1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: player for you, Stave, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: in the stragedyre of normalcy here. Let's get a roll 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: in here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: you one Bills Live, NFL News and Notes to discuss. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: We got NFL Networks James James Palmer in the third 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: hour of the program, and plenty to chew on with 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: respect to the Bills, and we will get right into 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: it after we get through some NFL news and notes, 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: as we commonly do here at the top of the show. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: And I guess first and foremost, the Bills added a 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: defensive tackle today, Treyvon Hester, who's spent some time in 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: the league but knock knocking around with a few teams. 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Former seventh round pick of the then Oakland Raiders and 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: then spend some time with Philadelphia and Washington in eighteen 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: and nineteen. I think was in Jacksonville last year Phillies 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: practice squad last year, but didn't get in any games. 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: So you know, you're looking at a twenty eight year 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 1: old guy with some time in the League. Pittsburgh native 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: played college ball at Toledo. Uh, you know, six two 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: three h four, he'll be in there competing. You know, 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: it's an uphill climb. It's more it's more competition, and 24 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: certainly the guy's not going to be it's not gonna 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: be too big a moment for him. So we'll see 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: if he's he's worked on his game and make can 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: make the squad. It's gonna be interesting to see, how 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: because with all this competition at you know, d Line 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Um and you know, for nothing, not for nothing else, 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: but the backup linebackers um A J. Klein, Meta Kevich, 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: those guys, all the corners they've got trying to find 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: a corner number two. There's gonna be a ton of 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: guys competing, and it's gonna you know, it's come down 34 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: to Brownie. And I hate to say this because it 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: makes it makes it sound like I've got a fixation 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: with this. But who can cover kicks? Could? I mean 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: I heard this talk about that you know the jack 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Actually Tim Tebow actually signed his contract to day with 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Jackson's right. That was another thing where thirty four year 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: old gonna come. Tim Tebow's gonna have to cover kicks. 41 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: He might have to make this right now, I'm not 42 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure Tim Tebow, once he's on the 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: team's gonna do whatever it takes. I get it. But 44 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: thirty four years old, he's gonna be I mean, I 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: did it. I guess what am I shaping? What am I? What? 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: Am I laughing? But you said you're only pain free 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: when you were running full speed at that point. That's true, 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: that's true. But I mean that's what it's gonna come 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: down to. There's a lot of competition here on this club, 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be a lot of room on 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, they don't make more It's not like, 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, you can make more spots on the field. 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: There's only eleven of them. So somebody's got to do 54 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, which makes the whole discussion we had 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: the other day about positionless football all the more interesting. 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: And we'll get into that a little bit with James Palmer. 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm interested for more of his overarching league perspective on that, 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: and we know he spent some time with Jacksonville pre 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: draft and during the draft, so we'll get his thoughts 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: on Urban Meyer as a new head coach in this league, 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Travis etn you know who was playing receiver 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: throughout the rookie minicamp and now tebow And you know, 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: because that's a team on Buffalo schedule this year. I mean, 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't think many expected to be a contest. The 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Bills have to go down there. They're favored by six 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: and a half points for that game on an opening line, 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: and we'll have to see just how ready urban Meyer 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: is to coach at the professional level. It's always an adjustment, 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: but with the way the league is going now to 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a more wide open offense, passing type game, he's used 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: to that stuff and he's also used to defending it. 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know, we'll have to see it's there 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: will be a lot of eyeballs fixated on Jacksonville just 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: because of the name recognition of urban Meyer, and you 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: know what he's been at the college level. So yeah, 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: we'll get into that, along with a host of other 77 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: things with James later on in the show. Did you 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: see the Bruce arians story about how he's not going anywhere, 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: not gonna, not anywhere near retirement at age sixty eight. 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: He basically was asked this on the Pewter Report podcast 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: that he appeared on, and there was a report that said, 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, if the if the Bucks went another Super Bowl, 83 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: He's riding off into the sunset. And he immediately dismissed 84 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: that report as quote one hundred percent b s. So 85 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, it's his plan to keep coaching, doesn't 86 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: have any plans on retiring. It's just when do I 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: not want to go back to work? I get, yeah, 88 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: exactly what else are you gonna do? What's more fun 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: than doing what he's doing? And that it's it's trite 90 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: in our country and here, and I don't know, it 91 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: may be this way all over the planet, where we 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: tell our kids find something you really want to do 93 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: for the rest you're like, you pursue your passions, that 94 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of thing. So that and this is what happens 95 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: when people do that. You get to be seventy eight 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: or sixty eight, almost seventy years old, you know, like, 97 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I still love it. Yeah, why do I want to 98 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: quit now? And they don't. It takes it. It's a 99 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: big deal. And some we're speculating that, oh, you know, 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: when Brady retires, arians will just retire too, you know, 101 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: instead of redoing the quarterback position for the franchise, and 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: he also pooh pooed that. He said, I'm not tied 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: to anybody. So he basically insinuated that, you know, his 104 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: decision is going to be his decision on when he's done, 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: not when Brady's done. I'm gonna give you done too. 106 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: They played one season together. I mean, it's not like, yeah, 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: you know there there have been questions in the past 108 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: about his health, which was why he originally retired. Probably 109 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: what is that five six years ago now stepped aside 110 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: had a hard condition. So he was also asked about 111 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 1: his health and his fitness level. He said, everything's great, 112 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: said I lost all this weight during the season that 113 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: I've now I've gained it all back, so he said, 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I have to lose it again. But other than that, 115 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: he got a clean bill of health. He said, I'm 116 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: still a C plus. I'm good. I guess it's sixty eight. 117 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: If you're a C plus, you're doing pretty well. So 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I aspire to be a C plus at some point future. 119 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: But that's what we're looking at. I mean, I've heard 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: guys say it, and you can kind of understand it 121 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: even more. You know, you love it when coaches do that. 122 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean Pete Carroll's out there. I mean he walks 123 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: around like he's twenty five, you know, and he's older 124 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: than arians. Yeah, he's over I think he's seventy nine 125 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: or seventy this year. But yeah, there's these guys out 126 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: there that do it, and then it's easier to see 127 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: in the player And I've heard guys put articulated pretty well, 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: particularly great quarterbacks. Peyton Manning said it. We saw it 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: play out in the end of Brett Farve's career. Peyton 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Manning said it. I believed. I think it was Peyton 131 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: Manning said it to me and when I asked him 132 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: about it. And Tom Brady's living it out as well. 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: You get to the end of it, and Ryan Fitzpatrick's 134 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: a great example of it as too. So when these 135 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: guys are playing quarterback, there's something about that job that's 136 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: pretty special. You can, as we can all imagine even better. It's, 137 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's a job different than the one I had, 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: and I was a pro on the same team, right, 139 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: so it's you have a little different when guys are 140 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: looking to you and you talk to him every play 141 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: and you tell them what they're doing every play, and 142 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: you make that thing, you orchestrate that thing, and you 143 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: put a help put together the game plan, and everything's 144 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: centered on you. When you're under center, you know there's 145 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: a million eyes looking at you, and there's something probably 146 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: intoxicating about that, a little bit rock star our mentality 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: kind of about that. But there's also a big a 148 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: sense of family and camaraderie that you've got a lot 149 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: of guys that are pulling for you, with you and 150 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: elevating you, and you're elevating them. So there's a lot 151 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: of that in there. It's a unique position as a quarterback. 152 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: And when you start talking about guys retiring like Ben 153 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and you know, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, 154 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: all these guys, the realization is this, once you take 155 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: your last snap, you'll never have another job like that one. Yeah, 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: there is no other job like playing quarterback in the NFL. 157 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: There's no other job like being a head coach in 158 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. There's some kind of like an executive or whatever, 159 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: but there ain't nothing like being that guy. That's why 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to walk away for a lot of guys. 161 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: We saw Brett Farr bounce around at the end of 162 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: his career, just looking for someplace to take a snap, 163 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: you know. And you see other guys too, Steve, Steve Young. 164 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: They had to carry him off the field. They carried 165 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly off the field for the last time. Literally 166 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: literally you literally you have to pry these guys out 167 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: of the game. That's why it doesn't end well for 168 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: a lot of them. M Johnny Unitus ends up playing 169 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles or the San Diego Chargers. Joe 170 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: Namath plays for the Rams. All these iconic quarterbacks, they 171 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: can't They ain't gonna do Joe Montana, you know. In 172 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: some cases are a little different because Joe Montana gets 173 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: pushed out by another Hall of Fame young guy. But 174 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: still the thought is the same. You get these these coaches, 175 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: like Bruce Arians, they reach a level of success late 176 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in their life and everybody says, well, you've accomplished it. 177 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: Now you're done. Not so fast. Speaking of quarterbacks, there 178 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: was a report from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler that the Jets, 179 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: like the Patriots, were interested in signing veteran quarterback Brian 180 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: Hoyer to their roster as a mentor for Zach Wilson. 181 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Remember we were just talking the other day about how 182 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: they don't have anybody with any measure of experience in 183 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: the league, backing up, backing up Zach Wilson. In New York, 184 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: it's James Morgan and Mike White who really don't have 185 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: much game experience, if any, in the regular season. And 186 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: we were like, huh, I wonder what that's about, Like, 187 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: are they trying not to have anybody that the Jets 188 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: can turn to to keep the press and you know, 189 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: the fan base at Bay in case things get a 190 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: little rocky at the beginning for Zach Wilson. But now 191 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: we're here. They were trying to sign Brian Hoyer, who 192 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: ultimately goes back to New England. He's got a home 193 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: up there, probably from his three or four stints up 194 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: there already two stints, Yeah, he's been, he knows the offense, 195 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: and you gotta think two, where's he got a better 196 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: chance to play? Theory? Seriously, Well, right, Wilson's sink or swim. 197 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: So even if they're sinking, he's gonna probably still be 198 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: playing New England. There's an outside chance that's that's a 199 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: long shot. Yeah, no question, there's a couple of guys 200 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: in there, but neither guy would look to be to 201 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: me on firm footing. Right, My question is this, who 202 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: the heck are the Jets gonna get now at quarterback? Well, 203 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: there aren't many out there, but the one guy that 204 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: came to mind, Steve was Matt Barkley. What do you 205 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: think about Barkley is a backup for the Jets. That's 206 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: a great call. Barkley would really help and I think 207 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: he'd be a good fit there. I think it is 208 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: beside the point. What it does say is it's one 209 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: more instance. You know, we saw this draft for the Jets. 210 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: We saw him take Zach Wilson and you know, got 211 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: him some help. They got an offensive line they're trying 212 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: to put together, trying to build it around him. A 213 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: little bit like Josh did. It seems like the Jets 214 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: are doing things, for lack of a better way to 215 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: put it, put it, they're doing things smart for the 216 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: first time in a long time. They've got a plan 217 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: and they're sticking to it, and it makes some sense 218 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: when you look at it. Salad is probably the best 219 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: head coach they've hired since Herm Edwards, right, So they've 220 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: got they've kind of got themselves straightened out for a 221 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: better way to put it. And this is one more 222 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: thing to say, Listen, we are looking for a veteran court. 223 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: It's not that we don't like these guys, but lets 224 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: we don't we want a guy like that. So it's 225 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: one more signal that the Jets seemed to like got 226 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: it together a little bit. They're looking A Horrior's a 227 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: great call. Matt Barkley would be to me better, Matt 228 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Barkley's a great call for the Jets. I wouldn't be 229 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: surprised if they give him a call, and if they 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: haven't already. Right um, because I was looking down the 231 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: list of free agent quarterbacks that are still out there, 232 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: there's not much Steve. I mean, we know Trubisky's here, 233 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: a J. Mccaron signed, Jacoby Purcett's in Miami, Mike Lennon's 234 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: with the Giants, Tyrod Taylor's in Houston. Uh, Ryan Fitzpatrick's 235 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: in Washington, Horrier's back in New England. I mean, Colt 236 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: McCoy resigned somewhere else, Nate Sudfeld's in San Francisco, Josh 237 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: Dobbs went back to Pittsburgh. Uh, CJ. Bethard signed for 238 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: goodness sakes in Jacksonville as a backup veteran backup for 239 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. H. Josh Rosen resigned in San Francisco. Anybody 240 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: as a third qbat anybody who signs Rosen ahead of 241 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley's Rosen was in San Francisco last year, they 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: picked him up and then they brought him back and whatever. 243 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Geno Smith resigned as the backup in Seattle, Ryan Griffin 244 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: and Blaine Gabberer back in Tampa, and Alex Smith retired. 245 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: So really the only realistic names at least as far 246 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: as I can see. And I'm not going to pretend 247 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: to have taken a deep dive into the free agent 248 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: quarterback market as it currently stands right now, But you're 249 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: talking Matt Barkley and Brett Hunley, who was in Arizona 250 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: last year just visited with the Cowboys this week as 251 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: a possible backup to Dak How is Barkley not a 252 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: more sought out now? Maybe he is, and maybe his 253 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: price is too high, all this others that we don't know, 254 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: But why is not for two million dollars last year? 255 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: Why can a team not see a guy who was 256 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: sitting in the hip pocket at Josh Allen during his development. Yeah, 257 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: be an asset to a team who just drafted a 258 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback like a Chicago Bear. Well, I see the 259 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Bears have got a couple of guys that are really 260 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: good folds as a great mentor really did it for 261 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and he's that. He's that kind of guy 262 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: you're looking for the Jets and Zach Wilson be perfect. 263 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: And not to mention, if you look at Bart Justin Herbert. 264 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Not to mention if you look at Barkley's film. He 265 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: crushed Miami. His first start was on like five days 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: with the playbook, and he beat the Jets forty one 267 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: to ten. He beat I mean, granted under a different 268 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff, but he beat your team forty one to ten. 269 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: That's a good point. So why I'll jump for Barkley 270 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: and I'll say Justin Hurt. I don't know who the 271 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: backup for Justin Herbert is. But didn't they just lose 272 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor? They did? Why would they not sign Matt Barkley. 273 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: It was exactly the mirror image of what he did 274 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. He named Barkley's a California guy. Yeah, there's 275 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: a couple of he's righting their back, right, there's a 276 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: couple of Joe Burrow. I don't know who. I can't 277 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: tell you who backs up Joe Burrow. Maybe they've got 278 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: a nice veteran guy down there, but but there's some guy. 279 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: There's guys around with these young quarterbacks that are people drafted. 280 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Drew Locke could probably use them. Matt Barkley. I mean 281 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: that they just they've got Teddy Bridgewater out there, and 282 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: then oh, that's right, they just got him. But you 283 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: know there's they have Chase Daniel in LA to back up, 284 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: to back up Justin Herbert. Okay, a lot of people 285 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: like him. Okay, a lot of teams in the league 286 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: like him. Yeah, he's been around. But I'm saying Matt 287 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Barkley is a guy that would be to me forget. 288 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly the cupboards bear now this Layton in 289 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the off season, but Matt Barkley would be the guy 290 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: that you'd be talking to. And then the quarterback story 291 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that takes the cake? Are we surprised that it deals 292 00:15:53,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: with Jim McMahon. This was eye opening even for Jim McMahon. Now, 293 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: he is a big storyteller, and we should take the 294 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: fact that this is his version of the events with 295 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: a grain assault, because I think sometimes he is guilty 296 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: of a little impellishment. But in any event, the right 297 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: up is titled Jim McMahon colin Bill Belichick is a 298 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: lying piece of you know what. So we're going back 299 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: to the mid nineties. Here McMahon is at the tail 300 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: end of his career. He's essentially a backup quarterback in 301 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: the league, and he is on the Brown's roster under 302 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: head coach Bill Belichick, and essentially there's a sticky situation 303 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: with the roster. They have any rash of injuries, they 304 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: need to open up some roster spots. So Belichick calls 305 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: McMahon into his office and says, hey, we're gonna have 306 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: to release you. We got a lot of guys hurt. 307 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: We need some roster spots. And so McMahon claims that 308 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: he put it to him point blank, like, hey, are 309 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: you gonna sign me back when the injuries are over 310 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: or should I just look for somewhere else to go, 311 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: And he's like, oh no, no, no, we need you here, 312 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: We need you here. He even indicates that Belichick told 313 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: him we'll pay you just to hang around even if 314 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: you're not on the roster, which is illegal. Um So 315 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: he says to Bill, what are you telling me? Because 316 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: says I want you to move here, And he said, well, 317 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be here, I gotta move my family here. 318 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna be here for six months. I gotta find 319 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: a hockey team for my sons and don't so don't 320 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: screw me around. We're gonna take care of you. We'll 321 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: pay you to sit out, right. So so now McMahon 322 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: calls his attorney, asks his attorney, can I trust this guy? 323 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: Are they going to really pay me to sit out? 324 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: And you know, long story short, the first week of 325 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: sitting out, McMahon goes looking for his check and they're 326 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: giving him the runaround. Second week out, same deal. So 327 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: finally they signed him back the third week that he 328 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: was out, and he dresses for three games. He gets 329 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: those game checks, but then he confronts the GM about 330 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: the money. He wasn't paid to sit out as Belichick promised, 331 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: and Lombardi basically tells him maybe we'll pay you, maybe 332 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: we won't. Those were the wrong words, right, And McMahon's 333 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: a man snaps on him and he's having a fight 334 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: with him in the hall right, throws him up against 335 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: the wall. He's choking him out, which I can totally believe. 