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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Rixie

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Speaker 1: Rei Jr. And Alex to Monson on the Digital Soup

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Speaker 1: Buch Network material witness on an aggregated battery, I was

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Speaker 1: a hang gun and um, they believe this might be

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Speaker 1: in retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. This is episode thirty two, and this

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Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso from Street TV a K Street Gangs

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Speaker 1: dot Com. And I'm here with my co host James McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're over there daydreaming boat. Um,

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Speaker 1: And you can find me on all social media platforms

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Speaker 1: at alex Alonso one zero one. I'm on Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and Facebook. So last week we had Kado on the show, James,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to go through a few fact

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Speaker 1: checks from last week. UM. We had mentioned that song

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Speaker 1: actually off of Snoop Dogg's debut album, Um Doggy Style,

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Speaker 1: right after he was featured on the chronic in two.

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Speaker 1: Um next fact check was the name of the FBI agent.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was your Kato that brought. Oh.

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Speaker 1: You said last week that some of these FBI agents

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Speaker 1: talking about the mafia exactly. Robert Joseph Connolly convicted of racketeering,

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Speaker 1: He was an FBI agent in Boston and he had

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Speaker 1: a relationship with James Whitey Bulger. This is what I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling these guys that that we don't now outside

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Speaker 1: knew if you say something small statement becomes a big

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Speaker 1: Gets so much time that Robert Connley got that FBI ag,

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Speaker 1: he got life he got life. He got life because

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Speaker 1: he was also implicated in homicides. They were mad at

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Speaker 1: him because he turned like that, and he helped Whitey

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Speaker 1: Bulger knock off a few folks. Now Whitey Bulgers the

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Speaker 1: Kato said something about, you know, not too many cops

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Oh? Man, we're good, We're good. Man.

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Speaker 1: Just sitting there, you know, doing the show, uh waiting

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Speaker 1: on your call. Okay, okay, what up? Gave the chronical?

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Speaker 1: How y'all doing. We're good. We were pushing trying to

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Speaker 1: You need somebody to pick the other side of your brains.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how you feeling free? Are you talking about? No? Just?

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Speaker 1: during that time, when that year or two, I used

423
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: to go to the liquor stof right there, and I

424
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: used to see all the food cown dudes that you know,

425
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: guys in my age, maybe a little older, and it

426
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: wasn't on, no game bang, and said it was just

427
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: all the sun, man, what's going on? Okay? But they

428
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: hit me and where you staying? Where your stall over here?

429
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: It's okay? Right on. So then we moved the Tree

430
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Top neighborhood, which was about a mile or two up

431
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: the road right there on willow Brook and Rose Clans.

432
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: But my house sat right on Covert. As a younger

433
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: man running the streets of Company, California, Junior found himself

434
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: a man with the streets and everything. He thought of

435
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: me off. So when I moved there, that's when all

436
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: hell broke loose. And when I mean by that, that's

437
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: when I really got to getting loose and started feeling

438
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: I want to be you know, I want to be

439
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: in the streets and you know, but I wouldn't game

440
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: ban And then I knew him when I wasn't from

441
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: the hood. That was soon changed because he not only

442
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: lived in the neighborhood, but Junior frequently socialized with members

443
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: of the tree Top by Route and the one laziness

444
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: from each your boys could rocks. He would soon go

445
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: from an affiliate to a full flags camester, not just

446
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: living in the hood cleanion as well. So I started

447
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: hanging around, hanging around, you know, then knowing them, and

448
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: they knew already knew I stayed in the house so

449
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: they wouldn't trip it. So one night we had my

450
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: homeboy House Chaos. And this is where I get put on.

451
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: We have my homeboy house Chaos, Rest in Peace. We're

452
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: in his garage, so it's him, the homely Joe Boy

453
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace and the homeboy little Devil, and uh,

454
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: we sitting there hanging out. You know, dude, teenagers do

455
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: you know talking to shift, you know, listening to music,

456
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: and Joe Boy and Little Devil they're looking at each

457
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: other and then they're talking to me. I ain't think

458
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 1: none of it. We're just children because I know him.

459
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: So they started getting me with the court says, hey, man,

460
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: you know you've been hanging with us for a wow. Man,

461
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: you've been you know, you're living up with them, You've

462
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: been hanging around. And I was like, yeah, it's cool, man,

463
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: I ain't got no phone with us. So then he

464
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: said what they say, you know, when you're gonna school

465
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: and me walking, nobody to be hitting me or where

466
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: you're from on No, not really. I'm naive. I have

467
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: no idea what's about to come. So the homeboyd Little

468
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: Devil take off of me and the other dude because

469
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: my other homeboys, yo, boy, he get in. They're not

470
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: dogging me out, but they you know, they're giving it

471
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm I'm fighting back. Boom, boom, We're

472
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: going We're going. This lasted for about about breathe six

473
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: by six minutes boom, but it feels like a lifetime

474
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not knowing what's going on? So after that,

475
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: everybody laughing. So that let me think, oh, this ship

476
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: was playing. They just needed the time to get me,

477
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, in the spot. So now I'm from the neighborhood.

478
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. From now, I'm from the neighborhood,

479
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: and I'm paro. After being quarter done, Junior was officially

480
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: on the seat, but he didn't exactly become a rider

481
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: for the hood overnight, you know what I'm saying. But

482
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going full flash like yeah and nig I'm

483
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna go killing somebody now. Was none of that. I

484
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: was just okay, I'm parou now, So okay if it

485
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: felt the thing, because I'm still hanging out the ship

486
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I've been doing. I was basically doing the same ship

487
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: I've been done before I got put on, you know

488
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The funny Games was soon ceased. This

489
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: was the early nineties and you're the conclusion of the

490
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: crack era. The very few legal opportunities and decided to

491
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: want more. Junior was soon into the Shark and Festive

492
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: Water to the rock Cocaine tree man. Let me tell

493
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: you this ship happened so fucking fast, man, It seemed

494
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: like once that happened, that's when it was written that

495
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: everything starts happening. So I'm trying to get money, you know,

496
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: out here seeing what they do, and I had no car,

497
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: no transportation at all. The young nigga asking mom because

498
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: he telling up over here, could you take me to

499
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: my girlfriendous? And I'm going on all these different Brols neighborhood.

500
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, and you know, I have no transportation.

501
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: So I go look for a job because Mom is

502
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: on my head on. I went to look for a job.

503
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I built out of application and nothing came up it.

504
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: So I was like, fuck. So my homeboy, Joe Boy,

505
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: the one who put me on, he had his little

506
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: he was selling his little work, so he threw me

507
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: a little something. I guess it was calms boys. And

508
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: now he's gonna ahead and see what you can do

509
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: with it, because I'm like, okay, cool. So now I'm

510
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: in the drug business selling rocks. But I'm making enough

511
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: money just to keep my page room, get something from

512
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: the Hamburger San, you know, just to go to farm

513
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: me boy t shirt here and there or something like that.

514
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: Not exactly what you would call falling. It was time

515
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: for exu you to elevate his hustle. One of his

516
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: big homies put him up with the water hustle. For

517
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: those mattering to know, water is slang for PCP. You see,

518
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: Junior live in the part of town known the Sherm Manley,

519
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: so he had easy access to those looking to get wet. Now,

520
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: my other old homeboy he coming through, he wrote, but

521
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: he's not selling rock in the water game. So he

522
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: put me onto that and I was like, oh, ship okay,

523
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, how did this work? Because I had no

524
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: idea how that worked. I've seen it done, but I

525
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: just don't know what the business book. And he laced me.

526
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: He was like, what's good for you? You lived right

527
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: in the spot, so you don't get all attractive. Another

528
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: thing that helped me was it was a liquor store

529
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: right across the street. I mean right there was called

530
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: these Liquor. Anybody from me at that area they know

531
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Right across seat from the Douglass department.

532
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: They sold cigarettes singles for a quarter and oh my god,

533
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: that was it. They come get their figurettes for a quarter.

534
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: Come see me, man. It was on in Popa. So

535
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: now I got a little money going, you know what

536
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Still no car yet, and I got a

537
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: little money going, so that we're rolling doing that, doing that.

538
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm hitting them off. I'm making you know,

539
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: some decent better than what I was doing with the rocks.

540
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Junior suffered from what's called the drug dealer's curse. It's

541
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: never enough money. Even though he was making thousands of

542
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: dollars selling water, It's still wasn't enough. It's never enough.

543
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: But the next hustle ex Junior with a barking plump

544
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: would change his life forever. Another homeboy from Fruit Count,

545
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: other old dude, he come by. He you know that

546
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: little player dude boots, cowboy boots, you know, little trinketsone

547
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: and ship catalec. I don't know what the first man

548
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: I used, you know, he said, I'm hitting you know,

549
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm hitting licks. I'm okay, can't be robbing no liquor

550
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: store because it ain't the settings and it ain't no

551
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: grocery store. So I'm thinking drewelry store. He's like, no, man,

552
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: I'll be running up in those things. You know what

553
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, ship man, So you know, let me

554
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: know what's going on. He said, I'm gonna ho at

555
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: you about that. For a couple of weeks passed by,

556
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, he comes through the hopping the car. So

557
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: we've been a few on us. Now. He put me

558
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: up one bank rod. He said, I got a lick

559
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: coming up next week. You want to roll. I'm like, hey, yeah,

560
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: nig let's do it. So the David Porter lick, he

561
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: comes to the neighborhood. We're going over all the bootprints

562
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: on what we're gonna do. He lacing me ship. They're

563
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna get the money, ESSENTI sure all he just going there,

564
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, do this. I got to I got to

565
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: heat us and got everything. Okay. So the next day

566
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: he comes scooped me up and we go to his spot.

