1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Our Way with yours truly Paul Anka and my buddy 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, folks, this 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: is Paul Anka. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: And my name is Skip Bronson. We've been friends for 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: decades and we've decided to let you in on our 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: late night phone calls by starting a new podcast. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: And welcome to Our Way. We'd like you to meet 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: some real good friends about us. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Your leaders in entertainment and. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even as sitting 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: president or two. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Join us as we ask the questions they've not been 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: asked before, tell it like it is, and even sing 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: a song or two. 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our way. 16 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: I don't know where you are. 17 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: You're always traveling somewhere, so I'm not sure where you are. 18 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: All right, okay? Cool? 19 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 2: Well, you know today we have Kevin Neil and who 20 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: I know through my wife Feet because she was at 21 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live all those years and I got to 22 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: know Kevin. And he's a blast. He's very dry, he's funny. 23 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: I love when he sort of gets you, you know, 24 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: you don't even know. He'll say something and you say, yeah, 25 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: that's right, and then all of a sudden, you say, 26 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: wait a second, he's fucking with me and. 27 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: He's a lot of fun. 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: But we have to get him talk about you know, 29 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: he was the host of Weekend up Date on Saturday 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Night Live for so long. 31 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah I remember that. Yeah, yeah, what about the hiking thing? 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: I enjoy watching that. That's pretty cool. 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's got that YouTube series Hiking with Kevin. 34 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: I think he's done. Believe it or not, I think 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: he's done one hundred episodes. I just troned in a 36 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: few weeks ago. I was watching. He had Brian Cranston 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: on me, and he gets some pretty significant guests to 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: go hiking with. You should all kidding aside, you should 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: do that with him. I think it'd be fun for you. 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: They'd come and hike my property with me. 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: You know, you know the back ways. You can help 42 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: him out. 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, the good trails. No, but that's gonna 44 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: be funny. Seems like a good guy in terms of 45 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: articulating comedy and what he's doing and all that stuff. 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, people love him. He's you know, he's had so 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: many television shows. Weeds, you know, with Mary Louise Parker 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: was enormously successful. I mean he's had just a great 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: another one of these people that came out of SNL 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: and you know, wound up with a great career beyond it. 51 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: If I've known him going back to like the late nineties, 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: when I when I was hanging around Saturday Night Live 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: while Edie was working, and I was just you know, 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: taking it all in. 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: And then I started to play golf with him. 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: He was a golfer, so that became the common denominator, 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: and so we started to spend time there. We also 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: talked to him about he was like, may not get 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: this right, but he was like the honorary mayor or 60 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: something of Pacific Palisades, a suburb of LA where he lives. 61 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: We should sort of hit. 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: On that too, well, read up on him. Jordan's gonna 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: send me some stuff and I'll read up on him 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: and we'll have fun as usual. 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think you'll enjoy it. 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: Man, Thanks for re call, and I'll talk to you 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: another hour after dinner. 68 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: That'd be great. I'll think of something clever in between. 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: Please talk to you later. 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: I love you too. 71 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going. 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: Here's the man? Hey, k man? 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? What's up? 74 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: Heah? 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: I wish every they were working up, but they ain't nowadays. 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: But anyway, you above ground, you're above ground. 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 5: Your friends with Linda Thompson, right. 78 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a blaster of the past. 79 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 5: She's a buddy. 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: I knew her in her unhappy days with Foster. 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 5: She's many unhappy days. 82 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeahs unhappy days with Elvis. Elvis, we understood. She's a 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: great gual. 84 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: After every podcast that Paul and I do, I get 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: a note from her. She's so sweet. Yeah, she's wonderful, 86 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: wonderful and talented. 87 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she really is. She really is such a 88 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 5: nice person. 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: First of all, I have to start with your friend 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: the Edie Baskin said, you must tell Kevin that I 91 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: just adore him. So check that box. 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 6: Done well, I adored too. So talk about talent. She 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: is so talented. What a photographer. 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: She's great. 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and a nice person and a tall person. 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 5: Is she taller than Ski? 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: Of course we can evade that subject. You tall people. 98 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 6: You know a lot of people see me, Paul, and 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 6: they don't realize I'm this tall, and it really boggles 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 6: their mind because it's it's funny when you have the 101 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: idea of somebody's height in your head and you see 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 6: them in person and it's not accurate. It really takes 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 6: them aback a little bit. And people mention that a 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 6: lot Kevin about me. 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: When I meet people Kevin, they don't think I'm missed 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: tall either. No, that's five three or four. 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: You know. 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: I went to the doctor. 109 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: I was talking to Steve about this, a mutual friend, 110 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: Steve Wynn, and we're both like, say what we both 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: lost three inches? 112 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I heard that happens. 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: As you get older. You guys don't have to worry 114 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: about it yet. I'm three inches less. 115 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: But speaking of older, you know, I forgot Kevin is 116 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: the younger looking seventy year old. I know, no joke, 117 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: no joke. Yeah, I get that. He get deally young 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: for his age. 119 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 6: Skip, I look young on the outside but the inside. 120 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 6: I just had my fourth joint replaced, which one from arthritis. 121 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 5: Oh my name, I left knee. But it's it's a genetic. 122 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 6: Uh. 123 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: You know. 124 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 6: I tell people from playing football stuff, but it's really 125 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 6: it's from my mother. She had a lot of but 126 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 6: she did play football, so she's got an excuse. 127 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: I had a cage fighter. She's a cage fighter too. 128 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Paul Love that woman. I want to meet her. Yeah, 129 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I think I can handle her now, it probably could. 130 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: You know. 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 6: It's funny, you know, whenever I'm talking to somebody around 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 6: my age, it always becomes about medical issues. 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: That's right. 134 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: I'll be talking to somebody and then I say, can 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 6: we please just go without talking about your blood pressure 136 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 6: or you know your cholesterol, or that you know your 137 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 6: neuropathy and the feet for just one minute. 138 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: That is so true. And it's also the drug, the 139 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: latest pill, right, Oh have you tried such and such? 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh no, I've got a better one. What's yours? 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: Everybody's got one? 143 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: Well, the truth is I don't have room in my 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 6: pill box for one more pill. If I'm prescribed another pill, 145 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 6: I tell the doctor I said, okay, but I have 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 6: to take another pill out of the box to replace it, 147 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: because it's like a suitcase now, you know, when you 148 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 6: have to sit on a suitcase to close it. 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: Don Olmyer used to say when people would say that 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Don Omyer they wanted him to meet someone, Don would say, 151 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: I used the lifeboat theory. What's that if someone gets 152 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: into the boat, someone's got to get out of the 153 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: boat first. 154 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: Same deal, Same deal. 155 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: I love Quincy. Quincy. 156 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: I think he told me a couple of years ago. 157 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: He's hanging in. He's unknown. I'm getting old. I'm getting diseases. 158 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I can't pronounce. 159 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 5: It's true. That's part life though. 160 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of getting old, I have to tell you I 161 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: was looking at your tour schedule and I saw that 162 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: you're doing multiple show was in Saint Louis, and then 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: I remembered that you were born in Saint Louis, but 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: you grew up like me. You grew up in Connecticut, 165 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: and ultimately I know you went the Sacred Heart, which 166 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: is in Fairfield, and that's where your friend and my wife, 167 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: Hedie Baskin lived when we were Wirfield, right when we 168 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: were first together. We're at Greenfield Hill in Fairfield. 169 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a beautiful area there. 170 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 6: I was born in Saint Louis and people see that 171 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 6: on my Wikipedia or whatever. 172 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 5: But I only lived. 173 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 6: There for three weeks because my father graduated from Slough 174 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 6: Saint Louis University and then he got a job in Connecticut. 175 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: But I tell people I just didn't like the place. 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 6: I got in the car. 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: I split. 178 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: You know, did I see that you lived in Germany? 179 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 6: Kevin yeah, I lived in Germany for like years, four 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 6: years when I was six until I was ten, so 181 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 6: that would be around nineteen fifty nine to sixty four 182 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: around there, and that was great. Where was it Heidelberg? 183 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 6: Did you It sounds like you lived in Germany. 184 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: For a while. 