1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: and there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there, 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: and this is stuff you should know about Smoking Hitler, 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Smoking Hitler. Well, you know what's funny is uh, what's 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: funny about? Assessin? Well? I I got this idea because 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: I had listened to the recent friendly Fire podcast episode 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: on Valkyrie. Boy, you're just going all out on friendly Fire, 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: aren't it? Like it? Okay, it's good show, um, and 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: there aren't many people that know more about history than 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: John Roderick, Like, it's really impressive to hear that guy 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: go off like from the dome. No, I know, it's 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: got quite a brain. And hey, Ben Harrison's no slouch either. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: He's a little bit of a slouch. He's listening to this, 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: so I gotta rib him. But John at one point 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: in the show was like, I can't like this. You'll 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: see in the show it's such a convoluted plan to 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: blow up Hitler. And he's just like, I can't believe 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: in all those years they couldn't get one one person 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: to walk up and shoot him in the head. I 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: saw that to um in a couple of places, and 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: it is very vexing and perplexing. Then not one person 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: said and apparently people agreed to suicide missions. A lot 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: of people wanted to kill him, but personally they just 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: didn't go. They didn't go. But that what sound? Is 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: it like a luger make? I don't even know. I 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I can tell you what a dye in 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: German sounds like when they're falling off a building. Oh 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: is that the vilhelm screen? Well, we wouldn't put the 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: right one in anyway, so I forget. Yeah, anyway, it 31 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: just seems odd to me that because there were I 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: think fifteen or sixteen total plots to assassinate Hitler, and 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if there wasn't a single one that 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: was like you take a gun, walk up behind him 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: at his desk and shoot him in the head, and 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: then shoot yourself because it's going to go really badly 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: for you, right, Yeah, I mean they were all suicide missions, mostly, 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: not all of them, apparently. So Um, I was surprised 39 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: because I didn't realize. I think I had heard, like, 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, people had wanted to assassinate Hitler or something 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: like that. I didn't realize that Hitler was about his 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: charmed human being as far as surviving assassination tempts goes 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: as they come. Um, just didn't realize that, would you say, 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: like maybe fifteen sixteen plus this one? Okay? Um? And 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean like there were close calls, like somewhere you know, 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: he just missed his assassination by a couple of minutes 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: or a bomb didn't go off even though it was 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: fully functioning and should have been blown his plane out 49 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: of the sky. That's the contro bottle or whatever. So 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: it's not like he he went on as their fear 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: for lack of trying. It just didn't happen for some reason. 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: The assassination attempt that that most people think of when 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: they think of attempts to assassinate Hitler, especially if you're 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: a fan of Tom Cruise, especially if you're a fan 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: of Tom Cruise dressed as a pirate. Um is uh 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: the the Operation Valkyrie that we're about to talk about. 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: I watched that again today, and what do you think 58 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: of this time around? It's good. I like it. I 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: like the Cruise. It's the accent things weird, But you 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: just gotta get past it. He uh I saw. There 61 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: was like a pretty big outcry from Germans when he 62 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: was cast, when it was announced that he was going 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: to play class fund Stauffenberg because Klass von Stauffenbergers will 64 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: see as a national hero of Germany, and Germany does 65 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: not take kindly to scientology. It's yeah. They were not 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: really happy when Tom Cruises cast to play their national hero. 67 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: They said, crew, that was great. Thanks, so July, yes, like, 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: do you want to do the whole plan right here? 69 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Like we're working this out right, okay, alright, alright, new 70 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: new new plans or just like what happened. I've got it, 71 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: I've got it. We're gonna take a totally different tech 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: you already okay. So this Operation Valkyrie that we're talking about, 73 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: it took place. It was a called the July twenty 74 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: plot is what it's called. But the operation was actually 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: something larger than that, and as we'll see, it entailed 76 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people. And these were like high ranking 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: military officials, some of the highest military officials in the 78 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: German military, the Wehrmacht, saying that right, we're involved in 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: a plot to assassinate Hitler, and uh, ed put this 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: together for us any points out like, there are a 81 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of reasons people had to want to assassinate Hitler. 82 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: There was people who said, you know, uh, we're what 83 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: we're doing with the the extermination of the Jews and 84 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: other people is is like completely unconscionable and this needs 85 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: to have an end put to it. I think that 86 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: was mostly Kenneth branna Right, if we're going movie style, okay, um, 87 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: like in real life though he supposedly was the one that, yeah, 88 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: I had the true conscience of what they were doing 89 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: was wrong. Who who did he play? Trust Trust Cow? 90 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: He's it's a tough one, Henning von Trush Cow Trust 91 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: t r E s c. K Ow. I'm pretty sure 92 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I got that right, that that was the Kenneth Branno character, 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: and he genuinely was opposed to how they were doing 94 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: things right, Okay, So um, there was at least one 95 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: person who felt that way, but he was very much 96 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: in the minority. Yeah. There were another group of people 97 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: who thought, well, you know, these Nazis, they're kind of upstarts. 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: They're like nouveaux reiche politically speaking. Yeah, um, and they 99 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: don't really care about the old Guard well, I'm part 100 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: of the old Guard. My family landed gentry in Germany. 