1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: listen live. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: Happy almost Super Week, Carmie. We are just eight days 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: away to the big game. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah are we eight now? 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys heard, but we're 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: gonna be out there starting Wednesday. Krmie, Tracy Nicky and 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: I will be at the Fox Sports Radio set doing 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: our Super Week shows, which we. 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: Are so excited. 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: They will be on Fox Sports Radio YouTube page, of course, 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: uploaded everywhere that you listen to your podcast. We're so excited. 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: We got so many fun interviews set up. We're gonna 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: kind of spill the tea and give you like the 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: behind the scenes of the craziest week of the year 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: in football. Like it's just gonna be a time. It's 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: going to be a time. 22 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: It always is, it always is. I'm I'm like gearing 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 5: up already. Like I had a friend that actually texted 24 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 5: me day and she said do. 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: You want to go do something tonight? And I was like, no, 26 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: do you under what I am? 27 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 5: I'm mentally like just like staying in my house trying 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 5: to get ready for what we have coming up. 29 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: Because super Bowl Week is. 30 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 5: Wild, wild, It's it's wild, it's busy, and it's one 31 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 5: of the best weeks of the year, regardless of if 32 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 5: your team is in it or not. 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: And it's just like you function off of kind of 34 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: no sleep because I mean, our show's going to be 35 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: early and then you have afternoon stuff, you have evening events, 36 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: and you. 37 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: Got to do it all. 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Hey, that's what the read says. 48 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: I know, I'm away, just like do it personally, I 49 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: don't need, I don't care. 50 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't to hear that. 51 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: It's fine, funny. 52 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 5: We will have some really great interviews coming up for 53 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 5: you next week, so you definitely want to be subscribed 54 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: so you catch those. 55 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm so excited and we've got a great show for 56 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: you today. We're going to break down Super Bowl sixty. 57 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 2: We're gonna give our season awards. We're talking coaching. Only 58 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: two seats left and one of the goats did he 59 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: get snubbed? We also have some good guests today, a 60 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: Rosch Marcasey of the Sporting Tribune who's been covering Sam. 61 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: Darnold since college. 62 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: He was at the game obviously in Seattle, Ram Seahawks Wild. 63 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: And then we're gonna have Tracy and Nicky joining the show. 64 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Who's going to be with us all week next week 65 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: up in San Francisco. We got producer Shay, technical producer 66 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: Chris and Martin Wise at the news desk today the 67 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: CARMI let's get to Super Bowl sixty. It is set 68 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Patriots in Seahawks. The last time these two teams met 69 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl twenty fourteen season, the Malcolm Butler 70 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: interception that sealed the win. 71 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: This should have been Marshall Lntron yea. 72 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Uh huh and uh the Seahawks they are now back 73 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: for the first time since that game. The Patriots back 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: in the big game for the first time since Tom 75 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Brady in twenty eighteen. And there's a lot of firsts 76 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: for these two teams. Obviously Mike raybuls first season as 77 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: head coach, Sam Darnold's first season with the Seahawks, and 78 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: both these quarterbacks for super Bowls. 79 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: It's just like, I mean, this is only this is 80 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: only Drake my second. 81 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: Season yep, so yes, which is yeah, the the parallels 82 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: to and I'm not I'm not going to put this 83 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 5: on the kid, as much as I love him, but 84 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 5: the parallel said, you know who else went to a 85 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: Super Bowl in a second season? 86 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: Brady Brady with them. 87 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: Englenggland Patriots, and then there was like, what a ten 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: year gap? 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 5: No, he won, he won a couple, okay, and then 90 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: then there was a little bit of a gap, and 91 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 5: then they won the other three okay, and then he 92 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 5: won his seventh with Tampa. 93 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 94 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: But I remember there being him talking about like, oh, 95 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: you don't realize how hard it is to get there 96 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: until you don't, and then you got to figure out 97 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: how to get back, and then that's your entire, your 98 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: entire career. 99 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: How do I get back to this moment? 100 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: But then you also have like on the opposite end, 101 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: like Sam Darnald and the Seahawks. Sam Donald's silencing all 102 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: of his doubters this year, like in the most beautiful way. 103 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: He is the winningest quarterback the last two seasons on 104 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: two different teams, mind you, And he just played the 105 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: game of his career in the NFC Championship game and 106 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: that was his biggest knock, like on him and his 107 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: just him as a player in his career. Could he 108 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: win big games that mattered? Because last season with the Vikings, 109 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: he lost in Week eighteen, dropped to the five seed 110 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: and then lost to the Rams of the first round. 111 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 2: And because of that, the Vikings let him go, which, 112 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: as we're learning now, huge mistake. And I think Vikings 113 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: are also realizing a huge mistake. They just fired their GM, 114 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: who could have kept Sam, especially since they didn't know 115 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: what they were going to have in JJ McCarthy after 116 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: coming off with an injury. 117 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: I get that that this is the narrative now, and 118 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 5: I think it's true and I think that that was 119 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: the reaction from the Vikings ownership. But I also don't 120 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: think it's fair because at the time, like you had 121 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 5: just traded up to get Jaj McCarthy, then he loses 122 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 5: his first season because of injury and you essentially have 123 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: to ride with that. Like the Vikings and Quasi for 124 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: that matter, made the best possible decision with the information 125 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 5: they had at the time, and now looking back on it, 126 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: it's easy to say, well, obviously they should have kept 127 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: Sam Donald. At the time, I think a lot of 128 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: people were okay with the way that the say that 129 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 5: the Vikings were handling things. Included myself included being like, okay, 130 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: Sam Darnald, you like, you're going to cost a lot 131 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: more right now. 132 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: We can't afford that on. 133 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 5: Top of the fact that we just spent draft capital 134 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: to go get who we think is going to be 135 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: our quarterback of the future and the plan was there. 136 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: So now that like, and it's not fair that this 137 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: is the way it works. 138 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: But I mean, I think ownership absolutely sees Sam Donald 139 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl and said, well, for sure he 140 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 5: could have gotten us to the super Bowl. And that's 141 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: so easy to say right now, But it wasn't easy 142 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: to say, and it wasn't a really controversial thing last year, 143 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 5: so I was I was kind of surprised at the 144 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: timing of everything with Kuaisia Dopamensa, and I think that, 145 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's myriad reasons there where I think 146 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: you could make the case why maybe he should have 147 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 5: been out, But the timing tells me this was a 148 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: reactionary thing to seeing Sam Darnold get to Super Bowl. 149 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Which is what we've been seeing a lot with ownership 150 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: right now, a lot of actionaryulsive decisions. 151 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: That's been on display this season. 152 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little wild. 153 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: And again, like I can understand both sides, Like if 154 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: you're in a win now, like you keep Sam, if 155 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: you're planning for the future in JJ and you want 156 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: him to step into that leadership role, it's not going 157 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: to help having Sam in the building kind of taking 158 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: over until you're ready. I don't think you'll be able 159 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: to step into that full leadership position, but that's a 160 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: risk you have to take. Did you believe that Sam 161 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: Donald could be where he is right now and could 162 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: be the quarterback that he is right now? And a 163 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: lot of people did not believe that, and there wasn't 164 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: a track record to go off of it. 165 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: So that's what I can say. I can't totally blame them. 166 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: But then you see the Seahawks who took the risk 167 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: and saw that and believed in him, and now he's 168 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowls first year. 169 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: It's really funny too that everybody was so quick to say, well, 170 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 5: Sam Darnald can't win big games. 171 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: Up until his time with the Vikings, he wasn't really 172 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: in big. 173 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: Games because he was playing for the New York Jets, 174 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: and then it was the backup and it went so 175 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: spectacularly wrong, but from so many different levels that you 176 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: can't put on Sam. And so to see that all 177 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: right in his first year with a competent coach and 178 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: a competent staff and a competent team around him, yeah, Okay, 179 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 5: he doesn't it doesn't work out in the biggest moments. 180 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: But to then have that be the narrative of Sam 181 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: Donald can't win big games in this that the other like, 182 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 5: I was a huge believer. Like even though I thought 183 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: that the Vikings made the right decision at the time, 184 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: given the investment they had already made in JJ McCarthy, 185 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: I was absolutely still a believer that Sam Darnold was 186 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: going to do well for the Seattle Seahawks. And there 187 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: was some like there was some other moves that the 188 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: Seahawks were making where there was some kind of you know, 189 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 5: trading away Cup. You're like, all right, you got Sam Darnald, 190 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: but you're not really doing a whole lot to insulate 191 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 5: him with talent and you have Jackson Smith and Jigba 192 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: and and you're gonna rely on a defense, I guess. 193 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: And that's what they did and that's what worked. But 194 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 5: it was never to me, it was never a question 195 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 5: of can Sam still Like I feel like the Vikings 196 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: or maybe it started in San Francisco uncovered and got 197 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: Sam back to who he was. But like, he was 198 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 5: a great player in college. 199 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: He was a great player at Parracy. 200 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: So too, and that's the reason that he went as 201 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: high as he did in the UNIBA. 202 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: Well, so, yeah, let's take a moment to reflect back 203 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: on his quarterback first round draft class. Okay, because number 204 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: one to the Browns, Baker Mayfield, Number three to the Jets, 205 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: Sam Tarnold, number seven to the Bills, Josh a, number 206 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: ten to the Cards. 207 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: Josh Rosen that's obviously didn't work out great. 208 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: Number thirty two to the Ravens Lamar Jackson, so from 209 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: his draft class, he will be the first one to 210 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: start in a Super Bowl. 211 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, which I think the surprising part of that is 212 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: because Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are both part of 213 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: that class. 214 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: Well, they're both MVPs. 215 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: They're both MVPs. 216 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they haven't gotten to But again, this is 217 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: a team game, hm, And I also think that it 218 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: speaks to you, especially when you're talking about Sam Darnold 219 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 5: and Baker Mayfield, where you cannot just give up on 220 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 5: these guys that inevitably go really tough situations. The benefit 221 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 5: for someone like Lamar Jackson going to the Ravens, by 222 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: the way, at thirty two, is because they were they 223 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 5: weren't a great team, they were a great team. 224 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: You want to be. 225 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: Low in the drift, like I understand, you want that 226 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: bonus and those like top ten picks, but that means 227 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: you're going to a bad team that is not in 228 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: great shape. 229 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 4: If you drop in the draft, you are going to 230 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: a great situation. 