1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,395 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. They 2 00:00:21,475 --> 00:00:24,475 Speaker 1: heckled Ron DeSantis last night at a vigil for the 3 00:00:24,595 --> 00:00:27,755 Speaker 1: victims of the latest mass shooting in Jacksonville, and the 4 00:00:27,835 --> 00:00:32,355 Speaker 1: local district councilwoman told the crowd to be quiet because quote, 5 00:00:32,675 --> 00:00:37,715 Speaker 1: a bullet, don't know a party, unquote, and unfortunately she 6 00:00:38,115 --> 00:00:44,595 Speaker 1: was utterly mistaken. Utterly. I understand about grief, and I 7 00:00:44,675 --> 00:00:48,715 Speaker 1: understand about rage. And when a psychopath with Nazi symbols 8 00:00:48,755 --> 00:00:52,155 Speaker 1: on his guns goes to an HBCU and then to 9 00:00:52,195 --> 00:00:56,075 Speaker 1: a dollar store to specifically shoot people because they are 10 00:00:56,195 --> 00:00:59,435 Speaker 1: African American, I think I can just begin to have 11 00:00:59,515 --> 00:01:04,955 Speaker 1: a vague, genuine empathy about why somebody like council Woman 12 00:01:05,075 --> 00:01:09,115 Speaker 1: Jacoby Pittman would make such a mistake, defending, even for 13 00:01:09,435 --> 00:01:14,315 Speaker 1: just the moment, slime like Ron DeSantis, who has spent 14 00:01:14,435 --> 00:01:17,195 Speaker 1: much of this year spewing the kind of racist hate 15 00:01:17,275 --> 00:01:21,075 Speaker 1: that the Jacksonville shooter felt somehow entitled to put into 16 00:01:21,195 --> 00:01:26,315 Speaker 1: murderous form. Siding with DeSantis as he strode to the 17 00:01:26,355 --> 00:01:30,235 Speaker 1: mic and boasted he wouldn't let black colleges be targeted 18 00:01:30,275 --> 00:01:35,355 Speaker 1: by racists who already targeted them Saturday, while his idiot 19 00:01:35,395 --> 00:01:39,715 Speaker 1: wife stands there smiling doing her very dime store knockoff 20 00:01:39,755 --> 00:01:43,555 Speaker 1: impression of Jackie Kennedy. I get why she would make 21 00:01:43,635 --> 00:01:47,195 Speaker 1: a mistake under the circumstances, but it was a mistake. 22 00:01:48,435 --> 00:01:52,515 Speaker 1: In our America of twenty twenty three, a bullet not 23 00:01:52,555 --> 00:01:57,795 Speaker 1: only knows a party, but the bullets are there because 24 00:01:57,955 --> 00:01:59,915 Speaker 1: of a party. 25 00:02:00,075 --> 00:02:03,195 Speaker 2: Lord of Governor Ron DeSantis is here. We're going to 26 00:02:03,195 --> 00:02:06,115 Speaker 2: ask the governor if he would come now and remarks. 27 00:02:15,835 --> 00:02:17,235 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for doing this. 28 00:02:17,475 --> 00:02:21,275 Speaker 4: I want to just say to the councilwoman, counsel woman, 29 00:02:22,275 --> 00:02:24,915 Speaker 4: counsel woman, I got you. 30 00:02:25,075 --> 00:02:26,795 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. We've already been. 31 00:02:26,675 --> 00:02:30,315 Speaker 4: Looking to identify funds to be able to help one 32 00:02:30,875 --> 00:02:34,835 Speaker 4: make sure there's adequate security for Edward Waters College. We 33 00:02:34,955 --> 00:02:38,235 Speaker 4: are not going to allow these institutions to be targeted 34 00:02:38,235 --> 00:02:38,835 Speaker 4: by people. 35 00:02:39,235 --> 00:02:42,555 Speaker 3: We let me let me thank you. 36 00:02:45,635 --> 00:02:48,195 Speaker 5: Okay, listen, y'all, let me let me tell you we 37 00:02:48,315 --> 00:02:52,475 Speaker 5: finna put parties aside because it in and about parties today. 38 00:02:54,075 --> 00:02:59,395 Speaker 5: A bullet don't know a party. So don't get me started. Okay, 39 00:02:59,475 --> 00:03:03,395 Speaker 5: Jacoby is nice, Well, Anne is not now thet the 40 00:03:03,595 --> 00:03:06,435 Speaker 5: if the governor wanted to come here and he bringing 41 00:03:06,475 --> 00:03:10,275 Speaker 5: gifts to my community. Y'all know, I'm taking the gifts 42 00:03:10,635 --> 00:03:13,835 Speaker 5: because we've been through enough already and I don't want 43 00:03:13,835 --> 00:03:16,675 Speaker 5: to go through no mo now, y'all, y'all just be 44 00:03:16,795 --> 00:03:19,955 Speaker 5: quiet just a minute, and let let the governor say 45 00:03:19,955 --> 00:03:22,035 Speaker 5: what he gonna say, and we gonna. 46 00:03:21,795 --> 00:03:22,995 Speaker 1: Get this pot is started. 47 00:03:23,075 --> 00:03:25,035 Speaker 3: You hear me, Okay, let's do it. 48 00:03:25,075 --> 00:03:30,275 Speaker 1: We have mass shootings, and we have nearly unfettered civilian 49 00:03:30,315 --> 00:03:34,835 Speaker 1: access to these weapons of war, and we have this 50 00:03:35,035 --> 00:03:42,955 Speaker 1: decade's old orgy of gun worship because of Republicans period. 51 00:03:44,075 --> 00:03:46,995 Speaker 1: Our gun crisis may not be one hundred percent Republican, 52 00:03:46,995 --> 00:03:50,715 Speaker 1: but it's ninety five percent, as our democracy crisis may 53 00:03:50,755 --> 00:03:53,275 Speaker 1: not be one hundred percent Republican, but it's ninety five percent. 54 00:03:53,595 --> 00:03:56,435 Speaker 1: As our climate crisis may not be one hundred percent republican, 55 00:03:56,475 --> 00:04:02,075 Speaker 1: but it's well seventy five percent. Our awareness that at 56 00:04:02,115 --> 00:04:07,195 Speaker 1: any moment, anywhere, anyone in this country could be murdered 57 00:04:07,515 --> 00:04:12,395 Speaker 1: by sentient fecal matter, and the only variables from tragedy 58 00:04:12,435 --> 00:04:16,475 Speaker 1: to tragedy are which minority group this one murdered because 59 00:04:16,475 --> 00:04:20,395 Speaker 1: if which Republicans this one listened to? That waxes and 60 00:04:20,515 --> 00:04:25,795 Speaker 1: wanes but there are four unswerving constants, and they played 61 00:04:25,835 --> 00:04:29,075 Speaker 1: out in Jacksonville over the weekend. They had the guns 62 00:04:29,155 --> 00:04:32,595 Speaker 1: because of Republicans. If they didn't have the hate already, 63 00:04:32,635 --> 00:04:35,755 Speaker 1: they got it because of Republicans. Nearly all of our 64 00:04:35,835 --> 00:04:39,075 Speaker 1: news media will refuse to say that mass shootings in 65 00:04:39,115 --> 00:04:43,235 Speaker 1: this country are the unquestioned fault of Republicans, and no 66 00:04:43,315 --> 00:04:47,315 Speaker 1: matter what the circumstances of this particular one, or any 67 00:04:47,435 --> 00:04:51,795 Speaker 1: gun tragedy are, Republicans will insist it is always too 68 00:04:51,915 --> 00:04:55,915 Speaker 1: soon to you know, try to stop them from happening 69 00:04:55,955 --> 00:05:01,315 Speaker 1: and to propose, you know, solutions, And they will say 70 00:05:01,355 --> 00:05:04,595 Speaker 1: that that's trying to exploit a tragedy for political game, 71 00:05:06,435 --> 00:05:09,355 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to exploit a tragedy for donations 72 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:12,635 Speaker 1: from the National Rifle Association and making sure that nothing 73 00:05:12,835 --> 00:05:20,715 Speaker 1: is ever ever done to stop the next mass murderer. So, 74 00:05:20,835 --> 00:05:25,715 Speaker 1: Counselwoman Pittman, don't get me started. You were wrong. A 75 00:05:25,755 --> 00:05:29,595 Speaker 1: bullet knows a party, A bullet in this country knows 76 00:05:29,635 --> 00:05:35,275 Speaker 1: who its friends are Republicans. And if you don't know that, 77 00:05:35,395 --> 00:05:38,155 Speaker 1: get out. Maybe you've been a great councilwoman in your 78 00:05:38,155 --> 00:05:40,035 Speaker 1: two months in office. I don't know I hope so. 79 00:05:40,315 --> 00:05:42,315 Speaker 1: But if your response is to kiss the ass of 80 00:05:42,355 --> 00:05:45,075 Speaker 1: the governor who is running for president on a platform 81 00:05:45,115 --> 00:05:48,275 Speaker 1: of slavery had a silver lining of giving its victims 82 00:05:48,475 --> 00:05:53,035 Speaker 1: blacksmithing skills, maybe you want to reconsider which party you 83 00:05:53,115 --> 00:05:57,395 Speaker 1: belong to. Now, if this was just about the tragedy 84 00:05:57,395 --> 00:05:59,835 Speaker 1: of this weekend and the shock, forgive me for saying 85 00:05:59,875 --> 00:06:04,555 Speaker 1: what I have said. Yes, I think you would disc 86 00:06:04,835 --> 00:06:08,515 Speaker 1: of a pass. But if it isn't and you meant that, 87 00:06:09,355 --> 00:06:13,035 Speaker 1: get out. And to those in that crowd who booed 88 00:06:13,075 --> 00:06:17,315 Speaker 1: this fascist DeSantis, God bless you. And please, if words 89 00:06:17,395 --> 00:06:22,435 Speaker 1: like this still have any meaning in our paralyzed, irresponsible, racist, 90 00:06:22,795 --> 00:06:28,595 Speaker 1: failed society, please accept not just my condolences but my 91 00:06:28,875 --> 00:06:34,035 Speaker 1: thanks because you all knew which political party killed your 92 00:06:34,075 --> 00:06:37,555 Speaker 1: friends and neighbors Saturday, and you showed the courage the 93 00:06:37,595 --> 00:06:40,995 Speaker 1: rest of us, including the Democratic politicians, including us in 94 00:06:41,075 --> 00:06:45,355 Speaker 1: the media, the kind of courage we have not shown 95 00:06:50,195 --> 00:06:54,235 Speaker 1: before we get to Trump. Let's pivot to Vivek Ramaswami. 