101 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: We have a nice tradition going back hundreds of years, 102 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: and now these Nazi up starts are moving my family 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: out of power. We're no longer in the elite, and 104 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't like that. That's another reason why people wanted 105 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: to get Yeah, and I think they were, like the 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: majority of the people in this plot were those people 107 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: like they weren't idealist democratic people who wanted like they 108 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: were just trying to protect their heritage. Some of them 109 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: were anti fascists, not all of them, but then there 110 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: was definitely a through line that a lot of people 111 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: bought into and may have even been a major motivator 112 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: for a lot of people to um. By the time 113 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: July rolled around, it was very clear to most people, 114 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: uh inside of Germany and out who were paying attention 115 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and who knew everything, that Germany could not win World 116 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: War two any longer. After Normandy it was dead exactly 117 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: the water Yeah, um, when once we made it to Normandy, 118 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: it was it was over. And not only have we 119 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: made it to Normandy by this time, but we we 120 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: had supplies coming in, we had more and more troops 121 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: coming in we were overrunning Europe. Now Europe was was ours. 122 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Plus the Russians were moving their way westward from the east. 123 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Not a good position for Germany to be in between 124 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: the Allies and the Russians. Um Italy, Mussolini had been overthrown. 125 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: So Italy was now this soft underbelly, as Winston Churchill 126 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: put it, that could be attacked from Africa. Was he 127 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: gone by this time? He was a puppet dictator in 128 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: the northern part of Italy that was protected by Germany 129 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: because the most of Italy was gone. The movie may 130 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: be wrong, but the movie they were like Mussolini's coming 131 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: for lunch or whatever. That's true. But he had lost 132 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: most of Italy by this time. But that left Italy 133 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: exposed to attack from Africa, and Africa had just recently 134 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: been lost by Rommel. So Germany was in no position 135 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: to win World War two. So there were a lot 136 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: of people, high ranking officials in the military. You said, Okay, 137 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: before they actually make their way into Germany, that's a 138 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: point of no return. Maybe we can get it a 139 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: hitler and negotiate a peace that that keeps our republic intact. Yeah, 140 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: and supposedly had even spoken to some of the Allied 141 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: leaders like, hey, let's just say Hitler was not around, 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: just just hypothetically, what would that look like for for 143 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: the rest of us, Like, how could we come out 144 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: of this? Okay? Yeah, uh, no one knows truly how. 145 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how far down the road those talks went, 146 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: but it had been mentioned. So the supposedly their point 147 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: of contact was Alan Dulles, one of the Dullest brothers 148 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: who would later overthrow the um government of Guatemala, among 149 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: other things, as CIA director the airport Dulless. Yea interesting, 150 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: same dulless As, But that's who they were talking to. 151 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: He was like the CIA or the OSS station chief 152 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: of Switzerland at the time. But I think the Germans 153 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, we will do this and we'll get 154 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: rid of Hitler and we want to remain, you know, 155 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: keep Germany intact. But the Russians cannot be part of 156 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: the peace talks. We've done some things that they're not 157 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: very happy about and they can't be part of it. 158 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: And the Allies wouldn't wouldn't take that off of the table. Yeah, 159 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: because if the Russians were in there negotiating, it would 160 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: be a much different story for Germany. So all of 161 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: these guys knew that Germany could not win the war. Hitler, 162 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: who was running the show, still had very different ideas. 163 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: His idea of fighting this war was, We're going to 164 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: fight this war until the very last German is killed. 165 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: Every man, woman, child who can pick up a gun 166 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: is going to fight to the death against these invaders 167 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: of our homeland. And and I'm totally out of my 168 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: mind and I'm taking the whole country down with me. Yeah. 169 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: And in the in the Vulkyrie film, they even say, like, 170 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, with the Normandy going on and what's happened there, 171 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: and he's just sort of like, well, I don't know 172 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Everything's going great, right, give me 173 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: some more crystal meth? Did he do that? That's the 174 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: legend that that crystal meth was invented by Nazi scientists, 175 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: and that upper echelon Nazis were all into that big time. Man, 176 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: there's so many, like of all the people in history, 177 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: like so many things that are horrific and true, and 178 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: then so many weird stories from like Nazi treasure hunting 179 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: to crystal meth addiction. It's just crazy. I wrote a 180 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: really interesting new Yorker article about people who treasure hunt 181 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: for Nazi treasures in Poland in the mountains of Poland. 182 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: And the thing that gives gravity to these claims is 183 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: that there really are enormous tunnels in the mountains in 184 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Poland that you could fit train folds of gold in 185 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: and um, they think that they actually might have something 186 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: to them, even though that's supposedly a hoax, the Nazi 187 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: gold thing, supposedly, but again, they have these tunnel networks 188 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: that are like, really there. It's not like there are 189 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: the tunnels themselves are urban legend. It's just these tunnel 190 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: networks are so expansive that no one's ever app them all, gotcha, 191 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: But they do exist. So there may be a gold 192 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: rich poss wing that no one's ever found. Yeah. Interesting, 193 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: So wow, that was a lot. Do you want to 194 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: take a break and then get into it, tomorre you're 195 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: ready to keep plugging along? No, man, let's uh, let's 196 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: talk about killing Hitler right after this. So Hitler. Uh. 197 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: Hitler had done a lot up into this point to 198 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: have total control over Germany and over the state, whether 199 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: it was controlling what news went out to, having people 200 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: swear oaths of loyalty to him as a person, not Germany, 201 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: like it really at me today, the Hyle Hitler thing 202 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: like soldiers saying Hyle Hitler to one another when Hitler 203 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: is not around. It's not like I would understand if like, well, 204 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: sure you'd do that to Hitler. But he was having 205 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: them do that to everyone. It wasn't like long lived Germany. 