567
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: That's where everybody hanging out. That's the start of the

568
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: little get down. So he got the g ride, so

569
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: we give me the little woo walking. This is what

570
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna do going there at this time. It's in

571
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: the morning, it's about eight o'clock, so we want to

572
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: be in there about nine fifteen n twenties somewhere, because

573
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: that's somethings so cool. So we had an older dude

574
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: who was a driver like you know grandfather, but he

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: was still kind of had a little swag to him

576
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: back then. He was always our driving. It was like,

577
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: so we go to the thing, we roll up in there, boom,

578
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: let me out. We got the bucket of water in

579
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: the car. I have no idea was this before until

580
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: he telled me before we go. We sit now because

581
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: any tracking devices or any ink bag to anything. Soon

582
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: as you get in the car, you dump the money

583
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: in this bag and don't take that out until we

584
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: get to what we're going. Cool, we're going there. Put

585
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: the lick down. I'll go in there. Everybody get down, robbery,

586
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: lay down, don't touch nothing, don't say many So I

587
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: hop over the desk. That's before they put all that

588
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: bull shit over. You can't get back there. So I'm

589
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: telling the lady, put the money in the bag. She

590
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: getting all the money together, dropping ship. She nervous and

591
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: crying and ship and you know what, you're putting all

592
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: the money in the bag. Now, my even, this is

593
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: my first kid down. Never dragged nobody, never robbed nobody.

594
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I went straight to the pro. So I'm doing good.

595
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Get the bag of money, we roll out, get in

596
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: the car, the money in the bag, lay down the

597
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: order dude driving. So we're thriving about about ten minutes.

598
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: I say, what we're looking like, it's all we're good man.

599
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: I hear the signs, but I ain't on nothing, ain't

600
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: nowhere in there is So now I can fill the car.

601
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: Getting on the freeway, you say, just lay down. We're cool.

602
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: We're cool. So we roll a were rolling, and the

603
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: further we rolled, the less I hear the fucking sirens,

604
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: but I can't see nothing because he's telling me to

605
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: stay down. So I'm like we because he's, oh, yeah,

606
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: we're cool man. We almost to the neighborhood. So we

607
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: get to the neighborhood, we get out. You know, Nickers

608
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: is happy, you know we got away. He was all

609
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: you we did. We don't be all you know. We

610
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: calmed down. So we go in there and cut up

611
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: the money. So we chake the money out the water bag,

612
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: out the water buckets, put it in a little dryer.

613
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Because he's done this before. I don't know what they're doing.

614
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: So he put in the dry and in the drive

615
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: and ironered out. We're cutting up the money. We talked.

616
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: He was like damn, yeah, yeah, now this is my

617
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: first one, and I remember it like it was yesterday.

618
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: So I got my cut. It was about thirty five

619
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: hundred thirty five four racks something like that. Now, but

620
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: before he dis first the money, he's like, all everybody

621
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: to sit on it. Don't do ship, don't buy nothing,

622
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: don't kill nobody nothing, don't do nothing. At this time,

623
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the money. But I still got my

624
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: little water thing going. I'm still doing that. But I'm

625
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: anxious because I'm kicking it. I know I got the

626
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: stats going, so I don't see nobody For about a week.

627
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: Junior had found whether in this young ass looked to

628
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: be a much better hustle. He had successfully pulled off

629
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: his first bank robbery. He had made more money in

630
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes than he would have made working a whole

631
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: week in sher Mallen. He was eager to hit more licks.

632
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: So I finally see the onboard who orchestrated the ship,

633
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: and he laughed. He's smiling, you know, he got a smoke.

634
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: How are you doing, man, what's going on? How you living?

635
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good man. It's like cool, yeah, man,

636
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: you yeah, we're good. We're good. So we I go

637
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: line off. You know line, I'm young, you known go

638
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: to swap me. Now I buy the home boy car.

639
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and you know, and then

640
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: I say him again. He's like, man, you know you're

641
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: down to do another. So this is how now I'm

642
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: a professional because I'm doing more and more and more,

643
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: and the states getting hire, the money is getting more

644
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: and all that ship. Junior and his crew were going

645
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: and hit several more successful bank licks, but in the

646
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: game nothing lass where greed is the hustless curse, and

647
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Junior would take a loss trying to flip this bank

648
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: robbery proceeds, and as we know, Bosters don't make losses,

649
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: so he had to try to get his back and

650
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: what would be his final lick. All the signs to

651
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: aport the robbery were there, but they didn't pay attention.

652
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: All right, So I did a bottle three more after that,

653
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: which was okay. It was okay, and I did three

654
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: more after that. But I'm still I'm balling now. Man,

655
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm seventeen eighteen. I'm balling back in the nineties. Now.

656
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: This is this is like ninety three, ninety four, somewhere

657
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: ninety somewhere in there, so I'm bought all cast. So

658
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: now I have this uh family friend who knew me

659
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: since I was a kid. He from nine oh, but

660
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: my girl relative been with his brother since eighty four

661
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: eighty five, so he's seen us grow up and everything.

662
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: But he was well, he rested in peace. Now. So

663
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: he was a big de boy from nine oh, big

664
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: de boy. So now during that time, I'm like, man,

665
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I need to come see for whatever. He's like, okay,

666
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: what's she got? So I take the nigga twenty rack

667
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: for for for uh, you know, from work. I know

668
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: little rocks, So I take the twenty racks for a bird.

669
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: This nigga stiff. So now I said, okay, well he bullshit.

670
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: He answered his fun you know, he ain't hit me up.

671
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so now even the weight of my pockets,

672
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I just say fucking thinking of okay, I hit the homeboy. Man,

673
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: we need to go do another one. He was like, okay, cool.

674
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: So this time all the red listening careful, all the

675
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: red flags was there. Not to fucking go. So I

676
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: go take I go take us du from nine oh,

677
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him to twenty rats. I counted out

678
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: poop from poom poom pool. So I'm gonna take him

679
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: to twenty rats. I don't hear nothing from him, nothing

680
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: for him. So in the process I get with the

681
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: homeboy from Fruittown bands. Okay, we're gonna do another one.

682
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: This was in Lone Beach. I never forget. This was

683
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: in Lone Beach. So the girl I was dealing with

684
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: at the time the night before, I said, okay, I'm

685
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: already knowing what I'm going to do. We're gonna get

686
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: there about nine thirty. Do the things. So about can

687
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I'll be home. I was gonna pick her up at eleven.

688
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna go kick it, you know all that that

689
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: ship we meet up over the plans. Hit the fucking

690
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: car number one, a red flag. The motherfucking old man.

691
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: The driver was sucking late with the car. So we

692
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: meet up at the same time. It's like a thirty

693
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: We post being the motherfucking bank at nine. The Niger

694
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: didn't show up till nine, so we're like, okay, who

695
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: So now we get the car. He turned the car.

696
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: We're going there and you know, do our little mapping

697
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: and playing and we get in the car. We got

698
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: the bucket of water. We got this the heat of everything.

699
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: Motherfucker cut it won't start, so we're like, fuck man,

700
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: didn't even pay attention. That's red flag number two. Finally

701
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: we get the motherfucker to start. Boom, get on the freeway.

702
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: We're going a long beach to do our things. Motherfucker's

703
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: getting flat tired. That's red flag number three. So we're

704
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: on the freeway by this time, this motherfucking nine thirties.

705
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: We post a BN out of the bank already, were

706
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: on our way to the motherfucker, but we're on the

707
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: freeway stuck. Red flag number four. We're sitting there fucking

708
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: with the tire ship. Now, we got bucket of water

709
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: in the back seat and we got the heaters in

710
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: the back seat. The motherfucking highway patrol pull up behind

711
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: us and he says, oh you guys, all right, you

712
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: need to help me first, didn't cut of my mind?

713
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, somebody on their way right now. We're just

714
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, harry up and get this going

715
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: so it won't be too much trouble when they're getting there. Nigga,

716
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: my heart is beating like a motherfucker. I'm like, oh Dan,

717
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: and then my page are going off from the girl

718
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I was denal with because remember I'm supposed to go

719
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: pick her up at eleven, so we should go hang

720
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: out and kick it. By this time, it's sucking ten

721
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: o'clock and we we ain't nowhere near the fucking bank,

722
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: so we pressed the issue. We go do our things.

723
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: The motherfuckings didn't even get no money because the police

724
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: was already there. I guess they must have seen us

725
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: roll up when we first hit the parking lot, so

726
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: we go inside. We're here, the police fucking aboard mentioned

727
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: I roll out hopping the car. That's sucking high speed chase.

728
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: It's all bad, man, And then we were running from

729
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: Long Beach to the sucking ghetto birders on. This Long

730
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Beach is not that far from Conference, so we get

731
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: to Compton right there on fucking rolls crans in Mayo.

732
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: That's when the fucking ship just deceased to stop at

733
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: the red light. I hop out the car. But when

734
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I hopped out the car, that motherfucking drivers smashed on

735
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: the gas and fucking smash my arm between the fucking

736
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: door and the sucking uh he flosed, throwing my arm,

737
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: So I gotta broken arms. I'm tumbling in the street.

738
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I hear everything is going on so fast, and I

739
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: hear the motherfucking lady police. He's been hit. He's been hit.

740
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, So they picked me up. They got

741
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: the guns on me, but they know him sucked up,

742
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: so they set me on the curves and this is

743
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: when I realized, okay, it's over. So we the first

744
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: place I go to but to the hospital. They come

745
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: into the bed. They send me in a wheelchair and

746
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: they coming into that. Then they comes into the bed.

747
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: They wrap up my arm and this is when all

748
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: the motherfucking up the police with the guns in the badge,

749
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't see them no more. It's motherfucker's his suits.

750
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, it's it's it's all bad here. Man. Man,

751
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: that was an incredible story. And guess what, y'all we

752
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: got Junior in the studio. What's happening? What's happening? Hey man?