231 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: We cannot keep judging quarterbacks solely on this like we 232 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: have to. We have to understand that the environment that 233 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 5: these guys go into has as much to do with 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: their talent, with like, with their success as their talent does. 235 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: No, Like, there is no one that could have gone. 236 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 5: To the Browns in the way in that And honestly, 237 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: Baker had some success with the Browns. 238 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: He took them to the playoffs at. 239 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: The first time in what like thirty It was something 240 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: like that, like crazy, crazy. 241 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: And I mean they didn't win the game, but like, 242 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 5: but then to have that go spectacularly to pieces just 243 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: shows the dysfunction of that organization. Sam Darnold, same thing. 244 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: You go to the Jets. It's not a good situation. 245 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 5: It's still not a good situation. 246 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: And so to. 247 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 5: Expect these quarterbacks to thrive in these situations just doesn't 248 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 5: make a whole lot of sense. You need to understand 249 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: that it has so much to do with the environment 250 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: and the team around them, because again, it is the 251 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 5: team game. So that's like, I think we're going to 252 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: look back on that class and I hope we learn 253 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: lessons from it. 254 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: Of you cannot You cannot. 255 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: Base your entire evaluation of a guy based on his 256 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: first or even second year in the league, or even 257 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,359 Speaker 5: his first situation sometimes, especially if they are as dysfunctional 258 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 5: as teams like the Browns and the Jets. 259 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Right. 260 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: I mean it's wild when you think about it, right, 261 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: because Sam Donald went number three to the Jets and 262 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: he didn't really have success until he was technically a 263 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: quote backup backup in San Francisco, and then he was 264 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: brought in as a backup to the Vikings for JJ 265 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: McCarthy who got injured, and then he got the starting role, 266 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: had an incredible season and that landed him his starting 267 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: quarterback job with the Seahawks, and he is now in 268 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. So let it be a lesson to everybody, 269 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: like block out the noise, don't listen to the doubters 270 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: or the haters. You just have to believe in yourself 271 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: so much because no one else will, and when you do, 272 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: you can reach your dreams. 273 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 4: Sam Donald is now in the super Bowl. 274 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: That's the hard part. 275 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: Also, I think of this Viking situation where their plan 276 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: for JJ was perfect. Their plan understood this because Kevin 277 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 5: O'Connell has been very vocal about saying we teams fail 278 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: quarterbacks more than quarterbacks fail teams, and so to that degree, 279 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 5: that's why Sam Donald was there. Sam Donald was always 280 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: going to start the season in that first year. For 281 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy's first year, that was always going to happen 282 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: because they wanted to ease JJ McCarthy into the starting role. 283 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 5: They wanted to ease him. They were playing the long 284 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: game with JJ McCarthy, which is exactly what you want 285 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: to encourage teams to do. And it's not it's sometimes 286 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: it's not the most feasible because of caps restrictions in 287 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: this that the other. But I think the plan in 288 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 5: Minnesota was so good to bring in a high end. 289 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: High level backup. 290 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: And obviously Kevin O'Connell's talking to Kyle Shanahan and everybody 291 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: in San Francisco and there they're the ones that are saying, hey, 292 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 5: he can handle this this set the other he's a 293 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 5: high end backup. You bring Sam Donald in, you say, 294 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: all right, he's going to start this season for us, 295 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 5: and he's going we're going to ease JJ McCarthy into it. 296 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 5: And so like Sam Donald's not he was he was 297 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 5: always going to be a bridge. But that's what a 298 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: bridge is, right, and that is such a good way 299 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 5: to handle quarterbacks and the fact that it's not working 300 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 5: on Minnesota. I really hope doesn't deter other teams from 301 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 5: doing stuff like that, because we have so much evidence 302 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: of quarterbacks who are allowed to sit, who are not 303 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 5: thrust into bad situations, you know, out of desperation and 304 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: this that the other that end up being incredible quarterbacks 305 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 5: and have long careers. I mean, you look at Patrick 306 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 5: Mahomes who got to sit for a majority of his 307 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: first year and came in, you know, with injury, and 308 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 5: then that year of him getting to learn, or Jordan 309 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 5: Love getting to learn for three years on the roster 310 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: under Aaron Rodgers. If you can afford to be patient 311 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: with these guys, who should. But it's it's really cool 312 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: to see that it paid off for Sam Darnold in 313 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 5: a way that also gets him success, even if it's 314 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 5: not with the team that kind of launched that Ifeah, 315 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: that makes sense. 316 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: It does. 317 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 6: Well. 318 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Patriots, who have the complete 319 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: opposite situation with their quarterbacks. 320 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: They say, actually, I was scared. I was so scared. 321 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm in halfway through last sear insane. 322 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: He got turned like, let's just okay, let's start from 323 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: the top, right. So this used to be the norm 324 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: for the Patriots. They went to nine Super Bowls during 325 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: the Brady Belichick dynasty, and their head coach, Mike Rabel, 326 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: part of that team, won three rings as a player 327 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: in his first season as their head coach, came in, 328 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: immediately turned this team around, and they turned Drake May 329 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: into an MVP candidate. 330 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: I mean a big reason. 331 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: I think they brought back Josh McDaniels at their oc. 332 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: He was there for the Brady time. He was on 333 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: the staff for all six of their Super Bowl wins. 334 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: He knows what it takes to be. 335 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: The best of the best. 336 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: But I think just that winning mentality, that connection, like 337 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: Mike Rabel is like the Patriots way. This was the 338 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 2: perfect situation. 339 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: Fun about it's fun. Yeah, it's not Bill Belichick at 340 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: the podium. I can tell you no one let's and 341 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: I adore I adore Rabel for taking the Patriot away 342 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 5: and making it fun. 343 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, like they like. 344 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 5: Practices are still tough and and they're grueling, and he's 345 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: very much about the details and the competitive drive and 346 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 5: this that the other. 347 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: But if you've ever watched. 348 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: Mike Mike Rabil on a practice field, we did joint 349 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: practice with him when I was with the Bucks a 350 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: couple of times, and if you've ever watched him on 351 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: the practice field, he is he's jawn it guys, he's 352 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: like hitting. 353 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: Him over the helmet. 354 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: He's like, I mean you can see it when his 355 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: players go to head butt him their helmets on, Like, 356 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: this is, this is who he is, and it's so much. 357 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: More fun this way. This is. This is the Patriots 358 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: team that I don't mind rooting for because I'm. 359 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: Like, this is fun interesting, you know. 360 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: I also like, I mean, I like, I've liked Rabel 361 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: for a very long time as a coach. I love 362 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 5: I've talked about it so many times. I loved Drake. 363 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: I know this is I was so. 364 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: Scared for him last year, coming in halfway through with 365 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 5: a terrible offensive line. 366 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's where you get hurt. We've seen quarterbacks. 367 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm hurt. Sure that they were going to get him killed. 368 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: And I'm like, i mean. 369 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Not just he's gonna get injured. Carmei's like, no, that 370 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: was it was hyperbolic. That's what I was concerned about. 371 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: It was hyperbolic. But like that's how bad was That's. 372 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: How I get it. 373 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: That's fair. 374 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: It's you're going to ruin this maybe not kill him, 375 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: but you're gonna kill his career because he's gonna he's 376 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 5: gonna start seeing it's gonna be Sam Darnold at the 377 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: Jets all over again. When you're seeing ghosts and like 378 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: you can't. Protection doesn't help hold up me a little 379 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: faith though, I should have remembered how how athletic Drake 380 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 5: May is and how he doesn't get the credit for 381 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: being as athletic as he is. And he navigated that 382 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 5: first season coming in halfway through, just so incredibly well, 383 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: and like he you can see it in his second season, 384 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 5: he doesn't. He doesn't seem like it's his second season. 385 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: He's so poised, he's so in command, he's so in control, 386 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: and he just it's just I cannot say it about. 387 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: Him, Like what a glow up for the Patriots team 388 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: in one year under Mike Rabel. 389 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: They were so starved of success for long. 390 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: You know what, I guess strong franchise and ownership know 391 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: how to rebuild, and it took a bit, but they did. 392 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break here when we come back. 393 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: Speaking of rebuilding, was this one of the biggest snubs 394 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: in Hall of Fame history? 395 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: That's snacks on Fox Sports Radio. 396 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 397 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: the nation. 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And honestly, 434 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: to the media members who did not vote him in, 435 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: show your face, because that is an absolute joke. That's 436 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: holding a grudge against someone who was one of the 437 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 2: best to ever do it. Real quick, let me just 438 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: give you a few of his career accomplishments. Six Super 439 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: Bowl wins as a head coach, the most of any 440 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: coach of all time. Eight super bowls total, which includes 441 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: two as a DC, nine super Bowl appearances as head coach, 442 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: the most of any coach of all time. Thirty one 443 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: playoff wins as a head coach, the most in NFL history. 444 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: Seventeen division titles the most by any coach in NFL history. 445 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: Nine conference championships the most by any head coach in 446 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl era. Thirteen appearances in the Conference championship 447 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: the most by a head coach in the Super Bowl era. 448 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: Oh, and three time Coach of the Year. Excuse me what? 449 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: And if your argument is that, oh, it's because a 450 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: spy gay and a flight gate guys, he was winning 451 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: super Bowls after that and they lost first round picks, 452 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: they paid their fines, and if that's going to be 453 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: the hill that you die on, then you got to 454 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: hold this to Tom Brady as well, because he was 455 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: on those teams he got suspended for the flake Gate. 456 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: Like this is just absolutely mind blowing to me. 457 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: Carme. 458 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: It's interesting because you know, I look at awards like 459 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: you know, MVP or something like that where you're like, 460 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: it's this year is a great example, where it's Drake 461 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: may or Matthew Stafford essentially, or like the two guys 462 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 5: that I think it's going to come down to, and 463 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: you're like, well, you know, if you look at the numbers, 464 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 5: they're really similar, and like you, you're tempted to take 465 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: into account Matthew Stafford's larger body of work, right, and 466 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: subsequently you might be you're willing to kind of I 467 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 5: don't know, like discount some of the stuff with Drake 468 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 5: maybe because of his lack of body of work. But 469 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: that all it's a season award. 470 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: Fine. The Hall of Fame. 471 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 5: Is about every piece of context about a person's career 472 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: that you could possibly know and see. And there are 473 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: very tangible accolades and awards. Obviously you just listed to them, 474 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: alex in Bill Belichick's tenure of. 475 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: All time and no matter what has. 476 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: Happened in you know, if you talk about spygate, to 477 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 5: talk about Flaygate, or you talk about his very failed 478 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: so far experiment at the University of North. 479 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 8: Carolina, so completely differently, it's that that is not something 480 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 8: that you take into account because that is not his 481 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 8: NFL tenure, and so to not I keep seeing the sentiment. 