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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always available for a

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Speaker 1: fourth round conditional pick if there's financial considerations in.

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Speaker 2: Yourself a little more for me. Yeah, I'm cheap.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is NFL Daily. I'm here in the Chris.

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Speaker 1: Westling podcast studio two of my favorite people in the world,

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and Jordan Rodrigan. Today they are representing the

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Speaker 1: Yin and the Yang. Colleen coming off a record setting

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Speaker 1: sixteen hours of sleep just is amazing right now.

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Speaker 4: I feel I wish I could say I feel refreshed,

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Speaker 4: but I don't, so I don't know what's wrong with me.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Jordan rodriga of The Athletic, coming off of

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Speaker 1: a day where Colleen is saying that she feels a

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Speaker 1: little dark energy from Jordan, but I like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is like I'm into this, Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Let's despare Oh okay, we do we just get into it.

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Speaker 1: I know we we we had an idea for a

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Speaker 1: show and maybe we'll do it in the future of

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Speaker 1: like where like the Despair rankings, it actually feels like

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Speaker 1: there's more teams than ever that don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of hope seven to eight and we're actually gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about the potential sellers and that that's the list

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Speaker 1: of the teams. But again, let's just get to it, Jordan,

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Speaker 1: let's not let's not mess around. So on Sunday, and yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be previewing the trade deadline. It's it's two

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Speaker 1: weeks from when we're taping this, and that sounds like

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Speaker 1: a long time, but this is when all the conversation

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Speaker 1: is gonna pick up. A lot of those trades actually

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Speaker 1: in the past few years were about one week before

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Speaker 1: they did move the trade deadline back. So conversation is

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Speaker 1: gonna pick up over the next couple of weeks. It's

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Speaker 1: a nice time to just go through potential trades we'd

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Speaker 1: like to see and just talk about the market in general.

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Speaker 1: But before we get at that specific Like, you're in

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Speaker 1: the middle of one of these stories, Jordan, because the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams might be one of the potential sellers,

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Speaker 1: and you reported on Sunday that Cooper Cup could potentially

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Speaker 1: be available in a trade. Ian Rapaport of NFL Network

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Speaker 1: had a similar rapport.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Ian, if you're listening, Ian had

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Speaker 2: it first.

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Speaker 3: Oh Diddy, I didn't even know that. Okay, So I.

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Speaker 2: Wrap a point he's not listening rapit points is good.

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Speaker 1: I did see him send a nice tech tweet out

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Speaker 1: though about your play Caller series.

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Speaker 2: Though that made my job before my morning devolved into chaos.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Big Big John spy tech pop this week,

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Speaker 1: your your guests.

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Speaker 3: Not to get too far off track.

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Speaker 1: I did love your one with Alec Hallaby and the

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Speaker 1: Eagles last week, So yes, people should check out the

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Speaker 1: play Callers.

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Speaker 3: But let's talk. Let's talk Cooper Cup like, what do

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Speaker 3: you see?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Where is this at?

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Speaker 2: What do you think it's fluid? Right? Because let's also

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Speaker 2: add the context of the a little bit of actual

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Speaker 2: news today where the Rams opened up Pukaakua's twenty one

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Speaker 2: day window to return, so this is a team that's

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Speaker 2: getting healthy now. It is also true they have spoken

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Speaker 2: a trade. They were getting calls on him earlier in

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Speaker 2: this fall, even when he was recovering from the injury,

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Speaker 2: which is worth I reported Sunday, and it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: the jokey calls they used to get on Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 2: ha ha everyone laughs about it. This year. Every year,

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Speaker 2: it and all that. But this was not that. This

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Speaker 2: was hey, would this guy actually be available? What would

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Speaker 2: it actually take? Those types of calls that the Rams

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Speaker 2: of things, and so this is significant, not just because

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Speaker 2: it's Cooper Cup and he's been the heartbeat of this

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Speaker 2: now where they're talking about potentially and teams are wondering

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Speaker 4: And it changes the trade market completely to know that

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Speaker 4: the names aren't exactly popping out like a Cooper Cup would.

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Speaker 5: Despite the health history that he has.

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Speaker 4: But Deontay Johnson, Christian Kirk, DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Boyd. I mean,

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Speaker 3: It have to be the right fit.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe we'll jump into it because I might

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Speaker 1: I thought early this season that was the best he

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Speaker 1: I think he looked good early this season, but then

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Speaker 1: to me to trade for Cooper Cup. I would think

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Speaker 1: that would hurt his value, and that there's finances to

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Speaker 1: I do have some potential trades. But if you want

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say too that like the NFC

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Speaker 2: The Rams have been so hurt that it's hard to

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Speaker 2: I wrote that I feel like that is the identity,

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Speaker 2: and it has been, but it's been start stop, start stop,

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup and Puka to Kua, but Cooper hasn't been

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Speaker 2: like you're straddling the between two worlds. What a world

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Speaker 2: and what a world where you get them back and

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Speaker 2: You're almost tempted, like, Okay, the NFC West is still

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Speaker 2: it time for one last ride with the gang altogether

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Speaker 2: and healthy? Right Steve Avula also coming back later this fall,

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Speaker 2: you know, is it time for one last ride to

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Speaker 2: is this the time to say, Okay, this era is

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Speaker 2: already had to have one foot in by proxy of

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Speaker 1: Right, And look, last year they were a dynamic offense

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Speaker 1: at But they're gonna have him back. They're hoping within

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Speaker 1: this twenty one day practice window. Thank you, Walker. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the game on Thursday night. We're actually

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Speaker 1: gonna preview that game, and the timing of it's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough game Vikings at Rams and we can

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Speaker 1: have the Vikings this week, and then they have the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: a division game in week nine before the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: That could all play into it.

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Speaker 2: I also am very hyper aware as I was prepping

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Speaker 2: for this that I try to avoid talking a lot

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Speaker 2: about the Rams because I.

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Speaker 3: Know that that's now, They're in the middle. That's right.

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Speaker 2: But now, but now I'm like, oh my god, it's

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Speaker 2: almost like the karmic balance of the universe cycled background

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Speaker 2: Thursday night game Cooper Cup potentially on the block, like

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Speaker 2: this is a let's see if Matt Stafford gets on

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Speaker 2: the block in the next couple weeks, we'll put a

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's happening.