753
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming down down and uh and sharing your

754
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: story with us. Oh yeah, thanks for having me. Man. Man,

755
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: that was crazy. But should I want to start off

756
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: right with asking and you said you guys pulled into

757
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: the bank, but you never went into the bank to

758
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: rob the bank. Well, when we when we pulled in,

759
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: we got out with the mask on. They must have

760
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: seen us coming and they must have hit the button.

761
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: And then once we got in there and we didn't

762
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: even I didn't even get to lay anybody down because

763
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: we're here the sirens. So he was like, fuck it. Okay,

764
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: so you guys walked into the bank but didn't do nothing. No, no, no.

765
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: Once we got in, we heard the sirens and and

766
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: and everybody in the parking lot. You can see what's

767
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: going on because now it's late, so everybody who's supposed

768
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: to be at the bank is there. The parking a

769
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: lot crowded, and it's just it's just the chaos. Is

770
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: that considered an actual robbery? Yeah? Was it considered an

771
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: attempted arm robbery because you guys never really drew down

772
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: on anybody. No, but they got one gun. Remember when

773
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: they pulled us over, I had my arm broke, so

774
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: I went to the hospital. I didn't find out. These

775
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: niggas got called to it later. So they had one gun,

776
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: and then that's what they say, we was attempted to

777
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: use in the fucking robbery. What are you think of that, James?

778
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: That's that's I mean, just listening to that, it's crazy. Um,

779
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: just the way you're coming up. You know what I'm

780
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: saying you is the dope game and it just feed you.

781
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that ain't and ain't buying

782
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: you a car, It ain't dressing you the way you

783
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: want to be dressed. You can't care you girl, So

784
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: you step your game up. So bank robbing was and

785
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: back in that days, he wouldn't only want robbing banks.

786
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: Everybody was trying to get into that. The end of

787
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: the day, it was just everybody went to prison. So

788
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: just being on that journey, I mean, just the last day,

789
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: at what point did you think, man, then me just

790
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: just ain't working, Let's go home. I wasn't thinking that,

791
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: but I knew, like damn, it's all when you in

792
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: that type of lifestyle robbing, timing is everything. Whether you're

793
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: going to hits, you know, do a home invasion or whatever.

794
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: This timing is everything. And we was all off timing.

795
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: But you know, me being young and thinking about the

796
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: niggerhold me my money, and I'm trying to even out

797
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: of my pockets. I said, I'm pushing, I'm already sucking here.

798
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: Let me just go. But it wouldn't have been no

799
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: problem saying, you know what, man would do this ship tomorrow,

800
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: but nobody stepped up to say it. We just forced

801
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: the issue, and forcing the issue got me fucking all

802
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: my twenties in jail. Wow. So that I hear that right,

803
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: that the guy took twenty racks from you and a

804
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: deal that never happened. Deal never happened, And and during

805
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: my court case doing going through prison, I still I

806
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: ain't never heard from him since up to well, he

807
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: he passed away now, but before he passed never like

808
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: I got half, if I got some, I got a

809
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: little bit, none of that. So were you asking about

810
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: around like where's this dude that he owes me twenty racks?

811
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: Were you having people on them? We'll see. That's a

812
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: good question because come to find out, he was already

813
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: under the microscope from the fest, so he was already

814
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: on the run. So I think that was his little

815
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: getaway money, which was my money. So that was his

816
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: intention the entire time, the entire time. But I wouldn't.

817
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about all this until you know, you

818
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: get to sit down and you get like fun and

819
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: then man, my relative, we're talking about it and he

820
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: put it on my mind like he was already hot.

821
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but that was his little run money,

822
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: my twenty rats because when I get to the room,

823
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: he got some work there. But that wasn't for me.

824
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: And now that I think about it, that could have

825
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: been a set up there anyway. I could have went

826
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: to sail behind that. Being in the hotel, drugs on

827
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: the bed, that's just a wreck waiting to happen. So

828
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: were you buy yourself when you tried to buy all

829
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: this work, because that's yeah, yeah, yea, y'all. And you

830
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: was kind of new in the drug game at that time.

831
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Well I wasn't. I was new to that level. That level,

832
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: I was new, but as far as you know rock pushing,

833
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I would new to that. But yeah, yeah, I was

834
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: new to that. And then I'm looking up to him

835
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: because I know he's the he's up there. You know,

836
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: everybody knew who he was. I'm like, okay, cool. I

837
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: was comfortable. So I just counted out and here you

838
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: go and never seen him again. But I was smart,

839
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: like they might ain't heard from this dude in a minute,

840
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: so he ain't asking my pace. Well Patriots back then

841
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: and asked my pace. So I said, you know what

842
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: he might he might have did you know he might

843
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: have did me? So let me go. Yeah, food man, listen,

844
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: but my mind is I should go robb another bank.

845
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: That's how I felt I should go rob another bank.

846
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Get that back like that. I was just that comfortable

847
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: go in, you know, get what I'm gonna get. And

848
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm already feeling myself because you know they pumped me

849
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: about you a natural man. I'm just like, okay, cool,

850
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm a professional and I'm just going to rob another bank.

851
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: But that day, uh, it was all man. That day, man,

852
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: it was that day was bad man, bad. Now you

853
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: end up in see the block neighborhood after moving around

854
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times and the sherm Allley that was

855
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: mentioned in the story, Uh take us back to that

856
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: where exactly what sherm Allley and and you know, trying

857
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: to draw the picture for us, what did it look

858
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: like there? Uh, Sheron Mallley was back then? It was

859
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: it was popping back there, you know, tree Top pie Rouge.

860
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: You know you got the homies back there. You know

861
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: you got crack being sold back there. Fruit I'm living. Yeah,

862
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: then I moved the Tree Top neighborhood, you know, about

863
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: a mile up to you know. So once I moved

864
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: to uh Tree Top neighborhood, my address is one thousand

865
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: eight North Coover Avenue, right on Rose Crans and Ruler Brooks.

866
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: So and that's when Rose Crans was a motherfucker too.

867
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: They didn't have no you know, dividers in the street.

868
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: You get caught by the train tracks and ain't suposed

869
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: to be over there. It's you know, good night, Irene.

870
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: But I lived over there, and that's where it was,

871
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: some back apartments over there, and my homeboy from Fruittown,

872
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: snake Man, used to be back there, so we all

873
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: used to hang out back there. So it was nothing

874
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: for me to just you know, be back there selling sherm.

875
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: And then, like I was telling James earlier, at night,

876
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: I went to the store and bought this a little nightlight,

877
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: not enough to light up the room. But if you

878
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: come by late at night and you see that little

879
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: light on, that means shop is open. So you just

880
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna hook you up

881
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: in the in the liquor store. Deed's Liquor was right

882
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: across the street. And that's when they were selling cigarettes

883
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: for a quarter, single cigarettes. So they go get their

884
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: single cigarettes, come see me and uh getting a little

885
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: dip and then you know, going about their business. Man.

886
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: That's always been a hustle that has lasted forever. I

887
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: think the seventies people were selling sherm. It lasted through

888
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: the eighties and then the nineties and to this day.

889
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: And see that's why I don't I'm not mentioned no

890
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: names because it's probably people still you know, doing that.

891
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: Everybody's still doing. It's still a black because Blacks of

892
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: lost control of like cocaine, they lost control of all

893
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: some of the drugs. But um water is still something

894
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: that ain't going nowhere. You know how to make it.

895
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna always have money, Yeah that is. As long

896
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: as they make cigarettes, you're gonna be all right too.

897
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: They'll find some other way to dip it. But just

898
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: just growing up moving over there, knowing that Compton was

899
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: was it was wide when you moved over there in

900
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: that time, oh yeah, man, and then getting the hommies

901
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: hanging out with certain people and then down they setting

902
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: you up to jump you in coming to the hood.

903
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: And back then in the day someone who has used

904
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: to do the jump in thing. Now the homeboys get

905
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: your say imposed to you feedl to be from the hood.

906
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: We need to jump you in, Doug, come on, let's

907
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: do this, you know, get you ready, right, they've basically sneaking,

908
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: and because see the way I look at it now,

909
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, the MC world. I mean,

910
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: you gotta hang around and see if we want you here.

911
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: You know we ain't. We ain't starving for numbers. Yeah,

912
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: possibly you hang around. So since I lived in the neighborhood,

913
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: they need my sister and my mom's that I lived

914
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: right in the purple house on the corner. So they're like,

915
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: we go the nigger, so we might as well. And

916
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: then what's funny about that story real quick is the

917
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: fruit towns they kind of felt some type of way

918
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: because I lived over there first, remember, and then now

919
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: from tree tops like, damn nigg you should have been

920
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: from over here. But whatever, it's all you know. Now,

921
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: the way you got put on is kind of unusual

922
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: because usually you get put on, you know you're about

923
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: to get put on. It's a day at the time.

924
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: The spot, they're kind of just blindsided. You have to

925
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: put on, Huh, how do you feel where you? Did

926
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: you know it was coming or just completely surprised you. No,

927
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: it surprised me because before, like I said, it wasn't

928
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: nothing different. Once I I put on, I'm doing the

929
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: same ship I've been doing. I'm still hanging out. I

930
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: was hanging out with them before they come to the house.

931
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Let me use your phone.

932
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: We hang out. But at that time, it's like ship.

933
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: You know, people feel you over here. If crips come through,

934
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna ask. So he ain't from the neighborhood,

935
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: so you just move out the way you in the

936
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: group to in the group, so you know. And that's

937
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: where I realized. Once you start claiming something or I'm

938
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: from over here, you sign your name on the dotted

939
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: line for anything that comes with that. You know, so

940
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: you gotta ask questions. Don't just be naivea oskay, why

941
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: we don't get along with those dudes? You know what?