96 00:06:54,755 --> 00:06:56,875 Speaker 1: And it is hard to believe that in a timeline 97 00:06:56,875 --> 00:07:00,995 Speaker 1: that has brought us Trump and DeSantis, this Ramaswami guy 98 00:07:01,075 --> 00:07:05,595 Speaker 1: may be the biggest idiot of them all. The primary 99 00:07:05,715 --> 00:07:08,315 Speaker 1: danger of the Trump era is the release of hatred 100 00:07:08,355 --> 00:07:11,715 Speaker 1: and violence and racism and brutality. But the secondary danger 101 00:07:12,035 --> 00:07:17,995 Speaker 1: is this ongoing release of this stupidity. This I will 102 00:07:17,995 --> 00:07:21,035 Speaker 1: again go to Howard Feineman's Pittsburgh term. It fits Ramaswami 103 00:07:21,155 --> 00:07:25,595 Speaker 1: like spandex painted on him. This jag off goes on 104 00:07:25,715 --> 00:07:28,275 Speaker 1: NBC yesterday and says, no, Mike Pence shouldn't have done 105 00:07:28,315 --> 00:07:30,595 Speaker 1: what Trump wanted him to do on January sixth, but 106 00:07:30,675 --> 00:07:34,155 Speaker 1: he should have refused to certify Biden's election until the 107 00:07:34,155 --> 00:07:38,075 Speaker 1: Senate agreed to instantly institute new laws to mandate the 108 00:07:38,075 --> 00:07:42,435 Speaker 1: most draconian Republican talking points about voting suppression, single day elections, 109 00:07:42,595 --> 00:07:47,875 Speaker 1: paper ballots, government issued IDs. And he said, quote Pence 110 00:07:47,915 --> 00:07:52,195 Speaker 1: should have quote led through that level of reform and 111 00:07:52,275 --> 00:07:55,755 Speaker 1: then under that condition certify the election, as if every 112 00:07:55,995 --> 00:07:59,075 Speaker 1: moment of the political day is designed to be a 113 00:07:59,115 --> 00:08:03,435 Speaker 1: hostage situation and every law must be optional. Because VIVK 114 00:08:03,675 --> 00:08:11,075 Speaker 1: Ramaswami sees a loophole to exploit, let's leverage it, let's bargain. 115 00:08:12,195 --> 00:08:16,795 Speaker 1: This jag off had the audacity to get up in 116 00:08:16,795 --> 00:08:19,675 Speaker 1: front of a national television audience and insist that anybody 117 00:08:19,715 --> 00:08:22,115 Speaker 1: under twenty five who wants to vote should have to 118 00:08:22,155 --> 00:08:25,155 Speaker 1: pass a civics test first. And since then he has 119 00:08:25,155 --> 00:08:28,155 Speaker 1: spent his entire week revealing he could not possibly pass 120 00:08:28,275 --> 00:08:29,315 Speaker 1: any civics test. 121 00:08:30,195 --> 00:08:30,715 Speaker 3: And he has. 122 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:33,395 Speaker 1: Explained that the Constitution, which was not written until seventeen 123 00:08:33,435 --> 00:08:37,835 Speaker 1: eighty seven, won the revolution for us in seventeen eighty three, 124 00:08:39,235 --> 00:08:41,235 Speaker 1: and now he thinks, so long as you can get 125 00:08:41,275 --> 00:08:44,315 Speaker 1: away with it, you should be able to suspend the 126 00:08:44,355 --> 00:08:49,315 Speaker 1: Constitution and the laws a civics test before you can vote. Hell, 127 00:08:49,355 --> 00:08:55,755 Speaker 1: give this Ramaswami a breathalyzer test. But look out. The 128 00:08:55,875 --> 00:09:01,715 Speaker 1: Ramaswami machine may now be unstoppable. Last night, Vivek Ramaswami 129 00:09:01,835 --> 00:09:05,355 Speaker 1: got the most coveted endorsement in the political calendar. 130 00:09:05,835 --> 00:09:08,075 Speaker 2: This morning, I got up and I found myself watching 131 00:09:08,075 --> 00:09:12,675 Speaker 2: to meet the press. They at the babik Uwamaswami on Now, 132 00:09:13,075 --> 00:09:17,635 Speaker 2: just like the debates, the Republican debates. I said, Hey, 133 00:09:17,635 --> 00:09:18,955 Speaker 2: this guy is onto something. 134 00:09:19,035 --> 00:09:20,115 Speaker 3: But I love what he was. 135 00:09:20,075 --> 00:09:23,395 Speaker 2: Saying in this book. I was saying, it's fresh, it's new. 136 00:09:25,235 --> 00:09:28,035 Speaker 2: I got a little problem with his foreign affairs take. 137 00:09:28,275 --> 00:09:32,875 Speaker 2: And if he got himself an experienced person to run 138 00:09:32,915 --> 00:09:36,675 Speaker 2: with him, an experienced person, I would say, like Nikki Haley, 139 00:09:36,755 --> 00:09:38,355 Speaker 2: somebody that knows foreign affairs. 140 00:09:39,315 --> 00:09:42,675 Speaker 1: This guy would have a chance. I think this guy 141 00:09:42,715 --> 00:09:44,075 Speaker 1: really would have a chance. 142 00:09:44,635 --> 00:09:45,435 Speaker 3: Oh J. 143 00:09:46,075 --> 00:09:53,235 Speaker 1: Simpson endorses Vivek Ramaswami oh J for the Ramaswami Haley ticket. 144 00:09:55,115 --> 00:09:57,515 Speaker 1: I'd say it's the kiss of death. But you know, 145 00:10:00,355 --> 00:10:07,115 Speaker 1: I mean, how can somebody not just this stupid, this stupid, 146 00:10:07,115 --> 00:10:10,675 Speaker 1: as stupid as Vivic Ramaswami. How can somebody not just 147 00:10:10,795 --> 00:10:13,835 Speaker 1: this stupid, but this stupid he thinks he's the smartest 148 00:10:13,835 --> 00:10:20,155 Speaker 1: man alive run for president? Well, how is somebody this stupid? 149 00:10:20,795 --> 00:10:25,875 Speaker 1: A sitting senator from Tennessee Marcia Blackburn tweeted, the Left 150 00:10:26,075 --> 00:10:29,515 Speaker 1: is able to release Donald Trump's mugshot, but they still 151 00:10:29,555 --> 00:10:33,475 Speaker 1: can't tell us who brought cocaine into the White House. 152 00:10:33,515 --> 00:10:38,835 Speaker 1: And you wonder, is she really so imbecilic as to 153 00:10:38,915 --> 00:10:42,435 Speaker 1: not understand that those two things have nothing to do 154 00:10:42,595 --> 00:10:47,915 Speaker 1: with each other. Oh, and that she doesn't know that 155 00:10:47,995 --> 00:10:52,435 Speaker 1: virtually all mugshots everywhere in this country are released, and 156 00:10:53,195 --> 00:10:56,915 Speaker 1: she hadn't noticed that the leading distributor of Trump's mugshot, 157 00:10:56,955 --> 00:10:58,875 Speaker 1: the one where he tried to look like big brother 158 00:10:59,035 --> 00:11:03,315 Speaker 1: and tried to hide his double, triple, quadruple and quintuple chins. 159 00:11:05,515 --> 00:11:07,915 Speaker 1: She doesn't know that the leading distributor of the mugshot 160 00:11:07,955 --> 00:11:15,635 Speaker 1: was Trump himself, Marsha Blackburn, Ramaswami, dozens more Republicans. I mean, 161 00:11:16,675 --> 00:11:22,035 Speaker 1: they can't be naturally this stupid and have survived to 162 00:11:22,075 --> 00:11:25,715 Speaker 1: the ages they have reached. They would have walked into 163 00:11:25,795 --> 00:11:29,635 Speaker 1: open manhole covers by now, all of them. There's only 164 00:11:29,675 --> 00:11:34,155 Speaker 1: one other explanation. They must be high as a kite 165 00:11:34,475 --> 00:11:42,275 Speaker 1: all the time. Okay, now the Trump schedule, and here 166 00:11:42,315 --> 00:11:45,115 Speaker 1: we go. The cases are beginning to go back up. 167 00:11:45,235 --> 00:11:48,315 Speaker 1: Like air traffic over New York at six thirty pm 168 00:11:48,355 --> 00:11:54,675 Speaker 1: every night, runway saturation get used to it. The juxtapositions 169 00:11:54,675 --> 00:11:57,275 Speaker 1: are about to get fierce. And then as we stride 170 00:11:57,315 --> 00:11:59,795 Speaker 1: further and further into the quicksand of the twenty twenty 171 00:11:59,795 --> 00:12:02,915 Speaker 1: four primary season and the election, all the principal parties 172 00:12:02,915 --> 00:12:08,035 Speaker 1: are going to need to higher away broadways best choreographers. 