1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on dan Board, and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast the Gotta give Me some dollars 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: and cents dollars and cents audition as I discussed the 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Bengals free agent acquisitions with Sam Monson from Pro Football Focus. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Then you'll hear from one of those free agents, pass 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: rusher Terrell Basham, who joined the team this week. Did 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: you know that a Bengals player won the NFL Ping 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Pong title this offseason? I'll talk to him. And finally, 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: it's the sixth edition of our three round NFL Expert 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Mock Draft. 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It's been nearly ten 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: years since Chris Collinsworth purchased a majority stake in Pro 26 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Football Focus and eventually moved the company to downtown Cincinnati. 27 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: I've had the chance to visit PFF headquarters on several occasions, 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: and this week I caught up with one off's top 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: NFL analysts, Sam Monson. Sam, let's start with the Bengal's 30 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: biggest offseason acquisition, literally and figuratively, Orlando Brown Junior. They 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: got a proven left tackle for four years sixty four mill. 32 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: That's almost exactly what the Falcons gave safety Jesse Bates. 33 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: Your reaction to that acquisition for Cincinnati, You know, obviously, 34 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I think it was clear quite early on in the 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: process that they were never really going to give Jesse 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: Bates the big extension. They were always sort of planning 37 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: that he would depart at some point. They were going 38 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: to play out the contract franchise tag him and then 39 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: eventually he would move on. So from a sort of 40 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: position value standpoint, it makes a ton of sense. Right, 41 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: You've gone from a safety which is at the lower 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: end of the value scale in terms of the impact 43 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: that they can make on winning and losing games, and 44 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: converted that into a left tackle, which is I think 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: at the other end of the scale and probably even 46 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: more valuable when you already have the likes of Joe 47 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Barrow and Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins, like the other 48 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: positions that are high up in that value hierarchy are 49 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: already there and you want to make sure that that 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: increases or the effect that those guys have is as 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: big as it can possibly be. So I think it 52 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: made a ton of sense. I don't think it was 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: necessarily something they were planning on all the way, but 54 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: once it became possible, I think it was a great 55 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: signing for them and a deal, and when we look 56 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: at some of the other tackle contracts that were signed, 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: it's reasonably cheap. Totally agree. How does PFF view Orlando 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Brown Junior among the better tackles in the NFL? Yeah, 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: I think he's always been a good, not great tackle, 60 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: and that's both at right tackle and left tackle. But 61 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: there's a ton of value in that. So he's never 62 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: going to be a top five player at that position, 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: but he's probably always going to be a top half 64 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: player at that position and lock you in a guaranteed 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: level of good play. And sort of ironically for a 66 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: guy of his size and mentions, he's probably a better 67 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: pass blocker than he is a run blocker and always 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: has been. He's despite he's a very strange player because 69 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: you know that the tape at Oklahoma was obviously really good. 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: His workout was catastrophic, you know, one of the worst 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: combined performances of any player ever, and then showed up 72 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: and showed that it didn't matter. Like he can come 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: into the NFL, whether it's right tackle, left tackle, whether 74 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: it's two different offenses. He's always been good and he's 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: been this consistent presence for them. So yeah, I think 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: he's he's not a superstar, but he's a good starting 77 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: left tackle. How do you view the options at right tackle, 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: whether it's the guys on the roster or possibly somebody 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: in the draft. Yeah, I don't know that they have 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: that position locked up yet. Obviously Lyle Collins was supposed 81 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: to be that guy. Between the injury and the fact 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that he wasn't really the player that he used to be, 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: presumably due to you know, previous injuries just taking their toll. 84 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: He hasn't. I don't think really solidified that spot. Jonah 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Will would be an interesting player to kick over the 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: right tackle if they can keep him around instead of 87 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: dissuade him from getting traded away. Other than that, I 88 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: think that's the one spot along that offensive line where 89 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: you look at it and say, we'd like to add 90 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: another player there just to increase the chances of that 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: spot is okay because we've seen the hakim idenergy, you know, real, 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: We've seen how that works and they have to go 93 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: to him at right tackle and it's not pretty. We'll 94 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: see if you draft one later when we put you 95 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: on the mock simulator and do a three round Bengals draft. 96 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Other significant signings for the Bengals safety Nick Scott he 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: get a three year, twelve million dollar deal. Tight end 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: Irf Smith, junior cornerback Sidney Jones, edge rusher Terrell Basham 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: all got one year deals. Do any of those names 100 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: move the needle for you? I really like the kind 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: of shot to nothing that IRF Smith is. You know, 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: he was a high draft pick from Minnesota, never really 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: panned out for them, but just because of injuries. I 104 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: mean every season you would hear those guys talk up 105 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the potential that IRF Smith Junior has in that offense 106 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: and what he could be as a pass catcher. And 107 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: it's a little bit like the Hayden Hurst move where 108 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: you bring in a guy with this sort of former 109 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: elite pedigree of status draft position that hadn't worked out 110 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL or hadn't been the player that he 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: was supposed to be and see if you can kind 112 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: of resurrect that. And I think there's a lot of 113 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: mileage in that. When you have a Joe Burrow, you 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: know you have an offense it's as good as the 115 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: one that they have. It should raise the level of 116 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: sort of bit part players, no matter who they are. 