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Speaker 1: That really hasn't been out there, But you do wonder

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Speaker 1: if they lost a couple of these games, let's just

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Speaker 1: tuck where Cup could go. I'm going to propose a trade.

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Speaker 1: I switched midstream. I'm going bucks Liam Cohen. Liam Cohen

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Speaker 1: injury with Chris Godwin. If I'm looking for a comfert

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin is obviously a younger version of it.

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Speaker 3: But that makes a lot of sense to me. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Mike evans Is injury makes it

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Speaker 5: Oh God.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're not trying to put him on IR because

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Speaker 1: that's probably missing three games. Like, do they even believe

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Speaker 1: it's worth trading for a Cooper Cup? Either way, They're

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Speaker 1: a team that does not like to give up their

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Speaker 3: They're a team that makes sense on papers.

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Speaker 4: And there's so many teams that need a wide receiver

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Speaker 4: and the Bucks just kind of jumped into that pool

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Speaker 4: last night after the injuries. You have the Bucks, the

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Speaker 4: Chargers could use a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, I can't imagine the Rams and Chargers

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Speaker 1: LA teams it's like sneaky rivalry. It's not amongst the fans,

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Speaker 4: Think the front offices have a big rivalry than the fans.

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Speaker 1: Do. Yes, I do. Like they're sharing a stadium. It's

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Speaker 1: like the Rams stadium, but the Chargers are the tenants.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Niners too. There are so many teams that

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Speaker 4: need a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: They see they love Cooper cup Tea. They don't want to.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to see them.

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Speaker 2: Like proof that Kyle and Sean are good now we swear,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I like, I actually like. I would love

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Speaker 2: the fit with the Charge. I'll tell you I'll love

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Speaker 2: the fit with the Charge, right. I don't see it

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Speaker 2: he is on the move. What about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone did a photoshop and it just looks so natural.

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Speaker 2: But the thing too So I was reading when I

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Speaker 2: You know, Jonathan Jones at CBS was talking about the

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Speaker 1: But it's the Panthers. The Patriots would certainly be looking

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Speaker 1: for draft picks. Man. That Matthew Judain trade looks amazing

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Speaker 3: For the Falcons by far. The worst year of his career.

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Speaker 1: The Browns certainly that the Titans, the Jaguars, the Giants

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Speaker 3: The Raiders, the.

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Speaker 2: You meet a receiver. That's what I'm saying specificly because

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Speaker 2: we were talking about Cooper Cup. You know, he seems

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Speaker 2: about you know, Deontay Johnson gets open?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Johnson seems like an awesome pickup for me.

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Speaker 4: I actually also, once out of Carolina, he's looked better

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Speaker 5: Why don't he get something for him in return?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Deontae Johnson to me is the guy that I'd want

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Speaker 2: Some what I do have it in my notes, could

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Speaker 2: And so that Deonce Johnson bring you, I don't see

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Speaker 5: What about Mike Williams back to the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: That's why I had on my list with potential trades.

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Speaker 1: I had Chargers trade for Deontay Johnson because like, give

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Speaker 4: I was actually going to send Deontay Johnson to the Niners.

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Speaker 2: I would like that fit Deontay Johnson in San Francis.

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Speaker 1: And they've they've shown they're not afraid to make these

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Speaker 1: I just I could just imagine DeAndre Hopkins there, So that's.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yes, that's my trade. I could just like to

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Speaker 1: And you're right actually with Cooper Cup because he is

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Speaker 1: that's the role Cooper Cup would be in. Like, sorry, Juju,

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Speaker 3: It's not really about the separation.

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Speaker 2: The will love us of it all that will love

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Speaker 1: Did we did we talk Steelers at all? In these

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Speaker 1: fields at State?

442
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Speaker 5: No, I was different.

443
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Speaker 3: I don't.

444
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 2: I don't regret that. All I'm saying is I think

445
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: that that seeing proof of concept prompts them to want

446
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more aggressive pursuing particularly this

447
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: this and there are guys, all the ones we've mentioned,

448
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: each in each in a vacuum in their own way,

449
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 2: would kind of fit that offense and fit what Arthur

450
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 2: Smith likes to do or what or what Russell Wilson

451
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 2: likes to do. And Michael Williams maybe yeah, making maybe

452
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 2: bringing someone like that in blends the two together art

453
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 2: Smith and Russell and mediator in between.

454
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 4: Okay, while we're on wide, receivers were thrown in there.

455
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 5: Niners.

456
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 4: I know we've talked about the Niners, but Kendrick Bourne

457
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: was signed there as an undrafted free agent originally, and

458
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 4: they watched him grow and develop, so he already has

459
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 4: some type of familiarity with the playbook and all of

460
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: the rumors that swirled that San Francisco wanted Born in

461
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 4: a package for Ayuk earlier this year, So maybe that's

462
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 4: something that they are still kind of exploring at this point.

463
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 5: But why would you keep him in New England?

464
00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I know that he just signed this

465
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 4: three year extension and he's a good player for them,

466
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 4: but you could have Drake May working with these younger

467
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: receivers who he already has a connection with, like the

468
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: de Mario Douglas and Jalen Polk. So I kind of

469
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 4: like moving Kendrick Bourne for them right now.

470
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Speaker 3: I could see that.

471
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 2: I just think it's I could see him in Tampa sneakily.

472
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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are just going to try to

473
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Speaker 1: get picks. Like I said that Judon trade looks pretty

474
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: good now is like a hard three for a guy

475
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: who's maybe closer to the end. And I think Elliot

476
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: Wolf now running their front office, they're going to be

477
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: looking for picks in general.

478
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: And if they are yes, looking for picks in general,

479
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: something I like to see. And I was texting you

480
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: a little bit about this last night, Greg josh Ucha.

481
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 2: I know he turned down the fifteen million dollar rumored

482
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: contract with the eleven million guaranteed from an unnamed team,

483
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: and he said he wanted to be a part of

484
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: the Patriots, and he said he wanted to help a

485
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: young team grow and develop. But it is not good

486
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: vibes there right now, doesn't So.

487
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: I wonder how he's feeling about that, right And.