482 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: Just go over you know, around social media, where. 483 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: I'm just like, if not Bill, then who who is 484 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: a first ballot Hall of Famer? If Bill Belichick isn't 485 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 5: a first ballot Hall of Famer, because again, if you're 486 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 5: going to say that all of this, all of these, 487 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 5: you know you evaluate the case based on, you know, 488 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 5: this criteria Bill, Like. 489 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: It just blows it all out of the water, I think. 490 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 5: And a friend of mine, Courtney Cronin, who writes for ESPN, 491 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 5: she pointed this out a couple of days ago, where 492 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 5: she's like, I think it's time that we now get 493 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 5: some transparency when it comes to who is voting, when 494 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 5: they're voting, why they're voting, and what the criteria is 495 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 5: being that's being used to determine that vote. 496 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: It's this was a grudge move. 497 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: I mean I has like because I also think that 498 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: I also think there should be I think it's Courtney 499 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: Brothers up to the should be term limits as to 500 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: how long it can be a Hall of Fame voter. 501 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: I like, like you can just. 502 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 5: Because then that gives you that if it is a 503 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: grudge thing, h I mean, Bill's been in the league, 504 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: was in the league for so long that like, guys 505 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 5: that have had nothing to do with football for twenty 506 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: years are voting on this candidacy and they're holding grudges 507 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: from them, and you're just like. 508 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 3: Is that really should we be should we be allowing that? 509 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 510 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: So I think that there there needs to be an 511 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 5: overhaul to the entire process. And I and I'm wondering 512 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 5: the outcry from this was not small. So when especially 513 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: when like the court of public opinion is so one 514 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: sided in this, Like I don't think any I've not 515 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 5: seen one person argue like I think Mike Sando of 516 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: the Athletic actually like detailed how this could have possibly happened, 517 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 5: and it was like, you know, the the oh, well, 518 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: he's going to get in, so why is it whatever? 519 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: What? 520 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like that was like that was apparently one of 521 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 5: the reasons why like this this even happened was people 522 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 5: were like, well, he's going to get in, so we 523 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: don't have to vote for him this year. Let's vote 524 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: for other people that have been waiting. 525 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: That is to get insane. 526 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: But there is there's a backlog at multiple positions, and 527 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: like there's a whole backlog of guys that haven't gotten 528 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: into the Hall of Fame yet that absolutely deserve to. 529 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 5: But being a first ballot Hall of Famer means something, 530 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: and there is no better example of that. When you 531 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: talk about a track record Accolade's career than Bill Belichick. 532 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: So I think the public outcry from all of this 533 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 5: will maybe get some changes made to the Hall of 534 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 5: Fame Boom because. 535 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 3: It needs it. 536 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 5: I hate it's that outdated way of doing things. 537 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: Mind blowing, like that is a joke, show your face. 538 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: There are there are a ton of guys that are 539 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 5: waiting to get in, and I get that. But to 540 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 5: deny a guy being a first ballot Hall of Famer 541 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: because you want to, you know, like get down on 542 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: the like you want to get to other guys that 543 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 5: have been waiting, No. 544 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 4: No, and he is like literally one of the greatest 545 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: of all time. 546 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: He's the most qualified, most coach to. 547 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: Be a first ballot Hall of famersand percent it's insane. Okay, 548 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: let's check you with Martin Wise and see what's trending. 549 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 9: Paul George has been suspended without paying for twenty five 550 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 9: games for violating the NBA's anti drug policy. George will 551 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 9: a leash his statement saying he took an improper medication 552 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 9: while seeking treatment for his mental health. 553 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 6: Former Broncos defensive. 554 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 9: Pass game coordinator Jim Leonard has been tired as the 555 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 9: Bill's new defensive coordinator. New York Giants co owner Steve 556 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 9: Tisch has been named in the latest Epstein files dropped. 557 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 9: His name appears four hundred and forty times among the 558 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 9: recent release documents. Released a statement yesterday saying that quote, 559 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 9: we had a brief association where we exchanged emails about 560 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 9: adult women. In addition, we discussed movies, philanthropy, and investments. 561 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 9: I did not take him up on any of his invitations, 562 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 9: never went to his island, and as we all know now, 563 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 9: he was a terrible person and someone I deeply regret 564 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 9: associating with. In the NBA, the Hornets beat the Spurs 565 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 9: one eleven to one oh six. Brandon Miller had twenty 566 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 9: six points. Men's college basketball, Arizona remains undefeated, beating Arizona 567 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 9: State in eighty seven to seventy four. 568 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 6: UCF upset Texas. 569 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 9: Tech eighty eight to eighty and wins for Louisville, Duke 570 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 9: and Houston in the top twenty five. 571 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: Ladies. 572 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you, Martin. You're listening to Fox 573 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: Football Saturday. Alex Urry here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you 574 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: for spending your Saturday afternoon with Carme and me. It 575 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: is time for our first guest. He was just at 576 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game. Has been covering Sam Donald since's 577 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: USC days. Please welcome the founder and CEO of The 578 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Sporting Tribune, A rash Marcazi. 579 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining the show. 580 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 10: Thanks for having me. 581 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: Now let's talk about that game in Seattle last Sunday 582 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: lived up to the hype and this Seahawks group that's 583 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: really been one of the more complete teams this season 584 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: was on full display in that NFC Championship when how 585 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: impressed were you and have been with the Seahawks team 586 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: all year? 587 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 10: Really a lot, you know, I mean I was at 588 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 10: that previous Seahawks and Rams game where you really get 589 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 10: to see unfull display off in the season. Yeah, special teams, 590 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 10: But really what impress me in the Conference championship game 591 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 10: was that Sam Donald won that game. 592 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 11: You know. 593 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 10: You know, I think a lot of the success that 594 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 10: the Seahawks have had, he's I don't want to think 595 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 10: he's been along for the ride, but I mean he 596 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 10: he's been a good game manager. I think he was 597 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 10: more than that in the Conference championship game, which has 598 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 10: to make you feel good. So yeah, I mean just 599 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 10: I mean they've been the most complete team someone who 600 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 10: covers the Rams. I was hoping that they would have 601 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 10: a better showing, but they've really struggled. I think being 602 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 10: a complete team sous to the Rams. 603 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 5: The like Mike McDonald what he's been able to do 604 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: in Seattle over the last two years. And it's a 605 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: recipe that we've seen before, which is the quarterback who's 606 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 5: a good quarterback benefited with a dominating. 607 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: All world defense. 608 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: And I would love to get your perspective just kind 609 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 5: of on how much a defense like that has meant 610 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: to Sam Donald's continued improvement, especially this year in Seattle. 611 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 10: It's been huge because I think he knows he doesn't 612 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 10: have to win the game. Again, if the game's there 613 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 10: for him to win. Sam Donald, like you said, I mean, 614 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 10: I've covered him since high school and college. In my mind, 615 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 10: he has that capability. But with a defense like this, 616 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 10: any special teams like this, he knows he doesn't have 617 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 10: to do it all on his own. So when you 618 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 10: have a defense like the Seahawks, it's like hey, like 619 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 10: like like, well, let me just stay within the you 620 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 10: know what I know I can do. And by the way, 621 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 10: this is like the second year he's done that with 622 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 10: a team where won thirteen fourteen games. Uh, that's that's 623 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 10: really a testament to Sam, you know, not putting his 624 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 10: team in a tough spot, not throwing a pick six, 625 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 10: not getting sacked, and having enough fumble. He knows how 626 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 10: to win. 627 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: Now, as you just said, you've been covering Sam Donald. 628 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: I didn't realize since high school and then at USC. 629 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: Now he is the first USC quarterback to start in 630 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. How have you seen him grow over 631 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: the years, not just as a player, but as a person. 632 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 10: The person is really the most impressive during his pro 633 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 10: football run. You know, I caught up with him in 634 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 10: the last few bowl he was in as a backup 635 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 10: quarterback with San Francis. So he said, looks and I've 636 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 10: learned a lot about myself. You know, I've learned to 637 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 10: be a good backup. I've learned to be a good teammate. 638 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 10: I mean, you're talking about a quarterback that ten years ago, 639 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 10: quarterback UFC against Penn State in the Rose Bowl. You know, 640 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 10: was viewed as as you know, one of the top 641 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 10: quarterback prospects coming out of the draft, and so you know, 642 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 10: for a quarterback like that to not get down on 643 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 10: himself and no, you know, from the time with the 644 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 10: Jets to going to Carolina and then being a backup, like, 645 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 10: you know, I'm going to get my chance at some point, 646 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 10: and even when he got that chance with the Vikings, 647 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 10: where like the Vikers really kind of embraced them, and 648 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 10: you look at him at the end of the season 649 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 10: where they you know, they they really gave him a 650 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 10: lot of credit. Tough loss of the Rams in the playoffs, 651 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 10: and then he's looking for a job and then Seattle 652 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 10: once again given him a chance to be that quarterback 653 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 10: in the Seahawks have done the same thing again. He 654 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 10: is such a great locker room guy. You talk to 655 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 10: his teammates, they love him as their quarterbacks. 656 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 5: What was that kind of I mean, you have all 657 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 5: the success that you see if you're Sam Darnold and 658 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: you're on top of the world and you get drafted 659 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: in the top three, you go to the New York Jetsikes, 660 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 5: and it's just I feel like it's such a reality check. 661 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 5: What do you remember from that time of covering Sam, 662 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: specifically of going from successful college career to the depths 663 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: of the NFL and and like bouncing back from that, 664 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: because that's not easy. 665 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know when something like that happens. I mean 666 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 10: you do wonder like is it the system, is it 667 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 10: the team, or is it the quarterback? Because you you, 668 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 10: Sam just looked like such a can't miss pro prospect 669 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 10: that I was really surprised at his difficulties. He talked 670 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 10: about seeing ghosts when he was going up against like 671 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 10: the Patriots, the old Patriots, seems when he was with 672 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 10: the Jets. So you know when that happens, and then 673 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 10: he goes to Carolina and you're like, you know, like 674 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 10: that is this going to be Sam's career? Which, by 675 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 10: the way, I mean the reason that he is the 676 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 10: first USC quarterback to start in the Troper Bowl. USC 677 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 10: has had an amazing track record of quarterbacks being drafted, 678 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 10: but none of them have really reached the heights, you know, 679 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 10: the Most Valuable Player or the Super Bowl quarterback. So yeah, 680 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 10: when you go through that struggles, I'm thinking him maybe 681 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 10: just he's just a good quarterback. Maybe he's you know, 682 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 10: not a great quarterback. Maybe he's a backup. And then 683 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 10: that's to be honest, Carmen, that's what I thought a 684 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 10: couple of years. You know, when he's in San Francisco, 685 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 10: you know what this isn't what I thought he'd be, 686 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 10: But he's in the super Bowl. He's a good backup. 