Speaker 1: This is Take twenty with Maddie and Kenzie Ziggler, an
Speaker 1: I Heart radio podcast. Oh my gosh, what is happening?
Speaker 1: This is scary but so exciting. We're definitely getting the
Speaker 1: giggles right now. We have a podcast, How Crazy Kenzie? Yes, Mannie,
Speaker 1: We're finally doing it. This is really exciting. I know,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've needed this for like a long time,
Speaker 1: just to you know, vent vent Let go talk about
Speaker 1: what we need to talk about. I feel like this
Speaker 1: has been such a long time coming. People have grown
Speaker 1: up watching me and Kenzie like on camera most of
Speaker 1: our lives, and I feel like now we really just
Speaker 1: want to like share a more personal, relatable side to
Speaker 1: us and show our weird selves. Yeah, this is like
Speaker 1: I know, I'm kind of worried. People are like, oh no,
Speaker 1: who are they? This is the real then I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they like us. Hopefully you stick around, Please stick around?
Speaker 1: Can we please talk about the episode name? Please? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Okay, we we've obviously grown up watching Live
Speaker 1: in Maddie the show on Disney Channel, and who hasn't
Speaker 1: though it's so good. It's such a good show. Shout
Speaker 1: out to dev Cameron no, but um, we what was
Speaker 1: the one of the lines in the show. Okay, So basically,
Speaker 1: if you've seen it, you know that the whole premise
Speaker 1: around the show is just just by chance, friends by choice. Um,
Speaker 1: and so we said it as a joke. We we
Speaker 1: literally are sisters by chance, friends by choice. But it's
Speaker 1: just like so funny that it's living Maddie. So that's
Speaker 1: why we named the episodes sisters by birth. That's by choice.
Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little backstory. And I feel
Speaker 1: like we were in the car, We're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what to name this podcast, Like we were going
Speaker 1: back and forth trying to figure it out, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, in my head, I was like,
Speaker 1: Kenzie choice, that has been a joke for this whole month.
Speaker 1: I know. And it's not probably not funny too literally
Speaker 1: anyone else but us we are. So I don't know
Speaker 1: why we find that so funny, but it's just because
Speaker 1: it's like from our childhood. We find it nostalgia. It's
Speaker 1: not that long ago. We're like still babies, but I
Speaker 1: feel like we had to do a little nod to
Speaker 1: that just because it's a cute memory. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: seriously are like we've It's like I said, it's been
Speaker 1: a long time coming with our friendship because you can explain.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a long long way back. Um, well,
Speaker 1: when we first started dancing together, Um, we actually hated
Speaker 1: each other just because don't. I wouldn't throw the word hate,
Speaker 1: I would say, justlike we'd we'd argue. No, okay, it
Speaker 1: was just we spent so much time together that it
Speaker 1: was just like we didn't have time to you know,
Speaker 1: be on our own and like actually develop as different people,
Speaker 1: like really like it was just the worst thing ever
Speaker 1: for sisters to do. Also, mind you, Kenzie and I
Speaker 1: are twenty months apart. If you didn't know that, that's
Speaker 1: extremely close. We're like, like you said, we didn't really
Speaker 1: have time to develop our own identity. We were very
Speaker 1: much just one and the same, which is honestly, like,
Speaker 1: looking back, I feel like we needed each other more
Speaker 1: than anything. Because friends come and go, your teammates come
Speaker 1: and go. Sisters stay forever, and that was the most
Speaker 1: important friendship to maintain. Um, And as we got older,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, we started hanging out more and
Speaker 1: doing things together, but it was still just like I know,
Speaker 1: I think I think it wasn't until we cut off
Speaker 1: working together because we both shared dance and I'm sure
Speaker 1: most of you know that we grew up. We grew
Speaker 1: up dancing together, competing with each other, but also a
Speaker 1: few times against each other, which is kind of toxic
Speaker 1: for a sister relationship because it's like we want to
Speaker 1: boost each other up, we want to bring each other
Speaker 1: confidence and like love, and that was like, nope, you're competing.
Speaker 1: You have to be better than one another, and it's
Speaker 1: just like not how it's supposed to be. We're family exactly.