488
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: It's clear too that he really thrives with a rushing partner. Okay,

489
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: so follow the thread with me, Stick with me, bear

490
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: with me. I know I'm rambly. I'd love the Lions

491
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: to trade for him, Okay. I would love the Lions

492
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: to trade for him, not just to help them out

493
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: in the short term without Aiden Hutchinson, but even before

494
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson got hurt, they needed a rushing partner for him.

495
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: On the other side. And so for me, if I'm

496
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 2: looking at this, you know what, do we patch together

497
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: here while Aiden is out? But if there's a combination

498
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: move that would suit them in the short term and

499
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: the long term, I think that josh u Ja could

500
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: be that person. And when he had a partner before

501
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: the Judon trade, when he had a partner, he was

502
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 2: getting a twenty one point one percent pressure rate in

503
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two his best and it was it was

504
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: very clear how well he flowed intent. It hasn't looked

505
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: like that this this year, and so I do want

506
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: to see that happen. And the Lions they need help

507
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: regardless they have to be in the OLB pass rusher market.

508
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: I mean, well they needed it before Aiden Hutchinson went down.

509
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 4: With Marcus Davenport's absence as well, I kind of like

510
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 4: a Zadarius Smith to see that, actually Sadarius Smith to

511
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 4: somewhere in the NFC North again, because I also would

512
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: love a reunion with the Packers. And it's not like

513
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: that is a need a pressing need for them, but

514
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: you could never have too many pass rushers. They have

515
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 4: a great rotation now and like why not the Browns

516
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 4: should and could be sellers. They already shipped off a market.

517
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then they lost this recent game and

518
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: they lost their starting quarterback, and why not?

519
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: I like that. I think it's less likely with the Packers.

520
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: There was maybe some hard feelings there with his like

521
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: how they termed his injuries and payments and like he

522
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: went out ugly. But sometimes they make up, like you know,

523
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: but they were. It was not a happy divorce there,

524
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: he was not. I think how they treated his back injury.

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: If I remember right, I hear you go to the Lion. Yeah,

526
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: Lions is perfect. I hear you on josh Ucca. But

527
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with a bigger ticket item. I mean,

528
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: we're going for the super Bowl here. We got to

529
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: get there just to get Aiden Hutchiton back on the field.

530
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: Uh no, Max Crosby, I have been told I would love.

531
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: To see him in Detroit.

532
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: I imagine Michigan man going back to Michigan.

533
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good call. I think is from Michigan

534
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: as well.

535
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: So there you go. People love to do that. It's

536
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: always like just pick the local guy. But it does

537
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: happen that way more than you would expect.

538
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 5: I think it happens a lot more with Michigan and

539
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 5: with Georgia.

540
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, there's just a lot of football players from

541
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: from Georgia, especially all right, let's go. No, I've I

542
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: dug around a little bit about Max Crosby and just

543
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: people just say that this is not gonna happen.

544
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: Mark Davis.

545
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 1: Losing Mark Davis just it's up to him ultimately, and

546
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he I think he knows what that

547
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: would mean for his fan base.

548
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: And end of it.

549
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: He is a quintessential raider. He also was the person

550
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: who lobby to make sure that Antonio Pierce was the guy.

551
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: You can't just disappear after that. You got to see

552
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: through what you've openly committed to. And that's even before.

553
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's I would love to see

554
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: him in Detroit. I don't even think that's a thought

555
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: in his mind or the franchises now. No, I would

556
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: love to see it.

557
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: He's the voice that everyone listens to. It's almost like

558
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: he is a head coach in a way.

559
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: He is like to put him on the side of

560
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: the helmet, just make it a picture of Mac.

561
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: I'd be sick, you know, with the IPAP sick.

562
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to make a fun narrative trade, which

563
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: is that the Lions trade for Trayvon Walker from the Jaguars,

564
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: who for a conditional third round pick, can become a

565
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: second if he hits some very hard conditions. Trayvon Walker

566
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: has gotten a little bit better every year, yes, and

567
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: I think it's actually taken a bigger step this year

568
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: than people have noticed. He's now a good enough pass rusher,

569
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: not a difference maker, but a strong guy, physical, will

570
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: set the edge good and run support and seems like

571
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: the type of guys that the Lions like. They have

572
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: a beefy, you know, front, they like guys they want

573
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: to be able to stop the run. And you know

574
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: he's maybe not a bend the edge type of guy,

575
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: and you do it's almost hard to imagine thinking back

576
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: to that draft that Trent Balki.

577
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: Would, you know, God trade him.

578
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: To the team that got Aiden Hutcheson the much better choice.

579
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: But I do like the idea of those two guys

580
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: just being on the same team. So for fun, I'm

581
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: just throwing that one out there. It's trade's we want

582
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: to see, and that would that would be a fun one.

583
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: That's the defensive player I'm giving to the Lions.

584
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate that. I mean, I like that. I

585
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: just think I just don't think it will happen. I

586
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: like that you like it, and I would love to

587
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: see it as well, because again, his physical skill set

588
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: does fit what they like for that line. And this

589
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: is again kind of like what I said with Och,

590
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: like this is a short term, long term just in

591
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: my opinion, Yes, they need a guy who they can

592
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: patch in in the short term. But if I'm if

593
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm Brad Holmes, and I'm thinking about how he might

594
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: be thinking right now, he's trying to find if there's

595
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: a sweet spot, if there is a guy who they

596
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: can bring in, and and and frankly, maybe less worried

597
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: about the capital needed to acquire someone of a higher tier.

598
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: Understanding that, okay, then maybe you extend someone and then

599
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: you know you're you're pairing him with Aiden Hutcheson, who

600
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: is an uncertain physical return from the from the injury, Like.

601
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: You can't expect him to be back this year.

602
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: No, no, no, of course not. But I'm saying in

603
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: terms of caliber, like I have no doubt he's going

604
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: to still be a great player, but you just don't know,

605
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: So you have to have, at least to me, a

606
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: high caliber person who you could potentially pair them with.

607
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: I want to know what you guys think. Do you

608
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: guys think that like Aziz Ojulari.

609
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: Could be that's another one. Yeah, that's a good one.

610
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: I like that one.

611
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Cayvon Thibodau's coming back soon from the injury.