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: And when you have a player getting their level raised 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: who had sort of prior ability, I think it's a 119 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: great gamble. Like if he if the same thing happens 120 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: and he's the same player he was in Minnesota injured, 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: not really a big part of the offense. It doesn't 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: cost you an awful lot, but if you end up 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: rediscovering the player that the Vikings thought they had for 124 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: a few years, it's potentially a huge payoff of their 125 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: own free agents. The one starter that they kept was 126 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: linebacker Main Pratt, very reasonable deal, three years, twenty one mill. 127 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: He got tremendous PFF grades last year, much higher than 128 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: he had had previously. Do you view that as kind 129 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: of an outlier situation or do you think he can 130 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: sustain it? And if so, that would seem to be 131 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: a great value signing to me. Yeah, that's a big question. 132 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: He's like a sort of a light version of Tremaine 133 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Edmonds in terms of, you know, young player who had 134 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: that career year was a big outlier relative to the 135 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: rest of their NFL performance and very weighted towards coverage. 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, he made a lot of big plays in 137 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: coverage versus the run and all that kind of stuff. 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: So for both those guys, I think you always have 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: questions about what that's going to be going forward when 140 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: it is such a big departure from previous because you 141 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: can look at it in two ways. You can either say, well, 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: this is just how long it took for the light 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: to go on, which I think is a valid argument 144 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: for linebackers. Today's NFL is a nightmare world for off 145 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: the ball linebackers. Those guys are put in a bind 146 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: every single play. They're being stretched vertically horizontally. They're having 147 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: to contend with runs that look like passes passes that 148 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: look like runs. It's a horrible position to play right now. 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: I think that's why when you look at PF grading, 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: there's very few linebackers that are grading well right now. 151 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily because the linebackers are 152 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: worse than they were, you know, ten years ago. It's 153 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: because the position is a lot harder than it used 154 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: to be and the grading hasn't adjusted to reflect that. 155 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: So you can look at it that way, or you 156 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: can say it's a career year. It's coming, you know, 157 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: after a few years of bad play. It's largely in coverage, 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: which we know is a volatile, dependent type of facet 159 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: of play. Maybe we should just be a bit more 160 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: careful about that. And for Pratt, I think the deal 161 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: he got like that's exactly the kind of gamble I 162 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: would happily take. It's reasonably low priced, you can bank 163 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: on the idea that maybe the light did go on 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: versus Tremaine Edmonds, where you're giving him top of the 165 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: market deal and hoping the same thing. It's true. We're 166 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: chatting with Sammonson from Pro Football Focus. They lost Bell 167 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and Bates, they lost tight end Hayden Hurst, they lost 168 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: running back some J P. Ryan. Is there anybody on 169 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: that list that you think is going to be really 170 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: hard to replace? Not really, I think. I mean, obviously 171 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates replacing him and in particular, you know, losing 172 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: both safety safeties at the same time is potentially problematic. 173 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: But they knew Bates was going to be gone very 174 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: early on. Maybe they thought they would keep von Bell 175 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: and try and keep that intact, so that losing both 176 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: of them I think has the potential to cause some hiccups. 177 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: You know, Dax and Hill should be able to come 178 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: in and at least future proof one of those spots, 179 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: but trying to replace both of your starting safeties at 180 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the same time as at least not ideal. But they're 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: all replaceable players. You know, they're either at positions that 182 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: are reasonably low value, or they're players that weren't stellar 183 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: to begin with. So I think those are just the 184 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: moves you have to make when you you know you're 185 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: planning where the money is going to go on a roster, 186 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, locking up a ton of cash in either 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: the big free agents that they've got this year or 188 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Joe Borrow, jamar Chetti's those guys going forwards. So extending 189 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Burrow is obviously the number one priority. It's going to 190 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: cost more than fifty million dollars a year. Are you 191 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: of the mind that it's even possible to sign Burrow 192 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: and keep both Higgins and Chase? Yeah, So there's there's 193 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: a couple of different parts of that. There's the is 194 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: it possible from a salary camp standpoint? And then the 195 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: second part is it possible from just a cash outlay standpoint? 196 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: You know? But the Bengals are a team that doesn't 197 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: play in the world of the the Walton family or 198 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the you know, the the Cronkys, where they have just 199 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: unlimited billions sitting around to deploy anytime they want. They 200 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: probably have to think about the amount of cash that 201 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: has to get thrown into an escrow when you sign 202 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: every one of these giant contracts. So that is its 203 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: own question that I have no part of. I don't 204 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: see the accounts from a salary camp standpoint, it's doable. 