Speaker 1: And so I think it was so important that once
Speaker 1: we actually branched off and did our own thing. You
Speaker 1: found singing and you still act, but like not as
Speaker 1: much as you it's your thing. I started acting more,
Speaker 1: Kenzie started singing more, and like then we stopped working together.
Speaker 1: And then we'd be like, oh my gosh, we like
Speaker 1: miss working together. So this is fun. Well this doesn't work.
Speaker 1: This is just this is literally us now, Like this
Speaker 1: is all we do is we just like sit and talk,
Speaker 1: I know, for hours. But I think when our friend
Speaker 1: Chip just to blossom blossomed was when you moved out,
Speaker 1: which is so I mean, like it sounds so horrible,
Speaker 1: Like every time I'm like, oh, yeah, Maddie and I
Speaker 1: are best friends now that she's gone, it's just like
Speaker 1: but that, like don't you want your sister with you?
Speaker 1: And of course I do, But now it's so fun that,
Speaker 1: like I can just drive over to your house and
Speaker 1: hang out with you. Also, I feel like this is
Speaker 1: a really fun podcast because as much as we are
Speaker 1: one and the same, we are so polar opposite, Like
Speaker 1: how would you describe how different we are? I this
Speaker 1: is actually so random. I always say this to people,
Speaker 1: like this is okay, this is really stupid. But you
Speaker 1: were like very dainty like jewelry, and I were very chunky.
Speaker 1: That's true, and I feel like that's a really good
Speaker 1: way to describe our style and totally I feel like
Speaker 1: our whole lives. I've been more timid in a way,
Speaker 1: and I'm like a people pleaser, which you are too,
Speaker 1: but like I feel I've always been like really worried
Speaker 1: to mess up or fault, Like I always am a
Speaker 1: rule followers actions. That's how and there's pros and cons
Speaker 1: to that. But also i feel like I'm very like
Speaker 1: light and whatever, and I feel like you are so
Speaker 1: like incredibly strong, and you speak your mind and which
Speaker 1: is always not good. Well, there's pros and cons to everything, right,
Speaker 1: but I feel like we could. I would love Kenside
Speaker 1: to take some of that from you, like I admire
Speaker 1: you so much for that. Thank you. Oh I wish
Speaker 1: I was a perfectionist like you and always had my
Speaker 1: room clean and spotless. I was just gonna say, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't keep my room clean for a
Speaker 1: day because I go through my closet throw everything around,
Speaker 1: and then I don't feel like cleaning it up. You guys,
Speaker 1: I will go to Kenzie's house and I will clean
Speaker 1: her room and I will walk downstairs for a couple
Speaker 1: of hours, or I'll leave and i'll come back the
Speaker 1: next day. It is trashed again, but you're not gross.
Speaker 1: You just leave your clothes everywhere. You're still it's like
Speaker 1: a clean, messy Yeah. You know, I think the one
Speaker 1: thing that we fight about, the only thing that we
Speaker 1: fight out. I can't remember the last thing we thought
Speaker 1: other than this, which I don't know how this is
Speaker 1: even possible that we steal each other's clothes and we
Speaker 1: don't even live together, Like she will leave something at
Speaker 1: my house and I will obviously wear it because it's here,
Speaker 1: so why not. And then she's like, on my live strip, Kenzie,
Speaker 1: take off my shirt. Kenzie, take off my shirt. So
Speaker 1: that's like the only thing we fight about. Really, I'm
Speaker 1: just glad that that's how we find about now. Honestly,
Speaker 1: we've never thought about real things. It's always just been
Speaker 1: like who gets what clothes, who gets like who uses
Speaker 1: the hairbrush first? Like it's very m honestly, you know
Speaker 1: what's so weird? I don't know why I just thought
Speaker 1: of this, but I feel like our dogs like are
Speaker 1: the same way. They fight over the same way. They
Speaker 1: fight way more than we do, but they fight over
Speaker 1: like like we'll give them two bones. They only they
Speaker 1: want to share the same bone. They're like, no, I
Speaker 1: want They don't want their own. They need to like
Speaker 1: have a competition to see you can get it first.
