WEBVTT - Stop Cop City, Dispatch from Weelaunee Summer: Part Three

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to It could Happen Here. I'm Garrison Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the last episode in my trilogy covering

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<v Speaker 1>what's been happening this summer in Atlanta to stop Cop City.

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<v Speaker 1>Last episode we covered the end of the Week of Action,

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<v Speaker 1>the resurgence of nighttime sabotage, and Atlas long Engineering dropping

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Cop City project. A relatively new, big

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of the movement that I've really only mentioned peripherally

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<v Speaker 1>is the Cop City vote referendum. The goal of the

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<v Speaker 1>referendum is to let the people of Atlanta vote on

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<v Speaker 1>whether to repeal an ordinance authorizing the land lease of

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and eighty one acres of forest into Cab

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<v Speaker 1>County that was given to the Atlanta Police Foundation in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one to use the land for the construction

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<v Speaker 1>of Cop City. In order to get the referendum on

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<v Speaker 1>an upcoming ballot, the petition had to gather sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>signatures in six days. Every signature must be from an

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta resident who was registered to vote in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and initially those who gathered signatures had to also be

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta residents. Sixty thousand signatures in sixty days was a

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<v Speaker 1>lofty goal, but volunteers around the city were being increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>mobilized during and after the week of action. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first few weeks of the referendum, the city stayed mostly quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>but then on the July fifth APD press conference, Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Dickens addressed the referendum.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor, some of these protesters and posters of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Center have biggun connecting signatures in the hope of having

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<v Speaker 2>a referendum, putting the November p Mu's your reaction to that?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your comment on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you allow them to do what they're doing right

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<v Speaker 1>now and possibly have in the referendum?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, the referendum process is one that's legally documented. It's

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<v Speaker 4>in the city code, and anybody can attempt to get

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<v Speaker 4>the petition going and get the necessary signatures. We asked

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<v Speaker 4>they do so with honesty and truth, collect the signatures

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<v Speaker 4>from real people, with sharing the truth about what they

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<v Speaker 4>are looking to do. And so I don't personally believe

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to be successful. I believe that based on

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<v Speaker 4>what we know about the citizens of Atlanta, they are

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<v Speaker 4>a supportive of the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center. We

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<v Speaker 4>know that this is going to be unsuccessful if it's

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<v Speaker 4>done honestly, and so we're making sure that we continue

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<v Speaker 4>to monitor the process.

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<v Speaker 1>This statement by the Democrat mayor of Atlanta, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think has been highlighted enough. The mayor is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>frame a successful referendum as a fraudulent one. Dickens is

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<v Speaker 1>priming propaganda channels and testing the waters for blatant election

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<v Speaker 1>fraud stile messaging in the future by very clearly insinuating

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<v Speaker 1>that if you win this, that means you're cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>The referendum kept popping up like throughout the Week of

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<v Speaker 2>Action without It wasn't tailing up space.

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<v Speaker 1>It was never never the focus. It was always just

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<v Speaker 1>like on the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it was everywhere, Like every I think every

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<v Speaker 2>event the referendum was in some way shape or form.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're like the Home Depot rally and people

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<v Speaker 2>walking by they were talking about the referendum and talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Week of Action collecting signatures.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not feel like it was taking space away

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<v Speaker 1>from any of the other aspects of the movement I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people were definitely worried about that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>people worried that the referendum might act as like a

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<v Speaker 1>release out for both the movement and like the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are like out of the movement and still like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at cop City being like, how can you get

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this thing? And you see this like very

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<v Speaker 1>like above for electoral strategy of slanning stuff like what

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<v Speaker 1>if people's efforts just get funneled into that and they

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<v Speaker 1>missed that on the other much more expensive aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the movement. One of the few more referendum focused events

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<v Speaker 1>during the Week of Action was a community town hall

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<v Speaker 1>discussion put on by the Hip Hop Caucus at the

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<v Speaker 1>gathering Spot on the evening of Friday, June thirtieth. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the panel discussion, myself and Matt from the Atlantic Community

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<v Speaker 1>Press Collective talked with two members of the Hip Hop

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<v Speaker 1>Caucus about the event and their hopes for the referendum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brandy Williams, an organizer with the Hip Hop Caccus.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Hip Hop Coccus is a national nonpart is

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<v Speaker 5>a nonprofit organization that uses hip hop culture to connect

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<v Speaker 5>people to the civic and political process. And essentially we

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<v Speaker 5>do that in four areas. We do that with I

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<v Speaker 5>think one hundred percent, Climbate and environmental justice work. We

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<v Speaker 5>were founded as a voting and democracy organization out of

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<v Speaker 5>the Voter Die movement, so we still do that work

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<v Speaker 5>under our respect my Vote platform. We also have our

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<v Speaker 5>Good Trouble civil and human rights work. It's our multiissue

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<v Speaker 5>platform and we look at it as the justice department

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<v Speaker 5>for hip hop, so we do it. We work on

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<v Speaker 5>everything from police reform to education and healthcare, and then

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<v Speaker 5>our justice Paid in Full, which is our economic justice platform,

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<v Speaker 5>So how do we achieve economic justice. We actually started

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<v Speaker 5>our activation like on the groundwork in La last week

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<v Speaker 5>during be et weekend, so we did a similar event

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<v Speaker 5>in La. We're doing this one here and we're planning

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<v Speaker 5>to be here in Atlanta and through the referendum and

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<v Speaker 5>through the election.

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<v Speaker 1>We also talked with Leonajaha Lone Wolf, an Atlanta resident

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<v Speaker 1>and national community organizer. Recently she had been working de

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<v Speaker 1>spread awareness across the country about what's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 6>Myself, hip Hop Quark is movement for Black Lives Until Freedom,

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<v Speaker 6>community movement builders. We all came up with this idea

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<v Speaker 6>to create this photo shoot campaign similar to Voter Die

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<v Speaker 6>or in anything you know, with these where you have

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<v Speaker 6>a nice shirt or a sticker and you're taking and

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<v Speaker 6>just being there in solidarity. So we did it during

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<v Speaker 6>La BT Awards weekend last weekend. We had a nice

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<v Speaker 6>turnout of folks that came. I was in LA for

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<v Speaker 6>the Hollywood Climate Summit. I spoke on the panel with

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<v Speaker 6>Jane Fonda, so there was a lot of people from

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<v Speaker 6>Hollywood that came and said, oh my god, that's what's

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<v Speaker 6>happening in Georgia. We have to be if we cannot

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<v Speaker 6>sign for on the referendum, but we stand with you

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<v Speaker 6>all because what we are also educating people at is

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<v Speaker 6>that if Cop City is built, they already having contracts

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<v Speaker 6>with police nationally to come here. This will be the

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<v Speaker 6>largest police training facility in the United States. I went

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<v Speaker 6>to Universal Studios, Hollywood, Universal Studios. Rollercoat says, its huge,

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<v Speaker 6>just nice. It's four hundred acres. That's fifty acres. Lest

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<v Speaker 6>will be Cop City. And then you know, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>that's an amusement park of nothing but real real gunfire,

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<v Speaker 6>real bombs, real real everything. It's not gonna be fake.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not amusement park in that way. But this is

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<v Speaker 6>their call of duty in real.