336 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: I can believe that he had a loose screw man. 337 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, the whole thing you can take with 338 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: a block assault. But so so then the best part 339 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: is he tells him, you're gonna pay my money. You're 340 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: in paying my money. Then he realizes, oh, man, is 341 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: there anybody else in this hallway seeing this? Or there 342 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: any cameras in the hallway here to film this? And 343 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: so he said, I stopped hitting Lombardi and he slid 344 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: down the wall. I walked into the training room, called 345 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: my attorney and said, hey, get me cut right now. 346 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: He called me back in two minutes, said they'll release 347 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: you if that's what you want. So I had just 348 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: walked out of the quarterback meeting to go to the restroom, 349 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: and all of this had happened in ten minutes. So 350 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I walked back into the QB meeting room Benny Testabernie, 351 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: Eric Zyre and the quarterbacks coach and said, hey, boys, 352 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: I'll see you all later. I'm out of here. And 353 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: the coach, the quarterback coach goes, have you talked to Bill? 354 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: He says, you could tell Bill to kiss my bippie. 355 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: He's a lying piece, if you know what. And then 356 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I was gone. And the best part is the next 357 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: day he gets signed by Green Bay and they win 358 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He gets signed by Green Bay the 359 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: next day and backs up Brett for is that tastic? 360 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: It is? H Yeah, the NFL at times does look 361 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: like a frat house. It's more entertaining off the field 362 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: sometimes the guys like because there are guys like McMahon 363 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: who and he's one of those at quarterback here. It's 364 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: really it's easy to see why he bounced around, why 365 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: he didn't even last in Chicago where he gave him 366 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: their only Super Bowl victory. I've said it a ton 367 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: to you on the show, and I've heard head coaches 368 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: tell me this year you want a lot of guys 369 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: like like here in Buffalo. Sean McDermott, Brandon being spent 370 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: a lot of time finding out who these guys are, 371 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: what kind of people they are, and they want really good, 372 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: solid motive, self motivated people who are all about it 373 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and really be unselfish for the team to, you know, 374 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: go the extra mile, the whole nine yards, and every 375 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: head coach will tell you want and I've had a 376 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: couple of head coaches tell me you also want about 377 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: a handful of guys who you just hope show up 378 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday because they're that kind of guy. They don't 379 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: care about anything. They're gonna show up, play and they're 380 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna bar fight their way through the game. They're gonna 381 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: give you an edge. And you need guys like that, 382 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: but a handful. Now at quarterback, you kind of it's 383 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: not kind of a guy you're looking for. But that's 384 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: the kind of guy McMahon was. He'd be there on 385 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: game day, but during the week he's like the housecat. 386 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: He may disappear for three days and then show ups like, 387 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: oh here he is. He's fine. Well that kind of thing, 388 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: haven't you always said? You want some guys on your rosters, 389 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: whether they're gonna be there on game day or in jail. 390 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: So you don't want Yeah, you don't want criminals, no question, 391 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: but you do want guys that have an edge, like 392 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: if something happens, the consequences be damned, they're gonna they're 393 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: in a fight, right They they are, and they're the 394 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: guys you want on the field because and it's like 395 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: like in the Bills right now, John Feliciano is one 396 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: of those guys where if there's an altercation on the 397 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: and you want him, you know, lining up close to 398 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: your QB too to checked him if there's an altercation 399 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: on the field. And I've said it before, if if 400 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Feliciano is not in the middle of the fight, he 401 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: is doing everything he can to get there before it 402 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: breaks up. You need guys like that because they're a 403 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: guys because quite frankly, you probably got a couple of 404 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: guys like me that you know when you when stuff 405 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: goes into the lawn mower that I'm the stuff that 406 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: gets shot out the side in a fight. You need 407 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: some guys that are actually the blades of the fight 408 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: right of the mower. So that's what that's what these 409 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: guys are. McMahon was one of those guys and playing 410 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: the exact wrong position to do it. But all this 411 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: compared to what I can't even I can't tell the 412 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: stories that I've heard about Jim McMahon. This is not 413 00:22:54,840 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: this is a picture of the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, yeah, 414 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: didn't he write a book. I gotta go grab that. 415 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: There's gotta be a hundred good stories like that in there. 416 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Probably either better. However, many days, how did that guy? Well, 417 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: he's Catholic? However many days he was in the NFL? 418 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: What there's ten stories for every day he was in 419 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: the NFL? Man? Yeah, Ted Tolner was his quarterback coach 420 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: at b YU, former coach of mine. Yeah, and they 421 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: hung out. So Jim McMahon touched a lot of lives 422 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: in the NFL, A lot of players, a lot of teams. 423 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: He was on San Diego for a minute, um Arizona 424 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: for a minute. I think obviously Green Bay, Chicago and 425 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland he was on. I think he would 426 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: have been perfect for the Raiders. Wouldn't he tell me? 427 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Tell me he's not an al Davis guy. That might 428 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: have been too much of a good thing. He wouldn't 429 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: have lasted, He would have last had an even shorter career. 430 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: He played for the Oakland Raiders in the eighties. My goodness, 431 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: that would have been something topic today Twitter poll time, 432 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: as we wanted to. Again, we're not reviewing the offseason 433 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: here per se. We're kind of looking ahead to see 434 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: what you feel was the most important offseason decision as 435 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: it pertains to twenty twenty one, and we have, you know, 436 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: a few choices for you. You can certainly come up 437 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: with something else. As always, we leave you the other, 438 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: the famous other category in the Twitter poll. But the Bills, 439 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: even though in terms of big splash moves or giant 440 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: signings or big trades like we saw the year before 441 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: with the Stefan Diggs deal, they haven't done those land 442 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: moving type deals this offseason. They've done a lot to 443 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: keep the roster that took them to the Final four 444 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: last year intact. So what we're asking you today is 445 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: what's the biggest offseason decision the Bills have to this point. 446 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: Among the choices, adding speed on offense, pass rush editions, 447 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: preserving the roster as much as possible from twenty twenty, 448 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: or something else. Let us know what you think. At 449 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: eight oh three, five fifty one, eight eight eight five 450 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board. 451 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: Open line for you there, and we've got open phones 452 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: up until the third hour of the show, so feel 453 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: free to join us and on the tweet sheet at 454 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: one Bills Live now. Adding speed on offense. Some people 455 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: might scratch their heads a little bit and say, wait, 456 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: what are you talking about Emmanuel Sanders. No, he's not 457 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: faster than John Brown, better route runner. Matt Brida's a 458 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: speed element that's been added to the offense. Jacob Hollister 459 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: is a more athletic element added a tight end than 460 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: either Tyler Croft or Lee Smith. Some might say, well, 461 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: that's not saying much, but I think it is. And 462 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: so maybe it's not to an enormous degree, but it's 463 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: it's an element that's been added. I think there's there's 464 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: more speed there on that side of the ball at 465 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: A couple of the skilled positions, pass rush editions are obvious. 466 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: The draft and preserving the roster from twenty twenty was 467 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: what made waves early in the free agency period with 468 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: the Bill's ability to get Matt Milano, Darryl Williams, John 469 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Feliciano back in the fold for twenty one and beyond 470 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, and Lee vi Wallace resigned as well. They 471 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Tenderedike Butcker. He resigned as a restricted free agent. He's 472 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: back in. You know this, it's interesting we might have 473 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: to it'd be interesting to also, I don't know if 474 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: we probably won't go down this because it's hard to 475 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: talk about guys who aren't here anymore. When Matt Milano, 476 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: what am I saying? Yeah, what's the biggest what's the 477 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: biggest got thing? What's the biggest player we're gonna miss 478 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: from this this season? Is it going to be a 479 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: guy like Lee Smith? Or is John Brown? Or is 480 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: it Matt Barkley you knows it? Or Andre Roberts. You 481 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: got some guys that aren't here from a year ago 482 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: who you can think back and remember some contributions they 483 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: made that were pretty significant. Andre Roberts in particular. Of 484 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: course John Brown. I mean that guy was money. Was 485 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: mitigated by the fact that he missed seven games, right, 486 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: but over the course, Yeah, but for the course of 487 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: his career, you got to know that how much you 488 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: could depend on him when he was out there. There 489 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: are some significant losses, although in the in the stat 490 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: sheet maybe not significant, but I think in the in 491 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: the culture, in the character department of Matt Barkley and 492 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: John Brown and Andre Roberts, those guys you're gonna miss those. 493 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 1: And Lee Smith that's a guy that made a difference. 494 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Blue guy, Yeah, Glue guys, all of them Matt Barkley 495 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: was called out at the end of the season about 496 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: how much he and his family helped out all the 497 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: young guys and their significant others, you know, acclimate to 498 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: the pro game and you know, find their footing as 499 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: a family, let alone a professional athlete. So it'd be 500 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: interesting that maybe think about the differences of this roster, 501 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: which guys are not going to be here and which 502 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: one might be the most significant. I don't know if 503 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: we'll get to that at some point in the future, 504 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: but they did preserve largely the guys that we can 505 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: all see and know that contributed on the field. So 506 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: which do you think is the biggest offseason decision which 507 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: carried the most weight here? Is it adding the speed 508 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: on offense, the pass rush editions, preserving the roster from 509 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty? Maybe it's something else entirely eight oh three 510 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five 511 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: fifty open line for you there, or you can hit 512 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet, you know, add one 513 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: bills live urkle Eaton just chimed in and he said 514 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: something we were looking who did. It's a Twitter handle 515 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: kirkle Eaton Jr. And He made a great point, one 516 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: that we had forgotten about when we started talking about 517 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: this pole. The one thing that they didn't lose was 518 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Neither coordinator got hired as a head coach. 519 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: That's big we thought. We we thought for sure one 520 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: of them was going to be gone, if not both. 521 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: That wasn't an offseason decision as much as it was 522 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: a fortunate circumstance as far as this team's considered. It 523 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: certainly is unfortunate for Leslie Frasier or for Brian Davill, 524 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: who I think we can we can get pretty quickly 525 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: to the fact that both of them were very deserving 526 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: of an opportunity like that. For whatever reason, it didn't 527 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: come to fruition for either of them, But the loss 528 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: of some other team that was in need of a 529 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: head coach is Buffalo's game. Questionably, Leslie Frasier has been 530 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: a tremendous defensive coordinators, his demeanor, his relationship with Sean McDermott, 531 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: the way they've handled their in game adjustments. I'll say this, 532 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I've said it before. If you want to get a 533 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: feel for what the defense was about last year. One 534 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: of the interesting things I noticed and mentioned it in 535 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: the broadcast was when the Bills would come out and 536 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: take the field the first series of a game. Defensively, 537 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: it was that first series of the game was always 538 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: our opponent's best series of the game. After that first 539 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: series of the game, the Bills absolutely clamped down on 540 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: people from now. They you know, they gave up some 541 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: scoring drives later in games or whatever, but predominantly the 542 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: first drive of the game was the one where that 543 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: other team had the most success. After they came off 544 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: the field and got a handle on the mindset of 545 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: what the offense was thinking about their defense, they all 546 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden started getting way out in front of 547 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: it and they really played great, really much better defense 548 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: after that first series. And I think that's a real 549 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: testament to the way they see the game, their analytics, 550 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: guys up in the up in the booth, the way 551 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: they all interact when the analytics get get thrown into 552 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: the pie, their in game series to series adjustments defensively, 553 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: I think you got a really tip your hat to 554 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser and the same thing with Brian Dable. That's 555 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: one of the things this staff has really done extremely 556 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: well that really jumps out to me that I haven't 557 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: seen other staffs here in Buffalo do for maybe it 558 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: perhaps ever? Yeah, break time for us here, Dave in Lockport, 559 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: Hang tight. You'll be first after the break, along with 560 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: others to follow at eight oh three five fifty. Still 561 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: an open line for you there if you want to 562 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: jump on board. Let us know what you think has 563 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: been the biggest offseason decision made by the Bills so far. 564 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Choices are there for you at one Bills Live. Vote 565 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet or give us a call. Steve 566 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: and I back in a second here on One Bill's Line, 567 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome 568 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, 569 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as we are discussing what you 570 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: feel is the biggest offseason decision made by the Bills 571 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: thus far. Choices are there for you and one Bills 572 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: Live on Twitter, open lines for you on the phones 573 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty one, eight five fifty two 574 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: five fifty to be part of the conversation. And that's 575 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: where we're going now as we lead off with Dave 576 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: in Lockport. Dave, welcome to the show. You're on one 577 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: Bills Live Hi, Chris High Steve. One of the busiest 578 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: offseason edition was signing Darrell Williams. But yesterday while I 579 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: was driving my truck, did Steve say that that possibly 580 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: that one of our offensive tackles that we drafted could 581 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: replace Darryl before his contracts over. Well, I mean, here's 582 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: here's what things possible. Yeah, here's what I was saying, Dave. 583 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: It's about the competition they brought in. And we've already 584 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: seen the Bills willingness to move on from guys who 585 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: have played extremely well for them in the path. They 586 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: did it with in the past. They did it with 587 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Quentin Spain, they did it with Trent Murphy during this 588 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: past season. They elevate guys who which mourned Mitch Morris 589 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: the same thing, so they bench Mitch Morse for a 590 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: game after he was healthy enough to play. So they 591 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: have and I don't know if that was wasn't precautionary 592 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: or wasn't whether it was performance based, but any either way, 593 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: shape or form, they've proven their willingness to sit guys down. 594 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: And in our thought process yesterday, when we got into 595 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: this conversation about what the offensive line might look like, 596 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: if say, Spencer Brown or Tommy Doyle comes in and 597 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: knocks it out of the park, and the coaching stest says, 598 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: we got to get this guy in the field. Well, 599 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: then they've got this plethora of offensive lineman who have 600 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: all proven they can play in the NFL. So now 601 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: you got Forrest lamp you got Darryl Williams, you got 602 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: John Feliciano. All of a sudden, you got these other 603 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: teams out there, these you know whatever, the San Francisco 604 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: forty nine ers of the world, or the Minnesota Vikings 605 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: of the world, you name the team whatever, who've got 606 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: offensive line issues, And all of a sudden, it's like, well, 607 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: they'll call you and say, hey, listen, can we get 608 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: this Darrel Way. You got him on a three year 609 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: deal at a pretty good price for a guy who 610 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: played really good left right tackle for you. Can we 611 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: trade for him for a third round pick? And the 612 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: Bills are sitting there neck deep, and guys are going, yeah, 613 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: because we got a guy on a rookie deal, we 614 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: can plug in there and we feel real good about 615 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about, not that Daryl Waves 616 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: would be on the team and sitting on the bench 617 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: while a young guy took his place. But because they 618 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: have so many guys and all of a sudden you 619 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: find out all of them can play, then you're sitting 620 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: from a situation of strength. You're only going to be 621 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: able to keep eight, possibly nine. Yeah, so you got 622 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: and you've got eleven or twelve or even ten, and 623 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: you can't play Doyle or Brown on the practice squad. 624 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: They'll get poached, so they'll get taken immediately. So that's 625 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: what we were talking about. You keep those guys, and 626 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: one of the upper price, the taller, higher priced veteran 627 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: guys who you signed to a three year extension, like 628 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: Feliciano or Williams, all of a sudden, they're more valuable 629 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: to you as draft capital because you can trade him 630 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: for a pretty a middle to up a round pick, 631 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe a first day, first two day pick. Yeah. But 632 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: to be clear, Steve was just spitballing. He wasn't indicating 633 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: that that was gonna definitively happen exactly. He was just saying, hey, 634 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, these two rookie tackles come along. You're suddenly 635 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: in a situation where you have a bounty of tackle 636 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: talent and it may not be necessary to keep it 637 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: all now. I will say this too, Daryl Williams plays 638 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: pretty good at guard also, so you could always kick 639 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: him inside. And that's still not a terrible salary number 640 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: for a guard. It's a great number for a tackle. 