612
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: He's played well this year.

613
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: At moments in his career he's looked like a really

614
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: good pass rusher, and then at other moments they just

615
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: like bench him and he's their fourth or fifth pass rusher.

616
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: But he was on the list of players that were

617
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: just like floating out there as available from Ian Rapport.

618
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 3: Rap Aport I always just say that name. I just

619
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: it's hard to say rap Aport Rapport Rapport.

620
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: He put Preston Smith out there as another guy who

621
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: could be available. I was like, Oh, that's a weird one.

622
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: You know, subtly, if they are looking for just a

623
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: one year patch of someone who is very physical once

624
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: he gets back from the injury, are we talking about

625
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: maybe Jadavian Clowney that possible sellers. But that to me,

626
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: that wouldn't be like a short term, long term thing

627
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: that could be And so I think if I'm remembering

628
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 2: an iconic moment correctly on the opposite side of an

629
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: iconic Michigan play, Jadevian Clowney, that's right. I don't know

630
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: the helmet popping off and what was that? That was him? Right?

631
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: That was But was that was Michigan.

632
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: Involved in that? On the other side, I think, I

633
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

634
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I have no idea it was Michigan. So we're idiots.

635
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a college guy. I mean, I remember the play,

636
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: but I.

637
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Just figure, I just remember the iconic scene of that

638
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: helmet rolling, and we can cut this.

639
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: If it's not right, it's fine, it is right. It

640
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: is right. Uh.

641
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I had Ojelari going. I was thinking, who needs a

642
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: pass rush team? Like the forty nine ers. They're a

643
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: team I could see picking up like a relatively low

644
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: cost pass rusher. They could trade for Chase Young again,

645
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: that would be funny. Yeah, I don't know if they

646
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: would do that. The Falcons, even though.

647
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: Falcons forever need a pass rush guy always, like, no

648
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: matter what they do, they still need help.

649
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: So they're another team. I thought about.

650
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: Harold Landry is another pass rusher I think that I

651
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen out there and he's on a team that's

652
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: really sinking in terms of the Tennessee Titans. He's better

653
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: than it. I think he was when he first came

654
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: back from his reconstructive surgery. And so the Falcons are

655
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: a team I could maybe see being in on these

656
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: edg rusher guys. Maybe the ear Eagles, even though they've

657
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: put a lot of resources into Edges, they kind of

658
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Speaker 1: never get tired of putting more resources into.

659
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Speaker 5: How he loves to do splashy things.

660
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Speaker 1: So all right, maybe let's take a quick break. We're

661
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Speaker 1: gonna come back. We're gonna wrap up talking about all

662
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Speaker 1: the potential trades that we want to see on this

663
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Speaker 1: trade deadline preview spectacular, and we'll talk a little TNF

664
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Speaker 1: Kanza back on NFL Daily, coming up with some trades

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Speaker 1: we'd like to see. Yeah, And if I was, I

666
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Speaker 1: was coming up.

667
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Speaker 3: With the rankings of like what teams are most likely

668
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Speaker 3: to make up move like to break someone in.

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Speaker 1: Who would be Lions number one, yep, forty nine, Ers

670
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Speaker 1: I think would be high up there.

671
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Speaker 2: Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Steelers never do it though, So.

673
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Speaker 4: That's why it's like always the bridesmaid.

674
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Speaker 2: I think three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put the Ravens on my list, just

676
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Speaker 1: because they know that this is their year and they

677
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Speaker 1: think they want to make sure they're doing everything they

678
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Speaker 1: possibly can. The Bucks I'm going to present the Bucks

679
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Speaker 1: would be up there in the top five. I'm going

680
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Speaker 1: to present to you a fun one. I really like

681
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Speaker 1: this one.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it better be good.

683
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Speaker 3: The Ravens trade for Saints.

684
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Speaker 1: Cornerback Marshaan Lattimore, one of the best cornerbacks in the

685
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: league when healthy and playing very well when he's been

686
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: on the field this year been a rocky relationship. I

687
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: would say between marsha and Lattimore and the Saints, maybe

688
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, just like you know, is

689
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Speaker 1: he's maybe been on the trade block, who knows. I

690
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: think he is just a perfect fit for the types

691
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Speaker 1: of players that Baltimore likes. And when I look at

692
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: this team, I don't think they have enough cornerbacks. I

693
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Speaker 1: don't think their secondary has played very well this year.

694
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Speaker 1: You saw they're coming together a little bit. But you

695
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: look at Marlin Humphrey just had a knee injury. He's

696
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: been banged up quite a bit over the last couple

697
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: of years, but he's usually more in the slot. Nate Wiggans,

698
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: their first round pick, has been hurt, sometimes not played great.

699
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Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens gets picked on. Marcus Williams, a former teammate

700
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Speaker 1: of marsha On Lattimore, has been struggling at safety. I

701
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Speaker 1: look at this roster and I think this is the

702
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. The one spot where I

703
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: think they could really use improving people throw out wide receivers,

704
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: and if they got Hopkins like that wouldn't shock me.

705
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: But their offense is so good and I think they

706
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Speaker 1: love shod Bateman that they might not really feel like

707
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: they need a receiver. Get me Marshawn Lattimore for a

708
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: premium pick. I actually think he could get a second, really, yeah,

709
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Speaker 1: because he's kind of like that. He's not Jalen Ramsey

710
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: when Jalen Ramsey got traded to the Dolphins. But he's

711
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: still got a few good years left in his prime,

712
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: and he's a premier cornerback when he's on the field.

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Speaker 2: And I think, if I'm remembering correctly, I might be misremembered,

714
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Speaker 2: but I think that was a third even Ramsey. Yeah,

715
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Speaker 2: so you certainly the comp.

716
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Speaker 1: But maybe it's a third that's a conditional second. Maybe

717
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: it's just a flat third. This would take the Saints

718
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: actually admitting to themselves that they're not contending, but maybe

719
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: one more loss or two more losses will help them

720
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Speaker 1: get a.

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Speaker 4: Lotimore could also go to Green Bay. I could see

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Speaker 4: that happening.

723
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Speaker 3: That would be good. Oh him and JayR Alexander.