206 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: It was Heil Hitler. And they're like, he's nowhere near here, 207 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: are you realize? You're like, yeah, but we gotta say 208 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: this otherwise we're toasted. And I think over time, like 209 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: even when you are forced to do that or kind 210 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: of brainwashed into doing there or whatever, you kind of 211 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: adopt that that sense, like like the eagerness. You know 212 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: it's weird. It's because it's just it's bizarre. It is bizarre. Um. 213 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: The other thing we should mention really quickly too, before 214 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: we move on, is the the sipping hoft uh. This 215 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: was an ancient Middle Aged blood law basically where they 216 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: say from Germany, where they were like, you know, if 217 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: you're guilty of a crime, your whole family is. And 218 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: as you will see, Project Valkyrie was reason enough for 219 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: for Himler to dust that off. Say, remember that ancient custom. Well, 220 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: we're just gonna do it here. Yeah, it wasn't even 221 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: further back than that to like the second century BC. 222 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: From what I saw, it's crazy. So it's basically the 223 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: idea is, if you are a trader, that means you 224 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: have traitorous blood in you, and since you've passed your 225 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: bloodline along, then all of the members of your family 226 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: must have that same traitor as blood. So the whole 227 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: family has to be wiped out. That's the idea behind it. 228 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: It's not clear if Himler just made this up or whatever, 229 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: but there was that threat of of if you do 230 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: something to um put the family into to to put 231 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: yourself in jeopardy, you put the whole family in jeopardy. 232 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: People like basically spying on not just their neighbors, but 233 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: on their own family members. Yeah, and if you want 234 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: to hatch a plot to kill Hitler, then that puts 235 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: your family at risk exactly, not just yourself. Yeah. And 236 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: then plus also um the the it's you can't really 237 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: discount the that he really thoroughly controlled the media. So 238 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: if there was a resistance, if there were people who 239 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: did great acts of protest or whatever, it would just 240 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: be lost. It would not be reported on, and so 241 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: whatever spark they created couldn't grow into a flame. So 242 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: there was a tremendous amount of control. And even today 243 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: historians are still debating how complicit the actual people of 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Germany were and how much they were coerced into following Hitler. 245 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: It's a it's a real bone of contention among historians today. Well, 246 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was a very mixed bag of allegiances 247 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: and loyalties and like what people truly believed in what 248 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: they were, you know, they weren't getting the real information anyway, 249 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: you know exactly. And then that on top of the 250 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: whole family is going to get wiped out if you 251 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: do something could keep people in line, alright. So the 252 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Operation Valkyrie itself, like we said, killing Hitler was a 253 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: small part, well not a small part, a major part, 254 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: But Operation Valkyrie itself was a larger plan uh to 255 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: rest control of of the German government basically from the 256 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Nazis and the s S. Yeah, it was an existing 257 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: operation that got co opted and made a part of 258 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: the plot to assassinate Hitler because they knew that just 259 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: killing Hitler wasn't enough, because someone I guess Hitler would 260 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: have just stepped in this place. Yeah, there's evidence that 261 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: Himmler knew about this plot and basically letting it happen 262 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: so he could do of course. So uh, here was 263 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: a deal. Operation Valkyrie was a contingency plan and this 264 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: was set up with Hitler's signature, uh, to control the 265 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: reserve army of Germany. So there was basically I couldn't 266 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: tell if it was like our reserves over here. I 267 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: don't know. It wasn't quite like that because they maybe 268 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: like the National Guard, you think, yeah, because it says 269 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: that they were called up to um to support the front, 270 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: and you call up the National Guards sometimes here in 271 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: the United States, right, Yeah, I think it was. It 272 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: would be like, well, they were the remnants of the 273 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: German army that was left back. They were the army 274 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: that was still in Germany at this point. They weren't 275 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: out fighting and on the front lines, although they could 276 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: be called. They were there to defend Germany. Yeah, exactly. So, Uh, 277 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: if the call came through and Operation Valkyrie was enacted, 278 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: that basically meant that something's gone wrong, and not necessarily 279 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the Hitler's dead, but um, something's gone wrong and that 280 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: army needs to mobilize basically and keep it the status 281 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: quo until they hear further. Then there were two people 282 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: who were who were authorized to start Operation Valkyrie, which 283 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: was essentially a signal like you said that something's gone 284 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: wrong and the army needs to regain control of the country. 285 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Um it was Hitler and Friedrich Frome. It was the army, 286 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: Reserve Army leader and um if From basically said to 287 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the Reserve Army Operation Valkyries. In effect, the Reserve Army 288 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: would fight whoever From told them to, which is Tom Wilkinson. 289 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: If you're playing at home, man, that guy. He's great, 290 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: great actor. He had this English accent in full effect. Heir, 291 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is speaking American. It's all over the map. 292 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. It was a weird decision. Lots of weird decision. 