Speaker 1: Boots literally, Boots is my dog, by the way, and
Speaker 1: my dog's Ivy. My dogs like tiny and Boots is
Speaker 1: like a medium sized dog. But Boots is scared of Ivy.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know why. He's the
Speaker 1: weirdest dog. They're weird guys. We will talk probably a
Speaker 1: lot about our dogs and definitely like an annoying amount.
Speaker 1: So hopefully there's a lot of dog lovers here. You
Speaker 1: are welcome, You are very welcome this podcast. But it
Speaker 1: is true they're kind of like us because at the
Speaker 1: end of the night they're literally snuggling together. So I'm
Speaker 1: just like, how did it go from? Like wrestling? But
Speaker 1: that is like us because we would get in a
Speaker 1: fight when we were younger. We still kind of do
Speaker 1: this now, and then we'd go into our rooms, shut
Speaker 1: the door, slammed the door, and we'd just be whatever,
Speaker 1: being annoying for a second, and then one of us
Speaker 1: would go into the other one's room, like you would
Speaker 1: come in and be like, Maddie, do you want to
Speaker 1: go get ice cream? I'm like yeah, sure, and we
Speaker 1: just go like nothing happened, which is honestly the best way.
Speaker 1: Like if it was an actually serious, like an actual
Speaker 1: serious argument, we would work through it and talk about it.
Speaker 1: Several times where we've had arguments for days long where
Speaker 1: we don't talk to each other, and then it's like
Speaker 1: it hurts, it hurts, But it's also like do I
Speaker 1: say something like do I text her? Or like do
Speaker 1: I wait for her to text me? It's almost like dating.
Speaker 1: It's like who makes Like it's like, literally, should I
Speaker 1: wait until they respond? Oh? She responded, and like it
Speaker 1: took her thirty minutes. Was fun. I'm and it took
Speaker 1: like fifty minutes exactly. It's it's like that, but that's
Speaker 1: just how it is. Yeah. But also, like, deep down,
Speaker 1: I think we're so protective of each other and we
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt each other's feelings, and like in
Speaker 1: the moment maybe we were like we want to have
Speaker 1: the last word or whatever, but deep down we're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just wish we weren't fighting. And that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I'm like, sometimes you get the last word
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ow, like that really hurt. Because Maddie
Speaker 1: is so nice to every single person, so am I.
Speaker 1: But it's just like, if anyone messes with you, I
Speaker 1: will literally I will yell at them because I am
Speaker 1: so protective over you. But just like in a fight,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always the more aggressive person. And
Speaker 1: when Maddie just hits me with that, I was just like,
Speaker 1: You're like, that's my job. Literally, Yeah, I want you
Speaker 1: to tell me all the things that drive you crazy
Speaker 1: about me. Mm hmm. Okay, you know what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: This has been like top like top thing that drives
Speaker 1: me crazy about you. No, but like bring it on.
Speaker 1: Everyone will probably get it. Okay. Um, so when you're
Speaker 1: on your phone or doing something I don't know whatever,
Speaker 1: just when you're like focused on something, you block everything
Speaker 1: else out. Sometimes, like she'll be on her phone and
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Maddie, I need to get ready for this,
Speaker 1: like I need you to help me, and she will
Speaker 1: not respond for like maybe a minute, and then she'll
Speaker 1: go huh, it's an ongoing cycle. And then I just go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm over this, and then you get mad at me.
Speaker 1: I have a really hard time like staying present sometimes,
Speaker 1: but not in like a serious way. I just like
Speaker 1: really get in my own world and I zone out
Speaker 1: for a little bit, and I feel so bad because
Speaker 1: almost everyone says that about me, like friends not. I
Speaker 1: don't do that with like strangers, but if I'm comfortable
Speaker 1: enough with someone, I'll just like go into my own world.
Speaker 1: And it's never personal. Sometimes I take it personal though
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But most of the time you're
Speaker 1: watching like like the weirdos, Like no, it's like pimple
Speaker 1: popping videos and like guys things on TikTok, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, how are you so focused? Like I don't understand.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the only thing that drives you crazy
Speaker 1: about me? M hmm. I actually can't think of anything else.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's way more things you can think of.