724
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Speaker 2: Yeahs defense is coming alive over there. But I like

725
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Speaker 2: what you're saying because, and I think this applies to

726
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Speaker 2: the Packers too, because good teams who know they are

727
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: at this point of the year where they're arcing from

728
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: playoff probability, like they're probably a playoff team, but they

729
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: start arcing toward legitimate contention, into that final tier, into

730
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Speaker 2: that last window, and sometimes you need a player to

731
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Speaker 2: break through into that last window and stay there. And

732
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Speaker 2: I think when really, really really good teams understand we

733
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: are really really good, we can't know if next year,

734
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: the year after, this whole thing could fall apart for

735
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: a variety of reasons, injuries, whatever. You have to push

736
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: and you have to take these swings at this time.

737
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Speaker 2: We saw this a couple of years ago, adding superstars

738
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Speaker 2: to a roster already loaded with superstars, and that is

739
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Speaker 2: what gets you through the final levels of contention.

740
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Speaker 3: Now at what team are you talking about?

741
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Speaker 2: The Rams? But the Rams also were far less of

742
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: a complete team than the Ravens. I just think the

743
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Speaker 2: Ravens have an opportunity to become an arguable, inarguable Super

744
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Bowl team intrinsically ready for that moment because they keep

745
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: adding at the adding just here and there, bits and

746
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: pieces things you don't necessarily is not like the most

747
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: significantly glaring need on a team that is so good. Yes,

748
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: it is on a team of really good players. It

749
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: isn't still a need, but this team would probably be

750
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Speaker 2: fine and make a deep push without it. This is

751
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: not a team interested in just making a deep push.

752
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Speaker 3: This is the year.

753
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Speaker 1: How many year are they going to have where Derreck

754
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: Henry is? This is great, Maybe it'll be a couple,

755
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you can assume it and

756
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: that you're getting this level of play from Lamar Jackson.

757
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Speaker 3: I love me a little Marshall on Letimore. I'm going

758
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: to throw out another one.

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Speaker 1: I guess okay, the Dolphins trade for Bryce Young like

760
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: that one?

761
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Speaker 2: I like that one.

762
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Speaker 3: What do you think you would cost?

763
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go a conditional fifth really like that

764
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Speaker 1: moves to a fourth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think there's going to

766
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Speaker 3: be much of a mark.

767
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: You think Carolina would do that.

768
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Speaker 2: I think that there actually will be behind the scenes.

769
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Speaker 2: Maybe we won't see or catch wind of it publicly,

770
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: but I think behind the scenes we've talked about it.

771
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: I know I sound like I'm joking, I'm not. There

772
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: are a lot of teams in this league with offensive

773
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: minded head coaches and smart, bright, ascending coordinators who want

774
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: the reputation of the quarterback whisper who say I can

775
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: fix him.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's a conditional third, Like it's a fourth

777
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Speaker 1: that moves to a third if he's satisfied.

778
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: I think that requirement that sounds like the sweet spot

779
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: for me with Bryce Young, and I can remember Mike

780
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: McDaniel a couple years ago, is that this was last

781
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: year talking in such glowing tones about Bryce Young ahead

782
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: of this matchup, where he basically said all the same

783
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: things about Bryce Young that he wants said about Toua.

784
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: It's almost like if you could parse put those two interviews,

785
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: it or different words that Mike McDaniel uses about both

786
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: timing thrower accurate, gets the ball to playmakers in space,

787
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: understands the way that things have to disperse, understands how

788
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: certain motions that Carolina has never been has not run well,

789
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: the timing and the cadences that those require a point guard.

790
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Those types of things that he used to describe Tua

791
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: Tagovailoa a peer passer, like also, that's the Bryce Young, that's.

792
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Speaker 1: The route for Bryce Young to have a career. They've

793
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: shown that they need a backup quarterback, that Mike McDaniel

794
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: has failed the organization really with their plan for backup quarterback,

795
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: and it might sink this season. And yes, they have

796
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: to not feel as comfortable about Tua sure as they

797
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: did come into the season.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to need from you a list of offensive

799
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Speaker 4: coordinators that are in the quarterback whisperer competition. I think

800
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Speaker 4: that that segment ie very interesting.

801
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Quarterback whisper Island, Yes exactly. I'm gonna throw us down

802
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: the river from quarterback.

803
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Speaker 4: The Cowboys need to upgrade their skill position players, and

804
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're ready to admit that they

805
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: are kind of not as good as they thought they were,

806
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: or maybe they think they are. I thought maybe if

807
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: the Cardinals lost last night and fell to two and five,

808
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: that James Connor could be an option for them to

809
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: trade to Dallas, but that obviously didn't happen. What about

810
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: Travis etn After?

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Speaker 3: I love that.

812
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: I love that Bigsby is able to do and I

813
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: mean that offense flowed pretty well without Travis in there,

814
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: so why not.

815
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Speaker 3: I love that one.

816
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Speaker 1: I do wonder if they were gonna like try to

817
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: win this season. There's like a weird vibe to this

818
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys team that's almost like Jerry Jones is like, hey,

819
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you said you were a good coach. Mike McCarthy, just

820
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: like prove it to me. I'm not gonna like help

821
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: to upgrade your team at all, and if it doesn't work,

822
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: then it's your last year. So are they gonna try

823
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: to upgrade this team that hasn't looked great? Maybe if

824
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: they win Sunday night that's a big game with the

825
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, or maybe not. Jerry Jones had a

826
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Speaker 1: crazy quote today that I get to I want to

827
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Speaker 1: get to. He he did the radio station, the same one,

828
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Speaker 1: the same group. He came back because they do it

829
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: every week. He said that they were very lucky that

830
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: he and Steven Jones and Mike McCarthy comes on there,

831
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: and that he was surprised that that people made such

832
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: a big deal about it. He thought emotions are good,

833
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: and you didn't think it was that big of a deal.

834
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I was emotional, like you can be emotional.

835
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Speaker 2: Emotions plus power, Jerry is where the issue comes.

836
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: But he literally said in this interview that Mike McCarthy

837
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: was designing bad plays and bad concepts on offense.

838
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: He just sort of like slit it in.

839
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Speaker 1: I was like, no, like, like you know, McCarthy's not

840
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: designing bad plays in concepts right now.