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<v Speaker 2>Life, and it's in the middle of a residential neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not here to protect and serve. They're here to

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<v Speaker 6>shoot to kill. And so police from all across this

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<v Speaker 6>nation will be coming here to Georgia for this militarized

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<v Speaker 6>police training and that's a problem for me. And the

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<v Speaker 6>turnout in California showed that that's a problem for them too.

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<v Speaker 6>So we had a lot of people that came for that,

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<v Speaker 6>and today we're doing the same thing and we're having

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<v Speaker 6>a community town hall discussion because I think there's a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people that don't understand why is cop city

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<v Speaker 6>because the mayor. I want to meet the mayor's publicists

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<v Speaker 6>because the way that this whole thing has been spinned

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<v Speaker 6>on his side that no, it would be great for

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<v Speaker 6>the EMT and the firefighters, and they're pushing EMT firefighters

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<v Speaker 6>more than the police part, but the police part is

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<v Speaker 6>a huge part. I think these type of conversations need

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<v Speaker 6>to be talked about, and so that's what this community

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<v Speaker 6>town hall is all about as well for those that

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<v Speaker 6>are kind of wavering neutral, maybe don't know, maybe they

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<v Speaker 6>know it a lot, you know, because the number one

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<v Speaker 6>thing that we've been like, I was on V one

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<v Speaker 6>O three yesterday on the radio station, and I also

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<v Speaker 6>have been doing a couple of other media and call ins,

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of people don't understand, like they a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people don't understand, like why is this a

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<v Speaker 6>bad thing? You know, you can move it somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 6>they say. But even if it's moved somewhere else, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>still gonna fight against cop city, you know, just because

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<v Speaker 6>I have this hits home for me too. Many of

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<v Speaker 6>my friends and family have been murdered by the hands

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<v Speaker 6>of radical power hungry, gun happy, trigger happy police officers.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel that there is and then also another

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<v Speaker 6>thing too, I there is answers, you know, in regards

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<v Speaker 6>to we don't need more police, we need resources. They

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<v Speaker 6>shut down our hospital, they shut down the shelters. It's

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<v Speaker 6>not like they don't know, right, Like we tell them,

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<v Speaker 6>we need more jobs, not just any job, good quality jobs.

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<v Speaker 6>We need pristine health, not just affordable healthcare. And then

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<v Speaker 6>most importantly, it just are unsheltered friends to see that

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<v Speaker 6>they put bulldozers. They, this administration, this this city continues.

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<v Speaker 4>To ignore.

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<v Speaker 6>Ignore the people. We have the hugest the biggest wealth

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<v Speaker 6>gap in the nation. They and they call it Wakanda,

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<v Speaker 6>the blackest City. But if this is how you treat

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<v Speaker 6>us our people, our people need resources. That's where this

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<v Speaker 6>sixty seven million dollars should be going. It should not

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<v Speaker 6>be going towards a more police. We don't need more

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<v Speaker 6>police because when you go to Cobb County, when you

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<v Speaker 6>go over to Alpharetta, they don't have a lot of police,

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<v Speaker 6>they don't have a lot of Why would they need

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of police because they already got the resources.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of the community town hall discussion, there were

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<v Speaker 1>a few other things to do at the event that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jaha talked about.

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<v Speaker 6>Stop Cop City photo campaign. One, you come and take

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<v Speaker 6>your photo and just showing that you stand in solidarity,

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<v Speaker 6>and then most importantly is to get some signatures.

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<v Speaker 1>As well throughout the referendum process. It's been interesting how

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<v Speaker 1>many people, even in Atlanta are just now learning about

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<v Speaker 1>cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you first hear about cop City?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly earlier this year, And.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a lot of the people that I am talking

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<v Speaker 5>to now, I was also kind of confused about the issue.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't really sure why, you know, they were so

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<v Speaker 5>opposed until I started learning a little more about what

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<v Speaker 5>actually was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>At this training facility.

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<v Speaker 5>So the idea of building a mini city with the

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<v Speaker 5>helicopter landing pad with a shooting range or a firing

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<v Speaker 5>range military grade in a community.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is not on the outskirts.

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<v Speaker 5>This is in a community, and then in a community

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<v Speaker 5>of color, and you're bringing police from around the country

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<v Speaker 5>in to learn military tactics, tactics that we use in

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<v Speaker 5>foreign countries to protect citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>We should not be thinking about our.

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<v Speaker 5>Citizens, our residents, as people who need to be protected

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<v Speaker 5>from themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>If that, if I'm making sense, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's sort of like enemy combatants in your own.

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<v Speaker 5>In your on backyard, but you're training them up in

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<v Speaker 5>a black community. So I can only imagine that some

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<v Speaker 5>of that many cities is going to spill over into

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<v Speaker 5>the communities.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you're bringing.

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<v Speaker 5>Police officers from around the country here, so they're taking

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<v Speaker 5>that back.

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<v Speaker 1>The specific community where the Atlanta Police Foundation is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build a cop city has already been traumatized by

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<v Speaker 1>the violence of the States for hundreds of years. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole area was violently stolen from Muscogee Creek, then

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<v Speaker 1>it became a slave plantation, and then part of it

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<v Speaker 1>was sold to the city of Atlanta, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>became a prison firm. Since then, the land has been

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<v Speaker 1>home to two landfills and three detention facilities. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the history of just this neighborhood for the last few

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years. Now, the carstor of violence inflicted on this land,

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<v Speaker 1>it's attempting to be exported, as police will soon come

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<v Speaker 1>from around the country and even the world to train

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<v Speaker 1>at copp City.