Speaker 1: It's just not coming to your head right now. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think, stupid. I think something that's annoying is
Speaker 1: when you used to drive me to pilates. You would
Speaker 1: always give me your trash from your car when I
Speaker 1: drop you off, this and this and this and this,
Speaker 1: and I say, I'm like, no, no, no no, no, you
Speaker 1: just drive away, just fully drive away. You're walking towards
Speaker 1: a trash can, and it's like You're just this is
Speaker 1: honestly just saving me a lot of time, so I
Speaker 1: don't have to do it right, you know, gotcha? Sometimes
Speaker 1: you need a help in hand. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: if there's anything that drives me crazy about you, Well,
Speaker 1: I do. It does drive me a little crazy that
Speaker 1: you are so messy, but I know it's not intentional. Well, thanks,
Speaker 1: I guess that's not that harsh, like I think mine was.
Speaker 1: Pretty hard. Oh, I mean, but I actually like, no,
Speaker 1: don't backtrack, no, no no, like there's actually nothing that like
Speaker 1: drives me crazy anymore because I don't live with you.
Speaker 1: We both decided at some point without really communicating it
Speaker 1: to each other, it's like we need separate groups of friends,
Speaker 1: like absolutely, yeah, like it was vital for us, and
Speaker 1: I think it was really beneficial because we were already
Speaker 1: so close and like we had it was very like
Speaker 1: suffocating at times, and so it was nice to break
Speaker 1: off and like have our separate things. And we were
Speaker 1: always like close with each other's friends, but it was
Speaker 1: never like we wouldn't hang out with them one on one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like it really depends on the friend. Like
Speaker 1: I think that's how it is. If you know, if
Speaker 1: it's Jake, our friend Jake, like we can hang out
Speaker 1: with him together together because it's more fun that way.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know, my friends, I'm just like, no,
Speaker 1: these are my friends, Like you can like them, you
Speaker 1: can talk to them, but you can't hang out with
Speaker 1: even if I really really love your friends, I've never
Speaker 1: had a thought in my head where it's like you
Speaker 1: might want to hang out with them one on one.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never felt that way about your friends either.
Speaker 1: It's always like, if I'm going to see them, like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be with Maddie. Obviously, I hope that everyone
Speaker 1: like enjoys us because we have a lot to talk about,
Speaker 1: for like the fact that we want to open up
Speaker 1: about things, Like we obviously wanted to be lighthearted and
Speaker 1: fun because that's who we are. We really are just
Speaker 1: like two silly girls, Like I mean, at least that's
Speaker 1: how I like to like say who we are, right,
Speaker 1: But I feel like we also have never really opened
Speaker 1: up on a personal level or talked like Also, now
Speaker 1: that we're growing up, we're learning a lot at the
Speaker 1: same time as like a lot of our like followers
Speaker 1: and things. So I feel like it's really cool that
Speaker 1: we're like growing up and learning together and we get
Speaker 1: to educate each other. There's a lot that we've learned
Speaker 1: in the past year with everything that's gone on in
Speaker 1: the world, and I think it's so important that we
Speaker 1: stay up to date with all. Okay, I actually wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about this though. I think your relationship with
Speaker 1: mom also got really, really really good when you moved out.
Speaker 1: I think it just it made us all like, so
Speaker 1: so so close. I feel like you should talk about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, uh well, I think for any parent it's
Speaker 1: really hard for their first baby to leave, And it
Speaker 1: was really hard for me to understand that. For a while.
Speaker 1: I was just like, why isn't she letting me? Like
Speaker 1: why doesn't she want me to leave? Like this is
Speaker 1: bound to happen. She did it too when she was
Speaker 1: my age and I and now moving out, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I so understand. Like we me and
Speaker 1: mom really had a really good understanding of each other,
Speaker 1: and I feel like we actually like because as a
Speaker 1: and I think we both like established this like obviously
Speaker 1: your parents sent boundaries with you, but once you reach
Speaker 1: a certain age, of course you're allowed to have your
Speaker 1: own boundaries as well with your parents. So I think
Speaker 1: it was really cool that Mom and I really just
Speaker 1: like worked it out and our relationship is so strong now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that you had a bad relationship. We're obviously
Speaker 1: like the teenager you know, phase is just I feel
Speaker 1: like it's probably awful for parents because it's like like
Speaker 1: these kids they're going through like all these hormones exactly.