841
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, oh god bye.

842
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 4: Then who's sees Warmer McCarthy or Dennis Allen?

843
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: I think Dennis Allen just because he'd be more likely

844
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: to lose his job mid season, but maybe not.

845
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Dennis Alleno blamed Clint Kubiak for calling a time out

846
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: when coordinators are not allowed to call it. I love

847
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: that so much, that same Dennis, are we talking about

848
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: the same.

849
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Also, just like like leadership, bro, now you could go

850
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: too far, Like Nick Sirianni now makes up that he's

851
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: at fault for it. He's just like he's like, no, actually,

852
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: I was the one that like had the wrong order

853
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: of the player introductions on Sunday and like Nick Siriot

854
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: is like, it's all my fault, like dump on me.

855
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like a like a king thing or

856
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: something like that. It's like, we know you didn't call

857
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: that defensive play, Nick, Like why are you trying to

858
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: take despair? Yeah, Dennis Allen is the flip side, just

859
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: like leadership.

860
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: No, it was his fault. It was he was embarrassed,

861
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: all right.

862
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Unless you guys have any hot ones, uh oh yeah,

863
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Dalvin tom just just some like lower tier ones. Dalvin

864
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: Tomlinson is one of the guys actually do think will

865
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: get traded who will help a team kind of a

866
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: run stuffer, can push the pocket a little bit. There's

867
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that could use defensive tackles, the Eagles,

868
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: the Bills, he could go back to the Vikings. I

869
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: listened to this show Purple Daily, and they were thrown

870
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Speaker 1: out this like give up two first round picks for

871
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence.

872
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: I don't think the Giants would give up.

873
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Speaker 5: He's like one of the best right now.

874
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: But.

875
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: Well you never know. I mean, if someone was willing.

876
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: To go, he's one of the best right now in

877
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Speaker 5: the entire league.

878
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: On a bad team still to me in Defensive Player

879
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: of the.

880
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: Year, yeah, exactly.

881
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: This was like the player I found, like the most

882
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: rosters you would put on the Seahawks would make sense,

883
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Like a lot of teams could use kind of a

884
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: good player.

885
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: Run Stuffer. Yeah, he's a good player.

886
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: But also there aren't many defensive tackle types and he

887
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: I think would totally be able the way.

888
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 5: That he can move at the size Dexter Lawrence.

889
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Sorry, I went back to Tomson. Yes, you're right about Lawrence. Yeah,

890
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: he's Defensive Player of the Year right now. Chris Jones

891
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: would be in the mix.

892
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Patzertain was up there when Brian Branch is making.

893
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 3: A case got hurt.

894
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's by the way, I texted you this. But

895
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: just for the record for the audience, you know, we're

896
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: adding Brian Branch to the cluster of safeties on the

897
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: guys who rule.

898
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: Okay, he rules, that's he rules. He most clearly rules.

899
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: There was that weird report that from ESPN that teams

900
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: were calling about Garrett Wilson, that that set up few

901
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: alarms that like, why opening that out there?

902
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

903
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: If they lost a couple of games, could Garrett Wilson

904
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: potentially be Tyreek Hill if they lost a couple of games.

905
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: Things are getting a little weird there.

906
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, Deontay Banks might not have a lot of

907
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: fans right now with the Giants, there's a bunch of Patriots.

908
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise, Jonathan Jones, Darius Slayton. I think it get traded.

909
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Chargers. He would make a

910
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: little sense to me. On the Chargers. Those are those

911
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: are some names. The trade deadline. They moved it back

912
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: a week, so we get a couple more weeks of conversation.

913
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Speaker 1: We're not not gonna do this each week. I thought

914
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: this was a good time to just kind of set

915
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: the table, all right.

916
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: I just feel like teams are still operating on the

917
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: same calendar as before, regardless of the move back a week,

918
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: because all these things are happen, right.

919
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 3: It's true.

920
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: But I do think like if teams are two and seven, like,

921
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: for instance, if the Rams are two and seven, that

922
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: does feel different than right now when they're two and five.

923
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, if if the Jaguars are two and seven,

924
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: maybe the GM who doesn't want to trade his number

925
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: one overall draft pick is literally not even there.

926
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: Like that.

927
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: But the teams that are on the bubble, like between

928
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: good maybe good bad, you don't know what they are yet,

929
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 4: Like those two weeks are crucial.

930
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: One week can feel so big in the NFL. I mean,

931
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: think about the Giants two weeks ago. They were coming

932
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: off of a pretty great win in Seattle.

933
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: Think about the Giants, they were coming off a great

934
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: win in Seattle. Daniel Zones looks good.

935
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: It's like here, this team's maybe pretty good for a

936
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: two and three or whatever team, and it's like, now

937
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: their season's over.

938
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 3: They stink. They go to Drew Lot.

939
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, all right, it's the time of

940
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: the show for our TNF preview presented by Amazon Prime Video.

941
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: But we've talked a lot of rams already on this show,

942
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: so let's talk a little Vikings Colleen. Okay, what strikes

943
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: your fancy about this game?

944
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: I don't love the Vikings traveling to la on a

945
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: short week after an emotional loss.

946
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: And a physical one, a very.

947
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: Physical one the Lions.

948
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: That was the best team that the Vikings have faced

949
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: all season long. Division game came down to the very end.

950
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: I just kind of think a hangover might be lingering

951
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: around on the short week. Also, the Lions are the

952
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: new Niners because no team has won a game the

953
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: week after playing the Lions. This year, we won the Rams.

954
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: They lost to the Cardinals in week two. Week two

955
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: they lost forty to.

956
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 5: The Bucks.

957
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: They lost to the Broncos in Week three and it

958
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: was twenty six to seven the Cardinals. They lost to

959
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: the Commanders in Week four forty two to fourteen.

960
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: Whoa the Seahawks.

961
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: They lost to the Giants in Week five twenty nine

962
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: to twenty. Then there was a bye week. So after

963
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: this it gets a little like the Cowboys. They got

964
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: a buy in Week seven, but we'll find out this

965
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 4: week when they play the Niners. And now week seven

966
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 4: the Vikings playing the Rams on TNF. So more than

967
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: half of those games the team went on to lose

968
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: and by a lot of points.

969
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it outlines how physical it is to play the Lions.

970
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: People talk about this and have since last year, really

971
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 2: that they're going to really take it to you and

972
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: you're going to be exhausted when you factor in the

973
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: short week. I do think that is an element to this.

974
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: And now there's a pattern and a trend that's starting

975
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: to I love a pattern. This trend and it's a

976
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: great fine by you two calling, because that does highlight

977
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, what it is like to have to recover

978
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: from playing a team like that. And the Vikings, who,

979
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: by the way, have Tyler Williams, who is the former

980
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: RAMS director of Sports Medicine and Sports Science in their

981
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 2: building now and the Rams got really hurt once he left.

982
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: This is going to be a huge test for him

983
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: and his group because this it's clear how physical these

984
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: that playing the Lions is and what toll it takes

985
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: on you as a team when you have to, especially

986
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: coming off short week and then coming to play another

987
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: game on turf as well.

988
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: I love that.

989
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: I love that theory because you know, my daughter is

990
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: a Rams fan. We're going to this game. It's our

991
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: one game of the year that we will be attending.

992
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I'll be doing the T andF recap. We're not going

993
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: to do it live on YouTube because I got to

994
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: get home from the game, but I'm going to be

995
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: doing it with JB. Long. Oh Rams great dude, And

996
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: so I'd like it to at least be competitive. I

997
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: don't want to see a blowout, and it certainly could

998
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: be because these teams haven't been even The Rams are

999
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: coming off a pretty disappointing game offensively against the Raiders.

1000
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: The defense got it done, but that's a banged up

1001
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: Raiders team. You worry about a couple of things. You

1002
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: worry about stopping Aaron Jones. I think that's where you

1003
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: start with this Vikings team, and where you start with

1004
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: this Rams defense. That the linebackers and the gaps, even

1005
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders were running pretty well against them, I think

1006
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: that could be a difficult matchup for the race.

1007
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: It's not just Aaron Jones on the ground. Teams have

1008
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: been able to run on this Rams front. They're still

1009
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: figuring some things out. Kobe Turner's back at nose tackle

1010
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: now to try to help shore things up a little bit,

1011
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: playing more snaps as well, and Aaron Jones in space

1012
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: as a receiver, which the Vikings have sort of trickled

1013
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: out a few times over the last few weeks. Also

1014
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: is a hillacious matchup for these inside linebackers, and they'll

1015
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: potentially be without Troy Reader, who is their green dot player,

1016
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: starting an inside linebacker, which will make fans happy if

1017
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: that is the case, because fans have been wanting to

1018
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: see Omar Spates, who's the undrafted free agent out of

1019
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: LSU who really shown in the preseason, and Sean McVay

1020
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: keeps saying things like, oh, well, the reason we're not

1021
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: playing him yet is because it's different. The defense is

1022
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: so different compared to what the preseason alignments were and

1023
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 2: picking that up and learning. But if you're thrown into

1024
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: the fire, that's the way that Puka Nakua started succeeding

1025
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: when you're thrown into that being said Aaron Jones, against

1026
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: these linebackers, whether it is downhill in the run game

1027
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: or whether it is in space as a pass catcher,

1028
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: that is something that I think will be a significant

1029
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: key to this game because Kevin O'Connell is quite familiar

1030
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: with those linebackers.

1031
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: And Kevin O'Connell said that Aaron Jones wasn't one hundred percent.

1032
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: He looked fine. The hamstring We just fine, like it

1033
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 4: was never in question. But that's something to watch. Also,

1034
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 4: you have a couple other injuries. The Vikings could get

1035
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 4: Dalton Reisner back on their offensive line, so he's likely

1036
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: to come off the ir this week, and then Blake Cashman,

1037
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: their linebacker, probably won't play. Also t J Hockinson, he

1038
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: could be activated from the ir this week. If he

1039
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: doesn't go on Thursday, then they would really need they

1040
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: would need to activate him life.

1041
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 5: I think he's done for.

1042
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I think he's playing in this game, just

1043
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: how he sounded, and they didn't maybe want to play

1044
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: him twice in five days, so they just so that's

1045
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: a big like as if this offense needed another edition,

1046
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: especially in this matchup.

1047
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: Regardless of the fact that the Lions ended up you know,

1048
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: twenty one point surge in the second quarter, ended up

1049
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: really exploiting areas of this defense, and even like Stefan

1050
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: Gilmore falling down at one point, Minnesota's defense still held

1051
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: one of the best offenses in the league scoreless in

1052
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: the first quarter. You guys, the Rams have not scored

1053
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: a touchdown in the first quarter in one single game

1054
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: so far this year. Most of their points are coming

1055
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: from Kyen Williams, who on the ground has a consecutive

1056
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown streak going from the start of the season.

1057
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: And they are not either. They're moving the ball extremely

1058
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: well and getting completely stalled in the red zone at

1059
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: almost the highest rate in the NFL. Or they are

1060
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: not moving the ball and not even getting to the

1061
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: red zone they've had a couple of turnovers. Matthew Stafford

1062
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: splits from the start of the season into the last

1063
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: two games have really taken a dive, a nose dive.

1064
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: And while they did okay relative to you know, past

1065
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: weeks against Max Crosby and the Raiders, at the pressure

1066
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: and I could see by the way Cooper cup being

1067
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: used similar to how Tim Patrick was being used by

1068
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: the lines to mitigate pressure. A lot of sweeps and

1069
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: blast motion, which is at snap motion to help basically

1070
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: block free pressure or free rushers at the snap versus

1071
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: showing that you're going to block them before the snap.

1072
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: I could see them using him like this because they

1073
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: need all the help they can stuff.

1074
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: Though.

1075
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: That's why Cooper Cuppa gets hurt in the first place,

1076
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: is he has such a physical role where he's really

1077
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: almost playing tight end and to ask him to do

1078
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: that right.

1079
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 4: Off, Yeah, And I want to if the defense can

1080
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: booy the offense until these wide receivers come back, because

1081
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 4: all of the twenty points that the Rams scored were

1082
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: off of turnovers.

1083
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: Well, my whole idea what the vikings was, you know,

1084
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: you're only going to beat him with a like a

1085
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: real adult quarterback that can understand coach that can understand

1086
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: these blitzes. Hey, you got one in Matthew Stafford.