293 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: It was at the time. I mean, have you seen it. 294 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: I started to and then stopped. Yeah. Yeah, I thought 295 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: it was a good movie. But I'm sure it was. 296 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember what it was, but 297 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I know that that Brian Singer, the director, 298 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: made the conscious choice. He was like, I don't want 299 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: everyone doing these bad german accents. Everybody do different weird, 300 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: so just talk how you talk. And it's a little confusing, 301 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean not confusing, because you know they're Germans because 302 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: they're wearing those fantastic outfits by Hugo Ball. Is that true? Yes, 303 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: I heard that he was co opted but not didn't 304 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: actually design the uniforms. Uh. I think it's probably like 305 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the Adidas, the Danzler brothers Rember their factory was co 306 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: opted to make torpedoes. I'm pretty sure the same thing happened. 307 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: But Hugo Boss's thing was to make the uniforms. Um. 308 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's true. I just wondered if 309 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: he actually designed them. That's what I heard. That's what 310 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Russell Brand says, and by god, there's ever been a 311 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: truth teller, it's that guy, so Truscou Kenneth Branda, like 312 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: I was saying, he was the one that was really 313 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: um opposed to the brutality of Nazism, and he's the 314 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: one that developed these amendments to Operation Balkyrie for this plan, 315 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: which from what I could tell, was basically two speed 316 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: everything up a lot because they had a limited amount 317 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: of time once they killed Hitler to pull this off. 318 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: And I think it was like Operation Valker was supposed 319 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: to be six or eight hours, and he was now, 320 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: we need to get this done in like two or three. 321 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: So those are the amendments that he created, I think so, 322 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: in addition to some other stuff. But I think it 323 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: was speed mainly, all right, which is ironic because it 324 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: actually got slowed down in the in the in the execution. 325 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Um but the so again, just to restate because it 326 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: is a little confusing, Operation Valkyrie was an existing Nazi 327 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: plan or German Army plan for the Reserve Army the 328 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: National Guard back home in Germany to take control of 329 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: the country. Um in in the event Operation Valkyrie was enacted, 330 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: and that could be because there was an uprising in 331 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: a in a concentration camp. It could be that there 332 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: was some sort of revolt that this, whatever it was, 333 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: it was an official Nazi German military plan that existed 334 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: that got co opted by the assassination plotters to tailor 335 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: it so that they could use it in a conjunction 336 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: with assassinating Hitler and basically trick the Reserve arm Me 337 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: into doing their bidding. And everyone, that's three times now. 338 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: If you don't get it, now, just listen to something else, Okay, 339 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: go listen to Friendly Fire. He's talking to me everybody. 340 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: He wants me to stop explaining. Will there be a 341 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: fourth time? Okay? So, uh well, I guess we need 342 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Tom Cruise, who was 343 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: sort of the main player in this assassination attempt. Yeah, 344 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: we gotta talk a lot about him. This is the 345 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: guy who was who's become a national um hero in Germany. Yeah, 346 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: and here's a deal like history, and certainly that film 347 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: painted him as a as a hero. I mean, he 348 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: was a tried and true Nazi um up and you know, 349 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: up to a point where he decided to kill Hitler. 350 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: But he was not some like great guy who was 351 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: always like, no, to think what we're doing is wrong, guys, 352 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: we should really rethink this. His brother was his brother 353 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: Barthold Am I pronouncing that correctly b E R T 354 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: h O l D. Yeah. Okay. His brother Bart told 355 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: his older brother Um was in this plot too, and 356 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: he actually was um tortured and gave a confession. And 357 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: apparently in his confession he said, you know, no, we 358 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: generally agree with what the Nazis are doing. We just 359 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: think Hitler is a little too um uh over eager 360 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: over zealous about spilling German blood, uh and trying to 361 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: conquer the world. But everything else we pretty much agree with. 362 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, these guys were they were Nazis, they were 363 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: just anti Hitler basically. Yeah. So, um, Klaus fin Stauffenberg 364 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: had been wounded previously I think in Africa, right, yes, 365 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: under Rammel. Yeah, and was. Um. In fact, that scene 366 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: of the film is really good, that's pretty accurate his 367 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: his There's a bombing and a and a stray thing 368 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: from a plane that he gets like full on all 369 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: over his body, loses his right hand and everything but 370 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: too Inger's and his thumb on his left, loses his 371 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: left eye and as basically he's got two functioning fingers 372 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: and a thumb at this point. Yes, not the perfect 373 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: person to carry out a very highly technical bomb planting. Yeah, 374 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: and that's definitely going to come into play. But apparently 375 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: um Stauffenberg, Klaus Staffenberg said, you know enough of this, 376 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: like people losing their nerve, quatro bombs not going off. 377 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, if you want to done it right, 378 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: just do it yourself. Is basically apparently what his policy was. 379 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: He said, I'll do it, I'll kill Hitler. Yeah, He 380 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: never said maybe I should just shoot him in the head. Yeah, 381 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: Well he wanted to live, as evidenced by the actual 382 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: plot that they came up with. Well, plus they also 383 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: wanted um not wanted they they sort of demanded that 384 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: that Himmler be in the room at the time and 385 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: also be taken out. Otherwise, what's the point, right, So 386 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: this July twenty plot that we're working up to was 387 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: actually could have been called like the I think July 388 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: second plot or the July eighth plot. There were like 389 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: a few different attempts that were aborted, and one of 390 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: them was because Himmler and Garing I believe or were 391 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: meant to be in the room with Hitler and they weren't, 392 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: so they called it off. Apparently Klaus Strassburg decided on 393 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: his own, he's gonna von Stroffenberg. Straffenberg, I keep playing 394 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: to say Strassburg um Straffenberg decided on his own he's 395 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: gonna kill Hitler anyway, And when he went back in 396 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: the room to do it after reporting that that Himmler 397 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: and Garing weren't there um to kill Hitler, Hitler had 398 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: just left. The meeting ended early like that. That was 399 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: the kind of like luck that Hitler had. Yeah, and 400 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: that was played out pretty accurately in the movie. Actually, 401 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: um like he was like, all right, I'm gonna do it, 402 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: and they're like meetings adjourned said wait wait, I have 403 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: something else to say. Um, just to kind of reset 404 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: with who the major or what the major players are doing. 