Speaker 1: So I felt it was just like a lot for
Speaker 1: her having both like two teenagers, but now you guys
Speaker 1: are like best friends. Like she's always like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: going to hang out with Mattie Boots and I'm just
Speaker 1: like that would never like I don't know. Also, the
Speaker 1: funniest thing is like I was so excited to move out,
Speaker 1: and the second Mom left and I was in my
Speaker 1: apartment alone, I literally called Mom. I think eleven told
Speaker 1: me that I called her like probably eleven times that day.
Speaker 1: It's like, Mom, how do you do this? And where
Speaker 1: where should I put this? And I know that it
Speaker 1: made her super happy, but it also made me super
Speaker 1: happy because I was like, Wow, we're working together to
Speaker 1: kind of like bond in a really special way. And
Speaker 1: I think now our family, like us three together, it's
Speaker 1: really special. Since you left, she has gone so obsessed
Speaker 1: with me. I'm like, okay, this is this is a
Speaker 1: lot like because she was so obsessed with you, she
Speaker 1: was obsessed with me, but it was just like you're
Speaker 1: the older one, you could talk about more things like Also,
Speaker 1: the focus was like on me leaving. I feel like
Speaker 1: she had to be able to close that chapter and
Speaker 1: let it go. And then she's like my other b well,
Speaker 1: I was also like I still am, but like I'm
Speaker 1: more of an extrovert, Like I just always wanted to
Speaker 1: not be home, and so now that like I'm home,
Speaker 1: she's like, Kencie, what do you want to do? And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, like, what do you mean? What do
Speaker 1: you think we're doing? But I do love her. She's
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, she's actually so cute. I know she
Speaker 1: looks so young now than she did I so we
Speaker 1: better follow that same routine. I don't know what she's doing,
Speaker 1: but I won't want to in her water. Let me
Speaker 1: take a sip of that one. This is now just
Speaker 1: an episode about our mom. She's gonna be so you
Speaker 1: better be listening to this she are you kidding? She is?
Speaker 1: Probably she's probably already listened to this four times crying.
Speaker 1: Probably like recorded this snippet and put on Instagram and
Speaker 1: was just like I love my kids, They're my whole world,
Speaker 1: which is so cute, But her Instagram options she needs
Speaker 1: like serious help. I'm worried how much she's obsessed with
Speaker 1: our dogs and how she is their grandma and gandma.
Speaker 1: That's what she likes to say, and it's I'm nervous
Speaker 1: for out she's not gonna have a dog with her. Okay.
Speaker 1: We talked about our mom a lot. We talked about
Speaker 1: being sisters, we talked about fighting, But like, we just
Speaker 1: want to say that this podcast is not just going
Speaker 1: to be about siblings, Like, we actually have a lot
Speaker 1: that we want to open up about and talk to
Speaker 1: you guys about. Yeah, we're gonna be talking about relationships
Speaker 1: and dating and friendships and mental health. I think is
Speaker 1: the most important, and I feel like we need to
Speaker 1: talk about that. Um. I feel like now more than
Speaker 1: ever in this world, this generation of social media, online bullying, hate,
Speaker 1: Like we really need to dive into that because we
Speaker 1: are literally the target age for that, right. So, I
Speaker 1: feel like and I've hoped that a lot of you
Speaker 1: guys uh get to relate to us on a lot
Speaker 1: of these topics, which I think you will, Like we're
Speaker 1: all just like trying to figure it out, so all
Speaker 1: growing up together. We're finally doing something together that's fun,
Speaker 1: I know, And and it's actually really fun because I
Speaker 1: feel like we'll learn about well, we'll learn more about
Speaker 1: each other in this process. I know we're going to
Speaker 1: become too close again and then we're gonna start fighting
Speaker 1: anyway exactly We're gonna be like, let's live together. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening and we will see
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