173 00:12:09,155 --> 00:12:12,595 Speaker 1: At ten am, a judge in Trump's Washington case was 174 00:12:12,635 --> 00:12:15,475 Speaker 1: going to begin a hearing on something essential while at 175 00:12:15,835 --> 00:12:18,835 Speaker 1: why this is a coincidence? Ten am, a judge in 176 00:12:18,835 --> 00:12:21,635 Speaker 1: Trump's Atlanta case was going to begin a hearing on 177 00:12:21,675 --> 00:12:25,915 Speaker 1: something essential. The Washington one is simpler to digest. This 178 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:29,635 Speaker 1: is Judge Tanya Trutkin's hearing before setting a scheduled start 179 00:12:29,675 --> 00:12:32,795 Speaker 1: to the conspiracy case against Trump for trying to illegally 180 00:12:32,835 --> 00:12:38,795 Speaker 1: overturn a to borrow somebody's term perfect election. Again one 181 00:12:38,835 --> 00:12:41,835 Speaker 1: of those old fashioned multiple choice exams, which is bigger 182 00:12:41,835 --> 00:12:44,275 Speaker 1: an elephant or a mouse? The Special Council proposes to 183 00:12:44,275 --> 00:12:47,595 Speaker 1: start the trial January two, twenty twenty four. Trump proposes 184 00:12:47,635 --> 00:12:52,115 Speaker 1: to start April something, twenty twenty six. The judge usually 185 00:12:52,155 --> 00:12:54,875 Speaker 1: picks neither and sets her own date. But we're not 186 00:12:54,955 --> 00:12:57,995 Speaker 1: doing an eBay Best offers sale here. It's not going 187 00:12:58,075 --> 00:13:00,795 Speaker 1: to be splitting the difference. I will note that Judge 188 00:13:00,795 --> 00:13:03,435 Speaker 1: Trutkin already warned Trump that if he did not restrain 189 00:13:03,515 --> 00:13:05,995 Speaker 1: himself on social media, she would take it out on 190 00:13:06,115 --> 00:13:08,875 Speaker 1: him by starting the trial asap to protect the jury 191 00:13:08,915 --> 00:13:11,315 Speaker 1: pool from his efforts to poison it. And guess what, 192 00:13:11,835 --> 00:13:15,315 Speaker 1: he has not restrained himself on social media. I don't 193 00:13:15,315 --> 00:13:17,955 Speaker 1: have a clue where she will end up calendar wise, 194 00:13:18,075 --> 00:13:20,715 Speaker 1: but if she goes for any date in January or 195 00:13:20,835 --> 00:13:27,875 Speaker 1: February of next year, Trump is ft. Meanwhile, at exactly 196 00:13:27,955 --> 00:13:31,875 Speaker 1: the same hour, there is the conundrum facing Federal District 197 00:13:31,875 --> 00:13:35,515 Speaker 1: Court Judge Steve Jones. The bar to get a case 198 00:13:35,635 --> 00:13:38,035 Speaker 1: like the Atlanta one against the former Trump chief of 199 00:13:38,035 --> 00:13:41,675 Speaker 1: Staff Mark Meadows moved from the court in Georgia to 200 00:13:41,755 --> 00:13:46,235 Speaker 1: a federal court is not that high, sociate legal experts. 201 00:13:46,755 --> 00:13:51,075 Speaker 1: That's particularly so, they add, when the facts are this obvious. 202 00:13:51,075 --> 00:13:54,915 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows was a federal official at the time the 203 00:13:54,955 --> 00:13:58,395 Speaker 1: events he's charged over took place. This color of his 204 00:13:58,635 --> 00:14:03,995 Speaker 1: office thing is pretty clear. Unfortunately, Meadows may have killed 205 00:14:04,035 --> 00:14:07,395 Speaker 1: his own best argument because in filing asking to have 206 00:14:07,435 --> 00:14:10,875 Speaker 1: the case removed to federal court, he spends two pages 207 00:14:10,915 --> 00:14:13,635 Speaker 1: also asserting that he's not guilty of the charges because 208 00:14:13,635 --> 00:14:17,355 Speaker 1: they represent an attack on the essence of the First Amendment. Quote. 209 00:14:17,395 --> 00:14:20,515 Speaker 1: All the alleged conduct as to mister Meadows relates to 210 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:24,235 Speaker 1: protected political activity that lies in the heartland of the 211 00:14:24,275 --> 00:14:27,875 Speaker 1: First Amendment. The First Amendment quote has its fullest and 212 00:14:27,955 --> 00:14:32,195 Speaker 1: most urgent application precisely to the conduct of campaigns for 213 00:14:32,275 --> 00:14:38,755 Speaker 1: political office. Unquote cool, cool, small problem the Hatch Act. 214 00:14:39,555 --> 00:14:45,035 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to conduct conduct relating to protected political 215 00:14:45,035 --> 00:14:48,675 Speaker 1: activity and campaigns for political office, while the color of 216 00:14:48,715 --> 00:14:52,675 Speaker 1: your office is green for go, go go. In short, 217 00:14:52,715 --> 00:14:56,515 Speaker 1: Meadows is asking the judge to protect him from being 218 00:14:56,635 --> 00:15:01,035 Speaker 1: charged with one crime by boasting for two pages that 219 00:15:01,115 --> 00:15:07,755 Speaker 1: he committed another crime. Don't like that. Late last night, 220 00:15:07,835 --> 00:15:11,035 Speaker 1: Meadows shored up his legal representation and clearly not a 221 00:15:11,075 --> 00:15:13,675 Speaker 1: moment too soon. He added one of the deputies from 222 00:15:13,675 --> 00:15:22,595 Speaker 1: the Ken Star Bill Clinton prosecution, not Brett Kavanaugh regardless. 223 00:15:22,595 --> 00:15:26,035 Speaker 1: ABC reports the courtroom will be packed in the Meadows 224 00:15:26,075 --> 00:15:29,075 Speaker 1: case with representatives of many of the other members of 225 00:15:29,115 --> 00:15:32,075 Speaker 1: the Trump nineteen because many of them want their trials 226 00:15:32,155 --> 00:15:36,195 Speaker 1: moved to federal court as well. Meanwhile, keep an eye 227 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:39,755 Speaker 1: on this. Remember David Schaefer, the former chairman of the 228 00:15:39,755 --> 00:15:42,995 Speaker 1: Georgia GOP, the fake elector one of the Trump nineteen, 229 00:15:43,035 --> 00:15:45,755 Speaker 1: whose first move after the indictments was to release emails 230 00:15:45,755 --> 00:15:48,555 Speaker 1: that basically said Trump did this, Trump and his lawyers 231 00:15:48,595 --> 00:15:53,875 Speaker 1: Trump did this. Woooooooo, He's got company now. Kathy Latham, 232 00:15:53,875 --> 00:15:57,475 Speaker 1: the local official also tied to the accessed voting machines 233 00:15:57,515 --> 00:16:00,555 Speaker 1: crime in Coffee County, has said the same thing. I 234 00:16:00,715 --> 00:16:04,075 Speaker 1: served at the pleasure of the president and Sean still 235 00:16:04,315 --> 00:16:07,715 Speaker 1: a fake elector same thing. One of the benefits of 236 00:16:07,795 --> 00:16:11,235 Speaker 1: having eighteen co defendants from the prosecution point of view, 237 00:16:11,435 --> 00:16:14,675 Speaker 1: is that a majority of them can stay loyal to Trump, 238 00:16:15,075 --> 00:16:17,755 Speaker 1: and you'd still have as many as eight who will flip. 239 00:16:19,595 --> 00:16:22,915 Speaker 1: Of course, all of this is, if not academic, then 240 00:16:23,555 --> 00:16:26,115 Speaker 1: way less important if Trump is not actually on the 241 00:16:26,195 --> 00:16:29,075 Speaker 1: ballot next year. And you will remember why. That might 242 00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:33,155 Speaker 1: be the disqualification clause of section three of the fourteenth 243 00:16:33,235 --> 00:16:37,835 Speaker 1: Amendment fourteen three for short. And we are finally seeing 244 00:16:37,875 --> 00:16:41,035 Speaker 1: some early stirrings from people who want to make this 245 00:16:41,275 --> 00:16:48,315 Speaker 1: constitutional theory sing. Four years ago, Corky Messner ran for 246 00:16:48,355 --> 00:16:51,795 Speaker 1: the Senate seat from New Hampshire and Trump endorsed him. 247 00:16:52,155 --> 00:16:57,955 Speaker 1: And yet Corky Messner is loyal to the Constitution. I've 248 00:16:58,035 --> 00:17:01,795 Speaker 1: taken an oath to this country. My sons are serving 249 00:17:01,915 --> 00:17:04,875 Speaker 1: right now, and I believe someone's got to stay up 250 00:17:04,955 --> 00:17:10,035 Speaker 1: up to defend the constitution. Corky says he's not precisely 251 00:17:10,155 --> 00:17:12,515 Speaker 1: sure how he's going to do this, but he's going 252 00:17:12,595 --> 00:17:16,275 Speaker 1: to try to get Trump barred from the New Hampshire ballot. 