641 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: It's a decent number for a guard. And so yeah, 642 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: and Feliciano, same thing. He's a good number for a 643 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: guard too. So none of these guys are hitting it 644 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: out of the park financially, but by the same token, 645 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: it's a cap year there where everybody's like choking to 646 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: death on the little amount of money they are able 647 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: to spend. So the more help. If you can get 648 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: great play on the field and save yourself five ten 649 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: million bucks, you gotta do it. I think where did 650 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: you come down on the poll today? Like, which which 651 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: one did you? Yeah? I'm I'm kind of most important. 652 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm torn between B and C. I'm torn between the 653 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: pass rush editions and the preserving the roster. I do 654 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in the coaching staff and 655 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: the team to replace those guys like we they've done. 656 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: I think for Slamp was a great signing. I think 657 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: the draft pick, the way they drafted was great. Certainly 658 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: the pass rush help, although the last year the pass 659 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: rush wasn't an atrocity at all. I mean, those guys 660 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: were winning quick and they played a lot of teams 661 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: that had to get rid of the ball quick. Yeah. 662 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: They ranked highly rush win rate. Yeah, which is an 663 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: advanced metric and it used more and it's a little 664 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: bit down the rabbit hole of analytics for me. They 665 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: won a lot, but they didn't get very many. They 666 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: were top ten in sacks at the end of the year. 667 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: But still, yeah, sass, you know, okay, but you're telling 668 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: me they're winning and not it doesn't show well. Yeah, 669 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: and think about this too, Steve. As you've mentioned many 670 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: a time on this show. Second half of the season, 671 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: they were beating the tar out of their opponents. The 672 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: other team had to throw just to try to climb 673 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: back into the games. And usually when games are that lopsided, 674 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: that's when defenses rack up sacks like crazy. Right, And 675 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: that didn't happen either. Right. The Bills did elevate their 676 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: statistical standings as the season went on, but you're right, 677 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: I think some of it had to do with the 678 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: way their offense was just knocking it out of the 679 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: park all the time. So i'm I think, i'm I'm 680 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: all about preserving the roster from last year. I think 681 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: the biggest surprise to me was Feliciano, Darryl Williams, Matt 682 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: Milano resigning. That was huge. I can't I can't get 683 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: around that. Certainly, these new young guys, they're still question marks, 684 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: but at least they made the effort. We don't know 685 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: if it's gonna work or not. We know that Rousseau 686 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: and Basham can really get it done. I think you 687 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: have to say, for sure, we're glad they're at least 688 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: going to have the guys they had last year when 689 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: they won thirteen games. I was similarly conflicted, and so 690 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: where I came down was, I said to myself, what's 691 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: more important is getting back to your jumping off point 692 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty before you try to improve in the 693 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: areas where you feel you need to. And by resigning 694 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,479 Speaker 1: the guys that you mentioned, I thought they got back 695 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: to their jumping off point for twenty twenty. And then 696 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: what they added in the draft, along with a few 697 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: minor signings here and there, not that Sanders was minor 698 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: by any means. Sanders some might even consider to be 699 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: an upgrade due to his route running prowess. He's more versatile. Yeah, 700 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: he is more versatile. I would not debate that for 701 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: a second. And so the jumping off point was getting 702 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: all those guys back into the fold their own free agents. 703 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: That gives you the jump off point from where you 704 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: were at the start of twenty twenty. Then you add Sanders, 705 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: and you add this draft class, and you add Mad 706 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: Breeder for some speed out of the backfield, and now 707 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: you know you've elevated potentially, And we have to say 708 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: potentially because you don't know what you're getting from these 709 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: draft choices this year. I think in time people feel 710 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: pretty good about what a lot of those players in 711 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: the Bill's draft class can be. But this is a 712 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 1: big year. So if they can give you something this 713 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: year right away, that could be gigantic. It's also for me, 714 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not so much it's it's a lot about you know, 715 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: Boogie Basham and Greg Rousseau, but it's also about Faobata 716 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: and the fact that you know, I like him, but 717 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy's not here. You know, I think that him 718 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: not being able to get on the field for that 719 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: defense and the way it was playing was a problem 720 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: getting sat down for those games and at d activated 721 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: said like they needed some upgrade there. So I think 722 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: their efforts to do that are big. But I also 723 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: think this I'm a little bit old school, and I 724 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: certainly preserving the roster is a huge step, particularly when 725 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: we didn't think they was going to be possible given 726 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: the current cap situation. But not only that, I don't 727 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: know that that's certainly it seems comfortable, but I've also 728 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: seen this team tear it down and put it right 729 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: back together with different pieces. They do that. They are 730 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: seemed to be really willing to do that, and they're 731 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: good at it. So I don't know that this is 732 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: a huge step forward because this team seems more than 733 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: willing with these guys all in one year deals. This 734 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: kind of one year They've done that a ton ever 735 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: since the beginning. They signed a one year deal and 736 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: then you don't know if you're ever going to get 737 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: them back. Yeah, but they don't have a problem with that, 738 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: and they like the team they put together went ten 739 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: and six two years ago. They blew it up kind 740 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: of in a lot of plays. They lost some guys 741 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: they brought like Daryl Williams brand new last year, Quentin 742 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: Spain was jettisoned, so they are not afraid of that. 743 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know why I should be, you know 744 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I don't know why I should 745 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: be having faith. I don't know why I think it's 746 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: so important that they save all their guys because this 747 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: crew doesn't need to do that. So there's both sides 748 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: of that coin. It makes you feel comfortable they got 749 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: their guys back, but this is a team that's really 750 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: better when they shuffle the roster and keeping those guys 751 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: on their toes. Yeah. Well, and that's kind of the idea. 752 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, NFL front offices are always trying to make 753 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: their roster a little better, even if they're just tweaking 754 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: some things, and the Bills are no different. And that's 755 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: why the roster is never the same from one year 756 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: to the next. We have to take a break here, 757 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: but when we come back, I've got some edition that 758 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: I think would qualify for the other category in the 759 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: Twitter poll in terms of what's the biggest offseason decision 760 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: and the Bills have made so far. We'll talk about 761 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: that when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented 762 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health it's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back 763 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: to one of Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with 764 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: you and I wanted to discuss Steve the importance of 765 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: an addition to the roster this offseason that could qualify 766 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: for the other category. I'm interested in this take, So 767 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to say that essentially, well, I don't know 768 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: if I have a completely accurate account, because the Bill's 769 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: draft choices that are not signed yet don't appear on 770 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: the roster on the team web page. I will try 771 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: to add them in accordingly here to the total. But 772 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: for other in terms of most important offseason decision, how 773 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: about the addition of size to the roster? What do 774 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: you make of that? I think it's legit, right, Yes, 775 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: I do think it's legit. And as a guy who 776 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: played the game at an undersized from an undersized position, 777 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: you can't beat it. Um, those guys are hard to 778 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: It's it's still a game that's made by one team 779 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: pushing another team out of their way against the other 780 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: teams will So the bigger guys, the bigger they are, 781 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: they that easier that is to happen, the more often 782 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: it happens. So yeah, I am big fan of size 783 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: on a football team, big fan of it. Size and 784 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: speed are the things that are the basics and it 785 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: and it goes for every position, every player, all of that. 786 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: If they're fast and they're big, the other team's gonna 787 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: have problems with you. So yes, I'm I'm one hundred 788 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: percent with you on that. They got three guys that 789 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: that are listed like six to eight in this draft. Yeah, 790 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm counting them up for sixty seven anyway, six 791 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: four or taller on this team, twenty eight players six 792 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: five or taller, eighteen players twenty eight and eighteen, Well 793 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: they're from the same pool. But six four or taller 794 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: on this roster was twenty eight players right, six five 795 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: or taller on this roster eighteen six six or taller. 796 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: One two let's see here. One two they got four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 797 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: ten eleven. I gotta make sure I counted that right. 798 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: One two, five, six, seven, eight, nine ten eleven guys 799 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: six six or taller, and then six seven or taller. 800 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: You got Rousseau, Brown and Doyle the newest editions. So 801 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: three guys six seven or tall six six six six 802 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: is huge. But you think fa Obata six six, two 803 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: sixty five. And you got this this guy that I've 804 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: forgotten they got he's uh Darryl Williams. Where is he? 805 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: Where is he? Where is he? Um? Dev Oh? Yeah, 806 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: the veteran offensive lineman George he's six six, Yeah, it's 807 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: three twenty. That undrafted kid Cyrus to attel a six six. Um, 808 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna play guard. I really really sense a pattern. 809 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: Yeah right. What does that say for an offensive line perspective? 810 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: Does that say power because you're that tall, well and long? 811 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it means past protection, keep people 812 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: at length, takey way. It's a long way off the 813 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 1: edge when you got guys that big, you know, even there, 814 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: even when they get down on their stance, their stances 815 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: are wider because their legs are so much longer. It's 816 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: an extra inch or two for each stance. And they 817 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: get around him, then you get mean, it's an extra 818 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: from the outside edge of the tackle, the outside edge 819 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: of the tackles another foot wider. Which it sounds like 820 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: a little thing, but it feels you can when you 821 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: line up like that a thousand times as defensive ends 822 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: out there going. Man, I'm a long way away, you know. 823 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: Plus not alone the fact that you got to run 824 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: around a thirty four inch armed guy who's got who's 825 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: a basketball player. We're longer, right, So it does make 826 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: a difference. It does make a difference. I'm just so 827 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: I would I would throw that in, you know, and 828 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: you say, well, how many additions with size they made 829 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: it was just the three draft choices? Well kind of. 830 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 1: But over the last year plus, the size quotient has 831 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: been increased significantly. I mean, Daryl Williams is six six, 832 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: He's a giant human being, a three hundred and forty 833 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: five pounds A j Epinessa is a legit six six, 834 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: and as Steve mentioned, faobada legit six six with thirty 835 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: six inch arms. Darryl william Darryl Johnson is six six. Yeah, 836 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, that's the only that is the only 837 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it's the only trait that you 838 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: cannot coach. Yeah, you cannot coach a guy to be taller. 839 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: You can coach them to be You can coach them 840 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: be stronger, faster, more flexible, heavier, lighter, everything. You can 841 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: coach them up mentally with film study and depth of knowledge. 842 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: You can coach him up with technique and all. You 843 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: can change everything about the guy except how tall he is. Yeah, 844 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 1: that's the only thing you can't coach. So I would 845 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 1: put that under the other category. I think it's it's 846 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: something that has clearly been I don't want to say 847 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: a prerequisite, but it is something that is high on 848 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: their list in terms of boxes they would like to check. 849 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: You can't always check it, but it's are evident to 850 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: me they liked checking it. They like checking that box. 851 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 1: Back in the eighties, when I came into the league 852 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: in the nineties, there was still that there was still 853 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: a sense, particularly in the eighties, of the AFC kind 854 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: of NFC thing. There were still guys who had you know, 855 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: coached and come in when the merger happened. You know, 856 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: it's fifteen years after the merger or whatever, nineteen or 857 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: twenty years, twenty five years after the merger in nineteen seventy, 858 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: fifteen years, and so there was still a generation of 859 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: older coaches who were still this NFCAFC kind of mentality. 860 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: And the NFC teams always were built, like I'm pointing 861 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: to the Bill's roster right here. They were always big. 862 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: It was a big man's game. We're gonna get physical, 863 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: We're gonna run that ball, gonna pound it. And then 864 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: when the AFC came in, it was a little different. 865 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: It was like we're gonna sling it around, We're gonna 866 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: lateral it, which is what the AFL was knowing exactly. 867 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: So there was always that kind of, you know, balance 868 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: between AFC NFC, and that's why the NFC teams always 869 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, even their coaches would always 870 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: say like, we're just gonna outphysical these guys in the AFC. 871 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: You know, We're just gonna do it because they just 872 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: don't they don't notice. We don't need to scheme it up. 873 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: We're just gonna run you over. That's right. Their guys 874 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: aren't big enough, strong enough to hold up on us. 875 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: Against us, we got the bigger Now that's you look 876 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 1: at this, they're still out there. Well, I'm gonna say this. 877 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: I remember when Jim Harbaugh went to become the coach 878 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers, everybody was slinging the ball 879 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: all over the place, even as early as two thousand 880 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: and nine, two ten. There were exceptions in the league 881 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: at that time, but people started throwing in a hell 882 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: of a lot more especially the teams that had franchise quarterbacks. 883 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: Harbaugh comes in and he's got Kaepernick as a young quarterback, 884 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: and he gets a monstrous offensive line after doing the 885 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: same exact thing at Stanford even though he had Andrew Luck. 886 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: And they're just rolling people over going old school power 887 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: run game and they're winning doing that, going to Super Bowl. Yeah, 888 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: I went to a Super Bowl doing that. Now, obviously 889 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: it helps when you have a six six quarterback who 890 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: runs a four to four um. Kaepernick was. Yeah. I 891 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: remember talking to Kaepernick at the Senior Bowl. I mean 892 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: that guy, he was, you know, top one percenters for athleticism. 893 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: I mean he was up there and he could throw 894 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: the ball. I mean he had a rocket, big whip 895 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: of an arm Yeah, big arm um. So yeah, I 896 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: find that interesting. And we know that the NFL sometimes 897 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: have has these cyclical patterns with certain things. I'm not 898 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 1: saying we're going back to a running game. This team 899 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 1: is gonna throw at forty times a game. I think 900 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 1: the size and the length here, chiefly on the offensive line, 901 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: is for past protection. Their length pass protection. I think 902 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: what I see a lot is teams that are right 903 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: up with the trends of what's gonna happen. I think 904 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: the Bills were on top of it last year, and yes, 905 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: in some respects way out ahead of it with that 906 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: ten personnel combination they threw out throwing it on first 907 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: down on first down, using the run game only as 908 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: a way to stay on schedule. There's no question I 909 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: think that was a trend around the league last year. 910 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: And also I think too that the atmosphere during the 911 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: COVID protocols and the way the officials were officiating the 912 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: game where it was administrated, I think everybody got the 913 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: idea of what it was going to be like on 914 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: game day and could take advantage of it with personnel 915 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: and shifts and motions and all of that stuff. And 916 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: I think you can sense here that they feel like 917 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: there's a trend coming again, and I think they want 918 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: to be out ahead of it, and it starts with 919 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: their roster build. Break time for us here when we 920 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: come back. Your comments on the tweet sheet as far 921 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: as what you believe to be the biggest offseason decision 922 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: the Bills have made so far, We'll get to those 923 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: when we return here. On one Bill's line, presented by 924 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: Collid to Health, it's Buffalo Bill's radio, who has been 925 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind 926 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: of a dual role. Steve a blimp. We're not even 927 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: in the strated fear of normalcy. He never normal and 928 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: most of the time entertaining. I'd like to think it's 929 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: One Bills Live, Chris Brown. Certain commercial breaks we're entertaining 930 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: to you, mister. I don't know if all of it's 931 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: suitable for radio. Let's just say some of it is. 932 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: We go, we go away from Buffalo Bill's NFL talk. 933 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: During we do break, we do the biggest offseason decision 934 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: the Bills have made so far. Tell us what it 935 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: is at eight three five fifty one, eight eight five 936 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty open lines for you. There choices 937 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: on the Twitter handle at one Bills Live. And we 938 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: are going to the tweet sheet now to get some 939 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: of your comments on this very subject. Tweet sheet brought 940 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving 941 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills fam. Alan says twenty twenty 942 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: ross for sure, continuity is key. For example, Alan and 943 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: Diggs year two, they can identify a certain situation and 944 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: just know now with that experience, yeah, there is value 945 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: and continuity. I don't think anybody would debate that the 946 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: Bills languished in mediocrity for years here during the drought 947 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: because continuity was not something they could capture at the 948 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: head coaching level, at the quarterback position, even at the 949 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: GM level for a time. And it makes life harder 950 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially to be a consistent and be good. 951 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: That's right, And it's a struggle for the players. And 952 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: certainly when you don't have you know, the guy taking snaps, 953 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: that hurts because when you don't have your franchise quarterback, 954 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: nobody's been able to play well enough to put their 955 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: grip on that position. And if you don't have a 956 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: grip on that position, your offense isn't gonna play well. 957 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: If your offense isn't gonna play well, you change coaches. 