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<v Speaker 5>No one wants it in their community, but you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to continue to burden this particular community with the same

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<v Speaker 5>thing over and over and over again. The people of

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<v Speaker 5>that community for generations have experienced all kinds of harm

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<v Speaker 5>at the hands of the people that they supposedly are

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<v Speaker 5>electing to represent and protect them from these types of.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, and they're actually the ones doing it to them.

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<v Speaker 5>You were elected by people to represent them, and they've

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<v Speaker 5>told you for two years, we don't want this.

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<v Speaker 3>You are ignoring their voice.

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<v Speaker 1>On the day of the Hip Hopcoccus Panel, an air

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<v Speaker 1>quality alert was issued due to incoming smoke from wildfires

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<v Speaker 1>up north in Atlanta. The AQI reached one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty the ocean.

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<v Speaker 6>These fish, these birds, they're screaming at us right now.

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<v Speaker 6>What we are doing to Mother Earth right now is

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<v Speaker 6>we are from cutting down the trees, fossil fuels, everything,

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<v Speaker 6>this is, this is, and especially this being the lungs

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<v Speaker 6>of Atlanta. Today, I'm wearing my mask because on my

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<v Speaker 6>weather advisory it said it said the air quality is

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<v Speaker 6>not good today for sensitive people. And that is just

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<v Speaker 6>with the trees. And they keep on cutting down these trees.

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<v Speaker 6>I moved here because of the trees. I'm from Arizona,

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<v Speaker 6>so I needed trees. That was nothing but desert. But

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<v Speaker 6>I moved here because of these trees because I love

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<v Speaker 6>the life force that trees give us. Even when we

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<v Speaker 6>see a tree, the Earth is talking back to us, saying,

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<v Speaker 6>stop doing what you're doing. The dolphins, the orcas, the wells,

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<v Speaker 6>they're all migrant. They're like, you're you're the ocean is

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<v Speaker 6>hot right now, the so they are. They're yelling at us,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're not listening. And and as a native in

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<v Speaker 6>my native way, our elders, our chiefs have said that

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<v Speaker 6>we plan for seven generations from now. I am a

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<v Speaker 6>mother of two sons, and what this administration is doing

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<v Speaker 6>and what these corporations are doing, they're not looking at

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<v Speaker 6>seven generations from now they're not looking at how this

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<v Speaker 6>is gonna affect us on the long run. And and

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<v Speaker 6>and I love the fact of everyone that is standing

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<v Speaker 6>firm and saying stop cop City, because we see the vision.

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<v Speaker 6>We know what this, this Uchi Marca, this mother Earth

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<v Speaker 6>is going to look like seven generations from now. And

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<v Speaker 6>we're fighting to our death because the fact that we

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<v Speaker 6>want to make sure that our children's children's children's children

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<v Speaker 6>could still live here and be in a peaceful, safe

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<v Speaker 6>place and environment to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Since being elected as the Progressive candidate in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been an ever growing animosity towards Mayor Dickens from

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<v Speaker 1>all of his unfulfilled promises. When talking with you Najaha,

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<v Speaker 1>she expressed that she felt disappointed that herself and this

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<v Speaker 1>big block of people helped Andre get elected. And now

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Dickens is fully committed to the cop City project

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<v Speaker 1>and is even having conversations with other black leaders in

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<v Speaker 1>the city to bring them on board and prevent them

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<v Speaker 1>from opposing Cop City.

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<v Speaker 6>The mayor is in his position because of the blood,

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<v Speaker 6>sweat and tears and arrest and beat ups that we

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<v Speaker 6>got during Freedom Summer twenty twenty. He used the social justice,

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<v Speaker 6>the civil rights organizations and activists voices to get him

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<v Speaker 6>in the position that he used them and say, y'all

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<v Speaker 6>help me. I'm gonna be there for you all. And

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<v Speaker 6>it's all a slap in the face. So I don't

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<v Speaker 6>like hypocrisy. And I see I see hypocrites all throughout

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<v Speaker 6>this and on the on this administration side, from the

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<v Speaker 6>governor all the way down, even when we try to

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<v Speaker 6>help our unsheltered friends. In December, when it was so

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<v Speaker 6>cold out here, I went on social media. I raised

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<v Speaker 6>five thousand dollars in two hours. I went and went,

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<v Speaker 6>Me and my friends went and got them all tents, tents,

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<v Speaker 6>sleeping bags, everything. The mayor called my comrade. Mayor Andre

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<v Speaker 6>called my comrade and was all like, why are you

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<v Speaker 6>saying that they don't have no heating stations? And I

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<v Speaker 6>set up a heating station. Not everyone wants to go there,

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<v Speaker 6>because so is there? Where is your mental health services?

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<v Speaker 6>What's the transitioning team that you should have on the

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<v Speaker 6>ground to helped transition them. Don't just open up a

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<v Speaker 6>temporary heating shelter. Where's a transition team to go and

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<v Speaker 6>talk to the people of saying, hey, let me walk

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<v Speaker 6>you in to go get heated. There was none of that.

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<v Speaker 6>You're just expecting people to just go in there or

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<v Speaker 6>they knew where.

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<v Speaker 4>It was at.

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<v Speaker 6>So we went to the cab. We went to the cab,

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<v Speaker 6>and we also went down to Atlanta. We gave them tents.

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<v Speaker 6>The police went down there. The Atlanta Pede went down

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<v Speaker 6>there and put holes all in their tents. They slight

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<v Speaker 6>They used a knife and put and sliced their tents

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<v Speaker 6>open so it wouldn't they couldn't even stay in it. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>while it was still below freezing. This is all under

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<v Speaker 6>the administration of Mayor Andre. So no, we can't trust

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<v Speaker 6>We can't trust them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel betrayed by Andre?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, because I voted for him. I voted for him.

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<v Speaker 6>I voted for him because I think I voted for

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<v Speaker 6>him like every other person voted for vote for someone.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that their care is? They talk an amazing game.