405 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: We mentioned Frederick fron him Tom Wilkinson in the movie. 406 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: He was the head of the Reserve Army. And then 407 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: there was another key player named Friedrich olbrick Um who 408 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: was He was the one that basically was because from 409 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: was like, I kind of know about this, but I'm 410 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: not I'm not going to play a part in it, 411 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna wrat you out either, So I'm 412 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: just gonna see where the chips fall. Very cowardly. Yeah, 413 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: he he would have basically gone with whoever was in 414 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: charge or whoever was on top, so he wouldn't report it. 415 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: But he also wouldn't sign the order himself, which meant 416 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: that Old Brick had to actually issue a fake order 417 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: in from his name, uh mobilizing that you know, basically 418 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: Operation Balkris in effect. Right, So Albricht from and uh 419 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Staffenberg were all Reserve Army high officials, and again the 420 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: Reserve Army is the one who can take control of 421 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: the country under operation. We should have a sound effect 422 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: every time we explain that, maybe Jerry will surprise us. Um, 423 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: all right, should we talk about the actual day on? 424 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: I think we should? Alright, So Hitler is in the 425 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: Wolf's Layer. That's where he spent it was, Um, I 426 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: guess it would have been Poland. Huh yeah, East Prussia, 427 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: which is part of Poland. Yeah, so that was where 428 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: he was hanging out towards the end of the war. 429 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: Heavily fortified, heavily on meth. Well, that would actually make 430 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a lot of sense, because he was increasingly paranoid. Yes, 431 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: that's I think that's part of your evidence. Locked in 432 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: a bunker doing meth probably doesn't help. In East Prussia 433 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: they call it the East Prussia Blues. So uh, the 434 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: I guess it's called the wolf the wolf Shanza in German. 435 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: But give it some flavor the um. But just very 436 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: heavily fortified, like his actual bunker. An area was like 437 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: concrete with like steel doors. It was where that where 438 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: you would keep Hitler at that point in the war, right, 439 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: or where Hitler would keep himself. So there was on 440 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: this July twenty plot. There again they wanted Himmler and 441 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: um Garing, if not Gribbles too. Uh in the room 442 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: with Hitler was the big one they wanted, right because 443 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: he was the heir apparent, right. But if you'll notice, 444 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: as many times as they tried to do this, um 445 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Himmler was nowhere around Hitler at this time, which is 446 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: again evidence that Himler knew something was up and wasn't 447 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: about to be in the same room as Hitler at 448 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: any point because they knew that. He knew that they 449 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: wanted to kill Hitler and take him out too, so 450 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: he was just gonna let it play out. So they 451 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: decided to just go ahead and assassinate Hitler at least, 452 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: and this Wolf Slayer was a perfect location to assassinate 453 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: Hitler if it was an inside job. He said, you 454 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: could not get to him in there from the outside, 455 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: but if you could get in, you could get to 456 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: him really well. Because these concrete reinforced bunkers with steel 457 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: doors that had no windows. If you set off a 458 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: bomb in there, it would be amplified. It would have 459 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: the the concussion from the bomb, the blast, the shock 460 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: wave would have nowhere to go, so it would just 461 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: reverberate around the room until it finally went out of steam, 462 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: and it would kill everybody in there. No matter where 463 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: you were, no matter what you were doing, you would 464 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: be dead from this blast. So it was a really 465 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: good idea. When they showed up on July, Staffenberg and 466 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: his assistant with two briefcases that each had a time 467 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: bomb in it with two pounds of plastic explosives, one 468 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: of those would have killed everybody. They had double the amount. Yeah, 469 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: and the guy that set this all up in the 470 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: in the movie basically said that he was like, this 471 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: is pretty redundant to have du with these, like in 472 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: that bunker. One of these will kill everyone in that room, right, Um, Like, 473 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: don't sweat it, guys. Nothing can go wrong, yea, even 474 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: though you have to stick this metal thing in there 475 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: and crack it with a pair of pliers and I 476 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: noticed you've only got two fingers, but this should be fine. Um, 477 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: nothing can go wrong. What went wrong was something that 478 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: no one anticipated is that meeting and this changed everything. Uh. 479 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: That meeting didn't take place in the bunker, supposedly because 480 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: it was too hot, too hot. Hitler didn't like to 481 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: sweat and he was loaded on meth. Right, So they 482 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: moved this this meeting where they were going to go 483 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: over strategy, like detailed strategy maps and everything, from this 484 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: death inducing bunker to basically a hut, a flimsy hut 485 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: almost open air. It was so flimsy and windows and everything. 