958 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: When you change coaches, everything gets wiped out the door 959 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: and he's start again. It's who knows better than Bills 960 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 1: fans what that looks like. Yeah, year to year and 961 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: now I think I don't know, do you think we're 962 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: still in the in the phase where we're reacting the 963 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: way it was used to be in the draft? I mean, 964 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: it's been four years now. No, I think we I 965 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: want to believe that the majority of the fan base 966 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: moved past it. Yeah, because last year was just so 967 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: convincing that those days are over, wasn't it. Yeah, I 968 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,919 Speaker 1: mean a thirteen win season, all, yeah, you feel good 969 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: and forget about your legit? Yes, your year, shall we 970 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: say the Bills? And they were they were so good 971 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: last year. And I'm we always get that. We get 972 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: this a lot on the on the show, with our 973 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: feedback from the fans that well, you know, it's all 974 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: about you know, they can't beat Kansas City. They got 975 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: to do something different to beat Kansas City. They got 976 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 1: to do this to beat Kansas City. They haven't done 977 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: enough to beat Kansas City because the last game is 978 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 1: the kind of the one that sticks in your crawl 979 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: and they see, you know, all the things that Kansas 980 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: City does and did and have done them homes and 981 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: all that Tyreek Hill and Kelsey and all that. I'm 982 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: telling you right now, the Bills are good enough to 983 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: beat Kansas City five months ago. They were good enough 984 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: last season. They're gonna be good enough this season. They 985 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: will be good enough when they play there. But they 986 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: got to play well on that day. And they got 987 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: to play well enough so that they can take the 988 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs out of their games. So they don't play well enough. 989 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: They are good enough. They were good enough last year 990 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: to do it, and they're gonna be good enough this 991 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: year to do it. They can beat anybody they line 992 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: up against it, but they've got to play well on 993 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: that day. That's what happened in the AFC Championship. And 994 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: I've said it, I'll say it, I'll keep saying it. 995 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. The Chiefs played their best game 996 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: in eight weeks against the Buffalo Bills. They played way 997 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: better against the Bills, and they did the week before 998 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: against in the brown against the Browns, and when they 999 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,919 Speaker 1: beat the Browns, they played way better against the Bills, 1000 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: and they did any of their last four games of 1001 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: the regular season. They played better on the night of 1002 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship than they did at any point leading 1003 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: up to that game two months for two months. So 1004 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 1: if and the Bills just did the opposite. They went 1005 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: on the road and they did not play their best 1006 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: game for that reason. That doesn't mean the Bills should 1007 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: scrap it and do something off the wall and go 1008 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: out and spend a gazillion dollars and trade for Julio 1009 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: Jones and go over the cat and do all this stuff. 1010 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: They gotta keep on keeping on because that's how you're 1011 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna be there again this year. Don't do this wild 1012 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: off the rock, off the radar, off the map, Move 1013 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: to see if you can get over the top. You 1014 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 1: were over the top at the beginning of this last season. 1015 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: You're good enough to beat anybody. All you gotta do 1016 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: is play well on that day. And if they do that, 1017 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat anybody they play. And it's about It's 1018 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 1: about the Bills. It's not about the Chiefs, I guess, 1019 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Yeah, in a nutshell, so I 1020 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: don't want You can say it if you want to, 1021 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna listen. I'm gonna get the same 1022 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: line all the way through this. They are already good 1023 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,439 Speaker 1: enough to beat the Chiefs, but they got to play 1024 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: well on the day they play them. Yeah, that's it. 1025 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: They've got the guys. They just need to keep on 1026 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,439 Speaker 1: this train, keep on keeping on. Trust the process. Oh 1027 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: look at that we got. You know what. I'm just 1028 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: looking to the camera and say, trust the process, Trust 1029 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: the process, and I'm gonna say this right now. It 1030 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: has proof that they have been to the playoffs three 1031 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: of four years. They beat two really really good football teams. 1032 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: Last year in the playoffs in a one and done scenario, 1033 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: they beat them both. They're don't think they're not gonna 1034 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: be good this year. They are. I want a whiteboard 1035 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: because I want a tally sheet for how many times? 1036 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: Trust the process is set on this show because at 1037 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: the end of the year, I want to hand it 1038 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: to coach McDermott and say, we are your best advocate. 1039 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: We're pushing the message forward. I'm telling you they this 1040 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,439 Speaker 1: this process works. I'm telling you yeah. They all hard 1041 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: to argue with it. The drafts, the free agent signings, 1042 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: the guys they keep, the guys they let go. The 1043 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: philosophy and it's fine. Forget there are some guys they let. 1044 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: They let go. Player development, They got the improvement of 1045 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: the very young players into really quality players, contributors. Look 1046 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: at last year. Ajponessa comes in and he's like, yeah, 1047 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: he's he He wasn't even active in the first two 1048 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Remember, Yeah, And then at the 1049 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: end of the season, Trent Murphy was sitting down and 1050 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: a Japanessa was the guy. So it works and it's 1051 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna continue to work. Yeah, let's go to 1052 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three, oh five fifty one 1053 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: eighty five fifty two five fifty open line for you there. 1054 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: But we're gonna lead off this segment with Judy and Buffalo. Judy, 1055 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You're on One Bill's Live. Yeah, Hi, guys, um, 1056 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're all overlooking the acquisition of 1057 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: Mitscha Trubisky, which I think was a big move on 1058 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: the Bills part because we need a solid backup. Josh 1059 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: Ellen's going to be the target of every team that 1060 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: they play, and I'm just so happy that we have 1061 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: somebody I think can step in and maybe carry out 1062 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: the game plan that Dave All has. And my prediction 1063 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: is twelve five to the Bills. I think there are 1064 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: a few upsets somewhere in the agenda. Okay, twelve win team, 1065 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: all right, I respect that, But good point about Trubisky there, Judy, 1066 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: thanks for the call that would fit under the other category. Absolutely. 1067 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you do a lot worse than Mitchell Trubisky 1068 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: as your backup quarterback? Are you kidding me? And I 1069 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: think they pitched it to him perfectly. This is a 1070 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: guy who was clearly disappointed and how things were handled 1071 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: in Chicago, go figure, and did not like how the 1072 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: quarterback position in terms of who was starting was determined 1073 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: week to week there last year when he had a 1074 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: dan good season statistically, I think he completed sixty seven 1075 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: percent of his passes. He was better than two to 1076 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: one touchdowns to interceptions, and I think he had a 1077 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: passer rating in the nineties. That's your backup quarterback. Hello, 1078 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: there were eight teams in the line trying to sign 1079 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: him and you knew. And think about this, Mitch Trubiski 1080 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: absolutely positively knows one hundred percent Josh Allen is going 1081 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback for seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty game. 1082 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: However many the Bills can play, Josh is the guy. 1083 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: But he's still signed here and the reason is it's 1084 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: a one year deal. Is a chance for him to 1085 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: re emerge next offseason in an expanded cap situation with 1086 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: a system under his belt that has been proved even successful, 1087 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: with a coaching staff that is that has developed an 1088 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: MVP caliber quarterback from a guy who was a punchline 1089 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: into an MVP and Trubisky is going to be in 1090 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: the midst of all of that atmosphere and that environment, 1091 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: and it's going to be really good for him, and 1092 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: he knew it. I think it's a really wise decision, 1093 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: not only for Mitch but his representation as well, because 1094 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: he's going to be right back on the market after 1095 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: this year. Yes, he will be right back out there 1096 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: and he's going to earn a really good dollar. And 1097 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: that is how the Bills pitched him and his agent 1098 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,919 Speaker 1: in free agency. Hey, this is a one year, take 1099 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a breath season for you. It's an opportunity for you 1100 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: to hit the reset button on your career and then 1101 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: get back into the market when there's more money to 1102 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: be spent by NFL clubs. And you're going to be 1103 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: in a good position after getting good tutelage from the 1104 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: guy that just developed Josh Allen into a near MVP candid. 1105 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: And I would say this too, under certain circumstances, we've 1106 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: got this gudge, we're not And to Judy's point, Josh 1107 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna have a target. If the Bills come out and 1108 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: they're twenty four points up in the second half, Mitch, 1109 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you some snaps. Yeah, and we and 1110 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: we probably if you get in there, it's not gonna 1111 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: beat to kneel down. We're gonna let you run the 1112 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: offense a little bit, get and stay sharp. We're gonna 1113 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: give you a chance to get some some snaps on film. Hey, 1114 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: what Matt Barkley did in week seventeen exactly. I'm not 1115 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,919 Speaker 1: saying it's gonna happen nine times, but it may happen 1116 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: a couple and he's he's not going to be languishing 1117 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,439 Speaker 1: over there, and he will be able to show people 1118 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: what he can do with some players and a good 1119 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 1: offense around him. And if he comes out and plays 1120 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: like Matt Barkley did, that's good for him, really good. 1121 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: Just to give everybody the exact statistics on his season 1122 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: last year, nine starts, record of six and three, sixteen touchdowns, 1123 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 1: eight picks completed, sixty seven percent of his path had 1124 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: a passer rating of ninety three and a half, got 1125 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown as well. I think he ran about 1126 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: thirty three times for one hundred and ninety five yards, yes, 1127 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and one rushing touchdown. Sixty seven percent completion percentage For 1128 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback, I mean man, that's as a starter. 1129 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Bring it on, that's an upgrade. He's got a winning 1130 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: record as a starter in Chicago, in Chicago where quarterbacks 1131 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: go to die, twenty nine and twenty one career record 1132 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: with the Bears. So yeah, good point by Judy, and 1133 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: definitely that one goes in the other category and it's 1134 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: an upgrade. So as much as we are all about it, 1135 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: we were in an earlier segment of the show, we 1136 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: were going all in on Matt Barkley, would we like it? 1137 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: And most of his contributions were intangible. You know, they're 1138 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: getting Josh Ready, which is what a backup quarterback does. 1139 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: But getting Josh Ready, how upting him on the sidelines, 1140 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: being an extra voice that Josh could have a different 1141 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: kind of conversation with rather than Brian Dayble. All that 1142 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: stuff goes in the bag. And that's what Barkley brought 1143 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: to the table. But Mitch Trubisky in a year, like 1144 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Judy said, when you're trying to make a run, there 1145 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: is no two ways about it. The Bills are trying 1146 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: to make a run deep into the playoffs, to the 1147 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 1: championship game, to the super Bowl. All of that is 1148 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: on the table. You can't take a step backwards if 1149 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 1: Josh tweaks an ankle for two weeks. Yeah, you've got 1150 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: to have a guy that can hold down the fort 1151 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and give you a chance. Trubisky is a guy that's 1152 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 1: better at that, probably than Barkley is proven anyway. Yeah, 1153 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Nick on the tweet sheet says, I think the biggest 1154 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: decision was their choice not to invest a lot of 1155 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: capital in our second cornerback position, either via free agency 1156 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 1: or an early round draft choice. Levi is decent, and 1157 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Dane and wild Goose may develop into stars for all 1158 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: we know, but I wish we had more certainty at 1159 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: CB two. It's a valid concern because there's a lot 1160 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: of unknown There are a lot of unknowns there beyond 1161 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace. Levi Wallace is a pretty certain commodity, right, Well, 1162 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: that's why I said beyond Levi, and I think you're 1163 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,919 Speaker 1: not gonna get any more than that on any team 1164 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You got a three year starter who 1165 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: has held it down and got you. You've been to 1166 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: the player, you won thirteen games with him last year, 1167 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: and he's exactly the type of guy you want mentally, 1168 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 1: and maybe he's deficient physically doesn't tick all the boy 1169 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: not fast enough, not physical enough, whatever. But the guy 1170 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: has been impossible to replace. I mean, I can't. I 1171 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: keep getting back to that. They've tried everything except short 1172 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: of the high draft, short of draft and tradevious White. Again. Yeah, 1173 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: they've tried. They and by the way, they did bring 1174 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: in Kevin Johnson, who was picked every bit as high 1175 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 1: as tradevious White. He was a former first round draft. Yes, 1176 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 1: he couldn't get him off the field. Josh Norman couldn't 1177 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 1: get him off the field. Dane Jackson couldn't get him 1178 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: off the field. E J. Gaines couldn't get him off 1179 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the field. And was the other guy who's the guy 1180 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 1: that retired at halftime, Vante Davis couldn't get him off 1181 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,919 Speaker 1: the field. So you can say what you want about 1182 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the uncertainty at cornerback, too, I think you're pretty certain 1183 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 1: about what you got now. He may be not at 1184 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: a level that you wish he was. I get it, 1185 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: but man, oh man, he's no slouch. I'll tell you this. 1186 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: There'd be a lot of teams when you bring him in. 1187 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: They wouldn't even have to try hard to sell how 1188 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 1: good a signing he was. He's a three year, starter 1189 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: for a team that's been the playoffs two of those 1190 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: three years that this guy can go. He's been in deep, 1191 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: he's made plays in playoff games. He's a starter for 1192 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: a team that was in the AFC Championship for sixteen 1193 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 1: games that season. That's an easy sell to any and 1194 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: base except the one he's playing in. So I'm not 1195 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: saying I'm thinking Levi Wallace is gonna have a bust 1196 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: out season. Be all pro. I am not panicking at all. Well, 1197 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 1: you can't have superstars at every single position. You don't 1198 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: you have If you have serviceable, dependable players, and you 1199 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: have enough stars, you can still win a lot of games, 1200 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: as evidence is as a fifteen wins team last year. Yeah, 1201 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: and I and listen, you're the continuity is there for 1202 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace. He knows the system. He's also a guy 1203 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: who continues to try and try and try to get 1204 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: better and better and better. He's got he's got a 1205 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: growth mindset. He's everything they want him to be, and 1206 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 1: not for nothing. He's dirt, cheap, and he gives you 1207 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: that level of play and dependability, and he's dirt and 1208 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 1: he knows how to play off. All the other guys 1209 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: on the back end because he's played with him the 1210 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 1: last three years. Greg on the tweet, Chet says, is 1211 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 1: there anyone else that thinks they haven't done enough to 1212 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: improve their roster from last season? Yes, they're a good team, 1213 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: but in my humble opinion, they still aren't on the 1214 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: level of a Case or a Tampa Bay. I think 1215 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Steve would respectfully disagree and essentially say they just got 1216 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to play better when they play him, as he so 1217 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: eloquently stated earlier in the show today and has done 1218 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 1: several times over on previous editions of this program. Yeah, 1219 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,560 Speaker 1: don't get me started again. Go back, Yeah, listen to 1220 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: the podcast, rewind a half an hour you'll get my 1221 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: opinion on that half an hour ago. Eli says, I'll 1222 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: say keeping the roster almost intact is the biggest decision 1223 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: made this offseason. Continuity is very important as players can 1224 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 1: perform better. They have been playing together for a couple 1225 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,719 Speaker 1: of seasons now, which shows with the performance on the field. 1226 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: They added key pieces to the roster on both sides. 1227 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 1: But c should be the answer, which was the choice of, 1228 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: you know, keeping the roster. It's hard to argue with 1229 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 1: bringing back a largely intact group that won fifteen games 1230 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: the year before and could have won sixteen except for 1231 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: a hail Murray. I mean, it's a it is. They 1232 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: had one swoon in the Week five and six when 1233 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: they didn't know who or when they were playing. They 1234 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: showed up out of nowhere. And then they played the 1235 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 1: team that was in the Super Bowl the year two years, 1236 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the year before, and this year. It's been the last 1237 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 1: three championship games. They lost by ten to that team 1238 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: on a rainy night on Monday Night football. This team 1239 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: is all this team is. They're loaded for bear. They've 1240 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,799 Speaker 1: got a fantastic roster, they got a great coaching staff, 1241 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: they've got some continuity. It is absolutely all systems go. 1242 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: There's no team in the NFL Tampa Bay, Kansas City, 1243 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Baltimore, Cleveland, no team in the NFL that 1244 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: this team will walk away from and not feel like 1245 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 1: they've got a chance of winning. Tell me how much 1246 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: of a revenge factor exists for the Week six game 1247 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night Tennessee because of what went down last year there, 1248 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 1: with all the circumstances, will be a little bit of that. Yeah, 1249 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: no question about it. All the teams that beat you 1250 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: last year that put a blemish on your record a little, 1251 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: but you know, they handed it to him in that 1252 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: game and part of the reason why, but yeah, that 1253 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: was their Conker. That was the entire reason why they 1254 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: didn't They didn't know they were gonna play the game 1255 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: until thirty six hours before they had to get on 1256 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: a no, thirty six hours before they ticked it off. 1257 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 1: And you know they know, and they knew twelve hours 1258 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: before they got on a plane. That's why they lost 1259 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 1: the game. And not Tennessee's a good team, but their 1260 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 1: defense last year, the Bills would the Bills should have 1261 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,560 Speaker 1: carved those guys up and they would have, on a 1262 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: full week of getting ready know when they were gonna 1263 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: play him. And you can say, well, they knew it 1264 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: was gonna no. I mean, they had to start game 1265 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 1: planning for Kansas City during the latter stages of their 1266 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee preparation and because they thought they were gonna play 1267 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Then they got a reschedule, they said, well, 1268 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna play it, but we're gonna do this, and 1269 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: they've messed with the schedule again. Then they said, we're 1270 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna tell you Sunday night who you're playing, and wear 1271 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 1: are You're sitting there on your hands not knowing what 1272 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 1: to do. YEA. And for a player, an NFL player, 1273 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 1: it's like a big mind game you need. It's a routine. 