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: I did ice fresh noodle, cell kraut, ondre leider, jovo 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: gibs and just had a teacher. Her name was secret Folkeman, 187 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: and she insisted we started eight in the morning because 188 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: I had to do a whole album in German. I 189 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: didn't do eight in the morning when I was poor, 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: so she was all over me. I'd say they were miserable, 191 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: but she taught. 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 5: Me to do the words rhyme in GERMANO and another language. 193 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: Not like they do in our language. 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: It's like would be like vice versa noodle gizl from 195 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: bayant Land this vere so you get it maybe on 196 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: the last second, third day then and then jo vo 197 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: gibst and e liber it's five mach and that was 198 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: German gizl Monika. Yeah, they they'd rhyme them up at 199 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: the end, but it's all up in the tongue in 200 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: the front of the mouth, you know. It's a tough language. 201 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't like French or Italian. Those were easy for me. 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because I know the Beatles did that too 203 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 6: for a little bit, a little bit on their album. 204 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, I saw them Kevin in Paris when they 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: were just doing covers. I went to see a friend 206 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: of mine who was a big, big star over there 207 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: at the Olympia Theater. You probably know, it's the great 208 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: classic house, and and I went in to see, uh, 209 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: this friend of mine and the announcer because they always 210 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: had opening acts ladies and gentlemen, stous and these four 211 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: guys walk out with the hair and the look, and 212 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm going, what the hell is this? And I'm a kid, 213 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, I was blessed that I was over there 214 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: singing that you know, left the country at seventeen, eighteen ninety, 215 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: and that's where I first met those guys. And you 216 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: know when I started rapping with them, after they said, yeah, 217 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: we got to start writing our own songs. We're doing 218 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Chuck Berry and blah blah blah blah blah. You know, 219 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: for years, I'd come back from Europe and I'd go 220 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: to my agent, Norman Weiss, and Uh, I'd say these 221 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: guys over in England, you're not being a media driven society. 222 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, nobody know what the hell was going on 223 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: outside of each city over here and along in the 224 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: short one. I pounded him for a couple of years 225 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: until he finally flew over and Matt Epstein and brought 226 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: him over on The Sullivan Show. But that's the first 227 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: time I met the Beatles. And then, as you said, 228 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: they started in Germany, you know, as a as a 229 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: cover band. That's where they started. Yeah, that was the 230 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: first countries that they were. Yeah, that's where they were playing. 231 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what a treat to be able to 232 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 5: see them that long ago. 233 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 6: I like to ask people who their first concert was, 234 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 6: and you know, they'll say whatever, whoever it was. 235 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 5: And then I had this British driver. 236 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 6: He was probably about seventy two at the time, and 237 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 6: I said, who was your first concert? And he thought 238 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 6: about it for like twenty seconds. He goes, because the Beatles, 239 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: the Beatles. It wouldn't take me twenty seconds to tell somebody, Yeah, 240 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 6: to think of who his first concert was, I mean, 241 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 6: would I would have like round the Beatles. I saw 242 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: the Beatles at the cavern, you know, that's where he 243 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 6: saw them. 244 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: It's so wild because when I watched them, or any 245 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: of the the acts have been around. Until they put 246 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: that mileage in, they're not worth going to the concert. 247 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,359 Speaker 1: They got to do at least two three thousand metaphorically 248 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: to really get something for you to watch, because they're 249 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: usually very bad when they're in that growing stage. 250 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, very bad. Yeah, I know. 251 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: And they're playing all night too, and they're repeating a 252 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 6: lot of the same songs. 253 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it like all the time. On those 254 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: rock and roll shows. We were just, you know, kids 255 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: doing one and two songs two hundred bucks a week, 256 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: and we were terrible. But the kids were screaming and yelling. 257 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: They didn't know the difference. 258 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 6: I was in the garage band growing up, and we 259 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 6: were horrible. But I'll be listening to the radio now 260 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 6: and I'll or whatever, and I'll hear a song that 261 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 6: we used to do in our band, you know, like 262 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 6: Midnight Confession or Windy, you know, one of those songs. 263 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 6: And I started compiling a list of all the songs 264 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 6: that we did because we only had like twelve thirteen 265 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 6: songs that we did cover songs. So it's fun to 266 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 6: do that, and I kind of I think I've got 267 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 6: them all now, you. 268 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: Know, indigenous to what you were saying that I've always noticed, 269 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, you talked about just starting up how far 270 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: you can go. I've been around comics, you know, all 271 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: my life. They opened for me from the coponn when 272 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: as a kid. I'm always curious about the ones that 273 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: just don't even to this day, don't quite make it 274 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: because all of the it isn't there. You know, they're 275 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: not subscribing to commercialism. I mean, you know those that 276 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: are making it, and there's a lot of dynamics they 277 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: make it. What about guys like is it Kat Williams 278 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: or EPP's the guy that's on television. Yeahs, some of 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: their routines are classic. Well what's your feeling about guys 280 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: like that? 281 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: Well, like you said, some people have that it and 282 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 6: others don't, and then others don't have that it and 283 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 6: some of them make it huge. Now, there's a lot 284 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 6: of comics now that I would say a lot, but 285 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 6: a good handful of comics that are selling out arenas 286 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 6: now and huge venues, and a lot of times it 287 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: comes from them doing their podcast or just hitting the 288 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 6: same market over and over and over. Again over the years, 289 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 6: and I think comedy has become much more accessible than 290 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 6: it used to be social media, so people are more 291 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 6: familiar with different comics. Kat Williams, you know, he's he 292 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 6: has a specific style of comedy. It's more of an 293 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 6: urban kind of an act. And Michael Epps, I'm not 294 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 6: as familiar with his comedy. 295 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a good question. I don't know what. 296 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: They're funny. They're funny, They're very funny, yeah, but they 297 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: never get the forum to be seen that way. You know, 298 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: you get down to some of the guys around today, 299 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: there's you know, there's ethnic reasons, there's so many reasons 300 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: why it's all encompassing and that they're doing it. But 301 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I was I was always even like years ago, you 302 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: know the comics I choose from because you know Johnny Carson, 303 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, I hired him to do a show with me. 304 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Nobody was even looking and I hired and brought him 305 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: to England because I needed comic value. But you know, 306 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: nobody was aware of him in the beginning until he. 307 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Hit the television. 308 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wow, that was amazing to have him open 309 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: up for you. 310 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: But by the way, so you know, Paul wrote the 311 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: Tonight Show theme song. That's the theme song that we 312 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: use for that's right. 313 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 5: I forgot about that. 314 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: We didn't like skips. We didn't like skips. He submitted one. 315 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: Ding. 316 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: Uh, it didn't It didn't fly. 317 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: But you can hardly wait. I'll tell you some real estate. 318 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I'll meet you at the gate. 319 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 6: Was that a song you specifically wrote for the Tonight 320 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 6: Show or was that a song you were panhandling for 321 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: a while and then the Fight Show said yeah, I'll 322 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 6: take that. 323 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Kind of a little of both, you know, you know, 324 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: the way you take your material and your file it. Johnny, 325 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: when we got home after he was on the Grown 326 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Out of TV special, I ran into him and I say, hey, 327 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: what's up. He said, I know, you know, still floundering around, 328 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: but I might do this Tonight Show team for a year. 329 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: Ha ha. What there nine years. 330 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Later and I'm changing this and changing that. And you know, 331 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I was a song man. I was, you know, didn't 332 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: think I was going to last. So you know, I 333 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: wrote Buddy Hawley's last song and a bunch of people, 334 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: and I was just trying to stay with a foundation 335 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: as a writer. So he said, and I might need 336 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: a new song. You know, wrong guy to talk to 337 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: with that. So I went in the studio a couple 338 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: hundred bucks like I did with Longest Day, and I 339 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: put the vision down. 340 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: I sent it to him and he. 341 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: Said, uh, love it, and then he covered the next 342 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: day said sketch Henderson, who's with the show and has 343 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: been doesn't want some kid horning in and we can't 344 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: use it. And I said, Johnny, you know, I'll tell 345 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: you what. I'll give you half the song. I'll give 346 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: you half. 347 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: I'll give you half of everything. 348 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Then he called me the next day he said, you 349 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: got it. So that's how it got on. 350 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: Jennerson. I gave him everything. We put his kids through 351 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: school on mine. No, we made we made a lot 352 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: of money. 353 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: Sure, still still probably that's amazing. 354 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Well not as much we would know, hey, but you 355 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: know what, we had a good ride with it. 356 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 357 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no there's no forum for it today, certain licenses. 