253 00:17:16,355 --> 00:17:20,875 Speaker 1: Based on fourteen three, ABC News reports, the New Hampshire 254 00:17:20,875 --> 00:17:24,355 Speaker 1: Secretary of State met with mister Messner on Friday and 255 00:17:24,435 --> 00:17:27,875 Speaker 1: will now confer with the state attorney general. But the 256 00:17:27,915 --> 00:17:30,595 Speaker 1: Secretary of State does think this needs to be tested 257 00:17:30,635 --> 00:17:34,235 Speaker 1: in court. And yes, the New Hampshire Republicans are just 258 00:17:34,555 --> 00:17:37,795 Speaker 1: ornery and old school enough that they can be rapidly 259 00:17:37,915 --> 00:17:44,315 Speaker 1: pro Trump, but angrily more pro constitution. And now in Florida, 260 00:17:44,835 --> 00:17:49,115 Speaker 1: a tax attorney named Lawrence Kaplan paging mister Caplan Flease, 261 00:17:49,515 --> 00:17:52,475 Speaker 1: has sued in federal court to keep Trump off the 262 00:17:52,475 --> 00:17:55,955 Speaker 1: primary ballot next March nineteenth in Florida based on fourteenth three. 263 00:17:57,475 --> 00:18:01,635 Speaker 1: Next crewe Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, it 264 00:18:01,755 --> 00:18:04,155 Speaker 1: keeps saying it is going to be acting shortly on 265 00:18:04,195 --> 00:18:08,035 Speaker 1: Trump and fourteen three. Meanwhile, another ethics group, Free Speech 266 00:18:08,075 --> 00:18:11,875 Speaker 1: for People, is launching a campaign that starts with letters 267 00:18:12,315 --> 00:18:14,955 Speaker 1: to all fifty state secretaries of state going through the 268 00:18:14,995 --> 00:18:19,675 Speaker 1: fourteen to three argument and urging them to bar Trump 269 00:18:19,715 --> 00:18:23,955 Speaker 1: from their ballots themselves and see what happens thereafter. And 270 00:18:23,995 --> 00:18:26,715 Speaker 1: that would be phase one where Daris gets her oh ites. 271 00:18:26,755 --> 00:18:31,675 Speaker 1: Phase two from FSFP is legal challenges state by state 272 00:18:31,875 --> 00:18:37,595 Speaker 1: using state laws where they exist. These are not huge developments, 273 00:18:37,635 --> 00:18:41,155 Speaker 1: but they are a damn site better than commentaries about 274 00:18:41,195 --> 00:18:46,395 Speaker 1: how conservative scholars are convinced that fourteen to three disqualifies Trump, 275 00:18:46,675 --> 00:18:55,715 Speaker 1: even commentaries by me. One more thing, the Russian Investigative 276 00:18:55,755 --> 00:19:01,155 Speaker 1: Committee now says it's official, quote molecular genetic testing has 277 00:19:01,235 --> 00:19:05,195 Speaker 1: been completed unquote. It says and yes that one particular 278 00:19:05,315 --> 00:19:08,275 Speaker 1: pile of ashes from the private jet crash northwest of 279 00:19:08,355 --> 00:19:12,915 Speaker 1: Moscow last Thursday is was the Wagner group leader at 280 00:19:12,955 --> 00:19:17,315 Speaker 1: Guenny Progosion. So it thus becomes irresistible to Saturday Night 281 00:19:17,395 --> 00:19:22,075 Speaker 1: Live fans of a certain vintage good Evening Generalissimov Guenny 282 00:19:22,115 --> 00:19:31,555 Speaker 1: Pregosion is still dead. Also of interest, here, the murmuring 283 00:19:31,675 --> 00:19:34,075 Speaker 1: is beginning to get louder. There is a push starting 284 00:19:34,155 --> 00:19:39,435 Speaker 1: to get Jonathan Turley fired by George Washington University Law School. 285 00:19:40,355 --> 00:19:44,075 Speaker 1: Can I help? And you know whose comments are most 286 00:19:44,155 --> 00:19:48,155 Speaker 1: directly helping this along? Jonathan Turley's. 287 00:19:48,795 --> 00:19:49,395 Speaker 3: That's next. 288 00:19:49,515 --> 00:19:54,835 Speaker 1: This is countdown. There's his countdown with Keith old Woman. 289 00:20:06,835 --> 00:20:13,075 Speaker 6: This is Sports Center. Wait, check that not anymore. This 290 00:20:14,075 --> 00:20:17,755 Speaker 6: is countdown with Keith Alberman. 291 00:20:18,075 --> 00:20:23,315 Speaker 1: In sports, the Spanish soccer kiss crisis continues to cascade. 292 00:20:23,675 --> 00:20:26,835 Speaker 1: The world governing body for the sport, FIFA, has now 293 00:20:26,955 --> 00:20:31,235 Speaker 1: suspended the president of the Spanish Football Federation for ninety days. 294 00:20:31,715 --> 00:20:35,115 Speaker 1: He has vowed to fight any punishment. Every one of 295 00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:38,955 Speaker 1: Spain's eleven assistant managers and coaches has quit in protest. 296 00:20:39,475 --> 00:20:43,075 Speaker 1: Each Spanish player has refused to play again for their country. 297 00:20:43,515 --> 00:20:46,435 Speaker 1: Other nations are vowing to refuse to play Spain ever 298 00:20:46,515 --> 00:20:51,235 Speaker 1: again because the FIFA suspension is insufficient. The federation chief, 299 00:20:51,355 --> 00:20:56,715 Speaker 1: Luis Rubiatis, celebrated Spain's World Cup victory, first by grabbing 300 00:20:56,795 --> 00:20:59,715 Speaker 1: his crotch and then by grabbing the back of the 301 00:20:59,795 --> 00:21:03,195 Speaker 1: head of the Spanish player Jenny Hermoso with both hands 302 00:21:03,275 --> 00:21:05,795 Speaker 1: and kissing her on the lips. She said it was 303 00:21:05,915 --> 00:21:09,515 Speaker 1: not consensual. He issued a statement that translates from Spanish 304 00:21:09,595 --> 00:21:13,915 Speaker 1: to English as some sort of gibberish about consent via 305 00:21:14,075 --> 00:21:17,915 Speaker 1: the circumstances, And apparently it's even worse in Spanish. It 306 00:21:18,115 --> 00:21:22,155 Speaker 1: loses something in the original, something about her lifting him 307 00:21:22,235 --> 00:21:25,795 Speaker 1: by the hips. His conclusion, he's not resigning, and if 308 00:21:25,875 --> 00:21:28,515 Speaker 1: you keep trying to make him, he'll just keep saying 309 00:21:28,715 --> 00:21:29,715 Speaker 1: he's not resigning. 310 00:21:30,715 --> 00:21:31,915 Speaker 2: Mediri no. 311 00:21:33,955 --> 00:21:41,755 Speaker 3: No bomidi novoya meidiri novoyamidiri. 312 00:21:42,315 --> 00:21:45,755 Speaker 1: Okay, fine, you're not resigning. They'll fire you instead. The 313 00:21:45,835 --> 00:21:48,755 Speaker 1: Spanish government says it is now trying to remove Rubialis 314 00:21:48,835 --> 00:21:51,915 Speaker 1: by legal means. The Spanish Football Federation says it has 315 00:21:52,035 --> 00:21:57,395 Speaker 1: activated its sexual violence protocol and is investigating its own 316 00:21:57,475 --> 00:22:01,595 Speaker 1: federation president in Chicago. We might be able to use 317 00:22:01,715 --> 00:22:04,955 Speaker 1: the Spanish football Federation to look into this. Three days later, 318 00:22:05,035 --> 00:22:07,555 Speaker 1: and the White Sox are still not clear how two 319 00:22:07,715 --> 00:22:12,235 Speaker 1: fans got shot as they watched Friday's game from the bleachers. 320 00:22:12,755 --> 00:22:14,915 Speaker 1: They don't even know if the shots came from inside 321 00:22:14,995 --> 00:22:17,715 Speaker 1: or outside the stadium. A forty two year old woman 322 00:22:17,795 --> 00:22:20,275 Speaker 1: took a bullet in the leg and was hospitalized in 323 00:22:20,395 --> 00:22:23,035 Speaker 1: fair condition. A twenty six year old woman suffered a 324 00:22:23,115 --> 00:22:25,875 Speaker 1: graze to the abdomen and did not need medical attention. 325 00:22:26,355 --> 00:22:28,915 Speaker 1: Hope this doesn't offend anybody connected to this podcast. Do 326 00:22:28,995 --> 00:22:31,995 Speaker 1: we have anybody with any connections to the White Sox. 327 00:22:32,155 --> 00:22:33,515 Speaker 3: This on this pod? 328 00:22:33,795 --> 00:22:37,355 Speaker 1: On this podcast, almost no story though, is without a 329 00:22:37,475 --> 00:22:40,955 Speaker 1: silver lining, and this one is no different. After the shooting, 330 00:22:41,315 --> 00:23:01,595 Speaker 1: the White Sox canceled that night's Vanilla Ice concert. Thank you, 331 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:05,755 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust from Oakland back to skating. As you know. 332 00:23:05,915 --> 00:23:09,755 Speaker 1: Oakland A's team owner John Fisher starved that franchise until 333 00:23:09,795 --> 00:23:12,555 Speaker 1: it was unwatchable and attendance flat lined, and this was 334 00:23:12,595 --> 00:23:14,795 Speaker 1: his excuse to make a deal to move it to 335 00:23:15,035 --> 00:23:17,915 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Fisher has just found out he has a 336 00:23:18,115 --> 00:23:21,115 Speaker 1: big problem. No way there is a place to play 337 00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:24,355 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas before twenty twenty eight at the earliest, 338 00:23:24,755 --> 00:23:27,875 Speaker 1: maybe even twenty twenty nine, and he's leased in Oakland 339 00:23:27,955 --> 00:23:31,475 Speaker 1: runs out after next season. He's had the gall to 340 00:23:31,715 --> 00:23:35,075 Speaker 1: ask Oakland for an extension. The Mayor of Oakland has 341 00:23:35,155 --> 00:23:38,875 Speaker 1: replied by telling Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred, who is complicit 342 00:23:38,995 --> 00:23:42,235 Speaker 1: in this staggering betrayal of one of its most long 343 00:23:42,355 --> 00:23:45,995 Speaker 1: suffering markets, that Fisher can have the extension provided that 344 00:23:46,115 --> 00:23:50,595 Speaker 1: when the A's move, they leave the name A's in Oakland, 345 00:23:50,795 --> 00:23:53,635 Speaker 1: and that Baseball promises in writing to put an expansion 346 00:23:53,715 --> 00:23:57,115 Speaker 1: franchise to replace the A's in Oakland, which they'll then 347 00:23:57,235 --> 00:24:00,715 Speaker 1: call the A's the current A's and we know what 348 00:24:00,835 --> 00:24:04,395 Speaker 1: A stands for here. Think they have an alternative renting 349 00:24:04,475 --> 00:24:08,155 Speaker 1: out the home of the San Francisco Giants for thirty 350 00:24:08,275 --> 00:24:11,515 Speaker 1: or forty games a year. If that doesn't work, Plan 351 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:14,675 Speaker 1: C is to play in the A's Triple A minor 352 00:24:14,715 --> 00:24:18,115 Speaker 1: League stadium which is in Summerland, Nevada, and that seats 353 00:24:18,235 --> 00:24:35,995 Speaker 1: eighty two hundred people and doesn't have a roof. Still 354 00:24:36,035 --> 00:24:38,395 Speaker 1: ahead on an all new edition of Countdown. Oh, it's 355 00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:41,795 Speaker 1: anniversary month. I mean, I've been around so long it's 356 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:45,795 Speaker 1: always anniversary month for something. This time it's the anniversary 357 00:24:45,835 --> 00:24:49,075 Speaker 1: of the start of my television career. And thus previously 358 00:24:49,315 --> 00:24:53,995 Speaker 1: untold tales of Ted Turner first time for the Daily 359 00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:55,915 Speaker 1: round Up with the miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger 360 00:24:55,915 --> 00:24:59,715 Speaker 1: effect specimens who constitute today's worse persons in the world. 361 00:25:00,955 --> 00:25:03,235 Speaker 1: Should have done that with a Southern accent. Worst persons 362 00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:07,715 Speaker 1: in the World Turner impression the bronze to Zillo, the 363 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:12,435 Speaker 1: online home selling site. It posted that ten days before 364 00:25:12,515 --> 00:25:15,995 Speaker 1: Trump was indicted in Georgia, he had sold Merri Lago 365 00:25:16,155 --> 00:25:18,555 Speaker 1: for four hundred and twenty two million dollars to his 366 00:25:18,715 --> 00:25:26,075 Speaker 1: son Junior. You know, even though Zilo estimated the value 367 00:25:26,155 --> 00:25:28,195 Speaker 1: of the place at twenty four million, that was the 368 00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:31,435 Speaker 1: price four hundred and twenty two million. Needless to say, 369 00:25:31,475 --> 00:25:35,315 Speaker 1: this was interesting, sounded like something you know, drug lord 370 00:25:35,355 --> 00:25:38,715 Speaker 1: would do before faking his own death. Five hours later, 371 00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:41,795 Speaker 1: Zillo finally answered a lot of inquiries by saying, without 372 00:25:41,835 --> 00:25:45,915 Speaker 1: further explanation, that this was a thing that was posted 373 00:25:45,995 --> 00:25:49,595 Speaker 1: in error, and they took it down an error. You bet. 374 00:25:50,555 --> 00:25:53,475 Speaker 1: The runners up Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk continuing to 375 00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:57,155 Speaker 1: lie about how many people saw the Carlson flatulent lap 376 00:25:57,235 --> 00:26:00,355 Speaker 1: sitting interview with Trump. The number they're now claiming who 377 00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:03,395 Speaker 1: saw it is like a three D four hundred, I 378 00:26:03,435 --> 00:26:06,475 Speaker 1: don't know, eleventy billion, whatever it is. In fact, that 379 00:26:06,835 --> 00:26:09,035 Speaker 1: number that they are putting out is how many people 380 00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:14,515 Speaker 1: saw the tweet of the interview in their timelines. The 381 00:26:14,715 --> 00:26:17,795 Speaker 1: old video view number that Musk has now hidden from 382 00:26:17,835 --> 00:26:21,635 Speaker 1: Twitter only required that people watched something for two seconds 383 00:26:21,675 --> 00:26:24,115 Speaker 1: to count as a viewer, so it was bad enough 384 00:26:24,755 --> 00:26:26,915 Speaker 1: measurable reports that the number of people who watched the 385 00:26:27,155 --> 00:26:30,155 Speaker 1: Trump Tucker Carlson interview for at least two seconds was 386 00:26:30,275 --> 00:26:35,875 Speaker 1: only fourteen point eight million two seconds who watched it 387 00:26:35,955 --> 00:26:39,075 Speaker 1: for even a minute way less. The debate, for which 388 00:26:39,075 --> 00:26:42,635 Speaker 1: it was supposedly counterprogramming, got twelve point eight million on Fox. 389 00:26:43,155 --> 00:26:46,595 Speaker 1: The goped debate, for whatever this is worth, crushed Tucker 390 00:26:46,675 --> 00:26:50,435 Speaker 1: Carlson with Trump in terms of actual audience in short 391 00:26:50,955 --> 00:26:54,315 Speaker 1: under Musk. Twitter has a new metric which includes people 392 00:26:54,355 --> 00:26:58,875 Speaker 1: who watch something and people who don't watch it. Genius, 393 00:26:58,955 --> 00:27:03,515 Speaker 1: I tell you genius, but the winner Jonathan Turley. People 394 00:27:03,635 --> 00:27:05,875 Speaker 1: keep asking me about Nathan Turley, who used to be 395 00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:08,595 Speaker 1: a regular on Countdown, and what happened to him. My 396 00:27:08,755 --> 00:27:13,075 Speaker 1: answer is, I assume it's blackmail. The real question is 397 00:27:13,515 --> 00:27:16,275 Speaker 1: what's going to happen to him next. There is mounting 398 00:27:16,315 --> 00:27:19,755 Speaker 1: pressure on George Washington University Law School to get rid 399 00:27:19,795 --> 00:27:23,915 Speaker 1: of him. The latest atrocity from John Turley described online 400 00:27:23,955 --> 00:27:27,835 Speaker 1: by somebody as Mike Lindell with tenure. He is whoring 401 00:27:27,875 --> 00:27:30,435 Speaker 1: out his reputation by telling his new pimps at Fox 402 00:27:30,875 --> 00:27:33,915 Speaker 1: that he can't understand the Trump charges because when Trump 403 00:27:33,995 --> 00:27:36,875 Speaker 1: called Secretary of State Ken Rafsenberger of Georgia and asked 404 00:27:36,955 --> 00:27:39,995 Speaker 1: him to find eleven, five hundred and seventy votes, he 405 00:27:40,115 --> 00:27:44,395 Speaker 1: was just demanding a recount. A recount, that's all. It was, 406 00:27:45,195 --> 00:27:48,875 Speaker 1: the recount which had already taken place before the phone 407 00:27:48,915 --> 00:27:53,995 Speaker 1: call a month earlier, a month after the audit. Worse, 408 00:27:54,235 --> 00:27:58,555 Speaker 1: Turley is in direct disagreement with somebody very well respected 409 00:27:58,595 --> 00:28:01,075 Speaker 1: in the legal game who tweeted on January third, twenty 410 00:28:01,115 --> 00:28:04,635 Speaker 1: twenty one quote telling Raffensburger to quote find the votes 411 00:28:04,755 --> 00:28:10,675 Speaker 1: on the Saturday before the inauguration is a breathtaking I 412 00:28:10,835 --> 00:28:13,235 Speaker 1: am as mystified by the request, as I am by 413 00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:16,755 Speaker 1: the logic such an opportunistic move to secure the sixteen 414 00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:20,435 Speaker 1: electoral votes would not work to change the outcome. Who 415 00:28:20,475 --> 00:28:24,315 Speaker 1: tweeted that position, completely contradicting and out arguing John Turley 416 00:28:25,515 --> 00:28:31,235 Speaker 1: John Turley. John Turley said that the request the Raffensburger 417 00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:34,915 Speaker 1: made no sense. Couldn't figure it out. Now he says, Oh, 418 00:28:34,955 --> 00:28:37,515 Speaker 1: it's just a recount. He's being blackmailed. 419 00:28:38,315 --> 00:28:38,595 Speaker 3: John. 420 00:28:39,235 --> 00:28:41,915 Speaker 1: Remember when they tried to blackmail Jeff Bezos to give 421 00:28:41,955 --> 00:28:44,555 Speaker 1: Trump good coverage? You really think Bezos was the only 422 00:28:44,675 --> 00:28:51,155 Speaker 1: one looking at you? Turley, Turley Today's worst person. Annoy 423 00:29:02,995 --> 00:29:05,995 Speaker 1: Now to the number one story on this all new 424 00:29:06,155 --> 00:29:08,595 Speaker 1: edition of Countdown. And it's that time of year again. 425 00:29:09,195 --> 00:29:12,275 Speaker 1: It's August when the odometer turns over and my TV 426 00:29:12,515 --> 00:29:17,555 Speaker 1: debut becomes forty three years ago this month. 427 00:29:17,595 --> 00:29:18,715 Speaker 3: Holy crap. 428 00:29:19,755 --> 00:29:23,515 Speaker 1: And it all owes to Ted Turner and Lou Dobbs. 429 00:29:24,155 --> 00:29:28,115 Speaker 1: Part of this I've told before. I actually interviewed with 430 00:29:28,275 --> 00:29:33,475 Speaker 1: Cable News Network twice, once in April nineteen eighty, when 431 00:29:33,475 --> 00:29:36,315 Speaker 1: they were not yet on the air, and after that interview, 432 00:29:36,395 --> 00:29:38,755 Speaker 1: I saw no reason they ever would be. I wrote 433 00:29:38,795 --> 00:29:41,235 Speaker 1: in my diary, there's no chance they're ever going to 434 00:29:41,275 --> 00:29:42,875 Speaker 1: get it on the air in time. They were supposed 435 00:29:42,875 --> 00:29:45,675 Speaker 1: to go on in September, because the New York Bureau 436 00:29:45,755 --> 00:29:51,155 Speaker 1: of CNN consisted of one coffee table, a couple of chairs, 437 00:29:51,715 --> 00:29:56,795 Speaker 1: one coffee machine, a stairwell, one unisex bathroom, and one 438 00:29:56,915 --> 00:30:00,755 Speaker 1: staffer New York Bureau chief Mary Alice Williams. Plus the 439 00:30:00,835 --> 00:30:04,235 Speaker 1: day I went there, CNN Sports president Bill McPhail made 440 00:30:04,275 --> 00:30:07,475 Speaker 1: it too staffers. He was up from Atlanta after a 441 00:30:07,835 --> 00:30:11,235 Speaker 1: long year. My phone rang one day and McPhail asked 442 00:30:11,275 --> 00:30:13,715 Speaker 1: me to fill in for two weeks. In two weeks 443 00:30:14,075 --> 00:30:16,795 Speaker 1: for their New York sports reporter. I had no television 444 00:30:16,875 --> 00:30:21,195 Speaker 1: experience at all. Well, I'd watched it. She was going 445 00:30:21,235 --> 00:30:24,715 Speaker 1: on vacation on August third, sooner, McPhail added, if the 446 00:30:24,755 --> 00:30:27,755 Speaker 1: baseball strike ended before then. Her name was Debbie Segura, 447 00:30:27,835 --> 00:30:31,875 Speaker 1: and all I knew was vacation me okay. Turned out 448 00:30:32,355 --> 00:30:35,515 Speaker 1: it was part vacation, part get out of town, quickly, 449 00:30:35,715 --> 00:30:41,875 Speaker 1: very quickly, see CNN started as not just news news 450 00:30:42,075 --> 00:30:46,075 Speaker 1: or just news and politics and interviews and guests. There 451 00:30:46,195 --> 00:30:48,635 Speaker 1: was a half an hour business show every night, and 452 00:30:48,715 --> 00:30:51,595 Speaker 1: a half an hour show business show every night, and 453 00:30:51,635 --> 00:30:53,995 Speaker 1: a half an hour sports cast at seven, and another 454 00:30:54,035 --> 00:30:55,955 Speaker 1: half an hour sports cast at eleven and then one 455 00:30:55,995 --> 00:30:58,155 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. There was a fashion program, 456 00:30:58,235 --> 00:31:00,395 Speaker 1: and there were hourly stock reports, and they had a 457 00:31:00,395 --> 00:31:03,555 Speaker 1: staff of meteorologists, and they had short sports casts almost 458 00:31:03,635 --> 00:31:06,915 Speaker 1: every hour of the day. And the business anchor based 459 00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:09,675 Speaker 1: in that New York bureau, which had expanded from the 460 00:31:09,715 --> 00:31:14,435 Speaker 1: one unisex bathroom, was Lou Dobbs, and as the producer 461 00:31:14,515 --> 00:31:16,195 Speaker 1: they had sent up to work with me when I 462 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:19,515 Speaker 1: filled in for this Debbie Sigura. Phil Griffin later the 463 00:31:19,555 --> 00:31:22,115 Speaker 1: president of MSNBC. As he explained to me, when we 464 00:31:22,155 --> 00:31:23,995 Speaker 1: got in the car to go out to Shaye Stadium 465 00:31:24,035 --> 00:31:27,995 Speaker 1: to interview all those New York Mets guys, Lou Dobbs 466 00:31:28,155 --> 00:31:31,395 Speaker 1: was rumored to be stepping out on his wife with 467 00:31:31,955 --> 00:31:35,475 Speaker 1: the CNN New York Sports reporter and missus Dobbs had 468 00:31:35,515 --> 00:31:38,155 Speaker 1: found out, so there was even a rumor there was 469 00:31:38,235 --> 00:31:40,715 Speaker 1: somebody else who also worked in the CNN New York 470 00:31:40,795 --> 00:31:45,555 Speaker 1: Bureau who found out. So Bill McPhail's hurried call asking 471 00:31:45,595 --> 00:31:48,035 Speaker 1: me to fill in for the reporter for two weeks 472 00:31:48,075 --> 00:31:52,875 Speaker 1: in two weeks was because she was going on quote vacation. 473 00:31:54,755 --> 00:31:57,635 Speaker 1: Not long after all this, Dobbs thought it would be 474 00:31:57,715 --> 00:32:00,555 Speaker 1: smarter to leave New York for a while, like a 475 00:32:00,675 --> 00:32:04,355 Speaker 1: decade or so, and Debbie went with him. They got married. 