486 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: I think the windows were open too because it was hot. Okay. Um. 487 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: The roof was just kind of like whatever, it might 488 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: as well have been thatched. And then the the room 489 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: also featured a table, a heavy slab oak table with 490 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: heavy oaken legs, and that's what they had the maps 491 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: out on that was this will be a big deal 492 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: in a second. Yeah, So the plan is we we 493 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: go in there. We uh they were gonna fake like 494 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: he needed to change his shirt because he got some 495 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: blood from cutting his neck while shaving. Yeah, and so 496 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: that's where he would get some private time to um 497 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: to activate the bomb. He knew he would have you know, 498 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: ten minutes maybe less to get out of there once 499 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: he did that. So uh they did. So they broke 500 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: these capsules. Um went in there and the plan was 501 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: that he was gonna have it set up where uh, 502 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: he had someone faking a call coming in to get 503 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: him out of the room, in which he would say, 504 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I gotta get to Berlin. I got orders like I 505 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: gotta leave now, and Hitler would be like, uh, I 506 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: give the orders here? Who told you to go to Berlin? Well, 507 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Hitler wouldn't know about any of this. He's knee deep 508 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: and pounding tables and yelling. So um, they have they 509 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: have the briefcases. They only get a chance because as 510 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: there um cutting open the acid capsule on the one, 511 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I guess a century outside like called through the door 512 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: to them, scared them. Yeah, they were like, hey, dude, 513 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: the meeting starting, okay, so they had to head out. 514 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: That was another thing. The meeting time change from one 515 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: to twelve thirty because Mussolini was coming and they wanted 516 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: to make sure they were done in time for his arrival. Okay. 517 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: So um, they only got to activate one of the 518 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: bombs and they just left the other one. They didn't 519 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: take it in with them, they just kept it with them, 520 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: So they were down to one bomb. They were in 521 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: a different venue than the bomb had been planned for. 522 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: And then now this heavy oak table comes into into play. Yeah, 523 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: so while they were in there, they set it down 524 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: near Hitler or you know Stauffenberg does. Um. A man 525 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: named Heinz brunt Um went stepped close to the table 526 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: so we could see things better, knocked over the briefcase. 527 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: It's just so like, are you kidding me? With like 528 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: how history plays out. He if he hadn't kicked over 529 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: that thing, it might have still worked. But he kicked 530 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: over the briefcase, moved it to the other side of 531 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: one of those big, heavy oak legs. The bomb does 532 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: go off, and Staufenberg gets the heck out of there 533 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: quick like, and in his mind he's like that bomb, 534 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: that explosion was massive, Like everyone's dead. Yeah, and when 535 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: we're gone, he and his assistant. Yeah, So he heads 536 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: out from the Wolf's Layer to a waiting airplane at 537 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: the nearby air base to fly back to Berlin and 538 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: start Operation Valkyrie. Right, that's where we're going to leave 539 00:31:34,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: it for now. Yeah, we'll be back right after this, Okay, chuck. 540 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: So Stoffenberg just said, off this bomb, He and his 541 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: assistant are on their way to Berlin, right, Yeah, three 542 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: hour flight and while he's in the air, Valkyrie is 543 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: supposed to have started, right. But here's the problem. There 544 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: was a guy stationed at the Wolf Slayer who was 545 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: meant to report on this and basically say, go ahead, 546 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: do your thing. Operation Valkyrie's a go. Hitler's dead, but 547 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: they hadn't considered that Hitler might survive this assassination attempt, 548 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: didn't come up with any code word for that. So 549 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: the guy was just kind of clumsily like trying to 550 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: be like, you know, things aren't so great. Um uh, 551 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: something big happened, but not not happened happig So so 552 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: they're like, we don't know what you're talking about because 553 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: people are listening basically, so um. They the guys back 554 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: in Berlin, these assassination plotters, these conspirators, get this mess 555 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: and from the Wolf Slayer, and they still don't know 556 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: what's going on. They just know something has happened. They 557 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: don't know if Hitler's dead or what. So the guy 558 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: is a Albricht who decides to wait until Staffenberg comes 559 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: back to enact Operation Valkyrie. So there's a three hour 560 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: delay between the bomb going off and the implementation of 561 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: Operation Valkyrie. Yeah, and if you recall back at the beginning, 562 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: they sped this whole thing up by three hours in 563 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: the official plans that Hitler signed off on. So timing 564 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: was important, So in Tom Cruise Lands He's like, dude, 565 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? It was three hours ago? Right? 566 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: So um, that was that was a big problem with it. 567 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: The second problem was that they didn't cut the lines 568 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: from the wolf Slayer, and apparently even Gebel's like mocked 569 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: them later after this. They didn't even cut the telephone lines, 570 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: didn't cut them. They ceased communications. They tried to as 571 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: as they could, but they didn't have control of the 572 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: wolf Slayer. They just could. All they could do is 573 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: kind of clumsily mess up the communications to delay it. 574 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: But there was no radio silence from the wolfs Layer, 575 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: which would have let Operation Valkyrie play out. Instead, Germany 576 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of conflicting reports and different things going on. 577 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: It was total chaos. Is Hitler alive? Is Hitler dead? Um? 578 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: Who's in charge? And so when when Stauffenberg gets back 579 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: and finds out all Brick has been waiting sitting on 580 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Operation Valkyrie, he immediately is like, put it into into play. 581 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: It's going um one way or another. We don't know 582 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: if it's Hitler's dead or not, but we're going ahead 583 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: with Operation Valkyrie. Because no one knows the Hitler's dead 584 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: or not, so we could considerably pull it off. Yeah, 585 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: and I think there were um I think it was 586 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: like Paris, Prague, maybe Vienna, where some of the strongholds 587 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: where they needed these people to get on board and start, 588 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, gathering up the ss UH. In Paris, the 589 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: quartermaster of the German troops there did receive the message 590 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: set the coup in motion, and I think it might 591 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: have happened in Prague, but like things were happening, but 592 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: Berlin was the big one because they knew like even 593 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: if they got Paris and the others like fully on 594 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: board and finished, you know, with their duties, if they 595 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: didn't have Berlin, they were still kind of screwed. So 596 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: they they actually didn't have Berlin. It was kind of 597 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: like a seesaw whether they were going to have Berlin 598 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 1: or not. Um, there was enough confusion that I think 599 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: the guy who was in charge of the Reserve Army 600 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: at the time, um, I didn't know which way to 601 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: go from. Well, yeah, from was the sort of coward 602 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: that was just he just wanted to not get ratted out. 603 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: He just wanted things to turn out well for him. 604 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: So he um, he he sees the chance to basically 605 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: realigned himself with Hitler because it's clear that the it 606 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: looks like the coup's probably not going to work. So 607 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: his allegiance is back a Hitler, and so he tries 608 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: to arrest Staffenberg and Obricht, and they in turn arrest him, 609 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: and there's apparently a shootout right in the actual War 610 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: Ministry building. Yeah, because there were literally two different sets 611 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: of orders official orders coming out because they were because 612 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: of miscommunication. There were two different people controlling the German Army. 613 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: We'll find the German government, right, And so finally there 614 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: was a guy who was truly confused. One of the 615 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Reserve Army leaders was genuinely confused. He was trying to 616 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: follow orders because he thought that there was an S 617 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: S uprising like the Operation Valkyrie plotters had said. And apparently, 618 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: uh he got on the phone with Hitler and Hitler 619 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: said do you recognize my voice? And the guy was 620 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: like yeah. He goes, I'm telling you to arrest these 621 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: people that the Nazis are still in charge, and to 622 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: disregard these other orders, to send them more crystal mess 623 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: right supplies low uh uh And and here's the deal 624 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: Hitler had ordered, um he wanted them taken alive, um, 625 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: whereas From was trying to speed up their execution so 626 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: he wouldn't get ratted out. Uh And basically, and and 627 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: I think this is kind of true how it played 628 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: out in the movie. Um, Chalfenberg is like you're going 629 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: down to like you realize this, like nobody will be spared. 630 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: So you're kidding yourself if you think this kangaroo court 631 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna run us through was gonna make any difference. 632 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: So From said, Okay, well then I'll just have you 633 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: guys summarily executed. Yeah what what he did? Yeah? This court, Um, 634 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of the definition of a kangaroo court in history. 635 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: It was called the People's Court, which is kind of funny. 636 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: There was no judge Wapner hanging out. There was a 637 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: judge Freislow though. Um, and there's actually footage of this guy. 638 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: He had this really shrill voice and he would This 639 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: was a court where you would run people in and 640 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: just have a chance of like conviction by hanging or 641 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: firing squad. Yeah, there was a run by um Nazi 642 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: fanatics and it was a court designed to try people 643 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: who resisted Nazism. Yeah, and the sippen Hoff that we 644 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: mentioned that all your family is guilty too. This was 645 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: really where it got enacted, uh, the heaviest and I 646 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: think like seven thousand people were arrested in this plot. 647 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Seven thousand people were arrested, five thousand were executed. Man, 648 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: so they really went to town in that sippen Hoff thing. Um, 649 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: they they took babies, infants and put them in concentration 650 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: care for for children under sixteen. Um. The Staffenberg brothers, 651 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: so From summarily executed Klaus Stoffenberg that night at the 652 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: war ministry. UM. It's something I saw I thought was 653 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of cool. His assistant jumped in front of the 654 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: bullets originally intended for Stoffenberg, and then they still killed 655 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: Steffenberg anyway, but From was trying to cover up as 656 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: tracks it did work. From was among the executed at 657 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: this later kangaroo court. I think he was executed in 658 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: March and as part of this the Sippenhoft. It was 659 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: just basically if there had been any restraints whatsoever on 660 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: Hitler in the Nazis in Germans or Germany, um, which 661 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: you could really make the case like there really weren't. 662 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: If there were, they were off now at once Hitler 663 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: realized that this was part of a larger plot, he 664 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: went berserk and it just became a blood orgy for him, 665 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: just killing everybody, anyone he could find that might have 666 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: anything remotely to do with this plot. He killed. He 667 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: killed people who have been prisoners for years. He went 668 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: through and did another purge of people who had just 669 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: been in prison, you know, for maybe thinking of assassinating 670 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: him years back. Totally unrelated. Um, they were just as 671 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: the the Allies started to move in and the Russian 672 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: started to move and they started killing people in the 673 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: concentration camps, just stepping it up even more. And there's 674 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: a there's a really good possibility that a lot of 675 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: those people would have lived had that bomb worked, had 676 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: it killed Hitler. Um, there's a there the the the 677 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: idea that there were people waiting to negotiate a piece 678 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: immediately a surrender of Germany. Um, all those people who 679 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: died after July would have lived. Yeah. I think some 680 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: of them were offered the opportunity to take their own life, 681 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: which quite a few of them did. Um. Like literally, 682 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: like here's a gun, just go in the other room. 683 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: So Ram was a very famous example of that. Yeah, 684 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: I think did he signide himself. He was given He 685 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: was given the opportunity to take a cyanide pill. Um. 686 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: Some Gestapo guys came to his house and