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<v Speaker 6>And on top of it, my friends that were close

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<v Speaker 6>with him voted for him. My friends in the movement activists,

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<v Speaker 6>people that I look up to from as mentorship. They said, man, Andre,

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<v Speaker 6>He's gonna have fund a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Leonajaha spoke about how Mayor Dickens worked to build mutually

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<v Speaker 1>beneficial relationships between the city and non governmental quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>progressive organizations. So while some NGOs have received money from

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<v Speaker 1>the city, now many of these big quote unquote civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights orgs are scared of jeopardizing potential funding and are

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<v Speaker 1>now currently refusing to speak out against cop City.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. When I talk so the same people that have

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<v Speaker 6>spoken to Andre are the same people. I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 6>don't you involved, you know, And they're just like, I

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<v Speaker 6>think it's gonna be built, and at least I'm at

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<v Speaker 6>the table. A lot of them think that way. They

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<v Speaker 6>was like, I was there at the beginning fighting. I

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<v Speaker 6>had to sit down with the mayor. I believe this

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<v Speaker 6>is gonna be built. So since this is gonna be built,

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<v Speaker 6>let me figure out at least I'm at the table

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<v Speaker 6>in the community and there's community engagement. At least there's

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<v Speaker 6>some type of bridging happening. That's their angle. Anyone that

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<v Speaker 6>said black Lives Matter was on the front line with

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<v Speaker 6>us in twenty twenty, that is that was horrified by

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<v Speaker 6>the videos that they saw. This we are at prime time,

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<v Speaker 6>this is the epicenter of police terrorism being built. This

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<v Speaker 6>is it, this is this is it. This is not

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<v Speaker 6>each individual. We're trying to prevent more families, because if

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<v Speaker 6>they build this, it's gonna be a lot more families

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<v Speaker 6>that's gonna be crying and saying, they killed my baby.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're at the epicenter of a cop city and

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<v Speaker 6>you are silent. You're silent, but you was there for

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<v Speaker 6>the families. You was there posting black lives matter. You

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<v Speaker 6>was there saying stop police terrorism. But they're building a

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<v Speaker 6>they're building a terrorist headquarters, and you don't have nothing

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<v Speaker 6>to say. You're a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite, period, point blank.

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<v Speaker 1>Brandy also talked about the hypocrisy of pushing forward cup

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<v Speaker 1>City after the George Floyd uprising in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, three years ago, just in May, all these

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<v Speaker 5>companies were sending out these emails saying that black lives matter.

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<v Speaker 5>After George Floyd. They were pouring money into the community

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<v Speaker 5>to show their support for black lives. But some of

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<v Speaker 5>those same communities Home Depot, Coca Cola, Delta Airlines, waffle House.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are I'm sure sent those emails out, and

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<v Speaker 5>now you're putting money into something that does not respect

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<v Speaker 5>black lives. So I think there's just this huge contradiction

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<v Speaker 5>in who these companies say they are how they're showing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the growing propaganda battle over cop City is

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt to frame this state of the arched militarized

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<v Speaker 1>police training facility as a quote unquote public safety training center,

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<v Speaker 1>embodying the call for police reform that liberals protested for

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. Not only does this erase the abolitionist

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<v Speaker 1>corps of the twenty twenty uprising, but it also obfuscates

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that cop City is indeed a direct response

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty, not in terms of police reform, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the aftermath of the neoliberal police state being under

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<v Speaker 1>genuine threat. Corporate America and police have made this pact

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain each other's legitimacy, as one cannot survive without

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<v Speaker 1>the other. Cop City is to ensure that what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty will never happen again. After the clear

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<v Speaker 1>cutting of around eighty acres to the Wahlani Forest, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been more of a focus on the stop Coop City

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<v Speaker 1>wing of the movement than defend the forest. Sure, there

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<v Speaker 1>are still three hundred acres to defend and eighty acres

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<v Speaker 1>to restore. But as construction is getting more imminent, the

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<v Speaker 1>specific cop city focus has taken center stage in messaging.

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<v Speaker 5>When it was initially talked about, it was all about

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<v Speaker 5>the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>They're tearing down the.

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<v Speaker 5>Forest and as marginalized poor people. If I am hearing that,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not seeing it as important. I'm trying to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out how much pay my rent, how much my kids,

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<v Speaker 5>how i'm i pay my bills, how I'm getting to

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<v Speaker 5>and from work, and so those things I think made

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<v Speaker 5>it difficult to break into the household of people who

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<v Speaker 5>really need to be paying attention, and I would dare

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<v Speaker 5>to say even the people in the community. I watched

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<v Speaker 5>some of the testimony from the city council meeting several

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<v Speaker 5>weeks ago. In the the state representative that spoke first

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<v Speaker 5>talked about how the church right next door to the

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<v Speaker 5>facility didn't even know what was happening next door to them.

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<v Speaker 5>So for the city of Atlanta to say, oh, we've

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<v Speaker 5>done outreach people in the community, no, that's not true, right,

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<v Speaker 5>But part of that is the way that the narrative

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<v Speaker 5>has started.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think they were like, Okay, that ain't got

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with me.

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<v Speaker 5>And then also the fact that the faces that they

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<v Speaker 5>saw on TV, it was they're thinking, this is a

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<v Speaker 5>white led, white organization, white problem, it's not our problem,

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<v Speaker 5>so they haven't engaged. So I think those are all

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<v Speaker 5>things that we have to consider that and let people

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<v Speaker 5>know this is a diverse problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It impacts everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to impact people of color and poor and

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<v Speaker 5>marginalized communities more than anybody else, just because of the

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<v Speaker 5>nature of how policing is done in America and so.

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<v Speaker 3>And the and the problems that we still have with that.

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<v Speaker 5>So our program is from Red Dogs to cop City,

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<v Speaker 5>the Dirty South history of over policing Atlanta. So helping

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 5>them understand how this is just new iteration of what's

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<v Speaker 5>been happening. So the Red Dog Unit was at some

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<v Speaker 5>call it a gang within Atlanta PD for many years.

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<v Speaker 5>It was disbanded in twenty eleven, but they were terrorizing

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<v Speaker 5>low poor communities of color, and so cop City in

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<v Speaker 5>the way that they're thinking about training these officers.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be just a new iteration of that.