1274 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: And by the time you get to the seventh day 1275 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 1: of that week, when you're on game day, you have 1276 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,600 Speaker 1: prepared yourself day by day by day by day to 1277 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're gonna stand up against and play 1278 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: against on Sunday. Complete clarity all week, crystal clear, what 1279 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 1: you gotta get done. You give them twenty four thirty 1280 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: six hours notice. On a team like Tennessee, who's just 1281 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the opposite of that Tennessee, they were either playing they 1282 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 1: were not playing. They were they were leaping and bounding 1283 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 1: through a grass covered meadow, throwing flower pedals out. They 1284 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 1: were so happy, they were so filling joy and felt 1285 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: so freedom bad. Nope, they were not supposed to eat 1286 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: and play the game, let alone win it. They had 1287 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 1: no pressure, just they they cut loose and play baby, 1288 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,600 Speaker 1: let's go. And they're playing against a team that a 1289 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: didn't want to be there, didn't know they were going 1290 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: to be there, and wanted no part of that game. 1291 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: You just put an image in my head with that 1292 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: description of like Mike Vrabel and Taylor Lawan tiptoeing through 1293 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: the tulips there. And I can understand too. I've seen 1294 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: it those guys in Tennessee, and tip your hat to 1295 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 1: him because it putting. They put together a phenomenal effort 1296 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: without ever looking at each other in the face, all remote, 1297 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: no practice. They got in the building once or twice 1298 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: for a walk through. Now they rallied around being public 1299 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 1: enemy number one and claimed that they were being hated on, 1300 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 1: and they were yeah, you don't have to sure, cod 1301 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 1: those guys were public enemy number one in the NFL 1302 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 1: and they kind of overcame that. Good for them. We 1303 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back, 1304 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: more of your comments on the tweet sheet. And we're 1305 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: about a half hour away from being joined by NFL Networks. 1306 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 1: James Palmer be joining us on the show here to 1307 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 1: talk quarterbacks, talk fifty year and then contract extensions for 1308 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen quarterback class. So we look forward to 1309 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: that conversation about thirty minutes from now here on One 1310 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1311 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 1: I'll go back to One Bills Live Chris Brown Steve 1312 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: task with you. A second half of the show underway 1313 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: here on Thursday, and we're getting your comments on the 1314 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: tweet sheet right now about what you feel was the 1315 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: biggest offseason decision made by the club so far. Choices 1316 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 1: are there for you at one bills Live on Twitter 1317 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 1: and that's where we're headed now to get more of 1318 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 1: your thoughts from Seth pass Rush editions will help this 1319 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 1: year and for years to come. Two more guys on 1320 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: rookie deals while we work out how to ink major 1321 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 1: deals for seventeen and forty nine down the road helps immensely. 1322 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: Defensive line should be much improved with starback regardless, but 1323 01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 1: I think Greg Russo and Boogie Basham will packed quickly. 1324 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about Rousseau and Basham, Steve, is right now, 1325 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, I think you might be able 1326 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: to make the argument that Boogie Basham may help you 1327 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 1: sooner because many were of the opinion in the scouting 1328 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: community that Basham has the higher floor coming in the 1329 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: door and that Rousseau is the more of the raw 1330 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 1: talent with the higher ceiling. And that's not to say 1331 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: who's going to be a better player, but in terms 1332 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 1: of helping right now, Basham's experience and all of that stuff. 1333 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking what I think. Basham played over 1334 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,559 Speaker 1: forty games in his college career, but so played in fifteen. 1335 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah he had. He had the season two years ago 1336 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: before he had fifteen and a half sacks. I mean, 1337 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: the guy was all over it. So he was crushing people. 1338 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 1: And if he had had that year, And if he 1339 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 1: would have come out last year, if he'd been old 1340 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: enough to come out last year and not gone back 1341 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and opted out of all that stuff, he would have 1342 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: been a top ten pick with a fifteen and a 1343 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: half sack season, he would have been in nineteen and 1344 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: a half tackles for loss. Don't right that he was. 1345 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 1: He was all over it. So Rousseau is gonna bring 1346 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 1: something to the table and he's gonna be productive. But 1347 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 1: you're right, Basham seems to be more skilled and have 1348 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: better technique. When guys who know that stuff watch, that's 1349 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 1: what you hear from them. Basham's got some stuff going 1350 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: for him. That's they're going to help him. More polished, Yeah, 1351 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: more polished, and and certainly you can see two that 1352 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:33,719 Speaker 1: in college at the college level, big raw athlete guys 1353 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:38,679 Speaker 1: tend to excel because every so often they're going against 1354 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 1: an engineering student over there, right instead of over right. 1355 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it is. They're going against a 1356 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: guy that can't play, you know, when you're playing you know, 1357 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 1: East Northwest, nowhere state so and not saying he did 1358 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 1: that at university in Miami, but nevertheless, that's what you're 1359 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 1: looking at. A guy like Rousseau could really could really 1360 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 1: crush it in college against lesser athletes because he was 1361 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: so gifted. Bash him. He looked like a pro out there, 1362 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: not not that he like was making him look like 1363 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,759 Speaker 1: college students, but he He's technique was pro. His stance 1364 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: was pro, his get off, his pro his hand us, 1365 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 1: his pro hand placement is pro that kind of stuff. 1366 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: And that's so you see. But I don't know Rousseau 1367 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 1: so gifted. He could be on the fast track, right, 1368 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. But they're both excellent picks. And I 1369 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 1: think we're gonna talk about this at one point, but 1370 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 1: embedded is coming out tonight at seven pm. Social media 1371 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,759 Speaker 1: stuff on YouTube, The conversation that Brandon Bean, Joe Shane, 1372 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott have about bash him, right before they 1373 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: make that pick is really interesting, and they for about 1374 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 1: six or eight picks, they were waiting on their guy. 1375 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,799 Speaker 1: They did not think Basham was gonna get there because 1376 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 1: they thought that highly of it, and it sounded it 1377 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: certainly sounded this way. I don't know if it's true, 1378 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 1: but it sounded like he was the only guy left 1379 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 1: for them worth picking at that spot on their board. 1380 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: He was the only name because if he wasn't there, 1381 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 1: they're trave out. Then Joe Shane and embedded. It's on 1382 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,800 Speaker 1: the phone with an unnamed team saying, if our guy's 1383 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: not gonna get there, so we're gonna trade back. If 1384 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: he's there, we'll do it. And he says, hey, wait, 1385 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,719 Speaker 1: our guys are on the guys. Oh, our guys there. Sorry, 1386 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 1: man boop hangs up. So they were they did not 1387 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 1: believe he was gonna make it, and so that all 1388 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 1: that stuff is interesting. You're gonna see it on embedded tonight. 1389 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:44,040 Speaker 1: Go to Bill's YouTube channel, um Facebook, Facebook, Facebook page, 1390 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 1: and also the Buffalo Bills dot com and embedded tonight 1391 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 1: seven pm. It's the Brownie and I have obviously seen it, 1392 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 1: so it's it's good. It's you know. Michelle Girardi Production 1393 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 1: they knock it out of the park. I mean, it's done, 1394 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 1: it's polished. It's such a good it's such a good program. 1395 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: Uh so you're you'll enjoy it if you're a Bills fan, 1396 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: and you know most of our listeners obviously are. It's 1397 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, i'd like to watch it again. 1398 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and rewatch it because there's some 1399 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: stuff in there. It's all a little nuggets, a ton 1400 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: of stuff in the draft room on the day of 1401 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,599 Speaker 1: live as it happened. Certainly it's edited out other things 1402 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: of it, but there's some stuff in there that I mean, 1403 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 1: I said it yesterday. As soon as who was it? 1404 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: Who wasn't picked? Twenty ninth? Was it? Eric Stokes? Yeah? 1405 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 1: It was a corner by the packers, all right, the packers. 1406 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 1: It was the Saints, the packers and the packers pick 1407 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes, Georgia Brandon Bean turns around, points, says Carl Rousseau. 1408 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,560 Speaker 1: As soon as he you know, I mean they like 1409 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 1: a Western Yeah, give me a double he goes. Get 1410 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: call roussel as soon as they say, and uh, pretty 1411 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: pretty interesting stuff. It's fun and something that you don't get. 1412 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 1: It can't to look at unless unless you watch imbedded 1413 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 1: tonight from Dinah on the tweet sheet, Preserving last season's 1414 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: roster gets my vote. The guys we kept all played 1415 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 1: a significant part in our success, the new editions and 1416 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: even the final roster or tbd And did you say 1417 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 1: so far? I reserve the right to change my mind 1418 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,639 Speaker 1: as training camp starts, but guess you need to talk 1419 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: about it now. So yeah, keeping the roster intact has 1420 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 1: been the popular choice today. I believe it was leading 1421 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,880 Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. Guys, can we pull the poll up? 1422 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm just curious where the voting is at right now. 1423 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 1: She also says what we said as well, we don't 1424 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: know how good Bashman Ross are going to be. Got tight. 1425 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Oh look at that. Preserving the roster took the lead 1426 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the pass rush editions of those two top draft picks. 1427 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 1: If those I mean, if those turned out to be 1428 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and JJ Watt, you know the poll is different. 1429 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: No pressure, right wow? So um, but yeah, we don't 1430 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,679 Speaker 1: know about those guys yet. We know about the roster 1431 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 1: from last year and man o'man was in a home run. 1432 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 1: So the more you can keep it intact, the better 1433 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 1: off you're gonna be. So I know you're I know 1434 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,160 Speaker 1: you're intrigued by fa Obada too, who kind of goes 1435 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 1: under the radar. People don't know him, you just by 1436 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 1: natural physical traits. I mean, yeah, he's one of those 1437 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 1: six six guys yea with thirty six inch arms. I 1438 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: mean that, you know, And I'll say this too, that's 1439 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 1: not right. Carlos Dunlap was a guy out there as 1440 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,640 Speaker 1: a free agent who's a big, tall leading like the 1441 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:32,800 Speaker 1: long these we got three of them. Yeah, Eesa Obada 1442 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 1: and we got three of those guys. That's and you know, 1443 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're all gonna have cruers like Carlos Dunlap. 1444 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,719 Speaker 1: He's a good player, but they're all they're all exactly 1445 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 1: those traits. Exactly those traits. Um when you line up 1446 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 1: against the Bills this year, I mean you're you're gonna 1447 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 1: be like, well, you're gonna be who are these guys 1448 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 1: and where did they grow them? Gosh, it's gonna be 1449 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,680 Speaker 1: four quarters of this. That's why I put size in 1450 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 1: the other category, because I mean, very quietly, they've added 1451 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: size to both sides of the ball. I mean, if 1452 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Jake Kumero is even your fifth receiver, it's another six five. 1453 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 1: Guy you're throwing out there on the field. Dawson Knox 1454 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 1: is six four, Gabe Davis is sixty three. Isaiah Hodgins 1455 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 1: if he has a role sixty three. I mean, speed 1456 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 1: may not matter if you got a bunch of trees 1457 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 1: running around out there catching footballs out of the sky. 1458 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: This just in the guy taking snaps his six five 1459 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,600 Speaker 1: two forty two as well. He's and he runs, He 1460 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: can outrun most of your defensive front seven. He may 1461 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 1: not have to do anything if he's got giant humans 1462 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 1: in front of him blocking. My only concern is can 1463 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 1: Josh c sounds so ridiculous only six five. I don't 1464 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 1: know if he can see over those guys there? You 1465 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: talking about playing up a round the rim in the NBA. Yeah, there, 1466 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 1: These guys are up around the crossbar in the NFL. 1467 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean there. It's gonna be fun to see and 1468 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting too. And you know, we always spend 1469 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff positive in sometimes outlandish fashion. But here's the thing. 1470 01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 1: If if all this size comes to fruition, all this 1471 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,640 Speaker 1: comes to fruition, and these guys do play like that, 1472 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,640 Speaker 1: do you how good will they have to play for 1473 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: the Bills to, like, say, Listen, we're gonna change a 1474 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 1: little bit of our philosophy because of how deep we 1475 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 1: are and how much talent we've got. We're gonna do 1476 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,599 Speaker 1: some things because Brian Dabole will do do anything. I mean, 1477 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 1: he's one of those creative guys, send guys in mode. 1478 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, right it's written down 1479 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: on the whiteboard outside justin Zimmer he's your guy. He 1480 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:53,440 Speaker 1: I've got high hopes for him. He can run. GPS 1481 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: clocked him at at and mph. I'm so I'm t 1482 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 1: he'll notice him. Not yet on film he's like, he says, 1483 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,800 Speaker 1: who's the sixties? Who's that sixty one guy? Sixty one 1484 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 1: guy chasing me down? It's a man. But that size, um, 1485 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: if it comes, you know, do they not throw it 1486 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the time, just because teams just cannot 1487 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 1: hold up against them. Is they're gonna Are they gonna 1488 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 1: meet a team that is a little light? You know? Yeah? 1489 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: Are they gonna meet a team that's one of these 1490 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, fast light teams like you know the Dick 1491 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: Giron days in Buffalo where everybody weighed two thirty and 1492 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: could run and ended up on r as a result. Yeah, 1493 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,639 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, you just it's it really 1494 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: is a it's so noticeable it is. I mean, they're 1495 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 1: all all football. Like I just say, they're all football. 1496 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: Teams are big, they're all big. I get it, okay, 1497 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 1: but man, oh man, this is a big football team 1498 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,799 Speaker 1: in a team in a league full of big guys. 1499 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,000 Speaker 1: This team is like, Wow, they're really big, you know. 1500 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Three h five fifty one eight five fifty two five fifty. 1501 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 1: Back to the phones we go, where we have Dave 1502 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,920 Speaker 1: and Rochester. Dave, what do you have for us? Welcome 1503 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Hey, guys, thank you. Yeah, I 1504 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: think I'm going to go with other I think Brian 1505 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 1: Dable was the biggest decision during the off season. And 1506 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,759 Speaker 1: I don't know all the details of the contract and everything, 1507 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,680 Speaker 1: but I'm sure that in the details something had to 1508 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 1: be worked out in retaining him. And the other thing 1509 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to say was who are you going to 1510 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 1: get as an offensive coordinator to replace him and keep 1511 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: the same offense and do as good of a job 1512 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 1: as he did making those play costs. I think Brian 1513 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 1: Dable was the biggest decision for this Bills team journey. Well, yeah, 1514 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, Dave. The reason we left 1515 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 1: that off, the off the table and the compuls because 1516 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,759 Speaker 1: that's not their decision to make. It was more good fortune, 1517 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 1: was more lucky than it was a decision. Of course, 1518 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 1: they would have loved to have kept him, but what 1519 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: they thought he was going to get a head coaching offer. 1520 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: That's why he was a finalist for the Chargers job. 1521 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,560 Speaker 1: So that's one thing. Another thing is a replacement for 1522 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: Brian Dable when he's gone. That to me is a 1523 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 1: really seriously tough question to answer, and I don't have 1524 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 1: any expertise in it, but I do know this, if 1525 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:22,120 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott will have a list of candidates at his 1526 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 1: disposal to interview, if Brian Dable does indeed get promoted 1527 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 1: to a head coaching job, or just leaves because he 1528 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 1: wants to be a head coach somewhere and they give 1529 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 1: him the job at USC or something, right, well, and 1530 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,760 Speaker 1: the tricky thing is you can say, all right, well, 1531 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 1: let's just promote from within. We'll elevate Ken Dorsey up 1532 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: to offensive coordinator and I'm sure he'd be more than qualified. 1533 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: But is he going to call it the way Brian 1534 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Dable calls it. Is he going to see the end 1535 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,720 Speaker 1: game adjustments that Brian Dable sees and make them accordingly 1536 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 1: everybody's different. Is he going to be a creative pre 1537 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 1: in in the preparation during the week he say to listen, 1538 01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 1: you know, if we tried this and we might work, 1539 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, if this motion in this set and this 1540 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 1: personnel might be different than you know now. But I 1541 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 1: will say this, he's been in the system, and he's 1542 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 1: watched brand Brian Dable, and he's been played a real 1543 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 1: important role absolutely in that in game adjustment as well. 1544 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 1: So maybe here we are back at continuity again, right, 1545 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 1: and maybe it is a big deal, uh to for 1546 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,599 Speaker 1: Sean McDermot to keep that continuity and let h Davis 1547 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Webb evolve into it, give him the shot at it 1548 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 1: from within and instead of putting a plugging a guy 1549 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 1: from over here, out of left field or off you know, 1550 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 1: across the country, pull him out of whatever organization he's with, 1551 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,759 Speaker 1: college or pro and plug him into your system. Maybe 1552 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,040 Speaker 1: you let your shift your system is in place. Just 1553 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 1: everybody moves up one notch and you start and you 1554 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,759 Speaker 1: throw a guy in at the bottom of that pyramid. 1555 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 1: You bring in a quality control coach. Your quality control 1556 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: coach becomes a full assistant coach or an assistant assistant coach. 1557 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 1: Your assistant assistant coach becomes your full assistant you know. 1558 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,080 Speaker 1: And this guy becomes a quarterback cup you know what 1559 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, and the and the quarterback coach moves 1560 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 1: into the offensive coordinator seat. That seems to me a 1561 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 1: little bit more continuity base could go that way, and 1562 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 1: we may be having that very conversation next year at 1563 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,560 Speaker 1: this time. Break time for us, Mike and Carthage, hang on, 1564 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 1: we'll get to you first after the break. Here on 1565 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,599 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collid of Health. It's Buffalo 1566 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Back to the phones we go as we 1567 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: head right to Mike and Carthage. Mike, what do you 1568 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on One Bills Live. Hey, high 1569 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: curs nice Steve. I really like what the last caller 1570 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,439 Speaker 1: we're saying about, Brian Table and where that conversation went 1571 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 1: with you know, promoting from within and everything. I think 1572 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,640 Speaker 1: that'll be something for the future to talk about, you know. 1573 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,960 Speaker 1: But as far as what the Bills did themselves, I 1574 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 1: agree with the previous callers and the continuity keeping as 1575 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,560 Speaker 1: many of the guys last year, you know, resigning everybody 1576 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 1: and then giving them competition. You know, I think we 1577 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: did a great job in the draft, and you know, 1578 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see a lot of the same guys 1579 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 1: from last year coming back and being on the field again. 