said, here's 687 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: how it is. If you're a national hero, if you 688 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: if it comes out that you were part of this plot, 689 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: people are going to start questioning Hitler and Nazism. So 690 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: we can't have that. We're gonna give you the opportunity 691 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: to kill yourself and we won't make your family part 692 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: of this. Sippenhof will leave your family alone. So he 693 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: chose to take his own life rather than um, rather 694 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: than let his family go through this and and be 695 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: court martialed and executed anyway, So he killed himself as 696 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: a as a from this plot. Yeah, So there was 697 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: a cyanide, There was gunshots that you put upon yourself, 698 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: There were firing squad and then there was the meat 699 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: hook hanging, which was um. Hitler would require that certain 700 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: of these people had wire tied around their throat and 701 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 1: then that was hung from a meat hook and Bear 702 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: told von st Staffenberg was one of those guys. Oh brother, Yes, 703 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: he was UM. He was strangled multiple times and revived 704 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: so that they could strangle him again and Hitler. The 705 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: whole thing was filmed for Hitler to watch later. So yeah, 706 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: it was he went berserve after that. Apparently, if you 707 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: went to go visit Hitler, you, um, even as one 708 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: of his loyal like Nazi military officials, you had to 709 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: leave your gun outside. Yeah. I think that might have 710 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: been a rule anyway, because or maybe it was just 711 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: tradition to leave your your side arm and you know, 712 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: outside the room. Um, because they were doing that in 713 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: the movie. Yeah, but you know, I think on Roderick 714 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 1: Show he was like, well you could stick a gun 715 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: in your pocket and your little guard, yeah wherever in 716 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: your sock garter sure or your thie guard. Yeah, it 717 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: depending on what you're into. Um, I think that's it. 718 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't go after because, uh, von Strassenberg's 719 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: family was not punished, like his wife died like ten 720 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: or twelve years ago, right, but she was sent to 721 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: a concentration camp and was liberated from it after the 722 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: after the war. But they, I mean she went to 723 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: a concentration camp for sure, his brother. I can't believe 724 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: they weren't. He and her and her kids weren't killed 725 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: though the spot Yeah, it's weird apparently the arbitrary and 726 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: its just increased the terror of it too. You know, 727 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: well that makes sense. So, uh, that is the July 728 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: twenty plot. Okay, to assassinate Hitler. Uh. If you want 729 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: to know more about that, go listen to the uh 730 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: the friendly Fire episode on it. Yeah, it's a good one. 731 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: And Hitler, by the way, he was gone I think 732 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: nine months later, right, so it wasn't. I mean, this 733 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: is towards the end anyway, but which makes it even worse. Yeah, 734 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, all right, so if you already said that, 735 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: it means it's time for listener me so quick follow 736 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: up on administrative details. We said if we forgot someone 737 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: uh and lost Embarni wrote in and it did. Forget 738 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 1: this one. Um. I sent an early color color study 739 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: of my Pando painting and wanted to make sure to arrive. 740 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: It's about three by five inches and an envelope and 741 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: it did and it's wonderful and lovely and very sorry 742 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: Lawson for that sneaking bias. I also want to say 743 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: I got something from Alison Gallagher as well. Oh now 744 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: he hadn't realized it, so thank you Allison for my gifts. 745 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: Too nice. It wasn't just chuck that you sent stuff too. 746 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: And you can find Lawson's art at Lawson Barney art 747 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Yeah, it's beautiful pain very nice. All right, 748 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: listener mail this is uh. It was a very sweet 749 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: sweet emo from a couple. Hey guys, Rightney, thank you 750 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: for always being there on our long car rides. My wife, 751 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: me and I have to travel twelve hours from our 752 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: home in Butte, Montana, to Salt Lake City for her 753 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: cancer treatment at Huntsman Cancer Institute every couple of months, 754 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: and learning something new from you guys is always a 755 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: welcome edition on our drive. I thought of her type 756 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: of cancer h and the treatment as an interesting idea 757 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: for an episode. She was diagnosed with a rare cancer 758 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: called uh neuro endocrine tumor in ET. It's on her pancreas, 759 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: but it's very different from and create a cancer. So 760 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: when Steve jobs in a wreath of franklin um pass 761 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: of this type of cancer, it's always reported the news 762 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: is paying creatic cancer, which is incorrect and very disappointing 763 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 1: because it does take away awareness from n ET cancer. 764 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: The treatment is called peptide receptor radio nuclei therapy it 765 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: works in a way that sounds like science fiction. The 766 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: treatment is done through I V and is combined in 767 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: two parts. One part is attracted to cancer cells and 768 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: is welcomed into the cell. The second part is attached 769 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: to the first and releases a small amount of radiation 770 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: when inside the cancer cells. Very fascinating and my explanation 771 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: is very much glossed over. Again, thank you for the show. 772 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: Last thing, can you give my wife Mia a shout out? 773 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: That is from bo Miller, so of course, Mia, Hey, Miya, 774 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: shout out to Mia. Yeah, hanging there, guys. I know 775 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: it's a very tough time for you, and I'm glad 776 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 1: we can help in some small way while you're making 777 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: these long car rides. And we'll look into any t 778 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, and thank you for reaching out to 779 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: us too. If you want to reach out to us, 780 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: you can find us on stuff you Should Know dot com. 781 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: All of our social links are on there and uh 782 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: you can also send us an email to stuff podcast 783 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: and how stuff Works dot com for more on this 784 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: and thousands of other topics. Is it how stuff works 785 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: dot com. H