358 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: But I was off the off the show totally until 359 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: I gave away half and I had nothing anyway, so 360 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. 361 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: You know. Things happened a lot of. 362 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 5: Efficiency, Yeah, that's for sure. 363 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: When you were talking about comedians and venues, we had 364 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: Bill Burron as a guest, and he performed at Fenway Park. 365 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: So the thought that a comedian could perform in a 366 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: in a stadium like Fenway Park is just extraordinary. So 367 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: that's that's so different from the way things used to be. 368 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 2: If you will, you know, comedy, it's a whole different thing, 369 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: and that now of course with Netflix and all the 370 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: things that you've done. But how did you know? As 371 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: long as I've known you, I've never asked, but how 372 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: did you first get started? I know where that went obviously, 373 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: but how did you start? 374 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 5: I was wondering when you're going to ask me that question? Finally, finally, yeah. 375 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Kevin did When did you start? 376 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 5: Kevin? 377 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: I read something I really want to know. When did 378 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: you start? How did you start? 379 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: You know, I was just a kid out of the Bronx. 380 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 381 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 5: It just kind of fell into it, that's all, you know, 382 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: That's all. Uh No. 383 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: I I love stand up comedy and I would used 384 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 6: to highlight the name of the comics and the TV guide, 385 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 6: whether it was George Miller or Jay Leno or Alan 386 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 6: King whoever, and I would make sure that I was 387 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 6: home to see them perform. And I love like memorizing 388 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 6: the jokes in the back of the Parade magazine, my 389 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 6: favorite jokes by whoever the comic was. And then I 390 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 6: go to a party and I kind of personalized those 391 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 6: jokes like it was my life that it happened to. 392 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 6: Like I would tell a friend, Hey, man, did you 393 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 6: hear about this guy yesterday? He stole a fire truck 394 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 6: downtown And they're all like, are you serious? I go yeah, 395 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 6: they said, did they get the guy? I go, yeah, 396 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: they got them, and some guy that stole a cop 397 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 6: car pulled them over and got them. So I memorized 398 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 6: those jokes, and then you know, one front of mine 399 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 6: said hey, you should go into the comedy clubs and 400 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 6: you know, do an act, and so I went to 401 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 6: New York. I checked out some of those clubs like 402 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 6: the Catch, Rising Star and the Comic Strip Live, and 403 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 6: it just terrified me. 404 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 5: There's New York comics. 405 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: You know, they're smoking the clubs back then, and the 406 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 6: comics were really brash and edgy. 407 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 5: So I thought, California is that's going to be my place, 408 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: more laid back. So I just came out here and 409 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 5: started putting together an act long story short. 410 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: And then you wound up going back to New York 411 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: because Saturday Night Live from nineteen eighty six to nineteen 412 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: ninety five. My wife Edie, of course, was there starting 413 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: with show number one as the photographer, and you got 414 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: there in eighty six. I actually met her in ninety one. 415 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: Oh really yeah. 416 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 2: But a lot of the people sort of referred at 417 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: the time that you were there as the golden era 418 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: of Saturday Night Live, the cast that was there when 419 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: you were there. By the way, Chris Rock called me today. 420 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: He's in la and he said to say, Hi, do 421 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: you needless to say? 422 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 5: Oh? So nice? And would you tell him? I said, Hi, 423 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 5: next time you see him, we will call each other. 424 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: But you you auditioned, right, I mean the standard that 425 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: was the standard way that everybody got the job. You weren't. 426 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: They didn't come after you. Everybody went there to audition, right. 427 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 6: No one comes after me, nobody, you guys, air, this was. 428 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 5: Well what happened to a lot of people. 429 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: In fact, a lot of people ask me how I 430 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 6: got on Saturday Night Live, although they phrased it more 431 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 6: like this, how did you get on Saturday Night Live? 432 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 6: You know, aside from being lucky because I didn't do 433 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 6: characters or sketches or accents or anything. I was friends 434 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 6: with Dana Carvey, and Dana Carvey get on the show, 435 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 6: and rightfully so, because he does characters and accents and 436 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 6: the sketches, and so I was really excited for him. 437 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 6: And off he goes to New York and two weeks later, 438 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 6: get a call from him, Kevin, I dont Laura Michael's house. 439 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 6: I'm in the back bedroom, guess was in the kitchen, 440 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 6: Bill Murray. I'm like, no way, he goes, Yeah, I said, 441 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 6: he said, Laurenn's looking for a one more cast member. 442 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 6: I told her about you, and I think he's going 443 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 6: to want to see your audition tape. And I'm like, 444 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 6: Bill Murray's in the kitchen, you know. 445 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: What I mean. 446 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 6: I wasn't even acknowledging that other stuff because I knew 447 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 6: I wouldn't get it. I knew I wasn't gonna get 448 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: rejected because I knew I didn't new characters. You know, 449 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 6: I'm just a stand up, a really really good stand up. 450 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 6: So I sent my audition tape in two weeks later, 451 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: get the call from Dana VI. I'm back, got to 452 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 6: Laura Mike Gus he was in the kitchen. Steve marn 453 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: no yeah, anyway, Lauren, like you tape, they're gonna fly 454 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 6: in the front audition, I said, Steve Burns in the kitchen. 455 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 6: I just wasn't buying into it anyway. I fly in 456 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: pre airline ticket. Brian Kraston took my seat, so that 457 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 6: wasn't so good. 458 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 5: But I do my little. 459 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 6: Audition and I fly back, and two weeks later I 460 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 6: found myself sitting in a high rise in Beverly Hills, 461 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 6: across from LORNI. He's offering me a job in SNL 462 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 6: and I told him, let me think about it over 463 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 6: the weekend. That's how I rolled it. That's how I 464 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 6: massaged the deal. Do you know what I mean? And 465 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 6: he said, you think about it over the weekend. We'll 466 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 6: see in New York on Monday. And the rest is 467 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 6: what happened. 468 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 2: But think about the cast that was there with you. 469 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: So Chris Rock who we spoke about, Adam Dana Carvey, 470 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Chris Farley, Rob Schneider, you know. 471 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: What, Phil Hartman, Yeah, Phil Harmon Skip. 472 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 6: When I first came on, this must have been the 473 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 6: smallest cast ever is eight. I think there was eight 474 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 6: of us, and then as time. 475 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 5: Went on, more and more people came on. 476 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 6: Farley came on, Sandler Mike Myers, so it became maybe 477 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 6: thirteen people. But now if you watch it, the intros 478 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 6: take maybe about five minutes because they're introducing everybody and 479 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 6: featuring guest starring. 480 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: And the man off the Street we don't even know 481 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: who he is. 482 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: It's so true. 483 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Anybody who are all struck with Kevin between your Hiking 484 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Show and SNL, anybody. 485 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: That you are really yeah, yeah, you know. 486 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 6: First of all, Paul I felt like I was just 487 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 6: an outsider on the show. I felt like I had 488 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 6: imposters syndrome. I felt like I'm not really qualified to 489 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 6: the Ennis Show because I don't do characters or accents. 490 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 6: But Lauren got me because of the chemistry between I 491 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 6: had with Dana and Dennis Miller and Jan Hoaks with 492 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: my girlfriend at the time, so he was doing it 493 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 6: based off of that. But I've seen you know, it 494 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 6: was mostly musicians that I was all struck by. Steve 495 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 6: Martin was I was always a fan of his, so 496 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: when he came out, I was excited in Bill Burray. 497 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 6: But as far as the musicians, I mean, I saw 498 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: Roy Orbison was on, you know, I was always a 499 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 6: fan of James Taylor's and so I got to meet 500 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 6: him and we became friends from that, Mick Jagger, Path, Richards, 501 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: Paul Simon. I get to see all these dinosaurs, all 502 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 6: these musicians I grew up. You know, they're my soundtrack, 503 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 6: my life, and and and just to be able to 504 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 6: hang out with them have lunch. I mean, what a 505 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 6: great experience that was for someone who didn't even belong there. 506 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: En off point Andy Kaufman during your time Improv. 507 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 6: Andy Kaufman was and it was one of my influences. 508 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 6: It was Andy Kaufman, Steve Martin, and Albert Brooks. Those 509 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 6: three guys right there were my inspiration and I met 510 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 6: all three of them. And Andy Kaufman, I love. He 511 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 6: really influenced me a lot because the way he kind 512 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 6: of misdirected everything and kind of fooled the audience. 513 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 5: So I met him. 514 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 6: I would see him at the Improv in Hollywood because 515 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 6: I was a partender there for two years, and I 516 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 6: would meet all these comics that I used to see 517 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: that I highlighted their names as the TV guide here. 518 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 6: They were all of a sudden, you know, ordering a 519 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: white wine from me, and Andy Kaufman would come in 520 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 6: and you know, I watched him do his act in 521 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 6: the back room, and then, I mean and I was 522 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 6: too shy to go up to him. 523 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: I was too intimidated. 524 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 6: And then one day he was standing out one night, 525 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 6: he is in front of the air problem and against 526 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 6: the wall, and I knew he was into TM transidental meditation. 