687 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 10: He made like him. But seeing them these last couple 688 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 10: of years have been so happy for him. To have 689 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 10: him get his shine, have him get his moment, He's 690 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 10: been really cool to see. 691 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: Now looking ahead to the Super Bowl, the Seahawks defense 692 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: has been dominant all season, giving them the nickname the 693 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: dark Side. So what is Drake May gonna have to 694 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: do to be able to score some points on this group? 695 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 10: It's gonna be very difficult to get a lot of 696 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 10: people have kind of touched on it as they kind 697 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 10: of break down the Patriots season when you just look at, 698 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 10: you know, not having to go up against a breaking 699 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 10: difficult schedule, having like an easy pathway. All that said, 700 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 10: I mean, this is, without a doubt, not only are 701 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 10: the best defense in my view, in the league, but 702 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 10: certainly the best defense that Drake May has seen. So 703 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 10: I mean, he's, you know, he is the most viable 704 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 10: player candidate. He'll he'll be right behind at the stafford, 705 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 10: I believe in the final voting. But yeah, he's not 706 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 10: played a defense like this, So I'm gonna be really 707 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 10: curious to see how he played that thing said he 708 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 10: can't not drake me again. I know a lot of 709 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 10: people want to find a point to their schedule, points 710 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 10: as their pathway. He's gone here because he is a 711 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 10: superstar in this league. And again for him to get 712 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 10: to this point in the second year, you know against 713 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 10: the PA, the Patriots are back here less sooner than 714 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 10: a lot of people thought. So I don't have Breake 715 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 10: to Maye looking particularly well in this rule. I do 716 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 10: have the Seahawks winning, but that's no knock on Drake 717 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 10: me because they'll get a lot of quarterbacks to not 718 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 10: look good against the Seahawks this season. 719 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: Well, and for all of the stuff that we've talked 720 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 5: about with the Seahawks defense, which has been dominant, which 721 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 5: has argued been the best in the league outside of 722 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 5: maybe Denver, I think those two buy for the top 723 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 5: two defenses in the league this year. Patriots are they're 724 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 5: They're coming, and Big Mike Rabel defensive guy has really 725 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: I feel like this defense as the season has gone on, 726 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: has gotten so much better. There's been They've been brought 727 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 5: so much more pressure, they looked so much more complete, 728 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 5: and then you get to the playoffs and this is a. 729 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 5: This is a unit that's playing very, very well. So 730 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 5: what is Sam Darnold going to have to do against 731 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 5: this Patriots defense that is going to come after him? 732 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 5: And I don't know, is he going to see ghosts 733 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 5: again against these guys. 734 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 12: No. 735 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 10: It's a great point because listen, I think what what 736 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 10: you know Sam is very good at is not having 737 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 10: a CJ. Stroud game where he's not gonna turn the 738 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 10: ball over, you know, four or five times. But to 739 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 10: your point, like, that's what the Patriots can do. So 740 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 10: like when I look at this game and like, how 741 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 10: can the Patriots win, it's the Patriots defense kind of 742 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 10: doing what they've done this season, doing what they've done 743 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 10: in the postseason, and putting Drake and the offense in 744 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 10: a position where they don't have to start up the 745 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 10: twenty yard line. You know, they get a turnover, they 746 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 10: get the ball back, maybe did they score. So I mean, 747 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 10: if the Patriots are to win this game, I believe 748 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 10: it's because the Patriots defense found a way to get 749 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 10: to Sam Donald. Maybe they cause the fumble, maybe they 750 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 10: got a pick six, maybe something happened in that situation. 751 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 10: Because you know what, you're one hundred percent right. The 752 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 10: Patriots defense to get a lot of stock is going 753 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 10: to be about the Seahawks defense. The reason that the 754 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 10: New England Patriots are back in this game. No disrespect 755 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 10: to Drake Nate is the way this defense is playing 756 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 10: right now. 757 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 4: We're so excited for this, Roshia. Are we going to 758 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 4: see you in San Francisco next week? 759 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm so excited that you guys are going to 760 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 10: be there. Yees often hit the down, have to hit 761 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 10: the parties. I'm very excited to hang out with the crew. 762 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: I love that so much. Make sure you stop by. 763 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 2: Our set will be at Radio Row Wednesday through Friday 764 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: and then drinks for sure. 765 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 4: We can't wait. 766 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 6: Awesome, can't wait. 767 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 10: I will see you guys soon. 768 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: All right, that's good, Okay, when we come back. You guys, 769 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: A dudes and the don'ts in sports. You're listening to 770 00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 771 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 772 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 773 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 774 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: listen live. 775 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here 776 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from Los Angeles. 777 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with Carmi and 778 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: me krme. How's it going. What's it like in Chicago's 779 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: it like warm down a little? 780 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: It's like I think it was, it's twenty something right now, 781 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 3: which is good. 782 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: It's eighty. It's literally eighty where I am right now. 783 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 784 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 5: My hot take is, or maybe it's my cold take, 785 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 5: is that I love this like it's it's January thirty four. 786 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: It should be twenty one degree. 787 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 4: It's your home, it's your hometown, it's my home. 788 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: It makes mess too. 789 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: You know, it's eighty two degrees in Sherman Oaks right now. 790 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: No, I would see, I would hate, that would make 791 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: me mad, so I would make I'm obviously at the beach. 792 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: It's seventy at the beach, which is like, that's my vibe. 793 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, where is that eighty? 794 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 4: Where the valley is eighty two degrees. 795 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 5: I lived in like the hottest places in this country. 796 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 5: I lived in Tampa, Florida. 797 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: I lived in. 798 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 5: Phoenix, Arizona. Lived I mean, I lived by the beach 799 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 5: in La So I didn't leave in the hot part 800 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 5: of LA. But I would literally get mad when it 801 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 5: was winter and it's eighty degrees. 802 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, this is not right. Nope, I 803 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: want to be My favorite thing in the world is 804 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: to be cozy. You can't be cozy, so. 805 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 4: I just have ac blasting in the house. 806 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: Hear round. 807 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: All right, guys, it is time for the dues and 808 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: the don'ts and sports. 809 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: Highlighting the d I love that putting a spotlight on 810 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: the don't. 811 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 4: The subject brings me no joy. 812 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: That's insane. 813 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the dots in sports. 814 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna start with the DW do always 815 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: be yourself. 816 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel was officially announced as the Chargers offensive coordinator 817 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: this week, and his presser and media day he. 818 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 4: Did the social team was just like Chef's kiss Gold. 819 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 2: They announced him by him sitting at a table and 820 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 2: it's like pulling out fan questions out of jar and 821 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: is like one of the first thing he says to 822 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: the camera officially as the Chargers offensive coordinator is this 823 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: isn't going to be a vape question, is it? 824 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 4: I know how you guys roll, And. 825 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 2: Then he just says up a Mike McDaniel offensive coordinator 826 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: of the Chargers, and then it just like goes to 827 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: like the side smart emoji, which was hilarious. He also 828 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: shared his morning routine which he said, I wake up, 829 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: I open my eyes, and then I go. He said, 830 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: I also have to do a lot, so I specifically 831 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: get up early at the three or four am to 832 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: do everything I need to do that's not human interaction, 833 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: which is mainly cerebral work. So I'm not a weirdo 834 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: when I enter the building and I can engage in 835 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: add value. 836 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 5: You'd be surprised how many coaches that's the reason they 837 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: get in so early. 838 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: It's because they're just like, I don't want to be bothered. Yeah, 839 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: I want to. 840 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 5: Get some work done before people are coming in and 841 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 5: out of my office all the time, all day. 842 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 3: Why I've heard that. I've heard that from multiple coaches. 843 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 5: Why the pairing more than the pairing of Mike McDaniel 844 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 5: and Justin Herbert. I love the pairing of the Chargers 845 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 5: social team and Mike mcdanill. 846 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 4: It's insane. 847 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: I mean, Chargers pressers are going to be gold next year. Also, 848 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: like hard Knocks, get on this, like, I mean, do 849 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: the Chargers behind the scenes. 850 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 5: Look more than the Pressers? The Charger social team is 851 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 5: known league wide. Oh yeah, off the wall, so really 852 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 5: excited for them. 853 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: To do stuff. 854 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be great. 855 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 5: This is kind of it's a subject that is brought 856 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 5: up in the update, so it's not the most fun 857 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 5: subject to talk about. 858 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: But I'm going to do another angle on this. 859 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 5: So Giants owner Adam Tish, named in the Epstein files, 860 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: do something about this NFL before Goodell's presser next week. 861 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 5: Because Roger Goodell holds a State of the Union at 862 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 5: address about the league where anything and everything is fair 863 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: game to ask him, and he does it at super 864 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 5: Bowl week every year. 865 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: That is going to happen next week. You can save yourself. 866 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 5: A lot, NFL if you just do the right thing, 867 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 5: and you do it now, and you do it before 868 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 5: that press conference. So do something about this. Get him 869 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 5: out of the league in some way, shape or form. Yeah, 870 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 5: wrote the book at him. There's no place for any 871 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 5: involvement in that kind of stuff in the NFL. 872 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: They're just the same. 873 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that kind of goes with my next Do 874 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: do the right thing and support your city. Shout out 875 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Timberwolves for handling the situation in their 876 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: city the best they can. Rescheduling games to make sure 877 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 2: it's safer fans, and then they've all been wearing stand 878 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: with Minnesota during warmups. My heart goes out to every 879 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 2: single person in Minnesota right now, but just unfathomable situation 880 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: that they have to continue to play is foreign while 881 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: all of this is going on. 882 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 5: I especially appreciate that it's not only Minnesota Timberwolves players 883 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 5: that are coming out and saying this stuff. I mean, 884 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 5: you heard Victor women Yama yep come out and say 885 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 5: He's like, I know that I'm a foreigner, yep, but 886 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 5: this isn't okay. You don't have to be from here 887 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 5: or not from here to realize that what's happening is 888 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 5: not okay. In the overreach that is happening is my 889 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 5: parents are protesting today, which was pretty sick. 890 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 3: I know, like they were. They live in. 891 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: Florida too, so yeah, like it matters there too. 892 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: But I really, I really appreciated. 893 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 5: Hearing from multiple athletes and people using their platform to 894 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 5: talk about this because we cannot let it just get swept. 895 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 3: Under the rug a little bit lighter. Yes, speaking of. 896 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 5: Florida, Tampa Lightning are hosting another Stadium Series game tomorrow 897 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 5: at Raymond James STADIU, which is where the Buccaneers play, 898 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 5: And it is Gasprilla in Tampa right now, which is 899 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 5: the most fun weekend in Tampa. It's pirate. It's it's pirate, 900 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 5: Marty Grass. The entire field has been laid out like 901 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 5: a treasure map at Raymond James Stadium. And for so 902 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 5: so many leagues, networks are trying to get away with 903 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 5: the bare minimum these days to maximize profit. Mone and 904 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 5: the lightning just went full send into being Tampa. 