205 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: It's obviously challenging, and you can only sign so many 206 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: of those big deals, But when you look at where 207 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: they have the money allocated, it's in the right kind 208 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: of places. You know that if you were saying you 209 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: only have four or five big contracts to hand out, 210 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: everybody else has got to be playing on low end 211 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: of the market money. They would be signing them in 212 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: the right areas quarterback, number one wide receiver, maybe number 213 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: two wide receiver, pass rusher, left tackle, like they're ticking 214 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: off the right spot. So I think if they want 215 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: to keep those three guys around, they can do it. 216 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: It's probably more likely that they just keep the two, 217 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow and maybe te 218 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Higgins they sort of played out the same way that 219 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates was played out. Or if somebody phones up 220 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: with a trade offer involving a number one draft pick, 221 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: maybe that changes the dynamic. So we're several weeks before 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: the draft, most of free agency is behind us. Do 223 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: you feel better about the Bengals Super Bowl chances going 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: into this coming season then you did going into last season? 225 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I liked what they did last year. I thought they 226 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: played saw season extremely intelligently. I think it would have 227 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: been very easy to kind of get lost in their 228 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: own hype and say, we made the super Bowl. You know, 229 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: we're heading in the right direction. Everything's good, we don't 230 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: need to do anything crazy. But they understood that that 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: offensive line needed serious work if they were even going 232 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: to get bank, you know, in the same kind of position. 233 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: And I think by and large, they were a better 234 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: team this year than they were the year before. So 235 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: I was very high on them going into last season. 236 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I think at the moment, I'm probably in the same 237 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: kind of area. I think they've done good work. I 238 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: like the Orlando Brown edition. I think generally they they've 239 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: kind of between the players that they've let go the 240 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: players they brought in, they've probably treaded water. And now 241 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: we get to see what the draft brings and we 242 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: will see who you will pick in a three round 243 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: mock simulator Bengals Draft coming up a little bit later 244 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to 245 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: you by Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Bengals, 246 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: with more than one hundred and twenty care facility and 247 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred care providers. Kettering Health is committed to guiding 248 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: you to your best health. Visit Kettering health dot org 249 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: to learn more. The Bengals have signed six free agents 250 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: from other organizations so far, the latest being edge rusher 251 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Terrell Basham. He's six four, two hundred and sixty five 252 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: pounds and a former Ohio Bobcat. He was the MAC 253 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year in two sixteen, when he 254 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: led the conference in sacks with eleven and a half. 255 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: Basham was drafted by the Colts and has also played 256 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: for the Jets, Cowboys, and Titans in his six NFL seasons. 257 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: I caught up with him on Thursday throughout when you 258 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: agreed to your deal with the Bengals. Recently, your agent 259 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: tweeted back home with an exclamation point. You're from Virginia, 260 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: but you went to Ohio University. Just being back in 261 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: the state of Ohio feel like home to you. Yeah, Honestly, 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: I gotta say it does, because I have played football 263 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: and mcgie since I was eight, you know, But the 264 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: moment in my life when I feel like I came 265 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: alive was definitely an Ohio University. You know and something 266 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,359 Speaker 1: about playing football in Ohio. It was special. Your defensive 267 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: coordinator at Ohio was Jimmy Burrow, Joe's dad. Joe was 268 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: playing quarterback in high school when you were going to college. 269 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Describe your relationship with Joe and Jimmy and the Burrow family. 270 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: Coach Burrow was my coordinated all four years. And I 271 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: did get a chance to him and UH coach William 272 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Williams, both of their sons both played at at 273 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Athens High School at the time, So I had a 274 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: chance to see I had a chance because a couple 275 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: of games in high school, and you know, they would 276 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: always talk about him. We read about him, you know 277 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Locally, you know you you would hear 278 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: about him like he was. He was that guy to 279 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: a young age, you know what I'm saying, always clutching 280 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: the most clutch moments. So when his career took off 281 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: at LSU and he won the Heisman and he won 282 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: the national championship, did you feel kind of like an 283 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: insider having seen him a little bit in high school. Yeah, honestly, 284 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like an insider, Like I was 285 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: honest like a fan at that point. You know I was. 286 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: I was always a fan of him. But you know 287 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like because like I knew like the 288 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: potentially hit you know, he he he went to Ohio State. 289 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: You know he was clearly like a talented guy. You 290 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from from from a very good age. 291 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: When he got on that stage and did what he did, 292 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I think he earned the world's respect. You know, no 293 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: question about that. We're visiting with Terrell Basham. You're twenty nine, 294 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: You've got six NFL seasons under your belt. What appealed 295 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: to you about Cincinnati? Um tis to win? Uh, Like 296 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: you said, tend to get back in Ohio play football again. 297 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, an opportunity, you know what I'm saying, to 298 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: show that I'm hungry that I can kind of trush. 