527 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: So I went up there and I asked him about it, 528 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 6: and he talked to me for about a half hour 529 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: and didn't look at me that much. Was just kind 530 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 6: of looking at the traffic going by, and I wasn't 531 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 6: listening too much to them. I was just looking at 532 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 6: his face and looking at the moles on his face. 533 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: But it was a great experience. I was so happy 534 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: about that. 535 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: And how about Jim Carrey, Man, did he do a job? 536 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 5: Jim Carrey's great. I mean, so did he do a job? 537 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: He was amazing in that phone. Yeah, he really nailed it. 538 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he's great. Man. 539 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 6: It's just there's so many great comics out there, and 540 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 6: I've seen so many great ones. 541 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: Gary Shanling was a good friend of mine. He was 542 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: one of my mentors. 543 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 2: Knew Gary up. 544 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 5: Harry was great. You know, Bob Stage It's is. 545 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 6: Richard Lewis always it's sad when you start seeing all 546 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 6: these people fall along the wayside. I'm sure you've seen 547 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: that throughout your life with singers and. 548 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: More more recently, Buddy, more recently too many in the 549 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: Bowling Alley. 550 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, So when you were on the show, you 551 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: were the host of Weekend Update, which you know, was 552 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: always one of the favorite parts of the show for me. 553 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: That and the fact that going back to the music, 554 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: as you know, keV Thursday's the music guest rehearses on 555 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: the set and for those of us who are lucky 556 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: enough to be in there, you got to see something 557 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: that was very special, up close and personal. But my 558 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: favorite Kevin has to be when you were in the 559 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: Hans and Franz skip based upon you know, Schwartz and er. 560 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever crossed the paths with him? 561 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 562 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, yeah. 563 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 6: So we were obviously basing our characters on on Arnold Schwarzenegger. 564 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 6: So so when we heard he wanted to come on 565 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 6: the show and being a sketch with Hans and Franz, 566 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 6: Dana and I looked at each other and we thought, geez, 567 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 6: doesn't he know we're making fun of him? 568 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: Doesn't he know that? 569 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 5: And then we realized. 570 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 6: We figured, maybe he's coming on the show to rough 571 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 6: us up a little bit, right. So that day came 572 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 6: and they got us. They said, Arnold's in his dressing room. 573 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 6: He wants to talk to you guys. So we were 574 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 6: like two kids going to the principal's office. We were 575 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 6: blaming each other. You came up and I know I did, 576 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 6: you did. I said not to do it, and now 577 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 6: it's too late. We get to his dressing room. His 578 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: name was on the door. His name was so long 579 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: it went onto the wall a little bit. 580 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: We knocked on. 581 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 6: That's right, We knock on his door and we open 582 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 6: it up. And I'll never forget this scenario. It was 583 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 6: full of cigar smoke. We could barely see him sitting 584 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 6: across the room, and he had a big cigar in 585 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 6: one hand, and on the other hand he had the 586 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 6: script that we wrote for him. 587 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 5: And he looked up to us through the cigar smoke 588 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: and he goes, I know, fellows, now, how am I 589 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 5: supposed to do the accent? 590 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 3: Right there? 591 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: We knew he had a sense of humor. 592 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: That he's been using a lot of those Arnold you 593 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 6: know slogans, like even when he ran for governor. 594 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: He was quoting all those lines. 595 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: He's so terrific. I have to say he. We have 596 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: a place up in Sun Valley, Idaho, and I know 597 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: him a little bit through there, and I would go 598 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: to the gym early in the day because I don't ski, 599 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: and all the skiers were up on the mountain, so 600 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: I had the whole gym to myself. And one day 601 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: two guys came in wearing sports jackets with earpieces, and 602 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: sure enough, next thing you know, the door opens the 603 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 2: governor of California comes walking in. So as I see him, 604 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: I take the pin on the machine where I'm lifting 605 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: weights and I put it all the way down at 606 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: the bottom. And I don't want to I don't want 607 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: I don't want to look wimpy. And I watched him 608 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: start to work out, and he's lifting one plate on 609 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: every machine, pull down one plate, press one plate, and 610 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what's this about. So as he was walking out, 611 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: I said, I have to ask you a question. Why 612 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: do you only lift one plate? And he said, oh, 613 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm own. I said, oh, toning interesting. So that night 614 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: we're at a party together and I walked up to 615 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: him and I said, Governor, I have to ask you 616 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 2: a question. Do you think maybe as you try that 617 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 2: toning thing? He grabs onto my bicep and he goes, first, 618 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: you need something to which it's just it's just so him. 619 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: He's so great. 620 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah he was. I was at one of these 621 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 5: openings for playing Hollywood. I guess he was co owner 622 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: of or something. And because. 623 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 6: He's the kind of guy who you know, he's heard 624 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: a joke and he tries to repeat it and he 625 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 6: doesn't really have the delivery. But this one I remember, 626 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 6: he goes, you know, my wife, she just had some 627 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 6: plastic surgery. 628 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I cut up her credit cards. Yeah, you know, 629 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 7: black belted shopping. She has black belted shopping. 630 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 6: I got to tell you, my friend Brad Garrett open 631 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 6: up for Frank Sinatra once or twice. 632 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 5: And I know Tom Dreesen does. 633 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 6: It a lot or did it a lot, but Brad 634 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 6: said he was doing it. And at the end, uh, 635 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: he said that they would tug on the cable to 636 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 6: let you know when Frank is ready to come on, 637 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 6: you know, the Mike cable. And so he said that. 638 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: As he was wrapping up his act, he said, folks, 639 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 6: stick around, there's more. Come, there's more. Act to come, 640 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 6: you know, and he gets off stage as a joke 641 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 6: and the guy that you know, Frank's guy goes, what 642 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: do you mean this more show to come? 643 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 5: They came here to see Frank, not you. You know, 644 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: he didn't realize it was a joke, right right, and 645 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: then he would go off stage. 646 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 6: And and uh and Frank's got you know, he didn't 647 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: get it. 648 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: That was probably Jilly Jilli was the right hand guy 649 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: with the that's right. 650 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the tougher. He was a cool guy though. 651 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: But doesn't doesn't Brad have a place up in Vegas 652 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: in one of the hotels Jim Jim. 653 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got a little comedy club up there. It's 654 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 5: really good. Have been there, I've worked at. It's really 655 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 5: probably the nicest comedy club I've ever seen. 656 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 2: Oh cool because we've set up. 657 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking to go in there. A friend of 658 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: mine knows him well. I've been planning to go in 659 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: and see him. I think MGM Hotel. 660 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's really nice. Tom Jason though. 661 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 6: Tom Reson is a friend of mine. 662 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: I've known him forever and I did I did a 663 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 5: show with him once and we. 664 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: Talked all about his opening for Frank and all the 665 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 6: stories about Frank Sinatcha. I'm sure you've got tons of 666 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 6: them too, But it was really interesting and so many people. 667 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: Viewed that show. 668 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 6: They were so interested in it, and he thanks me 669 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: to this day, you know, for putting that out there. 670 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Do you have a dream guest? Do you still have 671 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Nike with? Oh, other than Skip and Eye, that sounds 672 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: like a comedy team. 673 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: And who you still like to get on there with you? 674 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 6: Well, I'd like to get Steve Martin, but I wanted 675 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 6: to get Carl Reiner as was friends with him, and 676 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 6: mel Brooks would have been great. 677 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: But these guys are I think a little past the 678 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: the heike. 679 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but there's you know, there's a lot of 680 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 6: I throw on a wide net there, Paul, you know, 681 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 6: because I'm not afraid to ask people, from Taylor Swift 682 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 6: to Oprah, you know, I just throw it out there. 683 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 6: I guess Taylor Swift would be good since she's so popular. Now, 684 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 6: really you think, I mean, I don't know if I 685 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 6: could connect with her on anything. 686 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: I think you fly something. I'm your latest hike with 687 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Nick Aferman. I thought it was great, but one of 688 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: one of the things that stood out for me. Really 689 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: made me laugh is when you asked where he was from, 690 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: when he said Minooka, Illinois, and you said, even the 691 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: people who live there haven't heard of it. 692 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: About Jack Black. We had Jack Black on. Yeah you've 693 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: gotten interrupted by all those people. 694 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we couldn't even Here's what I learned 695 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 6: is don't do these hikes with the big celebrities on 696 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: a weekend because that's when. 697 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 5: All the people are out there hiking. 698 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 6: So I typically go on a weekday, like around nine o'clock, 699 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 6: and it's before many people are out there, you know. 700 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 6: And I used to I used to live in the Palisades, 701 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 6: Skip and I lived near Temescal Canyon and it's one 702 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 6: of my favorite canyons out there. 