905 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 3: And I love it. 906 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 4: I love that so much. Well, we come back. We 907 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 4: got our season awards. 908 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 909 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 910 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 911 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 912 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: listen live. 913 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to our two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex 914 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: Curry here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your 915 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with Carmeie and me. Happy almost super week. 916 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: Just eight days till the big game and if you 917 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: haven't heard, we are gonna be there Starting Wednesday. Carmie, Tracy, 918 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: Nikki and Me will be at the Fox Sports Radio 919 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: set doing Super Week show. They will be on the 920 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio YouTube page and then you can listen 921 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: to them wherever you listen to your podcasts. We're so excited. 922 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: It's gonna be so much fun. It is a wild, 923 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: wild week. We're having great guests. We're gonna spill the 924 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: tea and give you kind of the behind the scenes 925 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 2: look into it. 926 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 4: I'm so excited, Carme, And. 927 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 5: With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us whatever you 928 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 5: happen to be catch us in all of our Fox 929 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 5: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and the 930 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 5: new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio 931 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 5: in the app to stream us live all day, every day, 932 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 5: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one 933 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 5: of your presets in the iHeart app so it will 934 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 5: always pop up at the top of your screen. 935 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: Now, last hour, we talked about the Super Bowl matchup. 936 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to be talking about it for 937 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: the next eight days because that's just what it is. 938 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: We are in that two week Super Bowl window where 939 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,959 Speaker 2: this is it. So if you missed that last hour, 940 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: you can listen to that where you get your podcasts. 941 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: We also talked about the Bill Belichick snubbed by the 942 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:39,959 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 943 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 4: Insane. So we're going to kick off this hour. 944 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 2: With some honors, and like the NFL Honor finalists, they're 945 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: going to be announced everybody at the honors Thursday. 946 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 4: Are you going? 947 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: No, I'm not going. Okay, but it'll be fun regardless. 948 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 5: I'm I'm selfishly excited because there is a new award 949 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 5: this year. 950 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 3: I know you, we are finally acknowledging the big sex 951 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 3: is up. 952 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 5: The offensive line, the protector of you know, it's it's 953 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 5: overall offensive line. Yea, given that you know, tackles and 954 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 5: guards and centers are all wildly different. Yeah, different reasons, 955 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 5: but hey, I will take what I can get right now. 956 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 5: And the fact that we're getting some acknowledgment as to 957 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 5: these guys and how much they matter to teams overall success, 958 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. 959 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we see it firsthand. We see it firsthand 960 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: when their protection is gone. So yeah, deserved. So let's start. 961 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 2: Let's start at the top here. Okay, We're going to 962 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: go through and then Carmee and I are going to 963 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: give our picks that we think should win this award. Okay, Okay, MVP, 964 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 2: I am going to go My MVP is Matthew Stafford. 965 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: Not only did this man start the preseason banged up, 966 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: there was a moment where we were questioning how much 967 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: he had left in the tank when the Rams were 968 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 2: reconstructing his contract, and then he ended his season with 969 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 2: some of the best stats in the league at the 970 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: ripe age of thirty seven. He'll be thirty eight next week, 971 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: and this was one of his best seasons of his career. 972 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: He was number one in passing yards, passing touchdowns. He 973 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: had the number one scoring offense. He was number two 974 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 2: and passer rating, just behind Drake May, who I think 975 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: they're the one two favorite, and. 976 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: He willed his team to a lot of those wins. 977 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: Yes, he had a couple off games towards the end 978 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: of the season, but he is He is my MVP 979 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 2: this season. 980 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 3: Drake May. I've talked about this quite a bit, Letska. 981 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 5: When I was diving into everything and kind of looking 982 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 5: and again, I'm not against Matthew Stafford winning this award, 983 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 5: but when I was looking at their numbers, a lot 984 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 5: of them are very similar, right, and then so I 985 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 5: needed to go one level below that, and essentially what 986 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 5: I found was Drake May's offensive line is just not 987 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 5: as good as Matthew Stafford's offensive line. Therefore, Drake May 988 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 5: was under pressure a lot more than Matthew Stafford was. 989 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 5: And I know that there is the you know, the 990 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 5: talk about how Drake May got to play not as 991 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 5: good teams. Yes, but if you break that down by 992 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 5: defense specifically, that argument goes out the window. He played 993 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 5: some very very good defenses this year and again was 994 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 5: under more pressure and was still able to come up 995 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 5: with very similar numbers to Matthew Stafford. So I get 996 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 5: the hesitation if you know, he's like, it's second ear 997 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 5: in the league. You don't know what's gonna happen next year? 998 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 5: Bah bah, we don't. We don't do do trust Drake 999 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 5: May because like whatever, But it is a season award. 1000 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 5: It is for this season, and to me, what Drake 1001 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 5: May was able to do is just incredibly impressive and 1002 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 5: I think that that deserves recognition. 1003 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 3: But again, if Matthew Stafford wins it, that's fine too. Yeah. 1004 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 3: I think between the two of them, if the. 1005 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: Way I look at it, when it comes down to 1006 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 2: when you're that close last minute of a game, you 1007 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: have to make a drive down the field, and who 1008 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: which one of these two guys do you trust to 1009 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: make that happen after having both had incredible seasons with 1010 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 2: numbers that are as you said, neck and neck, Who 1011 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 2: do you trust? Who is your MVP that's going to 1012 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: get it done? And I'm going to say Matthew Stafford 1013 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 2: because we saw him do it and that's what he does. 1014 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just depends on how you look at the 1015 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 3: A word. 1016 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 4: So it does, all right. 1017 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 2: So let's move to what is kind of become like 1018 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: what the MVP adjacent award, The Offensive Player of the Year. 1019 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 3: MVP is a quarterback award. That's what it is. Now, 1020 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 3: it's a quarterback award. So now this is like. 1021 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: The other MVP the MVP part two is okay, it's 1022 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 2: a player, which is interesting because Drake may is in 1023 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: this kind of category as well. And then you have 1024 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, puknakua be John Robinson JSN. 1025 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 4: So there's. 1026 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: Can I add another name to that? 1027 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Tech McMillan in Carolina, Yeah he I mean the 1028 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers, especially towards the end of the season, came 1029 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 5: on relatively out of nowhere. 1030 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: I mean, they were right in the mix and they 1031 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 3: ended up winning the NFC South. 1032 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 2: So is he Is he your Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah, okay, 1033 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 2: go go off girl. 1034 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 5: I just like it doesn't it doesn't happen if Bryce 1035 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 5: Young doesn't have somebody to throw the ball to. 1036 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 4: Fair. 1037 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 3: I just I think that there is there's a there's 1038 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 3: a case to be made. 1039 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 4: Ye interesting, Yeah. 1040 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I don't know. 1041 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 5: It's just it's one of those things where do I 1042 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 5: actually think he's offense player with the absolutely not. But 1043 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 5: I just wanted to throw his name in there because 1044 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, I I he did so much this year, 1045 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 5: So I just I really. 1046 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he'll have his his his moment 1047 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 2: to shine in offensive rookie. 1048 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1049 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,919 Speaker 5: Do I think is going to win it? It is probably 1050 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 5: gonna be JSN. I think it's JSN. Yeah, especially with 1051 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 5: I mean you're not supposed to take into account post season. 1052 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 2: But I mean this was his breakout years. Third season 1053 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: in the league, this was his breakout year. I mean 1054 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: he just came alive. With Sam Darnold, he had three 1055 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 2: times as many receiving yards as Cooper cop their number 1056 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: two on the team, led the league in receiving yards. 1057 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 2: I have JSN winning Offensive Player of the year. 1058 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I agree with that. 1059 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: Okay, defensive player of the year kind of a no brainer, right, 1060 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, he said season yeah, yeah, twenty three, there's 1061 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: only what only player to record at least fourteen sacks 1062 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 2: and four straight seasons set a career high in tackles 1063 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 2: for lost thirty three that also led the league. And 1064 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: this is like, you know, even on a Browns team 1065 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: that you know, finished last in the AFC North only 1066 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: had five wins. Like he he is the shining beacon 1067 00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: in that franchise. 1068 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, he really is. He's the only good thing. 1069 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 5: I'm honestly like, I was shocked at the time when 1070 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 5: he decided to stay. 1071 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, how long was like how long did he was? 1072 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 4: His contract? 1073 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 11: Oh? 1074 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 4: There is he there over his career? 1075 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 3: His new his new contract. 1076 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's four years. 1077 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 5: But that's like he didn't need to sign it. He 1078 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 5: could have signed it anywhere else. No, literally, anywhere. 1079 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 3: Else had him. 1080 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: And I remember they thought, like they told me their 1081 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 2: plan and he believed. 1082 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, you do you know, I don't know. 1083 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 4: Nobody knows. 1084 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 3: Even at the conclusion of this season, nobody knows. Nobody knows. 1085 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 5: I like I'm like, what was the plan that they 1086 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 5: sold you on, because I can't imagine it was what 1087 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 5: happened this year? 1088 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 4: No? 1089 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 5: No, And then also like his contract is now also 1090 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 5: the reason why the Browns are never going to be 1091 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 5: good anytime soon because his contract on top of the 1092 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 5: quarterback situation, all the money that you have tied up 1093 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 5: in the just Shawn Watson took contract on top of 1094 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 5: having multiple other quarterback. 1095 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 4: Done this year, is this No? 1096 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 5: No, they have so much money left gross they are 1097 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 5: they are they have so much money tied up in 1098 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 5: the quarterback position with multiple guys. And then Miles Garrett 1099 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 5: and I'm just like, you're not gonna be like you 1100 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 5: have no money? Yeah, Browns to actually field a competent team. 1101 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 5: So why Miles Garrett chose to go back there? I mean, 1102 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know, but he is my 1103 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 5: unquestionable defensive player of the year. 1104 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, hands down. Okay, let's move to and I 1105 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 2: think we already mentioned the same offensive rookie of the 1106 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: Year Ted McMillan, Like, it's got to be only rookie 1107 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 2: this season to clear the thousand yard mark most receiving touchdowns, 1108 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 2: banning rookie and again this is on a Panther's team 1109 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 2: who had a losing season but won the division because 1110 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,479 Speaker 2: it's the NFC South. 1111 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 4: But he was like, kind of like that bright beacon. 1112 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, if I'm going to put him, you know, in 1113 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,479 Speaker 5: the mix for Offensive Player of the Year, which again 1114 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 5: I'm not. 1115 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 3: Really but you just want to give I wanted to 1116 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 3: give him some love and I want. 1117 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: To give him extra love and like for this this 1118 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 5: award in particular, I think it's a no brainer. 