299 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: We'll get to the quarterback. You know what I'm saying. 300 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: I can contribute to a playoff team and a super 301 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: Bowl team. You're the all time record holder for sacks 302 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: at Ohio you with twenty nine and a half. You've 303 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: got eleven so far in the NFL plus five forced fumbles. 304 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: Is that past rushing ability the biggest thing that you 305 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: feel you bring to Cincinnati? That and like I'm I'm 306 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: a I'm a very like energy. I'm a big energy guy. 307 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Like so I push the energy. I'm a bit I 308 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: ort to carry myself. You know what I'm saying. I'd 309 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: be good around the young guys. I have the young guys, 310 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, prepaired mentally on the mental side, 311 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, for what's to come through a season. You know, 312 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals already have great leadership, you know, and uh 313 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: and the guys that they have and on the on 314 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: the program already. I'm kind I'm just happy to be 315 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a part of it. So, Terrell, your first NFL sack 316 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: was against the Bengals at pay Court Stadium when you 317 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: were rookie with the Colts. Do you remember it? Yeah, 318 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: I remember. I was on the right side. I came off, 319 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: just gave like a little speed to power move on 320 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: the left tackle and think the quarterback with Andy Dalton 321 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: at the toe, that is correct, down went the red rifle. 322 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: So the Colts drafted you in the third round back 323 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. And here are some of the past 324 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: rushers from your draft, Miles Garrett, T. J. Watt, Hassan Reddick, 325 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson and your new teammate Trey Hendrickson. Is it 326 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: a point of pride to be part of that draft 327 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: class and doesn't motivate you? It was, definitely it's to 328 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: be a part of that class, you know what I'm saying. 329 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I was a big class as far 330 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: as rush. We're still a lot of us in the lead, 331 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: still making noise, you know. So I'm just trying to 332 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: sway Hey, I'm still here in the league and say, 333 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: have you had any contact with any of your new teammates? Yeah, 334 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: I talked to uh. However, he reached out to me 335 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: on Instagram and gave me his number and told me 336 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: if I need anything, let me know because he's a 337 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: Cincinnati guy. So actually saw trade when I went in 338 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: for my visit. So you got a taste of the 339 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: playoffs with the Cowboys a couple of years ago. Did 340 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: that wet your appetite to be on an NFL contender? Well, definitely. 341 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: You know, I spent the enough of years on teams 342 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: that weren't even looking to go to the playoffs at 343 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the end of the year, and then that right, that 344 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: like being on a winning team is nothing like it. 345 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Nothing like winning It's nothing like being a part of 346 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: something that you feel special like that. You know, I 347 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: see that these these guys been, you know, trying to 348 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: win to both strong for the past two years for sure, 349 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: and they're booting will they got a great quarterback, They're 350 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: they're booting around, and I see nothing but good things 351 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: in the tut I know you had a thigh injury 352 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: last year and only played in seven games. That's not 353 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: ideal going into free agency. Do you feel like you 354 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: have anything to prove? My hoath is one hundred percent. 355 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: But as far as I always always feel like I 356 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: have something to prove. You know, you have a small 357 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: school guy, you know, come out of a mat always 358 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: kind of well. Bengals fans are excited to have you, 359 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: look forward to getting to know you better and I 360 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: appreciate your time today. Congratulations on signing with Cincinnati. Thank 361 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: you so much. The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to 362 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: you by pay Corps. More than twenty nine thousand customers 363 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: trust pay Corps to help them recruit, pay engage, and 364 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: retain employees. Learn more at paycorp dot com. My next 365 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: guest is a free agent who is staying with the 366 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Bengals after signing a one year extension wide receiver and 367 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: punt returner Trent Taylor, who added another title to his 368 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 1: resume this offseason. Trent, let me start with congratulations, not 369 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: for the contract extension, We'll get to that, but for 370 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: winning the Battle of the Paddles, the Procter and Gamble 371 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: sponsored NFL Player Ping Pong Championship at the Super Bowl 372 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: that you won. How did you get involved? Yeah, it 373 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: was like three days before the tournament started and my 374 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: marketing lady just hit me up. She was like, do 375 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: you play ping pong? Yes? Yes, I played a little 376 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: bit of ping pong, but yeah, So then I flew 377 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: out there and did the tournament, won the whole thing. 378 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: It was a great time. So you beat Trevor Lawrence 379 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: in the semifinals, you beat Christian McCaffrey for the championship. 380 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: The level of ping pong was excelent. I watched it 381 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: on YouTube. People that are interested in this, just look 382 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: up Battle of the Paddles. You can find the whole telecast. 383 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: When did you start playing? And as far as you know, 384 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: is this a staple now of NFL locker rooms? I 385 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: think it's definitely a staple. I think it's like become 386 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: more and more popular, you know. I remember we used 387 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: to play it all the time and San Francisco and 388 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: then come here to Cincinnati and everybody's playing it here 389 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: in the locker room too. And then you talk to 390 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: guys around the NFL, you you learned that everyone kind 391 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: of has a ping pong table in the locker room. 392 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: It's just such an easy sport to play, just you know, 393 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: hanging out with the guys playing ping pong. It's a blast. 394 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, I've played for a long time. My 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: grandfather used to play in a league growing up, so 396 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: then we would go watch him sometimes and we would 397 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: play against him, and he would always he would always 398 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: beat us, no problem. And he he was like seventy 399 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: something years old. We still couldn't touch him. So that's 400 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of where we started playing it. 401 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Me and my brother and my cousins all grown up. 402 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: We always played it. So, yeah, something I've always played 403 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. How did your Bengals teammates react 404 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: or they saw that you won the NFL Battle of 405 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: the Paddles. There a lot of them hit me up there, 406 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: like we knew that was gonna happen and something like 407 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: Mitch Wilcox. He was kind of mad he didn't get 408 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: invited because like me and him, we always go back 409 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: and forth together. Yeah, a couple of my friends that 410 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: I know across the NFL that weren't invited. They were 411 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: kind of pissed because they, you know, they've beat me before, 412 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: but I usually beat them. But they were like, dude, 413 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: I would have beat you. Blah blah blah. A lot 414 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: of trash talk going on. So it was good. Though. 415 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: We're sitting here in front of your locker. The gigantic 416 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: Championship belt that you received is not on display, at 417 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: least not yet. Will it make its way to Cincinnati. 418 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I should just for bragging rights in the locker 419 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: room and make sure you know nobody gets about that. 420 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: It's in my It's in my man cave at the 421 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: house right now. But that might be a good idea 422 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: to bring it out. Of course, then they might want 423 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: to play you for it. It's not up for sale. 424 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: It's not up for sale. Visiting with Trent Taylor. Let's 425 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: get to the contract. When the news broke that you 426 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: were going to stay in Cincinnati on a one year extension, 427 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: you tweeted, year seven right where I want to be. 428 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Did you go into this phase of free agency thinking, 429 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: if the Bengals make a good offer, I'd like to stay, 430 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: or did you owe it to yourself to see everything 431 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: that might be out there. Yeah. I mean from the 432 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: beginning of free agency, I knew I wanted to come back, 433 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: and you know everything that they were telling me in 434 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: my agent and they said they wanted me back, and 435 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, I was hoping for a little bit more money, 436 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: which you know everyone does. I guess so, but yeah, 437 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: I didn't even really listen to offers from other teams. 438 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I was as long as they gave me something decent, 439 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: I was going to take it. So, yeah, that's what 440 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: that's what happened. I'm glad it happened. And you know, 441 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: I was trying to get it done as soon as 442 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: possible because I knew this was exactly where I wanted 443 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: to be. Last year, you played in all nineteen games, 444 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: including the postseason. You were the only Bengals player to 445 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: return a punt and finished third in the NFL and 446 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: punt return yardage. What did you think of your season? 447 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: If you told me my stats before the season, I 448 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: would I would be like, Yeah, that would be great. 449 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: I would love to have that kind of season. But 450 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was having a great year and kind 451 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: of started my stats card started falling off a little 452 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: bit towards the end of the season, which I wish 453 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened. I wish it would have kind of 454 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: kept going up. But you know, I definitely learned a 455 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: lot about myself, learned learned a lot more about returning punts, 456 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: and so I think it's gonna be great for me 457 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: going into this next year. I think I learned a 458 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: lot from last season. You've been a Bengal for two years. 459 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: You went to the super Bowl in year one, in 460 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game in year two. How much has 461 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: this at your appetite to try to get back. Yeah. 462 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: We these two years in Cincinnati have been have been crazy, 463 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Like you said, the super Bowl and the AFC Championship, 464 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's just kind of the standard around here. Now. 465 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: We know that we'll always have that team to compete 466 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: and you know, win playoff games as long as we 467 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: got Joe Burrow back there. Obviously. You know, there's a 468 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: great nucleus of guys that we got here in Cincinnati, 469 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm happy to be a part 470 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: of it and I'm ready to go once more playoff games. 471 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Is it that simple that when you have a Joe 472 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: Burrow one of those guys, you figure we're gonna be 473 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: in the mix every year for the most part. Yeah, 474 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: that's what you You know, there's only so many guys 475 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL that are game changers, like like Joe is, 476 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: And uh, it's not something that you can teach. It's 477 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: either you kind of either have that it factor about 478 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: yourself or you don't. So whenever you have a guy 479 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: like that on your team, you I mean, as an organization, 480 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure they know we got nine back there, and 481 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: so they're trying to connect every piece possible, you know, 482 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: putting you know, putting it all on the table right 483 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: now to make these Super Bowl runs continue and eventually 484 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: win one. The Bengal surprised many of us by signing 485 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: the best available free agent offensive linemen in Orlando Brown. 486 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: Were you surprised? Every year? You're kind of surprised of 487 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: what happens because you know, everyone kind of has in 488 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: their head what they think will happen. But at the 489 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, we really don't know the details 490 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: of everything that goes on in the front offices. Yeah, 491 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: there's there's so many moving parts that go into every 492 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: every free agent move. Every little detail in the off 493 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: season changes changes another one. So there's always moving parts. 494 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: There's always moves that will happen that are surprising to hear, 495 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: surprising to see. So I think that's just part of 496 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: the NFL. You never know what's going to happen, and 497 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: you just got to keep moving with it. As an 498 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: offensive player. What's your reaction to landing a four time 499 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl left tackle. I mean, that's you can't ask 500 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: for anything better than that. Obviously, he's going to be, 501 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like that. There's no doubt he's 502 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a leader in this locker room and on 503 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: this team, just from the experience that he has as 504 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: a left tackle and all the success that he's had 505 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: as a player and playing for the Chiefs obviously. So yeah, 506 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to meeting him and getting to know 507 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: him and watching him lead this team. I mentioned your 508 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: tweet earlier that began with year seven. You're five eight, 509 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: one eighty one. There are guys your size in the NFL, 510 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: but not Manny, what's it mean to you now to 511 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: be going into your seventh NFL season and to have 512 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: overcome the odds that go with being your size. It 513 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: means a lot, man it. Um. You know, if you 514 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: would have told me I was gonna be like my 515 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: rookie year, when somebody tells me they're in year seven 516 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: or eight or something like that, it would just like 517 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: blow my mind because that's like seemed like light years away. 518 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, here I am somehow, by the grace 519 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: of God, I'm still playing, still living my dream. I'm 520 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: still doing what I love to do. And you know, 521 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: been been through a lot of ups and downs in 522 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, but it's about just getting back up and 523 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, controlling everything that you can control as a 524 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: player and not getting lost in the you know, the 525 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: emotions of the game of like maybe losing a starting 526 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: spot or you know, I went to practice squad my 527 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: first year here. Um. You know, I think the guys 528 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: who just learned how to control what they can control 529 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: are the ones that make it far in the NFL. 530 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: So that's that's what I've been trying to do. So 531 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: in addition to the battle for the paddle in Arizona. 532 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Have you been up to in the offseason. I just 533 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: got back from Hawaii not too long ago. When I 534 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: was I was negotiating the contract, it was like five am, 535 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: Hawaii times, and you know, my agent's blowing me up 536 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: at five am. I'm like, dude, I'm on vacation right now. 537 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to trying to sleep. But you know, you 538 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: get up early and do negotiations, you know, with the Bengals. 539 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: So it's good. We finally got it done. Got to 540 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: enjoy vacation a little bit. So yeah, it was a 541 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: good time. It's a good way to see the Hawaii sunrises, 542 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: get up, negotiate a new deal, and here it comes 543 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: the sun. It really was. It was a lot of fun. 544 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: You get up early, negotiate a deal, you know, get 545 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: everything confirmed, and then you go enjoy the day. So 546 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: it was a good time. It'll be something I always 547 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: remember for sure. Congratulations on the extension. Great to have 548 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: you back. I hope you bring the championship belt. I'd 549 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: like to see it in person. I think I'll do 550 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: that now that you keep asking, Yeah, I'll do that. 551 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: I'll do that for you. The Bengals Booth By podcast 552 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. 553 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: There free to play with tickets and sign merchandise up 554 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals app. Now time 555 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: for our sixth edition of the three round mock Draft 556 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: with an NFL expert. Here's the concept. When I attended 557 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: the NFL Combine several weeks ago, I had the Pro 558 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Football Focus Mock Draft simulator set up on my laptop 559 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: and invited several NFL experts to make the Bengals picks 560 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds while discussing their options. If 561 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: you've never tried a draft simulator before, it allows you 562 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: to play GM for as many rounds of the draft 563 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: as you want. The simulator begins making picks in order, 564 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: and then when it's your turn, you can make trades 565 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: or go ahead and pick. It's a great way to 566 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: get to know the players who might be available when 567 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals are on the clock later this month. So far, 568 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: our experts have chosen the following players in the first round. 569 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Two have selected Utah tight end Dalton Kincaid. Two others 570 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: have picked Maryland cornerback Deonte Banks, and one chose Oregon 571 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: State tight end Luke Musgrave. In the second round, two 572 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: experts picked Northwestern defensive lineman at A Tommy wa at 573 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: A bare and the other picks were Washington State linebacker 574 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: Dayon Henley, Syracuse offensive tackle Matthew Bergeron and Illinois safety 575 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: Sydney Brown. And in the third round, there have been 576 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: five different picks Iowa tight end Sam Laporta, byu offensive 577 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: tackle Blake Freeland, Maryland cornerback Jakoyan Bennett, UAB running back 578 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Dwayne McBride, and Texas A and M running back Devon 579 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: a Chain. After you make your picks on the simulator, 580 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: PFF gives you a grade, and the highest marks so 581 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: far have been a pair of A minuses for Dane 582 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Burgler of the Athlete and Austin Gale from the Ringer. 583 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: Now time for contestant number six. All right, time for 584 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: our next version of the three round mock draft with 585 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: an NFL expert, Sam Monson, who we heard earlier on 586 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: the podcast from Pro Football Focus, has the simulator in 587 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: front of him. You have an advantage compared to some 588 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: of the previous people that have done this in that 589 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: you work at PF. You know how to get a 590 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: good grade on this, but in any case, I'm sure 591 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: you're going to make your picks appropriately based on who 592 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: goes off the board. So we will hit start draft. 593 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: We'll see some of the people as they are selected. 594 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: Bryce Young going number one overall to the Carolina Panthers. 595 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks are flying off the board. CJ. Stroud was 596 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: a top ten pick. We are up to pick number seventeen, 597 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: seeing some wide receivers and skill position talent go off 598 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: the board. Kalijah Kancie just was taken number twenty one. 599 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: That's a name that a lot of Bengals fans are 600 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: intrigued by. Deante Banks just selected number twenty seven by Buffalo. 601 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: That's been a guy that a couple of our previous 602 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: experts have taken at number twenty eight. You do not 603 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: have that option. What do you think of some of 604 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: the guys that have just been selected and some of 605 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: your options. I mean, this was an unusual draft, right 606 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: looking at the just the top there we got Bryce Young, 607 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: will Anderson was our number one two. So the Houston 608 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: Texans did the thing that started to come up recently, 609 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: which is maybe they don't take a quarterback at number two. 610 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez number three This is a very strange top 611 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: of the draft. I gotta say it's he's number one 612 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: on the remaining board right now. But the idea of 613 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: putting Dalton Kincaid in the Cincinnati offense is incredible to me. 614 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think Kinkaid is by far 615 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: the best tight end in this draft. And I didn't 616 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: expect to think that when I went into the tape 617 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: of all the tight ends. I expected to like Michael 618 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: Mayer much more than I like Kincaid because of almost 619 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: how those two guys were being billed sort of one 620 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: dimensional pass catcher versus the all around, sort of throwback 621 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski style of tight end. But I actually think 622 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Kinkaid is so much better as a pass catching option 623 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: that you know, given that the Bengals can deploy multiple 624 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: tight ends already, Kincaid in this offense could put that 625 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: to something to to a completely different level. Dalton Kincaid 626 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: graded number fifteen overall by PF. That's your pick. Anton 627 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: Harrison was still there on the board, but you elect 628 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: to go with the tight end. Do you think he 629 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: will be there at number twenty eight? I don't. I 630 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: think there's too many teams in the middle of the 631 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: first round and in the twenties that have a need 632 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: to tight end. I think he's too special of a 633 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: player at that spot. I'd be amazed if you last 634 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: as far as the Bengals pick. So Sam joins two 635 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: of our previous experts, Pete Prisco and Charles Davis in 636 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: selecting Utah tight end Dalton Kincaid. He's obviously been available 637 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: on the PFF simulator, but on most of the recent 638 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: mock drafts I've looked at he has gone before picked 639 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: number twenty eight. Lan Zerline from NFL dot Com has 640 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Dalton going fifteenth to the Packers, and in his latest 641 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: mock draft for CBS, Pete Prisco has the Utah tight 642 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: end going eighteenth to Detroit. Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL 643 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: Network now ranks Dalton kincaide as the ninth overall player 644 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: in this year's class. Now time to find out who's 645 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: Sam Monson selected in round two. The Bengals have picked 646 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: number sixty and Cincinnati is now on the clock. Yeah, 647 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: so we've got Tank Dell, the wide receiver from Houston, 648 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: is a really intriguing player, a guy that I am 649 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: a lot higher on than a lot of other people. 650 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: He was my number four wide receiver in this draft, 651 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: whereas I think a lot of people would have him 652 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: seven eight nine something like that. We've had I think 653 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: a bit of a run on cornerbacks based off the 654 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: guys that are left. We've got Julius Brents from Kansas State, 655 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: who's ranked number fifty one on the PFF Big Board. 656 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of the interior offensive linemen taken. 657 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: The tackles are all pretty much gone. If you were 658 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: looking for a right tackle, I think you're probably gonna 659 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: struggle at this spot. I think based off his tape overall, 660 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: based off his absurd measurements, Julius Brands is probably the 661 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: pick at corner. This guy is six foot three, incredible wingspan, 662 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: incredible movement skills for a guy that big. A lot 663 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: like a season ago, we were talking about Terrek Woollin 664 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: and how there's it's pointless trying to come up with 665 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: comps for him because based off that athletic profile, there 666 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: are no comps. Nobody's ever done that before. Brents is 667 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: putting up similar numbers. I mean, he has various athletic 668 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: measurements in the ninety nine one hundred percentile, completely unprecedented 669 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: for a guy that size. So I think at this 670 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: point number sixty well worth the spot. Do you view 671 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: cornerback as a deep position in this draft? Yeah, I 672 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: think it is. It's it's a lot like wide receiver 673 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: to me, which is it's maybe not incredible at the 674 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: very top end, like you hear a lot with this 675 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver class. There's no Jamar Chase in this draft class, 676 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: and I think the top receiver in a lot of 677 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: the last previous drafts would be the top receiver in 678 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: this draft class. I feel the same way with corner 679 