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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Georgianoy

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Speaker 1: with you, Eric Mantel with us, Eric tell us about

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Speaker 1: some of these UFO sightings over Pennsylvania. What's happening over there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on. You know, it

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Speaker 1: started back in two thousand and eight. I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to talk about Bucks County here in general for a second.

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Speaker 1: We had a huge UFO flat in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people seeing this octagonal shaped object,

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Speaker 1: very very strange, a lot of lights on it, very low,

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Speaker 1: hovering silently, and that was that made national headlines. I

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Speaker 1: think there was a documentary made of it. Now fast

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Speaker 1: forward to this was I think this started in April

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I had gotten a message from a

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Speaker 1: woman here in an area called Doylestown and right here

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Speaker 1: in Bucks County, and she has said that she some

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Speaker 1: video of these really strange lights over the lake. There's

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Speaker 1: a there's a lake, uh or in this area called

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Speaker 1: Peace Valley Park and it's called Lake Galina. And she

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Speaker 1: sent me the video and I was like, my god,

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Speaker 1: this is just crazy and it was like about thirty

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Speaker 1: or forty lights, just you know, the hovering over the lake,

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Speaker 1: you know, blinking on and blinking off. And from her perspective,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't anything like the Starlink satellites or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was you know, that's what I thought it could

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Speaker 1: have been as well. But then I was like, now,

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Speaker 1: it's these are pretty much stationary and they're not they're

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Speaker 1: not moving, and a couple were moving on the sides,

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Speaker 1: but most of them were just stationary. And she got

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Speaker 1: really concerned when she wound up taking a little laser

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Speaker 1: pointer and pointed it at one of these lights, and

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Speaker 1: one of the lights that was moving stopped and she

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Speaker 1: got back in the house and she was really scared

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Speaker 1: about that. So about I guess maybe two weeks after that,

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Speaker 1: me and my team member Dominics to tell we met

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Speaker 1: with her at the site right at on the site

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Speaker 1: and showed us you know, where she saw, where her

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Speaker 1: perspective was, and just really amazing. And what I loved

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Speaker 1: about it was that what I love about now when

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Speaker 1: we're talking about these UFO sightings and the you know,

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Speaker 1: the government's disclosures that we're having these discussions now and

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Speaker 1: people aren't afraid to come forward and tell their stories

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Speaker 1: and you know, and that's a good period to be

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Speaker 1: in where you know, yes, you've got a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that stigma still, but I think more more than anything,

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Speaker 1: I think you've got a lot more people that are

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Speaker 1: having these experiences, especially when you know the Navy pilots

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Speaker 1: are coming forward saying, look, we saw this thing. We

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Speaker 1: have no idea what it is. You know that people

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Speaker 1: are more comfortable coming forward now and telling their story

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Speaker 1: and that's why there's a lot more going on. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so that was that was one case. UM. And

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Speaker 1: then we just interviewed a gentleman uh just maybe about

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Speaker 1: two months ago and we're finishing up this video. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a follow up to this first video that

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Speaker 1: we did, and he has got incredible footage that he's

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Speaker 1: been getting since around that same time for him that

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Speaker 1: she had her sighting. Uh, it's been going on about

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Speaker 1: two and a half years. And he's seeing this brightly

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Speaker 1: lit object very low, um, hovering and then there's lights

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Speaker 1: going to and from this this object. So that's one

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Speaker 1: thing that we're going to we want to do a

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Speaker 1: night investigation up there um, and we've been we've been waiting.

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Speaker 1: It's been a little cold, but now it's really getting

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Speaker 1: nice and nice and warm here. So we're trying to

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Speaker 1: do a night investigation because he's saying that it seems

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Speaker 1: to be a seasonal thing with this thing. It's it

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Speaker 1: appears in like June, like around the end of April,

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Speaker 1: August them, you know. And it's not a star or

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Speaker 1: a planet because it's moving. It's moving in different parts

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Speaker 1: of the sky, you know, from from when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at it. You know, we know the Earth moves and

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Speaker 1: it rotates, but it's this thing's moving faster than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's the odd part of the thing. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm getting people sending me drawings of what they're

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Speaker 1: seeing as well, and it's the same thing. It's this

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Speaker 1: it's got multiple lights on it. So I mean getting

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Speaker 1: not believe what she was seeing, and it went from

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Speaker 1: a triangle to a straight line. Did you see the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon report, Eric, that said that there could be a

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Speaker 1: mother's ship circling the planet letting the little UFOs out.

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Speaker 1: It was something we suspected all along. But they're they're

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Speaker 1: e've been talking about that, Yeah, exactly. I mean that,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's the thing, George, you know, this happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't Let's go back to where And I had

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Speaker 1: always had a theory about this too. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to when remember when Amoa Maua, that meteorite passed by

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Speaker 1: I was always thinking, you know, and you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: when it passed by the Earth, it was like in

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Speaker 1: the in the space, it looked like it was it

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Speaker 1: lawn sprinkler. It was like, you know, sprinkling out whatever

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Speaker 1: material or whatever um. Could this have been a probe?

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Speaker 1: You know, like they were always saying was this a probe?

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Speaker 1: They were? And then right after that is when we

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Speaker 1: that happened. A lot of the Navy pilot stuff happened

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, But it could have in

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Speaker 1: all along that this thing was out there, some or

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Speaker 1: some kind of mother ship was out there. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and now who are seeing a lot more of these things?

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Speaker 1: I think because people are looking up more as well.

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Speaker 1: We're not looking down at our cell phones as much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's still a lot of people to do that.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's like we're looking up now and

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Speaker 1: seeing some really phenomenal stuff. Now that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. Now, these videos and pictures and

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Speaker 1: descriptions over the Pennsylvania UFOs, do they see texture or

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Speaker 1: are they merely just lights? It's uh, it's just light.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems to be just a bright light. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the it suggests that there's form to it. Um.

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Speaker 1: and that's why this research is so important, and it's

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Speaker 1: so important for people to come forward with their stories

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Speaker 1: because it gives us more of an idea of of what,

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Speaker 1: you know, what to look for. And it's very and

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Speaker 1: they're all so similar. That's the other thing too. All

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Speaker 1: the reports are so similar. There's something going on. There's

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Speaker 1: no question in my mind. It just seems more and

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Speaker 1: more prevalent. And it ever was. Do you feel that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, um, and I think it's thanks thanks to

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Speaker 1: You know, I truly don't think they know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they may be covering up what it is,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't think they know. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: you know, and where where they come from. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're clearly unidentified, exactly exactly, and I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: They weren't coming interstellarly. I think they've always been here,

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Speaker 1: whether they've they're coming from the ocean or they're coming

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Speaker 1: you see a lot of USOU reports as well. These

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Speaker 1: our our investigations with more questions than we do answers. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You talked about the late John Mack from Harvard University,

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Speaker 1: who was truly an expert in abductions, tragically killed in

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Speaker 1: and got hit by a car. Yeah, he went to

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Speaker 1: look the wrong way. Horrible, horrible, But what do you

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Speaker 1: think of the alien abduction phenomena. Eric, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: listening to those the hypnosis tapes from Betty and Barney Hill.

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Speaker 1: but at the Pascagoula incident in nineteen seventy three with

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Speaker 1: what what is that phenomena? Why are they being picked?

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Speaker 1: And that's something I think that we need to look

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Speaker 1: Back in nineteen seventy one, Eric I interviewed doctor Benjamin Simon,

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Speaker 1: who was Barney and Betty Hill's psychiatrist, who did that

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Speaker 1: hypnosis that you just talked about. And I remember asking him,

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Speaker 1: He said, I don't know what they saw. I don't

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Speaker 1: and it's similar to a lot of those other abduction cases.

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Speaker 1: Um for whatever reason, Uh, if it's you know, and

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Speaker 1: But um, yeah, George, I mean it's just like this,

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Speaker 1: happening all over the world. Absolutely, And in Travis Walton's case,

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Speaker 1: he and his loggers all passed wide detector tests exactly.

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Speaker 1: What do you see? And I saw two or three

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Speaker 1: to answer your question, Eric, I'd have to say one

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Speaker 1: time I saw several UFOs and it was that night strange. Wow.

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