1119 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: When it comes to offensive player. There there's not a 1120 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 3: whole lot of offensive Brookie the Year. It's there's not 1121 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 3: a whole lot of. 1122 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 5: Like competition, Like I feel like offensive Rookie of the 1123 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 5: Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year are kind of like, 1124 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, it's it's pretty it was. It was 1125 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 5: easy at least for me to pick. 1126 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, then go give us your defensive. 1127 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 5: Defensive Rookie of the year. I will say offensive Rokie 1128 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 5: of Year. Colston Loveland also deserves, ok maybe a little 1129 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 5: bit of consideration just for what he meant to this 1130 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 5: Bears offense and Caleb Williams in particular, and for how 1131 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 5: far that team went. But defense, I have to have 1132 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 5: squeeze that in there, especially for Tracy, like I will 1133 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 5: I would not forget myself if I didn't say Colton 1134 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 5: Loveland's name for Tracy in particular. 1135 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 3: But no, DEFENSI rookie there, James. 1136 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 5: Pierce from Atlanta like ten and a half sacks this year, 1137 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 5: so I like, and Atlanta's defense it was not a 1138 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 5: good It was not a good year for Atlanta, right, 1139 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 5: but if you look at the defense and and what 1140 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 5: gives you hope in Atlanta. 1141 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely that side of the ball. 1142 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 5: And it's the fact that you have multiple young players, 1143 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 5: by the way, m hm on that side of the 1144 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 5: ball that are paying dividends for you right now. I 1145 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 5: mean not only is it is it James Pierce, but 1146 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 5: you also have Jalen Walker who was on the other 1147 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 5: side of him, who had I think five and a half. 1148 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 3: Sacks this year or something like that. So it's a 1149 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 3: really good. 1150 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 5: Young core and you have to be excited about that 1151 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 5: at your Atlanta So I ax or uh, yeah, James 1152 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 5: Pearce was mine. 1153 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 3: Okay. 1154 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: Defensive Carson Swessinger is also up there Lettle rookies with 1155 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty six tackles eleven tackles for los 1156 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 2: second among rookies with interceptions. 1157 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think either of those. 1158 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean neither that The hard part is neither 1159 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 5: one of those guys are on teams that did anything 1160 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 5: this year. So Carson on the Browns, the brown you also, 1161 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 5: I mean to me too, I mean, when you have 1162 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 5: a game wrecker like Miles Garrett on the field with you. 1163 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to be better. 1164 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 3: You're going to be better. 1165 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, when you're surrounded by greatness, you're going to 1166 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: get better matchups. 1167 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 3: You're gonna you know, because everybody's paying attention to him. Yep, 1168 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 3: So that's why. 1169 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 5: But I think, you know, the combination of of of 1170 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 5: James Pierce and Jalen Walker for Atlanta, that's that's really 1171 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 5: fun for me if if I'm an Atlanta fan, that's 1172 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 5: kind of what I'm hanging my hat on or that's 1173 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 5: what's giving me hope going forward. 1174 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 2: Love that. Okay, let's get to come back Player of 1175 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 2: the Year. Stephan Diggs, Aiden Hutchinson, Trevor Lawrence, Christian McCaffrey, 1176 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. 1177 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 3: I don't think this is particularly close either, Okay, go 1178 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 3: it's got to be. It's got to be CMC. 1179 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be. I was, I was hoping 1180 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 4: you were going that way. 1181 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 5: I was, like, the only the only reason, the only 1182 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 5: reason that the forty nine ers were able to withstand 1183 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 5: as many injuries as they did is because they have 1184 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey on there. 1185 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 2: Who didn't get injured, which didn't get in because his 1186 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: achille tendon itis. 1187 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 3: And an injury. 1188 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah he started all. 1189 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he started seventeen games, like rush for over twelve 1190 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: hundred yards, ten touchdowns, like, yeah, he just it has 1191 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 2: to be. It has to be Christian Graffrey. Okay, let's 1192 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: move to Coach of the Year. And this one's hard. 1193 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: This one's hard for me. Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald, 1194 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, Mike Rable. 1195 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, where there hasn't where comeback player was very easy. 1196 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 3: This is this is You could make a case for 1197 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 3: every single one, every single one of these coaches makes 1198 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 3: a case for everything. All of them. 1199 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, all of them. A couple of them. 1200 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 2: I think set a press like possibly an unrealistic precedent 1201 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 2: for like a new coach in a new place, for 1202 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 2: like what you can do in your first season to 1203 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 2: turn a franchise around, Like I am torn between Ben 1204 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 2: Johnson and Mike Frable to see what they both did 1205 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 2: in their first season with second. 1206 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 5: Liam Cohen is even more impressive because of the fact 1207 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 5: that he's a first. 1208 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 3: Time head coach, just like Ben Johnson. 1209 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 5: Like, I think the first time head coaches doing the 1210 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 5: one year turnarounds is insane to me, Like, not only 1211 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 5: did you turn the franchise around in one year, but 1212 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 5: it's your. 1213 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 3: First year doing this. 1214 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's wild, Like the jump from coordinator to head coach. 1215 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 5: You cannot overstate how hard that is. No, So I 1216 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 5: think I think it'd be between one of those guys. 1217 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 5: I would lean Ben Johnson, but I also got to 1218 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 5: Cobram all season, so. 1219 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 4: I also leaning Ben Johnson. 1220 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 2: I just the insane situation the Bears have been in 1221 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 2: over the last but. 1222 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 4: Thirty years, Kate, three decades, thirty years my entire life, Alex. 1223 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that was an insane glow up. 1224 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to go Ben Johnson, Okay, now I'm going 1225 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 2: to give the floor to you for Protector of the Year. 1226 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 3: This is so hard. 1227 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 4: I give a case then for all because I know 1228 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 4: this is. 1229 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 3: Your read me off the guys that you have. 1230 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 4: Who do we have? 1231 00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: We have Gary Bowles, Aaron Brewer, Great Humphrey, Penny Swell, 1232 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 2: Joe Thuni. 1233 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 3: Who do you got A. 1234 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 5: Nice little Joe Toney. Joe Toney is my answer, but 1235 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 5: it's it's hard. I think Garret Bowles deserves it too. 1236 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 5: One of the most underrated things all season long about 1237 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 5: Denver was their offensive line. Their offensive line which allowed 1238 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 5: Bonix to get better and to improve and for that 1239 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 5: offense to put points up and like that offensive line 1240 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 5: was so good. But then I can't talk about that 1241 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 5: and not talk about what the Bears did and bringing 1242 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 5: in an entirely new interior of the offensive line. When 1243 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 5: with Joe Toney, who is a four time Super Bowl champion, 1244 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 5: he has won the division every year except for one 1245 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 5: in his career, no matter what team he's been with, 1246 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 5: and what he is meant to this locker room in 1247 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 5: Chicago is essentially like bringing in that experience. Like for 1248 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 5: as for as good as he is on the field 1249 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 5: playing at an all pro level, and he's an all Pro, 1250 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 5: he is even more valuable. I feel like in the 1251 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 5: locker room and being able to tell guys like we 1252 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 5: heard so many stories of guys going like Caleb Williams 1253 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 5: himself going to Joe Toney after a tough loss, being like, 1254 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 5: how do we bounce back from this? 1255 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 3: How do we get right? Like whatever? 1256 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 6: This is? 1257 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 2: Like he was ever just protecting him. He was like 1258 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 2: a mental emotional support. 1259 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 5: He was everything for this entire offense. And Ben Johnson 1260 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 5: champions offensive lineman like no other. We heard that from 1261 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 5: multiple of those guys where he lets them know how 1262 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 5: important they are. But Joe Toney being there, you just 1263 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 5: cannot overstate his impact. And I just think that for 1264 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 5: the turnaround that happened in Chicago, it doesn't happen without 1265 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 5: Joe Tony. So I it like there were very tangible 1266 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 5: results to his presence on the team, And I think 1267 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 5: that that's what, you know, the spirit of this ord 1268 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 5: is how did you contribute to your team's success? And again, 1269 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 5: it does not happen without Joe Toney in Chicago. 1270 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 2: That's going to be a fun, fun first year for 1271 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: these for these big boys. All right, we're gonna take 1272 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 2: a quick break here. When we come back, only two 1273 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: head coaching c lve did teams get it right. You're 1274 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 2: listening to Fox Sports Radio. 1275 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1276 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 1277 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 1278 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: listen live. 1279 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here 1280 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 2: at Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon 1281 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: with us. 1282 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 4: Carme. 1283 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 2: Almost all the head coaching seats have been filled, only 1284 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 2: two leve Raiders and Cardinals. But uh, let's talk about 1285 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: the new head coaches. This week, Bills hired Joe Brady, 1286 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: Brown's hire Todd Monkin. But let's start with the Bills 1287 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: promoting their offensive coordinator, basically Joe Brady to be the 1288 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 2: new head coach. The owner came out really hot with 1289 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 2: this decision. We talked about it last week. I felt 1290 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 2: a little emotional how we fired Sean McDermott because he 1291 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: literally said he made the decision after seeing. 1292 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 4: All of his players, specially. 1293 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: Josh Allen crying after the loss to the Broncos. 1294 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 3: So, I mean, it. 1295 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 2: Felt like they just kind of needed new leadership, but 1296 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 2: didn't want to rock the boat too much because he's 1297 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 2: still going to be the offensive play caller as a 1298 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: first time head coach. But like, is this their best 1299 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 2: choice to get Josh Allen to the super Bowl, because 1300 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: that's what it is. 1301 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 4: It's going to be super Bowl or bust for them 1302 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 4: the next season. 1303 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: That this is this just reeks of. 1304 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 5: This was a really emotional and knee jerk reaction to 1305 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 5: using a really tough game, which wasn't Sean mcdermot's. 1306 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 3: Fault by the way. 1307 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 5: Oh and uh yeah, like we didn't really have a plan, 1308 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 5: Like that's what this signals to me, is like, ah, 1309 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 5: we're just kind of now making it up as we 1310 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 5: go along, because you can't tell me that keeping things 1311 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 5: relatively like very similar is going to do anything. And 1312 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 5: you're right, it is going to be super or bust 1313 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 5: for the Buffalo Bills. And is that fair to put 1314 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 5: on a guy that, again is making the jump from 1315 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 5: coordinator to head coach, Like, I don't know, I. 1316 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 3: Don't think so. 1317 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 5: But like Joe Brady's not going to get the grace 1318 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 5: period that I think a new like a brand new 1319 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 5: head coach. 1320 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna have the most pressure and the highest expectations 1321 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 2: next season, and. 1322 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 5: I mean part of that is warranted, but then you know, 1323 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 5: you get the Jim Leonard defensive coordinator higher and he 1324 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 5: came in from the team that beat them. By the way, 1325 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 5: he was the defensive passing game corner and assistant head 1326 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 5: coach in Denver for that defense, so the Bills are 1327 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 5: hiring him. He was also a Bills player. I believe 1328 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 5: he played for the Bills during his playing career, but 1329 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 5: he like all right, I mean he was he got 1330 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 5: the assistant head coach title, and he was a defensive 1331 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 5: passing game coordinator, which is you know, so the defensive 1332 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 5: coordinator is a step up. But yeah, theoretically think he's ready. 