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: There's no Sauce Gardner, there's no Derek Stingley in terms 680 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: of quality of prospect, but I think there's a lot 681 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: of strength in depth, and I think that this is 682 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds have a lot of players 683 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: that maybe they can't be superstar number one corners, but 684 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: I think they can be quality starters in your offense 685 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: or in your defense rather whether it's the boundary spot 686 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: opposite you know, a true number one, or the slot. 687 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: I think there's quite a lot of slot defenders in 688 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: this class. Here's the lowdown on cornerback. Julius Brent's. He 689 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: does not have great speed. He ran a four or 690 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: five three forty at the combine, but he still has 691 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 1: an elite R as a relative athletic score because he's 692 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: huge for a corner at sixty three with thirty four 693 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: inch arms, and he's explosive. Brents had a forty one 694 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: and a half inch vertical at the combine. The twenty 695 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: three year old started his college career at Iowa before 696 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: transferring to kay State. He had six interceptions in his 697 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: college career, including four last season. Now let's get to 698 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: Sam Monson's third and final pick. So you have added 699 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: a pass catcher in tight end Dalton Kincaid. You have 700 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: added a cornerback and Julius Brents from Kansas State. Now 701 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: we move on to the bengals third pick, third round 702 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: pick number ninety two. Overall, we see names going off 703 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: the aboard right now, including Blake Freeland, the offensive tackle 704 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: from BYU. I'm sure that's somebody. The Bengals fans are 705 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: intrigued by Spears, the running back from tul And I 706 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: saw him destroy the UC Bearcats this past year. So 707 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: we are now on the clock with pick number ninety two. Yeah, 708 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: So You're right. A lot of players there went that 709 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: I think would be intriguing options for Cincinnati. Blake Freeland 710 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: I think would be a really interesting one. He's the 711 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: guy where you think of as a potential mid round 712 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: tackle that could come in and has higher upside than 713 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: just being a body or a backup player, could potentially 714 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: be a legitimate starter. So that's not great seeing him go. 715 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: Really at this spot, you're kind of playing the board, 716 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: I think, and you're just entirely at the mercy of 717 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: who's available, who you think can be a high end player. 718 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: I think Trevias Hodges Thomlinson is a very interesting cornerback option, 719 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: a guy that would play the slot and be a 720 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: high level player. Nick Herbig, the edge rusher from Wisconsin, 721 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati would be smart to start to future 722 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: proof that defensive line. Isaiah McGuire, the edge rusher from Missouri, 723 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: is another guy I think that can come in and 724 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: very early on have a situational role and set a 725 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: hard edge and those kinds of things. And then I 726 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: think running is a spot where you're probably looking at 727 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: in the mid rounds. A lot of those guys have 728 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: already flown off the board, but as Shan Tucker from 729 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: Syracuse is a real home run type of hitter. I 730 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: think there's definitely options, and then at some point everybody's 731 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: going to have to ask the question of when is 732 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: Keshawn Boute value? Like he his tape when he was 733 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: on not last year, but the year before that is 734 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: incredibly good. He's a wide receiver from LSU. Right, He's 735 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: a really smooth route runner, smooth mover, has the skill set. 736 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: And then last year's tape wasn't great, his workouts were worse, 737 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: and it generally sort of looks like a kind of 738 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: relative lack of want to versus some of these other guys. 739 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: But at some point the upside there is incredibly tantalizing. 740 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: I mean, he was supposed to be the next one 741 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: of those LSU receivers after Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, who 742 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: could step in and you know, be an elite player. 743 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: Maybe this spot of the third round is a little 744 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: bit rich for me, but at some stage I think 745 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: teams are going to be asking themselves that question. I 746 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: think the guy from this list I would go for 747 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: is Isaiah McGuire, the edge rusher from Missouri. Isaiah McGuire 748 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: is six four two hundred and seventy four pounds with 749 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: long arms, and had eight and a half sacks for 750 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: Missouri last season. His RIS score of nine point five 751 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: three is excellent, and he opened eyes at the combine 752 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: by broad jumping more than ten feet. McGuire's young. He 753 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: doesn't turn twenty two until July, and NFL dot com 754 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: describes him as quote a bulldozing power rusher who can 755 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: uproot tackles and collapse pockets with forceful punch and explosive 756 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: leg drive. Now time to find out how PFF graded 757 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: Sam's picks. Best grades we have so far A couple 758 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: of A minuses. Okay, today we beat it the Dalton Kincaid. 759 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: The Dalton Kincaid put me over the top. That was 760 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: an A plus. You have the two Julius brands with 761 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: an A. Isaiah McGuire would just a B. But that 762 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: gives me an overall A. I'm okay with that. I'll 763 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: take it. If you want to email Dane Brugler and 764 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: tell him you beat him on a three round Bengals mock, 765 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: you can. He's coming on our show next week, I 766 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: think so I'll tell him. Then we'll have another three 767 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: round mock draft from an NFL expert next week. That's 768 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: going to do it. For this episode of The Bengals 769 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast, brought to you by Kettering Health, the official 770 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Bengals. Buy Bengals Picks and Ultimate 771 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: Bengals They're free to play with. 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