he's like, I

448
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about X or Y. I mean,

449
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: he was very interested to hear about why I've never

450
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: been in love because I've been married before and then

451
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: I was engaged, so he wanted to know about that.

452
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: And I didn't get the opportunity to be like, Okay,

453
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: so I'm a little screwed up and I've had some

454
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: things happened to me in the past which I don't

455
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Speaker 1: want to talk about.

456
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Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting, Kelly. We all have imperfections.

457
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: So to we have to allow the past to live

458
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Speaker 1: in the past, and if there are moments where it

459
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: helps to create clarity, like you can cherry pick those moments. Yes,

460
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: but I think that, you know, I think that when

461
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: people go on their first dates and they just start

462
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: unloading on the other person. First of all, I don't

463
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: need a therapist like I have one. She's a fortune.

464
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: It's she's great, like I need a partner in my

465
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: love crime. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for

466
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: that next chapter with good news, with excitement, with adventure,

467
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: with you know, just and you know family. I want,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, I've always said I want a family for

469
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Speaker 1: my family, and I do. I want sure whoever that is.

470
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Speaker 1: I definitely want my family and their family to feel

471
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Speaker 1: a whole. That's really, really, really important to me.

472
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Speaker 2: And the other big piece of that for the listeners

473
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: is this, we want them as we do. Embrace the

474
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: imperfections because we're not perfect, but embrace what you have

475
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Speaker 2: in front of you going forward and knowing that there's

476
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: going to be challenges, there's going to be hurdles, and

477
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: if you can both overcome those challenges and hurdles. Oh

478
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, what a wonderful thing. You know. I like

479
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: to use the roller coaster analogy of life coaster, but

480
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: it's a two seat roller coaster for you both to

481
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: go through those ups and downs, in the swirls and

482
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: the oh here we got, you know, so we've got

483
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Speaker 2: to embrace the imperfections also, because we're not perfect.

484
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Speaker 1: I heard this beautiful quote from Maril Monroe where she

485
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Speaker 1: said that, you know, everyone is trying to smooth out

486
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Speaker 1: the rough edges, but the rough edges are what catched.

487
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Speaker 2: The light eight man. I just saw something on that

488
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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how gorgeous is that?

490
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Speaker 2: That is fabulous?

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Speaker 1: Mark Jacobs when I wrote this book, and Mark Jacobs

492
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Speaker 1: gave me a quote about how much he found so

493
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Speaker 1: much beauty and imperfection, and I just was always like,

494
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Speaker 1: that's what beauty is. Beauty is the interaction imperfection.

495
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: It really really is, and that's what makes who and

496
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: what we are. And we're constantly better than the person

497
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: we were yesterday. But it doesn't mean that I have

498
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: to be perfect in any form of the imagination.

499
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Speaker 1: Well, you are better every day than Let's make that clearer.

500
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Speaker 1: I mean you're like everyone, I'm like, not everyone, Gary,

501
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Sorry to burst the bubble. You Yes, what about? What

502
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: what about?

503
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: What about?

504
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: What about? On the Golden Bachelorette. Are you going to

505
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: introduce your girlfriend to any of the guys from this

506
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Speaker 1: premiere season or No?

507
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: I plan on doing that. And we have talked about

508
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: the guys who do have dates or people that they're

509
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: seeing I'm getting together and what a wonderful uh thing

510
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: that would be for the bromance and the brotherhood to

511
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: now share our new fan sweethearts. So yeah, we've talked

512
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: about that. No, quick, I'm not hiding this from anyone,

513
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: which is why i had to do my hard lunch

514
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: because I'm so proud of where I come from and

515
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: but more importantly where I'm going, right Kelly, It's where

516
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: we're going. It's where we're going.

517
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Speaker 1: It is. I mean, I'm just super super happy for you,

518
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: and I'm really really excited about, you know, everything that's

519
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: happening in your future. And I'm just interested to hear

520
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: what the guys from the Golden Busherd are going to say.

521
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm totally I want to be a fly on the wall.

522
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: I Am like.

523
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Speaker 2: We've already been sharing we've already been sharing and everybody

524
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: is so you know, we're all just happy for each other.

525
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a big celebration, you know, whenever

526
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: somebody says and this is who I've got and this

527
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: is who I'm and this is what i'm and it's

528
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: just like we're so happy for each other. It's like

529
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: a family member that's that's found, you know, what they've

530
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Speaker 2: been looking for, and it's it's great, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about the Okay, I have one more. I

532
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Speaker 1: have another one more question. That's for our fans. What

533
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: about the holidays. Are you guys going to be spending

534
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the holidays together? Like, what's your big plan?

535
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Well, as quiet as it's kept, and I'm going to

536
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: keep it quiet, but we will be traveling someplace together

537
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving and for the end of year after Christmas thing,

538
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: you know, doing the family thing. But yeah, so stay close, Kelly,

539
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: and I will I will keep you posting.

540
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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, let's talk about a little bit about the

541
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Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor. Do you think that mel will find love?

542
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's a tough one. That's a tough one.

543
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: I want him to, but I don't In my heart

544
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: of hearts?