1333 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 5: And obviously Denver's defense was one of the best in 1334 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 5: the league this last year, so at this stage of 1335 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 5: the game too, that's it's a good hire. 1336 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,479 Speaker 3: But yeah, do you I don't. 1337 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if Joe Brady and Leonard are like friends, 1338 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 5: if they have a good working relationship yet, or if 1339 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 5: like that's like all of this matters talking about trying 1340 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 5: to win a Super Bowl in her very first year, 1341 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 5: like it's just it's not Again, the whole situation just 1342 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 5: reeks of Oh, we made this really emotional decision and 1343 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 5: didn't really have a plan behind it, and now we're 1344 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 5: just scrambling and trying to figure out what's the best 1345 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 5: course of action? 1346 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 4: Wild? 1347 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, wild. 1348 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 2: Now the Browns hire Todd Monkin, who was Ravens oc 1349 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 2: for also first time head coach, saw the video of 1350 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,959 Speaker 2: him and Shudoor Sanders, which feels like he's on board 1351 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 2: with Sanders being their kind of quarterback of the future. 1352 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 2: He told him, we tried to draft you. We'll talk 1353 01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 2: about that at some point. Vibes felt good. It's just 1354 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: tough because it's the Browns and it felt a little random. 1355 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 2: A few people pulled out of the Browns coaching search. 1356 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 2: As we know, remember they were making everybody write essays. 1357 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 5: Okay, So I know Todd Monkin. I worked with him 1358 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 5: at Tampa Inside adored him. He was one of the 1359 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 5: first coaches actually that allowed me to really like ask 1360 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 5: questions and he would tell me everything. He would sit 1361 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 5: me down in the shows like you work for us, right, yes, 1362 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 5: all right, I'm gonna tell you everything, and you're just 1363 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 5: gonna tell me what you can and can't use and 1364 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 5: it's fine, like you'll figure it out. 1365 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 1366 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 5: And so he really trusted me, and it was really 1367 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 5: it was a really cool experience. There was a couple 1368 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 5: of times I got to like sit with him at 1369 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 5: the lunch table and just like hear his stories. 1370 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, a good leader. 1371 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 5: He's hysterical, is I know that. People probably don't know it, 1372 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 5: but he's also he's been in the league for he 1373 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 5: hasn't had the opportunity, he hasn't had the opportunity to 1374 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 5: become a head coach. And he's taken multiple interviews over 1375 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 5: the course of years and years and years for head coaches. 1376 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 4: And it just hasn't worked out for this essay. 1377 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 5: I mean, well, that's the funny part is I cannot 1378 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 5: I cannot imagine Todd Okay, like absolutely not like I 1379 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 5: I honestly I would. I would wonder and maybe maybe 1380 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 5: I'll ask him about this if he ended up having 1381 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 5: to actually do that, because with especially with as many 1382 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 5: coaches as pulled out of the consideration for that job. 1383 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 3: I wonder if the Browns are like. 1384 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 5: Oh, maybe we should just like nix the yeah, nix 1385 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 5: the essay because what the head coach? 1386 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 3: What what football. 1387 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 5: Coach is ever going to want to write anything? If 1388 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 5: you know a football coach in your life, they're not 1389 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 5: They're not the moste. 1390 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 4: Nobody got time for that, nobody. 1391 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 3: Nobody has time for that. 1392 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 5: But they are they are like ball, ball and then 1393 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 5: more ball. Yeah, so I'm I'm very I'm I'm happy 1394 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 5: for Monk, for Monk that he ended up getting a 1395 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 5: head coaching gig. I wish it was under better circumstances. 1396 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 5: I wish he was being set up a little bit better. 1397 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 5: But he's had he's had success at various levels. He 1398 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 5: was Georgia's offensive coordinator for a while and took them 1399 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 5: to a couple of national titles and coach Lamar Jackson 1400 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 5: in Baltimore, and like he just he's been around. He 1401 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 5: knows what he's doing. I hope that he is being 1402 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 5: set up for success in Cleveland. Yes, but hey, you know, 1403 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 5: you get to be one of thirty two and you 1404 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 5: can't turn that down. 1405 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 4: Don't turn that down. 1406 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you maye feel a little bit better there. Also, 1407 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 2: like if you get inside info, you know. Now, all right, 1408 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 2: let's check go on Martin Wise and see what's trending. 1409 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 9: Paul George has been suspended without paying for twenty five 1410 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 9: games for violating in the NBA's anti drug policy. 1411 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 6: George releasing a statement. 1412 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 9: Saying he took an improper medication while seeking treatment for 1413 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 9: mental health. Former Broncos defensive pass game coordinator. Jim Leonard 1414 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 9: has been hired as Bill's new defensive coordinator, and Carmon, 1415 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 9: you were right. He did play for Buffalo when he 1416 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,959 Speaker 9: was playing safety. I believe New York Giants co owner 1417 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 9: Steve Tish has been named in the latest Epstein files, 1418 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 9: his name appearing four hundred and forty times among the 1419 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 9: released documents. His releasing his statement he actually got saying 1420 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 9: that he and Epstein had a brief association where they 1421 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 9: exchanged emails about adult women. In addition, we discussed movies, philanthropy, 1422 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 9: and investments. 1423 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 3: That statement doesn't make it better. He is still trafficking. 1424 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 9: He goes on to say I didn't take him up 1425 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 9: on any of his invitations and never went to his island. 1426 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 9: As we all know now, he was a terrible person 1427 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 9: and someone I deeply regret associating. 1428 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 5: I need to know who was the PRU that said 1429 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 5: that that was a good statement to say, because that's 1430 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 5: the worst statement ever. 1431 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 9: I mean, and I'm not saying that this is a 1432 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 9: good statement. I am not defending it by any stretch 1433 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 9: of the imagination. 1434 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 6: But what on earth can you say? What is that 1435 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 6: to saying no. 1436 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 3: You're right? 1437 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what there is done. 1438 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 5: You're done, You're done, but you essentially admitted to trafficking women. 1439 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 5: I don't It doesn't matter if they're adults. Trafficking women 1440 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 5: is still a horrendous act. 1441 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:05,919 Speaker 3: YEP. 1442 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 6: That's not good. 1443 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 9: And you made a good point, Carmen, in that if 1444 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 9: Frodi Goodell normally gets pressed about you know, ask the 1445 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 9: you know, diversity and head coaching hires at that press conference, 1446 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 9: I bet you he wishes Jim Trotter would be. 1447 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 5: Able to be there legitimately, like anything and everything is 1448 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 5: on the table during that press conference, So the NFL 1449 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 5: would be wise to do something about this before then. 1450 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 6: That's wrap up some college basketball stuff. 1451 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 9: Arizona remaining undefeated being Arizona State eighty seven to seventy four. 1452 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 9: UCF upset Texas Tech eighty eight to eighty, Louisville over 1453 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 9: SMU eighty eight to seventy four, Duke over Virginia Tech 1454 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 9: seventy two to fifty eight, Houston beat Cincinnati seventy six 1455 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 9: to fifty four, and in a Big Twelve match up 1456 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 9: here Kansas with a fifty three to thirty three halftime 1457 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 9: margin twenty point lead for the Jayhawks over the cooplars 1458 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 9: yet Darren Peterson and aj de bants in that one, 1459 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 9: Peterson with eighteen points. 1460 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 4: Ladies, back to you, thank you, Thank you. 1461 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 2: Martin, you're listening to Fox Football Saturday and Alex Caurreer here. 1462 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 4: With Carmen Vitally. 1463 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 2: We are bringing in our next guests because we are 1464 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 2: getting the crew together starting Wednesday up in San Francisco 1465 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 2: for Super Week. Please welcome Tracy Sandler, who's going to 1466 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 2: be joining us when we're up at radio road. 1467 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 12: Tracy, Hello, ladies. I'm so excited, though, are you. 1468 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm so excited now. 1469 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 2: This is kind of like your home base because you're 1470 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers beat reporter. What are you most 1471 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 2: looking forward to about Super Bowl Week being up in 1472 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 2: San Francisco. 1473 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 12: Oh, that is such a good question. Well, I'm going 1474 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 12: to have to say our show because I'm really really 1475 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 12: excited about that. So that's that's ever one. And you 1476 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 12: know what else, I'm really excited to be in San 1477 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 12: Francisco because I'm never in forty nine Ers practice and 1478 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 12: play in Santa Clara, which is a solid hour and 1479 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 12: a half away. 1480 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 4: That's insane hour and a half, which is yeah, I. 1481 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 12: Thought an hour hour and a half at least. No, 1482 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 12: it's about an hour and a half. 1483 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 3: Gosh more, it's hard. 1484 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 10: So it's not San Francisco. 1485 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 12: So not San Francisco. So honestly, I'm excited to be 1486 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 12: in San Franciscito. I'm never there. 1487 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've only been to like a couple forty 1488 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 5: nine Ers games at this point. Trace, But same deal is, 1489 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 5: like I never even stayed. You don't stay in San Francisco. 1490 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 3: You don't do it. You don't like fly into San 1491 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 3: Francisco and you and you fly in like. 1492 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 5: When you cover a game, you just fly in the 1493 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 5: day before and you fly out the day after. So 1494 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 5: it's not like you have any time to really do anything. 1495 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm with you, Strace. I'm so excited for 1496 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 5: this to be in San Francisco. But I am so 1497 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 5: excited that you were going to be joining us and 1498 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 5: we're all going to be together. But what is and 1499 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 5: you're someone that has been on Super Bowl Radio Row 1500 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 5: quite a bit, what is your favorite part of Super 1501 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 5: Bowl Radio Row and how like, what are you looking 1502 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 5: forward to all of us being able to do? 1503 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: Well? 1504 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 12: I think one of the coolest things about radio row 1505 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 12: is no matter who you are and why you're there. 1506 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 12: Any moment you can start talking to someone and interviewing 1507 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 12: them and that's just the cool thing about it. You 1508 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 12: just well, you're like, oh, you're here, can you talk 1509 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 12: for two minutes? Or oh, do you want to pop 1510 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 12: on my show in ten minutes? And it's a really 1511 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 12: fun thing. And again, it does not matter if you're 1512 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 12: George Kittle, you're Tracy Samdler, if you're John Smith, people 1513 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 12: will grab you. And it's super fun. And I don't know, 1514 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 12: it's really cool. It's like, in some ways, it's like 1515 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 12: the Great Equalizer. It's like Halloween where everyone's in costume, 1516 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 12: so it's just. 1517 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 4: Talk to people, right a roon, I see that. 1518 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 12: So it's gonna be fun. That's detally fun. 1519 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So looking ahead to Super Bowl next week, we're 1520 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 2: gonna be breaking it down all week on our show, 1521 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 2: on the. 1522 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 4: Super Week Show. 1523 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 2: But what is one of the big storylines that you're 1524 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 2: most looking forward to in this game? 1525 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 12: You know, it's I think it's gonna be the Drake 1526 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 12: May versus Sam Darnald. You have two quarterbacks playing in 1527 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 12: their first Super Bowl. Sam Darnald made it clear this 1528 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 12: week he hasn't been before he was with twenty three 1529 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 12: three hours, so he's been there the Super Bowls and 1530 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 12: who rises to vacation and I think that's going to 1531 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 12: be the really fun thing to see. Sam Darld is 1532 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 12: a veteran in this league, but in a lot of 1533 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 12: ways this is new to him. Drake May is this 1534 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 12: like revelation with Rabel and the Patriots are back? 1535 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 1: So? 1536 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 12: I think for me it is the quarterbacks. You have 1537 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 12: two tremendous defenses. Which of these quarterbacks can craft the 1538 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 12: opposing defense and be your Super Bowl winner? 1539 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 3: I love it. 1540 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 4: We're so excited. We are so excited, Tracy, We're. 1541 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 3: Gonna let you go. 1542 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Now we're gonna we're gonna call and bring in 1543 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 2: Little Nikky K, who's also going to be which is 1544 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 2: going to be so fun for anybody if you haven't 1545 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 2: been listening already. We are going to be on Fox 1546 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, YouTube and then no, okay, all right, so no, 1547 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,679 Speaker 2: we don't have Little Nicky K yet. So we're gonna 1548 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 2: keep you on Tracy until she comes on here. 1549 01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 3: And talk forever. 