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<v Speaker 5>So helping them understand that just because we have come

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<v Speaker 5>far with the civil rights, with our civil rights and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not even talking specifically about the sixties movement, but

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<v Speaker 5>civil rights for people of color, women, LGBTQIA plus communities.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because we've come far doesn't mean it can't go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's Red Dogs inspired the Scorpion Unit in Memphis that

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<v Speaker 1>killed Tyree Nichols this past January, and the current iteration

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<v Speaker 1>of the Red Dogs in Atlanta is the Apex Unit,

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<v Speaker 1>who have been very active in suppressing stop Cop City protests.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to play three brief clips from the panel discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is from Mariah Parker, a local activist and

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<v Speaker 1>former Georgia County commissioner.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a war on the Uprising of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, this is in the aftermath of the largest uprisings.

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<v Speaker 5>In North America.

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<v Speaker 7>The Atlanta Police Foundation, who is the main driver and

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<v Speaker 7>the main funder and actually the owner of Cross City.

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<v Speaker 7>I keep forgetting the fact that this is not actually

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<v Speaker 7>going to go bust. The Limp Police Foundation trying to

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<v Speaker 7>rehas certain their control over Black communities at a time

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<v Speaker 7>when people are starting to understand that communities are made

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<v Speaker 7>safe for bi bordable housing and healthcare, child.

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<v Speaker 5>Care and edger.

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<v Speaker 7>And where their supremacy in the public safety apparatus has

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<v Speaker 7>been challenged, their dominance has been challenged, and so in

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<v Speaker 7>response to that uprising, they seized hold of the narrative

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<v Speaker 7>that more police training, more diversity in our officers would

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<v Speaker 7>be the magic key to heal all the wounds in

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<v Speaker 7>our communities and to actually deliver a style of police

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<v Speaker 7>thing that serves some people. And so with that they

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<v Speaker 7>were able to make arguments that cop city would be

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<v Speaker 7>the answer to right allegedly rising crime rates, heal at

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<v Speaker 7>these divides, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day, they it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Like it's a form of counterinsurgency. The people rose up,

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<v Speaker 7>and so this is the police right.

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<v Speaker 3>For that one response to reassert their dominance.

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<v Speaker 1>Next is kJ Henson, an Atlanta local and organizer with

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<v Speaker 1>Black Men Build and Blackmail Initiative Georgia.

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<v Speaker 8>We're clear that the police are not our protectors.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 9>We suffer at the hands of the system on a

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<v Speaker 9>daily basis. Right, the system was built upon our backs literally, So.

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<v Speaker 3>We see that we've been discarded, we've been.

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<v Speaker 4>Abused by the system. And that's the point.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not that we're disengaged because we don't care. We're

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<v Speaker 8>disengaged because we do care right. Every election cycle, it's

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<v Speaker 8>black voters to the rescue. We're the folks that are

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<v Speaker 8>most impacted by the decisions of the same elected officials

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<v Speaker 8>that beg us to put them in a position.

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<v Speaker 3>We suffer because these people will.

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<v Speaker 8>Come to us and beg for votes, for canvassers, for money, and.

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<v Speaker 9>They turn around and they sell us out the first

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<v Speaker 9>chance they need.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's we're dis engaged of a matter of I

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<v Speaker 8>can't get what I need from these people that say.

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<v Speaker 4>That they're for me.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, the very means of the people are at risk.

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<v Speaker 8>Cop city threatens are very right to protest. Right, cop

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<v Speaker 8>city threat is the right.

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<v Speaker 9>For us to stand in the street and use our

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<v Speaker 9>voice as a means of building collective.

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<v Speaker 8>Power, as a vehicle for making societal change. You can

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<v Speaker 8>come a domestic terrorist, you get jail, without bed, without bond,

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<v Speaker 8>you won't have a courtin I've been there myself, not

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<v Speaker 8>for testic terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just been from Corda.

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<v Speaker 9>So we're seeing the rise of fascism in a very

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<v Speaker 9>real way.

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<v Speaker 8>Like in the realistic ways cop City, like you said,

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<v Speaker 8>it is ground zero for what would become a very

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<v Speaker 8>popular trend.

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<v Speaker 7>Not this in America, but.

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<v Speaker 8>Across the world right, So it's on us to make

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<v Speaker 8>sure that we do everything that's.

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<v Speaker 6>In our power to make sure that this.

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<v Speaker 7>Day is stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Cop City is.

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<v Speaker 9>Given police the training and the ability to have urban

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<v Speaker 9>warfare and suppression tactics at their will to be used

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<v Speaker 9>against the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Urban warfare and suppression.

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<v Speaker 8>Not like thy not unlike what we see in other countries,

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<v Speaker 8>in other cities with organized resistance everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, we have Reverend Keana Jones, member of the Faith

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<v Speaker 1>Coalition to Stop Cop City, whom we've heard from on

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<v Speaker 1>this show before.

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<v Speaker 10>I want every Black Atlanta to think about what you

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<v Speaker 10>don't have. If you don't have affordable housing, it's because

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<v Speaker 10>they put the money in the cop CIT. If you

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<v Speaker 10>can't pay your life bill, it's because that assistance got

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<v Speaker 10>given back to the federal government.

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<v Speaker 3>What they're paying for cop CIT.

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<v Speaker 10>If there are no policing alternatives and no urgent initiatives

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<v Speaker 10>in your community, is that they've given the money and

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<v Speaker 10>hop sick. If you fell into that pot hole on Passilion,

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<v Speaker 10>it's because they.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it the money to pop C.

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<v Speaker 10>If you can't walk out of your door and brief

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<v Speaker 10>clean air, it's because they rather get it to top C.

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<v Speaker 10>So Andrea Hickins does.

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<v Speaker 3>Not care about black people.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna do a Kanye West right now, but I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 10>are Gibbons.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't care about black people?

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<v Speaker 10>And Andrea Nickens ain't no different than nobody else, and

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<v Speaker 10>some of those other consul people out there who have

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<v Speaker 10>no soul called legacy names ain't doing nothing for black people. So,

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<v Speaker 10>once again, what is Andre Niggins doing for you? If

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<v Speaker 10>he is willing to take police and make sure that

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<v Speaker 10>they got slot takes to roll around in they walking

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<v Speaker 10>around the ars in your neighborhood, your children walking out

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<v Speaker 10>the house to hearing gunshots constantly, what do Andre Niggins

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<v Speaker 10>care about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Does his children hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it is important to mention the venue that that

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>this was, that this panel took place in, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a very much like a it feels it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a Black Excellence type of like space. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that is the space that it is. It's it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a private club. It holds like an amount

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<v Speaker 1>of like respect.

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<v Speaker 2>There cultural significance.