545
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: Is he not open? What is it? What's you know?

546
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: It seems like he's very guarded, right, very It's just

547
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: like he's very protected and very guarded and not being vulnerable.

548
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any vulnerability. But that's what makes you,

549
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, lean in as opposed to working at arm's length.

550
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I haven't seen his vulnerabilities. And it's

551
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: unfortunate because that's what love is about, being vulnerable, isn't it.

552
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Well I'm learning that, I mean literally just from being

553
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: on this pod.

554
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: You have to be vulnerable.

555
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: I have been learning that. I mean, you have to

556
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: remember that I've spent my entire you know, thirties, you know,

557
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties and forties and fifties like on literally Lockdown,

558
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Protect Kelly, Protect her Kids, Provide mode, and so I

559
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: was always in so much fear and just to be

560
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: with someone who is just asks about me, wants to

561
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: make sure that I'm safe, wants to make sure that

562
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: I've eaten the things that I like. You just literally

563
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: just asks about me, versus tells me about what they're doing.

564
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: It's just a totally different narrative, and it's just made

565
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: me he's making me a better person.

566
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 2: Well, and would you say, or I should say, would

567
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: you agree with me that to be vulnerable you have

568
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: to feel safe. You have to feel safe to be vulnerable.

569
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Speaker 2: And that's a big part of letting go and trusting

570
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: and then knowing I'm in a safe place so I

571
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: can be vulnerable.

572
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: I was always like, the shoe is going to drop,

573
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Speaker 1: something's going to happen. There's going to be a girlfriend,

574
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: there's going to be this, there's gonna be an X

575
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: one that does something crazy, There's going to be something

576
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: that's you know, someone's going to say something mean that's

577
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: going to hurt my feelings. Like there's always going to

578
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: be a shoe that drops. And you're right, feeling safe

579
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: is a is a big, big news for me.

580
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: Huge things And let me ask you, are those things

581
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: important anymore? Or do they still matter? Because I would

582
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: think where you are now, those are things that, yeah,

583
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: it kind of really doesn't matter what it, you know,

584
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: the whatever.

585
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: All I care about is that. And this is one

586
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: thing that he did that was really stellar was that

587
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: he speaks so highly of his past relationships and that

588
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: and he doesn't ever say anything negative, nothing, It's always

589
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: like they're great, they're smart, they're doing this and one's

590
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: great and what's so great? There's no kind of like negativity.

591
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: And that made me also feel more safe too. And

592
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: it was never he's like what do you want to do.

593
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, stay home and eat steak and watch TV. Okay.

594
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's never like, oh, let's get dressed up

595
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, it's always very it's always

596
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: about like what we are doing together.

597
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: Which is really Kelly, you're good with just burgers and fries.

598
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: And you're all like having so much fun. It was

599
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: the best night.

600
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: That was so amazing, big red carpet burgers. That's like

601
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: at a diner. That was so that's one of those unforgettables.

602
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: We'll have the rest of our life unforgettables.

603
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: Well, Gary, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you

604
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Speaker 1: for sharing such a beautiful time in your life. I'm

605
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: so excited for you. I can't wait to come to

606
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: the way.

607
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: Stay close, I always do, stay close. I need you,

608
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Speaker 2: I need you.

609
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: I'm here for you.

610
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: Lots and lots of people need you, but I need

611
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: you too.

612
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. And I also love

613
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: how you talk about Leslie because she's such a beautiful

614
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: human she is. You're such a good guy.

615
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, honey. One thing, don't forget. Did you forget?

616
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Speaker 1: Be vulnerable?

617
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: You matter? You are genuinely do Okay, I love you.

618
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: Don't ever forget, and I'll always ask you did you forget?

619
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Speaker 1: No?

620
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: You matter?

621
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Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, I want to tell you something before we finish.

622
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Speaker 1: Is that Victoria Beckham was talking about she has this

623
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: new show, and she was talking about how at this

624
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: time of her where she is in her life, after

625
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: everything she's been to she said something that I feel

626
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: like I'm enough, just like you're saying you matter, I mean.

627
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: And then I said that. I was like, you know,

628
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: I actually feel like I am enough. And I was like,

629
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, what do I see right, I'm supposed

630
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: to be like panic, fear, provide children, work.

631
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Speaker 2: I'm not so to be like not anymore, not anymore.

632
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: It's now. It's about Kelly. It's your turn. It's your time.

633
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for you well you too, garry your boat.

634
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so excited, and go Dodgers. I wore

635
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: my hat to go. We're gonna We're gonna take the

636
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: world series from Tom.

637
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say go nixt because they.

638
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: See your season is just getting started. Ours is just

639
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: finishing up with the World Series. Go down.

640
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

641
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: I love you, thank you, thank you as well. Kellyank

642
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: me take care, Okayle.

643
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Speaker 1: Are you like Gary and I and want to find

644
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: love again? Stuck on how to navigate dating in chapter two?

645
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Call us or email us. All the info are in

646
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: the show notes. Follow us on socials. Make sure to

647
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: rate and review the podcast I Do Part two, an

648
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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio podcast. We're falling in Love is the main objective.

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Speaker 2: H