1580 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, I hope to see Levi Wallace at the 1581 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 1: number two cornerback position. I I really like that guy. 1582 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure why every you know, a lot 1583 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 1: of fans are wanting to replace him. I think he's 1584 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, done a really good job. So all right, Yeah, 1585 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: I think the continuity of the keeping. You know, all 1586 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: them guys got a little chip on their shoulder from 1587 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 1: last year. They all got you know, a little motivation 1588 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 1: and hunger, and I think it'll be exciting to see 1589 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of them guys with with some additions. You know. Yeah, thanks, 1590 01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I agree, and listen, It's not like 1591 01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,679 Speaker 1: I keep going back to it. They didn't just hand 1592 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 1: lee By Wallace that job at cornerback two. He's had 1593 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,600 Speaker 1: to compete for that job every single year, just like 1594 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 1: everybody else has had to compete for their job, and 1595 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,600 Speaker 1: he keeps winning it. So we can say what we 1596 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 1: want and I think one reason people are down him 1597 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,360 Speaker 1: he got an All Pro at the other corner. Okay, 1598 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,680 Speaker 1: you've got two guys at safety that are phenomenal, and 1599 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,799 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the four guys in the secondary, 1600 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 1: well who else you're gonna look at? But also, and 1601 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,639 Speaker 1: also because of the situation in the secondary with all 1602 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: the other players that are there and the talent that 1603 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 1: they have, Levi gets targeted a lot. So you see 1604 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, a lot of balls going right 1605 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,880 Speaker 1: at him, and as a result, they catch some balls 1606 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,400 Speaker 1: on him. That doesn't mean he's not playing well. So 1607 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 1: for all of it, it's said about it, you know, 1608 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 1: and I get it. You know, they've they've been talking 1609 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,599 Speaker 1: about it for a long time, haven't able to get 1610 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 1: it done. As time they get it done, put some 1611 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 1: effort into it and all that stuff. He's gonna compete 1612 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 1: with two other guys already this year, three other guys 1613 01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 1: at this year at the cornerback two spot. We'll see 1614 01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 1: who stands up and comes out of there. I wouldn't 1615 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 1: bet against him at this point after everything he's been 1616 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:09,160 Speaker 1: through now, and I like Dan Jackson a lot. He 1617 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 1: showed some stuff, but he's got his own he's got 1618 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,920 Speaker 1: his own particularly size and physicality, or his problem and 1619 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 1: durability a little bit because of that. But Dan Jackson 1620 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,080 Speaker 1: played played well when he got snaps last year, So 1621 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see who stands up. But there's going 1622 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 1: to be a competition out at cornerback, in the second 1623 01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: cornerback spot, just like there is every place else. So 1624 01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 1: there you have it. I'm with you. I like the continuity. 1625 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they signed him back. He's 1626 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:41,000 Speaker 1: not making a ton of money, making good money, and 1627 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,840 Speaker 1: he can hit the market again next year. Speaking of continuity, Steve, 1628 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 1: we did spot our good friend alm Armando Salguero of 1629 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: the Miami Herald with a write up because apparently he 1630 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 1: has discovered that the Dolphins are installing a new playbook. 1631 01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,680 Speaker 1: We just talked to him a little over a week 1632 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,920 Speaker 1: ago on this very show, and I asked him, I said, 1633 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,960 Speaker 1: how is the offensive coordinator situation going to work in Miami? 1634 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 1: With two co offensive coordinators and Eric Studesville, former running 1635 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: backs coach of the Bills, and George Gotzi, the tight 1636 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,959 Speaker 1: ends coach. Both of them were promoted to co offensive coordinators. 1637 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 1: They're supposed to work together come up with a game 1638 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,360 Speaker 1: plan for every given week, and even their quarterbacks coach 1639 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Charlie Fry is going to have some say so you 1640 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,040 Speaker 1: know you you say okay, And Armando said, part of 1641 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,839 Speaker 1: the reason for that is because they're keeping chan Gailey's playbook. 1642 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,799 Speaker 1: These guys have worked within the scope of the offense, 1643 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,639 Speaker 1: so they'll just seamlessly keep that intact for the benefit 1644 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,639 Speaker 1: of Tuah and continuity. But Miles Gaskin, the running back 1645 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, apparently told reporters the playbook this year 1646 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,240 Speaker 1: is completely new. Yeah, what the hell is going on 1647 01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: down there? Yeah, so you've got George god seen running 1648 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,560 Speaker 1: backs coach Eric students Field putting in a brand new playbook. 1649 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,600 Speaker 1: And when Brian Flores said at the time when he 1650 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,280 Speaker 1: hired those two guys co offensive coordinators, he said, quote, 1651 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 1: I think continuity was a big thing as far as 1652 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 1: me making that decision. I think I wanted that for 1653 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 1: Tua and a really and really a lot of the 1654 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,560 Speaker 1: young offensive lineman, the young players we have offensively, I 1655 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,360 Speaker 1: felt like we had that as as well as the 1656 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,240 Speaker 1: acumen and the experience with George and Eric and the 1657 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of taking on that role. Again, this is really 1658 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,640 Speaker 1: kind of what terminology are we going to keep the 1659 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,600 Speaker 1: same versus not keep the same, And a lot of 1660 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 1: it is tied to what we feel as best for 1661 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the players and Tua specifically. End quote. Now they're saying 1662 01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 1: everything's new. Now, I get it, it's new, the plays 1663 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,720 Speaker 1: are new and all that, but the terminology is the same, 1664 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,960 Speaker 1: so you know there is some continuity. Plus, the guys 1665 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 1: that you're hearing it from are the same guys and 1666 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 1: they can put it into context. It's the third offense 1667 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,840 Speaker 1: in three years for Miami, I second in two years 1668 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 1: for Tua. I think the fact that one of your 1669 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:05,640 Speaker 1: players gods see not God seeking said quote, it's a 1670 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,280 Speaker 1: whole new playbook, pay not the same as last year's. 1671 01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,880 Speaker 1: But it's not, like I said, it's still early. We're 1672 01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,920 Speaker 1: still picking it up. I think everybody's open minded and 1673 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,640 Speaker 1: just kind of soaking it all in right now. When 1674 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,599 Speaker 1: they start changing the changing the verbiage, you may as 1675 01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:22,799 Speaker 1: well start playing volleyball. It's much different than last year's 1676 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,479 Speaker 1: direct quote from Miles gask in the starting running back. 1677 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing. When it's one thing to run a 1678 01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 1: different philosophy, but when you use the same words for 1679 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 1: the different philosophy, meaning you had words for doing some 1680 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,639 Speaker 1: of the stuff you're doing. You just start to expand 1681 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 1: on that. That's one thing. But when you change it 1682 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 1: and the verbiage is different and the language is different, 1683 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 1: that's a big thing. So I imagine there is some 1684 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 1: continuity there with the verbiage they're using and how they 1685 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: get to where they're going. But it sounds like a 1686 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,720 Speaker 1: philosophical change has taken place down there, and that's not continuity. 1687 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 1: What did I tell you after we talk to Armando? 1688 01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,760 Speaker 1: It sounds disastrous. I told you after we talked to 1689 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,719 Speaker 1: Armando that I'm not as worried about the Dolphins anymore 1690 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,719 Speaker 1: after talking to him. Now I'm even less worried because 1691 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,160 Speaker 1: how many times did we see the offensive scheme change 1692 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,840 Speaker 1: here over seventeen years, and how many playoffs birds did 1693 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 1: that generate? Zero? Have fun with that break time for 1694 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,439 Speaker 1: us when we come back. NFL Networks James Palmer will 1695 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 1: be joining us. He actually filled in on Good Morning 1696 01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Football this week a couple of times. We're going to 1697 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,880 Speaker 1: talk to him about that, as well as multi year 1698 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 1: contract extensions for the twenty eighteen quarterback draft class and 1699 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 1: who might be first in line to get one. Will 1700 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 1: address that when we return with James Palmer next on 1701 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,559 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo 1702 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all 1703 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,000 Speaker 1: over the field. Kind of unique. He was kind of 1704 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:06,599 Speaker 1: a dual role player for you. Stout Steve a blimp. 1705 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:13,560 Speaker 1: We're not even in the strategyre of normalcy here and 1706 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,479 Speaker 1: welcome to our number three on a Thursday of One 1707 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,439 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we 1708 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,679 Speaker 1: are happy to be joined at this time by NFL 1709 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:28,000 Speaker 1: Networks James Palmer. And if you paid attention to the 1710 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:33,240 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, you saw that James was stationed in Jacksonville 1711 01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:37,920 Speaker 1: as he was essentially embedded in North Florida to see 1712 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 1: how everything was going to shake out with the Jacksonville Jaguars. 1713 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 1: We knew what was going to happen in the first round, 1714 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 1: but then Travis et N joining his college teammate down there. So, James, 1715 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 1: is it true that all your colleagues call you Jimmy 1716 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 1: Palm Trees as a nickname? Is that true? Hey? Adams 1717 01:35:56,080 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 1: is really guys starting to try to push that JP 1718 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,519 Speaker 1: with everybody, But Kay has got a lot of you know, 1719 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 1: sway and all of a sudden, I've gotten this reputation 1720 01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,760 Speaker 1: as mister Palm Trees. But I'd like to say that 1721 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 1: is mostly because I've been taking these Florida assignments. Yeah, 1722 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 1: because I'm a giver. I mean I was down in 1723 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,240 Speaker 1: for all of the training camp that's thirty seven days straight, 1724 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,679 Speaker 1: and Airbnb during COVID last year about by myself tested 1725 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,800 Speaker 1: every day away from my family. That's extreme sacrifice. And 1726 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,200 Speaker 1: she's going about this like I'm, you know, some sort 1727 01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,280 Speaker 1: of guy on a beach, and yeah, I think she 1728 01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,800 Speaker 1: was trying to combine your Florida assignments with your last name, 1729 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, you know, yeah that I gets. 1730 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,400 Speaker 1: There's worse things to be called. I'll tell you that. Justice. 1731 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,720 Speaker 1: I actually don't mind it. That's the Disturbut we had 1732 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 1: an over under Good Morning Football Hoysterday when I hosted 1733 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 1: for the three hours and you guys know about three 1734 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:53,240 Speaker 1: hour shows. We had an over under it like fourteen 1735 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,280 Speaker 1: and we clawberd the over I mean we were just 1736 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't every two seconds time. Well, you were down 1737 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,120 Speaker 1: there in Jackonville and you watched the draft, everybody knew 1738 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,960 Speaker 1: it was gonna be Trevor Lawrence. What's the atmosphere like 1739 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:09,720 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville? Certainly they've it's got to feel like, all right, 1740 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 1: you know the bottom was last year. We are on 1741 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,599 Speaker 1: our way up and here's what it looks like. Now. 1742 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 1: What does that say? Yeah it is. It's been a remarkable, 1743 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, transformation over the last couple of months. And 1744 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to you mentioned Bett. 1745 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: I was there all week and talked to Herban Meyer 1746 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,760 Speaker 1: multiple times, shod Con the owner multiple times, and you know, 1747 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,640 Speaker 1: talking to Sean, you got a sense that, you know, 1748 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,679 Speaker 1: he really didn't undersell this at all with getting Irban Meyer, 1749 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,640 Speaker 1: with where they were with a number one pick in 1750 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,200 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, a quarterback prospect, it doesn't come around very often, right. 1751 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 1: The last one that most people compare him to is 1752 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, you know, about a decade ago, and everybody 1753 01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 1: I talked to you all, by the way, also kind 1754 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 1: of puts Luck just a little ahead of Trevor Lawrence 1755 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,679 Speaker 1: around the league in terms of coming out as a prospect. 1756 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,639 Speaker 1: We'll see how Trevor plays. But Sean did not downplay 1757 01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 1: any of this like he's like, this is an epic 1758 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: week for us. This is the biggest really moment outside 1759 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: of and we joked his marriage and proposing to his 1760 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,080 Speaker 1: wife of his life. That's how much he really thinks 1761 01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,439 Speaker 1: of this transformation. And a lot of it falls on 1762 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, which you know I talked to Urban at 1763 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 1: length about there's a lot on his shoulders, right, Josh 1764 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,880 Speaker 1: has a lot on his shoulders in Buffalo. This is 1765 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,000 Speaker 1: maybe even more than that. I mean, this is an 1766 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,919 Speaker 1: organization that's never one. You know, since they've become a franchise, 1767 01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,600 Speaker 1: they've lost more games than anybody. And his space is 1768 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,559 Speaker 1: going to be on every billboard. He is the savior, 1769 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,720 Speaker 1: and that was a big part Urban told me of 1770 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 1: their evaluation process of him if he can mentally handle 1771 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 1: all of this pressure, and they believe he can, and 1772 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,200 Speaker 1: then Urban's the other side of it. And I talked 1773 01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: to a couple of veterans throughout the week that we're 1774 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,560 Speaker 1: there working out, and they're like, man, the vibe is 1775 01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,880 Speaker 1: just completely different. You know, it's no longer finding out 1776 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 1: who our quarterback is going to be on Saturday, which 1777 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 1: DJ Shark joked to me about, or you know, I've 1778 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,560 Speaker 1: caught balls from six different quarterbacks and I'm in my 1779 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 1: third NFL season, Like this is something that shouldn't go on. 1780 01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,160 Speaker 1: But the mentality of winning that Urban's trying to bring 1781 01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,759 Speaker 1: there is really what you could see, you know, foremost 1782 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 1: over anything, right. I mean, the reputation is, you know, unquestioned. 1783 01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to debate that for a second. I 1784 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,800 Speaker 1: mean he comes in and he's well known in that 1785 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,720 Speaker 1: part of the country from his Florida days, so you 1786 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:18,599 Speaker 1: know where he won a couple of national titles. Oh 1787 01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 1: by the way, So obviously there's huge name cache built 1788 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,160 Speaker 1: in respect and benefit of the doubt because of that resume. 1789 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that Urban Meyer is entering the pro 1790 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 1: ranks at the right time as more and more we 1791 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,720 Speaker 1: are seeing in the NFL game resemble the college game. 1792 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,080 Speaker 1: Is the timing good here? For Urban timing is perfect, 1793 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,600 Speaker 1: and not just when he's coming in, it's the situation 1794 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,880 Speaker 1: that he's coming into. I don't think you could come 1795 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,800 Speaker 1: into a better situation. Sean Kan actually joked with me, 1796 01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 1: is like, I didn't realize how good this job opening 1797 01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,240 Speaker 1: was till I started getting phone calls from people around 1798 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: the league being interested in this job. You look at 1799 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,840 Speaker 1: you have the number one pick with the quarterback we 1800 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,600 Speaker 1: all knew they were going to take in such a 1801 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,960 Speaker 1: generational talent. The cap space that they had was through 1802 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,200 Speaker 1: the roof. And then the other part of it is 1803 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,200 Speaker 1: they really weren't a one in fifteen roster. If you 1804 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 1: go back and watch their games, a lot of them 1805 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 1: were mismanaged at the end of the end of the 1806 01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 1: game or one score games they lost. I mean this 1807 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,760 Speaker 1: roster honestly like those receivers. I was talking to Jokeer, like, 1808 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 1: we could have won like eight games. So everything kind 1809 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,400 Speaker 1: of lines up to be in a very very good 1810 01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,559 Speaker 1: situation for urban Meyer. And I think the way he's 1811 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,519 Speaker 1: put his staff together also kind of goes with what 1812 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,840 Speaker 1: you're asking, right, because he's got a guy like Darryl 1813 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,160 Speaker 1: Bello come in who's worked with Russell Wilson at the 1814 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,479 Speaker 1: beginning of his career. Perfect choice for an offensive coordinator 1815 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: to come in and work with Trevor Lawrence. He got 1816 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 1: Russ right where he needed to be so early in 1817 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: his career. But then you still have like Charlie Strong 1818 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,679 Speaker 1: and those ties to the college game. And you mentioned 1819 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,880 Speaker 1: the perfect time think about this. This was an offseason 1820 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,160 Speaker 1: where we had no combine, we had no visits, knowledge 1821 01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:00,760 Speaker 1: about college prospects. Was Thin who has more knowledge about 1822 01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 1: college prospects than urban Meyer and probably the guys who 1823 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,920 Speaker 1: had connection on his staff. I mean, Anthony Schlegel comes 1824 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 1: in as their strength and conditioning guy. He's been with 1825 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 1: Ohio State for the last seven years. You don't think 1826 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,719 Speaker 1: that fraternity of strength and conditioning coaches in the college 1827 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,400 Speaker 1: game that he has the rolodex to flip through are 1828 01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,559 Speaker 1: going to shoot him straight about prospects in a time 1829 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,240 Speaker 1: when everybody's searching for information. So I think this was 1830 01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,200 Speaker 1: the perfect transition in a draft with so many questions 1831 01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,559 Speaker 1: involving prospects. Well, we here in Buffalo have been down 1832 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,759 Speaker 1: the road of searching for a quarterback and they've obviously 1833 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,920 Speaker 1: found their guy, and Josh Alleny came out of the 1834 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft along with four other guys. You've got 1835 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,800 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson already been an MVP, Josh who was runner 1836 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,479 Speaker 1: up in the MVP last year, and Sam Darnold who's 1837 01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,719 Speaker 1: in a new refurbished Carolina Panthers organization, and Baker Mayfield 1838 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,479 Speaker 1: who got the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs. Four guys 1839 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,360 Speaker 1: who seemed it. With the exception of Darnold, seemed to 1840 01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,760 Speaker 1: have found their level where their team is right now. 1841 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,840 Speaker 1: Of these four guys, I mean they all I'm you know, 1842 01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,759 Speaker 1: they got their options picked up. Who signs their first 1843 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 1: and what do you think those deals will look like? Well, 1844 01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:10,479 Speaker 1: we're not talking Josh Rosen, not today. Okay, okay, we 1845 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 1: can do a second on John. We can do a 1846 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,519 Speaker 1: segment on Josh next time. I much. But let's go through. 1847 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,320 Speaker 1: Let's go through the guys, and this is just kind 1848 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,360 Speaker 1: of putting together what makes sense. Right, Let's go with 1849 01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,320 Speaker 1: the first one, and that's the guy in Buffalo and 1850 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,919 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I mean, you would say there's the fewest 1851 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,880 Speaker 1: amount of question marks surrounding Josh Allen in what you 1852 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 1: need answered if you're one paying the bill of what's 1853 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,320 Speaker 1: probably going to be the next forty million dollars a 1854 01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 1: year quarterback, right, because you've seen the progression, you've seen 1855 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,559 Speaker 1: the patients, you've seen the growth, and it's the style 1856 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:44,559 Speaker 1: of quarterback play with no questions on the durability. Really yes, 1857 01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 1: the size the arm. You've seen the completion percentage go 1858 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,000 Speaker 1: up every year and then catapult in year three. You're 1859 01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,679 Speaker 1: seeing a natural aggression of becoming one of the best 1860 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,639 Speaker 1: players in all of football, fewer question marks. I would 1861 01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,320 Speaker 1: assume a deal has a greater chance of getting done sooner. 1862 01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Let's go to the probably best player out 1863 01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,160 Speaker 1: of that group. Well, he plays the position a little 1864 01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,800 Speaker 1: bit differently, and there's still the thought of can you 1865 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 1: be a runner and can you be a thrower? Well, 1866 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,080 Speaker 1: he's proven that you can be and you can complete 1867 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,800 Speaker 1: a lot of passes doing it, but he does it 1868 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: a little bit differently, and so I think that gives 1869 01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,120 Speaker 1: you a little bit more of a hesitation. I think 1870 01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,439 Speaker 1: a deal gets done for sure. I just think maybe 1871 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,640 Speaker 1: that's probably the one that happens next with Baker. I 1872 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,439 Speaker 1: just think they want to see what happens in this 1873 01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 1: next twenty twenty one season, because really what you're banking 1874 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,519 Speaker 1: on is those last eight games kind of right in 1875 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's system, where he threw fifteen touchdowns to two picks. 