942
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: What's the beef? So you would know you're supposed to

943
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: know your history about your own neighborhood. Okay, you just

944
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: don't go with the flow because then you get mixed

945
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: up in some ship and you supposed to be on

946
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: a level where you know everything. So you talked to

947
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: the O G. So why are we donna get along

948
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: with them? Okay? All right? And it's always nine times

949
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: out of tansome dumb shit either dice game or broad

950
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: pillow talking or whatever, you know, some dumb ship. But

951
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: at that time, and James will tell you it, it

952
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: was it felt good in the power room. Man. You

953
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: can go ros clients go to in net room. Yeahs Park,

954
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: they're throwing something. We mob everybody you know saying c cars,

955
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: you're throwing it up. It just felt good. But now,

956
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: as he told me, and I know, it ain't like that,

957
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: and that's kind of left left a bitter feeling for

958
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: me because I'm under the old law, you know, no

959
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: disrespect to anybody out there. But when I chose to

960
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: be at Paru, I stick to the G code, and

961
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: that's why I got that ship right here on my neck.

962
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: I stick to the G code. And for me, the

963
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: G code is if you owe a nigga money, pam

964
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, if you get into it, squash them, you know,

965
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: because a lot of niggas still be alive. And they were, Hey, James,

966
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I was fucked up, man, Sorry

967
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: about that, and it's you know, it's all good, but

968
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: you gotta be sincere. But you know it's pride. Man.

969
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: You don't want you know, you don't. You don't. You

970
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: don't want to feel like a bit that you apologize.

971
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: But now I lived by prison rules and what I

972
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: mean by that I respect everything. If I make eye

973
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: contact with you, I'm gonna say something. You got a

974
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: better perspective going to prison and seeing different things opposed

975
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: to just been in the hood. You actually, you grow

976
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: in prison, Oh ship, I had to grow up overnight

977
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: because when you check in all that feelings for your

978
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: girl and oh uh this my car, you leave that. Yeah,

979
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: your story is different because you never went to Lost

980
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Madrinas and none of that. You went from the streets

981
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: straight to to federal prison. No playoffs, no no pre season,

982
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: no play to federal prison. How did you feel just

983
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: just never going to jail and then just just you

984
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: gotta grow up today? I'm well, you know you always

985
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: have people who I'll tell you, hey, y, I'm slow down, man,

986
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: But adrenaline. You know you're waking up every day. What

987
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna by today because you got and everything was cash.

988
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: See now we are at the level where, oh, just

989
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: use your car or just do it online. But I'm

990
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: from it every and your pockets ain't fat. You know

991
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: what You're I'm talking about getting locked up and going straight.

992
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: You're not going to a county jail and get process.

993
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: But don't you go to m DC first. I went

994
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: to Yep. I went to m d C. I spent

995
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: two years and yeah, yeah, and it was different there

996
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: because I didn't know anybody that's been there before. So

997
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm already preparing myself. You know, I got gang tattoos,

998
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: so I got long hair, so I already know. Okay,

999
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: And when they process you, when you naked, they take

1000
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: pictures of your tattoos and put you in the book

1001
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: and shift. So don't as soon as I get up there, okay,

1002
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, but then I'm looking like, wait a minute,

1003
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: look like no fucking jail, you know. I'm sorry, it's

1004
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: real clean clean. Yeah, you know. I was like seven south.

1005
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: So they're shooting basketball and I'm like, wait a minute, okay,

1006
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: And then you got the little guard right sitting at

1007
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: the table just doing his little book note like okay.

1008
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: So once I get settled in there. I had a

1009
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: broken arm, mind you. So once I get settled there,

1010
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: I ran into a couple of homies from Blackstone. I

1011
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: didn't know him, but I met him in there. You know,

1012
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: they brief you on who's who and whatever. So they

1013
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: you know, they hit me with some commissary and help

1014
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: me get my little ship to my room and stuff.

1015
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: And then you start realizing. Okay, so they let you know.

1016
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: It's pretty you know, mellow here. The black scot their

1017
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: own TV. White's got their own TV messing out there

1018
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: on TV. So and after the two years of being there,

1019
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: so finally when I get my time, now I'm going

1020
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: to the yard. But m DC was like a transfer

1021
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: station people who coming back fighting their case. So they'll

1022
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: let you know. Yeah, when you get to the yard,

1023
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: man your homebo okay, and just do this. So when

1024
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: I went to Phoenix, Arizona, f CI Phoenix totally different.

1025
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: That was a medium. But all the niggas from California

1026
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: is in Arizona. Cripts, bloods. You know. It's you know,

1027
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: it's only when you get you know, so you you

1028
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: let it be known. They already know you know where

1029
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: you're from. Compton. Okay, your folks over there, you know

1030
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So then you I stayed there for

1031
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: about a year, wait till my points go down. Then

1032
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: I went to a medium. Now, Uh f CI Phoenix

1033
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: is you? You said, so you gotta get locked in,

1034
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: and you know if you don't, you know, if you

1035
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: ain't on your ship and careful, you can get fund

1036
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: off in there. Know what I'm saying. You can. It's

1037
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: totally different from from doing state time, because state time

1038
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: from from this cell to the bus to getting off

1039
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: the bus to wherever they're sending you, it can pop

1040
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: off at any time. Uh, you're doing fair time pretty

1041
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: much broke you in before a lot of a lot

1042
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: of homies go to go to prison and get broke,

1043
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: be broken before they get there. Because if you can't,

1044
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: somebody county jail because that you had cats coming out

1045
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: there with wopped heads. They weren't ready for that type

1046
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: of ship. It will either make your breaking. Yeah. So

1047
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: it's a blessing that you didn't have to go from

1048
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: state prison, not saying you wouldn't have made it, because

1049
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the home is going there and just

1050
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: straight with the business. And we could tell right, I

1051
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: mean looking at you and knowing you you're with the business,

1052
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: so exactly exactly if I come in there claiming something

1053
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: I got you, yeah, I don't, you know. And plus

1054
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm not from somewhere I got gang tattoos.

1055
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, well, hey man, that's that's what

1056
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: it is my home for now. You know. That's but

1057
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: for me, whenever I'm in some place or meet somebody,

1058
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: I set my statement right there. You know, Hey, this

1059
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: is who I am, so it won't be no surprises

1060
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: at the end. I'm gonna give you the truth and

1061
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: ants is where I'm from. No disrespect. I'm junior tree

1062
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: to Polkay cool, all right. I don't want to get

1063
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: in there like I run the place, but just let

1064
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: me know. You do your ship. You know they there.

1065
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: You know. It's all about respect first and forth. And

1066
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: that's why I say I lived by prison rules. I

1067
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: respect everything. If I bump into you, I'm gonna say,

1068
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: excuse me. So as you're at home right now, still

1069
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: making uh spreads and ship. You know what, man, when

1070
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: I got home, I did it and they were like,

1071
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? Then my kids love it.

1072
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm making spread. Everybody got their crackers. I still put

1073
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: the blastic on the table, put it all down, and

1074
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: they love it. But you know what, man, I'm gonna

1075
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: tell you something. Being in prison, once you realized, you know,

1076
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: I have to wake up because everybody thinks I'm going home.

1077
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm about to go home. But once you realize should

1078
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: I ain't going home until such and such, then you

1079
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: learn how to survive. You live in that little space

1080
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: and you don't need money. You got that fucking little locker.

1081
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Everything you want when it's in there, you know. And

1082
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: and you just got to toller trees your food. You

1083
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: just know how to do. You know, you're on your clothes.

1084
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: You know how to do stuff. So when you come home,

1085
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: you bring that with you. I was up early in

1086
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: the morning clean that. What the fun is you doing?

1087
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: That's I was on my time like that. But I still,

1088
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: like I said, keep some of that with me because

1089
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I know it's about respect. They might not like you,

1090
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: but they know I respected it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1091
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: And I grew up overnight and there because I was nineteen.

1092
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: So my birthday is November five. I just had it yesterday,

1093
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: So my birthday was November five, So when I turned

1094
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: nineteen comes December January, I was gone. I didn't even

1095
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: get to enjoy, like you know what I'm saying. None.

1096
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: But at the same time, me doing all those robberies

1097
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: and having money, I got the experience something just waking up,

1098
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with bitches just you going to the hood.

1099
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Pick Nex. I had not run so earlier. You asked me,

1100
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: do I regret it? And I said no, Man, I

1101
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: got up and did everything I wanted to do while

1102
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: I change anything. Yeah, as soon as the motherfucking car

1103
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't start, like you know what, man, we're gonna do

1104
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: this ship tomorrow. But who knows something then would have

1105
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: went back. I might could have got caught up. Just say,

1106
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: if I would have went in the drug business and

1107
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: everything worked out that way, I could have been sitting

1108
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: in jail for forty years or something. So it kind

1109
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: of all worked out, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1110
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: I think it did work out for you. Now. You

1111
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: know what's funny, when you get there, you know what

1112
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: you did. So when they you know your trash skips

1113
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: everything they got against you, and you think I do

1114
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: none of that ship they saying. But I had to

1115
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: sit down in the red lives, like, damn man, they're

1116
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: saying I did this, And the old dude said, you

1117
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: know what, that's just some ship you got away with.

1118
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: Coming back, you're just paying for the ship you got

1119
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: away with. I was like, man, ain't that a bit

1120
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: so go ahead and start to interrupt you. But the

1121
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: story that we just heard it end it when you

1122
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: got arrested taking into custody. I want to hear about

1123
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: what it was like fighting the case, going back and

1124
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: forth between MDC and court, and what that process was like.