1087
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: And that's why he went and got him. Let's not

1088
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: forget Brian Flores playing against his defense against Jared Goff

1089
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: was one of the defining one of a couple defining

1090
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: catalysts in Sean McVay making a push for Matthew Stafford.

1091
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: There is some irony to me that you need a

1092
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: in an adult big boy adjusting everything at the line

1093
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 2: of scrimmage game from your quarterback the way that Jared

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00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: Goff just played the Minnesota Vikings defense. You need that

1095
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: from Matthew Stafford, the tape of which they are watching

1096
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: as they prepare for Oh, that's so fun.

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Speaker 3: That is great.

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00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: And you need to be able to run the ball

1099
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: adam like like the Lions were able to. And the

1100
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: Rams have some weird splits where they're actually second in

1101
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: the NFL and success rate in terms of their running ability,

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00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: but overall, like not a lot of explosive plays, a

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00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: lot of just four or five yard games and a

1104
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of short drives, so not a lot of attempts.

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00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: They would be better if they could play with the

1106
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: lead because I think they're better in terms of their

1107
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: pass defense than their run defense. And I'm going to

1108
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: keep an eye Cutch. Just a couple of people a

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00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: watch in person that I'm looking forward to. First of all,

1110
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: you got to check out the Vikings kicker.

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00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: Will Ricard, I mean hasn't missed yet. He is the

1112
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: new Brandon Aubrey.

1113
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: He's ridiculous, and they're winning the rookie kicker battle here

1114
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: with Josh Cardy on the Rams having a pretty gross miss.

1115
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: What a heat of battle at the end of the

1116
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: This is.

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00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Something I care about. I mean, he might be an

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00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: all pro right now. Wild card is perfect. And I

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00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: had a take in Jared versus not including this. I'm

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00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna watch little jar adverse versus some really good tech

1121
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: want to have fun with you. He's a really, really

1122
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: good player for the Rams. But I had a take

1123
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: or I thought watching this Rams Raiders game was and

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00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: it was the first time in a long time. It's like,

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: are the Rams boring? Like the Rams have been a

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00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: lot of things under Sean McVay, but hasn't been one

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00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: of them, never boring, And like they're they're tilting a

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00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: little towards boring.

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00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: I would personally like to be a little more bored.

1130
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: Way I hear it, Well, today's not the day.

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00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

1132
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about strictly on Sundays on the field. It's

1133
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: hard to imagine Matthew Stafford team staying boring for long.

1134
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 5: But right now they're just yeah, you're gonna have a

1135
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 5: great time on Thirs.

1136
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: They're just kind of there. No, it's gonna be fun.

1137
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: They're just kind of there.

1138
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: That Raiders game was was was a snoozer.

1139
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get you can get Matthew Stafford off

1140
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: his spot and frazzled a little bit this season without

1141
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: blitzing him. We know Brian Flores loves to blitz. He

1142
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: also is just as comfortable rushing only three, rushing four,

1143
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: dropping everybody else back in coverage. I noticed it when

1144
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 2: I went back and watched tape of the Detroit Minnesota game.

1145
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: He's even like hiding coverage players behind a spying linebacker.

1146
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: You don't really know that that. You don't need that

1147
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: against Matthew Stafford because he doesn't move, but he's a

1148
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: versus the blitz. Matthew Stafford's thirty two for fifty three

1149
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: sixty two yards, touchdown interception, and has gotten pressured twenty

1150
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: six times. Six of those were sacks, and without the

1151
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: blitz he's thrown one hundred for one hundred and forty

1152
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: eight one thousand and thirty yards, two touchdowns, three interceptions,

1153
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: but forty five pressures and eleven of those were sax

1154
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: So obviously when you're blitzing, you're gonna have a higher

1155
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: sack percentage. But he's getting pressured a ton without extra

1156
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 2: pressure actually coming.

1157
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, why I even send it? So maybe this is

1158
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: a game where Brian Flores calls off the dogs a

1159
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: little bit and he.

1160
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: Has it takes these dbs guard these receivers. This This

1161
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: RAMS defensive backs unit has finally started getting some confidence.

1162
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Four takeaways this last game, and they reshuffled some players around.

1163
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: Greg Like we've been talking. I've been sending you like

1164
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: like a frantic messages.

1165
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: You gotta quentin la pop.

1166
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're going to have to guard such a

1167
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: wide assortment of receivers. If you bracket justin Jefferson, you're

1168
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: now going to have to count for Jalen Naylor again.

1169
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: The linebackers and the safeties at the.

1170
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Field, Aaron Jones, Connie convinced me, though, I got to

1171
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: say her opening argument about.

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00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: I love that stat playing after the Lions.

1173
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then going on the field, I mean, going

1174
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: down the road.

1175
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of.

1176
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: A letdown game. This is a big game for the Rams.

1177
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: Are at home.

1178
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: They've actually played other than the Cardinals game, which is

1179
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: not the best competition they've played, They've played competition, you know,

1180
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: very close this year. So I'm not going to pick

1181
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: them to win, but i will pick them to cover.

1182
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: Let's just go like a three point win for the Vikings.

1183
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Twenty seven, twenty four. It's a good time for the

1184
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: whole family.

1185
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm picking the Vikings, but I think it's going

1186
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: to be it's going to be close.

1187
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm picking the Vikings. I think this game is going

1188
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: to be weird.

1189
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: As okay, And who knows, maybe Cooper Cup's last game

1190
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: with the Rams.

1191
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

1192
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: Who knows, Maybe you'll be wearing a different uniform in

1193
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: forty eight hours by the time I'm at that game.

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Speaker 1: That was this week's TNF preview, presented by Prime Video.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to watch the Minnesota Vikings take on the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams this Thursday on Prime Video. Thank you

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Speaker 1: both for being here. Welcome and thank you everyone for

1198
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: watching NFL Daily Play it.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun one. We better get some trades.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I had fun. This was a good thought extra.

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Speaker 5: I hope some of these actually do come true.

1202
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: Okay, when Connie's getting sixteen hours of sleep and the

1203
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: Rams are hey, driving Jordan crazy, you know football is back.