703 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: And I was on that show Weeds at the time, 704 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 5: and I. 705 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 6: Would bring my script with me early in the morning 706 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: to learn my lines while I was kind of hiking 707 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: up the canyon there and the sun was just coming 708 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 6: out right, and so it would be interesting because one 709 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 6: time I went up there, I hiked, I got thirty 710 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 6: minutes up and I heard this deep growl and I 711 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 6: knew it wasn't a dog or anything, and I knew 712 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 6: it was a mountain lion. I could feel it in 713 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: my chest and I scurried up the hill. 714 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: I came back like. 715 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 6: Two hours later, and you know, everybody's hiking around and 716 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 6: I felt safe. But the next day, I swear to you, 717 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 6: they caught a two hundred pound mountain lion right there 718 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 6: in sunset and tamescal and I know that was the one. 719 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 5: It had to be the one. 720 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: Oh man, are you guys going to reboot that weeds? 721 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 5: Weeds? Weeds? 722 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 6: I hear tell of that, but I don't I'll believe 723 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: what I see it. I don't know how they would 724 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 6: do it since weed is legal now, you know, it'd 725 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 6: have to kind of really take a big turn. 726 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 5: Ye. 727 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: That's right. 728 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: So how about your stuff as being a visual artist, 729 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: because I know you were talking to eighty about, you know, 730 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: what you do with the caricatures. Maybe you could explain 731 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: that for a secondents, Do you have a book out 732 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: now too? 733 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: Right? 734 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wrote a book about a year ago. 735 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 6: It's a collection of my caricature paintings of celebrities and 736 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 6: a lot of them are my friends. And then there's 737 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 6: an anecdote on the opposite page about how I know 738 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 6: them or an experience we had together, and if I 739 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 6: don't know them, it's just musing. 740 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: About, you know whatever. And it was a lot of fun. 741 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 6: Writing it, and people really like it a lot funny, 742 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 6: you know, Skip, I was going to I brought I 743 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 6: usually bring a book with me to a club and 744 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 6: just kind of show it and they'll put up on 745 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 6: a screen or something. And I forgot my book last week. 746 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 6: I was going somewhere, so I called Barnes and Noble 747 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 6: in that city. I said, do you have a book 748 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 6: called I Exaggerate by Kevin Neelan And she goes, hang 749 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: on a second. I mean, I'm sorry, who is it by? 750 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 6: I said, Kevin Kneeling. She said, let me go check 751 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 6: I Exaggerated right. 752 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: He go yeah. 753 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 6: So she goes back two minutes later she goes, yeah, 754 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 6: we do have the book, and shall I hold it 755 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 6: here by the cash register? I said, yeah, please do that. 756 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 6: She said, who should I hold it for? I said, 757 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 6: Kevin Kneeling. But anyway, you know, Skip, I used this 758 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 6: doodle all my life. I would just but there's always 759 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 6: like quick little doodles or really kind of rough caricatures 760 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 6: of people, and I never really fully committed to it. 761 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 6: And then when Instagram came along, I saw some really 762 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 6: good illustrators, real good character artists, and I thought, wow, 763 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 6: that's really good. 764 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: They're really good. 765 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 6: And I used to have two pictures in my bedroom 766 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 6: hanging up, two really great caricatures of my parents, and 767 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 6: they're framed, and every night I would lie down and 768 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 6: look at those and kind of subconsciously study how the 769 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 6: artist went about doing it, what he exaggerated. And I 770 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 6: think that was probably my greatest lesson, because I've never 771 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 6: really taken any real lessons on how to draw, and 772 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 6: it's kind of doing characters have really in my life 773 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 6: because wherever I go now, I look at people and 774 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 6: I see their outstanding character traits. It's like going through 775 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 6: a funhouse with all the mirrors, so I could never 776 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 6: see anybody normally anymore. 777 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: Do you see it as a bit of an escape 778 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: for you, Kevin? 779 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 5: Definitely, definitely. When I'm drawing. I don't know if it's 780 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 5: like when you're writing a song or something, but I 781 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 5: just I forget to have lunch. I forget. And I 782 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 5: was going through a period of claustrophobia for a while. 783 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 6: It's kind of an anxiety claustrophobia, and I couldn't be 784 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 6: in a room where I knew I couldn't get out, 785 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 6: or I felt like maybe I couldn't get out, and 786 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 6: I would sometimes and I would think, oh my god, 787 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 6: my career is over. You know, I can't get on 788 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 6: an airplane. But for some reason, I could fly. I 789 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 6: could be in an airplane, but if it got stuck 790 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 6: on the tarmac, I would really start to get anxious 791 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 6: and get that feeling of clustrophobia. But if I took 792 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 6: out a sketch pad, which I always kept with me 793 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 6: and a pencil, it would totally take me out of 794 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 6: that and I would just escape into whatever it was 795 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 6: I was drawing. 796 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, good, definitely fascinating work. I used to hang 797 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: out with. 798 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, Stella and Warhol did a few on me, 799 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: but I'd get to go down and hang with them 800 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: when they were, you know, creating, and it's just a 801 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: fascinating process to watch, especially the modern painters. You know, 802 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: you'd sit there and they'd see all kinds of colors 803 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: and they'd be throwing this and doing that. I saw 804 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: it so much, I said, I think it was Stella. 805 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: I said, how the hell do you know when you're finished? 806 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: But it was fascinating watching those guys create, you know, 807 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: and then buying the stuff back in the sixties when 808 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: it was cheap as opposed to later on. 809 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: Do you have any paintings that you bought that you 810 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 5: really are Oh? 811 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: Had I had a whole collection, you know Stella Dacooning 812 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: and I had. I had a whole collection. I built 813 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: a house around it when I lived in Carmel with 814 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: my wife then May she Rest in peace, and we 815 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: had forty foot ceilings and we bought and bought and bought. 816 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 2: Skip. 817 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: I think you got a taste of it near the end. 818 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: I think it turned Steve on Steve Whinn when he 819 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: started buying. But when I got divorced, I gave her 820 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: everything and said goodbye to it all. And she deserved it, 821 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: you know. She was, you know, very involved in it 822 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: with me, but I gave it all to her. But 823 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: we had major, major pieces that we started selling for 824 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: the years. 825 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin showed me this work. It was on his phone. 826 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm telling you this is not like a hobby thing, Paul. 827 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 2: You should see these. These are spectacular. I mean I 828 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: couldn't get over these caricatures because when I first heard 829 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: that he was doing them, I thought, well, it's a 830 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: little thing he's doing on the side wherever going around. 831 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: They're great. 832 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean they're really great. 833 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: Do you offend anybody seen them? 834 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: Sure? 835 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, go for it. 836 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: The truth, the truth. 837 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 6: You know a lot of times people ask me, have 838 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 6: these people seen their caricatures? 839 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 5: At that point, they hadn't seen them. 840 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 6: And I never knew that they had seen him because 841 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 6: I didn't have him in a book. 842 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 5: But then when I put him in a book, and 843 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: you know, I had to go out and promote the book. 844 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 6: So I would take a few of the paintings with me, 845 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 6: but out of courtesy, I would ask these people, do 846 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 6: you mind if I use your if you're painting to 847 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 6: to help sell my book? And you know, Jim Carrey 848 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: was fine with it, Steve Martin was fine with it, 849 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 6: and I uh, I sent Christopher Walkins to his agent 850 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 6: and he hated. 851 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 5: Christopher Walkin hated it so badly. 852 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 6: He goes under those circumstances, could you use this to 853 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 6: promote your book? 854 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 5: But it's in the book? 855 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: So is that the one that makes you laugh the most? 856 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my favorite, one of my favorite one. But 857 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 6: you know you're speaking of painting. 858 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: Skip. 859 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 6: I went to Lakhma in New York a couple of 860 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 6: years ago, and they had Starry Night by Vincent and. 861 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 5: Everybody was crowded around it, and I. 862 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 6: Took my cell phone out and I went up next 863 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 6: to this the middle of the group, next to a 864 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 6: couple of people. 865 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 5: I said, is this a famous painting here? And yeah? 866 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 5: I go and what is it called? And the woman 867 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 5: was so so offriended next to me. 868 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 6: She goes, it's starry It's Starry Night by this Ben go, 869 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 6: that's like not knowing who you know? The Mona Lisa 870 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 6: is And I said, okay, and how much is it? 871 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 6: How much are they selling it for? She goes, it's 872 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 6: not for sale. I said, well why is it? What 873 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 6: do you think it would be worth? It would be millions. 874 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 6: I said, is that because the frame? Because I don't 875 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 6: think the painting is that good? Maybe the frame alone. 876 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 5: To be that much? Did a child paint it? Is 877 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: it like a finger painting? 