1125
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: On the federal level. Well, it helped because, like Jane said,

1126
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: the county jail is fucked up, but being at m

1127
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: d C you can deal with it. But you know

1128
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: when they wake you up three in the morning and

1129
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: go to court and then you're sitting that little nasty

1130
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: ass holding tank, they give you that bag lunch and

1131
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: you're nervous because it's always okay what I'm going for

1132
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: ninety You might get the court and they might say,

1133
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna be scheduled this for three

1134
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: months down the line, so now you're on the dry run.

1135
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: But um, you talked to your public I had a

1136
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: public defender of course, so they never offered me a deal.

1137
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: And when they presented okay, he never had a bill herry,

1138
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool, I can bill out.

1139
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: But the public defenders like this dude don't have a

1140
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: traffic ticket, he never been in jail, you know, all

1141
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: the good stuff. James is like denied flight risks. So

1142
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk is a flight risk? I

1143
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about this, So we whisked me. Was like,

1144
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: they think you're gonna, you know, since you a bank Robert,

1145
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: they think you have some money stashed away and you're

1146
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: gonna skip town and all that you're a threat to community.

1147
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, now I'm looking sorry because

1148
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: I got the fucking broken arm still in court, But

1149
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: going back and forth to court, I was ready to

1150
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: get it over. So finally I got my sentence and

1151
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you know, I'm gonna be going

1152
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: for a while. So it was it was a headache, man.

1153
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: But then on that bus ride all the way to Arizona,

1154
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: you really started processing stuff and like you know, and

1155
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: then one of the dudes I was on the bus,

1156
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: he was handcuffed to me and he was coming back

1157
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: from court he had been going for a long time.

1158
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: Nigga told me. When I first came in, my daughter

1159
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: was barely walking. Now she driving up to see me.

1160
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, I did from ninety six to

1161
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: two three, so about eight years something like that. And

1162
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: they don't give you no good time, good behavior or

1163
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: none of that. Whatever they gave you. And they give

1164
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: your sentence in months like something months. They give you

1165
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: to you in month, so you gotta calculate all that.

1166
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: Now was good about it? When you go, you get

1167
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: a confrontation sheet and that that tells your exact date

1168
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: to the door. Then you take some classes in there.

1169
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: But it only works if you have a drug plase case.

1170
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: You do adapt drug awareness program. That didn't work for

1171
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 1: me because I'm a bank robber, so they're like, nope,

1172
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: to get that, you gotta have a non offensive case.

1173
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: I think Reggie might have been able to take advantage

1174
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: of that that program, but I'm not sure if he

1175
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: did or not. But yeah, it takes some um some

1176
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: months or years off. I couldn't get it because I'm

1177
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: on a violent case, which is you know, and and

1178
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: it wouldn't necessarily sold the bank robbery. It was a

1179
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: fucking gun that really carried all the weight, you know

1180
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and and once they find out

1181
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: you got the gun, it's just staying even discussing. So yeah,

1182
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: been in federal prison is you know, you know people

1183
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: walking around and there with a lot of time, and

1184
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, young young cats man on my on my run,

1185
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five years. How are you gonna do

1186
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: twenty five years when I haven't even been on earth

1187
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: that long. They're doing it. Yeah, they're doing it. Not

1188
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: a problem, man. But you know you walk it off.

1189
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: You know, I get in there, I walked it off.

1190
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: It's like cool. So coming home, I mean, what what

1191
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: life has been since you've been home? I mean, as

1192
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: you're back into the to the hood. If we're doing

1193
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: the banging, well, you know I always go by the neighborhood.

1194
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: I might go incognit, but I still go through there

1195
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: because that's that's me. You know, you you are what

1196
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: you are, no matter what you find yourself to be

1197
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: a working man. Now you can say that, you can

1198
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: say that, yeah, I mean, I mean, we gotta we

1199
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: gotta feed up family some kind of way. And however

1200
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: you do it is is that's the way it got

1201
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: to be done. See now it's so many avenue it

1202
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: is to do something, because, like I said, when I

1203
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: was doing my thing, you either you know, in high school,

1204
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a gangster athlete or both, or you're

1205
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: just gonna be a square in r OTC. And I

1206
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't doing that ship now. When you

1207
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: first looked up with tree Top, it was popping because

1208
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't DJ Quick put his album out one. So

1209
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: you came around around that time. And it's crazy you

1210
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: mentioned that because at that time, uh, him and m

1211
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: C A had they little not well not their little thing,

1212
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: but they had their big thing going shout out to

1213
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: n C eight. Uh And and I was a fan

1214
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: of m C eight. You know what I'm saying. I

1215
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: bought you know, the tape, the cassette back then with

1216
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: concette wouldn't no CD yet, but it was it was popping.

1217
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: He had a second and none used to come through there.

1218
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: And Sharon Maalley, Yeah, you had a Donzelli, you know.

1219
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: And that's the first thing I've seen on the hole

1220
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: back in the day. But yeah, tree Top was popping

1221
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: back then, so you never thought maybe you should try

1222
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: to get into this music because there's a lot of

1223
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: dudes from calm Than that are making it right now

1224
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: and maybe selling this shem and robbing these banks is

1225
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: not a long term plan. Well, yes, and no, I

1226
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: tried to do that. When I tried, I was pretty

1227
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: you know all right, you know, every every nigga long

1228
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: hair was a rapper. Uh. But I was like, ship man,

1229
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm microwave. I need my ship right now, you know,

1230
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: right now. And then Compton was just so now mind you.

1231
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: When I got to Compton, I was embarrassed to be

1232
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: from Compton because when we go way out and he

1233
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: was like, well, right, chacters down, where are you from?

1234
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, but then I'm like, you know what,

1235
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, I started poking my chest and I'm from Compton,

1236
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, oh ship and you know. But I tried

1237
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: to but it wouldn't rolling fast enough. So I just decided,

1238
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm gonna get this money like this. Also,

1239
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: death Throwers in his early years, James was over there.

1240
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about that. So death Row Records

1241
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: was the hottest thing in America over the world back then. Now,

1242
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: they did some ship in three years that Motown dev

1243
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: Jam was doing twenty thirty years. So we all in

1244
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: the neighborhood heard of Shoog, but we never seen him.

1245
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: It's like big shoot, big ship. Should we heard of him,

1246
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: but we never seen him. So Death roll through this

1247
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: big fucking picnic at Loutis Park and every Piru and Compton,

1248
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, was there was probably there. Everybody

1249
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: was there. I mean if you roll down Rolls Crimes

1250
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: by Loutis Park, you just see a sea of red

1251
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: and Birthday and people from l A came. You know,

1252
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: it's performers. Of course snooping the dog Pound wouldn't there,

1253
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: of course not understandable. But DJ Quick perform taking a

1254
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: none of my homeboy Rick James, he was there, so

1255
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: it was that was a beautiful time. Man. Yep, I

1256
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: remember that we was all there. That was I want

1257
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: to say ninety four maybe James, thank you? It was

1258
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: it was big. Was that something James that Death Row

1259
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: did like every year or a couple of times a year,

1260
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: either that they we do anything that gonzalezork No, well,

1261
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: every time they did something it was it was either

1262
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: looters or in the swamped me and it was pretty

1263
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: much Thanksgiving type of ship that he was consistent with.

1264
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: But fartherest, because he built the state, had the stage,

1265
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: did at the park and all that, I think he

1266
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: only did that once. He only did that once. But

1267
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: fartherest thanks Giving, I think he did Christmas giving out

1268
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: toys one year. But Thanksgiving was consistent, the turkeys and

1269
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: all that. Ship but um, everything it was maybe once

1270
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: or toys. Now seeing that was that kind of like

1271
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: inspirational to say, wow, this is these are all this

1272
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: par rules. They got the biggest record company in America. Um,

1273
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: and then a rapper that's performing is from your neighborhood.

1274
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: It was, man, it was. It was and and and everybody,

1275
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: even if they say they didn't. Everybody wanted to be

1276
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: on death row. Everybody had the death row jackets. Everybody

1277
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: wanted to And I wanted to be on death row

1278
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: because my homeboy, Rick James was on death row so

1279
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: I knew him. And you know it was just like

1280
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: but like I said, I lose interest fast. Man. If

1281
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: this ain't working out, Okay, I'm about to do a

1282
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: spin move. I'm going over here. I mean, if you

1283
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: was there at the park that day, you you pretty

1284
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: much seen everybody and met and knew I'm talking about

1285
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: bring out legends. You had real cash up in there,

1286
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: and and just to see Rose Clan swamp like that,

1287
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: and to have a function where it was nothing but

1288
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: bluss and everybody was getting alone at that time, and

1289
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: it felt safe if if you try to get up

1290
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: the street, man, damn, this where I want to be from.

1291
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: And this is the this is the pre two pocket.

1292
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people think death Row didn't blow up

1293
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: until podcast yea, death Row was already established before Park

1294
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: ever signed to death Row just took thatth row to

1295
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: a different level, definitely, And but but Snoop then was

1296
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: there at the time, and Dre took death Row Scotty,

1297
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: he took that roke when when if it wasn't for Dre,

1298
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: it probably went It took longer, but Dred definitely got

1299
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: his get his problems for that. But when that happened,

1300
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: you know those guys didn't come function and Compton, you

1301
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: know they was doing the um Gin and juice video

1302
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: supposed to do it at my house at that time.

1303
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: So you got these cats pulling up in Ferrari's and

1304
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: ship in the hood and everybody coming outside and taking

1305
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: pictures and and all this ship and then she'll change

1306
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: the plans that you do something else. You know what

1307
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This probably was the first time I ever

1308
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: cleaned my fucking yard. The liquor and the ka for

1309
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: the video with just bottles and shipped all over the

1310
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: place from drinking all that week. And then we didn't

1311
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: do it. But a lot of people really wanted to

1312
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: be a part of that. A lot of people and

1313
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: and you had so many at that time, you had

1314
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: so many bloods knew that they was gonna get in

1315
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: because it was a blood dude that was That's a

1316
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: good point because for me, you know, pre Death Row,

1317
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: everybody on the West Coast was either a crip or

1318
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: background from Crypt. It wouldn't really know bloods wrapping. Then

1319
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: Quick came and when he came, he kind of snuck in.