1876 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 1: You're seeing him get comfortable in a system that's designed 1877 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 1: for him. I would think the Hasms would like to 1878 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,600 Speaker 1: see another year of that. But from my understanding is 1879 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,879 Speaker 1: they think an extensions happening in ownership believes in extensions 1880 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,559 Speaker 1: happening when that happens. That's kind of up in the air. 1881 01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:53,920 Speaker 1: He has a greater chance of maybe being after this 1882 01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,559 Speaker 1: year as opposed to this potentially this offseason. And then 1883 01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold obviously has a lot to prove. If you 1884 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,080 Speaker 1: go and look at what Caroline and Denver did with 1885 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 1: back to back picks there, they both had a shot 1886 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 1: at Justin Fields. Both liked him, to my understanding, a lot, 1887 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,679 Speaker 1: but both of them passed. It's not because Sam Darnold's great. 1888 01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,760 Speaker 1: I think they're leaving their options open as well as 1889 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 1: there could be some quarterbacks in the next year available, 1890 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,600 Speaker 1: so I think his spot is a little bit up 1891 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,599 Speaker 1: in the air. And then again we'll get to Josh 1892 01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 1: next show. So yeah, Josh Rosen Right, with respect to 1893 01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:31,400 Speaker 1: Josh Baker and Lamar James, what we have here is 1894 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:35,320 Speaker 1: a market that we know is only going up with 1895 01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,000 Speaker 1: each big quarterback deal that happens. Do you think that 1896 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,960 Speaker 1: any one of those clubs would feel compelled to be 1897 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,479 Speaker 1: the first to get a guy to sign on the 1898 01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 1: dotted line so as not to be on the back 1899 01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:53,000 Speaker 1: end of an escalating market. And that's the cat and 1900 01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,599 Speaker 1: mouse game right of this, Because I mean, if you're 1901 01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 1: the Bills, you probably have the best of the bunch, 1902 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 1: even though he doesn't have an MVP. I think we 1903 01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,879 Speaker 1: all can probably agree if you look at the trajectory 1904 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,600 Speaker 1: of the next decade, you probably have the best of 1905 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,560 Speaker 1: the group, and so probably Judge's representations going, well, we 1906 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 1: want the biggest out of all of this. Then, but 1907 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,360 Speaker 1: at all three of them are looking at the Cowboys 1908 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,400 Speaker 1: situation that recently went down, right and getting it pushed 1909 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,599 Speaker 1: down the road is something the Cowboys should have never 1910 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:22,880 Speaker 1: done and showed the rest of the league and what 1911 01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 1: ended up happening with Dak Prescott. So I do think 1912 01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:29,960 Speaker 1: getting a deal done sooner is probably more advantageous for 1913 01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 1: the clubs, and then the players are seeing what happened 1914 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,559 Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. Obviously nobody wants to go tag tag 1915 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,840 Speaker 1: tag whatever went down, But at the same time, I 1916 01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,160 Speaker 1: do think you have to be in a situation to 1917 01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,600 Speaker 1: where you go, we have the best player out of 1918 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,280 Speaker 1: the group. We have a guy that is a generational 1919 01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 1: talent that's going to be there. The number does keep 1920 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,439 Speaker 1: going up. The Mahomes situation as an outlier, that contract 1921 01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,360 Speaker 1: is something we're probably not going to see from any 1922 01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:58,040 Speaker 1: of these other ones. But yeah, getting something done sooner 1923 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,160 Speaker 1: is probably better for the club, and trying to wait 1924 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,680 Speaker 1: just a little bit to see if you can get 1925 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,360 Speaker 1: a gauge and where things are with the other two 1926 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,600 Speaker 1: is probably what the agents are doing. Taking that a 1927 01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 1: step further though, James, you know, you mentioned the Mahomes deal, 1928 01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,760 Speaker 1: and it is unique, there is no question about that. 1929 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 1: Hearing gms in the league, including Brandon being here already 1930 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:21,160 Speaker 1: talking about not having a whole lot of confidence in 1931 01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,840 Speaker 1: the cap even getting to where it was last year 1932 01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:32,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, might that at least make the 1933 01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 1: gms in this league maybe try to just broach the 1934 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,519 Speaker 1: subject of a deal being structured that way because of 1935 01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:43,760 Speaker 1: where the cap is going to be in twenty twenty two. 1936 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure everybody feels by twenty twenty three 1937 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 1: the new media deals kick in and the cap gets 1938 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,840 Speaker 1: back to where they're used to seeing it with the 1939 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 1: increases they're used to seeing as well. But in twenty 1940 01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty two, it's not sounding like that's going to be 1941 01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 1: the case. I Mean, we have GM saying we may 1942 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,360 Speaker 1: not even get to two hundred, you know, for twenty 1943 01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,880 Speaker 1: twenty two. So how much does that open the door 1944 01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:09,639 Speaker 1: for GMS to at least propose to these quarterbacks agents, Hey, 1945 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:14,519 Speaker 1: can we at least discuss getting unique or creative much 1946 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:19,280 Speaker 1: the way the Chiefs did. Yeah, those conversations are all happening, 1947 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,800 Speaker 1: but the way it goes back and forth is and 1948 01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:22,720 Speaker 1: also you know, some of those are going, well, let's 1949 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,360 Speaker 1: go longer so we can push some of the majority 1950 01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,560 Speaker 1: of your money and we're gonna give you guarantees we 1951 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,680 Speaker 1: want you to be our quarterback to when we have 1952 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,080 Speaker 1: a larger portion of a salary cap to give you. 1953 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the number is higher because you're mentioning what's 1954 01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:37,240 Speaker 1: happened in the next two years, and that's accurate. But 1955 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, what all these players, a lot 1956 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,080 Speaker 1: of them outside of Patrick Mahomes our fighting is I 1957 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,479 Speaker 1: want a new opportunity for a contract around the age 1958 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,519 Speaker 1: of thirty, not on the wrong side of thirty, right, 1959 01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,200 Speaker 1: And most of these guys, I think Josh is going 1960 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,360 Speaker 1: to be twenty five in May. How do I know that? 1961 01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,760 Speaker 1: I think that's right tomorrow? Yeah? Is it tomorrow? It's 1962 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: it's right around here, it's late May. Yeah. Yeah, we're 1963 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 1: super sensitive to this kind of stuff here, I think, Yeah, 1964 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him to send me a text about 1965 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,640 Speaker 1: the actual day of his birthday and how do you 1966 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,720 Speaker 1: know this tomorrow? But like all these guys are, like 1967 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,680 Speaker 1: you know that twenty five range, they're gonna want a 1968 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,800 Speaker 1: chance for another pay because you know, if you look 1969 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,479 Speaker 1: at where they all stand, they all know the money's 1970 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,920 Speaker 1: going up, they all know the new deals are kicking in. Well, 1971 01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,320 Speaker 1: the thought process usually at the position is I want 1972 01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 1: another deal at thirty and not the wrong side of 1973 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,759 Speaker 1: thirty so I can get another big contract as opposed 1974 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,479 Speaker 1: to what Patrick Mahomes did. So that's the back and forth, 1975 01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,600 Speaker 1: because you're right, some of these teams want to go 1976 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,680 Speaker 1: a little bit longer, but some of these players do 1977 01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,479 Speaker 1: want to go shorter so they can get paid again 1978 01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,559 Speaker 1: because the market might be entirely different. When you're locked 1979 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 1: into one of these deals long term and you start 1980 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,920 Speaker 1: seeing people pass you that you know you're better than, 1981 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,679 Speaker 1: that's kind of something that irritates a lot of players. Yeah, 1982 01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,960 Speaker 1: and the creativity behind the Chiefs deal with Pat Mahomes, 1983 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,120 Speaker 1: it's unprecedented, really, but it is. It's a ten year 1984 01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:02,559 Speaker 1: deal and it does average fifty million a year with him, 1985 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,120 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of incentive, a lot of guarantees 1986 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 1: in it, but he doesn't really receive too much money 1987 01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,040 Speaker 1: until the back end of the deal. At least five 1988 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,160 Speaker 1: years into this deal, or six years into this deal 1989 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,320 Speaker 1: he gets some sixty million dollar balloon payment in twenty 1990 01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,680 Speaker 1: twenty seven. That's a long way out, but he does 1991 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:24,000 Speaker 1: get a ton of money guaranteed. How creative you know, 1992 01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 1: do you see these teams being, particularly when they can 1993 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,440 Speaker 1: go to the players and legitimately say, listen, the pandemic 1994 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,920 Speaker 1: crushed us. You got to help us here and depend 1995 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,840 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on every guy individually how receptive 1996 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 1: they are to that. But I think all four of 1997 01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,120 Speaker 1: these deals could be lucrative for all four of these quarterbacks, 1998 01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:45,479 Speaker 1: but they all could look really different. Yeah, and that's 1999 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,160 Speaker 1: the thing that's changed with the Mahomes deal is the 2000 01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 1: last question I was kind of answering in sense of 2001 01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,880 Speaker 1: that was the structure, right, and that's what most guys wanted, 2002 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,320 Speaker 1: and that's how it usually go. And you were seeing 2003 01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 1: deals just going like all right, like let's break this 2004 01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,160 Speaker 1: down in schefters and Ian Rappaports are telling all of 2005 01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,400 Speaker 1: us that you know, well, this has two million more 2006 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,479 Speaker 1: in guarantees and you know this, It just you just 2007 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,679 Speaker 1: beat each guy just by a little as the deals 2008 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,400 Speaker 1: get done. But now there's another avenues to explore. If 2009 01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 1: you remember when Russell Wilson was going through his negotiations, 2010 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,880 Speaker 1: he was trying to get a percentage of the salary cap, 2011 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 1: which is an avenue nobody wanted to go down, but 2012 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,400 Speaker 1: he wanted to get a percentage of what the cap was. 2013 01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:24,639 Speaker 1: No team really wanted to do that. But the point 2014 01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,720 Speaker 1: is that deal and the discussions that went on there 2015 01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,200 Speaker 1: and him forcing the Seahawks and to the Mahomes deal, 2016 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 1: to everything. The thought process is more outside the box 2017 01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:36,439 Speaker 1: now than it was in the past, and I think 2018 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:40,200 Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, everybody is getting more creative. Because 2019 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:43,719 Speaker 1: of even those deals that happened before the pandemic, things 2020 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,880 Speaker 1: are not entirely in the same structure that I described earlier. 2021 01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,600 Speaker 1: So you're right, they could be entirely different because they 2022 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,360 Speaker 1: also are different players in different types of organizations, in 2023 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,880 Speaker 1: different playing styles. So yeah, I do think they could 2024 01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:57,720 Speaker 1: be different. And that's going to be the interesting part 2025 01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,720 Speaker 1: if agents want to play off what they know from 2026 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,240 Speaker 1: the other one, because they might be structuring something different 2027 01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,240 Speaker 1: than what you guys are working on and from a 2028 01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,799 Speaker 1: completely different part of the quarterback landscape. The Miami heralds 2029 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:13,960 Speaker 1: Armando Sailgaro, longtime cover beat reporter columnists for the Dolphins. 2030 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:17,200 Speaker 1: We had him on our show last week, James talking 2031 01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,479 Speaker 1: about how tricky the offense was going to be for 2032 01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,240 Speaker 1: two of this year with co offensive coordinators in George 2033 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,719 Speaker 1: Godzi and Eric Studisville, and even Charlie Fry, the quarterbacks 2034 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,840 Speaker 1: coach was going to have some input and that just 2035 01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,000 Speaker 1: seemed like a schmozzle to me, and not a good 2036 01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:36,240 Speaker 1: delineation of duties for a quarterback. And then he writes 2037 01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,520 Speaker 1: in his column today, after talking to some players at OTA's, 2038 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 1: like Miles Gaskin is telling him the playbooks completely new, 2039 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,200 Speaker 1: when the plan was to keep the majority of the 2040 01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:52,880 Speaker 1: playbook intact from the retired again Chan Gaily to help 2041 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 1: Tah And now he's getting a much different message from players. 2042 01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:00,800 Speaker 1: How gobbled and garbled can this get? For two of 2043 01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,719 Speaker 1: going forward here? Not that anybody in Buffalo is concerned, 2044 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,400 Speaker 1: but for two of sake that that doesn't sound like 2045 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,920 Speaker 1: an easy row to hoe there, No, it doesn't, and 2046 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,280 Speaker 1: it was easy. It wasn't easy to digest a lot 2047 01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,400 Speaker 1: of those words. Either. We were all over the map 2048 01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of words I didn't think I'd hear today, 2049 01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:19,600 Speaker 1: but I love it. You're right, and I actually I 2050 01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,760 Speaker 1: know I know George pretty well and I've spent time 2051 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,760 Speaker 1: with both of them, and it was going to be 2052 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:26,800 Speaker 1: an interesting setup, right, and that was going to be 2053 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:28,800 Speaker 1: something we were all going to keep our eye on. 2054 01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,360 Speaker 1: But as little change as possible for young quarterbacks is 2055 01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,080 Speaker 1: usually what you're shooting for, right, And it was weird 2056 01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,840 Speaker 1: talking at length on NFL Network the other day about 2057 01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,479 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, who liked the world on fire in his 2058 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,519 Speaker 1: rookie season and now he's going to learn an entirely 2059 01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 1: new offense with Joe Lombardi coming in in the Saint 2060 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,800 Speaker 1: system this offseason, and now we're going to see what 2061 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,280 Speaker 1: he can do in year two, which is something you 2062 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,240 Speaker 1: probably don't want to do when a guy plays really, 2063 01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,479 Speaker 1: really well well, something else don't really want to do 2064 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,920 Speaker 1: when you have questions about the guy either, right, I 2065 01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,639 Speaker 1: mean that's what you're doing. You're almost creating, in my opinion, 2066 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:04,800 Speaker 1: more questions about what your evaluation is of Tua. When 2067 01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 1: this goes on, then you're creating answers. The same thing 2068 01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 1: has happened to Drew Locke in Denver where I'm seeing 2069 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,360 Speaker 1: right now, the guys had a different offensive coordinator every 2070 01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:16,479 Speaker 1: year of college and the NFL except leading into this year. 2071 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,040 Speaker 1: That's the first time he has been the same OC 2072 01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,640 Speaker 1: twice in a row. Well, it doesn't make life very 2073 01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,519 Speaker 1: easy on a quarterback, specifically when they're young in the NFL, 2074 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,280 Speaker 1: when you keep changing things for them, sometimes you have to. 2075 01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,040 Speaker 1: And obviously in Miami they did, in Denver they did 2076 01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,760 Speaker 1: in those years. But it makes your evaluation of the 2077 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:37,360 Speaker 1: player more complex because at the same time we're hearing 2078 01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,519 Speaker 1: there's reports from my buddy Albert Brier of like they 2079 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,640 Speaker 1: could land to Shaun Watson and so all right, well 2080 01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,320 Speaker 1: then what is my aunt, what is Houston seeing out 2081 01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,160 Speaker 1: of Tua. It's hard for them to evaluate him as well, right, 2082 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,519 Speaker 1: So I think it just it does cloudy it a 2083 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 1: little bit and what you have in the player when 2084 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,400 Speaker 1: things keep changing on him. And I think now with 2085 01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,200 Speaker 1: those comments, it's going to make you go, all right, 2086 01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:00,920 Speaker 1: well let's see it too. It can do because this 2087 01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: doesn't seem entirely, you know, very easy for them. Right now, 2088 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 1: last one for me, James is it's about the NFL. 2089 01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,720 Speaker 1: It evolves all the time. They change the rules. Every year, 2090 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,519 Speaker 1: it evolves, it becomes better, the fans love it even more. 2091 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,120 Speaker 1: They two week it to give the fans more of 2092 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,120 Speaker 1: what they want less of what they don't want. And 2093 01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 1: this year they're they're putting in a seventeenth game. I 2094 01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,240 Speaker 1: see it as a as a stepping stone. I think 2095 01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,640 Speaker 1: they'll go to eighteen games eventually. I think it'll be 2096 01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:29,200 Speaker 1: an eighteen game regular season, a two season, two game preseason, 2097 01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,439 Speaker 1: and away they'll go. What do you think the biggest 2098 01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,720 Speaker 1: ripple effect will be from a this is a little 2099 01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:36,959 Speaker 1: bit of a seismic shift. I mean, it's been sixteen 2100 01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:40,400 Speaker 1: games for a long long time. What do you think 2101 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:44,520 Speaker 1: the ripple effects will be with the extended schedule? I 2102 01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,200 Speaker 1: think the first one that jumps out of me is 2103 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,480 Speaker 1: it's it's actually a little bit easier to make the 2104 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 1: schedule in terms of who gets what games, and because 2105 01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,240 Speaker 1: now you have more games that are kind of your 2106 01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:58,600 Speaker 1: wildcard games that you can throw to other broadcast teams. Right, 2107 01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,840 Speaker 1: and so when seventeenth game was added in this in 2108 01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:06,880 Speaker 1: this last last scheduling, you know reports of the League Office. 2109 01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,600 Speaker 1: We're like, well, then say say Fox doesn't get this game, 2110 01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,360 Speaker 1: and well then we can give CBS this game, and 2111 01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:13,840 Speaker 1: we can move this and now you can move some 2112 01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,040 Speaker 1: games and get some matchups right now in this season 2113 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,120 Speaker 1: is to me super super interesting. If there was no 2114 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule this year, we weren't gonna get Patrick 2115 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes versus Aaron Rodgers, which we assume Aaron Rodgers will 2116 01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,120 Speaker 1: be in Green Bay, but that game is not on 2117 01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:33,520 Speaker 1: the schedule. That was the added game for the chiefs. 2118 01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,800 Speaker 1: Of the sixteen AFC teams that get an added home game, 2119 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,360 Speaker 1: they got the Packers added, So we are getting some 2120 01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:42,360 Speaker 1: matchups that we wouldn't have had as a bonus. But 2121 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,560 Speaker 1: then when we go to eighteen, obviously things level out 2122 01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more. But at the same time, you're 2123 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,680 Speaker 1: gonna have more opportunities for national audiences to see the 2124 01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:52,840 Speaker 1: best players in the game, and I think that is 2125 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,000 Speaker 1: a really good bonus. James is always thanks for the time. 2126 01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 1: We appreciate you weighing in on the quarterback conversation. It's 2127 01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna be something we're all going to have our eyes 2128 01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 1: peeled on for sure, who's first in line, who's getting 2129 01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:07,120 Speaker 1: what it's It's really compelling with these twenty eighteen quarterbacks. 2130 01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,240 Speaker 1: Thanks very much, it is. And I snuck in Aaron Rodgers. 2131 01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 1: Did you know we got every conversation I have asked, Well, 2132 01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,080 Speaker 1: we figured you'd be tired of that, so we've decided 2133 01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:19,680 Speaker 1: to go in a completely different direction. So you're still 2134 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 1: under Thanks James James Palmer from NFL Network. Always good 2135 01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,720 Speaker 1: to catch up with him. And you know, I think 2136 01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,400 Speaker 1: is I think he spelled it out quite well with 2137 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,960 Speaker 1: with respect to the twenty eighteen class of quarterbacks, because 2138 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:39,120 Speaker 1: those are all things that have to be considered. Yeah, 2139 01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:43,960 Speaker 1: number one, who's first in line, What are they getting? 