878 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 6: She was so incensed she just huffed off and she 879 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 6: walked and I videotaped the whole thing. 880 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: Wonder why these sickos that want to go and throw 881 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: a suit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, throw things at the Mona 882 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: Lisa where it's like behind such an incredibly impenetrable piece 883 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: of glass that you can never impact it anyway. But 884 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 2: why they choose to do that, it's just bizarre. 885 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 6: Well why they choose to do it is because it 886 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 6: draws attention to their cause, because you know, had they 887 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 6: not done that, they wouldn't have gotten the attention. And uh, 888 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 6: I just feel bad for the makers of the suit 889 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 6: because that gives them a bad wrap. 890 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: We don't like the soup. 891 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 5: We don't like. 892 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: We don't like the soup. 893 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 6: I read a book on leonardoo da Vinci, which my 894 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 6: son kind of laughs at because it took me like 895 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 6: a year and a half to read it, big book, 896 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 6: And I took me so and to read it because 897 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 6: I was fascinated by his life and it's all everything 898 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 6: about him and his paintings in his process. And do 899 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 6: you know that the Mona Lisa took him eight years 900 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 6: to paint and he would just. 901 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 5: Carried around in his wagon. 902 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 6: When he moved to Milan, he would have it with him, 903 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 6: and then he went to Rome and he just would 904 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 6: just keep touching it up and just keep painting it. 905 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 6: So I don't even know if it's finished to this day. 906 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: That's funny. So just to pivot for one second. You 907 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: were talking about Tom Greeson, and Tom Dreeson's a very 908 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: avid golfers, you know, played all he could and kept 909 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 2: by Paul. Kevin and I played a lot of golf 910 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: together over the years. But now that we're both banged up, 911 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: maybe not so much. But need to get I need 912 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 2: to get him back on the golf course. That's where 913 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: you have a lot of fun together. 914 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 5: Golf. 915 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: I used to and then I uh, I was a caddie. 916 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because of that for many years in Canada, 917 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: and then I golfed and pucked around, played a lot 918 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: of tennis. But you know, when you're writing, well, you know, 919 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: just so much time in the day. And then I 920 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: had a young child, he's eighteen now, and my time 921 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: was very special. 922 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't you know. 923 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: I got as frustrated as you all do. But I 924 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: had the benefit of you know, Steve Winn built his 925 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: place in Las Vegas. Steve and no, the answer is 926 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: a big no. I'm pickleballing and I'm playing tennis now. 927 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, pickle balls become so popular. 928 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 6: My friends started playing that about fifteen years ago, and 929 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 6: I shook my head thinking this guy's given up. He 930 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 6: has given up. He's playing like, well, he's gonna play 931 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 6: shuffle board later. But yeah, the thing with golf is 932 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 6: I love it. I'm horrible at it. But you know, 933 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 6: when I go golfing, I go because I want to golf. 934 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 6: But then when I'm golfing after nine holes, I think 935 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 6: I should be home doing something else, you know, I 936 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 6: should be writing or whatever. 937 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 5: You know, it's never it's never like I'm a more 938 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: of a nine hole guy. 939 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: But you know what the truth is, We're all driven 940 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: in our own way. You know, thinking of Paul, Paul's 941 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: in his eighth decade of performing and he's leaving to 942 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: go out on tour again. It's just it's so inspirational 943 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: and incredible to just keep going. You know, you look 944 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: at people that you know sort of call it a 945 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: day early and say, well, you know, I had a 946 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: great career, see you later. And I love I love 947 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 2: the fact that Paul is still filling up these venues 948 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 2: and it's just phenomenal that he gets to do that. 949 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: So, hey, you stand still, they throw dirt on you. 950 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: So as long as you can do it, you love 951 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: a passion, you do it. You know you don't look 952 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: at life that way. 953 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, how lucky are we that we have 954 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 6: this passion where we don't want to retire? 955 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 5: You know, we just love what we do. 956 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 6: I mean, if I retired, I still be doing what 957 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 6: I really it's just not for money. So you have 958 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 6: an eighteen year old son, Paul, I have a seventeen 959 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 6: year old son, and I know what you mean. 960 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 5: You want to be home with them as much as 961 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 5: possible before they go off to college or whatever. 962 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 6: I'm writing a bucket list now of all the things 963 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 6: I haven't donn my son yet that I want to 964 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 6: do because he's going to be leaving the nest pretty soon. 965 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 6: I mean, it's everything I go into it, you know, 966 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 6: a salmon, a salmon fishing trip in Alaska, going camp 967 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 6: and white water rafting, going here and going there. 968 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 5: And I don't think I'm going to be able to 969 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 5: get them all in, you. 970 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 2: Know, Southern kep. 971 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: Like I got five girls when they hit that eighteen mark. 972 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: And when they did, boy do they go out and 973 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: get it. They just leave you. You know, they love you, 974 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: but they leave you. Look they look back at your 975 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: times like you're an alien. So I'm putting in a 976 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: lot of years with him. I'm committed to that, and 977 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: I do everything at home in my studio. And somebody 978 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: recently said kids are overrated. Maybe, but I'm having a 979 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: great time with him, great time with him. 980 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you need time. 981 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 5: You got to make the time sometimes. 982 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of time, weren't you getting involved in spending some 983 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 2: time with politics and Pacific Palisades? You were like running 984 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 2: for the city council. 985 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: I never ran for anything. 986 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 6: They asked me if I would be the honorary Mayor 987 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 6: of the Palace, and I said, what is that involved? 988 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 6: They said, all you have to do is ride in 989 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 6: the Fourth of July parade and then h Christmas. You 990 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 6: just ride on the fire truck with Santa Claus. And 991 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 6: so my son was younger at the time. I thought, yeah, 992 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 6: that'd be kind of cool. He'd like to ride in 993 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 6: a parade. So I said, that's all I have to do. 994 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 6: That's fine. So immediately after I became honorary mayor, I'm 995 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 6: getting all these calls, Hey, man, they're using cuesticide on 996 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 6: the side of our Well, could you do something about that? 997 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 6: You know there there's a round up. Can you do 998 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 6: something about Hey? Can you throw the first ball and 999 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 6: at the polo match. You know, can you judge your 1000 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 6: beauty cuts. I'm just here for the ride. I just 1001 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 6: want to be on the ride in the parade. But 1002 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 6: it was great, you know, do it for two years 1003 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 6: and then I handed it off to Bully Crystal and 1004 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 6: then he took it really there. 1005 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: Speaking of mayor's I was living in Carmel, so that's 1006 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood country. 1007 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: So we're buddy. 1008 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: Things were starting to fray a little in Carmel and 1009 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: a run for Meyrit Paul I said, okay, I'll support you. 1010 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: So we take him down to the city hall. You know, 1011 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 1: he start doing his speeches. Nobody could hear him because 1012 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: he talks so softly. So I said, hey, Clint, I 1013 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 1: got an idea. I'll pay for it. You know, I'm 1014 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: a big sound nut, and I flew in a sound system. 1015 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: I think they trucked it down from San Francisco, so 1016 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: that when we got him on the steps of the 1017 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: city Hall and he had to give his speech, everybody 1018 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: could finally hear him because he had no idea what 1019 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: he was saying was running. But he was a cool 1020 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: He was a cool guy. He was a great mayor too. 1021 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: He put her all back together up there. 1022 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did. 1023 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: He did. Was he like ninety and working in nineties 1024 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: and he's doing new films, you know, pursing directly. 1025 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1026 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: And he doesn't want to hear about age either man. 1027 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: He says, keep the keeping the old man out. He 1028 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 1: got nothing to do with anything. 1029 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1030 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: I think he because close to the family and has daughter. 1031 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: I think it went to Africa for this current film. 1032 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: I think that's where he was and he's backing. 1033 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 6: Friend of mine is a huge Clint Eastwood fan, kind 1034 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 6: of looks like him a little bit. And he married 1035 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 6: his daughter and he loves Clint Eastwood, and he married 1036 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 6: his daughter I think to be close to Clint Eastwood. 1037 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 6: And the marriage Ollie lasted six months and Clint said 1038 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 6: to him, he said, he didn't have to marry my 1039 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 6: daughter to go golfer with me. 1040 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 5: I would have golfed with you. 1041 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's married. 1042 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: Well now she's really involved and they're they're putting up 1043 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: a shelter because she's into animals and save and all that. 1044 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: We've been helping and contributing. But she's put together a 1045 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 1: real nice complex for saving animals. She's a good girl 1046 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: and she's married well. 1047 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 6: That's goods. I know, like Doris Day up and Carmel 1048 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 6: used to love animals. 1049 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: Who's a neighbor up there? 