476 00:32:05,195 --> 00:32:07,715 Speaker 1: This left New York without a sports reporter, and CNN 477 00:32:07,755 --> 00:32:09,795 Speaker 1: tried another one of their Atlanta anchors for a while, 478 00:32:09,875 --> 00:32:12,435 Speaker 1: but they kept giving him extra vacation time, so they 479 00:32:12,475 --> 00:32:14,715 Speaker 1: would have to bring me in freelance every month, and 480 00:32:14,835 --> 00:32:17,355 Speaker 1: finally the following March they offered me the job full time. 481 00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:20,395 Speaker 1: And I have not earned an honest paycheck since. And 482 00:32:20,475 --> 00:32:23,595 Speaker 1: I mean that in two ways. CNN was paying me 483 00:32:23,955 --> 00:32:27,755 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a week, that's one hundred dollars a 484 00:32:27,875 --> 00:32:31,475 Speaker 1: day to go on national television. Even then, this seemed 485 00:32:31,475 --> 00:32:34,235 Speaker 1: a little low, and it was about forty percent less 486 00:32:34,355 --> 00:32:36,115 Speaker 1: than what I was making for like three days a 487 00:32:36,155 --> 00:32:42,795 Speaker 1: week in network radio. I pointed this out acceptingly because 488 00:32:42,795 --> 00:32:46,155 Speaker 1: I was learning how to do TV while on TV 489 00:32:46,275 --> 00:32:48,195 Speaker 1: and getting paid for it. It was a vocational school, 490 00:32:48,875 --> 00:32:50,875 Speaker 1: and that's when they told me that the five hundred 491 00:32:50,875 --> 00:32:52,555 Speaker 1: dollars a week was already more than they had been 492 00:32:52,595 --> 00:32:55,675 Speaker 1: paying Debbie Sigura and more than the guy they were 493 00:32:55,715 --> 00:32:59,275 Speaker 1: paying as their reporter in Los Angeles. And then Bill McPhail, 494 00:32:59,315 --> 00:33:01,275 Speaker 1: the head of sports, called and offered me a contract 495 00:33:01,315 --> 00:33:04,835 Speaker 1: for twenty five thousand dollars and I said, wait, five 496 00:33:05,315 --> 00:33:07,275 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a week is twenty six that. Wait 497 00:33:07,315 --> 00:33:10,955 Speaker 1: a minute, you're offering me less for the contract. Why 498 00:33:10,995 --> 00:33:14,155 Speaker 1: would I take less? Is there health insurance or something? 499 00:33:14,235 --> 00:33:17,075 Speaker 1: And he said no, there's just the security of having 500 00:33:17,115 --> 00:33:18,635 Speaker 1: the contract. And I said, well, I'd rather have the 501 00:33:18,715 --> 00:33:22,635 Speaker 1: thousand dollars that you're docking me for signing, and they 502 00:33:22,755 --> 00:33:26,115 Speaker 1: found it somewhere, but they always reminded me how generous 503 00:33:26,355 --> 00:33:28,755 Speaker 1: they had been with that extra thousand dollars, and I 504 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:33,635 Speaker 1: kept saying, that's not extra. You are already paying me that. Anyway, 505 00:33:34,595 --> 00:33:37,595 Speaker 1: none of that would have happened, though, without Ted Turner, 506 00:33:38,075 --> 00:33:41,635 Speaker 1: because CNN was his idea, and in fact, most of 507 00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:45,075 Speaker 1: what you saw from me on ESPN later that was 508 00:33:45,235 --> 00:33:49,235 Speaker 1: also mostly his idea too, sort of. Anyway, the basic 509 00:33:49,275 --> 00:33:52,915 Speaker 1: idea of SportsCenter sports news on national television on more 510 00:33:53,035 --> 00:33:56,475 Speaker 1: or less a daily basis. Ted did that. Not ESPN 511 00:33:57,635 --> 00:34:02,035 Speaker 1: and the daily sports news studio show on at the 512 00:34:02,155 --> 00:34:05,595 Speaker 1: same time every day or night with the same anchors 513 00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:08,315 Speaker 1: treated as seriously as a half an hour of news. 514 00:34:08,675 --> 00:34:11,715 Speaker 1: Ted did that. And buying sports teams to have something 515 00:34:11,755 --> 00:34:14,075 Speaker 1: to put on your television station, Ted did that too. 516 00:34:15,035 --> 00:34:20,315 Speaker 1: WTCG Channel seventeen Atlanta was the fringiest of FRINGEYTV stations 517 00:34:20,515 --> 00:34:23,395 Speaker 1: when Ted Turner bought it in nineteen seventy, But then 518 00:34:23,475 --> 00:34:26,395 Speaker 1: six years later he bought first the Atlanta Braves and 519 00:34:26,515 --> 00:34:28,955 Speaker 1: then the basketball Atlanta Hawks, and he bought a couple 520 00:34:28,955 --> 00:34:32,355 Speaker 1: of satellite dishes, and the FCC made the fateful decision 521 00:34:32,435 --> 00:34:35,835 Speaker 1: to let him put Channel seventeen up on the satellite 522 00:34:36,315 --> 00:34:39,435 Speaker 1: so it could be shown on those fledgling cable systems 523 00:34:39,475 --> 00:34:41,595 Speaker 1: around the country. And the next thing he knew, the 524 00:34:41,675 --> 00:34:46,515 Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves were America's team, and Ted, who was shameless, 525 00:34:46,995 --> 00:34:50,475 Speaker 1: promptly signed the first baseball player ever to take advantage 526 00:34:50,515 --> 00:34:53,715 Speaker 1: of what we now know as free agency, Andy Messersmith. 527 00:34:54,275 --> 00:34:56,955 Speaker 1: Andy Mesersmith got what looked like all the money in 528 00:34:57,035 --> 00:35:00,755 Speaker 1: the world, more money than any baseball player had ever 529 00:35:00,915 --> 00:35:04,235 Speaker 1: gotten or or we were certain would ever get one 530 00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:15,915 Speaker 1: million dollars over three years. With one catch. Andy Messersmith 531 00:35:15,955 --> 00:35:21,715 Speaker 1: had to wear uniform number seventeen WTCG Channel seventeen. You 532 00:35:21,755 --> 00:35:24,355 Speaker 1: see where this was going. He had to wear uniform 533 00:35:24,435 --> 00:35:27,915 Speaker 1: number seventeen, and instead of having Messersmith written on the 534 00:35:27,995 --> 00:35:30,475 Speaker 1: back of the shirt over the seventeen, he had to 535 00:35:30,555 --> 00:35:36,235 Speaker 1: have the word channel. So Andy Messersmith's uniform when he 536 00:35:36,275 --> 00:35:38,475 Speaker 1: broke in with the Atlanta Braves in nineteen seventy six 537 00:35:38,555 --> 00:35:40,995 Speaker 1: as the highest paid player in baseball history, the back 538 00:35:41,035 --> 00:35:47,195 Speaker 1: of the uniform read Channel seventeen. Baseball stopped that right quick. 539 00:35:48,395 --> 00:35:50,795 Speaker 1: It stopped ted the day he decided that he should 540 00:35:50,795 --> 00:35:52,875 Speaker 1: see what it was like to manage the Braves and 541 00:35:52,955 --> 00:35:55,195 Speaker 1: if it really was as difficult as his managers had 542 00:35:55,235 --> 00:35:58,555 Speaker 1: made it seem. His lifetime record was zero and one, 543 00:35:58,755 --> 00:36:01,155 Speaker 1: and he said, yes, this is very difficult. But the 544 00:36:01,275 --> 00:36:03,635 Speaker 1: cable sports genie that one was out of the bottle 545 00:36:03,715 --> 00:36:06,435 Speaker 1: and nobody was stopped it, and he aspn ran with it. 546 00:36:07,555 --> 00:36:10,955 Speaker 1: But next came news. Even then, his crazy idea cable 547 00:36:10,995 --> 00:36:15,155 Speaker 1: news network rested squarely on the first regularly scheduled nightly 548 00:36:15,315 --> 00:36:19,675 Speaker 1: sports newscast in national television history. CNN Sports Tonight at 549 00:36:19,755 --> 00:36:24,235 Speaker 1: seven at eleven and two am Eastern, while SportsCenter was 550 00:36:24,275 --> 00:36:27,235 Speaker 1: on in those days for fifteen minutes one night at 551 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:29,835 Speaker 1: seven and then an hour the next night at ten, 552 00:36:30,035 --> 00:36:33,115 Speaker 1: and Sports Tonight was there Come News or high Water 553 00:36:33,435 --> 00:36:36,715 Speaker 1: seven nights a week. Of course, Ted Turner was not 554 00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:40,155 Speaker 1: just shameless, he was also technically penniless, so he hired 555 00:36:40,155 --> 00:36:42,595 Speaker 1: a couple of real veterans to run and anchor the thing. 556 00:36:42,675 --> 00:36:46,035 Speaker 1: Bill mcphil who helped invent the NFL on CBS and 557 00:36:46,195 --> 00:36:49,035 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, was also his idea, and his former 558 00:36:49,155 --> 00:36:52,355 Speaker 1: CBS colleague Bob Wessler, and he hired Nick Charles, who 559 00:36:52,395 --> 00:36:56,955 Speaker 1: was a star of sportscasting on the Washington and Baltimore newscasts, 560 00:36:57,275 --> 00:37:01,075 Speaker 1: but everybody else the cheapest hires they could find. In 561 00:37:01,195 --> 00:37:05,475 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, Turner sent McPhail to hire me. That 562 00:37:05,675 --> 00:37:08,475 Speaker 1: was our second interview. When I told Bill I had 563 00:37:08,515 --> 00:37:11,155 Speaker 1: made forty two thousand dollars the year before working for 564 00:37:11,315 --> 00:37:15,355 Speaker 1: Charlie Steiner in radio. Bill spit his drink halfway across 565 00:37:15,435 --> 00:37:18,835 Speaker 1: the room. We were planning on hiring six guys to 566 00:37:18,955 --> 00:37:21,795 Speaker 1: start with, for a total of ninety five thousand. This 567 00:37:21,915 --> 00:37:25,115 Speaker 1: is when they were staffing up what became CNN Headline News. 568 00:37:25,795 --> 00:37:27,835 Speaker 1: I answered that I hoped that the other five guys 569 00:37:27,875 --> 00:37:29,475 Speaker 1: he was going to hire were prepared to make it 570 00:37:29,555 --> 00:37:32,075 Speaker 1: on seven grand each, because there was no way I 571 00:37:32,195 --> 00:37:35,955 Speaker 1: was moving to Atlanta for less than sixty thousand dollars. Well, 572 00:37:35,995 --> 00:37:38,875 Speaker 1: they got me anyway, and for less than sixty thousand dollars, 573 00:37:38,955 --> 00:37:41,635 Speaker 1: But I did not move to Atlanta, thank you, Lou Dobbs. 574 00:37:42,475 --> 00:37:46,035 Speaker 1: And they got Dan Patrick and Hannah Storm and Fred 575 00:37:46,155 --> 00:37:50,155 Speaker 1: Hickman and Dan Hicks and Gary Miller and dozens of 576 00:37:50,195 --> 00:37:54,715 Speaker 1: others and reporters and cameramen and producers and executives and editors, 577 00:37:54,755 --> 00:37:58,715 Speaker 1: and one sports production assistant from the original crew of 578 00:37:58,955 --> 00:38:03,235 Speaker 1: CNN Sports wound up becoming the president of CNN Worldwide, 579 00:38:03,835 --> 00:38:08,715 Speaker 1: and another wound up becoming the president of MSNBC. ESPN 580 00:38:08,875 --> 00:38:16,315 Speaker 1: reshaped television sports news anyway, CNN created it, and early 581 00:38:16,395 --> 00:38:19,275 Speaker 1: on CNN staffed ESPN and much of the industry. And 582 00:38:19,355 --> 00:38:22,835 Speaker 1: I'm skipping how Turner mainstreamed World Cup Yachting at least 583 00:38:22,835 --> 00:38:25,835 Speaker 1: for a while, and Ted and TNT and Ted and 584 00:38:25,875 --> 00:38:28,995 Speaker 1: the Goodwill Games and Ted and World Championship Wrestling whose 585 00:38:29,075 --> 00:38:32,675 Speaker 1: matches were actually held right above the CNN newsroom, so 586 00:38:32,795 --> 00:38:35,475 Speaker 1: that often you could hear the wrestlers slamming each other 587 00:38:35,595 --> 00:38:38,835 Speaker 1: on our ceiling. And by the way, the Braves winning 588 00:38:38,875 --> 00:38:42,715 Speaker 1: fourteen straight division titles and the repopulation of Bison in 589 00:38:42,795 --> 00:38:46,275 Speaker 1: the country. It was also Ted Turner, But my favorite 590 00:38:46,315 --> 00:38:48,835 Speaker 1: Ted Turner story comes from something he did not pull off, 591 00:38:49,275 --> 00:38:52,115 Speaker 1: not that he did not try. When the football owners 592 00:38:52,195 --> 00:38:54,955 Speaker 1: forced the players out on strike in nineteen eighty two, 593 00:38:55,115 --> 00:38:58,635 Speaker 1: Ted sent me to cover it every day for eight months, 594 00:39:00,035 --> 00:39:02,955 Speaker 1: and one day he showed up at the football strike 595 00:39:03,035 --> 00:39:05,915 Speaker 1: talks to meet with the players, and when he came out, 596 00:39:05,955 --> 00:39:09,315 Speaker 1: he announced that he would be bankrolling and televising two 597 00:39:09,515 --> 00:39:12,275 Speaker 1: football games in the middle of a football strike, one 598 00:39:12,435 --> 00:39:14,715 Speaker 1: at RFK Stadium in Washington and the other at the 599 00:39:14,835 --> 00:39:17,955 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl in southern California. And basically these two games 600 00:39:17,995 --> 00:39:22,595 Speaker 1: would pit pickup teams of striking players the American Conference 601 00:39:22,915 --> 00:39:25,995 Speaker 1: versus the National Conference. And he called his two games 602 00:39:26,555 --> 00:39:30,995 Speaker 1: the All Star Season. I've mentioned this elsewhere and before. 603 00:39:31,715 --> 00:39:34,115 Speaker 1: When I asked him about the acronym for the All 604 00:39:34,355 --> 00:39:38,075 Speaker 1: Star Season, he winked at me and shushed me, and 605 00:39:38,155 --> 00:39:39,555 Speaker 1: then he took me aside and he asked me what 606 00:39:39,635 --> 00:39:41,955 Speaker 1: I thought. I told him, nobody's gonna watch and he's 607 00:39:41,955 --> 00:39:44,235 Speaker 1: gonna lose money. And he looked at me and he said, 608 00:39:44,795 --> 00:39:48,675 Speaker 1: nobody watches you. I lose money on you. So what, 609 00:39:50,155 --> 00:39:54,115 Speaker 1: we'll make money eventually. He then explained that that was 610 00:39:54,795 --> 00:39:58,395 Speaker 1: really just designed to set up the owners. If he 611 00:39:58,435 --> 00:40:01,155 Speaker 1: could put the games together and get them on TV 612 00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:04,435 Speaker 1: with no more than one month's lead time, the players 613 00:40:04,515 --> 00:40:08,315 Speaker 1: you Union was willing to partner up with him. Ted's 614 00:40:08,675 --> 00:40:13,635 Speaker 1: real motive for the ass the All Star season was 615 00:40:13,755 --> 00:40:17,475 Speaker 1: nothing less than creating his own Football League, twenty four 616 00:40:17,595 --> 00:40:20,915 Speaker 1: teams which would begin play in nineteen eighty three or 617 00:40:21,075 --> 00:40:26,475 Speaker 1: sooner if necessary, and would be televised exclusively on TBS. 618 00:40:27,675 --> 00:40:30,035 Speaker 1: All he needed was the players going along with him, 619 00:40:30,115 --> 00:40:32,875 Speaker 1: and one little labor court ruling that the owners had 620 00:40:33,035 --> 00:40:35,235 Speaker 1: forced the players Union to go out on strike and 621 00:40:35,355 --> 00:40:41,315 Speaker 1: that would allow the union to negotiate with other employers. Well, obviously, 622 00:40:41,915 --> 00:40:43,515 Speaker 1: you don't have to be a football expert to know 623 00:40:43,595 --> 00:40:45,715 Speaker 1: that he did not get that court ruling, but they 624 00:40:45,835 --> 00:40:49,835 Speaker 1: went for it. Ted Turner was shooting for nothing less 625 00:40:49,995 --> 00:40:53,155 Speaker 1: than killing off the National Football League and replacing it 626 00:40:53,275 --> 00:40:57,435 Speaker 1: with a new National Football League owned by Ted Turner, 627 00:40:57,995 --> 00:41:00,315 Speaker 1: and he was going to give the players fifty percent 628 00:41:00,355 --> 00:41:03,875 Speaker 1: of the whole league. And don't forget nearly all of 629 00:41:03,915 --> 00:41:07,275 Speaker 1: this was done on a shoe string budget, with borrowed money, 630 00:41:07,515 --> 00:41:10,075 Speaker 1: with all of his employees convinced that he was crazy 631 00:41:10,595 --> 00:41:13,235 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't last until next Tuesday. And when we 632 00:41:13,275 --> 00:41:15,435 Speaker 1: would get our paychecks at CNN in New York, we 633 00:41:15,475 --> 00:41:18,275 Speaker 1: would race each other to the bank to cash them, 634 00:41:18,795 --> 00:41:21,355 Speaker 1: just in case there wasn't going to be enough for everybody. 635 00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:26,275 Speaker 1: So whenever something causes me to get nostalgic about my 636 00:41:26,395 --> 00:41:30,955 Speaker 1: start in TV, I inevitably find myself going back to 637 00:41:31,995 --> 00:41:39,035 Speaker 1: tales of Ted Turner, Owen Lou and Missus Dobbs and 638 00:41:39,155 --> 00:41:43,675 Speaker 1: the other Missus Dobbs, Missus Dobbs one and Missus Dobbs two. 639 00:41:57,315 --> 00:41:59,075 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 640 00:41:59,115 --> 00:42:00,995 Speaker 1: you for listening. 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