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<v Speaker 1>And on this panel at the gathering spot, the panelists

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<v Speaker 1>were We're talking about how why why is the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>who meant many of these people helped get elected because

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<v Speaker 1>he had promises about, you know, helping out the community,

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<v Speaker 1>giving millions of dollars to affordable housing. Why is he

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<v Speaker 1>using now, like sixty seventy million dollars that could go

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<v Speaker 1>to affordable housing, that could go towards supporting black people

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta? Is funneling all of that money into the

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<v Speaker 1>police and and into not even like the police department,

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<v Speaker 1>a private police foundation, like funding funding the APFS project,

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<v Speaker 1>not a city project. I think it was Keana who

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<v Speaker 1>said that Andre Dickens does not care about black people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and having that be said at the gathering spot, I

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<v Speaker 1>think actually is very important and is worth talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>As the referendum was progressing and people from across all

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the movement, we're working in conjunction just spread

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<v Speaker 1>awareness of Copcity and engage in action. The mayor was

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<v Speaker 1>making attempts to divide the movement.

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<v Speaker 4>Criminals are hiding in the middle of peaceful protests and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes they are doing their own separate acts of violence.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of them are career arsonists and vandals from across

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<v Speaker 4>the nation. Local activists have been alerted to this numerous times.

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<v Speaker 4>These are the actions of blatantly outrageous, dangerous, and violent criminals.

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<v Speaker 4>How are arsonists, vandals, violent actors able to be alongside

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 4>peaceful protesters. You have individuals that will burn up construction equipment,

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<v Speaker 4>light a fire to police vehicles, and then have a

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<v Speaker 4>bouncy house party the next day with peaceful protesters at

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<v Speaker 4>a park. So they will go to a park by day,

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 4>and then by night they're burning up police equipment or

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<v Speaker 4>setting fires or trying to destroy construction equipment. So these

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<v Speaker 4>individuals are trying to use the guys of peaceful protests

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe some local Atlantans may actually be engaged in

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<v Speaker 4>a desired conversation about their views on public safety. But

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<v Speaker 4>these individuals have different views than those folks. These individuals

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<v Speaker 4>are anarchists. They want to destroy. So these individuals are

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<v Speaker 4>alongside these arsonists, these criminals are alongside peaceful protesters, and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes the peaceful protesters are aware of it, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>they are not. We have made it clear to local

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 4>activists that we know and individuals that tend to be peaceful.

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<v Speaker 4>We're letting them know that we are aware that there

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<v Speaker 4>are individuals that are in our city that have committed

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<v Speaker 4>crimes across the nation and that they are on your

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<v Speaker 4>social media or in your network saying they're coming to

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<v Speaker 4>your event to do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Dickens went further and essentially threatened that if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a so called activist and you don't snitch, then

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the APD will treat you the same as a violent criminal.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we give you that heads up as a

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 4>local organizer, you should take that heads up and also

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<v Speaker 4>see something, say something, as we're asking any other citizen

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<v Speaker 4>to do. When peaceful protesters, when organizers are not utilizing

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<v Speaker 4>their best judgment, then bad things can happen with them

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<v Speaker 4>being alongside them, and it makes it real tough for

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<v Speaker 4>APD to know who was the one with the dirty hands,

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<v Speaker 4>so to speak. And so that's what the message that

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<v Speaker 4>we want to get out to the public is that

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<v Speaker 4>these individuals mean harm and you don't want to be

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 4>around them or associated with them. When you are, it

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<v Speaker 4>makes it difficult to tell who.

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<v Speaker 1>The city wants. The various wings of the fight to

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<v Speaker 1>stop cop City to turn on each other, to resent

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>each other, to so distrust and undermine any collective power.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the referendum's Statement of solidarity explicitly rejecting respectability

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<v Speaker 1>politics and the framing of violent and nonviolent resistance was

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<v Speaker 1>so important. An online communicate claiming responsibility for torching police

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<v Speaker 1>motorcycles on the last day of the Week of action

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<v Speaker 1>addressed this dynamic quote. We took action after non combative

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>demonstrations at Cadence Bank and Home Depot. The police attacked

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>those demonstrations with no cause, as they do wherever and

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<v Speaker 1>however the movement gathers. There can be no separation of

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<v Speaker 1>time and space for tactics when police have turned society

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<v Speaker 1>into a war zone. Despite this, we dispersed our activity

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible across their area of control. We

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<v Speaker 1>encourage those who are pursuing a strategy of referendum to

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<v Speaker 1>continue supporting all methods to stop cop City. If you

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<v Speaker 1>defy the state's unilateral authority in any way, you will

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<v Speaker 1>be seen as a valid target. As demonstrated throughout the

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>history of this movement, including during this last Week of action,

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>police will treat you like a violent criminal, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>holding a sign in a parking lot, bailing activists out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail, or smashing a cop car. On July sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>a group of activists in unincorporated Decab County near the

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<v Speaker 1>potential site of cop City, filed a lawsuit against the

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<v Speaker 1>City of Atlanta and the State of Georgia, claiming the

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<v Speaker 1>requirement that signature gatherers must themselves be Atlanta residents violated

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<v Speaker 1>their First Amendment right to free speech and petition the

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>government due to the potential constitutional violation, the lawsuit also

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<v Speaker 1>requested the court reset the sixty day clock for gathering

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>signatures while still counting the signatures that were already gathered.

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<v Speaker 1>In mid July, the City of Atlanta filed a reply

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<v Speaker 1>in federal court arguing that the cop City referendum was

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<v Speaker 1>wholly invalid since it seeks to provoke a land lease

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<v Speaker 1>that has already been signed. The filing reads, in part, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>repeal of a year's old ordinance cannot retroactively revoke authorization

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<v Speaker 1>to do something that has already been done. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the referendum could claim to result in a revocation or

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>cancelation of the lease, it would still be invalid because

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<v Speaker 1>it would amount to an imformissible impairment of that contract unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>The city also argued that if the court does deem

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta residency requirement for gathering signatures unconstitutional, then the

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>entire referendum should be deemed unlaw. A rebuttal by the

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<v Speaker 1>plaintiffs said that the city did not provide factual or

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>legal evidence for its claims and misread the cited precedence.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the plaintiffs, the land lease contract is ongoing,

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<v Speaker 1>not an irreversible quote unquote one time event, and since

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the city authorized and issued the petition form, they skipped

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>their chance to argue that the referendum is somehow invalid

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>by already approving the language of the petition and letting

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<v Speaker 1>the referendum process begin. Near the end of July, US

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<v Speaker 1>District Court Judge Mark Cohen ruled in favor of the

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<v Speaker 1>cop city referendum, allowing non Atlanta residents to collect signatures

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<v Speaker 1>and reset the sixty day clock to collect the roughly

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>sixty thousand signatures needed to put the land lease on

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the ballot. In his ruling, Judge Mark Cohen said, quote

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<v Speaker 1>requiring signature gatherers to be residents of the city imposes

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<v Speaker 1>a severe burden on core political speech and does little

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the city's interest in self governance unquote. Mary Hooks,

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<v Speaker 1>the tactical lead of the referendum coalition, reacted to the ruling, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we are thrilled by Judge Cohen's ruling and the expansion

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of democracy to include our cab neighbors and level the

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>playing field for our coalition unquote. The city quickly filed

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>for an appeal, which was subsequently denied on August fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>with the judge stating quote, the city's real concern may

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<v Speaker 1>be that now that non residents have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>gather signatures on the petition for the entire time that

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>they would have been permitted to do so had their

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>initial request been granted, there is an increased possibility that

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>a sufficient number of valid signatures could be obtained unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>As liberals cheered on the Fulton County District Attorney in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta for indicting Trump and co conspirators for election tampering

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>under reco charges, the same exact sort of charges that

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>this office has used against young black rappers and have

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.479
<v Speaker 1>been wielded against the Stop Cop City movement, the City

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta's own election interference by repressing the referendum has

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>been largely ignored. Fulton County court set Trump's bond for

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars for attempting to overthrow a federal election.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>The same court set bond at three hundred and fifty

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars each for multiple protesters arrested for being

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>merely present at a protest. After Georgia State Patrol killed

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>force defender Torteguita in January of this year, during all

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of the glowing press for District Attorney Fannie Willis and

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the City of Atlanta, it was revealed that on August eleventh,

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Police Department killed a sixty two year old,

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>unarmed black man named Johnny Holman while responding to a

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:53.720
<v Speaker 1>minor traffic accident. Both Holman and the unnamed second driver

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>called nine one one after the accident. Holman told nine

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>one one operators quote, somebody ran into truck after waiting

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for over an hour for police to arrive. Twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>year old officer Kiaran Kimbro responded to the scene. Kimbro

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<v Speaker 1>joined APD in March of twenty twenty one and currently

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<v Speaker 1>as an open complaint for quote sexual misconduct non criminal unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Holman, who served as a deacon in his church,

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<v Speaker 1>called his kids to listen to how the officer was

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>escalating the situation, and then an unknown witness helped this

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>APD officer wrestle sixty two year old Johnny Holman to

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the ground and put him in handcuffs as the officer

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<v Speaker 1>used his taser. To quote the Atlantic Community Press Collective quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the children listened for seventeen minutes as they drove to

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<v Speaker 1>the scene of the accident, hearing their father call for

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>help after officer kimbro tased him. When they arrived on scene,

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<v Speaker 1>they found officers giving chrest compressions to their father. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Holman was then pronounced dead at Grady Hospital. A

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<v Speaker 1>week after APD killed Holman, another person incarcerated at Fulton

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 1>County Jail died while being held on five thousand dollars

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>bond after being denied signature bond for shoplifting less than

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars of goods. The City of Atlanta's own

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 1>alleged voter suppression has continued. Initially, the cop City vote

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>referendum hoped to not have to use the extra day

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>is granted by the judge and submit the collected signatures

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>on August twenty first, with the intention of getting them

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>verified in time to put the cop City vote on

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the upcoming November ballot come Monday, August twenty first, the

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>referendum put out a statement that, despite collecting over one

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand signatures, that they are delaying submitting the petition

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>due to concerns that the city was going to employ

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>voter suppression tactics during the validation process. The statement reads,

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in part quote, In recent days, we began to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from reporters and sources inside city Hall that the City

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta is planning to argue for a higher than

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>previously reported legal minimum signature count for ballot access. More

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>concerning were reports that they also planned to utilize signature

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>match in their verification process, an archaic and widely abandoned

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>tool of voter suppression that has been widely condemned across

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the political spectrum, including by the Republican controlled Georgia State legislator.

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<v Speaker 1>Signature matching is a subjective form of a vote validation

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>which uses election workers to visually match signatures on a

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>ballot or in this case of petition, to a previous

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>signature on their driver's license or voter registration card. Hours

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<v Speaker 1>after the referendum's statement, the City of Atlanta officially announced

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>their intention to use his signature matching for the cop

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>city vote referendum. Back in twenty eighteen, a federal judge

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 1>in Georgia ruled that signature matching did not serve any

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>legitimate in interest and disenfranchised black and brown voters disproportionately.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 1>For years, the ACLU has advocated against and won multiple

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>court cases against discriminatory signature matching processes. Fair Fight Action,

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a Georgia based voting rights organization founded by Stacy Abrams,

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>responded to the news Atlanta would be using signature matching

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 1>with a statement saying quote signature matching is a tool

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of voter suppression that litigated extensively in Georgia and removed

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>from the mail in ballot process because of its harm

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to voters resulting in mass disenfranchisement. Using the discredited process

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of signature matching is unacceptable and risks unfairly rejecting thousands

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of valid petitions. Signature verification is notoriously subjective, disproportionately impacts

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>voters of color, and as biased against disabled and elderly voters.

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>There is extensive precedent in Georgia showing the harms of

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.439
<v Speaker 1>this process. It must be relegated to them. Past Fair

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>fight calls on the City of Atlanta to rescind their

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>intent to use this process and to enact steps that

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<v Speaker 1>fairly evaluate these petitions unquote. Facing the City of Atlanta's

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>quote open and ongoing hostility to the cop city vote referendum,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the coalition has decided to use the time extension granted

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>by federal Judge Mark Cohen to continue collecting signatures to

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>quote leave no doubt as to the will of Atlanta

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>voters unquote. They now plan to submit petition signatures on

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>September twenty third. The City Council will then have fifty

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 1>days to validate the signatures, which means that if successful,

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.919
<v Speaker 1>and assuming the city doesn't further interfere the referendum would

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>get put on the ballot during the March primary election

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four. The vote being pushed into March

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>adds a few complications. Turnout may skew more Republican as

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.879
<v Speaker 1>it's unlikely there will be a Democratic presidential primary, and

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the vote being seven months away disrupts the momentum that

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the campaign has been gaining over the past couple of months.

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>People who signed the petition back in June would have

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to wait almost a whole year to vote on the ballot.

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>The few extra months does give more time to educate

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>the public about cop City during a lead up to

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the election, but that goes both ways, which means that

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>after two years of this movement mostly taking form as

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 1>a ground war over territory, now for the time being,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>much of the fight to stop Cop City will change

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 1>into a pr war in the public sphere. This shift

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>from a physical offense to a metaphysical offense was something

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that I already felt coming back during the Week of

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>action in terms of like cameras and spectacle the other

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>The big feeling I had on the Saturday kickoff rally

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was like this just feels like society of the spectacle,

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Like there's.

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Such a performance.

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>It was very performative, but it was like almost like

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>with all of the cameras looking at everything all the time,

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it was like are people trying to make a proximily

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>of this movement for the cameras? Like is that has

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>become almost more important? Or like it felt that way.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 1>This is a conversation that people have, like is it

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>worth creating moments where we expect the police to lash

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>out violently? Like is that effective as a propaganda tactic.

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that if comes with losing while looking good,

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 2>it does.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is like that is losing while looking good.

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 1>But also I don't think that's nearly as effective as

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>people think it is. I think after twenty twenty, I

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>think people are kind of desensitized to a lot of

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 1>police violence at protests. The visual the visuals of police

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>hurting protesters, I don't think is nearly as impactful as

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it was even three years ago. So I think people

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 1>are also realizing that and realizing that, hey, the sacrifice

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>inherent in up actions where you know that you're probably

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>going to get sucked up by police, that's not worth it.

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>That that one, it treats people as like tools. That

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 1>treats people as disposable, which is, you know, that's not

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>great if you want to build a long lasting movement,

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's not even very effective. As the public relations

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>battle over the fate of cop City intensifies in the

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.280
<v Speaker 1>lead up to the vote, with the City of Atlanta

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly ready to run a full election, propaganda campaign strategies

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 1>of resistance cannot overlook the physical construction of the facility.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Pre construction has been active and ongoing for a few

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>months now, mostly in the form of tree clearing and

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 1>land grading. Just a few days ago, the Atlanta Police

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Foundation updated their construction timeline, saying that they had just

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>began installing a stone base for the main roadway, that

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:56.359
<v Speaker 1>irrigation and site lighting is now underway, and full lawn

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>construction is set to quote begin in the next week

0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>or or soot that now may be out of date,

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>but based on the progress being made on the site,

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it's clear that construction is now imminent, and with the

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>threat of the referendum, the APF will try to get

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>as much built as quickly as possible to help with

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the pro copcity side of election messaging. One of the

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.919
<v Speaker 1>original goals of the referendum was to try to place

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>an injunction on further construction until the ballot vote, but

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it's unknown if or when that would happen. In the meantime,

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>activists may take a cue from Earth First, and instead

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of trying to occupy the site, instead they might find

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>creative ways to make the construction site hard to work on. Also,

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>with the increased element of spectacle placing a lot of

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>extra eyes on pre announced public demonstrations, more secretive actions

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 1>may start becoming more common. There's other actions that can

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>happen more covertly, like if you're doing sabotage where you

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>don't need to invite a camera crew to film you

0:49:59.320 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>do crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is move not?

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 6>Why is?

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's also as a rule like why That's the

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 1>other thing is like so many of these events during

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>during these weeks of action are pre planned that not

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 1>only gives media heads up on like we're gonna film this,

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and this is also gonna that's gonna change the actions

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that happened while this is happening because everyone knows they're

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>being launched, it also gives police heads.

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Up to to shut down the paths your in jurudchment career.

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<v Speaker 1>So that I think that comes with the week of

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Action format because if people people coming in from out

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of town, they don't know where to go, if they're

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>not already tied in with the movement, they don't know

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>what what what exactly to do. So that's that's another

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that thinks could change during future actions that may

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>not be part of the Week of Action is more covert,

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>less less pre planned, pre announced actions that are maybe

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 1>uh maybe a little bit more mischievous in their recent

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>statement on voter suppression. The referendum also announced quote the

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:59.280
<v Speaker 1>coalition will consider using upcoming opportunities for non violent direct

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>actions to direct the people's frustration with the city council's

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>obstruction of the democratic process unquote. Camal Franklin of Community

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Movement Builders added quote, if the city needs to see

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 1>a demonstration of the people's commitment to the issue, we're

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>happy to provide one. Unquote. Police intentionally denying anarchists operating

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>space by occupying the Wolani themselves may shift the more

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>liberal side of the movement to now focus on rallies

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and events around the construction site, which could also inadvertently

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>draw eyeballs away and open up other territory across the

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>city that might be more vulnerable to attack by small

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 1>groups to quote the direct action communicate claiming responsibility for

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>torching the police motorcade on July first. Quote, while signatures

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>are collected, the police are still killing. We cannot wait.

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.879
<v Speaker 1>If the referendum fails, actions like ours and Boulder will

0:51:56.920 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>be the only means available. Unquote. With construction imminent, subcontractor

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>tensions increasing and the City of Atlanta gambling with voter suppression,

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 1>right now the movement really cannot afford to alienate the

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Green anarchists that pioneered the early legitimacy of this movement

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>with bold direct action. The Atlanta Police Foundation is trying

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat. What

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 1>happens in the next few months may push Atlanta to

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 1>a dangerous tipping point. No matter the endpoint of this

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>particular struggle, victory or defeat cannot be imagined as the end.

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>The fight against Copcity is one large battle in an

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:44.240
<v Speaker 1>ongoing war, a war of police militarization, racism, environmental justice,

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and against the incestuous neoliberal police state in its leviathan

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like formation. Based on what happens here in Atlanta, similar

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 1>police project proposals will be recalibrated. As the South goes,

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:03.439
<v Speaker 1>so goes the nation. Capitalist realism posits that history is over,

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's a literal thing of the past, But it

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>turns out you're living through it right now, So what

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 1>will you do to create it? You can read more

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<v Speaker 1>about the fights to stop Coopcity at Atlpresscollective dot com

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