1050 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 5: That's beautiful up there. 1051 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: I was just there a couple of weeks ago talking 1052 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: about when things wind up or wrap up? Do you 1053 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: think Saturday Night Live we were together at the fortieth anniversary. 1054 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: Now the next year is going to be the fiftieth anniversary. 1055 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: It's hard the fathom that show that originally got in 1056 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: order for maybe like four episodes, it's going on for 1057 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 2: fifty years. You think Lauren will call it a day 1058 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: or do you think he'll just keep going? 1059 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 6: Well, you know, the last time he called it a day, 1060 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 6: the show almost ended because it was out out of 1061 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 6: his control, and so he came back and it took 1062 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 6: a year or two for to kind of get back 1063 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 6: in good graces again with the audience. 1064 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 5: So I think it's going to be a difficult decision 1065 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 5: for him to make. I saw him about a year going. 1066 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 5: He look great, looks fine. So I don't. 1067 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 6: Know that just because something is a round number, I 1068 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 6: don't think people should call it a day unless that 1069 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 6: round number is one hundred and it's his round number. 1070 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: Well, this has been a blast. Man, Have you come 1071 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: on and just just just so multi talented, you know, 1072 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: making people laugh and no, you're right, you're right, right, Hey, Heyki, 1073 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 2: when you're right, you're right, you got it, nailed it, Paul, Yeah, 1074 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: what do you think we Kevin and I drag you 1075 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: out on the golf course. We make you play golf 1076 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 2: with us. 1077 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: Yell, drive there you go. I want to see my caricature. 1078 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. 1079 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 2: Hey, I have to whip one up, one up. 1080 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 5: I stopped doing characters with my friends too risky. 1081 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I won't be your friend. 1082 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: I want to see'd be my next seat. 1083 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 6: I'm sure you got a couple of characters at some 1084 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 6: of those restaurants. 1085 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 5: Oh boy, the wall. 1086 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got Nunzie, Johnny Lips. There were some funny people. 1087 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: And with Sinatra, I'll tell you, I don't know how 1088 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: I got out of all that clean, but there were 1089 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: some characters, real characters. 1090 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm sure man, donle oh, I. 1091 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: Love don you know we used to. He used to 1092 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: when he came to town. We were all working Vegas 1093 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,959 Speaker 1: back in the sixties. He'd be working the lounges, which 1094 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: were back then as important as the clubrooms themselves. But 1095 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: he'd take on Frank and he put down every him 1096 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: and Shaky Green would tear everybody apart. And you know, 1097 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 1: he was just kind of new to all of us, 1098 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: but we all knew he was a sweet guy. But 1099 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: he tore Frank apart one night to get back to 1100 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: got back to Frank one night and after the show 1101 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: one of the sands he was at the Sahara. He said, okay, 1102 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: we're going over to the Sahara to see Rickles. So 1103 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: I think it was about eight of us, and his 1104 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: right hand man was Jilly. So we sit down ringside 1105 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: in these lounges which only held about two hundred people, 1106 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: and Don was going on at midnight. We're sitting ringside 1107 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: and Frank said to Jilly, okay, Jilly, go get the papers. 1108 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: He went out to the news step he brought back 1109 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: eight la times. We're all sitting there and franksis put 1110 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: him under the table. So he put him under the 1111 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: table and then Don still had that torriodor or whatever 1112 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: that instrumentally had that brought him on, and he came 1113 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: on and Frank say, okay, now we all picked up 1114 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: the papers, opened him up, and we started reading them 1115 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: while he was doing his accenting ringside, Hey, jolly was 1116 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: the want of the Dodgers playing no more. I don't 1117 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: know if we never put the damn papers down. Well, 1118 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: Don sweated, as you know, but man, it was the 1119 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: funniest thing. We wouldn't put those fucking papers down. 1120 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: He was going nuts. 1121 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: But that's what it was back then, you know, it was. 1122 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: It was close. It was the all of them mafia 1123 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: guys you worked for. Everybody knew who you worked for, 1124 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: and everybody would get together and just the town was 1125 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: way different than it is today, much much different, until 1126 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: Hughes came in and then Steve Wynn came in and 1127 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: it became very very corporate. 1128 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: Brickles was loved. 1129 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: He was a sweetheart. He was really a very very 1130 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: warm guy off stage, he was a good guy. 1131 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1132 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 5: I had a chance to meet him. 1133 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 6: About a year or so before he died at a 1134 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 6: party in the backyard. We were sent at the same 1135 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 6: table and he was so curious about the younger comics now, 1136 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 6: and I think he was so confused that what was 1137 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 6: funny anymore, you know, And he wanted to know about 1138 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 6: the comics and who's this guy? What does he do 1139 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 6: you know it was interesting to see that that older 1140 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 6: generation trying to kind of understand the newer what makes people. 1141 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: And not understand because it's a huge when I look 1142 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: at the landscape today and what it was back then. 1143 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: But you know, times change and everything is fitting to 1144 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: the time. But no one would ever think it would 1145 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: get to where it is today. I mean a lot 1146 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: of us musicians look at a lot of the music 1147 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: that's out there go what's going on here? But you know, 1148 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: he got to roll with it and understand it and 1149 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: not be too judgmental. 1150 00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. 1151 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 6: I don't think Rickles could have an act now that 1152 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 6: people would you know, approve. 1153 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: Him definitely, not that they'd be on him within his 1154 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 1: first ten minutes. 1155 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1156 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 6: I think Brad Garrett is probably the closest to that 1157 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 6: now and he kind of gets oh yeah, he's very Uh. 1158 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 5: He reminds me of Don Rickles a lot. 1159 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know who a lot of that was lifted 1160 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: from was a guy named Jackie Leonard. 1161 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: Do you remember that name? 1162 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 5: Oh? 1163 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well Don, it was down and Jackie Leonard and 1164 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: Jackie was doing the same kind of stuff that Don 1165 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: was doing. Don just took it do another. 1166 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 6: When I first started out Paul I was opening up 1167 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 6: for Jackie Vernon. 1168 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: Oh sure, big Jackie, Jackie, you're open for another comment 1169 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: that's wild. 1170 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, that's how it works. 1171 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 6: And he would do that slide show thing, you know, 1172 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 6: there was a make believe slideshow and every day we 1173 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 6: were like in Houston. I remember, he would call me. 1174 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 6: He goes, come on, let's go. We'll go to a pharmacy. 1175 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,760 Speaker 6: He loved going to pharmacies and he get a shopping 1176 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 6: cart at the pharmacy. And he would take anything by 1177 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 6: anything if it came with something free, you know, like 1178 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 6: if cologne comes with an. 1179 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 2: Umbrella, I'll get that. 1180 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 5: I'll get that. 1181 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know when I started, you know, back in 1182 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: the fifties and we started doing the circuit, you know, 1183 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: it was Copa, it was Vegas Fountain Blue. We had 1184 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: to have a comic on the show, I mean whatever, 1185 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: and whoever wanted it. So I went through everybody, I mean, 1186 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: Joan River's name and then Jackie Mason. They threw that 1187 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,240 Speaker 1: out of me. I said sure, And I was opening 1188 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: at the Copa and I was there during prom time, 1189 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 1: which is like three shows a night, and they're lined 1190 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: up around fifth avenue these kids. So on opening night, 1191 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: Jackie and I are, you know, getting ready to our 1192 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: opening show, and we'd do it. It's a huge hit, 1193 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: a rave reviews everything else, and Jackie was what he 1194 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 1: turned out to be, you know, very aggressive and very 1195 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: right on it. And the next night he decides to 1196 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: walk through the front door of the Copa with the kids. Now, 1197 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: normally not many people remember the Copa. It was a 1198 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: side entrance that you'd go up into a hotel, dress 1199 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: in a hotel and come down into. 1200 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 2: The club because there was no dressing rooms. 1201 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: So Jackie decides to walk in the front door with 1202 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: at least a thousand kids, and he's walking past them, 1203 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's all puffed up because he was a 1204 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: hit the night before, and mister Podell, Jules Podell, who 1205 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: was the guy for the mob, sat at the chair 1206 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 1: at the entrance in the lobby watching everything. So Jackie 1207 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: walks in, he's there with the kids, and he walks 1208 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: by Podell who's sitting there. He says, hey, mister Podell, 1209 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: good to see you. Potel looked at and said, get 1210 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: back in fucking line. 1211 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 2: Kids. 1212 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: He didn't know who the hell Jackie was from whatever, 1213 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: but I'll never forget that. Jackie and I always used 1214 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: to laughter that get back and fucking wank. But the 1215 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: Copa was the place, you know, it was like a basement. 1216 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 2: It wasn't anything like we see today. 1217 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: But all the comics started to see, all of them. 1218 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 6: It seemed like it was a very accepted practice to 1219 00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 6: work with the mafia. 1220 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: Back choice. 