1320
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: Not you know, it's like, oh, ship this nigger. He

1321
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: pushing the line. Quick was doing it, sugar, because and

1322
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: see he is the first nicket I was banging on wax.

1323
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: He was he was banging on CDs. Yeah, he when

1324
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: he said he was the first nicket banging on wax,

1325
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: he is not lying. Well, he's the first one to

1326
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: say a gang name on a record before anybody else,

1327
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily that he was banging because he kind

1328
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: of it was sort of like a subliminal was swinging

1329
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: from the tree tops right, and then he said, what's

1330
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: her name in my hood? Ha ha ha ha. Figure

1331
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: that ship out food, because if you look at the

1332
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: first tape right at the bottom, they got like T

1333
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: T P. But it is standing for like some some production.

1334
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: But I think he was kind of subtle with it.

1335
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: He wasn't really like nobody coming out with him that

1336
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: Nigga had it rough going of these different states and

1337
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: shows all crips, you know what I'm saying, Because now

1338
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: when you go to concerts, crips and bloods there they

1339
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: want to see each other's like a high school you

1340
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: and everybody's good. But back then Nikker's going to concerts

1341
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: to jack and beat up motherfucker. He had it rough.

1342
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it wasn't And then mctin came, you know,

1343
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: and then when he hooked up with Dove C it

1344
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh okay, so that kind of

1345
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: missed for me. That kind of missed everybody together. Then

1346
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: the Dog Pound in mctin and then what Sugar was

1347
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: doing that was unheard of. Yeah, that's like being in

1348
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: MC getting you know, this motorcycle club and this motorcycle

1349
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: club to function at the same place when nothing happened.

1350
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: Sure he had all christ and then he had the

1351
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: bloods protecting those guys. They well beings. So that was

1352
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: our job, is to make sure nobody bothered them, you

1353
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And not to take nothing away

1354
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: from some of those casts, because some of those cats

1355
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: was with the business. They was ready to fight and

1356
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: do whatever with the homies, you know what I'm saying.

1357
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: But if you look at it, I mean what other

1358
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: label was doing it like that and then was able

1359
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: to control both sides and have them work together, excuse me,

1360
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: and working together like that because at that time, come on, man,

1361
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: from what we're fighting. Because once you leave that row

1362
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: and walk out of that door, you gotta come to

1363
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: the hood and you gotta dress everything that's going on

1364
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: in the Yeah, so you gotta turn it on and

1365
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: turn it off every time you go and and and

1366
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: just just deal with what she was doing. Now, how

1367
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: was the man tally of that? You're thinking, Okay, it's

1368
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: a bigger picture because I know the older cats. Motherfucker's

1369
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: knew each other from the pen why and all this stuff,

1370
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: so you kind of had a not a relationship, but

1371
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: a respect, like, oh, y'all was locked up with respect.

1372
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: Was here we are with nothing, and here we are

1373
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: got this dude saying I'm gonna make y'all straight. Y'all

1374
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: don't rob nothing, don't do nothing to come with me.

1375
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: I wish I don't know. They don't. I wouldn't wish

1376
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: they don't know about but we're doing it. But then

1377
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: here you are, Okay, sugar game putting the bloods on it.

1378
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: It was cats coming to shoe that was was wrapping

1379
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: in my ass on. I'm teking my be dogs. And

1380
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: he wouldn't put he wouldn't promote like he would promote.

1381
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: Snoop him. That's that's bizarre, but it was smart because

1382
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: if I if I mixed my business with the homies

1383
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: and get him out there like that, them nigg is

1384
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: gonna get it. And if they blow up, they're gonna

1385
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: take the homies from me. I'm gonna they're gonna go

1386
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: and roll because they really with it like that. She'll

1387
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: never did the blood he worked with the crypts because

1388
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 1: y'all going to do whatever get your money and going

1389
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 1: to do whatever. I ain't worried about y'all going, But

1390
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: don't let two bucks say. Man, I want you you

1391
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: and you and I started my lebel y'all coming. Now

1392
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: we can shut some ship down. You know what I'm saying.

1393
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: My beat like the Homeboy rest in peace. B Brains.

1394
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: He was on the move until you know, you know

1395
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: he's untimely death. And then you know a lot of

1396
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: dudes out of the Denver Lanes was wrapping. It was

1397
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: a lot. You could have made a lot of money

1398
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: off the home And then he didn't push TB as

1399
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: hard as he should have pushed. After when TV came,

1400
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: he gave him to Mountry and Bunty was doing this thing,

1401
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: but then she wouldn't wouldn't do what he was supposed

1402
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: to do. They were always on soundtracks of movies but

1403
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: never put out an album. And and that murder was

1404
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: the case that was shoot not letting. Yeah, they was

1405
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: on something on two songs. I think every song they

1406
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: did was on a on a soundtrack for a moment.

1407
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: And the relatives and the relatives they never they never

1408
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: got out and was able to do their own thing.

1409
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: And that's because if these dudes make it, then they

1410
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: might go with them and see, it's funny you should

1411
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: bring that up because what people don't know and the

1412
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,879
Speaker 1: firs you run into a lot of people. Who was somebody?

1413
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: So I was in jail with sis uncle bone George Knight.

1414
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: That ain't that George Knight? Yeah, the big one he was.

1415
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: He was in my cubicle. So I'm in Safford. No,

1416
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: we said, no, that's in Arizona. Safford, Arizona. It's a

1417
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: it's a small it's about seventy five maybe a hundred people,

1418
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: so everybody's doing their bid. Guess who hit the yard?

1419
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: Key f d yep. I was in Federal prinsonal KEVD

1420
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: for about two years knowing we sat there and eight

1421
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: together watch basketball games. No, never never know him before,

1422
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: but you know, like I said, when you come in

1423
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: there or he from Compton, so the Compton car. Yeah,

1424
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: even if we from different sides, it's a it's a

1425
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: it's a low. You ain't on that bullshit. We too

1426
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: far with from home to be at each other throw

1427
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: things anywhere. So you know he was in there, but

1428
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: he wouldn't the same way he is now, just kind

1429
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: of zing. That's how he was, he wouldn't. And that's

1430
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: the first thing I've seen with a platinum chain, the

1431
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: little platinum that's when platinum was popping about. I think

1432
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: it's like two thousand one or two, and he had

1433
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: a little platinum cross. It's got to be a cross.

1434
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: But we knew, you know, niggas from Compton, we knew

1435
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: about the Tupac situation. But nobody got at him about that.

1436
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: We just kind of like, you know, but he wouldn't,

1437
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, he wouldn't allow my but he was, you know,

1438
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: we know each other. Said back watch basketball games, and

1439
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: the nigger gave me some advice to it. Was like

1440
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: when you when you start making money, you keep your

1441
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: hand tight, but tight enough so none we'll get out,

1442
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: but not tight enough to know them will get in.

1443
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: That was all. That's pretty cool, man. So yeah, keep

1444
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: you d man. Yeah. So when all this started happening,

1445
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: when he started being on the scene, now like damn,

1446
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: you know all this, I mean, you know, then I

1447
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: find out he got cancer, I was like, okay, you know,

1448
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: but yeah he was Yeah what I heard I heard.

1449
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: I think he might be in remission or he's recovering.

1450
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the details. But if you,

1451
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: if you talk to him like I did, he's a

1452
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: smart dude. Man, keep a few times, you know. Now,

1453
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: this is before he made that statement recorded by the

1454
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: police when they were investigating um they wanted, they were

1455
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: investigating biggie. But then he ended up spilling the whole

1456
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: beings on how they killed pot. Yeah. That that that

1457
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: was way before that. This one like in two thousand

1458
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: one or two thousand two, and he was in the

1459
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: pining together. Okay, but he got out and it wasn't

1460
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: too long after him getting out. When when did you

1461
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: get released from there? That's a good question. I think

1462
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: he left. I think I left before him. I think

1463
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 1: I did. But if he did leave before me, he

1464
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: went to camp. I think he went to Nellis. If

1465
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I think he went to Nellis. That's

1466
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: a camp in Vegas where you could just leave and

1467
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: come back on your workflow and all that stuff. But yeah,

1468
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: he was there, man, he was there, And like I said,

1469
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't got nothing that'd say about to do because

1470
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: me and it made a good you know, like a

1471
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: respect thing. So how many Compton people were there in Arizona?

1472
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: It was a lot of Compton people there. Man, it

1473
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: didn't matter. Blood y'all hanging together. You know we wouldn't

1474
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, buddy buddy taking pictures. But we all it's

1475
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: not a big prison, so you know each other. You

1476
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: know we're from comm okay, and then we kick around

1477
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: stories I might know somebody you know that, Oh really

1478
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: she had the baby fas Okay, that's my song, so

1479
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: you know like that. But it wasn't never on no game,

1480
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: bang and ship. Everything that happened, uh physical there was

1481
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: against the others or against somebody who wasn't from California.

1482
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing we got on the streets though,

1483
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: but being in jail that takes it to a different level.

1484
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: Being on the streets, we're killing each other and we

1485
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: got say police killing us too, So it's like a

1486
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: double jeopardy thing. You in prison, you're fighting each other,

1487
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: but then you got the as wps on your ass,

1488
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: or you got the Mesican mafia on your ass, you

1489
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we put ourselves in a

1490
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: position where we gotta constantly keep looking because we don't

1491
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: know if you're black, white, are Mesican coming to give me?

1492
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: Some people will say they'll look at that and said,

1493
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: so what's the as a game banging in the first place,

1494
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: Because when you get to that prison yard, all y'all

1495
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: are united regardless, right, well you have you have to

1496
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: be because in prison, no matter if you like it

1497
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: or not, you're gonna be segregated because either you don't

1498
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: have crips, you had the Bloods, you had the Muslims.

1499
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna have just the people who just straggling around,

1500
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,879
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have the white boys doing anything,

1501
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: the Essays doing anything. It's just you can't just be

1502
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: there like I'm not with nobody got in somewhere, and

1503
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: some people find the Lord. They get their little church

1504
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: group going, you know what I'm saying. But me, like

1505
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: I said, coming from off the street, are already you know, okay,

1506
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, and then you see people, oh ship, then

1507
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: I ain't see if this is where you're bad? Yeah? Man,

1508
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: fuck what you're doing it? Man now? And I'll tell you.

1509
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: So then you know, you get your mojo going, you

1510
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: start jelling, and then you just you know, that's that's

1511
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: how it is. So how much time had passed between

1512
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: the first bank robbery that you did that we just

1513
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: heard about and then you decided to do a second one. Uh,

1514
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: I sat on the money. Then I sucked that off. Shit. Man,

1515
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: it was probably about three weeks. Remember mind you, I

1516
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: ain't never had you know, full racks thirty five hunted.

1517
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: All of hustling I ever did didn't amount to that.

1518
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: So that's when I bought the homeboy money Carlo, and

1519
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, going back and forth to the swap meet,

1520
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, just sucking mind off, you know, because I'm

1521
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: already knowing this is fast, so I can just go

1522
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: hit another leag And at any point did you think

1523
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: this is this is not gonna work? Um, because then

1524
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: you did about two or three more after that. I'm

1525
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: assuming you didn't talk about those in detail, but I'm

1526
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 1: assuming those went off smooth. Yeah. The second one, the

1527
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: stakes got higher, the money was better, and I was

1528
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: getting I thought I was getting good because the first

1529
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: one I jumped over the table. It was like, you know,

1530
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: me the money. The second one I got on the

1531
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: table stood up so like a quarterback. I could see

1532
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: everything that's going on over the defense. So I was

1533
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: like okay. And then the third one, it was just

1534
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: it was just coming natural, you know, it just got

1535
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: better and better, so even out. Yet it was I

1536
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: went to the movies to see it and just like Homeboy,

1537
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: and um, what's the movie? We were talking about Payton

1538
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: food when he eating popcorn watching uh scar face smiling,

1539
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was doing. I was like, yeah,

1540
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: I see everybody getting their money, you know. But it

1541
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: was it was a drill in the rush. It was

1542
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: fun and it was just some gamester ship man, man,

1543
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, it was just good. You never walked into

1544
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: bank and just thought, man, I can get killed. No, no,

1545
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: that never crossed my mind. Never thought about a shootout

1546
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: or if the security guar I was gonna have a

1547
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: gun or none of that. I never thought about none

1548
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: of that because my adrenaline. All I'm thinking about was

1549
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: that motherfucking money. And and it's funny because I was

1550
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: I felt I was so good, nigga. I would go

1551
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: put my car in the shop knowing I'm gonna pay

1552
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: for that ship. I'm getting ready to rob a bank.

1553
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: I would do things like that, set myself up because

1554
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm knowing I'm going to rob a bank. So if

1555
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: I got thirty five four thousand the first time, ship,

1556
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: thinking if I keep doing this, I'm gonna get more

1557
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: and more and more. So I was just that confident.

1558
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: And the sign was there even before that came. When

1559
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: me and my relative was in the driveway and we

1560
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: had his his female friend house. We're sitting out there

1561
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: chomping it up, talking to police super poop, Hey, what

1562
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? All were just hanging out, and

1563
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: it was okay, mind if I searching, all go ahead.

1564
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: So he pulled out a big ass load of money

1565
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 1: I had and it had the red dye on it,

1566
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: and he was like, so, where'd you come up with this?

1567
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: I sold my car so I can get something else,

1568
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: and he gave it back to me. But that still

1569
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: didn't register because I'm still it's just so much ship

1570
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: that was happening. And then I had a little stash

1571
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: spot that I kept like under the couch, and my

1572
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: mom paid me one day and she said, you better

1573
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: get home. Your brother then found your money, and I

1574
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: was like, oh, fucking my little brother too too, and

1575
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: he found my little and it's just, you know, it

1576
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: was just so much ship. But I was just so

1577
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: fast with it. I just knew what I was going

1578
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: to do. Your first bank lick, that was your share

1579
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: of a bigger amount of money that was that was taken.

1580
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 1: What's considered like a good successful amount of money on

1581
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: a bank robbery, Well, it depends on the bigger crew

1582
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: you have. So we only had three people, uh, two

1583
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: of us inside and the old man driver. Now what

1584
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: I didn't get was the homebole who put me on

1585
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: the lick. The nigger would orchestra ship go find the

1586
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: banks to hit, but he wouldn't go in them. So

1587
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: now I'm getting kind of hips. So about the third

1588
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: bank robbery, I saw asking him, so, how do you

1589
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: know what banks to hit? You just find one or

1590
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: how do you do it? He said, he goes scope

1591
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: it out, you know, prior and sending one of his

1592
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: brawls in there, and she come back and detail him.

1593
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: So I went off on my own and did the

1594
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: same thing. I was like, oh, okay, this is how

1595
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: we're doing it. So that's how that happened. But to

1596
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: answer your question, so you got a little crew, so say,

1597
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: you know, between three people were talking about the nineties. Now,

1598
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: sixty thousand is pretty good set up with three people.

1599
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: So the most I ever got out of a lick

1600
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: was about forty But at nineteen yea, that's pretty good.

1601
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: And I didn't have no expenses. You know, I didn't

1602
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: have a drinking problem. I didn't smoke weed, I didn't party.

1603
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: All I did was go back and forth to the

1604
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: swath meeting by days. That's all the funk I did.

1605
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Put music, and every car had that. You weren't flipping

1606
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: the money back into the water game, and so tired

1607
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: from a ya. And then it's finally because the second league,

1608
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: I had the big face hundreds. It wasn't no fifties,

1609
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't no twenties, it was the big faces. So

1610
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: motherfucker's thought that was fake. So I can say I

1611
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: probably was one of the first people who had the

1612
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: big face. I had to go to the Avalon swapped me,

1613
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: get off the motherfucker's and nobody wouldn't sunk with me.

1614
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: You couldn't spend the money, but but they took it

1615
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 1: because I had. You know, um, the Avalon swapped me

1616
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: for people who don't know that's a blood swap me.

1617
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: So all the bloods go there and you just build

1618
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: a relationship with people, put your music in, you go

1619
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,839
Speaker 1: buy T shirts there and you know, you have a picnic.

1620
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: They put your little hood ship on the back of

1621
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: your sweater, so I knew the dude, They okay, cool,

1622
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: you know whatever, you know. So that was how I

1623
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: got off the hundred dollar bills. But then they became

1624
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: more popular. People knew what they were. Then. Have you

1625
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 1: ever heard of that LPD officer named David Mack He

1626
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: goes back to the death Row days that actually walked

1627
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: into the Bank of America on Jefferson and McClintock, and

1628
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: he walked out with seven hundred thousands in a duffel bag.

1629
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: Do that he had a girl on the inside, and

1630
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: he was a police officer. He ended up doing twelve years,

1631
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: he got sentence, and they never found the seven hundred racks.

1632
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: And see that's why I think even though I didn't

1633
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: get no money from the last one, but they pretty

1634
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: much knew, okay, this ain't his first time robbing the bank.

1635
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: He probably got a staff somewhere. That's why they didn't

1636
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: give me bail. And lucky for me, no old bank

1637
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: robberies ever came up because they can try to pin

1638
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: that on it, so you wouldn't convicted of just that one.

1639
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: I was kind of nervous about that if those would

1640
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: have ever come back up, because they weren't like, oh

1641
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: that was last year, Holly. You know they can't. You know,

1642
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm forty three, man, I was nineteen when I mean,

1643
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: you know, how't gonna you got kids? Nope? No kids,

1644
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: No kids, man, Nope. And I can't have not anything.

1645
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: You don't want them or I can't. I would and

1646
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: got myself fixed because you didn't want no kids? Well

1647
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, yes and no. But I see so many

1648
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: situations that's funked up, and I like, I can't go

1649
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: through that because that child support ship is a motherfucker.

1650
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have to pay a child support if you

1651
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: did the And I can't even say that because I

1652
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: got I got baby mama's and and I didn't think

1653
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: about living with one of them until my first one.

1654
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: When I got out of prison. I was with her.

1655
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: But my thing with her is live your life while

1656
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm in here, you know what I'm saying. But when

1657
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 1: I get out of here, get rid of him. You

1658
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: see that was that wasp that happened to me? You

1659
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: come home? Hey, what's that a way here from you?

1660
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: He was getting rid of this my but I got

1661
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: shogged now, so it's had to we you do so

1662
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing. I'm riding around and moments and

1663
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: ship phones. I got the phone you carry it. I

1664
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: went plug in. So I'm doing my thing, so I

1665
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: ain't trimping off my baby. Mama's so you didn't want

1666
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: her back anymore after you came home from prison. No, no,

1667
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: we we're still friends today. We went through our little

1668
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: What's calling? But my son is thirty six, and I

1669
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: mean we're cool now. But we went through it. But

1670
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: do your thing while I'm in here. You got enough

1671
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: time to do it. You want to suck around, I

1672
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: can't stop you. And I ain't gonna be dreaming about

1673
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: you sucking another nigg so and I ain't gonna be

1674
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: tanning my ship thinking about you. But it must be

1675
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: a little stressful though, Like you in prison, you're you're

1676
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: confined and you're like, damn, who's Who's Who's messing with

1677
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: my woman? Right now? You know what? It really it

1678
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: wasn't for me. I mean, you had those moments. But

1679
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: every prison I went to, she was there. She regardless

1680
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: of she had this dude, she was at every prison.

1681
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: I kept a package. You know what I'm saying. Through

1682
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 1: heard my mom's and my sisters I was always good,

1683
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: So every prison I went to, she was there, so

1684
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. But when I came home, you didn't

1685
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: do what I said, so it was trying to bounce.

1686
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: I got up. I bounced, and I'm on the motherfucker

1687
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: that playing North Carolina with ship with me. I went

1688
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: in with nobody. So I didn't have a main chick

1689
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: because you was kind of young. I was really young.

1690
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: I was when you was a teenager when you got

1691
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: so I wasn't, so I didn't I didn't have oh man,

1692
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: my my, my girl and my this. I was like,

1693
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: well ship man, you know. And then at that time

1694
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: you run into cats who've been in there fifteen twenty years,

1695
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna lace you. You know what I'm saying.

1696
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: They tell you, like I said, when you get in there,

1697
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: all that love and your girlfriend and your car and

1698
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: all that you leave at in R and D, you're

1699
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: starting a whole new program, your program. Man, I haven't

1700
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: seen it all on the phone crying, you know what

1701
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They they just just and you know, something

1702
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 1: wrong because when the motherfucker body languages on the phone

1703
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: and they hunched over like man, you know, and I'm

1704
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: still trying to keep the player mode, like, you know,

1705
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: I get some more when I get out, so you

1706
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: don't think about having a son or teaching your son. No,

1707
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of nephews. I got his sons

1708
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: and my my sister, and so it's you know, I

1709
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: don't have none of my own. But it's cool, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1710
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: they you know I'm like uncle daddy. If that makes yeah,

1711
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm still too. So you know it makes you you know, going, oh,

1712
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: I got my g d in there, so yeah, I

1713
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: got I did something. I picked up some weight walls

1714
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: in there because I was like a buck fifty man, nigga,

1715
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 1: look well you look like you got a little side

1716
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: of the shirt. I see. That's the thing. I didn't

1717
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: hit no iron. I wasn't athlete and none of that

1718
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: ship in high school and I went to prison. Now

1719
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I got on the iron, start hooping because you're there.

1720
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: That's that's that's fresh exactly. I got good at basketball,

1721
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: and man, it was like ship, I'm pretty good. Then

1722
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: you start thinking like fuck, I should have been doing

1723
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: this ship man. Then you know they had a band room.

1724
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I learned how to play the drums in there. It

1725
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: was it was all kind of ship. Yeah, situation. Yeah,

1726
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: you got to most of us don't. Yep. I've got

1727
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: on the iron start lifting weights and just you know,

1728
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: and your skills not what they offer you, but what

1729
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: you see around your people. Skills get better. You know

1730
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: when the motherfucked bullshit because Nigel tell you. Yeah, man,

1731
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: I was so on so on the street. Well come

1732
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: here and never go to the store or motherfucker keep

1733
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Hey man, you gotta sup all right, hey man, you

1734
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: gotta sauce things like hold that. That's what you don't do. Now.

1735
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: You got to break this clown neck because you know,

1736
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: you learn what not to do. You don't gamble unless

1737
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: you can cover your debt exactly because gamble is a

1738
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: no no. Actually made you a better person. Yeah, yeah,

1739
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: you made some real It's two things that I know

1740
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: I could have learned in there because I had uh

1741
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: dudes trying to They knew everybody know when everybody going home.

1742
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: So it was dudes like, man, he gets out. Man,

1743
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: you know you can hideight this person. I'm like, no,

1744
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: they try to put you to work because they know

1745
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: you're a good dude. You you if I'm spending three

1746
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: years with you, I see you. Every fucking day. We

1747
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: eat child together, we go to the red room, we

1748
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: watched the games every day. We know each other. See,

1749
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: my folks don't know me like that no more, because

1750
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: I didn't evolve. You talked to me on the phone.

1751
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: You may see me once a year and there, but

1752
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: you don't really know me no more. Either. I'm gonna

1753
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: come out even more fucked up than I was, more

1754
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: of a rider, or I'm gonna just man, he changed,

1755
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I've seen it before.

1756
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's walk with that bible. When you get out, they're

1757
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: sending pictures with strippers and all, and then next thing

1758
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker fall out. This guy, What then are

1759
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: you doing back here? Man? Later and I was like, oh, man,

1760
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: come yeah, that's that recentivism. Great boy. Yeah, but I

1761
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: knew I ain't man, I ain't got in troubles. I'm like, man,

1762
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: I can't be doing this. Ship Man. I had long hair,

1763
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: cut my hair off and all kind of ship. Man

1764
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: was like, now I can't be doing So you got

1765
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: out and said to yourself, Man, there's no way I'm

1766
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: going back to this place. No. I couldn't do that

1767
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: no more. Man, that was. It was slow starting off,

1768
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: then it's speed up, and then your last few months

1769
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: you'd be like funk man, harry up and get this

1770
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: ship over it. But I knew once I was there,

1771
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, talking to different people, and they say, nigger,

1772
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna go by fast, so you better get on it.

1773
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Whatever you're playing on doing, you better start doing it.

1774
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: And sure ship that motherfucker went by fast. And then

1775
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: they come when they do this, roll it up, I'm

1776
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: going I'm already packed. But yeah, man, so in there

1777
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: you just you learn, you learn people skills. We have

1778
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: to your co defendants in that case, one went to

1779
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: Leavenworth because this nigger had uh he had priors from

1780
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: the eighties, so he was that's the maximum security. Yeah, yeah,

1781
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: lead Worth h Uh, Indiana Terror hut. That's where mother's

1782
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: got all day sixty seventy years. Yeah. I was in

1783
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: there with the what the dude to real cool white

1784
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: dude owned U, the Los Angeles Kings, Bruce mcnal. I

1785
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: was in there when I'm real cool dude. Yeah, I

1786
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: wasn't there with with a few catch man. I say,

1787
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: kep d was real cool. You got dudes and there

1788
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: with money man so you know back then when I went,

1789
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't shipp there you get them fun. I don't

1790
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 1: even trip. It was motherfucker's in there, fucking guards and

1791
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: all kind of ship man. But you don't, you know,

1792
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: you don't be saying and let them, you know, do

1793
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: the ship. Well, man, I want to thank you Junior

1794
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: for coming on and telling than me. Man, I appreciate it.

1795
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate it. I'm just glad and I just

1796
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: want other people to see the life you live and

1797
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: how we all live. We all been there just and

1798
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: then your story bank robbing at nineteen. I mean, you know,

1799
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: we get into some ship and then you survived it. So, man,

1800
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate and I hope everybody that listen pretty much

1801
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: understanding I'm not going to go rober band. Oh no,

1802
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, most of it, I mean,

1803
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for myself. Was for women, I'm keeping it one.

1804
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know when I don't want to ball

1805
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: show off for you, but see you was a pretty guy. Yeah.

1806
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: But the thing is most you know, most men, you're

1807
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: not supposed to be jealous of another man, even if

1808
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: he got the bitches him exactly find out what the

1809
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. Okay, if you have to change

1810
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: the way you dress, change the way you look, so

1811
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: you figured it out. I figured it out fast. So I,

1812
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: like I said, I wouldn't athlete, I wouldn't in and

1813
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: none of that. I wanted the bitches. So I couldn't

1814
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: get no bitches walking and I couldn't be walking. And

1815
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm from Tree Top, Paru. That ain't gonna happen. So

1816
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: the night, I say, for me nine five percent was

1817
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: doing it for the girls. Because when you pull up

1818
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: back then, they had words called car hop and you

1819
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: just I mean, Daton's was everything. You didn't even day

1820
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: everything back then. So you go from chrome to gold,

1821
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: eight to a hundred spokes and that's you know, that's

1822
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: why I did it, man. But now you know, when

1823
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I talked to my nephews and stuff like that, and

1824
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: they got it. I mean, the youngswers. Now they got

1825
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: the game on lock. They ain't gone wrong as long

1826
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 1: as you can ants and you got you know, skinny

1827
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: jeans on and I ain't doing none of that. But

1828
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: you know it's just they do. They got their own

1829
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: mojor they're doing Because when I started wearing khakis, and

1830
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: people's name. Ain't dressing like that? Where do these flecks?

1831
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not wearing that. You can't. I think

1832
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: it's important to emphasize in your story is that you

1833
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: stayed out of prison. You got out and you ain't

1834
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: been back. Just sitting here chatting with you. It don't

1835
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: look like you're ever going back. No, man, you can't

1836
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 1: do that. I really picked ship out of a dolt

1837
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: that for two PI before I go back to prison. Fun. No,

1838
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 1: all right, well, let's wrap up another episode of The

1839
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles. Um, we Missred. We can't wait for him

1840
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: to come back, and hopefully we'll have him in some

1841
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: point in shout out to Reggie And if you enjoyed

1842
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: this episode, please copy and paste and share this with

1843
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,680
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1844
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,759
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1845
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,240
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1846
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: and give us some questions and we'll answer your questions

1847
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 1: on the air. And Junior, is there anywhere that people

1848
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: can find you online our social media? Yeah? I g

1849
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: at hub C D O n E. I'm the one

1850
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: with the zip lip because I don't be talking much

1851
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: so my my little face is a little happy face

1852
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: with the zip lip, all right, So go hit Junior

1853
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: up if you want to know more about the story. Um,

1854
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 1: don't forget to hit James McDonald up and get those

1855
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: death Row shirts on his Facebook, on his number and

1856
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: you can find me at Alex Alonso one zero one,

1857
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: and we are out out. This has been a digital show,

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Speaker 1: much network production.