2140 01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,280 Speaker 1: And how much does the number go up for the 2141 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,720 Speaker 1: guys that come after him, not only based on the 2142 01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:55,040 Speaker 1: cost of doing business and whatever you want to call it, inflation, whatever, 2143 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:59,240 Speaker 1: but performance on the field is going to have an 2144 01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:01,640 Speaker 1: impact too. What are you paying for that you already 2145 01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:05,400 Speaker 1: know about. Here's the thing the players, the players want 2146 01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,160 Speaker 1: And this sounds crazy, but right now, these four young 2147 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:11,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for them and their representation, their agents saying, listen, 2148 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,080 Speaker 1: make them wait. We can wait as long as we want. 2149 01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:18,280 Speaker 1: The market's going nothing but up, and make them wait. 2150 01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 1: And once they do sign us, we want it to 2151 01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:23,200 Speaker 1: be like a three year deal. We want a two 2152 01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:26,280 Speaker 1: year Tips don't want it. We want it to be 2153 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:30,680 Speaker 1: as short as possible. That's because once we we'll get 2154 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:32,480 Speaker 1: another swing at the bat and it'll be even more 2155 01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:36,320 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll wait as long as we can and 2156 01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:38,680 Speaker 1: sign as shorter deal as we can. For the clubs, 2157 01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,200 Speaker 1: it's obviously just the opposite. They want to sign them 2158 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:44,880 Speaker 1: yesterday to get it done and for a twenty five 2159 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,800 Speaker 1: year deal that's cheap. Right by that time, I'm saying 2160 01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:52,120 Speaker 1: there the Mahomes ten year contract. I know, fifty million, 2161 01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, five hundred million bucks is an enormous number, 2162 01:57:54,640 --> 01:58:00,760 Speaker 1: and he's guaranteed it, Yeah, nine figures, so that sounds 2163 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,840 Speaker 1: like a big number. But in ten years it may 2164 01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 1: not sound like that much to all of us. It 2165 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:09,600 Speaker 1: may seem like a bargain by then. That's what the 2166 01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:15,000 Speaker 1: club is banking on. That's the two sides of the argument. 2167 01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,440 Speaker 1: The players want to push it off, let the market 2168 01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,240 Speaker 1: go up, and then cash in on a short deal 2169 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:21,040 Speaker 1: and bet on themselves and get another swing at the 2170 01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,920 Speaker 1: bat in an even higher market. And the clubs want 2171 01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:27,560 Speaker 1: to lock in their costs now as quickly as possible. 2172 01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,440 Speaker 1: And I thought that his take on the tah situation 2173 01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:34,640 Speaker 1: was pretty interesting because he not only talked about how 2174 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:38,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be tough for Tua, but also tough 2175 01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:42,200 Speaker 1: for the organization to evaluate him by changing everything all 2176 01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,960 Speaker 1: over again and then taking it a step further. If 2177 01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,480 Speaker 1: they're still interested into Shaun Watson when all the dust 2178 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,879 Speaker 1: settles on his off the field stuff and Houston finally blinks, 2179 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,920 Speaker 1: how does Houston feel about getting ta in return when 2180 01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:57,920 Speaker 1: they might not be able to effectively evaluate him either. Well, yeah, 2181 01:58:57,960 --> 01:58:59,800 Speaker 1: but two is in a little different spot because he's 2182 01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:02,440 Speaker 1: four more years on his rookie deal. You got four 2183 01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:04,840 Speaker 1: more years to look at him, and if, if, if 2184 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:06,760 Speaker 1: you don't see it in the first two years, you're 2185 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna get a little concerned, right, And you got to 2186 01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,720 Speaker 1: you gotta find something out, and they will this year. 2187 01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:13,800 Speaker 1: We'll find out a little bit more about him. But 2188 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you and I, the market for two is 2189 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:20,560 Speaker 1: not gonna to me. He's not gonna go up. I 2190 01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:22,480 Speaker 1: don't think so either, and I don't I think this 2191 01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:27,360 Speaker 1: only complicates it further. It's only gonna greater ensure him 2192 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 1: coming back down to Earth so lofty expectations that are 2193 01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,600 Speaker 1: still out there. And for the Texans, they don't care about. 2194 01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:36,520 Speaker 1: They don't care about twa Tonga voler right now. They 2195 01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:39,440 Speaker 1: still got Deshaun Watson to worry about. So six other quarterbacks, 2196 01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,960 Speaker 1: and they got four other quarterbacks on their roster too 2197 01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,840 Speaker 1: to sign sign Jeff Driscoll, Jeff Driscoll, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan 2198 01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:54,680 Speaker 1: Finley and DeShawn Okay's and Deshaun is for some yeah so. 2199 01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,120 Speaker 1: But the simple fact of the matter is the Texans 2200 01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,560 Speaker 1: don't care about In fact, they hope to go south 2201 01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,480 Speaker 1: because they He's not on the table for them. If 2202 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:05,080 Speaker 1: you want Deshaun, give me another first rounder, you keep 2203 02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Tah and give me another give me four ones instead 2204 02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:12,680 Speaker 1: of three, yeah and two or two and twah, you know, 2205 02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:18,440 Speaker 1: give me give me three ones, your center and your 2206 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:22,080 Speaker 1: best wide receiver. I'm gonna trust my people to pick 2207 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:24,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback we don't want to take your guy, and 2208 02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:31,400 Speaker 1: I'll bring Ryan Fitzpatrick back. Thanks, thank you. I'll take fits. Yeah, 2209 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,280 Speaker 1: and I'll give me all these other guys on your team. 2210 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:35,120 Speaker 1: You know that's you know, that's what you're looking at. 2211 02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:39,360 Speaker 1: So right now, Houston and believe me, Miami may be 2212 02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the players. Houston's gonna have a team. They're 2213 02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:47,360 Speaker 1: gonna be lined up at the doorstep with deals to 2214 02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:52,600 Speaker 1: get Deshaun Watson to despite his problems, despite his crushed reputation. 2215 02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:56,320 Speaker 1: There'll be a line. There will be a line. I'm 2216 02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:59,480 Speaker 1: telling you right now. The world we live in break 2217 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:03,360 Speaker 1: for us when we come back. I think it's time 2218 02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,960 Speaker 1: for a little NFL true false. We will dive into 2219 02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:08,720 Speaker 1: that when we return. Here on One Bill's Live, presented 2220 02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:14,200 Speaker 1: by Kalid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, Now for 2221 02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:17,560 Speaker 1: a little true false NFL true false to be exact, 2222 02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,360 Speaker 1: brought to you by Nancy's Fancy New York's artists in Cheese. 2223 02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:22,680 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? We haven't done this in 2224 02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:24,520 Speaker 1: a little while. We gotta get back to doing more 2225 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:25,560 Speaker 1: of this. You know what I mean? What are we 2226 02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:29,040 Speaker 1: doing the NFL? True false? Okay, you ask me that 2227 02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:33,520 Speaker 1: question way too much. I know because I talk to 2228 02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Jay during the preak you'd get distracted. H NFL true 2229 02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:44,320 Speaker 1: false Number one, Steve tim Tebow as a tight end 2230 02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:50,720 Speaker 1: can actually help the Jaguars false false. Was that too quick? Well, 2231 02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:54,960 Speaker 1: you were trumping up his um thumping up his leadership 2232 02:01:55,320 --> 02:02:00,200 Speaker 1: qualities as a tight end. Yeah, listen, I love to him. 2233 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:05,280 Speaker 1: He can't play. Yeah, it's gonna be tough, especially at 2234 02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:11,040 Speaker 1: three new position, highest level of the game. I admire 2235 02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:14,840 Speaker 1: his I admire his tenacity, I admire his leadership, I 2236 02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:17,680 Speaker 1: admire him as a human being. But he cannot play. 2237 02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:23,280 Speaker 1: And the most interesting thing that I have seen on 2238 02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:28,520 Speaker 1: this subject, I saw it today someone said, could Tim 2239 02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:32,600 Speaker 1: Tebow take on a Taysom Hill type role for the Jaguars? 2240 02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:38,800 Speaker 1: And I said, is someone legitimately asking that? Is someone 2241 02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:43,000 Speaker 1: legitimately asking now? Because the fact that you would put 2242 02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:47,480 Speaker 1: that out there almost certifies that you can't tell the 2243 02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:54,960 Speaker 1: difference athletically between Tim Tebow and Taysom Hill. Like if 2244 02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:59,920 Speaker 1: you were in an elementary school playground schoolyard and two 2245 02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:05,400 Speaker 1: kids raced, forget about throwing ability, all of that stuff, 2246 02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:12,440 Speaker 1: just raced. Taysom Hill would blow Tim Tebow's doors off. 2247 02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:16,120 Speaker 1: He runs a four four four, he could run two forties. 2248 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's let alone throwing the ball. Yeah 2249 02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:26,360 Speaker 1: he's he's yeah, you're right, And the answers, no, Tim 2250 02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Tebow's not gonna do a Taysom Hill kind of thing 2251 02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:32,000 Speaker 1: because the moment you put the ball in Tim Tebow's 2252 02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,800 Speaker 1: hands like that, you're taking it out of Trevor Lawrence's 2253 02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:37,000 Speaker 1: hands and you ain't doing that. Yeah. So I mean 2254 02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,440 Speaker 1: him Tebow's gonna play tight end or he's not gonna play. 2255 02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:44,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna cover kicks, or he's not gonna play. That's it. Yeah, 2256 02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:47,760 Speaker 1: that that ship has sailed. I mean he ran a 2257 02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:52,480 Speaker 1: four seven one at the Combine eleven years ago. You 2258 02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:54,800 Speaker 1: think baseball made him faster? You think he's gonna be 2259 02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Yeah, no way, no way. It's you are 2260 02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:04,560 Speaker 1: grossly under selling Taysom Hill to compare Tim Tebow to 2261 02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,440 Speaker 1: him athletically number one, and to think he could play 2262 02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:09,440 Speaker 1: a similar role. Number two, I am false with you. 2263 02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:11,160 Speaker 1: By the way on this we can move up. Ye. 2264 02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is trying to help out a guy he 2265 02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,320 Speaker 1: loves and respects, giving him a chance, and that's it. 2266 02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:21,320 Speaker 1: NFL true false. Number two. Steve Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow 2267 02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,560 Speaker 1: is the one QB who got the most help from 2268 02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:32,480 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Well, I'm trying to 2269 02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,480 Speaker 1: go down the list of Jamar Chase. We know is 2270 02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:42,000 Speaker 1: the first round pick in Cincinnati. Um No, I will say, 2271 02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,120 Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't know the rest of their roster, 2272 02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:51,200 Speaker 1: but I would say I would say Matt Ryan. Matt 2273 02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:54,120 Speaker 1: Ryan got the most help because of Kyle Pittser saying yeah, 2274 02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:57,840 Speaker 1: and they I think they got some other guys. Hold on, 2275 02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:05,040 Speaker 1: let me get Atlanta Falcon's draft. So here's the Bengals 2276 02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:07,080 Speaker 1: for you, Jamar Chase. We know with the top pick 2277 02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:09,560 Speaker 1: right then they got Jackson Carman, who was a tackle 2278 02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,879 Speaker 1: at Clemson but projects to guard. I wasn't overly impressed 2279 02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 1: with him. I didn't even think it was the second 2280 02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:18,839 Speaker 1: round talent quite frankly. Yeah, and then they went defense 2281 02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:22,480 Speaker 1: after that with their next three picks before they took 2282 02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:27,000 Speaker 1: a tackle out of East Carolina, Deonte Smith in round five, 2283 02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:31,600 Speaker 1: I believe, no. Round four, and then they took a kicker, 2284 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:37,320 Speaker 1: took a center, you know, in round six, running back. 2285 02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:42,960 Speaker 1: I would argue that the Chargers did more for their quarterback. Yeah. 2286 02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I like the reason, I said, and I knew i'd 2287 02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,280 Speaker 1: read this before. I like Kyle Pitts. They got a 2288 02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:51,960 Speaker 1: sixth round wide receiver, Frank Derby. They got an offensive 2289 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:55,320 Speaker 1: lineman Jalen Mayfield. Another offensive lineman Drew Dalman. All those 2290 02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:58,240 Speaker 1: guys were in the fourth round or before the fourth round, 2291 02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,880 Speaker 1: so I think they helped him. They got him an 2292 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:05,200 Speaker 1: offensive line, they got him Kyle Pitts. The problem is, 2293 02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,480 Speaker 1: I think that the Falcons looked like they're gonna trade 2294 02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Julio Jones and then you're yeah, now you're back because 2295 02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the cap problem. Right, he's making fifteen point three so um. 2296 02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:18,680 Speaker 1: But for the draft, I think you can make a 2297 02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:20,520 Speaker 1: case of Matt Ryan might have a run in him 2298 02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:26,040 Speaker 1: in that division, even even with Tampa Bay in that division. 2299 02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I think New Orleans is gonna take a step back. 2300 02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:30,480 Speaker 1: Drew Brees was a difference maker for them, even though 2301 02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,400 Speaker 1: they started to spot play him at times last year. 2302 02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:35,960 Speaker 1: I think the I think the Saints you're gonna take 2303 02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:37,440 Speaker 1: a step back. I think the Falcons can take a 2304 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:40,560 Speaker 1: step forward. Obviously, it's a big step to get to 2305 02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,160 Speaker 1: where Tampa Bay is and Carolina is kind of a 2306 02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:46,040 Speaker 1: big question mark. See I'm gonna say false as well, 2307 02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going with the Chargers. I think with Rashaan Slater, 2308 02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:52,800 Speaker 1: a left tackle and Josh Palmer, a receiver that they 2309 02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:56,320 Speaker 1: took in the third round, big target, another young player 2310 02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,760 Speaker 1: to kind of grow with Herbert, I would say Herbert 2311 02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:02,720 Speaker 1: got more help than Burrow did. There's probably other examples, 2312 02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,440 Speaker 1: but that's one that sticks out for me, So I 2313 02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:09,200 Speaker 1: will say false on that last. NFL true false. Steve 2314 02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Hold on my computer, slow again, Dad got it? You 2315 02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:13,840 Speaker 1: try to look something up and then you got to 2316 02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:17,400 Speaker 1: pay for it. NFL true false. Number three Seahawks and 2317 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:23,839 Speaker 1: Packers should swap disgruntled quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson 2318 02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:28,560 Speaker 1: have both expressed some disappointment in their respective organizations. And 2319 02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:32,440 Speaker 1: what do you think about a swap here? It's an 2320 02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:37,240 Speaker 1: interesting question. I don't know financially if either team could 2321 02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:39,920 Speaker 1: really pull it off, I think it pretty pret even. 2322 02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I think there's maybe it's less than ten million dollars difference. 2323 02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I just think the cap hit though for the Packers, 2324 02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:49,640 Speaker 1: even after if you and first, would be steep, and 2325 02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:51,680 Speaker 1: I think for the Seahawks it might be even. I 2326 02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:53,680 Speaker 1: think there's a I think there's a hit if it 2327 02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:57,400 Speaker 1: was equal for fun, if it was equal financially and 2328 02:07:57,480 --> 02:08:00,840 Speaker 1: they're not stopped by the contracts. It's a really interesting question. 2329 02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:06,360 Speaker 1: But I would still say I don't know. I could 2330 02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:09,080 Speaker 1: they do it? Should they do it, I'd say no. 2331 02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,080 Speaker 1: I'd say no. I mean, I think the pack would 2332 02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:15,000 Speaker 1: be a better off because Russ Wilson, while he's young, 2333 02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:19,240 Speaker 1: he's little younger one. He's thirty one. Rogers is thirty six. 2334 02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be thirty seven before the seasons. Guys, 2335 02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:26,880 Speaker 1: both those guys are have still got a ton of 2336 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:31,600 Speaker 1: good football in him. No, I think the Seahawks are 2337 02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:37,360 Speaker 1: built to win. Fat well. I'd do it if I 2338 02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:40,800 Speaker 1: was the Seahawks because I think Aaron Rodgers makes you better. 2339 02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,920 Speaker 1: It makes you better for Russ Wilson, I think it 2340 02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:45,920 Speaker 1: for him, I don't think he'd like that. I don't 2341 02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:48,720 Speaker 1: think green Bay's rosters. I think Aaron Rodgers carries a 2342 02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of covers a lot of problems in green Bay. 2343 02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:55,400 Speaker 1: They're a different kind of organization. I get that They've 2344 02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,880 Speaker 1: got a way of doing things. So I would say 2345 02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:00,760 Speaker 1: if I was the Packers would not do that. If 2346 02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:03,920 Speaker 1: I was a Seahawks, I think I would. Yeah, I'm 2347 02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm just because well, it would be interesting knowing that 2348 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:11,560 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was a graduate transfer who finished his college 2349 02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:14,320 Speaker 1: career at Wisconsin and went to the Rose Bowl with 2350 02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,800 Speaker 1: the Badgers, he would I mean, there's name recognition there, 2351 02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:19,440 Speaker 1: not that you really need it with it, you know, 2352 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,440 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, But well he was he played at Wisconsin, 2353 02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:25,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So I think it would be 2354 02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:27,800 Speaker 1: a stranger. He'd be a draw, he'd be a big draw. 2355 02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:29,680 Speaker 1: But I don't. But yeah, you can't say you should 2356 02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:31,640 Speaker 1: they should have should One team probably should, one team 2357 02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:34,440 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't. Because somebody's gonna win that trade. I'm gonna 2358 02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:37,880 Speaker 1: say false. The Packers are better off keeping Aaron Rodgers 2359 02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:40,760 Speaker 1: because that's how they've gotten to the NFC title game 2360 02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:43,320 Speaker 1: the last two years. Now here's the thing, Russell Wilson. 2361 02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:46,200 Speaker 1: There's a ton of ways to win. There's a ton 2362 02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:48,720 Speaker 1: of ways to look at this. Seattle knows Russell gonna 2363 02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:50,320 Speaker 1: line up and play for him. They're gonna try and 2364 02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:52,720 Speaker 1: do everything they can to win. What if Roger decides 2365 02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:55,120 Speaker 1: I ain't playing for the Packers, then what's the best 2366 02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,560 Speaker 1: thing for the Packers? You gotta move them. Yeah, and 2367 02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I think they might get there sooner than so I'm 2368 02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:03,520 Speaker 1: thinking if Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to play for them, 2369 02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:06,680 Speaker 1: and he really does want out, I say, yeah, both 2370 02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:08,839 Speaker 1: teams should make that trade of that. You just flipped 2371 02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:10,720 Speaker 1: flipped it right on. It's here. Well, we don't know. 2372 02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:12,680 Speaker 1: If that, we don't know if that conditions come on, 2373 02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:15,560 Speaker 1: well we're led to believe that is the case. If 2374 02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:20,040 Speaker 1: that's the case, then yes, okay. If Aaron Rodgers will 2375 02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:23,720 Speaker 1: not suit up for the Packers, I make that trade 2376 02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:26,800 Speaker 1: if I'm either team. Okay, you heard it here first. 2377 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,880 Speaker 1: That is NFL true false, brought to you by Anti's Fancy. 2378 02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:32,480 Speaker 1: We will step aside, but come back to close things 2379 02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:35,080 Speaker 1: up with what have we learned here? On One Bill's 2380 02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:40,440 Speaker 1: Life presented by Kalata Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Probably 2381 02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:42,880 Speaker 1: the most interesting thing we learned came from our good 2382 02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:46,800 Speaker 1: friend Armando Salguero in the Miami Herald today talking about 2383 02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:54,440 Speaker 1: the potential changes which could be significant with Miami's offense again, 2384 02:10:55,520 --> 02:11:00,240 Speaker 1: which does not spell path to success for two as 2385 02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:03,160 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, because it's another learning curve he's 2386 02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:06,360 Speaker 1: got to travel now, and we've seen how that's worked 2387 02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:09,600 Speaker 1: here with all the coordinators this team went through during 2388 02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:12,920 Speaker 1: the drought. New Offenses junior year. I don't know if 2389 02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:14,520 Speaker 1: he came out as a junior I can't remember, but 2390 02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:19,120 Speaker 1: New offenses year before he came out in Alabama. A 2391 02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:22,080 Speaker 1: new offense is last year at Alabama, A new offense 2392 02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:24,320 Speaker 1: is a rookie in the NFL, and another new offense 2393 02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:26,400 Speaker 1: he's learned in his second year in the NFL. There 2394 02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:29,200 Speaker 1: seems to be a difference of opinion as to how 2395 02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:32,000 Speaker 1: much the offense has changed in Miami between the coaches 2396 02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:35,800 Speaker 1: and the players. As a person from a reporter's background, 2397 02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I would tend to trust the players who have less 2398 02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:42,240 Speaker 1: invested in how things are being run. They just have 2399 02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:47,040 Speaker 1: to run them, so there's no reason for them to 2400 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:51,880 Speaker 1: couch how something might be. Where coaches have to be 2401 02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:54,160 Speaker 1: on guard all the time, and how they describe and 2402 02:11:54,320 --> 02:12:00,200 Speaker 1: present things. And when Myles Gaskin says it's a whole 2403 02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:03,560 Speaker 1: new playbook, you believe him. I believe it because it 2404 02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:05,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it is or not. If he sounds 2405 02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,480 Speaker 1: like it to him and he's re learning stuff, it 2406 02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:09,360 Speaker 1: is what it is, what it is. I mean that 2407 02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:12,000 Speaker 1: whether it's new or not, it's they're acting like it's new, 2408 02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:16,400 Speaker 1: and they feel like it's new. Um, and yeah, that's 2409 02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 1: Miami's getting fourth in Division fourth. Who's gonna beat him? 2410 02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:25,600 Speaker 1: Who's who? They? Who they're gonna beat With that, they 2411 02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:29,440 Speaker 1: might still be able to beat the Jets. What if 2412 02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:32,040 Speaker 1: they split with the Jets? I mean, we can't forget 2413 02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:33,920 Speaker 1: that they were a ten win team last year. With 2414 02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:38,680 Speaker 1: a new offense with fits, yeah, and a whole host 2415 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:44,360 Speaker 1: of defensive change. They a race to the bottom on 2416 02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:47,840 Speaker 1: the AFC. East Man, you won ten games last year. 2417 02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:49,400 Speaker 1: I get it. We've just been talking about how the 2418 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:51,560 Speaker 1: Bills are. Okay, they're tearing it down and building. Good 2419 02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:54,280 Speaker 1: for the Bills. If Brian and I like Brian Floores, 2420 02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:58,240 Speaker 1: he you can't doubt it. He won ten games last year. Yeah. 2421 02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:01,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see our colleague Maddie glab On with us 2422 02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow along with a new Tasker's teammate. We'll see you 2423 02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:04,480 Speaker 1: at noon.