1550 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 4: Agree, Okay, can't we all? 1551 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 3: Isn't that why we do what we do for a living? 1552 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 4: What we do? 1553 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 2: But what can people expect from our Super I mean, 1554 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 2: we know what to expect, but what can people expect 1555 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 2: from our Super Week shows next week? 1556 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 4: Give them the tea person all. 1557 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 12: I think we have an all female led show, which 1558 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 12: I think is so cool and I don't but Noma, 1559 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 12: how many of those are going on with four? May 1560 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 12: I say, amazing women. But we're going to be talking sports, 1561 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 12: We're going to be talking pop culture. We're talking entertainment 1562 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 12: and bringing it all together and bringing each each of 1563 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 12: us as such a unique perspective about football, about the NFL, 1564 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 12: about entertainment, and we're going to be able to bring 1565 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 12: those perspectives together, talk about them, collaborate on them. And 1566 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 12: I just think that's going to be so much fun. 1567 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:43,720 Speaker 11: We have. 1568 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 12: We have so much fun on these shows that you 1569 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 12: guys are doing right now. So when you bring those 1570 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 12: four of us together with all of our different backgrounds, 1571 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 12: perspective specialties, I just think that is going to be 1572 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 12: so cool for people to be a part of. We're 1573 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 12: going to have some fun game going on. We're gonna 1574 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 12: have analysis. We are like basically, may I say, you're 1575 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 12: perfect Super Week coverage basically, I mean not that two 1576 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 12: are on Horn, But I. 1577 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 3: Think we are. 1578 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,799 Speaker 5: I want to talk about just kind of how crazy 1579 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 5: everything is just super Bowl Week in general, so it's 1580 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,440 Speaker 5: not just radio row, but I mean we're doing Wednesday 1581 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 5: Thursday Friday eight am call times Wednesday Thursday, nine am Friday. 1582 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,640 Speaker 3: But like the events surrounding the super Bowl. So are 1583 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 3: you are you going to go do honors, Tracy? 1584 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 12: I am doing part of honors, so I will be 1585 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 12: I will be at honors. You will see me on 1586 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 12: the carpet, which will be really fun. And so I 1587 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 12: am doing that and then going to a bunch of events. 1588 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,679 Speaker 12: And that's the thing with Super Bowl. You're going from 1589 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 12: sting to thing at every moment, and then the nighttime 1590 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 12: events starts so late. 1591 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that late. 1592 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 12: Invest in eye patches. Invest in eye patches. That's the 1593 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 12: best advice that I can give pretty much anybody. But 1594 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 12: they start so late. But there's just so many things 1595 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 12: going on at any one time. But that's also kind 1596 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 12: of cool because you get to experience so many things. 1597 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 12: If you're not at one, you're at something else, and 1598 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 12: it is a jam packed day. I always this is 1599 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 12: a joke. I always tell myself every year, I'm going 1600 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 12: to pack workout clothes. I can get a workout and 1601 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 12: everything I know what a gym is never happens. 1602 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even kid myself anymore. I don't. 1603 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 3: I don't. 1604 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 5: Actually I don't even bring my workout gear. Yeah, your 1605 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 5: workout gear. 1606 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 4: Also walking from event to event and walking. 1607 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:33,799 Speaker 3: These are in convention centers. 1608 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 5: And when I tell you like I have not, I 1609 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 5: have yet to go to a radio row at Super 1610 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 5: Bowl that I didn't have to walk a ton just 1611 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,680 Speaker 5: to get in between, like where the credential pickup is 1612 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 5: versus like where the entrance is versus like getting into 1613 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 5: the convention center. 1614 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 2: Okay, real quick game, yes before before we let you go, 1615 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 2: just because I feel like you're going to have a good, 1616 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 2: a good feel on this and you're going to be 1617 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 2: NFL Honors. Give us your pitch for Comeback Player of 1618 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,600 Speaker 2: the Year. And why it's Christian McCaffrey. 1619 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 12: Uh, because it's Christian McCaffrey. 1620 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:10,879 Speaker 7: Maybe because you look. 1621 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 12: At I think it's very unusual. Basically because it's Christian McAffrey. 1622 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 12: I think it's very unusual to have a player who, 1623 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 12: by no means is old, but he's getting later into 1624 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 12: his career, coming off and Achilles and CAF injury a 1625 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 12: running back, no less to go out to go out 1626 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,920 Speaker 12: the next season and basically carry his team to almost 1627 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 12: have a one thousand yard one thousand yard season. He's 1628 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 12: only missed, missed it by like seventy receiving yards. It 1629 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 12: was not that many. Yeah, and he, to me, he's 1630 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 12: the MVP because the San Francisco team, for everything that 1631 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 12: everybody else did and the way they came together, there's 1632 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 12: no Christian McCaffrey. This team maybe won three games. Maybe 1633 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 12: he to me is just so. To me, he's the MVP. 1634 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 12: So it's a no brainer in comeback Player of the 1635 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 12: Year when you see what he did and it's. 1636 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 4: Such a high level. 1637 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 12: I mean it was I it was if he never 1638 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 12: it was if you had never missed the season before. 1639 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 2: Which is to say that now we're both we were 1640 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 2: both hands down, same easy pick. All right, Tracy, we 1641 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 2: are so excited for next week. Thank you for coming on, 1642 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:12,680 Speaker 2: and let's have. 1643 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,679 Speaker 3: Like the best pleasure. 1644 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 4: Let's have the best time ever. 1645 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 12: I can't wait, lady, Let's have the best time ever. 1646 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 2: All right, thanks Trace, all Right, we're gonna take one 1647 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 2: more break here when we come back. We got our 1648 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 2: feel good stories of the week. You're listening to Fox 1649 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,639 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 1650 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1651 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: the nation. 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We had Tracy on 1671 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 2: last segment and now we are going to bring in 1672 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 2: the fourth member of our team. 1673 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 12: Little Nikki Kay, I'm so excited. 1674 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,519 Speaker 2: What are you most looking forward to for super Week 1675 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:41,520 Speaker 2: up in San Francisco? 1676 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,800 Speaker 11: Just being the dominant batties that we are holding court 1677 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,600 Speaker 11: on Radio Row. I think I think we're about to 1678 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 11: unleash some of the best sport slash pop culture dialogue 1679 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 11: that Super super Row has been yet to hear. 1680 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,440 Speaker 2: I like super Row. It is it called superwe rebranding. 1681 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm down for the rebrand. My brain's moving at a 1682 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 2: million miles super weak, Radio Row, super Row done. 1683 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 4: That's how it. 1684 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 3: Works, Nikki. 1685 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 5: I'm so excited that you're going to be joining us, 1686 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,600 Speaker 5: just from that little squeal as soon as you got on, 1687 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh you are from all of the stuff 1688 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 5: that we've already started to plan. You seem to be 1689 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 5: our social media maven. So tell people what we can 1690 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 5: people can expect because I don't even know what we're doing, 1691 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 5: to be honest, So tell us. 1692 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 4: What to expect and dictating. She's taken the lead. 1693 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 2: She's like me, I've got ideas, and then we're all 1694 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 2: get a manager. 1695 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 5: We're literally just like, all right, you tell us what 1696 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,720 Speaker 5: to do, do it, well, we'll do whatever you want. 1697 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,320 Speaker 11: I'm going to keep us ride on all of our 1698 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 11: social media trends. We're going to be We're going to 1699 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,559 Speaker 11: be asking the fun questions that nobody sees coming, you know, 1700 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 11: like hey, what what house would you be in if 1701 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 11: you're in Harry Potter? 1702 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 2: Or now you're speaking Karme's language? Do you know that's 1703 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 2: her like all time favorite and like that is her pride. 1704 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 11: I think we might have Harry Potter bit. 1705 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I could nail any Harry Potter trivia. I watched 1706 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 5: the I watched the movies. I listened to the books 1707 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 5: as I go to sleep every night. 1708 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 3: It's it's a thing to the narrator on. 1709 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 11: Those audio books are so pleasant. He's like the British 1710 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 11: Man and he can. 1711 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:22,799 Speaker 10: Yes, well now. 1712 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 5: They have the full cast versions. That is also uh 1713 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 5: that that does like they like they have a voice 1714 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 5: for every character and like Kira Knightley is like Minerva McGonagall, 1715 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 5: and there's like some really big names in there. But yeah, 1716 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,839 Speaker 5: I agree, I've I've listened to one of the books 1717 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 5: with the full cast. But like Jim Jim Gray, is 1718 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 5: it Jim Gray? 1719 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 11: Jim not Jim Gray, Not Jim Gray, the famous uh 1720 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 11: post or interviewer, but no, Jim something, I know, I 1721 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 11: know what you're putting down there. Yeah. 1722 01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good it's a good Uh, it's a 1723 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 5: good time. 1724 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 3: And those the class Jim Dale there it is. 1725 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 11: I was like, I know, what, what are you guys 1726 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 11: most excited about? I missed the chat with Tracy, but 1727 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 11: I mean, also, are we coordinating our outfits? What are 1728 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:12,559 Speaker 11: we doing here? 1729 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that. 1730 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 4: No, absolutely, not surprise to everybody. I'm just excited. 1731 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 2: I've never actually had a show on radio ROW, so this, 1732 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 2: I think is really rad. We're one of the only 1733 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 2: female led shows I think on radio on the network. 1734 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 2: So just like setting a precedent for fun sports entertainment, 1735 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,640 Speaker 2: it is going to be a time. You want to 1736 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 2: laugh a lot, you want to learn a lot, you 1737 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 2: want to have a good time, come hang out with us. 1738 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 5: I like, I love places like this because of the 1739 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 5: fact that, like you can't go more than ten feet 1740 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,639 Speaker 5: without running into someone, you know, yeah, and being able 1741 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 5: to catch up with a bunch of people and then 1742 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 5: also wrangle people to come on the show with us. 1743 01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 4: I know, Nikki, I feel like you're gonna be our 1744 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 4: what top wrangler? 1745 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 11: Oh, I'm a very good convincing. Hey, I think you 1746 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 11: need to do a live interview with with us. It's 1747 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 11: been it's become my forte sideline reporting it. 1748 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,639 Speaker 3: Who would be your dream guest to. 1749 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 2: You know what? 1750 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 11: I would really love to have an extended conversation with 1751 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 11: Jameis Winston. 1752 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 12: I really love. 1753 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 4: Yes, you will, He'll be there. 1754 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 3: I might be able to help. 1755 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 5: I might be able to help wrangle that, given that 1756 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,799 Speaker 5: we worked with each other and in Tampa. 1757 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been doing social stuff as Fox Fox Sports. 1758 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 2: I wouldn't imagine he would be That's a good one. 1759 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 2: That's a great plant the seed. Let's see if we 1760 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 2: can make that happen. 1761 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 4: Nikki, I think I think this. 1762 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 11: Is such a great opportunity to really just celebrate, you know, 1763 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 11: the culture around the sport too, and what Super Super 1764 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 11: Weak has become. So I'm so excited to be joining 1765 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,679 Speaker 11: you gal, and we're just gonna have the best time ever. 1766 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 2: We love it, Nikki, we can't wait. Thank you so 1767 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 2: much for coming on. It is going to be the 1768 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 2: best week ever. Carmi. Let's finally do our first show 1769 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 2: together in person. 1770 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,599 Speaker 3: In a while. 1771 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be so much fun, everybody. 1772 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,519 Speaker 4: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. 1773 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,640 Speaker 2: We'll see you up in San Francisco next Wednesday on 1774 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube page and listen to it 1775 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 2: on the podcast We Can't Wait. 1776 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 10: Bye.