1221 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: You had your choice, we mean, except yeah, anywhere we worked, 1222 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: whether you had a record deal, anything in show business, 1223 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: right down to getting cement in New York, you worked 1224 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: for the guys. When I first met Sinatra, you know, 1225 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: it was always write me a song, Write me a song. 1226 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: But I was intimidated, you know me. I was on 1227 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: Puppy Love and all that crap. And we were at 1228 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: the Fountain Blue in the late sixties working for the boys, 1229 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: and it was a lot more glamorous at that club. 1230 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: But Frank was he was in town doing a movie, 1231 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: and I was singing in the Lauren Room, and he 1232 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: was in town doing a film Lady in Cement, which 1233 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: with the people we worked for, could have been a documentary, 1234 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: you know. So we constantly, we constantly were working between 1235 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: those three places, and the boys would show up, I 1236 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: mean after my show, I'd sit with Mari Lansky and 1237 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: his wife. I'd finished the show to go down to 1238 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: the barn. I'm sitting with Mari Lansky and loved it. 1239 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 2: You know, it was a very. 1240 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: Gracious to me. But it was always the boys. You 1241 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: worked for them, that was it, no choice. 1242 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 5: How about Joey Gallow Do you ever mean. 1243 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 2: That the Gallows? I met him in New York once. 1244 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 5: Do you ever read You ever read Johnny Carson's lawyers. 1245 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 2: Pushkin Henry Bushkin? Yeah, I knew Henry. 1246 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 5: He wrote a book about Johnny. 1247 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: No, it was you know, there was some friction there 1248 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: at the end. But if Henry was good, he was 1249 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: his lawyer, and I knew them very well. We were 1250 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 1: all in the same office and he did very very well. 1251 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: By by by Johnny. I think they're they're big turning point. 1252 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: They bought a TV station in Las Vegas, and I 1253 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: think it was Channel five. But you know when they 1254 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: first bought it, you know, back when TV was in 1255 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: its infancy stage in a sense, when when Howard Hughes 1256 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: took over Las Vegas and we were all working there, Uh, 1257 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: the only channel we'd watch after the show was this 1258 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: Channel five that was the only channel estayed on late. 1259 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: We'd watch movies and hang and so when Hughes took over, 1260 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: we never knew when he was in town. Nobody knew 1261 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: it'd sneak in. It's upstairs, downstairs. So one night we 1262 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: all go back and we're watching television and they started 1263 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: playing this film on Channel five, the one that Carson 1264 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: later bought years later, and it was ice Station Zebra, 1265 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: remember that with the English actor. We watched it and 1266 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: about ten minutes later the film couts back on again. 1267 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: And then the next day, you know, we finished kibbitzing 1268 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: in the casino and drinking, we go back and the 1269 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: goddamn films on again, Ice Station Zebra. Timus later it's 1270 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: on again. So we all said, going on, justinadra all 1271 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: of it. One of the ice pas Zebra, and we 1272 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: started checking on it. When Howard Hughes came to town, 1273 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: and every time he was there and he were sitting 1274 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: up in his room, that was his favorite movie. And 1275 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: he bought the channel and he called the kid that 1276 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: was on doing it and say play it. I get 1277 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: play it again my stations. That's how we knew he 1278 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: was in town. And then Johnny later bought the station. 1279 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1280 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a character, Howard. 1281 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 6: I just remember all the stories about him just being 1282 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 6: you know, was held up in his room with the 1283 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 6: long aisles. 1284 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 5: And the long well. 1285 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 2: I knew him. 1286 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: I used to see him walking at the Beverly Hills 1287 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: Hotel and my friend Ben Silverstein who owned it. You know, 1288 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: they have course catered to him and I was in 1289 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: the bungalow next to them, and you know, you'd see 1290 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: him at night and he went back door the restaurants. 1291 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: But Ben's bitch all the time was his hues would 1292 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: wake him up, like it three or four in the morning, 1293 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: say I want a banana cream pie in one hour, 1294 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: and they'd have to go out and get him a 1295 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: banana creep pie. 1296 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 2: So, Kevin, just just one last question. So you've been 1297 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 2: on TV seemingly NonStop for over thirty five years, which 1298 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: is extraordinary, and yet you're still incredibly active on the 1299 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 2: stand up circuit. So I'm just curious, how does that 1300 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 2: continue to fulfill you doing stand up when you've had 1301 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 2: this extraordinary career on television. What is it that is 1302 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 2: that that keeps you going? I know what keeps you 1303 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 2: going doing television series whatever, But what you know, why 1304 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 2: does that, why does that motivation? 1305 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 6: Well, stand up comedy was my first love. It's all 1306 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 6: I ever really wanted to do. And the acting is 1307 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 6: kind of secondary that came that came along, and you know, 1308 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 6: I was open to it, but I never stopped doing 1309 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 6: stand up. I always love doing that. So when I 1310 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 6: continue to do that, and if I don't do it, 1311 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 6: and I'm sure that, like Paul was saying, you feel like, 1312 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 6: you know, you're really you're. 1313 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: Missing, out of touch, out of touch, not fulfilling yourself. 1314 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: The passion is not being fulfilled. Very true, dark hole 1315 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: between the artists and the audience, even you know, with music, 1316 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: even comedy, which is your love. When you're with them 1317 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: and they're giving you all that love back, it's there's 1318 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: nothing like a skip. 1319 00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 2: So that's why, that's why when comedians that performing readibly 1320 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 2: large venues, you see them just in a little comedy club, 1321 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 2: you know, trying out stuff and whatever. It's just to 1322 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 2: keep it going all the time, stay fresh, right. 1323 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1324 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 6: And there's a lot of a lot of singers, for example, 1325 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 6: write songs about being on the road, and as much 1326 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 6: as they say they hate it, it's their life and 1327 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 6: they're used to it. 1328 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 5: And I think that is part. 1329 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 6: Of the passion that comes with it, and being with 1330 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 6: all the guys you know, and the girls and traveling, 1331 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 6: and it's a lifestyle for sure, and when you stop 1332 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 6: doing it, you really feel. 1333 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: The only thing you have to be careful back then 1334 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: was the messing around when you finish the show and 1335 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: got in trouble. So my rule was do the show 1336 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: and go back to your. 1337 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 2: Room, hell alone. 1338 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: Exactly the temptations out there. You know, as a teenager 1339 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: when I started, they weren't reporting all that stuff. 1340 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: It was insane. 1341 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: It was insane when you go from a little town 1342 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: in Canada, you hang with the rat pack in Vegas. 1343 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, the show was the fun thing, but then 1344 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,919 Speaker 1: the real fun started after the show. So I tried 1345 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: to tell everybody that was up and coming, do your 1346 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: show and go back to your room. 1347 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Watch channel it's around. I love it when Paul tells 1348 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 2: me that when he was young, the girls used to 1349 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 2: throw their underwear up on the stage, and now they 1350 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: throw their canes. 1351 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: No, they throw support stocks of course. 1352 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 5: Talking let me ask you this, Paul, if you were. 1353 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 6: Your compression socks inside out where your feet can explode 1354 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 6: or else? 1355 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: Okay, close, I just don't wear shoes. I'm giving any 1356 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: one barefoot from now on. 1357 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 5: No. 1358 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: But you know, you start to realize, you know, I'm 1359 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: eighty two the people that you had at your audience 1360 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: last year. You know, we try to do account who's 1361 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: not here anymore? Let alone. I send my production manager 1362 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: out and say, okay, how many wheelchairs are here tonight? 1363 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Things have changed. 1364 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 6: Sometimes I go out on stage or i'm behind stage, 1365 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 6: I'm looking out the audience and I see all these 1366 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 6: old old people. Oh man, these people are so old, 1367 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 6: and I think, wait a minute, I'm older than they are. 1368 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 2: This has been a blast, Kevin. You're just such a 1369 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 2: super guy to do this, and we'll love being with you. 1370 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 2: And I can't wait for more hiking with Kevin. I 1371 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: think it's just the greatest. 1372 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 5: I just love it. I'm addicted to it. 1373 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm fit, Kevin. I'm fit. 1374 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, you are fit. 1375 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 2: You look I'm fit on my camera. 1376 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 5: I don't know what you're fit for, but. 1377 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 2: We'll find something. 1378 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll find out trail. 1379 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 2: It's downhill, Okay, we'll start at the bottom. Thanks keV, 1380 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: appreciate it, man. 1381 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 3: Thanks a million. 1382 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 5: All right, guys, thanks for having me. 1383 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: Our away with Paul Anka and Skip Bronson is a 1384 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 1385 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 2: The show's the executive producer is Jordan Runtogg, with supervising 1386 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 2: producer and editor Marcy Depina, who. 1387 01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Was engineered by Todd Carlin and Graham Gibson and mixed 1388 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and mastered by Doug bum. 1389 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 2: If you like what you heard, please subscribe and leave 1390 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 2: us a review. 1391 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: For more podcasts on iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1392 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite children