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Speaker 7: It is Wednesday, January fourteenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Everyone.

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Speaker 7: We got a lot of things we're gonna get into today.

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Speaker 7: It is the off season, so it's a little less.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be weird.

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Speaker 8: Just I just want to on the show.

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Speaker 7: Well, we gotta we gotta figure out, we gotta make

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Speaker 7: some decisions here. I'm interested to see how this goes,

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Speaker 7: whether yeah, and whether we stick with three while we

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Speaker 7: start like rotating it around and try to find somebody

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Speaker 7: because you got to be a special person to sit

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Speaker 7: in that seat. Like that's a that's an interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell somebody. Well, no especially well I was saying.

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Speaker 7: I told somebody this. I said, right now, the chemistry

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Speaker 7: between Amber and Watch I think is is like really good.

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Speaker 3: I disagree, I don't.

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Speaker 9: I know you do.

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Speaker 7: That's why it's so good, right, That's exactly why it's

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Speaker 7: so good.

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Speaker 2: Running around.

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Speaker 7: But so whoever sits in that seat has to help that.

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Speaker 7: They have to contribute to that dynamic. And if they

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Speaker 7: can't contribute to that dynamic, then what are they doing?

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Speaker 2: But what are we doing?

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Speaker 10: Just a problem though, Derek. If it's only three of us,

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Speaker 10: that means it's more work for me. How that well,

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Speaker 10: because on Tuesdays, Brian to have a second something like that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That's next season, yeah, yeah, time you start working on

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Speaker 2: now sometime.

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Speaker 10: So if it's just us, all right, rash, we need

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Speaker 10: a segment to feel and I don't work here there,

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Speaker 10: so we go.

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Speaker 7: Wait, but hold on, you told me I think it

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Speaker 7: was on this show a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 2: You don't even know what I'm about to say you.

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Speaker 7: You said to me, hey, man, anytime you need me

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Speaker 7: to take take a segment like I'm in, just tell

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Speaker 7: me you want me to take a I can do

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Speaker 7: it on you.

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Speaker 2: That's what you told me.

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Speaker 3: You know. You know, when you first get a job,

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Speaker 3: you be talking all the time, and hang around black people,

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Speaker 3: be talking, you be heard.

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Speaker 10: Listen when when you first work somewhere, you're you're a

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Speaker 10: little overly ambitious. You know, you show up five minutes early,

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Speaker 10: be saying anything, I could work weekends.

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Speaker 8: You say anything plate yeah, the show.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're in. It's my sophomore campaign.

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Speaker 2: I'm not like you don't know.

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Speaker 7: If I could do a segment, I can do a minute,

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Speaker 7: I can a minute a half.

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Speaker 3: I know my strengths. I'm a really good complimentary player. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: I got especially in this kind of set, I can

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Speaker 10: host the show, but it'll have to be none of

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Speaker 10: y'all here.

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Speaker 2: It was by yourself.

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Speaker 10: I'll be by myself and I'll hold with the chat.

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Speaker 10: But with with the chat, but with this right here, man,

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Speaker 10: this is I'm a I'm a complimentary piece. I come in.

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Speaker 10: I'm depth. Let me be depth because I don't work here.

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Speaker 7: Okay, interesting, that's an interesting way to put it. But

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Speaker 7: but I'll take care of the hosting parts. You don't

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Speaker 7: have to worry about that. I don't make sure we

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Speaker 7: got something to you.

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Speaker 3: A quarterback CD lamb right.

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Speaker 10: There, there you go for you, I'm TJ Bass Wow.

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Speaker 3: TJ Bass Wow.

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Speaker 10: Hop in when you can't even me righting Illinois. You

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Speaker 10: just I practiced real hard. It's time for me to play.

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Speaker 10: I got you, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna do it every game.

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Speaker 3: I'll even play the other guard if you want me.

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Speaker 7: You won't do it every game, only some games. Some

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Speaker 7: games you're like, I'm just gonna sit over here and

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Speaker 7: just mym.

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Speaker 10: And people think that I'm better than the starter. Mm hmmmm.

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Speaker 7: So you're saying you're brock Hoffman getting to fight all

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Speaker 7: the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little stronger than that.

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Speaker 2: Actually is pretty good, pretty.

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Speaker 3: Good fight all the time.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but see see being this is this is the

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Speaker 10: thing about Brock though, Like Brocks start the fight and

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Speaker 10: then he flopped. I don't want to like flopping, you

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Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. I don't want to be flopping again.

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Speaker 3: We'll figure out.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, man, You'll start a fighting like I

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Speaker 7: didn't do that.

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Speaker 10: I'm telling you, he is painting the picture. I don't

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Speaker 10: think bro gonna play here next year, though, so that

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Speaker 10: might be even more.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to make it an hour.

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Speaker 3: I just want to be clear.

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Speaker 2: You don't get fired.

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Speaker 3: I might get fired before I retire. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So he does not do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like to do that.

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Speaker 3: I get ahead.

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Speaker 7: All right, Cool, Let's let's talk a little bit about

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Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator. There's a lot happening around that, and

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Speaker 7: quite frankly, I am very so far, very happy with

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Speaker 2: They did it quickly, which I thought was necessary.

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Speaker 7: In order to get the thing going and get you

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Speaker 7: and then just the sheer volume of candidates. They are

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Speaker 7: mixing it up and looking at a lot of different

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Speaker 7: may be the best fit for this job.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about what.

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Speaker 7: You're seeing so far and your thoughts on it, just

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Speaker 3: Derek eagleson Chris Bean. I'm about either.

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Speaker 10: I'm super casual when it comes to coaches, and then

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Speaker 10: you know what I mean, I don't know them people.

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Speaker 10: I don't really know them until I run into him.

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Speaker 10: I don't know them until like they're hired or something

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Speaker 10: like that. But just a common trend that kind of

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Speaker 10: helps me through this is that the less I know

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: Like Clayton Adams, I don't know who the hell he was,

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Speaker 10: I go, oh, well, Clayton Adams is this kind of guy,

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Speaker 3: But like, oh, we brought in Marvil Lewis.

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Speaker 10: I know Marvil Lewis, but that may not be the

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Speaker 10: most ideal pick, right, Like you know, these these coaches

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Speaker 10: we're talking to Ron river Oh, watch knows Ron Rivera.

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Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. But when they say, oh,

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Speaker 10: Oh from the Ravens. That can't be good. But you

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Speaker 10: do your research. Zach Or is highly respected. You know

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Speaker 10: for him, but they still the regular coach that they are.

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Speaker 10: Like Jim Leonard is the head, the head coach, assistant

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Speaker 10: I'm like, okay, well you ain't even the defense coordinate,

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Speaker 10: they still got something to prove. They not, oh, I've

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Speaker 10: while we're talking to so many coaches, why don't we

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Speaker 10: you explaining to us if you was a if you

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Speaker 10: in your scheme? Can you use marslea file? Can you

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Speaker 10: sure they're talking to even more people and shouts out

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Speaker 10: to them for doing something different than what they normally do.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, right now, I think it's uh, it's been six

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Speaker 11: six they finished the all of the interviews with them already.

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Speaker 11: But what gives me pause is one, I love that

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Speaker 11: we don't have someone selected just yet. I love that

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Speaker 11: they are taking their time and making, you know, the

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Speaker 11: I think that allows you to really find what you

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Speaker 11: want based on what you don't. The more you talk

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Speaker 11: to other people, you see Okay, yeah, we don't want that,

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Speaker 10: Brother Jones from the Vikings right, get them say facts.

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Speaker 10: So he So, Brian flore Is called the plays over there.

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Speaker 8: Where And there's nothing wrong with this.

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Speaker 11: Yes, those type of guys that you see how they're

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Speaker 10: Some of my pains gotta be able to cover, you know,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about.

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Speaker 7: Some some other things on these on these coaches that

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Speaker 7: they've they've interviewed. H Let's talk about the fact that

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Speaker 7: when you look at this a lot of the guys

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Speaker 7: there they're looking at are guys who have been a

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Speaker 7: part of some defenses that are the better defenses in

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Speaker 7: the league over the last couple of years. I think

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Speaker 7: you look at at Banda who is coming from Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: Cleveland obviously has Miles Garrett that goes a long way, right,

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Speaker 7: but but their defense has been a feared defense around

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Speaker 7: the league. You got Deronte Jones coming from Minnesota. Obviously

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Speaker 7: we saw firsthand what that defense can do and did

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Speaker 7: a very nice job against the Cowboys, as we also

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Speaker 7: saw with Jim Leonard who comes from Denver. And then

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Speaker 7: you look at Zach Orr, who all of the Ravens

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Speaker 7: defense was down this year. They've been a top ten

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Speaker 7: defense and this year they had a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 7: So you kind of give him a little bit of

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Speaker 7: a pass on that one. I assume you would want

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Speaker 7: to give him a little bit of a pass on that.

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Speaker 7: But it looks like they're tapping into these defenses is

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Speaker 7: that are that are really good defenses and trying to

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Speaker 7: find they're not getting the defensive coordinator, getting the guy

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Speaker 7: right under the defensive coordinator on those units and bringing

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Speaker 7: them in to talk to them and whether they're gleaning

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Speaker 7: information or whether they're you know, these guys really end

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Speaker 7: up being the candidate that they want. I think either

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Speaker 7: way it ultimately helps them. My question for you guys

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Speaker 7: is what name or names on this list of the

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Speaker 7: six guys they've interviewed most stand out to you. Who's

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Speaker 7: the guy that has has piqued your interest to the

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Speaker 7: guy you might want them to actually hire.

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Speaker 10: So let me just say this, I don't know them people.

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Speaker 10: I'm real, I'm real consistent on that. But me and

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Speaker 10: you was having a conversation off air. I hope his

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Speaker 10: answers your question, by the way, or these people gonna

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Speaker 10: think I'm taking the show over. If you look at

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Speaker 10: how the coach that came from that defense, right, if

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Speaker 10: you look at how that defense is set up, how

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Speaker 10: would you take that and put it in cowboy Land?

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Speaker 3: Like like like how would it work? Right?

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Speaker 10: So we started talking about Banda, like he comes from

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Speaker 10: the Browns. Would he be able to have that same

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Speaker 10: secondary type setup if we didn't have the talent like

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Speaker 10: the Miles Garrett or really the whole damn Front seven

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Speaker 10: over there in Cleveland. Is that a defense that's talent dependent?

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Speaker 10: Because that's a defense that's talent dependent. We got defensive tackles,

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Speaker 10: but we don't have that same kind of pass rush

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Speaker 10: that they have over there. So with that for man

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Speaker 10: pass rush, whooping feet right. So me and Derek ended

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Speaker 10: up talking about Broncos with Leonard and Jones with the Vikings,

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Speaker 10: and it was interesting how we end up, you know,

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Speaker 10: finishing that conversation before we came back there is that

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Speaker 10: if we look at how the Vikings do it, and

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Speaker 10: those guys don't really have the big talent, but they're

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Speaker 10: plug and play in that system and that system works

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Speaker 10: so well as the Broncos. They got a bunch of

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Speaker 10: guys that aren't really all pros neither except for certain

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Speaker 10: but they've grown in that system like they've developed and

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Speaker 10: gotten better over time. So if you had to ask me, hey, Voch,

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Speaker 10: would you want the Jim Leonard in which it sounds

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Speaker 10: like he can bring he can bring. You can bring

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Speaker 10: him in and fix the cowboy players around him and

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Speaker 10: maybe Mayor's lea file turns into a guy because they

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Speaker 10: teach so well, and that's something that Shotty talks about.

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Speaker 10: Or would you bring in Jones from this Viking situation

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Speaker 10: and maybe go all right, we got to retool the

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Speaker 10: whole defense, but we can plug and play your fourth

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Speaker 10: corner like Weezy works in this system because he's long,

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Speaker 10: he can do this and he can do that. I

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Speaker 10: think it's interesting and I lean on the side of

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Speaker 10: I want the teaching like shoddy ones, right, So I'm

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Speaker 10: leaning towards Leonard just in that kind of way that

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Speaker 10: if you could take the dudes that we have right

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Speaker 10: now and make those dudes better dudes, and they can

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Speaker 10: be better even when you leave and the next guy

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Speaker 10: come in, and hey, you still develop mayors, you still

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Speaker 10: turn down nez Roco into a sixteen SAT guy.

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Speaker 3: I can live with that, yep.

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Speaker 7: And that's the thing I love about about the Denver situation, sure,

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Speaker 7: is because I know you say they got dudes, but

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Speaker 7: a lot of their dudes now if we go back

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Speaker 7: a year ago, I don't know anybody was talking about

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Speaker 7: Benito like we're talking about him now, right. It's like

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Speaker 7: they went in and they turned these guys that I

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Speaker 7: think had talent into players. And that's what I'm hoping

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Speaker 7: they can do here is you got some guys that

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Speaker 7: got some talent on this team, especially the defensive tackle position.

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Speaker 2: Can you turn them into players, And can.

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Speaker 7: You turn the guys who maybe we are thinking, maybe

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Speaker 7: this guy isn't that good, can you make those guys

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Speaker 7: actually be that's a pretty good player right there. I

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Speaker 7: remember when when Bill Parcells came in here and one

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Speaker 7: of the first things he said was, you know, one

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Speaker 7: of the first things that we gotta do is we

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Speaker 7: got we gotta sign for those oh Adams. And at

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Speaker 7: the time, most people in the general public thought that

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Speaker 7: were Cowboys fans or follow up the Cowboys were like, man,

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Speaker 7: y'all need to replace y'all need to replace him, like

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Speaker 7: y'all need to replace follos as he's not that good.

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Speaker 2: But Bill was He was like, this, this guy is

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Speaker 2: a really really good player.

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Speaker 7: We need to get him signed and we'll we'll get

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Speaker 7: him right And after that that was when he began

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Speaker 7: that trajectory of really really great left tackle that was

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Speaker 7: holding things down on that left side. And I do

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Speaker 7: think that coaches sometimes can take a guy that has

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Speaker 7: talent that may not been living up to that potential,

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Speaker 7: which I think there are some of those guys on

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Speaker 7: this defense. I don't think everybody in amber. You've been

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Speaker 7: saying this all season. Everybody on the defense couldn't have

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Speaker 7: got bad at one time. Like you know, we all

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Speaker 7: these guys weren't bad players over the last several years,

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Speaker 7: So everybody didn't get bad at one time. Can you

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Speaker 7: take those guys that last year had a bad year

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Speaker 7: because of whatever reason and turn those guys into good

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Speaker 7: players and turn the guys who are already good players

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Speaker 7: into great players. That's what I want to see. And

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Speaker 7: I think that's a little more of what I saw

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Speaker 7: in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Riley Moss was not like that. The corner back.

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Speaker 10: The cornerback is the opposite of pat certain in Denver,

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Speaker 10: Riley Moss would like that in college with like that,

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Speaker 10: And look, man, there's some stereotypes going wrong. You ain't

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Speaker 10: wrong for saying it about Riley Moss was exactly that

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Speaker 10: kind of guy. But teaching in that system he works,

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Speaker 10: so shouts out de Broncos and what they do. Go

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Speaker 10: ahead and Brosar.

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Speaker 11: I think for me, my top candidate from this list

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Speaker 11: is and I agree with you, guys, with Lannard. He

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Speaker 11: he brings a certain type of structure or he would

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Speaker 11: bring a certain type of struct sure that I think

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Speaker 11: this defense needed or needs after seeing what we saw

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Speaker 11: last year, and guys looking a little bit lost at

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Speaker 11: times at a lot of times. So he has the

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Speaker 11: experience in the sense of like, now he's proven what

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Speaker 11: he can do in his position and he's able to

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Speaker 11: or I think someone that's able to adapt to things,

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Speaker 11: and that's something that you are looking for in a

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Speaker 11: DC as well. But I wanted to ask you guys

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Speaker 11: a different question, and I'll try me too. I was

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Speaker 11: doing some research just with different guys because it comes

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Speaker 11: down to what exactly are you looking for in this

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Speaker 11: person as far as like, Okay, are we talking about

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Speaker 11: best culture fit? Are we talking about leadership? Long term,

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Speaker 11: high risk, high reward type of city?

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Speaker 8: Question?

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Speaker 11: What is the main quality that's the most valuable to

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Speaker 11: you for this position?

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Speaker 7: The interesting thing is before we answer that, Coach did

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Speaker 7: answer this question in a press conference. He was asked

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Speaker 7: about that and he threw out three things that I

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Speaker 7: thought were interesting. He said, adaptable, fiery personality, and a teacher.

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Speaker 7: And I thought that was a really interesting Those are

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Speaker 7: three really interesting things that jumped out to me. And

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Speaker 7: I will say for me, of those three, the one

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Speaker 7: that I think is most important in my opinion is adaptable.

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Speaker 7: And the reason why I said that is because we

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Speaker 7: saw this year what happens when you're not adaptable, when

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Speaker 7: you can't as the season wears on, be able to

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Speaker 7: truly evaluate what players are playing well, what players are not,

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Speaker 7: and make adjustments, what schemes are working well, what schemes

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Speaker 7: are not, and make adjustments. Figure out every week who

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Speaker 7: you're playing and how to best take advantage of them.

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Speaker 7: I think one of the best jobs I've ever seen

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Speaker 7: of this was Bill Belichick in New England for many,

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Speaker 7: many years and how his defense every single week would

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Speaker 7: morph into a defense that would take away the best

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Speaker 7: option that their opponent had on offense and force them

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Speaker 7: to go to the second and the third options. And

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Speaker 7: they won a lot of games doing that, and they

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Speaker 7: could plug and play guys. They had a receiver that

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Speaker 7: they plugged in at cornerback for a game because they

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Speaker 7: had so many injuries and still made.

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Speaker 2: It work like it was.

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Speaker 7: They just had an adaptability to them that allowed them

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Speaker 7: to be able to present all kinds of problems for

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Speaker 7: opposing teams. So when you talk about all these three,

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Speaker 7: at least for me, adaptability is number one.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna keep it real simple on this first one.

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Speaker 10: Just just be better than the last guy. First and foremost,

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Speaker 10: he just be much better than the last guy. I'm

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Speaker 10: not even picking that way. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 10: if you're gonna be here for two years and go

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Speaker 10: get a head coaching job somewhere else, because if you

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Speaker 10: get a head coach Johnson Welles, you you whooped ass here.

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Speaker 10: That means you had a good year, you did your

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Speaker 10: think player. Hopefully somebody else on the staff can coach

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Speaker 10: just like you coach, don't. I don't have a great

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Speaker 10: deal of criteria here, but just the only thing I

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Speaker 10: would say is that you're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 10: flip the entire defensive roster.

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Speaker 3: You You just can't.

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Speaker 10: So what I want the next coach to be able

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Speaker 10: to do is take dudes that are here already and

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Speaker 10: just make them dues better.

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Speaker 3: That's that's just how we start.

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Speaker 10: Because the big conversation that we've been having really is

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Speaker 10: was it coaching or was it the players? Okay, cool,

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Speaker 10: make them make the players better, and then we could

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Speaker 10: talk about coaching, because if you make the players better,

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Speaker 10: then that's less that's less roster spots that you have

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Speaker 10: to fill up. Theoretically, right, like if all right, Marius.

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Speaker 10: If you can play, then we ain't gotta look too

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Speaker 10: hard at linebacker for real. We don't have to sign

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Speaker 10: a linebacker for real, that's probably not gonna happen. I'm

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Speaker 10: just I'm just making that example of all these players

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Speaker 10: that played well, how did they play bad last year?

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Speaker 10: So take the good dudes that we have, and hey, man,

680
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Speaker 10: if you can make them good dudes, even gooder boys.

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Speaker 10: Shouts out to you, or these players that maybe we

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Speaker 10: didn't lean on very much, make them able to be

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Speaker 10: sot hit around here with them.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm not too crazy about the teacher part of it,

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Speaker 11: just because that's what I would expect your position coaches

686
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Speaker 11: to do rather than the ZC. It's still an important

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Speaker 11: quality when you're trying to put everything together. But I'm

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Speaker 11: with you, Derek on the being able to adapt, adapt

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Speaker 11: to what you have and how can you make that

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Speaker 11: better or if something is not working, changing it up.

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Speaker 11: But it's gonna be really interesting real quick before we

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Speaker 11: go to break. Sorry, Derek, I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 11: your question white cutting because when that came up, and

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Speaker 11: I don't know if you had it on your runt. Sorry,

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Speaker 11: I was just like, I'm not trying. I want to

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Speaker 11: give people the opportunity, But are you guys taking that

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Speaker 11: as a series like or is it just like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 11: let's hear your feedback and all that, But are you

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Speaker 11: taking that interview as a serious candidate for it?

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Speaker 3: They can ask White Kyle whatever they want to ask them.

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Speaker 10: They can ask white Kott Nigga be like, Hey, look, bro,

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Speaker 10: we're gonna hire Jim Leonard, do you.

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Speaker 3: Think you can learn his system?

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Speaker 10: So just in case Jim Leonard go somewhere else, you

705
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Speaker 10: can step up and call players in an emergency.

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Speaker 3: You can ask white Kint anything.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Aaron, I'm gonna give you thirty seconds to dirty

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Speaker 10: Mac and I won't counter to gets you as like

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Speaker 10: a character remark dirty Mac.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 10: Hey Aaron, we probably can't talk to you too much

712
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Speaker 10: outside it is, but we brought you into Hey, what's

713
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Speaker 10: your plans if we don't fire you right now? What's

714
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Speaker 10: your plans to make our d line better? Hypothetically? Were

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Speaker 10: not bringing back Clowny he ain't coming back. Hypothetically we're

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Speaker 10: gonna trade away Kenny Clark. Can you make j Towe

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Speaker 10: good enough to how would you do that? You can

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Speaker 10: ask Aaron Whitecott anything. But to your point, I don't

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Speaker 10: think White Kyle for me, No, damn no, damn defense

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Speaker 10: coordinating here. But I think you can get value information

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Speaker 10: from you can get valuable ideas.

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Speaker 7: From Yeah, I'll say this, and I'm speaking now from

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Speaker 7: the standpoint of how I look at just employment and.

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Speaker 2: Teams in general.

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Speaker 7: You the boss teller, Well, I'm just saying like I

726
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Speaker 7: would look at it as you always want to give

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Speaker 7: a person who is in a position where it would

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Speaker 7: be a step up for them the opportunity to at

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Speaker 7: the very least give you something to think about. So

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Speaker 7: I would give him that opportunity to say, Okay, come

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Speaker 7: in and interview with us, and I want you to

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Speaker 7: lay out a plan for number one, where you think

733
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Speaker 7: we went wrong last year, how do we get better

734
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Speaker 7: and improve going into next year.

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Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes people can surprise you.

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Speaker 7: I've seen it before where you do it because it's

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Speaker 7: the right thing to do to give them that opportunity.

738
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Speaker 2: And then they get in the room and they.

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Speaker 7: Give you some really really really good information about the

740
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Speaker 7: direction that you need to go, and it intrigues you

741
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Speaker 7: and you're like, you know, if they have that ability

742
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Speaker 7: and they really can't do what they're saying they can do.

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Speaker 7: This could be a really interesting because it does keep

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Speaker 7: a certain level of continuity of understanding what we do

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Speaker 7: and how we do it as an organization. And so

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Speaker 7: I don't I wouldn't say it was just nothing. Now,

747
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Speaker 7: do I think he's the favorite at this point in

748
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Speaker 7: my mind to get the job.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 7: But you have to give him that opportunity, And I'm

751
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Speaker 7: never going to discount the fact that he could have

752
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Speaker 7: walked in that room and change some opinions.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the head coach here similar situations.

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Speaker 7: Like, I don't think they sat down with Brian Schottenheimer

755
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Speaker 7: last year thinking he's going to be our next head coach.

756
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Speaker 7: I think they gave him an opportunity. They talked to him,

757
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Speaker 7: and they were thoroughly impressed with the direction that he

758
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Speaker 7: wanted to take things and what he thought he could

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Speaker 7: bring to the table that would make their team better.

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Speaker 7: And what we saw was ended up being, I think,

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Speaker 7: to this point, pretty good higher. Now we'll see how

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Speaker 7: it ends up being long term. I think so far

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Speaker 7: it's a pretty good higher. So I do think I

764
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Speaker 7: wouldn't say it means nothing. I don't know that he's

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Speaker 7: a favorite, but I wouldn't say it means nothing.

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Speaker 3: So it's like if you fire ambro right.

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Speaker 8: Why are you got to use me as an example?

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Speaker 3: You and you and you just want to talk to

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Speaker 3: vis right.

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Speaker 2: I only work, don't speak finish, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Even I bet you it ain't great.

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Speaker 10: But I see, but you brought invite you say, man,

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Speaker 10: vich if you had to make five ideas for a

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Speaker 10: for a Dallas Cowboys D Blue, what would you do?

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Speaker 2: Your own it?

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Speaker 10: And and I give you the five best craziest, the

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Speaker 10: five best craziest ideas that we never that we never

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Speaker 10: even thought about for the d And you go, man,

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Speaker 10: I ain't never even think.

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Speaker 7: Hey, you know what, let me give you Let me

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna give you a quick little secret. If you

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Speaker 7: ever get into position where you're coming to interview with

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Speaker 7: do is give me ideas that I've never thought of,

786
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Speaker 7: Even if they're not feasible, even if there are things

787
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Speaker 7: we we honestly can't do, it will always intrigue me.

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Speaker 7: If a person is a creative thinker in any business,

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Speaker 2: So again, take it.

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Speaker 11: All your stuff will bit shut down because it's like

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Speaker 11: or we gotta look.

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Speaker 2: It'll be hard to accomplish.

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Speaker 7: But I love the I love the thinking right, And

799
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Speaker 7: I think that again goes back to my point here.

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Speaker 7: I think there is a way that Aaron Whitecotton could

801
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Speaker 7: get that job. Now, he would have to do a

802
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 7: lot in that interview, but I don't I wouldn't discount

803
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Speaker 7: that and say he's not capable of that. I just think,

804
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Speaker 7: you know, you have to give him the opportunity, and

805
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Speaker 7: what he does with that opportunity will ultimately decide whether

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Speaker 10: I would love to just interview to work here, because

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Speaker 10: I don't work here, but I would love to just

809
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Speaker 10: interview to work here. I'm gonna throw my throw my

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Speaker 10: little throw a little suit on. I'm just gonna pop

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Speaker 10: up with some ideas.

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Speaker 2: That's another important thing. How you present yourself matters.

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Speaker 10: Hey, come on, man by some bar come up here

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Speaker 2: Take a break break, We'll come back.

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883
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Speaker 7: to hit at least one topic. We'll carry some of

884
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 7: these over to next week, but I did want to

885
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: hit one topic.

886
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: From the end of season.

887
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 7: Presser Stephen Jones indicated in that press conference that he

888
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 7: expected that the two first round picks would likely go

889
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 7: on the defensive side of the ball, unless, of course,

890
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 7: a Seedee Lamb type situation was presented to them, similar

891
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 7: to what happened in twenty twenty. Here's the question I

892
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 7: have for you, guys. Would you be seeing how what

893
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 7: a premium they're placing on those two first round picks.

894
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 7: And I understand right now it's at twelve, we will

895
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 7: be at twelve and twenty good. I mean, you got

896
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: two picks in the top twenty.

897
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: That's a lot. Would you be willing to.

898
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 7: Sacrifice one of those picks for the purposes of going

899
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 7: out and we don't have to say name, but for

900
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 7: the purposes of going out and getting a really really

901
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 7: high value free agent that maybe you would trade for.

902
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: I promise I'm not gonna say his name, but they

903
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: can have him. Damn picks. I don't even want to draft.

904
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: I don't have to be here. You go get that dude.

905
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: I won't say his name so bad. Go get together

906
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: and look.

907
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 10: If you know he's a DYSGRUNTL player, right, If he's

908
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 10: a dysgrunto player at the team that he would, he won't.

909
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: Be there no more.

910
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 10: How to masgine, he might be a little cheaper, you

911
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying, because when players fall out of favor,

912
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 10: they end up That's why you know, you know, Trey

913
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 10: Diggs just kind of can just leave or whatever.

914
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: Right.

915
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 10: But if I call that team and say, hey, I

916
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 10: got the twentieth overall pick, and I'm assuming that this

917
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 10: is a bad team you trying to rebuild your roster.

918
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 10: I got the twentieth overall pick, and this pick is

919
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 10: even more valuable on draft day?

920
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: Would you be willing to give up at twelve for

921
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: that guy?

922
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: They could take twelve?

923
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: There are players in the league.

924
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 7: You'd be like, I'm giving up a twelve, that twelve pick,

925
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 7: I mean, you give up that because you can probably

926
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 7: give up more than that.

927
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: Probably have to give up that, and me.

928
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 7: Maybe next year's one, maybe next year's two or three.

929
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 7: What would you be willing to do in order to

930
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 7: get a high value free agent at a position of need.

931
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 10: Hypothetically, I think one of the better players. There are

932
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 10: many players that you can go get in free agency,

933
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 10: trade or whatever. I think pass rush is what you

934
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 10: need the most. I would spend that on a pass rusher,

935
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 10: and thinking about where Cowboys are drafting at twelve, I

936
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 10: could say these names. Ruben Bano probably won't be there.

937
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 10: He's one of the best pass rush in the draft.

938
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 10: David Bailey, pass rusher from Texas Tech. He probably won't

939
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 10: be there for you. So when the Cowboys are drafting

940
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 10: at twelve, the best pass rusher won be there, but

941
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 10: you'll still need pass rushing. So instead of going oh,

942
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 10: I could go linebacker here, I could go corners there.

943
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 10: I could take that twelfth overall pick and hypothetically get

944
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 10: one of the best pass.

945
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 3: Rush in the league. Take twelve, Take twelve.

946
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 10: Damn twelve. I don't get nothing about twelve. And if

947
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 10: I get to keep twenty, then fine, I'll just go

948
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 10: draft something else at twenty. But I think the dude

949
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 10: that you could possibly get that will require a twelfth

950
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 10: overall pick. I think that dude changes everything, and he

951
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 10: makes allegedly if it's a pass rush, he make the

952
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 10: rest of your pass rush is better. He make your

953
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 10: corners better, make your linebackers.

954
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 7: You'll probably be the most influential person in developing Donovan Azaraka.

955
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 10: He's probably a leader you know more than likely, and

956
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 10: Jim Leonard will be smiling real big if you bring

957
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 10: a player like that, because if it's the player that

958
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 10: we can all just assume you trade it away from

959
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 10: Mike Parsons. Right, So, now you take a guy that's

960
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 10: that caliber dude, maybe not as much as a pass

961
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 10: ru but right under there, and he's definitely a better

962
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 10: run defender than just a total complete dude. You can

963
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 10: have twelve because ain't no total complete dudes, especially in

964
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 10: this short window. Right If we're some other team, then

965
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 10: maybe you're drafting for the future the next five, six,

966
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 10: seven years. This dark window might be three years. So

967
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 10: I'll take the old years that gonna be here as

968
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 10: long as the Cowboys want. As long as he's the league,

969
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 10: he gonna be here. I think I think the Jones

970
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 10: is hav enough sense to keep him. I'm saying three

971
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 10: more elite years of Dak Prescott in his super quarterback prime.

972
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 10: Go get the best possible, dude. I don't care that

973
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 10: and that dude is allegedly there's a top tier pass

974
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 10: rusher that's a couple of months older than Michael Parsons.

975
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 10: That dude ain't even that old, so please go get

976
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 10: that guy for twelfth.

977
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: Overall, I don't care.

978
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 8: See this is.

979
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: Where look at a smile because you know who we're

980
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: talking about.

981
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 8: I find it very interesting.

982
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 11: Because I'm at a point where I can't fully get

983
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 11: in the cowboys shoes like we're used to know how

984
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 11: they think most of the time.

985
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Because doing things that they haven't done before exactly.

986
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 11: So this past year they have started doing things that

987
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 11: we haven't seen them do. So it's I'm curious to see. Okay,

988
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 11: because we know the past would.

989
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 2: Be like, there's no way we like our guys.

990
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 11: No way they're gonna keep those draft picks they're gonna

991
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 11: pick and don't even think about making a trade that's

992
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 11: not gonna happen. And now I'm like, well, you know what,

993
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 11: could it actually happen?

994
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Could it actually change everything? It changed how we view it.

995
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, So that's where I find it very exciting in

996
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 11: that sense. I'm okay, maybe they do something that we

997
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 11: are not expecting, but I'm all for experience. Yes, there's

998
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 11: a lot of value in younger players. I've seen it,

999
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 11: I've enjoyed it, But where has that gotten me?

1000
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 8: Nowhere?

1001
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 11: Being mad during this time of the year because I

1002
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 11: am not a step.

1003
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 8: Closer to the super Bowl where I.

1004
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 11: Want to go to one day especially this year, and

1005
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 11: I missed it because Bad Bunny is gonna be there

1006
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 11: and I'm not gonna be there Anyways, the.

1007
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: Point since they announced.

1008
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 11: Bad but I value a lot more experience now rather

1009
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 11: than drafting a player developing it. The player you know,

1010
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 11: and some of these in the first round that they

1011
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 11: come ready and they're very like an immediate impact. But

1012
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 11: I want someone with experience. I want someone that has

1013
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 11: done it before. I want someone to be that leader

1014
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 11: in that group. I want someone to.

1015
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 8: Just be ready to go.

1016
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 11: So to your question, would I give up Yes, But

1017
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 11: again I'm not a big draft person in general. I'm

1018
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 11: not holding deer and tied to those draft picks. I'm like, whatever,

1019
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 11: give me someone with experience and bring them here. However,

1020
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 11: I don't know how I feel with what position I

1021
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 11: am most interested in right now. Sure, because yes, you

1022
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 11: can see the value the defensive line. That's where it

1023
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 11: all starts, and it has a triple effect. It's gonna

1024
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 11: help everybody else behind them. But there are so many

1025
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 11: key positions that are needed in this team right now

1026
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 11: that I'm like, I don't know what I hold the

1027
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 11: most value. The defensive line, linebacker, cornerback. I don't know

1028
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 11: where I'm at currently, but yes, I would trade it.

1029
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: Well, you just teed up one day.

1030
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 10: We're gonna do some draft content for some almost You're

1031
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 10: gonna translate for me, and I'm gonna talk about picks

1032
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 10: that are nowhere near that dude that you could possibly

1033
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 10: go get. Like that dude is a dude that you

1034
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 10: drop everything you go get that guy.

1035
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: And I've been looking at the draft.

1036
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 10: I'm about seventy guys in or whatever, and there's you

1037
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 10: can't even pick me in even the best guy in

1038
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 10: the draft that the Cowboys have no shot to draft.

1039
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 10: Give me that miscellaneous disgruntle character and they can have

1040
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 10: to it.

1041
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: By the way.

1042
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 7: That's also like that. That's where I'm at with this

1043
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 7: team right now. If I were the Joneses, I'd be

1044
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 7: willing to sell out right now, and that means I

1045
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 7: am sacrificing. I am sacrificing what may happen three years

1046
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 7: from now for today. I'm like, as you said before,

1047
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 7: I have a quarterback who I think is in his

1048
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: prime and I want to maximize that wall. So for me,

1049
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 7: I'm like, if you can give me a guy, by

1050
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 7: the way, you go and get those drafted players. You

1051
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 7: may have to develop them.

1052
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: They may take a year, they may take two years,

1053
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: whatever the case might be.

1054
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 7: I need a guy that I the moment he walks

1055
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 7: in the door, I'm like, like a Quinn Williams, the

1056
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 7: moment he walks in the door, things change, like I'm like, oh,

1057
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 7: I see it already, Like I don't need to let

1058
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 7: him develop. I see it right now. And I'm at

1059
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 7: that point right now where I'm just like, I want

1060
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 7: to see and my hope is that what we've seen

1061
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 7: with them making that move with Quinn Williams quite frankly,

1062
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 7: what they did with Micah like they are being In

1063
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 7: my opinion, those are aggressive type, you know moves, and

1064
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 7: I want to see.

1065
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: More of those types of aggressive moves.

1066
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 7: Because I just want to maximize these years I got

1067
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 7: with Dak because once he's gone, then you might who

1068
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 7: knows where you're gonna be at the quarterback position.

1069
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter anyway.

1070
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 7: Worry about right now, worry about the next two years,

1071
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 7: and try to do whatever you can to get yourself

1072
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 7: back in the championship game in the next two years.

1073
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 10: The Rams sold out for everything, put themselves in cap

1074
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 10: heil Win got dudes, and they may have had one

1075
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 10: bad year yep, and they got right back on it.

1076
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 7: I think that's where the NFL is going now too.

1077
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 7: If you start thinking about these teams are starting to say, Okay,

1078
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 7: we're gonna have some great years and we're willing to

1079
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 7: take that dip for a year or two and then

1080
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 7: rebuild it like it's the The length on it as

1081
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 7: it stands is not what it once was. Where you're

1082
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 7: trying to build for the future. I just don't know

1083
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 7: if that's the NFL anymore.

1084
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: I really don't.

1085
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 8: Another thing, real quick, I know we are way passed.

1086
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: I love working today super quick.

1087
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 11: Super quick is the fact that when we see the

1088
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 11: history in drafting on defense, other than Micah, there's not

1089
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 11: a good track record for the cowboy so recent years.

1090
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 11: So that's another caveat there where it's like I'd rather

1091
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 11: take someone that has proven or himself proven already rather

1092
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 11: than take the chance and experience with somebody else.

1093
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 7: The one other caveat I'll throw into that is also

1094
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 7: look at where those picks are. The defensive guys that

1095
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 7: they've drafted have been later first round picks, the ones

1096
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 7: that have hit on the offensive side of the ball

1097
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 7: have been earlier first round picks except for Michael Right,

1098
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 7: and that's the one that works. So again, that twelfth pick,

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Speaker 7: that's a pick that the Cowboys have traditionally done really

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Speaker 7: well with no matter where they're draft, like what the

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Speaker 7: typically done pretty well with those. This once they get

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Speaker 7: into the twenties that it's kind of hit or missed.

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Speaker 7: So that twelfth pick is very, very valuable. If they're

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Speaker 7: going to trade it, they better get a guy that's

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Speaker 7: a guy like you better go get a guy if

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Speaker 7: you're gonna give up that twelfth pick.

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Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate you, guys, Johnes.

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Speaker 7: So we're back next week and we'll talk a little

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Speaker 7: bit more about some of the things that came out

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Speaker 7: of the end of season press conference. We'll also start

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Speaker 7: talking a little bit about looking forward and now thinking

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Speaker 7: about what the Cowboys they have to do with free agency,

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Speaker 7: what they have to do with the draft. We'll start

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Speaker 7: getting in some of those conversations. We'll be back Dallas Cowboy,

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Speaker 7: I mean, until next week. Watch Lombardi, Alma, Garcia, Derek

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